#disprove of statements

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For the first statement

A = C = {a}, B = {b, c}, let be f(a) = b, g(b) = g(c) = a

I mean both statements are wrong and I have to disprove it. Does this work ? And how can I explain it in a right way that it works ?

crude cypress
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and if gof surjective then g surjective

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those are true

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but yeah you clearly understood that the statements you were given are false

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to disprove them you just have to find a counter-example

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sharp vault
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But it seems there is smth wrong

crude cypress
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I am trying to work through both of your attempts seeing if it works or not

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thin rockBOT
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crude cypress
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gof : {a} -> {a} gof(a) = a is clearly bijective

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so gof is injective but g is not injective since g(b) = g(c)

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and gof is also surjective but f is not since there is no value associated with c

crude cypress
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[0, pi/2] -> [-1,1] -> [0,1]

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sin^2 is bijective from [0, pi/2] to [0,1]

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but (-1)^2 = 1^2 so g(x) = x^2 is not injective

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and -1 is not in sin([0,pi/2]) so f(x) = sin(x) isn't surkective from [0,pi/2] to [-1,1]

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@sharp vault Your examples work like wonders but what you need to say is that f is NOT surjective and g is NOT injective to disprove the statement

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And I did this for the second statement

crude cypress
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@sharp vault you didn't need to

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you first (or second examples) work for both statements

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Because my first example work for both ?

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