🌈lgbtq

[blissful granite]

There's a lesbian deadline. All applications have to be in by... looks at deadline well crap.

[wicked jungle]

well, another year, another try at being lesbian

[fallow whale]

Easier when it's like a week/month because of timezones I think

Most of the time I won't realise it's a special day lol

[blissful granite]

it took me about 8 months to get a gay card.

they've updated the application process in the past 20 years though.

[wicked jungle]

they sure have

still took me 3 years the first time of application

but now? just a swifty chefs kiss 5,5 months

[rocky merlin]

I've seen untie/unty here and there🍷

[wintry monolith]

I've seen auncle before

[olive flame]

Which pronunciation of aunt does that use?

[wintry monolith]

Awn-cle

[brazen willow]

I love that term

[hidden inlet]

Happy Lesbian Visibility Day! 👩‍❤️‍👩

[fallow whale]

I celebrated by playing kingdom hearts 2 and eating the pork buns my gf made

[wicked jungle]

oh is april 27th Lesbian Visibility day or is it just finally the timezoneof lesbian visibility day for everybody 👀

[wicked jungle]

that sounds so beautiful 🧡

[fallow whale]

Thx

[chrome cedar]

[wicked jungle]

lesbian meteorite ?

[chrome cedar]

I think it's dog paws handing you a heart

[wicked jungle]

oh thats adorable

sorry i'm blind 😂

[chrome cedar]

no worries 😂

[night kestrel]

I love it both ways

[mellow sand]

Pretty much

[rocky relic]

I only sort of think of it as a slur when people use cis when what they meant was cishet.

[pure oxide]

cishet is also not a slur

[rocky relic]

Wasn’t saying it’s a slur. I just meant they use cis with the definition of cishet

[wicked jungle]

do you mean how they mean that cis can only be cis and straight and not cis and gay for example?

[rocky relic]

I think? So like, “you aren’t part of the lgbt community, you’re* a cis”.

[wicked jungle]

ohh

"a cis" yeah ok that's kinda slur-y like "a trans"

oh my sweet davy jones, people overcomplicate life so muchhhhhhhhhh

inclusion is about inclusion, you include everybody and treat them as equals ffs

EASY AS THAT

[chrome cedar]

Wish it was that easy, Marmy, but I agree

[wicked jungle]

i know i know, but they make it always sound like our begging for equality is about putting cis and straight people down
just.. google what equality even means 😭

people who feel comfortable in their gender are not erased, straight people arent either, but goodness, i just wanna exist and not be invalided for my whole existence

[chrome cedar]

Agreed, Marmy! I have quite a few cishet friends, who are freaking amazing

I am cis myself

And it's all valid equally

[wicked jungle]

yes exactly ;-;

[chrome cedar]

[wicked jungle]

this all just makes me cry

[chrome cedar]

I get the frustration tho

[wicked jungle]

:huggle: back even if i dont have nitro

[chrome cedar]

🫂

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-hug-monsters-inc-sully-warmhug-gif-10592083

hugs are nice

[chrome cedar]

cis, trans, nb, straight, gay, bi, ace and everything, all is valid and perfectly fine and equally amazing

[wicked jungle]

as long as you arent putting someone else down or hurting anybody you're just as valid and deserve the same respect as everybody - easy as that

may the time of all-acceptance come soon

[fallow whale]

Except me lol

[chrome cedar]

You're valid, too

[wicked jungle]

you're valid

[humble tusk]

we're all valid

[fallow whale]

When I feel like it maybe lol

[fallow whale]

Thx

[fallow whale]

Thx

[dry swift]

Gotta love when people ask for straight pride when they're not illegal in the majority of the world's countries

[wicked jungle]

yep, the misunderstanding that lgbt's agenda is to erase them is just stupid

[fallow whale]

Secret one country where straight people are illegal

[dry swift]

That's not a secret country, it's a sandbank off of the coast of Australia and is a sovereign nation

[wicked jungle]

attention satire: "one day the cishet catholics will have to sit in the back of the bus" honestly if you prefer the back of the bus margaret, that's cool with me, it's actually deemed "cool" to sit back there

[dry swift]

They have a sign and everything

[fallow whale]

Hey I'm already in Australia so at least I'm close

[pearl sleet]

EVERYONE IS EQUAL

[dry swift]

Not joking, either, it genuinely exists XD

[chrome cedar]

I just wish for mutual understanding and acceptance. Everyone should be able to be proud of who they are

[rocky relic]

New Zealand?

