🌈lgbtq

[wide nova]

lol

[harsh knot]

lol

[civic shadow]

lol

[normal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-laughing-dance-when-you-accidentally-type-typo-gif-17731052

[orchid flume]

Morning gaymers

[wicked jungle]

evening

[harsh knot]

Good morning!

[errant raptor]

greetings o/

[violet dome]

[errant raptor]

because I have an unspeakable urge to see this channel a bit more lively, I'm proposing a prompt....if anybody pops in and would like to participate.

Just: Say one thing about you today. Could be how you are, something you're thinking about, something you're doing, something you're looking forward to. Anything. Just a little check up or fact. Would be nice to see how everyone's doing :).

To start, today, I'm lazing about watching a stream of Dota 2. I'm also hungry and should get some food but...lazy...

[harsh knot]

i'm just thinking about what my bf and i are gonna do in minecraft today, and currently i'm playing on my friend group's server

[violet dome]

I'm waiting for clients to come get vaccinated lol

[errant raptor]

I hope they're not late

[iron escarp]

i've been taking a step back today and trying to do some self care since the end of year with school has been super stressful

like i've really been struggeling throughout school to take breaks when i need it so ive been trying to be more mindful of that sort of stuff

especially since last two weeks have been really rough

ive been questioning myself a lot, which would be good if not for the amount of other stressors i am going through

[lost meadow]

Do you have people to help you? the best thing for me when I went through a rough time was to unwind and watch drag race with a friend of mine.

but that's for me

I hope you are able to find what you are looking for because self love is so important ❤️

[iron escarp]

kind of, i have a few people that i chat online with on the regular and they do let me vent abt this sort of stuff, and ive been doing some stuff for myself(gaming, listening to music, stuff like that)

i just wish it would be easier to find answers to questions that tend to plague me as soon as i've found some sort of sense of security in my identity

like am i somewhere on the trans/nonbinary spectrum? yes
do i ever have a solid idea of where i fit in? not really

and with my romantic identity its even weirder to figure stuff out, not really understanding what the difference of aesthetic/romantic attraction presents itself as for me individually

im still going through some struggles with my name too, and if i wanna continue with either of the names i've chosen for myself

[lost meadow]

Finding people similar to you is important and you should give yourself some time to think about it, also it's fine if you don't have solid answers

[iron escarp]

so its, uh, a lot, most concretely and easily said

[gentle hare]

I dont have terribly much advice here, but I do have to say: If figuring out labels is a source of stress, theres always the option of not forcing yourself to pick any labels. I'm some flavour of NB, probably, but for me, knowing im some flavour of NB is enough and I dont press myself further, because these things can be so fluid sometimes

Obviously if it IS important to you though, I hope you find the answer you need within

[iron escarp]

you do have a point there

but i still struggle with these questions bubbling up inside me and i can't really ignore them that easily, or put them aside, however much i might like to

its like my thoughts run on with me chasing after them sometimes

[violet dome]

Take your time. There's no rush or finish line. I know you've got alot of questions that you want answers to, but at the same time, you don't have to make yourself fit a mold. Being you in any given moment is enough. But yeah, as for the chasing thoughts, that's where conversation with your support system and just good ol self care can help. If you do have the means to talk to a therapist, it's been worth it in my experience, too. They can be really helpful with providing coping methods for the really rough times

[iron escarp]

i mean i already have lots of conversations about my gender identity and sexuality with my therapist, but i cant really say ive had a single discussion about my romantic identity

i guess ive just never felt comfortable discussing my romantic identity/relationships with anybody that isnt like a friend or online

[lost meadow]

It's hard, sexual orientation just mean what you like from your instincts while romantic is deeper and doesn't often give solid answers

[iron escarp]

i mean im asexual so once i found out the label it just fit and made sense

like i did attatch myself to the pan label, simply because i believe personality is more important than gender in my relationships, but i dont know if that neccesarily means i have romantic attraction to every gender or something like that?

[lost meadow]

have you dated? I think some of these things you learn as you go along

and don't forget that it's ok to have a journey and not know all the answers

[iron escarp]

i have been in relationships, but i've never dated in the conventional sense, i was friends with them before i was in a relationship with them

like to the point of knowing them for a long time or like a few years at least

[wicked jungle]

have you thought about what you need for it to become romantic attraction for example?
like it currently does sound a little like demiromantic i think the word was

[iron escarp]

plus i honestly dont see the point of trying to date rn, as ive heard of any dating apps that arent explicitly and 99% for unwholesome purposes

[wicked jungle]

you dont need to date, like you know, that's really valid

[iron escarp]

i mean i have heard of demiromantic, but i am unsure whether it fits me? i feel like i could date without prior long emotional attatchment but it would be hard for me to because yknow asexual and trans

so i dont wanna run into any nasty suprises or anything like that

[wicked jungle]

but yeah maybe you need more than aesthetic attraction or sensual to feel comfortable about thinking of dating somebody, which would absolutely make sense, it would go towards the area of demiromantic, it could

and if you right now dont see yourself being different in your attraction (romantic, aesthetic, sensual) with different genders it's ok if you say that you are panromantic right now

we are fluid af, dear
you can be as aromantic as a... clam? are clams aromantic? one day and feel romantic feelings towards only girls the next and that's fine

so it's good that you already found yourself something that currently where you stand kinda fits, and it is more than enough - i know it probably isnt that enough for you but dont be afraid of "nasty surprises" in the future - you will learn as the time moves on

[iron escarp]

you have a point in saying we are fluid

[wicked jungle]

remember when we were talking about galaxy aesthetics and how awesome they are and how fun it is how that's almost always linked to nb individuals?
galaxies flow, move, breathe, create, destroy, they change over time and so will your understanding of yourself and your identity perhaps too :)

so just find what is most comfortable most of the time and dont fret if it doesnt work the next day!

i used to hold a diary with daily entries of my attraction levels because i just couldnt make sense of them like i wanted to - maybe that's something for you too, or spreadsheets

[iron escarp]

that is actually really reassuring for some reason

[wicked jungle]

^^

you little galaxy, you

[errant raptor]

it's truuuue though. I've discovered things about myself yeaaaars after I "came out"

it's a long process that you aren't always expecting.

[orchid flume]

Yeah!

My partner and I are (hopefully) going on a DATE tomorrow.

First once since Valentines day

Wait no we had one last month, but first TV date since Valentines day

[harsh knot]

YOOOOO i hope y'all are able to!

[orchid flume]

Watching the first two episodes of Owl House Season 2!

[errant raptor]

What's Owl House?

[harsh knot]

oooo nice!!

haven't watched it yet but i know it has some solid representation(?)

[orchid flume]

Only one of the best LGBT+ kids shows

(Sorry I never include Q, it's banned in my main server so I never use it out of habit.)

[wicked jungle]

banned o-o

[orchid flume]

You get told off my a mod for slurs

[wicked jungle]

slurs o-o

[orchid flume]

Queer is considered a slur in places

For me calling me queer cause I'm a non-binary lesbian + cool.
Calling me queer because I have autism = not cool

It's usually only for LGBT issues, but the latter has happened

[wide nova]

Hello I have not come out to my family I am Bisexual. I am 50 and still scared to hear what they might say. I know i probally don't have anything to worry about but I still do. Ugg,

[errant raptor]

there's no helping the anxiety, no matter how certain we may be in the outcome lol.

I hope it lives up to your expectations if you do decide to!

[orchid flume]

Trans youtuber Abigail Thorn always has to blow me away by all her pics cause she's so pretty

https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1403652208932032513/photo/1

Abigail Thorn (@PhilosophyTube)

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[civic shadow]

Gorgeous 😍

[orchid flume]

She's also bi as hell

[civic shadow]

Yaaaas love to see it

[last sedge]

Hi just popping in that I recognize all your struggles orientation wise. I'm ace too 🙂 with every feeling that I have, I start questioning all over again because maybe this is what attraction feels like? Only to come to the conclusion that no, I'm still ace. I too, dont really know where I fall romantically. I think I might be demiromantic since the only crushes and stuff I had were on my (at the time) friends (but not all friends). I dont see the point of dating either, because dating has a romantic endgame. You need to know after a few dates if you like someone. For me, that never happens. I feel like only if I have spoken with someone for months and know them, there is a possibility I like-like them. I mean, I like being with the person but do I romantically like them or do I like the idea of dating?

[orchid flume]

I decided I wanted to do historical LGBT+ people and post about one each day I remember to do so.
This is Lili Elbe the first trans person to legally change genders, and the second to physically transition and undergo surgery from 1929/-1933

[last sedge]

but it's hard, I identify as women (I think, maybe demigirl but I have let gender questioning go for the moment) and I did have crushes on guys when I was in my teenage years and when I was 21 I definitely fell in love with a guy. I'm 29 now (I only knew about ace at 24). But since loving that one guy, it has either been squishes (friend crushes) for me on women, and I think I did like 1 women for real (after we talked for months online). And also I am confused about 1 of my best friends because I know I love her A LOT. I'd do anything for her, I dont feel heartbroken tho (she's hetero and has a BF) so I dont think I am in love with her but I trust her and being with her and cuddles makes me happy. I'd consider that maybe queerplatonic but if one day she wakes up and decides she wants to live together (as friends or more) I would definitely say yes because I love her a lot. So this is a bit confusing to me at times (anyway she lives 9000KM away cuz she moved to the US so)

so now basically I just go by "sapphic ace" because I think I like women more romantically but I too fall on personality and I'm not excluding it might be anyone that isnt a women, but sometimes demiromantic ace. or just aroace cuz its easier, while I do want a partner, I think I'm def not alloromantic

PS. you can always DM me, finding other aces is hard 😂

[iron escarp]

yeah, the romantic endgame just feel like it inherently conflicts with my boundaries and asexuality
i feel like even if people might say they're ok with not having explicit things, it seems to change if you date them for a longer time for no real reason(like they're expecting you to change your orientation/forget your trauma because "you love them")

[last sedge]

I agree, like, some of my friends say "but dating is to know if you like someone" and I'm like "but that might take me years, and there is still a big chance I dont like them, no one is gonna date that long without expecting stuff or at least wanting to know there will be feelings in the end"

[iron escarp]

its especially pervasive for me because of my autism, where im infantilised to begin with and seen as some sort of pure baby for my asexual orientation

[last sedge]

what does pervasive mean?

[iron escarp]

like in this case, my asexuality is connected to my autism like they're wholly connected for all autistic people somehow

[last sedge]

oh yeah the pure baby thing because you're ace I recognize a lot, I try to shut these people out. I am not innocent at all. I may not have done the deed with someone but that doesnt mean I'm not experienced/know what I like and dont like. I'm sick of how sexualized society is

[iron escarp]

like im seen as pure because im ace, but also because of my autism
being babied for having the combitination of both(like an autistic stereotype)

[last sedge]

ahhhhh okay, I think it depends per person. I think it can be connected for some people, but other people are autistic and allo, and others are ace and not autistic

I can imagine you must experience that double the time

it doesnt help that people generally dont know what ace is/only know the misconceptions

[iron escarp]

i mean to me it doesnt feel like its inherently connected
i just feel like im taken as proof that an autistic stereotype is true somehow

[iron escarp]

that certainly doesnt seem to help

[last sedge]

to get back to the topic of mentioning one thing, I am trying to finish the Discussion of my PhD thesis!!! If I finish it today, that will only leave the editting of one other chapter left and then I can apply for my PhD defense 🥳 so that will make me happy if I can achieve that goal today 😄

[orchid flume]

My partner and I are about to go on a date

[violet dome]

Have fun!

[orchid flume]

We're watching Owl House season 2 and I love Eda sooooooooooooo much

[iron escarp]

owl house makes my brain go

[harsh knot]

YOOOOOO HAVE FUN!!!

