#idk how prove this equation
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Let the expression on the left be x. Then we have:
x = (2√(13) + 5)^(1/3) - (2√(13) - 5)^(1/3)
Start by cubing x.
Then x^3 = 1 ?
No. For now, pretend like you don't know it's 1.
Do you remember the formula for (a - b)^3?
No. Should be a^3 - 3a^2 b + 3ab^2 - b^3.
Before you do that, one more thing.
Let's take a look at that formula.
(a - b)^3 = a^3 - 3a^2 b + 3ab^2 - b^3
Let's group some terms.
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - (3a^2 b - 3ab^2)
So:
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b)
Ohh I see
That will allow you to express x^3 in terms of x.
Alr I'll cube it first
You can use the grouped variant of the formula right away.
What did you get?
Well, let's see. We have:
(a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b)
In our case a = (2√(13) + 5)^(1/3) and b = (2√(13) - 5)^(1/3). Let's find a^3 - b^3 and ab.
a^3 - b^3 = (2√(13) + 5) - (2√(13) - 5) = 5 + 5 = 10
ab = ((2√(13) + 5)(2√(13) - 5))^(1/3) = (4*13 - 25)^(1/3) = (52 - 25)^(1/3) = 27^(1/3) = 3
Thus, if a - b = x, we get:
x^3 = 10 - 9x
So, now you just have to prove that x = 1 is the only real root of the function f(x) = x^3 + 9x - 10.
Sorry, I still don't understand where the rest of the equation go
Mostly the ab part
Our initial expression is x = a - b. We have (a - b)^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3ab(a - b), so x^3 = (a^3 - b^3) - 3abx.
Oh, I used the difference of squares formula there.
Where did you get the x^3?
Is it because 1 = x^3 ?
Nvm I get it
Uhmmm, about this, how do I prove it's 1 ?
Well, we got x^3 = 10 - 9x. Obviously, x = 1 is a root of this equation. But we need to determine whether it's the only real root.
Only then we can say that the initial expression is 1.
We already know the solution x = 1.
We just need to show that it's the only real solution.
Oh
Let's look at the equation we got before.
x^3 = 10 - 9x
What can you say about the left and right sides in terms of whether they increase or decrease?
They increase ?
Both of them? Are you sure?
Yes! Very good.
And here we can use a useful property.
Suppose we have an equation of the form f(x) = g(x), where one side always increases and one side always decreases. Then if this equation has solutions, then it only has one solution.
Yk, I said that without knowing which one actually increase or decrease...
Is it because the right side is cube while the left side is not?
Well, x^3 increases and 10 - 9x decreases, obviously.
Ohhhh
Because it will only add up
While the left one will decrease
So if x was 3, x^3 would be bigger than 10-9x
Ahh i get it
Thx
So then how do I use this on the equation?
We have:
x^3 = 10 - 9x
We know that x = 1 is its root. But as x^3 is increasing and 10 - 9x is decreasing, this equation has no more than one real root. So, it only has one real root: x = 1.
But x is our initial expression. So, we proved that it is equal to 1.