Matchmaking

[hasty chasm]

Make the matchmaking better! Level 9s shouldn't be going up against 15+

[unique heron]

yes

[worn venture]

Yes pls make the matchmaking more cool not level 14 against 18

Please make sure to do something about the matchmaking

[barren juniper]

Pls make it

[frigid vault]

Do match making by 3 lvls apart

1-3, 4-7, 8-11, 12-15, 16- 19

[hot sandal]

yes we need it ;-;

[clear halo]

Fr

[dapper sluice]

I agree with this, but when you reach more gm levels you should fight levels way more higher than you to keep the battles challenging
Starting from gm2 you will fight levels 16 and below and gm3 you will fight levels 16 and above

[frigid vault]

Nah

Not so high

When you reach gm you can fight lvls about 5 lvls apart

[dapper sluice]

Ok that’s good

[unique heron]

yes

[hasty chasm]

Hopefully this changes soon

[unique heron]

Yes

[amber ravine]

yes

[pale sigil]

[jolly bluff]

I agree! I've made a similiar post on this. #1019588477869891624

[hasty chasm]

🥳 🎉

52 !

[jolly bluff]

congrats!

[late rose]

I think this will never happen. Because there is no need to spend money if you aren't getting an advantage. They already made changes in this way. Maybe with a wider range of levels. But the game is more balanced now than last year

[hasty chasm]

They need to do more

Idc that they changed it, they didn't do enough. Matchmaking sucks rn so they need to change something, people who spend money can spend but wtf is wrong with zooba!? Level 19 need to go up against 19, 18, 17, or 16 at the LOWEST.

[full gazelle]

1-5 battles, 6-11, Primal lvls 12-14, and 15-19 should be able to hold their own on this one

[hasty chasm]

A level 5 can destroy a level 1

Same with level 19s, 15s don't stand a chance

[full gazelle]

Ok scratch that, 1-3 4-6 7-10 11-13 12-15 16-19

I think thats more of a balance right?

[hasty chasm]

1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-19?

[full gazelle]

ig that works ya

[nimble nebula]

wow 57 likes i hope they do this

[digital summit]

this

why spend money or even level up at all if you already have the advantage at level 3?

people don’t seem to consider that when asking for level-based matchmaking

[hasty chasm]

Wdym

Don't spend money on this game?

[digital summit]

well if they implement level-based matchmaking, then there wouldn’t be point to level up. with that system, if you were at level 3, you’d be at the top of your level group. if you level up to level 4, suddenly you’re at the bottom of your level group? why level up past level 3 if you’re at the top already? leveling up would just be a waste of time and money

[hasty chasm]

So what? You think I'd be better for people level 3 to face ppl level 19? Your right that's fair

[digital summit]

it’s objectively better because level based matchmaking would make 0 sense and would make no money. sorry for being a realist, but it’s true

[hasty chasm]

Hmm, ok

Well, 57 to 1 soooo

[digital summit]

just think about it for a second

[hasty chasm]

I have, I still think they need to balance it

[digital summit]

there are other means of balancing it; level-based matchmaking is not it

plus, this is a MOBILE GAME. it being unbalanced provides an incentive for people to spend money on it, so it’s profitable

[hasty chasm]

Bruh

Making a profit is one thing but screwing up your game so ppl will pay to get better is another thing

[digital summit]

it’s a free mobile game, that’s the whole point

[hasty chasm]

Like you literally cannot win without money, get to league 4 then you'll see, go out and play more zooba bc I guarantee your perspective will change

[digital summit]

“play more zooba”

[hasty chasm]

Yes this is zooba server not pokemon server

[digital summit]

are you blind? did you see my role color? i’m in league 18

[hasty chasm]

You aware you can literally get that color by clicking a button?

[digital summit]

yes but why would i lie about something like that?

[hasty chasm]

And beside its league 16-17 role, not 18.
Bc you wanna pretend to be good when your not?

[digital summit]

have you run out of things to say? cause now all you’re doing is downplaying my credibility by saying i’m “not good” and “don’t have that experience” when you literally haven’t seen me play once. this is what happens every time i try to make a point

[hasty chasm]

I literally said neither of those things. You asked me why I thought you would have the league 16+ tag and I told you why I thought you would.

[digital summit]

i know you didn’t say those, but you implied it by saying

Bc you wanna pretend to be good when you’re not?

go out and play more zooba bc i guarantee your perspective will change

i swear this game’s community is the worst about it

[hasty chasm]

Bruh you literally asked a question I responded don't act like I went insulting you for no reason

[digital summit]

but i guess that’s to be expected with a free mobile game 🤷‍♂️

[frigid vault]

Just the 3 lvls apart like what I said

[frigid vault]

^^

[mystic ravine]

Matchmaking now is better than years ago

[barren juniper]

True

[frigid vault]

Years ago zooba was better

[barren juniper]

No

[unique heron]

Almost 60

[frigid vault]

Yes it was

[mystic ravine]

Indeed

[frigid vault]

Rip Nitro and knock back items

[finite flume]

Wow, 60 upvotes

Hopefully Zooba does something now

[chrome sierra]

people seriously disagree with this? 🤦‍♀️

[hasty chasm]

61

[hasty chasm]

IKR!?

[hot sandal]

Lol but imagine if someone who just joined zooba spent like 50k to get lvl 19s. Then what? They noob and may not know how to play, but a low lvl who has been playing for years (but hasn’t spent money) will be pro and kill lvl 19. Jk im just making stuff up, i 100% agree with what ur saying

[hasty chasm]

In that case, DONT SPEND 50K ON A GAME!!!

[hasty chasm]

@daring jackal

@digital summit

[full gazelle]

ya ig so, dont know why but they do...