[solemn ocean]

Heard The Owl House 👀

[orchid flume]

Welp, date done. That was great.

Owl House Season 2 is off to a fantastic start

[iron escarp]

it really is

[solemn ocean]

It is! ❤️

Also that's such a cute date idea

[orchid flume]

I prefer Eda to Luz and Amity tbh, Eda is so gooood.

Wait… season 3 is gonna be the last season… Damn it

[mellow sand]

I do hope Eda turns out to be Bi. That would be fun.

[solemn ocean]

There's a bi-coloured rainbow on her box of cheats, but I haven't seen any actual confirmation

[wide nova]

Ok now i am curious What is Owl House?

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/theowlhouse-hooty-knowledge-vomit-vomiting-gif-18105453

according to tenor: this?

[wide nova]

lol

[mellow sand]

A show about a girl who ends up transported to a world of magic and living with Eda the Owl Lady at the titular Owl House.

It's also one of the best cartoons I have seen in quite a while.

[errant raptor]

Very late to the party but wishing you the best on your efforts today! That's really exciting.

[last sedge]

Ty I managed to send it 😁

[orchid flume]

It's also very gay

The protagonist is bi and she's very close with her classmate who's a lesbian and it's clear they like each other

[errant raptor]

It's about to storm here. and I love rainy weather.

[proper knot]

in other news, who wants to see some cute 'princes'?

Samuel Chatto, Great Nephew to Elizabeth II

the more classically hot Arthur, his younger brother

just found them upon family tree building for the royals

[wicked jungle]

accidental acceptance ftw

[orchid flume]

Lesbians and straight people are out of luck

[clear vale]

They say a typo is the person's true feelings so.... I just made that up

[wicked jungle]

so Dan just really wants to marry a man?

[orchid flume]

Well Sigmund Frued as wrong as he is about everything did introduce the idea that when you misspeak your saying your true feelings

[clear vale]

For once I agree with Freud

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-yes-head-nod-gif-5577652

[orchid flume]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

[wicked jungle]

Classical examples involve slips of the tongue, but psychoanalytic theory also embraces misreadings, mishearings, mistypings, temporary forg...
me being unable to read: haha, temporary frog

[orchid flume]

All my homies love frogs

[wicked jungle]

idk why but i love that so much

[orchid flume]

A frog got in my house the other day, I caught it and put it outside but I really wish I could keep it

[orchid flume]

Just found out Scott Cawthon is a homophobic transphobe so that’s great :/

[wicked jungle]

wait what's the source on that? just him donating to an openly homophobic and transphobic politician among the democrats or did i miss something?

[orchid flume]

Nah just that

[wicked jungle]

o-o
well he has been supportive of lgbt, POC and women in politics in the past so idk how much his political donations show him being anti-lgbt since politicians suck in general - he chose his lesser evil, he says he wont apologize, well shucks
source for those interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/nybyo1/my_response_and_maybe_last_post/

yeah researching more and more about this, it's just real BS taken to the extreme while ignoring what he already did and said in the past *shrug we shall see in the future

[errant raptor]

Well he certainly didn’t put his money where his mouth is

[errant raptor]

How's everyone doing today? My check-in today is I'm learning how rainmeter works. If you haven't heard of it, it's a lightweight desktop customization program. Could be neat to see some Coral Island custom desktops put together

[iron escarp]

im honestly just really tired, i only have two more weeks of school left and im struggling with it

[errant raptor]

what's on your plate for the final 10 days? Exams and such?

[iron escarp]

i mean we have to make a shortfilm, which is a pretty big deadline

and we have 2 other deadlines still left that really put a lot of pressure on me

[errant raptor]

Well, I don't know if these words will be helpful, but do what you can, and not that you will, but even if you fail, it won't be the end of the world.

[iron escarp]

i mean im already passing to the next year so that makes the pressure a lot less

im in art school so we dont really seem to have exams and tests in a conventional sense

[errant raptor]

that's good to know.

so you can just get stuff done. and it's okay if you don't turn in the very best stuff if it means less stress.

[harsh knot]

So far my day is slow and very unmotivated. I’m hoping that I manage to find something to do

[orchid flume]

I'm trying to work on art, but am both very lazy, and am way in over my head.

[errant raptor]

haha how about eat something delicious?

[harsh knot]

Ye I did

[errant raptor]

what'd you have?

[harsh knot]

Eggs, bacon, and toast with pineapple jam

[errant raptor]

I've never had pineapple jam before, but that does sound delicious

[harsh knot]

It’s pretty good! I recommend it

[errant raptor]

I'll look around and see if I can find some :3

[harsh knot]

Ye

Tbh I might just play games with my bf or draw little characters for him and I

[errant raptor]

those sound like pleasant activities

[orchid flume]

Awww

[iron escarp]

:(
My hairdresser keeps trying to shove "hairstyle for women" on me like specifically searching for those terms

And I can't call her out on it bc my parents are transphobic

She keeps saying how cute the hairstyle are and how much they'd fit me and it just

It takes so much energy

[coral hornet]

pro tip: shave all your hair off

[iron escarp]

I've been thinking of that, but I don't have the confidence and the hairdresser thinks it would be ugly

[coral hornet]

ur hairdresser should mind her own business hot take

[iron escarp]

Plus I don't really know how to feel abt it once it gross out a little(I'd look like a toxic person that was in my life)

[coral hornet]

ahh I feel that

[iron escarp]

She should but I literally can't call her out on it ouright

[wicked jungle]

are there any lgbt supportive dressers in your area?

[coral hornet]

you should call her out that’s not her business!!

[wicked jungle]

or any lgbt friends who can cut hair?

[iron escarp]

There might be but my parents will refuse to pay for it if I go to a different hairdresser

[wicked jungle]

o-o

[coral hornet]

ik I’m a rando but I’m on my way to cut ur hair rn

[iron escarp]

Plus she dyes and bleaches for a cheaper price than any salon ever could

And in salons I might face the same issues

[coral hornet]

damnnnn I’m kinda jealous now /hj

[iron escarp]

I can't go to a barber either because they would only groom 'men'

[iron escarp]

:)

I wish I could cut my own hair in the way I like but I don't think I can pull it off

[coral hornet]

you learn by practice yk? that’s how I learned to cut hair

there’s some rlly simple tips you can probably find online that help it not look bad

[iron escarp]

I mean yeah but if I mess up shaving it's much more of an issue

I've styled wigs before so I kinda know what I'm doing for just cutting my hair but yeah

[coral hornet]

shaving is so much easier than actual hair trust me

[iron escarp]

I hate being deadnamed, but I hate having she/her pronouns used to refer to me even more >:(

[coral hornet]

cheers to that

[iron escarp]

Like I don't think I'd be connected to my name regardless of my gender identity

[coral hornet]

yeah I get that

[iron escarp]

It's why I'm so adamant about finding a name that carries meaning and importance to me

[iron escarp]

My mentor for this year keeps doing it too, even though she uses my preferred name

It's really weird, how can somebody respect my name change but not my pronouns

The hairdresser also says that she would let me or family members wait at least the time until a next appointment if we wanna change anything too drastic

Which feels kinda mean and targeted, since she knows I like experimenting with my hair

[frail bison]

Sorry to hear all this @iron escarp I personally dealt with the same stuff so I learned how to cut my own hair, I was in the closet at the time so it was easier than sneaking around trying to find someone to cut my hair because I also had barbers say no to cutting my hair even though I wanted a mens cut. Honestly things get much better when you gain more independence and can rely on yourself to get things done in my personal experience.

[umbral sigil]

It's unfortunate you don't have someone in your life that supports you to do what you want and brings you to do stuff like getting your hair cut however you like, I can't imagine how frustrating and stressful that must be 🥺

Agreed with Aether though, it'll be a really nice breath of fresh air once you're able to go and do these things whenever and however you please

[harsh knot]

Mmmkay so my day started kinda bleh but I played some games with my bf and he straight up redeemed this whole day

[civic shadow]

wholesome

[harsh knot]

yee

[frail bison]

So I recently started trying out dating apps (was nervous because I just came out as trans). So far it has been interesting, like I get matches but then people just don't respond most of the time XD Anyone else have similar issues?

[errant raptor]

that's the typical experience for most people so don't feel bad 🙂

a lot of people just match to see who likes em, very non-committally

[frail bison]

Ah cool, my previous experiences were different before I came out so I was curious if this is just more of a male experience or a trans male experience 😛 lol

[errant raptor]

I see lol

[wicked jungle]

Orphan Black intensifies

[harsh knot]

ok but like, the little bit of text under that image is so spot on with me and i constantly frown upon how i acted years ago, and i'm glad i've changed and developed since
i don't really dress in a lot of colors but i salute everyone who does because it's super cool imo, kinda jealous too because i wanna wear pride flag wizard attire but can't because of where i live

[orchid flume]

I used to be a total lgbt phobe

Now I'm a non binary lesbian, dating a bi girl, who's best friend is a trans man who's gay and has a boyfriend.

[wicked jungle]

people can change, some of us have lgbt phobia ingrained from their family in them *shrug
it all depends on if you yourself make the choice to educate yourself and others and fight against any internalized feeling

[frail bison]

"non binary lesbian" made my brain pause for a moment 😛

[orchid flume]

Why?

Non-binary people can be straight/gay

[wicked jungle]

honestly if it's because it's so many words: same - my brain also always pauses when i go "i'm a non binary panromantic ace" because words many https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[humble tusk]

almost twins I'm a nonbinary biromantic ace

[wicked jungle]

heyo

[harsh knot]

is demiboy, demisexual, bi and also has a trans demiboy, demisexual, bi boyfriend

[orchid flume]

I got lost about halfway through grtyrhtyj

[fickle flint]

In all honestly when you make just one thing your personality, it is cringe

Well we aren't the wisest when we were younger 😂 as long we are more mature now it's all good

I know a gay person who doesn't feel "fit in" because he's not the stereotypical gay person you know. Who's cheerful, colorful, fashionable, etc. Even though he knows he doesnt have to be like that to be acknowledged as gay, he still feels like it.

[harsh knot]

i feel kinda like that sometimes? but i also think i'm doing just fine in that respect

[civic shadow]

me telling myself all through school that I'm straight

Me now: so that was a lie

[civic shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[gloomy tendon]

i missed it but i'm an aroace nb

less of a mouthful except if i go all aromantic asexual non-binary and even then

[frail bison]

This is exactly what I mean, like my brain just starts stumbling trying to keep up XD I never had a great memory for names or sentences though so like maybe that is why

[chilly river]

This is why the label 'queer' is so helpful. I don't like going into detail (it's complicated and confusing, and sometimes I'm Just A Mess), so just calling myself queer is a lot more comfortable and relaxing than making a long list.

[fickle flint]

I'm still not sure in using queer since people still have mixed reaction about it. Some say it was a slur some say it is slur

[chilly river]

Terfs have been trying to return it back to that, sure. But it's one of the oldest labels in the history of alphabet soup. Queer history, Queer theory. If you don't wanna use it for yourself, don't want people to call you that, perfectly understandable. I just use it for me because it's simpler.

And I mean... pretty much every word LGBT+ use to describe themselves has gone through that. Gay being slung around as an insult, lesbian being whispered like a bad word. Every person decides what they're most comfortable using as a label, but all of our labels have gotten that treatment.

[fickle flint]

This is so true. Well as for me, i dont really care about label so i dont really mind. It's more like.. what about the others think.. i'm afraid i'll offend someone, that kind of feeling

[civic shadow]

When your dad says if a female is masculine there's something wrong with her lmao

I'm a bit more masculine than your average girl

Thanks dad 👍

[fickle flint]

There's nothing wrong with just being who you are

[wicked jungle]

apparently it's a slur towards neuro-divergent people and also a shortening for a slur in some languages but only in smaller instances tho as well?