[fallow whale]

Well except for nazis and co. lol

[dry swift]

Or at the very least, the Gay Kingdom exists. No idea about the legality of straights, though

[wicked jungle]

be proud, be happy and be accepted

[dry swift]

New Zealand is unfortunately not a sandbank.

[chrome cedar]

Well yeah. This is not about Nazis or murderers or stuff

[wicked jungle]

the legality of straights sounds like such a dramatic book title

[pearl sleet]

This!!
We are talking about gender identities and sexualities and the like

[rocky relic]

Sounds like a geometry book title

[fallow whale]

Uh I got that already.

[pearl sleet]

Then why include Nazis and co

[rocky relic]

Also. Why are you awake then? why am I awake

[fallow whale]

1. I said that because they initially said "everyone" and I'm very particular with my words
2. Shariza already clarified this so I don't know why you're on my back about it

[pearl sleet]

dropping the topic, geometry: teaching kids that not all lines are straight and its okay to be that way too

[fallow whale]

Smooth

[proper knot]

Preach

[wicked jungle]

well for me everyone counts as these lads, everybody else is just - sorry but no

[proper knot]

Also, the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom has dissolved @dry swift

It dissolved in November 2017

[fallow whale]

Too much tv

[dry swift]

🥲

[proper knot]

Indeed

Least we still have Lesbos

[fallow whale]

Sad no transbos

[wicked jungle]

idk about it being taught it geometry but definitively with mathematical functions (if that's the correct name for it)

[simple birch]

there's transylvania though

[fallow whale]

Not sure what the laws would be like

Also very far away

Sad I chipped some nail polish

Worst colour to chip as well

[rocky relic]

Travel ban though because of covid

[fallow whale]

Still awake huh

[pearl sleet]

go bed

all of u

[fallow whale]

Why lol

[pearl sleet]

if its late for u

[fallow whale]

Only approaching 4am

Also I don't want tomorrow to come

[rocky relic]

Queensland i see

[clever fog]

tomorrow will come regardless, but you'll feel better about it if you sleep

[fallow whale]

Yeah brissie

[fallow whale]

Got a weighty assessment piece to do that's driving me nuts

[rocky relic]

https://tenor.com/view/tekashi-69-fade-out-peace-gif-15141419

[fallow whale]

Weighty as in its worth a lot

[dark patio]

Even if you don't sleep, you should lay down and rest. being completely exhausted won't help you

[fallow whale]

How can a 1k word assignment be worth 40%

[fallow whale]

My brains too alarmed lol

[dark patio]

Even if you don't sleep, if you just lay down and let your body rest, even if you're still awake, it can help.

[fallow whale]

Been a sucky week

[clever fog]

nonetheless, elsa's right - first of all, laying in bed will help even if you can't sleep at all

and secondly, being contrary in a public discord server doesn't help anyone, neither you nor me

we're trying to help :C

[fallow whale]

Sorry?

[clever fog]

believe me, i get it, i'm just concerned because i HAVE been there

one way or another, i'd listen to a mod in this instance lol, tho you do you

[pure oxide]

I mean, not even just it being from a mod, but even my therapist told me, when I was having nasty bouts of insomnia

Even if you can't sleep.. literally just laying down horizontal and putting your screens away for a few hours will help you to rest.

[pearl sleet]

sometimes when i get tired in the mornings i rest my eyes for a little bit and i feel a whole lot better

i used to rest on the bus as well before school when i was in that

[fallow whale]

I wasn't intending to be a contrarian

[pure oxide]

It's what mountain climbers do. As they get higher up in the mountains, it's actually very difficult to -actually- sleep, so instead of sleeping for the night they stop and they lay down and they rest their bodies and minds for 6-8 hours

'sall good

[clever fog]

yeah, don't worry about it, i didn't mean to be hurtful about it - i'm just worried!

[dark patio]

It's okay, just get some rest, even if it's not sleep. We don't want to see you adding unnecessary stress on top of yourself.