[hasty chasm]

P2Ws... 🙄

[finite flume]

Or try to get a level 19 when it doesn't exist yet (or maybe it does, I haven't played Zooba in a bit)

[frigid vault]

Frl

[unique heron]

yes🤦‍♂️

[unique heron]

62 now lol

[undone idol]

Nor should high levels face bots… most games have at least 1 min waiting time so the matchmaking would be better

[frigid vault]

Not our fault they p2w before knowing the game

[hasty chasm]

It does 🙄

[frigid vault]

So if they're high lvl they will fight high lvls

[thin sigil]

Please do it 😭😭

[mystic ravine]

Matchmaking "makes no sense" in a Pay2Win game, I personally would both agree and disagree to this topic .

If this game is P2W what is the actual benefit be for the paying people? the level, the increased damage and increased health etcetera.

Either wildlife applies a radical change to the game making it free2play or matchmaking will be what it is: otherwise, if I was to find people my same level why would I want to increase my level ?

[hasty chasm]

68 votes! Thank you for voting this post has really blown up!

[hollow mist]

Agree

[hasty chasm]

And yk there's that one guy who voted no 🙄

[finite flume]

:(

[finite flume]

There could be a ranked gamemode where you find people 1 or 2 levels higher than you, and you get better rewards, like better crates and more coins

[fiery anchor]

I hope zooba listens to this

[unique heron]

It’s now 71

[hasty chasm]

🥳

[hasty chasm]

72

[hasty chasm]

And the one guy who voted

[severe rover]

In all honesty, just quit the game like I did

[hasty chasm]

Yup, I was playing zooba hard-core for a few months but now I don't even know if I'll ever be on again

[finite flume]

Same

[unique heron]

@digital summit Everyone’s disagreeing with you Just remove the

[hasty chasm]

Let him keep it, seriously though how can anyone disagree with this. Votes 73-1 the 1 novote ain't gonna make a difference

[unique heron]

💀

[frigid vault]

Mans probably work for wildlife XD

[unique heron]

💀

[mystic ravine]

Do you really think the 71 thumbs up will make a difference ?
How did the level 18 poll make a difference ? --> today we have level 19s and soon we'll have level 20

😅😂

[hasty chasm]

I don't but I think it's better that they know our problems, if we never say anything you think theyll be more likely to change? At least now they can see what people feel are the biggest problems

[mystic ravine]

On that i agree of course. Just, being a long time zooba player, I think they just don't really care nor won't ever do anything about it.

For instance, why sometimes players playing Steve cannot be revived ? That's a bug almost as old as Zooba 😅

[hasty chasm]

Yeah ik, idk why they would add this feedback stuff if they don't wanna listen though

[digital summit]

thanks for putting my thoughts in different words

[digital summit]

no thanks

wildlife knows that matchmaking is a problem but they’re not gonna do a thing about it because it makes them money

i don’t blame them though

no matter how morally wrong it is, ultimately the number one goal of wildlife and a lot of other companies is to make money

they’re not doing much about the lack of balance in zooba because it makes them money

[mystic ravine]

What's the problem ? 😅

[digital summit]

there’s no problem i was just saying

[amber ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[hasty chasm]

85 votes

[unique heron]

87💀

[chrome sierra]

88

[hasty chasm]

89

[unique heron]

One more up vote and it will be 90

The whole Zooba community like voting this

[hasty chasm]

Come on

[cosmic palm]

this is smth we all want

[frigid vault]

sip

[unique heron]

YES 90 votes

[chrome sierra]

91

[hasty chasm]

Yas

[ashen hull]

Yes

[chrome sierra]

92

[ashen hull]

9999999

Please fix

[hasty chasm]

93

[unique heron]

93 yesssss

[hasty chasm]

And 1 no vote still

[chrome sierra]

aex is really holding on strong to that dislike

[hasty chasm]

How can anyone dislike this

[cosmic palm]

I agree

Zooba really need this as going against level 15 while u are at level 9 is not fair even a bit

[hasty chasm]

@digital summit it'll be 100-1 soon

[digital summit]

ok dude idc

[finite flume]

100-1 would be a nice milestone but sadly still wouldn't change anything in the game

[hasty chasm]

Your probably right but why make forum if they're just gonna ignore the post with the most votes

[muted flame]

sadly true

[muted flame]

among 43k people who joined this server

😅 they should fix it a bit more but imagine being a lvl 3 at 2k trophies facing lvl 3 ,2,1 players and bots

[hasty chasm]

93-2 now 😒

[chrome sierra]

bruh

i don’t trust anyone disliking this lmao

[unique heron]

bro look at the zooba discord news

[hasty chasm]

Seems like they're doing something 🤷‍♂️

[unique heron]

[hasty chasm]

Make sure to take survey if you haven't already

[hasty chasm]

Why tf would a level 3 have 2k trophies? Seriously in that case they need to get a life and not play so much zooba

[muted flame]

i mean it's possible if the matchmaking is according to lvl

[meager lance]

Yes every time I see someone talking about making matchmaking level based this is what I think it just won't work from a money making standpoint especially since level three you can literally get with a couple golden crates (depending on your league)

[muted flame]

never wanted anyone to trust me though it's fair since i don't know anyone personally

[muted flame]

you will only see lvl 3 players or lower in your game

[unique heron]

yeah

[digital summit]

yes finally some other people understand the obvious flaw of level based matchmaking

i used to think that level based matchmaking was a good idea but once i actually thought about it, i realized that it was actually pretty bad

[hasty chasm]

Well
My idea wasn't ever for level based matchmaking it was to fix the current matchmaking which sucks. They need to do something but how it is rn isn't working and obviously other people have the same problem or else there wouldn't be 95 votes

[digital summit]

i agree i just don’t think level based is a good fix

[hasty chasm]

Obviously you don't agree bc you voted no?

[muted flame]

this guy is all about votes there are 43k people in this server he is forgetting that . we are just saying that it should be fair i don't want to meet a lvl 19 when I'm at 1100 trophies but it shouldn't be based only on level

[digital summit]

i said multiple times that there does need to be fixes to matchmaking but your proposed fix isn’t a good one which is why i put a downvote

[muted flame]

i feel like reading one of those yt comments when people get 2k like they edit saying mom I'm famous .