[iron escarp]

i think for a term like queer it should be fine to reclaim it if you're in the lgbtq+ community, as long as you dont force the term on other people

reclaiming terms that have been used in a hateful way against your community in the past can be empowering to some, but i think you should always respect the fact that many people most likely wont feel empowered by it, and as such will dislike it being used for them or the community at large

[wicked jungle]

Mulan is gonna make a man out of him then.

[iron escarp]

like for me personally, even though queer isnt the only 'term' i could reclaom, i dont feel comfortable even touching the others

especially because a lot of the reclaimable "terms" are still very actively used against a minority group so that could be a source of the discomfort with it for many

[mellow sand]

I personally don't like the Q word at all. Like reclaiming slurs has never appealed to me and I don't understand entirely why people want them in the first place.

Like the Q word was never good in the first place. It's original meaning was weird or unusual and it feels counter to making LGBT more normalised to use a word like that.

[gentle hare]

Some people feel empowered by taking things back that were used to hurt them, which is what a lot of LGBT rallys were like in the beginning.

My wife identifies as queer, primarily because gender and sexuality mess, and she doesnt like splitting hairs down to every aspect of herself, so, queer was her choice. But she's also the sort of person who is proud to be an unusual weirdo, anyway

[wicked jungle]

yeah it's personal for everyone, as long as you dont use it with malice it's alright to say it and use it for yourself or people who identify with it. of course it's good to talk about what other people think of the word, and honestly it's really nice to see so many opinions on it coming through rn :3

[gentle hare]

I think it should be up to the individual, mostly, although it is also the commonly used phrase in a lot of instances (see also: Queer History classes)

And I mean, I'm old enough to remember people hurling gay around as an insult meaning stupid, which I find way worse than being called weird? And gosh, lesbian was treated like a dirty word for porn only

[wicked jungle]

it's still being done ._.

[gentle hare]

Its also important to remember how fluid language around sexuality and gender has been. Some of the words that are deemed transphobic now were THE terms people proudly proclaimed themselves, and older LGBT+ folks still use them because those are their words, their identity

[wicked jungle]

i guess the issue with queer for alot of people is, that it's still being used as an insult for very different things away from the lgbt

[gentle hare]

I do think people who dont like using the word should shift from q slur to maybe just... q word? to at least respect folks who DO want and reclaim it, cause I know folks feel really invalidated and hurt by seeing q slur used

[wicked jungle]

oh yeah absolutely

i have honestly never heard of any slurs called as "first letter-slur"? o.o
but that might just be me?

[gentle hare]

ive heard f slur but thats about it

[wicked jungle]

yeah cause there is an f word already

the f word and the instrument *fingerguns /j

[gentle hare]

nfjgkgkg LMALOOOOO

I do have to wonder how much debate around queer is a regional thing too, though. I cant recall anyone around here saying it negatively to myself or my wife, save for like, or negatively in general, save for like, while watching tv

0pbfjrjf I GUEES IT SURE IS

[umbral sigil]

Remember to keep convos sfw please

[mellow sand]

Yeah. I don't mind the personal aspect. I just prefer not to be referred to by the Q word as I have a history with it and I especially don't want to be called it by other LGBT people.

[iron escarp]

thats more than fair dranlia

[orchid flume]

I wanna show my mom my art because she's curious but also hella bigoted and I haven't drawn a single drawing that doesn't have a pride flag, two same sex people embracing, or isn't a masc presenting enby in a dress in weeks

[orchid flume]

I hear "r slur"

[wicked jungle]

and we will respect that wish with nothing else needed to be said

also i was using a rainbow marker today in class and my student just asked me if i'm an ally, such a cutie

[rustic drum]

That's adorable

[frigid vine]

To whomever recommended ‘Tell me Why’, Thank you ❤️
I finished it last night and I think my soul needed that game.

[frail bison]

@blissful granite did

[frigid vine]

Well bless you. It was kinda a healing experience for me specifically xD

[blissful granite]

You're welcome. ❤️

[errant raptor]

oh all the chapters are free for June

[umbral sigil]

I played through that game, it was so wholesome 🥺 Sad at times, but sweet, I loved the siblings' relationship

[errant raptor]

even watching the trailer alone gave me that vibe haha. I don't know how well I handle sad games

[umbral sigil]

It isn't overly sad, it's not like made to have you crying your eyes out or anything, just tugs on your heart strings for sure. It's a really good experience of two siblings reconnecting to fill in some blanks in their past, and it's a really amazing story

[errant raptor]

well, I guess there's nobody better time to play it then.

[umbral sigil]

Let us know what you think!

[errant raptor]

[orchid flume]

Convo with my partner rtgrehytjuh

[wide nova]

i downloaded it last night, going to try it after work. What did you thik of it?

[errant raptor]

I haven't spent much time with it so I can't give an opinion yet :). We'll be finding out simultaneously it seems :3

[orchid flume]

I remember reading a book from the 70's and they were trying to make a character seem weird and out of touch but I was like, "and the problem."

So the main character had her baby and a guy asked her the babies gender and the hippie woman came up and said babies don't have genders and we shouldn't force em on them because we never know how they'll grow up.
Me: "This is genius, shame it's trying to make fun of these people."

[orchid flume]

My partner called me her girlfriend I'm so happy :)

[harsh knot]

d'aww cute

[orchid flume]

We have been together seven months and this is the first time

[kind dagger]

That’s awesome Alex! The best things take time ☀️

[lost meadow]

thanks buggs, you too

[little pier]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdAYoKw6/

I am embarrassed but hope everyone is having a happy pride month 🥰

[proper sand]

@little pier where is your pfp from??

[little pier]

The one on discord?

It's from a game I played when I was a kid, called Tricksters

[gloomy ember]

Happy pride month!!

[orchid flume]

They turned the frogs gay

[errant raptor]

won't anyone think of the frogs

[wicked jungle]

happy pride month to you and bear(and bear's sib), you beautiful people 🥺 🌈

[cosmic basin]

Happy pride month everyoneeeeeee 🥰🌈

[earnest slate]

The month may be almost over but Happy pride yall!! For us, pride is everyday :3

[wintry monolith]

Thank you! You too!

[mellow sand]

Pride will be every day for me. I will make sure to never be ashamed to be me.

[iron escarp]

that is a great sentiment

especially because rememberance days and such as well as pride month just end in the commodification and most of the time commericialisation of things

do i think its important to mourn those lost to specific causes and movements? yes, do i think it makes sense to only focus on it for like a week or a day in a year? no, especially if it concern a community you yourself are actively a part of or are an activist for

i mean i can even see it in how names of specific people important to the protests/movement of the lgbtq community are only actively remembered in that timeframe and then forgotten about until the next time its 'relevant'

i mean community-wide pride does generally benefit from something like a month or a week specifically for that community or a part of it

but personal pride, pride in your identity, should not have to be limited or shelved as soon as pride month is over(i have actually heard that said before as an actual argument)

[wicked jungle]

oh yeah it totally sucks that personal pride gets limited, i genuinely hate not being able to walk around with flags or very gay clothing without getting mocked or yelled at unlike in pridemonth where it's just "ah it's that month again, let them have it"

but "PRIDE" seems truly more like a memorial time for the shootings and the battles we've won because of our POC lgbt+ sibs, so that bigger corporations see us as viable human who want and deserve to get merchandise with the themes of pride, lgbt and all that jazz.

does it additionally suck that those moments are currently mostly locked to one month? yes, but it's already a step forward. it may be capitalism driving bigger corporations to add rainbows to their logos and gay looking merchandise but it allows for industries fully fixated to make lgbt stuff buyable all year round. i can imagine that brands like tomboyx and others wouldnt exist to the extent we have now if it werent seen as ok and truly a good investment to produce something rainbow.

Those who limit their and other's personal pride, misinterpreting actual pride deserve to be taught that "PRIDE" may be a memorial month for the battles we won so far, but that we can still be gay outside of it
thanks for coming to my TED talk, happy PRIDE Month and always be prideful of yourself :)

[iron escarp]

i mean over here the memorial time stuff def feels different

which just feels dismissive to the national fight we had for our pride-related freedoms and rights

[wicked jungle]

then it's time to educate those who feel that pride is the only time you're allowed to have pride in yourself, if oyu mean it's different in that way?

[iron escarp]

i mean we still do, nonbinary is still mostly not accepted all around and im not even sure you can change your birth certificate or your official documentation to be gender neutral/nonbinary affirming

[wicked jungle]

oh yeah i'd love to know more about my national fight for the lgbt but america definitively had its fingers everywhere, heck it's the first and only thing we talk about when talking about racism and slavery issues in the past and how they got dealt with for the present and how they still impact today
we've never talked about german racism (outside of the second world war issue but that's another thing) or the fact that germany owned alot of colonies even in china

it's definitively the easiest date accessable to all tho :)

[iron escarp]

i mean the netherlands literally has almost as big of such a history as england does

so its like not good at all and we cant even societally acknowledge even that

let alone something like discrimination against trans/nonbinary people or other lgbt+ folks

also the veneration of hatred of minotity groups by race, regilion or identity is still very much rampant here

i might not be "proud" of all of my identity because it is hard for me, but im damn well not gonna let that hatred make me feel worse for it

i refuse to let hateful folk influence how i feel about the communities i belong to

[wicked jungle]

amen to that, absolutely same
we have the biggest amount of n@7is here where i live and nobody talks or acknowledges that ._.

we got 3 memes about the city next over having the most right wing party as their city's main party but that was it

[iron escarp]

i mean its actually really bad here, as in the perception of those issues in our neighbouring countries

in the sense of them not acknowledging the issues at all

i will not stop fighting, regardless of if its in the form of protesting/signing petitions, educating or personal development and pride

[calm shell]

i dont see people talking much about the meaning of pride and talking about their personal pride any more because I'm not part of communities like that anymore but it makes me really happy to see! im so glad we have this chat

[torn rover]

You can in California. My fiancee saw it as a option in the paperwork. (she's MTF Trans)

[iron escarp]

i mean im in the netherlands so its a completely different place, but its good that other places do seem to have it

[iron escarp]

i think its because community wide efforts, especially in relation to centering our communitities experiences in america, tend to take centre stage

i mean a lot of the online community seems to only centre itself around the american community, which would be fine if that didnt mean actual european community members ignore the state of homophobia/transphobia in their own countries

i mean i know im still mostly uneducated about our own history with the lgbt+ community while knowing a lot more about both the american and the british dealings with it, past and present

[calm shell]

DEFINITELY omg, I know that we have it a bit better than some european countries but here in the uk there's still a lot of issues

[iron escarp]

i mean here in the netherlands even homophobia is still rampant

ive seen adverts featuring gay 'couples' vandalised as well as still too much disrespect to the bars n such that mark themselves as lgbt+ friendly/safe spaces

its genuenly sickening how trans people, esp those that arent fully medically transitioned get treated as well when it comes down to relationships/dating

like the old standards of the diagnostic criteria of trans people is the only even slightly acceptable way to exist as a trans person

which is genuenly discouraging to me as somebody that only wants top surgery and identifies with both the nonbinary and trans term but honestly i cant care abt it at all

if people dont want to see me for who i am and what i identify as, or at least in the sense of the intention of befriending or dating somebody especially, i dont see why i should continue to keep them in my life

if somebody makes it clear from the get go they dissaprove of my transitioning wishes or the way i identify myself, why should i have to change so they can feel better about themselves

[orchid flume]

Me hanging out in a servers VC last night.
You know you and (girlfriend) are such good friends.
Me: Act- ag forget it

[graceful geyser]

omg you got gal pal'ed

[orchid flume]

The thing is we’re public about our relationship in the server.

So public it became a running joke for everyone that we were terrible at hiding it.