[fallow whale]

Worrying is my specialty

Even when I'm not worried I do tend to have a bad habit of staying up late

[pearl sleet]

time for therapy, then work

cya everyone

[fallow whale]

Oh no it's 4

[pure oxide]

I mean, I didn't get to sleep till nearly 6 am last night

so I'm not judging you. insomnia sucks. extenuating circumstances suck.

[fallow whale]

So I'm doing good 😎

[pure oxide]

But my recommendation is, truly, put down your phone/electronic devices, and just lay in bed

It sounds boring, and frustrating, but just lie in bed for at least a couple hours.

[fallow whale]

I don't suffer from insomnia, I'm actually really good at falling asleep. My problem is being stubborn and not letting myself go to bed

[wintry monolith]

Oof, insomnia gang. If I get up to use the bathroom or whatever in the night it's very rare to be able to go back to sleep right after

I'll end up awake for a couple hours

[wicked jungle]

is there a "only motivated/inspired" at night gang too?

cause idk if i got insomnia but i know that the night is the only time i can truly get sh't done

[wintry monolith]

Fuck
https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1387131922577387523

Ari Drennen (@AriDrennen)

🚨The Texas Senate just approved SB1646. It bans gender affirming healthcare and removes trans youth from the homes of loving, supportive parents. Every company with business in Texas must make clear that they oppose this barbarous attempt to destroy a generation of trans people

Retweets

1825

Likes

2954

Twitter · Apr 27, 2021, 7:49 PM

[surreal lion]

god dammit

[pearl sleet]

Texas has always been full of shitty folk

No shock from me
Just rage

idk why its so hard to just let everyone be themselves and act like we are all human beings who deserve everything cishets have

[prisma wing]

Im incredibly angry... But agreed 0 shock

[wicked jungle]

semi-positive news tho
thanks @ whoever mentioned transylvania yesterday i found this news article from january? at least somewhere there's care and repercussions for equal human rights?
https://transylvanianow.com/romania-fined-for-not-respecting-transgender-rights/

[pearl sleet]

AAAAA

yay

that makes me happy

[charred needle]

One of my great friends is starting T and I'm so so happy for them

[mellow sand]

Awesome!!!

[charred needle]

its me

[wintry monolith]

Yessss

[wicked jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/n0esqj/swedish_gender_positivity_on_tv_damer_ladies/ ? ;w;

also:

Ohio to allow transgender people to change birth certificate gender
Tennessee will soon be the only state that does not permit transgender people to make such changes.
what is going on in Tennessee 👀

[dark patio]

Transphobia

[hidden inlet]

Oh cool. Now the Americans can bully Tennessee.

[pure oxide]

Tennessee gets plenty of bullying already

[dark patio]

I mean we already do

[wicked jungle]

more reasons to bully them?

[pure oxide]

catch more flies with honey than with vinegar

[dark patio]

I also bully new jersey it that’s unrelated

[hidden inlet]

"Y'all think you're quirky with your fucking 'bIrTh GeNdEr' bih stfu u ugly <3"

[wicked jungle]

i always thought texas was getting bullied the most

[dark patio]

Texas also gets bullied

to be fair, almost every state gets some kind of bullying

[wicked jungle]

all the states get bullied somewhere

yeah

[dark patio]

But you know who really needs bullying?

[wicked jungle]

no?

tennessee?

[pure oxide]

me

[dark patio]

New York City. Acting like they’re all that counts in New York.

[wicked jungle]

👀

[dark patio]

Acting like the Hudson Valley is upstate New York

[hidden inlet]

Taxes gets bullied internationally, but I think Tennessee gets it worse, because if you ask anyone outside the US we'd just be like "what's Tennessee".

At least Texas gets acknowledged.

Did I really just type out taxes.

[dark patio]

Fuck you, New York City

And fuck New Jersey for WANTING to be New York City

[pure oxide]

I mean, i'm pretty sure the IRS is actually headquarted in Texas

[wicked jungle]

I-

[pure oxide]

so i mean

[wicked jungle]

texas is taxes 🤔

[pure oxide]

Yes

[wicked jungle]

my brain

[hidden inlet]

Honestly, fuck tourists for thinking all of the Netherlands is either Hobbitville or Amsterdam.

I'm still salty.