[hasty chasm]

All i'm saying is I never said it should be off levels I just said make matchmaking better I never said how exactly but something needs to change

[muted flame]

@hasty chasm

[hasty chasm]

@muted flame

[muted flame]

I also agree that , I'm just denying what you said that only lvl 1-3 will face eachother in game . so if you are a lvl 3 and play solo you will only meet lvl 3 or lower and you can reach gm 5

All the conversation was going towards which level players must face which level players so I said that

[hasty chasm]

Yeah that makes sense I was just throwing out ideas...

[hasty chasm]

I didn't have a proposed fix? :/

[muted flame]

i guess you want this type of level in your game according to your levels

[digital summit]

you kinda did

[hasty chasm]

No? Even based off what I said 16-19 so a 17 wouldn't face a 15

[hasty chasm]

Where????

[muted flame]

it's fine since i know him he is not gonna kill me we were just chillin there

[digital summit]

the groups of levels

[hasty chasm]

That wasn't "my proposed fix" someone had thrown out a suggestion and I suggested one that I thought would be more fair. My proposed fix is the post not one of the comments...

[muted flame]

since everything looks fine now I think the misunderstanding should vanish .

anyway we are going to see what they do about that survey . it's not like they are paying attention to what we are talking about here . They just made a way to satisfy people by saying their desire

[frigid vault]

This is acceptable

[cursive swan]

I agree, they have an fair advantage against us, and it makes it a easy win unless the level has a high power up in my opinion they should make it to were you can only be matched with someone your level or one level higher because it is a bit of a challenge but if its level 18 or something might as well not try...

[full gazelle]

i think 3-5 levels up and down is good right?

[amber ravine]

2 levels up and 2 levels down

[barren juniper]

100

[arctic junco]

🥳

[unique heron]

100!!! Omg

[hot sandal]

How would they do it in squads tho? Cuz for example, someone may be lvl 1, getting 4 other lvl 19s to carry them, sooo then how would matchmaking work then? Currently, its based on average trophies. How would they change it to levels? The average levels?

Im not against the idea, im 100% for it, since matchmaking makes it hard to get higher trophies and gm3+, but im just curious as to how exactly it would work.

[cursive swan]

Yeah true but what if they made u squad with people your level or 2 3 higher

[hot sandal]

Yeah, then it would work, but it wont work if you invite lvl 19s to come and play with you

[hasty chasm]

Sooo when I think of it I think that if you have 3 level 7s and 2 level 10s the total levels are 41 right. So every other squads levels combined should be level 40-42

[hot sandal]

Oooo thats smart

[hasty chasm]

Type type type

[hot sandal]

But what if u have lvl 19 in your party, and you’re lvl 1. And lets say this is just duos. Total is lvl 20, and you may end up going against say 2 lvl 10s.

[hasty chasm]

Yeah and the level 19 will probably win in that case. But if the level 19 and 1 go apart the level 1 will die really quick

[hot sandal]

Like for example, mike was carrying my lvl 1 frog a few days ago. If this type of matchmaking was a thing, then we would kill everyone 😈

[hasty chasm]

Hmm

[hot sandal]

But if u have a good teammate who sticks together, then what?

[hasty chasm]

Idk maybe if they have a win streak they face higher levels so like 1 win you face people 1 level higher than you would. 2 wins you face ppl 2 levels higher, 3 wins 3 levels and so on

[hot sandal]

Hmm but

Stupid cooldown 😤

[hasty chasm]

So then your 19 and 1 would win like 3 and go up against level 13 and level 10ish

[hot sandal]

What if after one match, we start a new party (or purposely lose one match to lose the streak) and then continue playing and killing everyone

Then we will get gm5 easily

[hasty chasm]

Maybe it'd be based off wins + kills... idk how but I feel like they need to do something to change it

And your level 19 and 1 could face another team that's level 19 and 1

[hot sandal]

Yes i agree, they should change the trophy based matchmaking, but i don’t understand how exactly this would wofk

[hot sandal]

Thats very rare tho. Most of the time, it’ll be around lvl 10s

[full gazelle]

They fixed it tho didnt they?

I haven't seen anything 5 lvls higher than me yet, not a single lvl 17-19

[hasty chasm]

I have

[hot sandal]

I have. I was lvl 15, my teammate was lvl 14, and we saw 2 lvl 19s 💀

[finite flume]

Yay :) If they actually do something I might play the game again because I haven't played in months lol

[finite flume]

My solution for the current matchmaking:

Make a ranked gamemode, where matchmaking is trophy based (like it is currently). And for the normal gamemodes like Full, Standard and the team modes, it should be level based, and you should be able to have an option to choose if you wanna play against people up to 2 levels higher than you, or people the same level players as you, or players up to 2 levels lower than you. How this will work is that the players who want to play with opponents up to 2 levels lower than them will play with the players who want to play with players up to 2 levels higher than them. Also, to fix the problem that it would be very easy to get GM5 if you chose to fight zoobsters 2 levels lower than you, you should get 0.5x rewards for playing with players up to 2 levels lower than you, and 1.25 or 1.5x rewards for playing against higher level players. And by rewards I'm referring to trophies, coins, and also points for events. I also forgot to mention that I think it would be good to have 1.75x rewards for the Ranked game mode. So therefore the reward multiplier for playing against higher levels should be 1.25x so that ranked actually is noticeably more rewarding, or else if it was 1.5x then the difference wouldn't be very noticeable. If not this, then 1.5x rewards for playing against higher levels and 2x for playing in the ranked gamemode.

Thank you for listening to my TED Talk.

I really hope Zooba sees this

Or the 30 mins I spent writing this will have gone to waste :(

The only reason why I'm not making a new post to share this solution is that it would take a while for it to reach the amount of upvotes and attention and responses this post has gotten.

[unique heron]

102!!!

