#idk how prove this equation

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hot gazelle
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Tunjukkan means prove

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hot gazelle
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Then x^3 = 1 ?

hallow comet
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No. For now, pretend like you don't know it's 1.

hot gazelle
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Ohh alr

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But how do I cube it ?

hallow comet
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Do you remember the formula for (a - b)^3?

hot gazelle
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A^3 - 3a^2b - 3ab^2 - b^3 ?

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Is that right ?

hallow comet
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No. Should be a^3 - 3a^2 b + 3ab^2 - b^3.

hot gazelle
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Ohh alr

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I'll do that first

hallow comet
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Before you do that, one more thing.

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Let's take a look at that formula.

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(a - b)^3 = a^3 - 3a^2 b + 3ab^2 - b^3

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Let's group some terms.
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - (3a^2 b - 3ab^2)
So:
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b)

hot gazelle
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Ohh I see

hallow comet
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That will allow you to express x^3 in terms of x.

hot gazelle
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Alr I'll cube it first

hallow comet
hot gazelle
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Alr

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What do I do after I cube it all?

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@hallow comet

hallow comet
hot gazelle
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Alot of equations

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But some of them can be cross out

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Something like this

hallow comet
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Well, let's see. We have:
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b)
In our case a = (2√(13) + 5)^(1/3) and b = (2√(13) - 5)^(1/3). Let's find a^3 - b^3 and ab.
a^3 - b^3 = (2√(13) + 5) - (2√(13) - 5) = 5 + 5 = 10
ab = ((2√(13) + 5)(2√(13) - 5))^(1/3) = (4*13 - 25)^(1/3) = (52 - 25)^(1/3) = 27^(1/3) = 3
Thus, if a - b = x, we get:
x^3 = 10 - 9x

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So, now you just have to prove that x = 1 is the only real root of the function f(x) = x^3 + 9x - 10.

hot gazelle
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Mostly the ab part

hallow comet
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Our initial expression is x = a - b. We have (a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b), so x^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3abx.

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Oh, I used the difference of squares formula there.

hot gazelle
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I think I'm starting to understand

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Hopefully I understand

hot gazelle
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Is it because 1 = x^3 ?

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Nvm I get it

hot gazelle
hallow comet
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Only then we can say that the initial expression is 1.

hot gazelle
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Like how do I solve the x^3 + 9x - 10 ?

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Is it not possible ?

hallow comet
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We already know the solution x = 1.

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We just need to show that it's the only real solution.

hot gazelle
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Oh

hallow comet
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Let's look at the equation we got before.

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x^3 = 10 - 9x

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What can you say about the left and right sides in terms of whether they increase or decrease?

hot gazelle
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They increase ?

hallow comet
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Both of them? Are you sure?

hot gazelle
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Well the right side decrease and the left side increase

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I think...

hallow comet
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Yes! Very good.

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And here we can use a useful property.
Suppose we have an equation of the form f(x) = g(x), where one side always increases and one side always decreases. Then if this equation has solutions, then it only has one solution.

hot gazelle
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Is it because the right side is cube while the left side is not?

hallow comet
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Well, x^3 increases and 10 - 9x decreases, obviously.

hot gazelle
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Ohhhh

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Because it will only add up

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While the left one will decrease

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So if x was 3, x^3 would be bigger than 10-9x

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Ahh i get it

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Thx

hot gazelle
hallow comet
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But x is our initial expression. So, we proved that it is equal to 1.

hot gazelle
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If x = 1 it result is 0 ?

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Ohhh I get it

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Both side will be equal right ?

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So that means the only for both of them to be equal is if x = 1

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Am I right ?

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@hallow comet

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