[wicked jungle]

every time someone mentions New York i have the concrete jungle song screaming in my head

[dark patio]

New York is not the city but that’s all people seem to care about

[wicked jungle]

i really wanna see the Netherlands but everybody who visits there (from at least germany) does so for the illegal goods and i aint into that and find that kinda disrespectful

[hidden inlet]

So many times I chat with people online, I tell 'em I'm Dutch and they assume I'm a 6.5 feet tall drug addict farmer.

[wicked jungle]

yeah wth

[hidden inlet]

Which is bullshit because I don't own a farm.

kek

No, but I don't do drugs either.

[wicked jungle]

but you are 6.5ft tall?

[hidden inlet]

6'3.

[wicked jungle]

close enough 😂

[hidden inlet]

Would wanna try out brownies tho, but only with someone I trust nearby and from biological product.

[wicked jungle]

assumptions are often too funny, but honestly the whole farmer stuff with netherlands from tulips to grass now is too much

[hidden inlet]

Downside of regulating weed is that it's not subject to the same industry fuckery as the tobacco industry, in that most of it's hardly weed anymore.

...But at least we're allowed to have a handful of our own weedplants, so that's pretty dope. '3'

I mean, we do tend to pride ourselves on farmers. XD That and we did have a bit of a kick of "Oooh, look at how liberal we are with our drugs and sex, ain't that wild? Don't y'all want to find out for yourselves?"

[wicked jungle]

yeah but netherlands is more than that

[hidden inlet]

Even our literature is just 95% about either WWII or sex.

[wicked jungle]

dang, being so much into ww2 literature sounds kinda depressing 👀

[hidden inlet]

I mean, we are a lot more than that. I think we're the first country to legalize gay marriage.

[wicked jungle]

i already get sad reading switzlerland's politic literature alla wilhelm tell but ww2 literature is on a whole different medium

that may be true

[hidden inlet]

Second to Belgium in legalizing gay adoption, anyway.

[wicked jungle]

i heard somewhere that even sweden struggled with their lgbt rights in recent years

[hidden inlet]

Well, same-sex, I mean.

[wicked jungle]

yes

[hidden inlet]

Or same... gender?

x_x

[wicked jungle]

gay is okay

[hidden inlet]

Yeah, but I wanna be right. :/

Eh, I'll stick to same-gender.

[wicked jungle]

same-sex is most oftenly said since same-gender doesnt have the same oompf when saying it out aloud

and the gay agenda has alot to do with sounding very oompfy

https://tenor.com/view/oh-deer-im-queer-deer-queer-oh-deer-im-queer-gif-18773771

[hidden inlet]

Yeah. I'd still rather be more accurate, tho. Had to unpack a lot of oompfy stuff lately to develop a deeper understanding of things and I'd have prefered it if I actually just knew what was going on, but I get that we need that oompfiness.

[wicked jungle]

but the thought is very nice, we really should get used to as to when sex and when gender applies but i believe most languages dont get that into it that they offer different words?

i actually cant think of there being different words for it in german ._.

[hidden inlet]

Yeah, I think gender wasn't even really an often used word in the Netherlands. We just used "geslacht" and "sekse" which means "sex".

[wicked jungle]

yeah

[hidden inlet]

So now we just seem to copy paste "gender" as a borrowed English word.

[wicked jungle]

Here talking about "Sex" instead of "Geschlecht" is still awkward and put into the sexuality pile?

i wouldnt be surprised if saying "transsexuals" would still be normalized and misunderstood af

language is so complicated ;-;

[hidden inlet]

I still don't understand it if I'm honest. x.X After watching some Contrapoints and Riley Grace Roshong my understanding of gender, sex and sexuality has been smashed to bits.

Learning a lot of interesting stuff tho.

[wicked jungle]

yeah

it's also nice to write whole 20page documents about such themes in different languages

really makes you understand how you actually dont understand sh*t

[hidden inlet]

Not me flashing back to thinking "Gender studies sounds so fucking made up lol just pick one".

I completely understand why it's a subfield now. 😂

[wicked jungle]

ikr

we had a few seminars talking about gender studies in university but even then, the people presenting those usually understood less than the younger student audience

props to professors actually making the effort of educating themselves and being open to correction when educating about the complexity of the subject but dang

[hidden inlet]

kek.

I appreciate that it's a field in the first place.

Easy to just villify people calling for attention to the complexities as gender as fringe Marxist anarcho-fascist whatever-buzzword-salad.