[graceful geyser]

lol

[wintry monolith]

Lmao

That's fantastic

[torn rover]

it's still pretty bad in some regions of USA. California is progressive to the point where half of USA hates on California. commie-fornia is a common insult i've seen.

[wicked jungle]

wait wrong gif 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/going-down-its-about-to-go-down-fight-challenge-kevin-heat-gif-5696747

[frail bison]

Just had a very validating phone call with my scary butch Ukranian grandmother. I was telling her when I am being lazy watching shows my roomie will just come get me to clean things and she was like "see I don't agree with that. You should not be lying around doing nothing. That's what men do." I then laughed and said "yes, yes they do, I am the husband of the house" which made her laugh because my roomie is a girl. Ohhhh if only grandma knew that recently I came out as a trans man. For now I will savor this mini victory before she finds out and decides to get out her stick she used for beating my siblings and I when we were kids XD

[normal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-balloons-party-gif-3551272

[small nova]

hello lgbtq community

BE WHO YOU AREEEEEEE 😍

FOR YOUR PRIDEEEEEEEEEEE 😍😍😍

[tall swift]

LOL

[normal ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcZlZ_DrF54

[civic shadow]

Hell yeah

What a beautiful man

[normal ice]

now if we can just get Black Widow also My wife would be very happy

[harsh knot]

I can’t remember, isn’t Loki also bi in Norse mythology? Or is my memory being funky again?

[civic shadow]

Wasnt he pregnant?

[graceful geyser]

ig? he did sleep with a male hore
as a female horse admitidly

[graceful geyser]

yes! as a female horse he gave birth to odin's 8 legged horse

[civic shadow]

Ahh

Horsey 🐴

[harsh knot]

Ah, so kinda?

[normal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hiddleston-loki-gif-7446409

[young juniper]

At this point I'm not sure if "pansexual" is the more accurate term for Norse Loki?
Since... he'll probably bang everything and everyone, not matter the sex or race of the partner or himself lol |D

He's also the parent of Hel, Jörmungandr and Fenris. Father in those cases, I think, since he got them with the... uh. Titan?

*Titaness, maybe more like

[graceful geyser]

yeah that's right

[small nova]

he is cannon bi though, he’s not pan. it would be bi erasure to call him pan 🥲 i see where ur coming from tho

[brazen willow]

to qoute a show i watched

was loki the first trans person?

[fickle flint]

*god

But iirc loki the one that gave birth to his horse child right?

But during that moment he also shifted into a mare

[brazen willow]

ye he was the momma

[brazen willow]

the translation for the show i was watching said person for the line

[young juniper]

Canon in terms of the TV show you mean, right?

[orchid flume]

Trans people have existed for thousands of years

[umbral sigil]

They're discussing a mythological figure which, depending on the lore, probably predates humans

[orchid flume]

I was putting it in terms of when the myth of Loki came to be.

I know you could be trans one direction but not the other back then.

[brazen willow]

As previously stated this was a quote from a show

[brazen willow]

When did Norse mythology actually say bi tho

[young juniper]

That's why I asked if they meant 'canon in the TV series', since... the "real canon" is the mythology 👀 🤷‍♀️

[brazen willow]

Yeah the real canon is just he gonna fuck shit (why is Loki just a pan Zeus but with some giant mixed in)

The Zeus bits just a joke about how he hes done shit as an animal it had nothing to do with powers btw

[iron escarp]

i mean loki has much more prominent traits that "has done some stuff"(same with zeus but im much less knowledgable on him)

but his gender fluidity "stated" in the loki tv series is very much grounded in the mythology

technically many norse gods could be considered part of a more fluid identity, considering what we know abt Seiðr magic

[kind dagger]

Hello! Please keep the language PG ❤️

[iron escarp]

I've removed the bad language

I apologise, I was merely quoting from alexed's post

[kind dagger]

Thank you, and if there was previous usage of language and I did not see it, I apologize.

[wicked jungle]

i believe Loki is the first trans person for Disney/Marvel? maybe even first openly bi character but i actually dont feel 100% about that. please actually correct me on that 👀

but as deity Loki was trans character one amongst many. Some egyptian gods had both feminine and masculine traits and names. Shintoism features alot of shapeshifters and nonbinary deities and characters who could have any kind of sexuality. There are stories of ordained monks and nuns changing gender, taking on the opposite sexes physical attributes and they are accepted by the Buddha (Jackson 1993). The greek Pantheon also had a god for all intersex people and the myths with Caeneus/Caenis (a afab trans man who wished to become a man and even got inpenetrable skin from Poseidon, very cool from a very horrible deity dude)
he was definitively genderfluid and his sexuality was pretty fluid as well, but since the differences between pan/bi/omni are really muddled and in the end more about "what do you identify with more", he can be considered all, i'd say

[small nova]

idk abt norse mythology, but the character in the mcu loki is cannon bi not pan

[brazen willow]

as i said norse mythology

[small nova]

i’m not talking abt the mythology (as i said), it’s what’s cannon in the mcu

[small nova]

yeah!

i’m not talking abt mythology at all, i’m not well versed in norse mythology so i really couldn’t say what loki’s sexuality is in norse mythology. i’m just talking abt the show, loki is canonically bi in the mcu! it’s confirmed that he’s not pan he’s bi, and i’ve seen many bi people upset abt the erasure happening with mcu loki. i’m just stating his cannon sexuality which isn’t pan, although we do definitely need more pan rep erasing bi rep isn’t a good way to do it! also i’m so sorry if i’m coming off as rude/argumentative it’s not my intention 😭 i just wanted to give my opinion :))

[brazen willow]

ah then sorry about everything, but in the mythology hed do anything that moves including a horse because he had to distract it

[small nova]

ahh ok i see what ur saying 😭

[young juniper]

Naaaah don't worry I didn't perceive you as rude or aggressively argumentative :3
I was just a bit astonished by your "canon Loki" wording, since.. I my eyes, the "real canon" is the mythology and in that, he's a bit more than "just" bi |D

But yea, him being canonically bi in MCU, that seems to be a fact now. Haven't started watching his show, tho, but am planning to do that (as soon as my bf and I watched the last episode of Falcon & Winter Soldier) :3
Makes sense for him to be established as at least bi and genderfluid (? if that is established now, too), since MCU took a rather creative way of re-interpretating him (spoiler: in mythology, he isn't Thor's brother in what way whatsover, but more like Oðin's one iirc)

[granite forum]

i'm from Scandinavia and i'm learning so much i wish i had known sooner 👀

[wicked jungle]

https://i.redd.it/0cdyj361e6771.png for whoever's interested
(source: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/o6wuuw/an_updated_lgbtq_travel_safety_index_with_a_new/)

oh whoops i forgot how tiny the image would become on discord 👀

[small nova]

ohh ok i see! i never knew that loki wasn’t thor’s brother in mythology :0 that’s interesting!

[brazen willow]

Well not odins brother, but his blood brother

[granite forum]

This is kinda out of nowhere but do any of you have any tips on how to deal with misgendering? Specifically with people you are close with doing it?

[blissful sable]

One word: AIRHORN

[wicked jungle]

one pic:

[granite forum]

i would be kicked out and be homeless then

[wicked jungle]

but yeah it depends on why they are misgendering you - if it's because they are simply not used to it, then constantly correct them and praise them if they finally get it right
if it's because of them not accepting your identity: i dont think anything can help there? that's honestly a question i also have

i hope it looks more like this for you

[granite forum]

well some of them aren't used to it which is understandable but if i correct them they get mad/annoyed. Other family members simply don't understand it despite being fully acceptable of gay people. Being trans is just weird to them

[wicked jungle]

have you talked with them about why they get mad at it?

[granite forum]

because i point out the fact that they misgendered me, tho i have tried to explain how i'm just trying to nicely correct them and they are thankfully slowly understanding

[wicked jungle]

then it's just practice practice for them

you can ask them how it would be easier for them - i believe it's especially common for genderfluid people to always say where they're at

[granite forum]

yeah it's just more the family members that don't understand it at all and continues misgender me

[wicked jungle]

so when you wanna talk with them you're just like "hey, it's me, ZinZin, go by they/him, and wanted to talk to you"

i apologize for mistypign your name so badly ;o;

[granite forum]

well they said changing my name legally would help, i'm getting that done but now they are getting angry saying that i'm getting it done saying i've been brainwashed or something

[wicked jungle]

oh ew

[granite forum]

it's fine xD

[humble tusk]

I recommend looking through or sharing the articles by this lovely bean, they write about pronouns and tips for both cis and trans people https://kconrod.medium.com/

[wicked jungle]

so only if the state calls you by your preferred name, they feel the force of needing to call you like that aswell? that's really gross
especially the brainwash thing, jesus, i'm sorry that's happening to you :c

[granite forum]

well weird thing is they think i've been brainwashed by my mother, saying that she made it up cause she wanted another son

[wicked jungle]

o-o

[granite forum]

only because she was the first i told and first to accept me

but it is slowly getting better, they deadname me a lot but have recently said my current name once or twice

[wicked jungle]

i'm double sorry that they not only dont accept you but also badmouth her, as the first who accepted you ;-;

[wicked jungle]

baby steps! small progress :)

[granite forum]

yeah it sucks but they were the same when being told i was autistic and it took some years for them to get used to that as well so i'm hoping they will eventually get used to it and call me by my current name eventually

[wicked jungle]

but yeah, definitively dont stop correcting them, else it would potentially be understood as you accepting the deadnaming and misgendering :c it will be a harder and longer journey but since they are already getting better at using your correct name, you will get there

i believe in you, fight on 😊 💙

[granite forum]

thank you 😊

i really needed someone to talk to so thanks for being here :D

[wicked jungle]

always

[mental sonnet]

Just saw on Twitter that Utada Hikaru came out as non-binary, so happy for them!! 💖

[umbral sigil]

Omg I love Utada Hikaru, Kingdom Hearts music gets me so emotional 🥺 Very happy for them

[cosmic basin]

Omg I love them!!!

[iron escarp]

I saw it too! It's amazing they came out

[orchid flume]

Actually his pronouns are now he/him

[mental sonnet]

Oh! Didn't know that, I read on the twitter thread to use they/them as we wait for official confirmation ^^

[orchid flume]

I avoid pronouns til I know.

[humble tusk]

I can't find anything on what pronouns they're going to use yet but I did find this https://twitter.com/coffeebeanbun/status/1408885605417644032?s=20

amie (they/them) (@coffeebeanbun)

utada hikaru is confirmed to be non-binary but the declaration of “he/him” pronouns was someone else!! please wait for utada hikaru to say so on their own Twitter @/utadahikaru and just use “they” if your are unsure what to call them!!

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[fickle flint]

😭

[signal hull]

Drop the title tho 🤧

[fickle flint]

It's junai junbi

[orchid flume]

I can’t stand when people use themselves for singular they/thems. It’s not himselves or herselves ot itselves, of zirselves so why themselves.

[humble tusk]

Probably just a carryover from the plural, I imagine similarly to singular you using plural verbs

[wicked jungle]

agree with wren

• most still use "they are" over "they is" for the singular they/thems
• "themself" might sound meh to some (i dont like it for myself, i do prefer using and seeing "themselves" used for me; this is exactly why we ask people to correct us, and also are open to correcting others :) )

[iron escarp]

i mean how it works with dutch gender neutral pronouns im like 99% sure anything that comes after is plural

just because of the nature of the dutch language ig?

[civic shadow]

I think instead of getting angry, politely correct them. Most allies and even members of the LGBTQ community are open to correction.

[dry swift]

Unfortunately, that might not be viable in some situations

[earnest slate]

Not everyone gets it right the first time around, and some people refer to their pronouns differently than others. Language barriers are also a thing, as some languages don't have a gender when referring to a person. Example: The Filipino language Tagalog refers to a person as "siya," which holds no gender and is considered "they/them." This is why plenty of Filipinos mix up genders when speaking in English. Most of the time it's not because they're in denial, is just that language barrier that makes them say things like that.