[unique heron]

104!!!!!

and now only one

[finite flume]

Only a few months until 200 :)

[cyan cave]

maybe something like this?

a criteria for being master and grandmaster like for example for master you have to be:

1. be level 8 with that character
2. have 150 kills with that character

If your character doesn't meet the rules they will be stuck at 999 trophies and will not gain anymore trophies from matches you cannot go past level 8 until you have passed the requirement of kills. And for grandmaster:

1. be level 10 with that character
2. have 225 kills with that character

If your character doesn't meet the rules they will be stuck at 1199 trophies and will not gain anymore trophies from matches and you cannot go past level 10 until you have passed the requirement of kills. This will create a fair, balanced matchmaking and eliminate the reason of camping and the pay to win strategies. You can still buy your way towards the top but it will be toned down bc the free to play players aren't so far behind. You can do the same thing to the other grandmaster ranks (my thing was for gm1) but scale it up. I hope you see this and have a good day

[waxen ingot]

I just don’t think it should be 16-19 because that just straight up not fair lol

[cyan cave]

yea i see what you're getting at

[finite flume]

Kill count should probably be a tiny bit higher for gm, but that's a pretty good idea tbh

[hot sandal]

It should be Level and trophy matchmaking. The current system just using trophies is terrible, you could be level 15 going up against a level 7, or the other way around. Using trophy and level matchmaking would be way better, say you are a level 12 Duke with 1000 trophies, you will go up against other level 10 - 13 characters with 100 trophies. Or, if you were a level 7 nix grand master 2, you would go against other grand master level 5 - 8 characters. See what I mean? It would be way better.

[full gazelle]

But @hot sandal what's the likelyhood of others wanting to pay? It wouldnt make any sense for a lvl 7 just to stay lvl 7 to get gm 5

[unique heron]

Now 106

[hasty chasm]

Yk how frustrating it would be if all your characters were like level 9 and you couldn't gain any trophies

[full gazelle]

exactly

[cyan cave]

ok i see that flaw now

so what can we change about it im open to ideas

[hasty chasm]

107

[unique heron]

Nice!!!

[severe rover]

It’s honestly based on leagues

[unique heron]

Now 108

[digital summit]

cool

[marsh pulsar]

yes, this would make the game fun

[south orbit]

Try a lvl 4 with a lvl 19 😓

[finite flume]

109

[unique heron]

Yes!

[finite flume]

11 :)

[unique heron]

:)

[finite flume]

12:)

I mean 112 not 12 lol

[odd night]

they would never fix matchmaking

[unique heron]

yeah we know but it's better to just try

[finite flume]

112 + 2

[hasty chasm]

Why not? They've made changes to it before, the least they can do is try

[odd night]

They are trying from 3 years arnt they? And not least, the best they are doing is try, but no results

[finite flume]

114 + 2

[arctic junco]

Woah that’s crazy

[hasty chasm]

What is

[hasty chasm]

@arctic junco

[unique heron]

118!!

[scarlet prairie]

118 likes and one thumbs down

[unique heron]

lmao

[finite flume]

Lets get 120!

[arctic junco]

Hell yeah

[unique heron]

So close only one more up

[chrome sierra]

120

[unique heron]

Yesssss

[reef rampart]

noice

[finite flume]

Ez

I think it would be a good idea to just have a normal Zooba conversation in here so that it can stay at the top of the active posts for a bit and get even more upvotes

[unique heron]

nah

[hasty chasm]

Maybe... but 30 sec cooldown soooo 🤷‍♂️ maybe in-between matches you can if you want

[finite flume]

Yeah

[finite flume]

Dead chat

[stark plover]

Dead yes But 126 likes

[edgy herald]

This is a thread not a chat uk?

[finite flume]

Wdym by uk?

[stark plover]

U know

[hasty chasm]

128 now

[frigid vault]

But u can still chat here to make suggestions or hype it up n stuff

[unique heron]

129 now

[hasty chasm]

130 now

[chrome sierra]

131

[edgy herald]

yeah u can but the thread is about matchmaking not for random topics about zooba

[finite flume]

K

"hype it up n stuff"

matchmaking would be so cool if it was improved, i might even start playing zooba again!

[frigid vault]

.

[hasty chasm]

And those 2 novotes

[unique heron]

yes

[finite flume]

132 pog

[finite flume]

Oops did I just use pog? Now that's a word I haven't used in agessss

[unique heron]

This is a really good idea

[craggy breach]

Level-based is actually the better one cause it would be fair that if you are at max lvl in your group you can also face other maxes so that makes more sense than fighting much higher lvls

[finite flume]

But then GM 5 would be so easy

[stark plover]

It would be possible Not easy cuz you would only face other pro lvl 1 Players that Foto to gm 4

[craggy breach]

But the game would be skill to win not pay to win

[unique heron]

Niceee 135

[finite flume]

Pov: You get gm5 with a level 1 nix

[mystic ravine]

So why would a player level up his level one characters ?

[plush willow]

Less than 1k trophies and we have an emerald in our match

This is what matchmaking shouldn’t be

[finite flume]

Bruhhh and it's level 16 too....

What level were you?

[finite flume]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

[arctic junco]

💯

[craggy breach]

Cause he want to play differently

💀

[craggy breach]

Maybe ranked and normal match modes should be added

[finite flume]

*they (you don't know if its a he/she or a neutral pronoun)

[finite flume]

Ez, i knew I would ace that alphabet test, but i'll admit i needed some help from my 1 year old nephew

[unique heron]

lol

[finite flume]

140 upvotes pog

||dies of cringe||

[unique heron]

Pogggg

[frigid vault]

@unique heron

[finite flume]

Dead chat

[stark plover]

What a surprise

[arctic junco]

Cause this chat has been milked so much

“IT hIt 139!!!” damn that’s crazy

[craggy breach]

Guys trophy based system is trash obviously its trash im at 1k trophies and im level 9 the level 11, 12s damage is really extreme for us it is definetly unfair the level based system would be skill based play and would be more fun also we wouldn't get enraged because of unfairness but trophy based is unfair and pay to win so i think level based would so much better than we are using right now