And just go "man pants woman dress be normal".

[wicked jungle]

it's still so funny to me that men were supposed to wear skirts/dresses and that men were the ones in favor of high heels (looking at you, napoleon)

[hidden inlet]

Ugh, "be normal". That was the whole shtick of the current leading party for a bit. >_>

[wicked jungle]

that's the thing, we are normal :)

we are just as human as all those lgbt-phobic pieces of trash - except that we dont try to put down others

[hidden inlet]

Now it's "I know we financially ruined families on parental benefits by falsely accusing them of fraud and abolished the Department of Housing and Climate during a housing crisis, but we need to stand hand in hand and all take responsibility for this situation".

[wicked jungle]

legit it feels like members of the lgbtq+ put sosososo much more effort into being nice and also when a same-gender pair decides to adopt most of them do the maximum amount of research because they truly want the best for the child

and then you have stacy with her man wilbur who fosters children for the government cash

[hidden inlet]

Speak for yourself, I actively try to put down otherphobic assholes.

[wicked jungle]

yeah i meant putting others down for no other reason than discrimination

[hidden inlet]

"P

😛

[wicked jungle]

xd

[hidden inlet]

But yeah. Largely also because we'd need to to be allowed to adopt in the first place. XD

[wicked jungle]

words are hard at 23mins past mindnight

yep but even outside of that

it's not like adoption in general isnt hard - even as straight pair you have to show you can be good parents for the kid

just often the "good parents" is made out of "how much cash you got?"

which is just bs

[hidden inlet]

Yeah. That's gonna be a hurdle to overcome for when I feel ready to be a dad.

Bluh.

I don't think therapists get paid enough to come off looking Rich with a capital R.

[wicked jungle]

what do you mean o.o

[hidden inlet]

Wanna be a dad. Wanna be a therapist. Therapists average around 2000 a month, slightly under twice the amount of benefits you'd get here.

[wicked jungle]

How much money does a Psychologist make in Netherlands? A person working as a Psychologist in Netherlands typically earns around 7,740 EUR per month. Salaries range from 4,030 EUR (lowest) to 11,800 EUR (highest). This is the average monthly salary including housing, transport, and other benefits.

[hidden inlet]

Yeah, that's if you're a full on PhD having psychologist, I think.

[wicked jungle]

As of May 2018, the median annual salary for clinical, counseling, and school psychologists was $85,340 per year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The lowest 10 percent of workers earned less than $44,040, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $129,310.

[hidden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shook-wtf-what-omg-gif-11649433

[wicked jungle]

i would imagine that the difference in the salaries come both in the sense of do you just get a bachelors degree, masters or full phd and also +experience%

[hidden inlet]

The career pointer website lied to me.

[wicked jungle]

😂

you got a good chance at being a dad again

just need to work them brain.-muscles a bit longer

[hidden inlet]

I'm consistently pleasantly surprised by my low standards. I think I should lift them up a little.

[hidden inlet]

And with a little, we mean about 10 years. XD But worth it.

[wicked jungle]

yeah i had the same low standards idea for teaching

but then i found out that teacher's salary in germany reached from 5k per month at the min to 7k and higher

and i gotta say for a lonely spinster catlady that's some gud cash

[hidden inlet]

Plan on learning Social Work first and then going into Psychology bachelor and hopefully Clinical (Neuro)psychology masters.

[wicked jungle]

that's awesome

[hidden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kid-computer-thumbs-up-face-gif-9548945

[wicked jungle]

i'm in the middle of my pedagogy studies

afterwards it's time for some teaching and also a psychology master hopefully

[proper knot]

feel for you with studying pedagogy

[hidden inlet]

Love that. 😮

[wicked jungle]

i really want to have a better understanding for my students and be a better teacher to them

if i gotta put a few more years of work into it, so be it

[hidden inlet]

We stan teachers that actually care about, y'know, teaching.