[orchid flume]

Awww

[orchid flume]

Me trying to figure out if two of my friends are dating when there's a big chance they are.

[rustic drum]

Lmao not saying you're wrong but that brings me back to when I came out and I had 2 people immediately ask me if me and my friend in high school were secretly dating then 😂 apparently there was lots of wild speculations that we were hahahaha

We were not 😅

[orchid flume]

Here's the thing, they keep talking about how much they love to make out with each other and they're both polyamorous.

The plausible deniability comes from the time on one said friends loudly announced their plans to kiss my girlfriend in front of me as a joke.

[harsh knot]

That was me trying to find out if my now bf was flirting with me before him and I started dating

I now know that he was, in fact, flirting with me and my brain was just too small to figure it out

[rustic drum]

OH I SEE yeah thats different than what my situation was hahahahah 😂

[orchid flume]

My now partner: "I wish to kiss you, and move across the world to live with you."
Me:

[harsh knot]

Ye

That was literally my now bf and I didn’t pick up on those signals for a long time

Him: what if we got married in stardew valley 😳
Me: ye free stardrops

[orchid flume]

Even my best friend who's a gay man was telling me a lesbian I was oblivious.

And he knows nothing about how girls flirt and stuff.

[mellow sand]

Oh yeah. When I asked out my now girlfriend almost all our mutual friends already knew we liked each other when we told them.

[orchid flume]

I love my gf so much

[opaque kelp]

My datemate is perfect for me, just as scatterbrained as me lol

[orchid flume]

Awwww

Being the dumb one dating the smart one is fun

[opaque kelp]

We are both the dumb one 😌

[chilly river]

Sharing the one braincell? XD

[orchid flume]

My partner is one of the top students at her school, and has already set a really lucrative career for herself, meanwhile I'm the idiot who can't cook mac and cheese consistently.

[opaque kelp]

Oh see, I am an engineer, but that really doesn’t make me the smart one. I’m an absolute idiot outside of work hours

[orchid flume]

Valid

Everyone thinks my partner is a genius but in actuality she's almost as dumb as me.

My partner and I in public, me being a loud dumbass her being the smart one who wrangles me.
Us in private: "let's make a dragon and his deity sibling share an oversized sweater cause their perfectly ordinary shared dad put them in timeout."

[opaque kelp]

My datemate is coming over for a day long crafting and cooking date on Monday cause we both have the day off and I am excited because they are amazing but I haven’t been able to see them much with their shitty work schedule

[orchid flume]

Today is my partners birthday.

I love them dearly, and I can’t be more grateful for the opportunity to have met them.

[frail crest]

Artwork I've made for Pride 2021
https://www.behance.net/gallery/120761307/Never-be-Afraid-to-be-Yourself-Pride-2021

[gentle hare]

My wife and I are absolutely the "shares one braincell type" fff
we got good balance with that tho, she's the gay who can drive and im the can who can do math XD

.... arguably tho one of cats is the one usually using the braincell, we're mostly idiots Xd

[harsh knot]

Y’all a mood though, my bf can drive and I can barely do math and we both have to take turns on the brain cell

[orchid flume]

My girlfriend can do math, I can drive

[iron escarp]

i cant do either

i dont think i'll ever be able to drive actually i dont think my brain can handle it

and as for math, i am alright at it until i need to do a math test or exam or smth

i might have a lot of braincells but they're all reserved for my special interests and being as gay as humanly possible

[gentle hare]

Yeah im in the "never gonna be able to drive boat". Depth perception and the fact that im a nervous flinchy panicky lil rabbit is just.... nah.

Oh math tests I absolutely bombed when I was in school too busy drawing or sneaking video games into school pls dont be me kids but im quick with every day math and can usually guess how much groceries will cost while shopping within two dollars, so

on the other hand, there's a fight in Final Fantasy XIV that requires math and prime numbers and my brain clicks off everytime, so "good" might be an overestimation? XD

[wide nova]

Omg - I am sitting here reading this page just giggling away. The way its being said is so funny. I drive but my husband wishes i didn't at times, He can do math way better then me, Let's put it this way I applied to be a dealer at a casino went to a few classes and got asked to leave, LMAO. So embarrassing. Any ways I am sorry for being a creeper had to say something. LOL

[orchid flume]

Best part about being genderfluid is feeling one gender for an uncomfortably long amount of time then Doubting if you're REALLY fluid.

[opaque kelp]

Oh mood. Especially when it matches my agab. That’s when I really start doubting myself

[twin garden]

My gender feels like it’s gotten more stable with time, but I definitely get this with sexuality. Am I into guys this week? Girls? Non-binary folks? Who knows! If I get stuck with one set of feelings too long I can start wondering ‘am I just gay?’ Or ‘am I just straight?’

Though my first reaction on seeing the Coral Island cast art earlier this year was basically ‘why is everyone so hot!?’ So… yeah.

[dry swift]

There's also a difference between aesthetic and attraction. Like, I'm solely attracted to guys, but I can appreciate all kinds of beauty or handsomeness, etc.

[orchid flume]

Same, been feeling like a cis girl for a couple weeks and am beginning to doubt myself

[wintry monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570711035678425103/860919342095269908/211018504_10225917327182478_1357864938507357562_n.png

[frail bison]

Girlfriend (on the left) and I went shopping and picked out each other's outfits. Had a wonderful time 😊

I however just kept making jokes while they tried to take cute pics, this is my favorite one. Looks like their just rolling their eyes at me XD

I think they probably are 🤭

[sterile wadi]

they totally are lol

[orchid flume]

That's so cute!

[orchid flume]

Me and my partner went on a date this morning!

[opaque kelp]

Nice!

[orchid flume]

It was slightly ruined by the abysmal tiktok comment section she was dealing with, but that's a story for another time.

We watched Owl House, while I talked nonstop about how much I love Eda.

I can't believe Eda is 45, I thought she was like mid 30's

[normal ice]

Just being random

[wide nova]

https://youtu.be/vASD7kkGdqs Endago and I can not watch this video without crying

[civic shadow]

Yall both are 😍

[molten apex]

I love this server already omg :0

[calm shell]

its a great place to be!

[wide nova]

If ya have to wear compression socks mightvas well show your pride 😋

[iron escarp]

making the best of a bad situation, right?

[harsh knot]

Ouch! Compression socks hurt, at least you’re showing pride with them

[chilly river]

Fellow compression sock wearer!

[wide nova]

Yes im not alone 😋 i got these on amazon and they feel 👍 great

[wintry monolith]

Do you have a link for those? 👀

[chilly river]

I get mine from https://crazycompression.com/ (Or at the grocery store, but they've been out for a while...)

[wide nova]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PDH3GGY/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=A1VKJQ5GNRNG2E&th=1

[wintry monolith]

💛

[wide nova]

no problem, i have them on all day and they still feel great

[wide nova]

I just went to this site - they seem pricey, i got 6 pairs for 25.00 on Amazon. I do like the designs though.

[mellow sand]

Oh dear. Couldn't spoiler on mobile

[orchid flume]

Hey I was gonna watch that with my gf tomorrow :/

[mellow sand]

I did watch it with my gf.

[orchid flume]

We just watched

[iron escarp]

i didnt get to watch it yet either aaaa

[mellow sand]

Sorry I got it spoiled too. It uploaded before I noticed it wasn't spoilering and by that point I was too awkward about it to remove it.

[violet dome]

@mellow sand no worries, but please make sure you can spoiler tag if you're going to post spoilers for anything!

[orchid flume]

My gf and I are dying over it rn

[iron escarp]

the episode was really good i just watched it

is it clear how much of them are left at this point for the season bc i dont know

[flat scaffold]

I pieced together what happened here based on Dranlia's icon & the fact that stuff about a show got posted in this channel. So I went to actually watch it for myself after. Good stuff.

[wintry monolith]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1001976782/axolotls-lgbtq-pride-sticker

These are so cute!!

https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qq72v8KasU1ykdvlm.mp4

[orchid flume]

God I get hella imposter syndrome since I just wear baggy clothes, and don't mind my agab pronouns.

I'm like, "I'm really out here taking attention away from people who need this more than me?"
When I know that's dumb.

[civic shadow]

I'm Waluigisexual

[orchid flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622065697568194591/863774108684255272/tyn0f82vvha71.png

[graceful geyser]

sasfvsvsvfsdfvsd

[surreal lion]

lmao

[opaque kelp]

My datemate is very much On My Wavelength (preemptive note: I prefer white wine and happen to be dating a white person, not stating a preference for white people)

[harsh knot]

awww, y'all adorable

[fierce junco]

Y'all cuuute

[frigid vine]

That was the kinda wholesome stuff I needed after my shift at work xD

[frail bison]

Ahahaha yeah my gf and I make similar jokes, me being white as a ghost and them being a biracial Goddess! I lean heavily into the dad jokes, gotta have some cheeeese with this cracker 😛

[molten apex]

That’s adorable 🥺🥺🥺

[orchid flume]

My girlfriend is South Easy Asian and I'm white.

[dry swift]

For the wlw on here, have this thing I found on tumblr:

https://vaspider.tumblr.com/post/190993874756/have-you-seen-the-flag-based-off-the-sappho-poem?is_related_post=1

[opaque kelp]

please don’t make me go to Ohio

[orchid flume]

Git, go to Ohio!

[twin garden]

I left Ohio over a decade ago in large part due to feeling unsafe from the absolutely rampant transphobia and homophobia. Ohio doesn’t deserve to have trans people in it with the typical attitudes of a lot of the folks there, especially the ones in office.

[brazen willow]

this just in

after the forced migration of trans people of 2021 ohio is 97% trans

[gentle hare]

The sappho flag is my prefered flag! i dislike the official lesbian flag for a lot of reasons, so its alwaya nice to see this one!

[orchid flume]

My mom just called me into her room to tell me if I'm a trans guy she'll never accept it. I'm not? But I still feel pissed.

[hollow ermine]

ew

thats so disgusting my mom has said similar stuff. if u need to talk my dms r open

[orchid flume]

I honestly was afraid she found out about my girlfriend so that’s a bit of a relief but… god.

[hollow ermine]

i can relate to that one

its so awful when u feel like ur parent might b supportive of u cause they say "i love you" so much but the minute u dont suit their aesthetic ur grounded

[orchid flume]

Yep.
Her rampant homophobia is really terrifying.

[hollow ermine]

we love it when they say "its a sin" like im supposed to care 🙄

[orchid flume]

Well me and my girlfriend will see you in hell.

[hollow ermine]

lmao we boutta party it up

[harsh knot]

If I’m goin I’m goin with style

[surreal lion]

guys, did you know it's apparently National Non-Binary Day? 😄

yay for nbs! I am proud

[hollow ermine]

I did not! Happy NB day everyone!

also haven i love ur status thats text i can hear

[harsh knot]

YAY!!!

My power grows on this day >:)

[hollow ermine]

YOU ARE TOO POWERFUL TO BE CONTAINED

[orchid flume]

Yay for me!

[harsh knot]

Yes!!!

[wintry monolith]

Nonbinary gang gang

https://tenor.com/view/stevonee-stevenuniverse-experience-genderqueer-nonbinary-gif-8055060

[surreal lion]

huehuehue

my powers have unlocked

[wintry monolith]

Invisibility debuff day xD

[abstract oak]

i'm cis but as a pansexual, it's funny how confused ppl get when i try to explain why i don't care abt a person's gender identity 😂

[hollow ermine]

Oof as a bi person I’m constantly dealing with “ur so transphobic”

Boy please I like the flag ❤️

[abstract oak]

pls know that if i could, i would have reacted with a bi flag emoji 🙂

[hollow ermine]

Same but I don’t have one lol

[abstract oak]

lol me neither 😅

[hollow ermine]

I’m tired of ppl saying being bi is transphobic because it excludes them. Like bro ur literally saying you don’t see trans people as the gender they identify as

Get outta here with ur transphobic crap fr fr

[abstract oak]

i just don't care as long as you're a chill person that i vibe with. but i'm also like lowkey aro and i suck at dating so 😛

[harsh knot]

Being bi is literally not transphobic

[hollow ermine]

I’m not aro I just am unwantable 😎

[orchid flume]

It’s not transphobic to identify as bi or trans BUT it is transphobic to identify as Pan because you date trans people

I’m a demigirl dating a lovely gal who uses both bi and pan as labels.