[craggy breach]

This game's designs and quality are perfect but matching players are so bad

Look at theese overpowered people there is always 11+ players at 1000 trophies

How can i and people like me that wants to grind can play freely and get fun against theese op p2w's

[hasty chasm]

What

[arctic junco]

That’s what I’m saying

[hasty chasm]

Wait... aren't you also a p2w? 🤔

[finite flume]

Yeah lol

[finite flume]

Lol I don't think level 11s count as p2w, they might just be bad at the game and that's why they're being placed with lower levels like you

[craggy breach]

Still their one hit equals my three hit

[arctic junco]

I’ve payed some stuff yes

But most of the stuff I’ve gotten all by myself

[unique heron]

Yup They’re not p2w

This is p2w oh my what is the level nine Jade like one month ago and i came across a lvl 19 Shelley(ik there is a spelling error) 10 levels higher how is this fair

so they have not added a single feature from feedbacks I think they won’t do it I think they made it just for hope

[craggy breach]

Maybe some day

They will think making the game joyful is more attractive and more earning

[arctic junco]

Yup

They already all probably billionaires lmao

[unique heron]

Uh If you’re low level and had low trophies This is really unfair they are high-level and they’re high trophies how did the hell did they get in the match of low lvls

[craggy breach]

Trophy dropping is such a bad thing too

6-7 levels vs 12+

[craggy breach]

Bruh what the hell is this he litterally trophy drop with lvl 15 bruhhhh

[finite flume]

Yeah true, that's very annoying and difficult

[sturdy yacht]

This is getting out of hand. Even with a newly unlocked and "maxed out" character, there's no way a level 10 should be allowed to go up against levels 1-4

[unique heron]

The worst part about it is that he’s named pro, Clearly he’s the dumbest and worst players, I absolutely hate these “pros” Who get instantly killed by me When I die from them I’m usually low level and they’re quite high level like you

[finite flume]

e

[mystic ravine]

How did you guys take the recent 5th item slot addition ?

[full gazelle]

better than most

[finite flume]

5th item slot is really bad, but I think if matchmaking was better, then it would be cool because I don't wanna fight a level 19 iris with pi with Muscles, Pheromone, Vampire, Jungle shoes and holy sandals as a level 12...

Another thing that would make the matchmaking better is if they removed pheromone

[arctic junco]

Or just nerfed it

Imo the original idea of reverse helium canister would’ve made it much more balanced
Too bad they messed up making that item and made it too weak so they redid it and made it too op

[craggy breach]

Yeah

[prime skiff]

I can guarantee you VIP players get matched against low levels so they can enjoy game. If you spending low or free to play, stop paying these bastards. My level 9 full health nix got killed in 2 shots by level 19 Zac (Rhino) or whatever his name is Zac or zax.

Only answer to crap matching is hacking

Hack like this and don't care about matchmaking anymore

Level 5 shelly 1 shot killing full health anyone around her, hahaha

[craggy breach]

What the hell

[finite flume]

Bruh

[stark plover]

Nothing crazy I See people at 0 trophies with lvl 19 cuz they Just Level them Up and never Play em

[chrome sierra]

[unique heron]

With pheromone on both of them and Muscles on buck💀

• primal instinct💀💀💀

[chrome sierra]

Just need Romeos 4th slot

[spark zinc]

Bruh

[frigid vault]

I've came to disagree with matchmaking being 100% by lvls

So like on my previous statement when I said it should be "lvl 1-3 matchmaking/ being 3 lvl apart matchmaking". I change my mind because players can just max out at lvl 3 and play with fellow lvl 3s and lower every game. And this well end up with lvl 3 gm5s. So the matchmaking should be 50/50 ig

[unique heron]

💀

[craggy breach]

Maybe there should be a limit on reaching gm's like when you eant to get gm1 you need to be lvl 7 then gm2: lvl 10 like that, im saying that lvl based is much more fair than this one we have right now

[severe rover]

Smh

[hasty chasm]

How much money...

[chrome sierra]

None, lol

[frigid vault]

They always assume

[chrome sierra]

fr

[hasty chasm]

With level fifteen Romeo, pretty new, with pheromones and no trophies... seriously tell me you weren't thinking that

[chrome sierra]

1. I only open good crates on double take, so he got to level 15 quite easily.
2. Romeos been out for 3 months, not pretty new.
3. You can get pheromone from crates with the unique items event, you just need luck to get it on the right character.
4. How does no trophies signal that someone paid money?
   

[spark zinc]

Because they might be trophy dropping but it’s impossible to trophy drop to zero trophies

[hasty chasm]

Ok but, your league like 18 or 19 right?
1 - The odds of getting Romeo without spending money are pretty slim, possible if you grind events
2 - Getting pheromones on not one but 2 characters, and muscles on 1, who happen to be at 0 trophies, probably means you have pheromones on all or most characters, and the only way to get those are either money or when they are in crates, if they are in crates you typically need emerald or legendary, again money, but you can get that from events, not likely but possible, you'd need tons of energy most likely, again more money.
3 - The amount of tokens and coins needed for that is nearly impossible without spending money. Your looking at thousands of coins and thousands of tokens and to get all of that on those 2 specific characters, not likely, but then to not even use them for a single match?
So yeah I think you spent money, 3 months to do all that for Romeo???

[chrome sierra]

1 - This one’s self explanatory, don’t even need to respond.
2 - Here you forgot about community events like warrior of the day, those halloween challenges they had and so on. So, I just participate in those and save up emerald/legendary crates for double take instead of opening them as soon as I receive them. I’ll also use tickets to get an emerald crate from time to time when there’s a good event.
3 - It’s not “nearly impossible” this would be a valid statement if I had them at level 17-19, but I do not. And getting tokens for those 2 specific characters goes back to double take and a handy little trick I learned. Once again, not using them for a while proves nothing. It’s so easy to save characters til they have a special event.
I didn’t spend any money on those two, simple as that.