[wicked jungle]

xd

yeah, the biggest issue for teaching degrees is that most universities only put you in one or two pedagogy courses and everything else is about the subject you teach, as though your work is to just talk about the subject and not actively teach it to other human beings

i dont think that people who wanna become like maths teachers dont know their maths, that would be kinda awkward~

anyways positive gay vibes

[surreal lion]

I love that. that's hilarious

[fallow whale]

Sus😳

[humble tusk]

[fallow whale]

Cute sticker

[humble tusk]

it's an emote from a twitch streamer's discord

[fallow whale]

I see

I should try drawing cute stuff, I'd like to make my own stickers

[humble tusk]

go for it

[fallow whale]

Also comics if I can force myself to start doing personal projects again

[wicked jungle]

remembers the times of reading warrior cats

remembers my pfp

f*ck

[iron escarp]

warrior cats wasnt huge here

but i feel like we've got equivalents to it in terms of what its original readers turned out to be in adulthood

like i know a lot of dutch harry potter book readers did in fact turn out queer or neurodivergent

or alternatively, the gifted kids that learned english soon enough to read the book in english over dutch

percy jackson is also one of those though i dont know if it has a dutch translation

but idk if there's any other dutch lgbtq+ peeps here that could spar with me abt the native dutch books thing

[cosmic basin]

Well, didn't a huge part of the Dutch youth back then read Harry Potter?

[iron escarp]

i mean maybe its just a predominantly christian village thing

[cosmic basin]

Hmmm possibly

[iron escarp]

bc i know other ppl like me that read it are young are queer or neurodivergent now

i feel like if it wasnt as generally popular as i assume, dolfje weerwolfje could be like a book that trans individuals read in their past if they're dutch

but i feel like i dont actually know enough dutch lowkey niche books to work with(i started reading english books very early)

[cosmic basin]

Idk honestly.. But many of the people I know that read and enjoyed those books aren't queer or neurodivergent

As far as I know, that is

I could be wrong!

[cosmic basin]

Same here, tho. Maybe de Griezelbus?

[iron escarp]

YOOO

maybe????

[cosmic basin]

Hahahhahaha

[iron escarp]

i can see it

monsterlovers lit (dutch edition)

i also feel like specifically dutch books on mythology and crystals just were the first step into spiritual queerness

especially if its anything greek/roman or egyptian

[cosmic basin]

Ugh yes

Loved that

And still do

[iron escarp]

also studying history as a hobby is inherently queer like dont try to say it isnt

[cosmic basin]

Oh I love history

Not that I can retain any information

But I love reading about history stuff

[iron escarp]

i also feel like there's specific anime that were dubbed into dutch and came on tv, that if you watched them you'd probably identify as queer now, like watching multiple seasons of inazuma 11 even though you'd never be invested in real football matches

[cosmic basin]

I feel attacked

[iron escarp]

its called being socialized feminine and then realizing you're queer at 17

the only reason you feel attatcked is because our experiences are so similar xd

[cosmic basin]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[iron escarp]

im also calling myself out with this thread so

[cosmic basin]

Hahhahaha

[iron escarp]

also you only recently realized that winx/totally spies made you be like 👉 👉 women are nice(most likely)

[cosmic basin]

................. Will you STOP?!

What the hell

[iron escarp]

clairvoyant but make it queer

also you cried over the pokemon movie with celebi in it

[cosmic basin]

?!?!

Yo

This is all me, babeyyyy

[wicked jungle]

i heard totally spies.

[iron escarp]

👉 👉

you sure did

also idk if any of y'all were interested in moster high as kids but im like having a very much belated interest in it

[wicked jungle]

honestly mood, we need a queer mentalist and psych in out lives

it's been so long that i heard those two words

monster high

[iron escarp]

👁️
👀

[wicked jungle]

chaos is that you?

[iron escarp]

yes?

[wicked jungle]

xd

this is why queers own the galactic cosmic aesthetic

[iron escarp]

yeah!

[wicked jungle]

it all makes sense now

[iron escarp]

i also completely forgot abt kim possible(especially liking the villain) is so inherentluy queer it might have shaped over half of my taste in feminine ppl

[wicked jungle]

i just recently rewatched kim possible - i remember just heavily falling for shego

aint even into the "step on me" trope but SHEGO MY LADS

[iron escarp]

you know what we could do as a lgbtq channel activity? watch barbie movies

[wicked jungle]

SHUT UP I JUST FINISHED THE GALACTIC BARBIE mOVIE XD

[iron escarp]

i watched like half the barbie movies in like a few weeks dont hmu

[wicked jungle]

also somebody on youtube made it their job to edit barbie??!?

hahaha

[iron escarp]

