#Desperate Help Needed for Calculus.
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@dry temple
Choose arbitrary point $k \in (c_1, c_2)$ s.t. $f(k) < f(c_1) = f(c_2)$ \
Let $\frac{f(k) - f(c_1)}{k - c_1} = p$. $\because p < 0$, $\therefore$ By MVT, $\exists d \in [c_1, k]: f'(d) = p$ \
Similarly, let $\frac{f(k) - f(c_2)}{k - c_2} = q$. Let $e \in [k, c_2]: f'(e) = q >0 $. \
By IVT, $\exists p \in (d, e): f'(p) = 0$
Kelvin Chan (Tag me 2 reply)
@junior bluff That's the most meaningful mathematical answer that I have ever seen in my life.
Is this all that is needed?
Thank you, I am truly flattered.
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...Yes...You only need need MVT and IVT.
I was thinking of using Nested Interval Property, but it seems that there is more simple answer.
What you have written is suffice to prove the given statement right?
How have you shown that f has a local minima on (a,b) tho?
There was no mention of a or b in what u have written.
Please go to the general chat.
Alright
Yes, you are right...let me think again. Sorry for it
You have to use MVT, IVT or EVT. You just didn't prove what was needed lol.
Lemme know if u get it.
$f$ has a local min. in $[c_1, c_2]$ implies that $f$ has a local min. in $[a, b]$.
My only problem is just that $d$ might be a local max.
Kelvin Chan (Tag me 2 reply)
The way I see it is something like this
Horribly drawn cuz rn I'm using phone but the idea is
If there are 2 local maxima
That means it needs to go down somewhere in between c1 and c2
Otherwise one of them won't be a local maxima anymore
No matter how u draw it, u won't be able to make 2 peaks in the graph without first going down after drawing the first peak, creating a local minimum
I am thinking whether I can use f([c_1, c_2]) is a closed interval, say f([c_1, c_2]) = [c, d], and claim that e s.t. f(e) = d is a local minimum.
$\forall x \in (c, c_2): \frac{f(x) - f(c)}{x - c} > 0$, $\therefore f'(e^+) \geq 0$
Similarly, $f'(e^-) \leq 0$.
$\therefore f'(e) = 0$
Kelvin Chan (Tag me 2 reply)
The assumption that $c_1$ and $c_2$ are local max. is important here since $e$ would not be one of $c_1$ or $c_2$.