[abstract oak]

i identify as pan mainly bc a) a person's gender identity doesn't affect whether or not im attracted to them and b) bc i also include nonbinary ppl in that group. is that more inclusive or less? 🤔 a lot of the terminology in the community has evolved over time so i'm not always sure 🤷‍♂️

[harsh knot]

I think pan is all-inclusive but I do not know, please correct me if I’m wrong!!

[surreal lion]

as far as I'm aware, pansexual is all-inclusive to all gender identities

[harsh knot]

Did I actually get that right?? Am I successfully learning?

[hollow ermine]

I mean as a bi person I’d still date nb people

[chilly river]

Bi meaning is 'two or more' while pan is 'all'. Both are good labels, and inclusive, and really just depend on how you feel

[surreal lion]

I honestly just use them interchangeably

[mental silo]

I think the first definition is closer to what pan is. I identify as bi but I include nonbinary people too

[abstract oak]

yeah i think the language has evolved a lot, much of it became interchangeable

[harsh knot]

Bi is attraction to more than one gender, not limited to just two

[normal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-waving-windy-trans-pride-flag-gif-16799582

[civic shadow]

I mean technically "bi" means two considering a bicycle has two wheels, not three or four. And biweekly means every two weeks. (This is not me saying you're wrong for being bi and liking more than two genders) I'm just a ho and i like everyone lmao

[wintry monolith]

Bi is comfy for me. That's what these labels are about - being comfortable with yourself and knowing there are others out there like you. 💛

It's not about being pedantic and alienating people.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[civic shadow]

For sure! Labels are good because it lets people have name for what they feel.

I'm comfortable not using labels except "crazy bird lady" and "unicorn" lol

[wintry monolith]

Birds > babies, 100% 😆

[civic shadow]

Also I remember the day my friend revealed to me she was bi. We were at a convention and she bought a bisexual button and I was like "yo" and she was like "yeah I've figured out I'm bi" and I was like "yooooo"

[wintry monolith]

Fluffy I can shoosh and cover for naptime whenever, and no paying for college.

I kinda sorta want to get some pride stuff for my work desk/work laptop backpack.

I was thinking either buttons or keychains for the backpack

[civic shadow]

Omg I need to share my button collection

[wintry monolith]

Do!

[civic shadow]

I'll do later Im gonna lay down

[wintry monolith]

Yee. Tag me when you post!

[south stump]

Oh happy late Enby day y’all ^^

[round kelp]

It was my first time celebrating enby day for myself too :’D ❤️

[harsh knot]

Yeeeeee

[civic shadow]

Took this pic a couple weeks ago during pride month lol the gay has descended on chick fil a

[fierce junco]

As it should 😌💅🏾

[wide nova]

ok silly question Whats Enby day?

[civic shadow]

Enby = nb = non binary

Celebrating our non binary friends 😄

[wide nova]

aHHH ok sorry

[civic shadow]

Lol i didnt know it either until someone told me a couple weeks ago

[wide nova]

lol ok at least im not the only one then

[forest fox]

Can you be cishet and non-binary?

Super weird, random question but I've come to the conclusion that you.... can? Maybe? Confusion

[earnest slate]

They are generally regarded as one or the other, but I believe both sexuality and gender can be fluid.

[opaque kelp]

In my experience, being non-binary is mutually exclusive with being cisgender. Other enby people may feel differently, but generally that’s how it is seen. I don’t know about being straight though. Perhaps if someone was a demi girl and only felt attraction to people on the masc end of the spectrum, they might consider themselves straight in that sense.

[forest fox]

Okay! Thank you for your response ^-^ I'm still trying to navigate how I feel about myself at times, experimenting with pronouns and such. I don't have a full understanding of them yetBUT I'm trying my best to learn the ins and outs 🙂

(I'm not straight, but I also wondered about that in terms of non-binary, which is why I added that)

[earnest slate]

Also, labels can help many people have a sense of how they see themselves, but it's also okay to not have a label at all, if that works for you!

[opaque kelp]

however you feel about the lables for yourself is valid

[civic shadow]

Here is my collection so far. I collected most of these in late middle school and early high school then stopped for a couple years.

Peep the pansexual bird lol

[forest fox]

This so sweet. I've definitely had a hard time labelling myself, and whilst my close friends know I'm not straight, I've only told one person what I think I am- I'm going to avoid labelling until I'm comfortable with something! 🙂

[civic shadow]

❤

[forest fox]

oh my god. these are beautiful WHAT A COLLECTION

Do I see rainbow dash?? I sincerely hope that is her

[civic shadow]

Yusss

Back in my brony days 🥲

Tho I'm a simp for fluttershy lmao

[forest fox]

Once a brony, always a brony! My favourites always been RD but I love them all still, funnily enough. I used to buy the human figures but god knows what younger me did to lose them

[civic shadow]

Totally feel lol

[wide nova]

my sister would love these

[wintry monolith]

@civic shadow holy crap! awesome!

Pan birb is adorbs

[civic shadow]

❤❤

[sand surge]

I got this whole set like 2 years ago when I backed the fursona pride pins
(With a guest appearance of my dogs butt)

[wintry monolith]

I'd show off the pronoun pins I got for free at the pride thing we went to, but they have the city name on em

[sinful wharf]

be back in a sec

[frigid vine]

I want pronoun pins for my hat at work, but I also dunno how comfy I feel telling every person I come into contact with that I’m NB xD Let alone if my coworkers would even be a safe space for that. still figuring that out.

[wintry monolith]

God, huge same. I'm really really not wanting to have to mask at femme when for over a year and a half I've been able to exist as just,, me.

Dress code is business casual/business professional, which by default tends to be blouse, slacks, maybe a blazer, and flats or heels for afab

[frigid vine]

That's an entire mood
I can come in with jeans and a t-shirt and it doesn't do much for me xD Girly high pitched voice

My Customer Service Persona™️ has always used a higher pitch, so xD It's default settings at work.

[wintry monolith]

Saaaame. Fuck customer service voice. So much.

I almost kinda wanna look into voice lessons? Both for talking and singing; my midrange singing is complete dogshit, and being able to go lower would be cool.

[frigid vine]

That'd be really cool!
I definitely wanna look into voice lessons too! I found a video recently on Youtube for like exorcises for your voice, been trying to find it with no luck. (I practically live on Youtube so...having trouble 😅 )

[wintry monolith]

You should be able to search your history and try different keywords

[normal ice]

eeeee I love the miss Piggy and the 9 3/4 and the tri force(both) and the ff15 crew and the Jigglypuff

[bitter phoenix]

omg theyre so cute

[twin garden]

Can anyone recommend any cute but more low key pride stuff? I don’t usually make a big deal of pride stuff, and I’m not really one to wear pins or cover things in stickers, but for all I’ve faced and survived to still be here, it might be nice to have something like a magnet or little plushie or maybe small accessory like a necklace or bracelet or something? Mostly interested in bi or trans colors, and bonus points if it involves cute birds, dragons, or dinosaurs.

[bitter phoenix]

^^^ i want lgbt stuff too ;; I'm interested in bi, ace, and genderfluid stuff but i dont know where to buy em ;A;

[iron escarp]

etsy is a really good place to look for that sorta stuff, ive seen all kinds of stuff on there aside from pins and stickers

[calm shell]

im confused by this, how can you be cis and non-binary? don't they contradict each other?

[forest fox]

Since its about gender identities, I would think you can be cis whilst presenting as something outside of the gender binary. I'm not sure, though. For example, I've seen people who acknowledge, and embrace, the fact that they're a female (cisgender) yet use it/its pronouns, or he/him etc

Though I don't know if in that case, theres a term for that? Because there might be a term for that specific scenario anyway

[calm shell]

but pronouns don't equal gender and how you present doesn't equal gender. androgynous and cis would be the correct way of putting it as non-binary isn't about presentation or pronouns, it's about gender identity

[forest fox]

I'm confused as to what you're saying. Non-binary is an umbrella term, and since that person has a different gender identity, one not in the binary, that makes sense to me?

I'm not saying that they particularly claim to be cis, but I'm confused as to how someone who doesnt use their assigned pronouns is in the binary- genuine confusion, btw, I'm not being ignorant i swear

[calm shell]

well, cis means you identify with the gender you were assigned at birth and non-binary means that you identify outside of the gender binary, so how can you both be cis and non-binary? in regards to what I was saying, some people who identify fully as female just prefer they/them or he/him pronouns. you can't tell someone's gender identity based on the pronouns they use because, although for a lot of people they are intertwined, they are not mutually exclusive. if someone uses she/her pronouns it doesn't automatically mean they identify as female.

[forest fox]

So if I said I use he/him pronouns, but I'm female, would I not be considered nb?/gen

[calm shell]

it completely depends how you identify!

if you identify as nb, yes! if you identify as cis, no! they don't mean the same thing if that makes sense

[forest fox]

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me, I really appreciate it 🙂 I'll keep this all in mind!

[calm shell]

no worries! there's a lot to learn and it's all a bit confusing sometimes, it took me a while to wrap my head around, but thanks for taking the time to learn and listen

[orchid flume]

He/him lesbians are cool and valid

[forest fox]

What ._.

[orchid flume]

So there's a subset of lesbians who use he/him pronouns (I actually know a lovely married lesbian couple and both of them use he/him) and terfs and truescum alike always harass he/him lesbians and call them all sorts of awful things. So since afab non binary or cis people using he/him was brought up I felt like giving that reminder

[forest fox]

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about but I don't particularly agree

[orchid flume]

Of course cishet girls can also use he/him

[orchid flume]

Excuse me, you don't believe letting people who identify as lesbian use he/him

[forest fox]

I have tons of lesbian friends who feel invalidated by he/him lesbians. Its 2 in the morning, and my conversation earlier wasn't about this topic, anyway. - I never said i disagree with letting people identify with what they want.

I don't wish to discuss anything with you lol, I'm tired.

[orchid flume]

At the end of the day what pronouns other people choose to go by are not your decision to criticize. Pronouns aren't for YOUR comfort, they're for the comfort of the person being discussed.
I'm a lesbian myself and I think he/him lesbians are cool. I do not go by he/him

[forest fox]

Why tf are you talking to me about this??? I genuinely do not wish to talk about this right now. Its an uncomfortable topic for me. Please leave me alone.

As I just said, I don't care what you go by, and you can go by anything you want to ^¬^

[orchid flume]

You just said you don't think their pronouns are valid?
Either way I'm not gonna fight on this. I don't want to start a fight here.

[forest fox]

I didn't say their pronouns aren't valid, where did I say that? You're the one trying to talk to me about a topic I've said twice that I don't wish to talk about. I literally advocate for peoples pronouns wherever I can. I'm literally experimenting with them myself.

[orchid flume]

I said "he/him lesbians are valid" and you said, "I don't think I agree."

Either way though I'm done with this convo. Please don't ping me again

[forest fox]

You're the one pinging me??????? Righto

Anyway, for everyone here: I'm not invalidating anyones pronouns, and I'm genuinely upset by this convo. I love u all very much.

[orchid flume]

I literally have not pinged you in three messages and you just did it again when I asked you to stop. So I say again please stop

[forest fox]

I might leave the discord

I told you I don't wanna talk abt the topic.