YES THEY DID

[cosmic basin]

Lmaoooo omg I've been wanting to watch those

[wicked jungle]

join us

[cosmic basin]

I never did when I was a kid because I was a tomboy and "girls are stupid"

But I've been getting Barbie vids in my youtube recommendations

[iron escarp]

there's a reason island princes and three musketiers are my favourite old ones

[cosmic basin]

The movies look HELLA fun

[iron escarp]

they areee

[wicked jungle]

earthtocaitlin is the channel

[cosmic basin]

I really want to know who this Preminger fella is

[iron escarp]

i also watched crystal palace a lot as a kid

[wicked jungle]

OH MY GOODNESS

[iron escarp]

lmao not himmm

[cosmic basin]

HAHAHA

[wicked jungle]

I AM WATCHING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bez88BGPt8 RIGHT THIS SECOND STOOOOOOP

[cosmic basin]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

OMG

[iron escarp]

HAHSHHDHFWUHFE HW H

[wicked jungle]

XDD

[iron escarp]

i gotta watch it

[cosmic basin]

"A"

[iron escarp]

there was also a preminger noise compillation i believe

[cosmic basin]

I think I watched that one

[wicked jungle]

honestly it was barbie swan lake and barbie in the nutcracker that HARDCORE made me love ballet

[cosmic basin]

Was super fun with zero context

[wicked jungle]

omg where 👀

[iron escarp]

BUT WHAT ABT BARBIE AND THE PEGASUS

or 12 dancing princesses on the topic of ballet

[wicked jungle]

ok yes TRUE

[iron escarp]

pegasus movie is SO SASSY and FOR WHAT

but yeah barbie swanlake my beloved

[wicked jungle]

idk about ballet-ballet with 12 dancing princesses but it definitively won me over more in the "family love uwu" than any disney movie (of the times?)

i have sadly only watched that one in russian and german and lemme tell you it loses SOOO MUCH OF ITS SASS FOR WHAT????

it was like i watched a full new movie when seeing the edits of it

it was already my absolute fave barbie movie next to rapunzel but HOO BOI

[iron escarp]

faerietopia still really holds a spot in my heart bc "nonhuman barbie!!!!!"

same with the mermaid/surfer movies

[wicked jungle]

WE AINT QUIET AND CLOSETED TODAY AND NEITHER ARE WE GONNA BE TOMORROW

[iron escarp]

eris was once again "queercoded villain that made me feel gender envy before i knew what it was"

[wicked jungle]

the fashion movie was really fun too

[iron escarp]

like the crown on eris <3

i just think its neat

[wicked jungle]

but what really blew me out of the water was the newer cosmos movie

[iron escarp]

Yeah but wasnt it like one of the relatively recent ones from the old line?

[wicked jungle]

it was, but it did such cute callbacks to its old movies and shattered my brain

||"what do you mean barbie was just an actress in all the movies??!??!?"||

[iron escarp]

like the one where barbie goes to paris and like does a fashion show while she learns to create patterns and sew in a week

yeah frfr

[wicked jungle]

yep

but it still was good

[cosmic basin]

Spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[iron escarp]

like the bloopers from pegasus were funny as hell but i didnt know it wasnt just in universe hahah's

[wicked jungle]

it was still better than the "magic shoes" or "magic door" one

i miss animated bloopers ;-;

[iron escarp]

fair ig

YEah like they were super funny to me

[wicked jungle]

the bloopers from ants life?

ughhh i miss themmmmmmmm

[iron escarp]

wenlock really did exist

[wicked jungle]

sassy boi

i love how they kept true to the wives thing of his

[iron escarp]

he unfortunately was my pipeline to liking dorian ngl

not my fault he is sassy, does magic and has facial hair

[wicked jungle]

dorian gray?

[iron escarp]

dorian from dragon age inquisition

🥰

[wicked jungle]

https://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/dorian1.jpg

beat me to it xD

[iron escarp]

i was slightly faster

but more dorian is always better

[wicked jungle]

yeah i just suck at names, pardon my ignorance

[iron escarp]

i actually have a commision i got done at a con of him(done by an artist named volgayart)

[wicked jungle]

love the name 👀

[iron escarp]

because of course i would commission the artist with "vol gay" in their name to draw my favourite gay man

[wicked jungle]

OUHSBIPVFOÜAPDÜAD

i hope it was a concious decision by the artist

[iron escarp]

plus they were working on an egg/solas commission so i knew they knew dragon age

[wicked jungle]

it would make them that more badass

[iron escarp]

it was, their logo was a literal cartoon butt if i remember correctly

[wicked jungle]

hehehe

[iron escarp]

they have a cursed furby logo now, i approve

[wicked jungle]

THEY WERE AT THE DOKOMI?

