#figuring out an angle from what I presume is the cos theorem?

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deft sorrel
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Yeah uh. I didn't figure out the WAY to do it, but it's probably cos theorem used in a puzzle-like way.

limber yoke
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Maybe multiplying a+b-c might help

deft sorrel
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Multiplying how?

limber yoke
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$(a + b + c )\color{blue}(a + b - c)\color{black} = \frac{a.b}{a + b - c} \color{blue}(a + b - c)$

hoary sierraBOT
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Momentarily dumb

deft sorrel
limber yoke
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If you cancel out the blue thing on both sides you are left with what you have given

deft sorrel
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This doesn't seem particularly obvious

limber yoke
deft sorrel
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i

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can't believe i overlooked that

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anyway, why did we multiply both sides again?

limber yoke
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So that you see something. .

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(a+b)² - c² = ab

deft sorrel
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Oh, you rewrote it to be that (x+y)(x-y) style of thing

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more specifically, (a+b)^2 - c^2 = ab

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AAAAH

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that cancels out! so you get ab!

limber yoke
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Yeah

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a² + b² + 2ab = c² + ab
a² + b² + ab = c²

deft sorrel
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Where can we go from here?

limber yoke
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Think of triangle law of vector addition

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c the longest side

static crater
deft sorrel
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How can we utilize it here?

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Wait, let me see if I still remember cos theorem
c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2abcosc

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we have c^2 = a^2 + b^2 + ab

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so

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ab must be equal to -2abcosc

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so

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cos C times -2 = 1

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cos C is...-1/2?

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am I on the right track?

static crater
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yes

deft sorrel
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and if cosC is -1/2, it must be... um...

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cosinus had that rule where two angles with a sum of 180 were the - of each other

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if cosx = 1/2, then cos(180-x) = -1/2

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x here is 30, so 180-x is 150 and that is our answer.

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?

static crater
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cos(30) = sqrt(3)/2

deft sorrel
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was it cos60

static crater
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yes

deft sorrel
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then the answer is cos120

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yippee

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thanks

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