[orchid flume]

I am very much done with this convo,

[mental sonnet]

Hi rohsuh and Alex! Can we move on from this conversation please?

[orchid flume]

Sounds good to me

[forest fox]

I'm just going to leave, I think. I'm really upset because of this. You win.

[orchid flume]

I'm sorry...

[wide nova]

https://www.etsy.com/market/bi_pride love the merch

[twin garden]

There wasn't a lot on etsy that really excited me, but these seriously have a particular energy to them: https://www.etsy.com/listing/809109186/lgbtq-pride-flag-goose-stickers?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=pride&ref=sr_gallery-1-46&organic_search_click=1&bes=1

I kinda want to get some and mod them with a little speaker and stuff for a dedicated honk button.

[civic shadow]

Omg I love thoooose

[wide nova]

so cute

[civic shadow]

Legit bookmarked the page and I'm getting a million

[wintry monolith]

https://lgballt.tumblr.com/post/656505465120931840/are-you-sad-that-june-is-over-and-you-dont-have

[gloomy tendon]

me rn at work

[orchid flume]

Sometimes I just spend way too much time wondering if Cousin It uses it/its pronouns does that mean It is always using pronouns when referring to It, or are we never using pronouns to refer to It.

[civic shadow]

[harsh knot]

Found this and yesss, purble best color

[civic shadow]

Yaaaas

[wintry monolith]

💜

[earnest slate]

Can I add a gay hand in there? We have a violet stripe does that count???

[civic shadow]

Gay hand lmao

[harsh knot]

Yes

[orchid flume]

I wanna tell everyone how much I love my partner. She's the greatest girl in the world

[harsh knot]

Aw yay, good for you and your partner!

[earnest slate]

She's very lucky she has someone like you to love her for her ❤️

[orchid flume]

Nothing like signing up for a website and seeing

[civic shadow]

I love when they include more than two options 🙏

[normal ice]

https://tenor.com/view/pride-pride-month-lgbt-lgbtq-gay-gif-17558584

[mellow sand]

I love it when they have. "Other please specify".

[orchid flume]

So my partner and I have a sacred agreement to never watch Owl House without each other, and she's been out of town for the week so we haven't been able to watch, and last night I dreamed I watched it without her

[humble tusk]

the dream betrayal

[mellow sand]

Me and my girlfriend have one of us stream the episode to the other so we can watch together.

[harsh knot]

that's what i do with my bf

[orchid flume]

All of us 🤝 Watching TOH with our partners

[twin garden]

Lol! I very much did The Owl House alone as I’m single again. I watched a season or two of She-ra with my ex though. It’s nice to have more shows like that these days. It would have been considered super scandalous when I was little. And finally some farming sims and RPGs and all letting you marry whoever you like too! Progress!

[orchid flume]

I'm just remembering the time I learned a She-ra server I helped moderate was full of people who were super gatekeepy about being lgbt so I left.

[twin garden]

I think one of my most memorable experiences with the show was watching one of the later seasons after my ex and I had broken up, and where I was left in this place of wondering if I was really bi or just straight and somehow confusing emotional attraction with wanting to date someone. Then they had the scene where Scorpia was singing in the club and it was just like ‘Wow, okay, uh, definitely not completely straight! Not right now!’

[orchid flume]

I accidentally revealed I was a flaming lesbian because I can't not be hella attracted to Scorpia at all times

Me: "I wanna marry a girl just like scorpia."
My sister: "A girl?"
Me: "Or boy..."

[twin garden]

And was it just me, or (spoilers for anyone who hasn't watched the whole series) ||did Bow and Glimmer literally feel like a token het couple? I mean, Mermista and Sea Hawk was pretty obvious, but Bow and Glimmer just seemed like close friends and little else to me?||

[orchid flume]

100% agree. If anything they felt more like a couple in episode 1 than they did when they actually got together

[civic shadow]

Hecking MOOD

[glad bolt]

For those who want to watch Netflix together with their partner but can't because of distance/lockdown/etc. I really recommend Teleparty!! It's a Chrome addon and it also works with Hulu, HBO and Disney+

https://www.teleparty.com/ (hope it's okay to share the link)

I've been using it since it was only Netflix Party in August 2020 in lockdown and it's never failed me

[orchid flume]

They confirmed they won’t let He-man be gay in the new series but they said there will be a wlw couple.

That kinda annoys me. I’m a lesbian, but gay guys need rep way more. We have Owl House, She-ra, Adventure Time, and a ton of other shows.

Besides She-ra is literally He-man for girls (this was the 80’s when it was made) I wouldn’t be happy if in the She-ra reboot they said, “we’ll just make a side mlm couple canon because Adora had a boyfriend in the OG."

Also Adam is like the gay icon. So not making him gay is

[civic shadow]

And in a lot of the gay men rep they end up killing one off

For some reason

[iron escarp]

there's a reason why i'm really attached to dorian and thats part of the reason why, there isnt really a lot of mlm relationships out there that arent either: overly sexualized or incredibly tragic(cheating, death, that sorta stuff)

like why cant gay relationships have representation generally unless they're tragic or barely mentioned? like the bar is basically on the floor

i mean i was a little weary of disney's loki, even though he was announced genderfluid and bi, but i thought that since we had a female director that i believe was als bi, and tom hiddleston actually being like a co-director and thus having agency, it would be different

but his bisexuality was basically a throwaway line and his (gender)fluidity was never shown

and it was just so sad

[iron escarp]

spoilers for the most recent episode(7) of the owl house!

them..

the fact that the owl house has been adding so much representation despite the internal pushback disney is probably giving them warms my heart

[wintry monolith]

The "bury your gays" trope. :<

[civic shadow]

So sad

[orchid flume]

It's awful

[harsh knot]

i despise that trope

[iron escarp]

its the worst

[flat scaffold]

drinks up the non-binary rep juice

[iron escarp]

yeah!

the fact their voice actor is also nonbinary really makes me happy

[orchid flume]

Woo!

[twin vortex]

Gay rights<3

[orchid flume]

When someone asks me my pronouns

[iron escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/fez-cool-matt-smith-doctor-who-gif-5797415

all i could think of seeing this, i am only slightly sorry

[orchid flume]

My partner and I are about to watch Owl House

[iron escarp]

awh its a really great episode! have fun!

[cosmic basin]

Omg wait there's new Owl House episodes???!?!!!?

[orchid flume]

I've only known Raine for five minutes but I love them dearly.

[opaque kelp]

My datemate is the cutest

[orchid flume]

Can I scream about the new Owl House episode to anyone?

[harsh knot]

Yes even though I’ve yet to watch it

[orchid flume]

No... this episode can't be spoiled. I'm normally someone who doesn't care about spoilers but this was the best episode yet.

All I can say is, Eda is the best.

[earnest slate]

||They all die at the end||

[harsh knot]

D:

[earnest slate]

I'm joking lol

I normally say that to my brother when he tells me not to spoil something I watched and he hasn't yet XDD

[harsh knot]

Also understandable, I just don’t really care about being spoiled

[iron escarp]

yeah! i have so many thoughts abt it

[orchid flume]

Wanna chat in the DM’s so we won’t spoil anything or make this chat look like an article from the SCP foundation?

[iron escarp]

yeah sure! ahaha

[civic shadow]

So uh...DaBaby huh? Yikes

Really just hope he actually educates himself on HIV/AIDS and knows that not only members of the LGBTQ+ community get or have AIDS 🙏

[earnest slate]

Sorry @civic shadow ~ A bit too explicit on the language, had to remove the photo.

[civic shadow]

Thought it was okay since it was censored and spoiled but I get it. No worries!

[gentle hare]

i had to look up eho this was (assumed it was a streamer lolol) but y i k e s

[civic shadow]

Yeah def not epic

[umbral sigil]

[tropic plank]

👀

[harsh knot]

Thas a no from me as well

[iron escarp]

I don't think thats something that should have neccesarily been posted here? This is supposed to be a wholesome server

[harsh knot]

I agree, we should also probably try to ignore it as well

[wintry monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802761856800260147/870025870901936148/RDT_20210720_1904476704530974748701377.jpg?width=310&height=676

[twin garden]

Discussed with my ex since we’re still friends. We decided that when we were dating she was the eye brow raiser and I was the arm crosser. 🤣

[fast narwhal]

hi are there any owl house fans on this server

[iron badger]

From what series is the first couple? ducks

[mellow sand]

Hello!

[mellow sand]

Actually me and my girlfriend just watched the new Owl House episode. ||We got a happy reminder of the time I asked her out. Like it felt a lot lot like that time. Minus the house demon.||

[fast narwhal]

Thats so cute!! I just think the new episode was so wild

[iron escarp]

im just watching it right now

i wanted to wait but i almost got spoiled multiple times

[mellow sand]

Enjoy. There is a reason we are talking a lot about it.

[iron escarp]

it was really good

i just finished it

[mellow sand]

Yes!!!

[orchid flume]

Me waking up: “What a lovely morning time to see what’s on YouTube” (OWL HOUSE SPOILERS) “god dammit”

My girlfriend said we’ll watch tomorrow!

[iron escarp]

that was basically my experience except on tiktok with no spoiler warnings

honestly how hard is it to put a spoiler warning on a video at all

[lusty comet]

IKR like I saw the one guy uh... forget his name but the one with the owl mask, in the emperors coven, I saw him like everywhere and the reveal on what he looked like was pretty much ruined 😔

[lost hound]

OMG! when was this added?!?! I'm happy this is here!!!

Any of u peeps a BL series fan?
Watches and/or reads them??

[hidden inlet]

Yasssss

[lost hound]

OMG!!! HOLAAA!!

Okay, so recently... I have been so in love with fhis series called, THE BEST STORY...

I highly recommend y'all give it a watch

[hidden inlet]

Definitely message me about it!!!

[lost hound]

OOOOHHH!!! I'LL SEND U THE LINK UwU

This series is so freaking relatable

It talks about high school crushes!!!!

And i can so relate... A 100%
And the OST.... BOOTIFUL✨✨✨

[ruby garnet]

Hiya! Me I've drawn a tiny bit of fanart for a lumity Zine!

[fast narwhal]

That’s so cool!!

[orchid flume]

My partner introduced me to her friend group, and said don't reveal we're dating quite yet so I'm like, "yeah I bought her a switch... as gal pals do."

[twin garden]

This sounds like one of those 'tell us you're dating without telling us you're dating' type things. Hope it went over okay?

[paper cobalt]

Historians would say they were good friends

[cosmic quarry]

they're from She-ra and the Princesses of Power

[iron badger]

Thank you. beams

[hidden inlet]

don't forget luz and amity from the owl house

[weary snow]

OMG I'm still not over the last episode

[hidden inlet]

“DO YOU WANNA GO OUT WITH ME?!”
“No, I was so ready!”
“I’m sorry. I’m sorry! You can say it!”
"amity blight, will you go out with me-"
"YES"

and then the whole TOH community exploded with joy

[weary snow]

The fact that we've been able to see such a beautiful, direct scene (as non subtle hints or anything) and it's been broadcasted on tv gives me so much live

[junior falcon]

Just wanted to say that my grandmother and her sister came to my dad's birthday party and they are pretty progressive and respectful

Also remember to take binder breaks if your chest is uncomfortable or you feel dizzy or take it off if you are in possible situations to do that

[hallow loom]

That's always a good reminder! I have to set myself reminders on my phone to do that (early on when I was binding I once accidentally wore it for like 12 hours straight and let me tell you, that's a very bad idea 😅 )

(and also yay! That's awesome!)

[junior falcon]

Yeah I messed up my left ribcage with an alliexpress binder in my baby trans years and I can't wear binder for long now

Also my back really hurts when using a binder hah

[torpid estuary]

@hidden inlet WHAT?! bursts into happy tears Spoilers for me, but idc!!!

