Idea to nerf Pheromone

[strange moth]

sigh 👎
Agree on dmg reduction tho

[pulsar pike]

If we keep pheromone the way it is, then health on every character needs to increase so that every fight doesn’t end in one shot, the game is boring like this

[strange moth]

There is no need to increase every character health because u have to think on those who doesn’t have pheromone. So the best solution (in my opinion) is for the stunned player to get a defense increase only when stunned

[pulsar pike]

Yes this would work

[pulsar pike]

Repost it with just the damage reduction

[silk trench]

this looks extreme. personally, I think my idea on nerfing pheromone makes more sense because it makes it similar to duke roar. lowkey personal bias ngl. only thing I can agree on this is the damage reduction

nerf should either be make it more predictable or make it less rewarding on hit

[pulsar pike]

I’d prefer a fraction of a second delay after they press it

[silk trench]

I mean my idea was kinda like that but the indicator's more like old pheromone

I don't think they should be seen through bushes at all times. only when pheromone is active

eh. bullcrap hidden thru barrel can stay, like romeo poison

[soft lichen]

Kingcxng I agree with the first idea

Or else we all know the old phermone
We will Nerf it to the old phermone

[silk trench]

it's mostly the bush hiding that poses a problem. even tho bush checking is a thing, select few are privileged enough to bush check efficiently anyway (ex, Nix, Paolo, Suzy, Betsy, Caly and so on that I dun feel like mentioning). it's a gamble and if u hit the wrong spot at the wrong place, u'll def get hit by phero anyway. it's best to just make the user exposed in bushes only or just straight up dmg reduction

[pulsar pike]

Yes, but the pheromone users aren’t going to want it. That will be hard change to get them to make

[silk trench]

too bad for them. their sorry p2w item must be nerfed at some point. all good things must come to an end

[pulsar pike]

I don’t know why so many characters show in the bushes now anyways. I wish they would get rid of Larry’s primal altogether. It hinders him more than it helps. Max too, you can see them all the time. The ring around them

[silk trench]

I thought that got fixed

[pulsar pike]

Yes but every time we do one of these it gets more down votes than upvotes surprisingly

[silk trench]

personally, I do not see them in the bushes anymore unless they have rockets. bruh rocket larry is so dumb tho lol

alright imma post my idea then... this idea's too extreme imo

[pulsar pike]

You guys should combine with a damage decrease when frozen

I think it’s the best idea so far. Even knowing they have pheromones doesn’t help when they’re level 12, you’re always in range

[silk trench]

yeah dmg reduction is actually an excellent idea. one of the biggest problems with phero is free hits = BIG damage

[pulsar pike]

Yes it’s a ridiculous amount of damage to take in that moment

[silk trench]

it still keeps the element of surprise for even the dumbest of players, but the reward is not as huge. it forces players to NOT rely on it as much

[pulsar pike]

The gameplay is so strange now, all they do is stand back until their pheromones are ready and one shot kill. There’s no real fighting anymore

[silk trench]

the point of a unique item is to either overhaul or really amplify a character's playstyle or grant major benefits with major downsides

[pulsar pike]

Any item that everyone has to have in order to win is a problem

[silk trench]

happy treats: grants healing by standing. problem is u are vulnerable without cover and forces u to play passive
bandages: makes your character tanky but bushes are useless for stealth
muscles: if u bad, u lose lol. also u get bigger, making u a target to snipers. still kinda op but even this freaking item has a weakness
rockets: bushes are useless for stealth

but pheromone's weakness? barrel. u can just destroy the barrel before stunning em

the long cooldown hardly matters anyway cuz to solve that, JUST RUN N HIDE 🤣
like I said, the reward is too huge to even consider it's apparent "weakness"

[pulsar pike]

I never have the barrel work consistently anyways, I just gotten frozen by a bee while I was in a barrel right now

[silk trench]

just sent mine check it out

[silk trench]

yeah to close this off, the only thing we can agree on is damage reduction. CASE CLOSED

[strange moth]

I said i agreed with that part