This will now mark as my final reply, as I said all I needed to say and this is an exhausting chain.

[frigid vault]

Nope

[fringe lava]

I got like an idea for matchmaking
Rather than group players based on trophies, you group players based on level
Sometimes some players would intentionally drop their trophies to match up with lower leveled players to get more points for the event, which is the reason why u see level 15 when u are probably at 1k trophies
A match with people the same level won’t be unbalanced and will be fair as there are no obvious advantages

It is not fun for the players who ACTUALLY are like low levels when a pro instantly kills them

[finite flume]

Ez GM 5 with level 1 nix

[fringe lava]

Ok now I have no idea what to do now

[finite flume]

Let me show you my idea for matching

[fringe lava]

Someone might be low level but still get grandmaster cause they are the same level

[finite flume]

Be warned though it's a long text

[fringe lava]

Kk

[finite flume]

@fringe lava This

[round igloo]

i was using a lvl 3 duke and got matched up against a lvl 19 earl

[sturdy urchin]

I feel you dude. I try to make realistic points but everyone is butt hurt about not being the best at a mobile game 😭 like what do you guys expect? The game is relatively new as well

[craggy breach]

As i said there should be a limit on reaching gm's like gm1 limit is: 7 lvl gm2 limit: 10 level then your problem would be fixed

[craggy breach]

Guys i just want to let you know that they will never fix the matchmaking because at first when they made the game it was good the old days were good but then they thought that they made a game good and attractive so maybe if they made it p2w they would earn more money so they made it this way and the only way to solve this problem is destroying the payers

[cyan cave]

ok but crazy idea, what if we all, as a group, don't but ANYTHING from them for a month

[sturdy yacht]

Ridiculous

[stark plover]

As you can clearly See this is a noob Just with a big bank account

[modern pine]

Lol I def play like that sometimes

[unique heron]

I can totally agree. This guy can't even aim at him, like what dude?

[finite flume]

Have you guys considered it could be that person's sibling playing or something? (assuming he has family)

[unique heron]

Oh yeah

[finite flume]

Bruh I just played a match with my level 12 Betsy at 1100 and so many level 14s and above, I got a level 19 Max and level 17 iris

[limber kraken]

I think they should be matched by levels not trophies. Like levels 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-19

[finite flume]

Lots of people have suggested that but the thing is that it would be so easy to get gm 5 then, if you just use a level 10 or level 15

[modern pine]

Also the power difference between 16 and 19 is insane. Not that it makes it any better for a 11 vs 19. Too many 19s are sweats. Max lvl pheromones will give you PTSD

[stark plover]

This wouldnt Change much cuz a lvl 15 would destroy a lvl 11 but it would be a start!

[finite flume]

Yeah and that too

[wind wolf]

PLS DO THIS ZOOBA(players won't play with a certain character bc they have like a 1000 trophies on it and they go up against level 15 or 16 or higher or lower.)

[mystic ravine]

Almost three months later 😅

[finite flume]

Yeah

[fallen perch]

At least ban trophy drops because they also ruin the game and fun

[steep girder]

There has to be an incentive to level up. The way other games do this is by implementing XP. Every round you play you gain XP and match making is XP based.

[steep girder]

If they take away the GM system it would fix this. That’s the only thing trophy based.

[stark plover]

They need to Just remove every Update they did from the last 2 1/2 years Back in 2019 everything was better

[unique heron]

It won’t they don’t just trophy drop because of the grandmaster system, They just want to trophy drop and kill low levels, Even if the grandmaster system were removed the lvl 9 nixes would do it just to flex

[shell lintel]

I think there're mainly 2 things ruining the matchmaking even more:

• trophy droppers
• new season, when we lose trophies

about the new season thing, although it's great we can reclaim our stuff, i think it's a problem that since I don't have much time to play, some characters go back to 1k trophies even though they are 13-14 levels. even for me it's a bad thing bc the matches get really boring if I play with those characters again cause I'll be playing against low levels. and it surely isn't a nice experience for the lower levels that have to fight people much stronger than them.

also, we all know that the beginning of a new season is just chaotic with lots of 17-19 levels playing against low levels untill they increase their number of trophies again

[stark plover]

After season reset if I play with lvl 14+ I only face lvl 17 up

[unique heron]

Yup

[hot sandal]

Same. I haven’t even been playing my higher levels lately because of this

[craggy breach]

Bro they wont ever gonna fix the matchmaking, cuz they are earning money this way who cares about peoples happines am i wrong?

[finite flume]

170 upvotes now

[jaunty trail]

love it

[jaunty trail]

thats how they will start losing players then💀

[frigid vault]

I need to steal these likes

[jaunty trail]

no

[frigid vault]

Yes

[finite flume]

I think the original poster of this post left the server lol

[mystic ravine]

Yes he did

[frigid vault]

Yep

[hot sandal]

He deleted his discord account

[finite flume]

Oh

[finite flume]

Dead chat

Remember when this used to be the most upvoted feedback post?

[somber lantern]

Ok

[undone idol]

I’m sure if match making was by Leauges not by GM it will be fixed

Add more Leauges till 60k trophies

And double trophies should stay on!!! A lot of players are quitting because lack of time and so many characters

Another way to fix the matchmaking is trophies by leauges as well

Not by GM

[steep girder]

I think this is good for higher leagues, but way lower trophies per win for lower leagues. They keep getting themselves too high too quickly because they only have a handful of characters to play.

[undone idol]

thats why i said... match making through leauges

if u r league 13 u face leauge 13 players

makinng the match making fair

[steep girder]

It won’t be when they’re hitting league 19 with level 12s by hiding in barrels

Since trophies are cut in half at the end of the season, they’re hitting really high leagues in the first few days

[undone idol]

They to higher it to 70k trophies Instead of 40k

[steep girder]

Oh yes that would work. We need that regardless, it’s way too low now.