@junior falcon oh hun... It didn't fit right?

[hidden inlet]

so sorry my bad

[junior falcon]

It was the closing on the side one and it was too tight

So only my left side is messed up heh

[torpid estuary]

@junior falcon oof, that sucks.

@hidden inlet no no! I'm super happy and like I said, I don't care.

[junior falcon]

I got mullet btw gotta have more drastic one in a month for my 18th birthday yay

I feel like a powerful gay because of it

[torpid estuary]

@junior falcon Stronk.

[junior falcon]

Some of my picrew collection

[civic shadow]

When your mom constantly misgenders your sister's roommate even after hearing your sister refer to them as "them" and not "he"

Thankfully never to their face but still super annoying that she puts no effort into correcting herself.

[orchid flume]

Ugh...

[torpid estuary]

@civic shadow I've started correcting mine when she does it to my friend who:s they/them.

[civic shadow]

It's really not worth it. She's super set in her ways and makes an effort to always say how its wrong and all that.

[umbral sigil]

x2

[frigid vine]

I used to always correct my Mother but now that I don’t live with her, I realize how absolutely exhausting it is. I was born. I didn’t sign up to remother my own mother. If she wants to be an absolute butt and then wonder why she has no friends, Imma let her.

[orchid flume]

I didn't realize it was national girlfriends day til after my girlfriend was asleep. So many opportunities to be a gay dork ruined.

[pallid verge]

could always be a day late!

[rigid haven]

Good morning all! ^^ So im bi and have never actually chosen a same gender partner. But from who ive met im torn between Rafael/Pablo or Alice/Eva. Who are you all choosing? ^^

[violet dome]

Hey, just a reminder that any discussion of in-alpha content based on your experiences with it should stay in #🐣alpha-general-chat for the time being!

[violet dome]

Just to clarify- you can discuss romance options, just not based on info from playing the alpha!

[rigid haven]

Oh I wasn't gonna go into detail. No worries

[torpid estuary]

@hidden inlet okay, I caught up yesterday til episode five (that's all Disney+ has) and did anyone else catch Amity's "Get away from MY Luz?" happy screaming

[hidden inlet]

what episode?

[unborn raft]

Do you guys know of any good shows with Ace representation?

[hidden inlet]

bojack horseman? there is this character named Todd he comes out as ace later on in probably season 3 if i remember correctly

[unborn raft]

Yeah, already seen that one.

[dull citrus]

I'm so happy you feel comfortable with pursuing a same gender partner in the game! Video games really helped me come out of my shell with that. ❤️
I'm most interested in Zarah (my first girl crush actually wore hijab so maybe I just have a thing for modesty and religious devotion?), Yuri, and Macy (who kinda looks like my first girlfriend 😅).

[unborn raft]

No, I'm sex-indifferent, so wouldn't bother me. Thanks for the suggestion, will check it out!

[violet dome]

Hey, just so you're aware, we'd like to keep this server friendly for all ages, so I'm going to delete your post here. In the future, a recommendation like that would be best given through a direct message!

[orchid flume]

Tiktok arguing is exhausting.

Some random user: "Terf is a slur and only misogynists' use it."
Me: "The only people who say that are terfs themselves."
The user from before: "Says the person who will cry if they get misgendered."

I don't get it, and also no I wouldn't?
Like I'm not a very dysphoric enby. And while I prefer if you stay within my pronouns specified trying to piss me off by misgendering me is pathetic.

[waxen hare]

terf is absolutely not a slur

u cant call urself an acronym and be offended when someone calls u that acronym

[waxen hare]

i have No Time for terfs

[orchid flume]

Like I'm a lesbian, I have a lovely girlfriend.

And I don't see how, "lol U hate being misgendered" is a valid argument. Like wut?

[waxen hare]

they just cant take bein called out for hatin trans people so they default to "oh well!!.. uh.. ur a misogynist!!!!"

[orchid flume]

They're now arguing since I identify as non binary I hate women. Like dude... REALLY?

I responded with, "I sincerely apologize for calling you a terf I realize now I had the wrong term. You're actually a FART." (Feminist appropriating radical transphobe.)

[waxen hare]

UR A FART... I LOVE THAT

the resurgence of terfs in lgbtq+ spaces rly raises my hackles

[mental silo]

Incredible acronym I want to see more terfs being called farts

[orchid flume]

I actually way prefer the term FART but it's less known

[waxen hare]

its alot more plain about what they rly are

like they can put whatever sheen they want on it but they rly just hate trans people

[orchid flume]

Exactly

Y'all have no idea how many times I've been told I'll never be a real woman by terfs.
Like I man be non-binary, but I'm afab, present feminine, and primarily use she/her. You're shooting yourself in the foot by saying that

[mental silo]

Terfs just want to invalidate everyone against them, it's ridiculous. Not even sure what they're trying to fight for anymore

[orchid flume]

Yep!

[orchid flume]

I love having to explain why I'm valid for not wanting to be called trans because the term makes me uncomfy for the umpteenth time.

[untold viper]

Fuck terfs, all my homies hate terfs.

[gloomy tendon]

I think I'm going to cry

[civic shadow]

What's Terf stand for?

[violet dome]

Keep the language friendly for all ages, please!

[mental silo]

Trans exclusionary radical feminist

[civic shadow]

what the hell does that mean

[simple birch]

basically they hate trans people under the guise of feminism

[civic shadow]

well thats stupid

[upper verge]

it is stupid!

it's an ideology that basically is like, people are oppressed based on what's between their legs, not how they look to the world, so trans women can never be women (they don't care as much about trans men :'D they're vaguely thought of of lost lesbian sisters, and i figure we enbies get discriminated against depending on how they think we look at any given moment :'D

[torpid estuary]

I'll throw hands for my baby trans, ENBY, and other baby community members. I'm an old Ace and super protective of the community babies, so much so that a Norse community member has given me the title of Shield Maiden. I can't stand Terfs in particular and bigots in general.

[upper verge]

I'm an enby who's been cautiously out since 2008, before i even knew there were other enbies in the world i swear to god, and aggressively out since 2013, my medical transition has been great and I also stand for no bs. (ALSO AN ACE, ACE HIGH FIVES @torpid estuary )

[pure vessel]

heck yeah its always great to see other aces out there in the world!

[torpid estuary]

@upper verge ✋

I don't quite grasp romance, so I haven't decided whom, if anyone, to romance. I just mostly think they're adorable and want friendships with all of them. Kind of like my SDV run.

[upper verge]

I too want to friendship everybody!!! everybody seems so interesting!!! but i'm like gray-aro but mostly fictional characters break through that barrier, and when I saw Yuri, i was like -- oh, yes, that one XD

[torpid estuary]

@upper verge I wonder if you can have a polycule...

But like...friends?

[upper verge]

@torpid estuary you totally can! it might be difficult, cause it's difficult to even find a polycule where everyone's allosexual! but if you work at it i bet you can find a queer platonic polycule!!!

[torpid estuary]

@upper verge might be an interesting experiment

[upper verge]

Always worthwhile!!!

[orchid flume]

I'm taking a brief break from social media since while arguing with terfs is exhausting, arguing with other members of the LGBT+ community is even more so.
I get called transphobic on occasion cause I'm very clear that I am non-binary but not trans.

My reasoning for why I'm not trans is I'm afab, present feminine, and presenting masculine makes me uncomfortable. I still prefer gender neutral terminology, and being called she/her too often makes me uncomfortable, but I don't thing the trans label fits my experience at all.

[patent magnet]

I'm bi and I sort of get where you're coming from- sometimes people of my gender get realllllllly put off when they find out I'm bi, not gay. (I don't actually date opposite gender ppl for various reasons I'm not going to discuss, but the attraction is there, though slight)

The thing is, sometimes you just have to give them a big f u. You're non binary. That's who you are, and no one gets to tell you you're not "LGBT enough" to be a part of lgbt social media

That said, I'm all for taking a break from social media too. I only use Instagram regularly tbh, and only because I'm an artist and I freaking have to

[orchid flume]

Same. I just use my twitter to post art and my tiktok to give my partner comments both cause they deserve the praise, and it helps boost them in the algorithm

[umbral sigil]

I'm not LGBTQ+ but even I understand it's not okay to impose your own labels and expectations on others. That's not something one person or group just gets to decide. That's frustrating, I'm sorry you're going through that Alex

[patent magnet]

Yeah- Alex, if you want to take a break, do it for you not because some idiots can't keep their mouths shut

[orchid flume]

Thank you!

[harsh knot]

Having to argue with people from your own community is the worst, and I’m sorry you’ve been dealing with that. It’s good that you’re taking a break, and take as much time as you need

[mellow sand]

Yeah. You need a break from that Alex. Hopefully you can find more places like here where Enbyphobic stuff isn't tolerated.

[iron escarp]

honestly the fact that enough people still insist on pushing labels onto other people, having no ideas of their experiences with sexuality/gender or any of the reasons why people might choose not to identify with certain labels that are seen as umbrella terms especially

personally i dont mind being called trans but i'd still prefer to be recognised as non-binary over just being trans alone, because so many people view trans as not an umbrella term, but as only the binary transition

so i completely understand where you're coming from based on the stories you've told on here

taking a break from these people when you need to is important, especially when it comes to being exhausted from arguing with other lgbtq+ members

because when people of your own community let you down like that and refuse to be respectful or reasonable, it hurts most

[torpid estuary]

@orchid flume if you say you aren't trans, then you aren't, period. End of. I don't know why people always have to try to force each other into neat little boxes. As if that's anyone's business other than the person involved. You know who you are and who you are is valid. 💜

[arctic pecan]

I get where you are coming from. Personally I don't get along with people in the LGBT also cuz they tell me I am "not gay enough" (cuz I think I missed that being gay is how you look and what you do for some reason) so I prefer hanging with hetero people. Oddly the heteros I hang with never bothered me with that. I really dont understand people sometimes... Why is a sexuality supposed to be a personality or presentation?

[worthy spire]

there's a big problem with biphobia in the queer community, and it's very unfortunate

odd for people to have some set idea of what being part of a marginalised community means. we shouldn't be gatekeeping people whatsoever

[hidden inlet]

Yeah, I completely resonate with this. I've had people tell me that I'm genderfluid because I don't really care what people refer to me as (though I'm sure that's not what fluidity even is) as well as being told that I'm bi or asexual. It's very hard for me to label myself and also have people explicitly tell me what my identity is in relation to what little they do know about me. Not sure how to word that.. but it's just always made me curious as to why knowing who I date or go to the next step with is people's business to discuss/put a label on.

In relation to my gender identity, there isn't really a gender when it comes to signing unless you're trying to describe someone (you just point most of the time and I always default to signing 'person' unless I know their gender identity), so it's never personally bothered me to be called things like "sir" "dude" etc. because I don't even hear them in the first place.

[iron escarp]

honestly this

some people even make you feel guilty when you dont disclose your identity straight away, even when they're strangers

like what buisness does anyone have knowing my sexuality if i dont disclose it to them personally

im asexual and i dont like to make it be a shameful thing to hide away, but other people have kind of forced me not to be open with it because im immediately scrutanized for it? like why do strangers feel so strongly about sharing opinions about how i identify and how its bad or horrible especially

[orchid flume]

Exactly

[iron escarp]

cant they honestly just learn to shut up, say something nice or stay neutral and out of my buisness

also when it comes to gender, ive had a decent amount of people tell me i am a man because i closely identify with transmasc as a label for my gender

that im just a man in denial for like feminism reasons or something? even though the reason i dont like to identify as a man is related to my neurodivergent experience of the world

i mean i'd prefer to legally identify as a man over a woman just because i dont even know if i can change my birth certificate or anything to be gender neutral

because i have dysphoria or at the very least some sort of body dysmophia