[frigid vault]

Oh my lord

This post is back WWW

[dapper sluice]

react with Mayreel emojis everyone

[bitter urchin]

What 💀

League 20–>League 20 players

Half of league is p2w level 20

[undone idol]

thats why i suggested to increase it to 70k

[lost breach]

[bitter urchin]

that’s going to take them like another year and then they might as well put one of the leagues in early access because it’s not like Wanda’s coming out

[undone idol]

how can they fix match making in any another way?

[bitter urchin]

@undone idol

[undone idol]

i suggested that before

[bitter urchin]

Not in the messages I just read

[undone idol]

wont be competitive and trophies wont be fair for all.. thats why by leaugues is better... they might as well stay level 3 and not progress... u know what i mean

[bitter urchin]

I was going based off of them

[bitter urchin]

By leagues isn’t fair for league 20s at all for now. At least a 3 level difference you have the opportunity to either stay at the bottom of the food chain or the top

[undone idol]

wont be fair for trophies dude

imagine a level 3

as in imagine a level 1 have 100k trophies

[bitter urchin]

How? Everybody has easy games, or at least EASIER games, and people will have to die at the start anyway, because it starts with minus a few anyway. Plus, overall it would be better for level 3s. They might have the barrier where it’s you die: no trophies. Plus, if they drop, then that’s better for them anyways. Higher level character- - > low trophies- - > dominating opponents

[undone idol]

ur not understanding

[bitter urchin]

im not 💀 nothing I just read made any sense at all

[bitter urchin]

Then they’re just goated, and really good. Not like anybody’s going to take the time to get 100k with a character that low, with only like 3 characters

[undone idol]

i am a level 3 i just can stay level 3 and get 100k trophies... what is the point in having levels if you cant progress

[bitter urchin]

Wdym you can’t progress? Upgrades are a thing?

[undone idol]

if the Match makinng was based on levels then there is no point of upgrading your levels

[bitter urchin]

and if they just stay, well they ruin the game for themselves, but at least they chose to enjoy that way

[undone idol]

just stay level 3 and get 100k trophies

[bitter urchin]

Well it can’t be leagues either, so I don’t know what you’re trying to suggest.

[undone idol]

u get what i mean wont work with levels

[bitter urchin]

At least they chose to spend a year and a half wasting their time, but they’ll rage before that, so once again I don’t understand what you’re trying to prove

[undone idol]

Leagues is based on trophy count... leaugue 1 faces leauge 1 players and so on leaugue 2 faces leaugue 2 players,,, etc

leaugues are based on how much trophies u have in total

[bitter urchin]

According to the same logic

League 12 (I’ve seen somebody in brawlers with 17s for their levels)—>level like 11s against his level 17, because that’s so fair. Not to mention the same thing with league 20

[strange citrus]

That's better

[undone idol]

as i mentioned increasing the leagues to 60k trophies

[bitter urchin]

but then I’ll probably stay a league 3 so I could get the easier people

[strange citrus]

That doesn't make any sense

[undone idol]

like this trophies would be fair for everyone.. and levels will still be a must

[bitter urchin]

How? Steps:

1. Get league 3

2. Wait some time, upgrade characters

3. When I think they are high enough, play.

4. If I get league 4, trophy drop back down

wdym you don’t understand

[undone idol]

its hard to stay leaugue 3... 300 trophies

[strange citrus]

In league 3 it would take you so long to get decent levels, there's no logic

[bitter urchin]

Trophies…we need better matchmaking for LEVELS

[undone idol]

yes by leaugues!!!!! levels wont be fair and just.. and no progression

[strange citrus]

And nobody can voluntarily stay on a specific league while playing the game, trophy dropping is out of the question because it doesn't really work anymore

[bitter urchin]

It would take a long time, yes, but didn’t I say I’d wait sometime? Plus if that’s how you want to think of it, I’ll get league 10 or something first and then go back down. Because league 3 players face league 3 players

[bitter urchin]

Is that how it always works for me 💀

[undone idol]

i like to play with my level 20 friend for example and i am level 6 where does that place me level 6 ?? or level 20????

[strange citrus]

Wdym? you can't drop from 8k trophies to 700

[bitter urchin]

Level 6, because that’s your level lol

[undone idol]

im playing squad with a person that has a level 20

[bitter urchin]

But it doesn’t make you the level 20

[undone idol]

see dosnt make sense ... it cant work... u cant tell friend nnot to play with other friends...

[frigid vault]

That's a bad suggestion from me

[undone idol]

where will the system will put u??

[bitter urchin]

What do YOU mean? If your at 8k trophies, maybe you’re at 6 characters but can get 2k trophies. Maybe you have 8 characters and you’re a lesgue 10 because you have 1k trophies on everybody. Now what if I just get down to 200 on each?

[bitter urchin]

keep thinking that 🤷🏽‍♂️

[strange citrus]

You can't drop back to 200 it's not possible

[frigid vault]

It really is because they won't upgrade

[bitter urchin]

Then what’s the minimum you can drop to?

[strange citrus]

Why would I know or care? I just know you can't drop that low

[frigid vault]

I think 700

[undone idol]

why would someone want drop there trophies is the question

[frigid vault]

For events

[bitter urchin]

Because you’re the one who says you can’t drop to 200? You don’t even know that yet you say it

@undone idol since there is a time thing, events, easier opponents, more fun, maybe?

[frigid vault]

I only trophy drop while doing pop

[strange citrus]

Yes I do know, that you can't drop to 200, I just don't know the minimum, it's probably 500

[undone idol]

they r doing it now what is the differnece if they do it later on

[bitter urchin]

wdym

[undone idol]

if they r dropping there trophies right now for events.... what is the difference is they do it by leaugues?

[frigid vault]

I think it's 700

[frigid vault]

True, it won't be a huge difference

[undone idol]

more hard work? or it will prevent the person to drop there leagues

[bitter urchin]

Because then it’s high levels against low levels all over again and we’re trying to give them ideas to fix it

[undone idol]

high levels dont derank for events....

[bitter urchin]

I meant like level 12s

[undone idol]

if it was by leaugues it will be hard for them to drop

it will take days....

[bitter urchin]

But it wouldn’t change the fact that matchmaking would be horrible again

[frigid vault]

If you drop ,what progress will you make. (League matchmaking)

[undone idol]

it will make a huge difference ... again if they change leauge 20... to 60k... and so on

[frigid vault]

👀 imma be stuck in league 19

[bitter urchin]

Well, league 3 players are normally level 2s and stuff, but if I drop from like league 12 where I’m a level, say, 10, and o get to league 3, then it’s level 12 vs level 2s

[undone idol]

yes but players can progress that way.... and keeping high away from low

[bitter urchin]

What’s the difference?

[undone idol]

level 20s away from lower levels

and 19s and 18s

[bitter urchin]

But if the level 20s are in league 3, how would that be a problem for them? It’s a problem for the low people

[frigid vault]

You normally get lvl 12s like league 7

[undone idol]

do u thinnk a level 20 will stay in leauge 3

[bitter urchin]

No, I was just slow, I got mine at league 10

[frigid vault]

They can't drop to league 3. If you're a lvl 20 you most likely have 37 chars

[bitter urchin]

Gladly, if it were me, gladly. Low levels, easy wins, fun games, not games where you die to some max pheromone

[frigid vault]

And why would a level 20 drop all their characters just for that

[bitter urchin]

Well yeah, but p2w is a thing at low levels to, but it would take some time

[undone idol]

not fun

[bitter urchin]

Very fun, for the 20s. They can like one shot the low characters

[frigid vault]

Facts. The fun games come from challenging plays for me

[undone idol]

same

[bitter urchin]

Same, but I’ve changed my views when pheromone because s thing woolen would p2w for

I’ll go do hw now so I’ll reply later

[undone idol]

plus keeping double trophies on... can seperate them easily.. making it harder for them to go back down

[frigid vault]

I like when some of them have max pheromone.

[frigid vault]

And they will rather grind trophies if double trophies are on

[undone idol]

@pseudo iris can u reduce the time 30 seconds is too much too wait for

[undone idol]

yap 💯

[undone idol]

do you agree to my suggestion? about leauges ?

there is only 20-40 people who have max pheramone

[lost breach]

I agree that would be better

[brave notch]

The game doesn’t care what you think. Just sayin.

[bitter urchin]

They do, just sayin. Search up Mini Content Creator Program. There’s a reason they send out feedbacks for new characters, don’t you think?

[brave notch]

Do they??? We been asking for years for new maps, less hackers. And yet here we are. Do you think?

[bitter urchin]

You didn’t go to the places did you? Shakkington got a whole message wrote by Hilb, the admin, that the idea was discussed by the team. Do you watch lives streams? They gave us a rail map, one more character from now, and after that we get a volcano map. They can’t control hacks. Hackers are PEOPLE not RC cars, You can’t control people, and Zooba is not about to threaten them. If they ban one hack, somebody will make another. Why don’t you manage to get on their team, code a anti-hack, and make a new map. It’s not as easy as everybody thinks it is, just because they aren’t on the team. Besides that, the admins and mods are people as well. Every single person has things they have to do. So yeah, I do actually think.

[dapper sluice]

I mean, all hacks are already known, I think it will be easy to make an anti cheat system, just saying

but yes I do agree with this message

[dapper sluice]

or make five more leagues, I would hate to have to gain 20k trophies just to get back to league 20

[bitter urchin]

i mean, next thing you know, gheyll make a hack where you crash the whole game and someone will do it to everybody just like BoReK in moomoo.io

[dapper sluice]

#اَللُّغَةُ-اَلْعَرَبِيَّة-arabic

[finite flume]

But that's not fair for other players who want to genuinely play the game and get the most trophies

[finite flume]

Any opinions on this idea?

[bitter urchin]

Well I’m not sure why everybody is agreeing to leagues either, because theres definitely a way to make it worse for lower levels and better for higher levels

[dapper sluice]

They are becoming self aware

[frigid vault]

Saw this 💀

[gleaming vessel]

😢

[steep girder]

I think if they implement leagues like @undone idol suggested and reduce the health/damage between levels to a flat rate instead of percentage increase it would fix it. So fighting higher levels wouldn’t be as hard.

Currently a level 20 has twice the health of a level 15, and the gap will just get bigger and bigger if they continue at 15% increases.

[gleaming vessel]

Wow good idea

[dapper sluice]

After level 16 I think they should’ve just added an additional 5% hp increase for each level increase so a level 20 would only have 20% more hp instead of 60%

[steep girder]

It’s even more than 60% because the next 15% increases from the previously increased number, making a 4 level difference a 75% increase

At 5 levels it’s 100%

[dapper sluice]

Huh??

[steep girder]

It’s the way math works lol

[dapper sluice]

15 x 4 is 60 ?

[steep girder]

Correct, but that’s not how percentage math works. The next 15% is based off of a level 16, not from the same 15% of level 15

Level 15 Nix Health 9198, add 15%, now it’s 10578, a difference of 1380

Now a level 16 is 10578, but you’re not going to add 1380, 15% is 1587

[shell osprey]

Have fun with Wanda and Bruce health-

[steep girder]

So the 15% keeps growing and growing making the levels that are higher even further apart

In perspective a level 1 vs a level 9 is the gap of a level 19 vs 20

Percentage based increases are ridiculous at this many levels, the gap is HUGE now.

When they come out with level 21, a level 19 vs 21 would be the same as a level 1 vs level 13

It’s extremely unbalanced, and without switching from percentage increases the matchmaking fix won’t ever help higher levels in super unfair 1 level difference match ups

[steep girder]

This post is complaining about a level 9 vs 15, which is the same health gap of a 18 vs 20, but everyone’s only looking at the number of levels we’re apart instead of what that actually means

[finite flume]

Whaaat that's so crazy!