SHOOT ME

that them?

oh yeah you said cursed furby 😂

[iron escarp]

i mean they were at a dutch con in veldhoven which is where i commissioned them

i rlly hope next year it gets hosted again

[cosmic basin]

LMAO ABUNAI?

[iron escarp]

YES

[cosmic basin]

SHAHAFJH

[iron escarp]

YOU KNOW ABUNAI?

ADJJHDJH

[cosmic basin]

I used to go between age 13-18

Hahahhaha

[iron escarp]

oh damn i mean me too, i havent gone for a while

and now corona fucked up the time i wanted to go

[cosmic basin]

It's close to my parents' house so it was really convenient

I kinda wanna go next time for old-time's sake

[iron escarp]

i mean i have friends now with the same interests so we can kind of do a duo/triple cosplay

so then going is easier, i'd never go by myself again(ended up being alone at the con for basically a full day bc a friend neglected to show up)

[wicked jungle]

ahh i miss cons so much

[cosmic basin]

I haven't cosplayed in... wtf it's been 8 years aaa

[wicked jungle]

wait whaat

[cosmic basin]

Wtf that's fucked 😦

[iron escarp]

i mean at this point im just gonna go to cons for artists and because i need to know if my fandoms are dead or not

i mean he was like that the whole weekend, but friday was the only day i didnt have anyone else

[wicked jungle]

huh?

[iron escarp]

which was actually the same con we got recruited into an aqua-cult

[cosmic basin]

You what

Like

Team Aqua?

Or

An actual cult

[iron escarp]

no not team aqua, it was like a "useless goddess" from an anime that was popular at the time i think

[cosmic basin]

Ahhhhhhhh

Okay that makes more sense

[iron escarp]

but the ppl associated w it were fun and the point was basically just a big inside joke

like we hung around each other from time to time for the weekend and it was rlly funny

[cosmic basin]

I miss that about cons

Meeting fun people for the weekend

[iron escarp]

plus after we got sent like a mail thanking us for being part of the experience and i believe it also had a pic of us together in it possibly

god yeah

[cosmic basin]

Eating overpriced foods

Bumping into 385748973 people

[iron escarp]

i mean its a lot easier at fantasy cons bc you can just plop down wherever and eat pretzels with new con friends

[cosmic basin]

A group doing Caramelldansen????

[iron escarp]

ah yes, the classic

we also did the rockefeller street dance in the middle of the main hall with a whole group once, they had it on speaker so we started it and like half the hall joined in

[dark patio]

Hey guys! I don’t want to kill the fun conversation, but maybe if you’re talking about cons and cosplay and that sort of thing, it would be better in #💭general2

[cosmic basin]

Oops sorry!

[iron escarp]

thats fair enough, we got a bit carried away

[wicked jungle]

you two are honestly amazing

[dark patio]

It’s okay! It’s really easy to fall into using this as the gay general chat. I know I’ve done that before.

[wintry monolith]

Gender fuckery sucks, my dudes. Dysphoria goes BRRRRR. 🙃

Glad to have my partner's hugs - I'd be a lot worse off solo on this

[pearl sleet]

oops i came out on Facebook

so far so good

nothing negative yet

im really nervous

[strong cove]

I hope it turns out ok! It's a big step to take!!! I'm proud of you

[pearl sleet]

yeah

thank you so much

still nothing bad

everyone has been saying really nice things in the comments

[pearl sleet]

a few comments

brb gonna cry

[strong cove]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[night loom]

NeeveLooise#0465 has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

[pearl sleet]

mee6

pls

[strong cove]

Oh well, the sentiment remains the same

Thats so good!!!!

[pearl sleet]

nah i getcha

i am so lucky to have so many folks that care and love and support me

[wintry monolith]

Yay!!! Happy for you!

[strong cove]

Also sidenote you two have awesome names

[pearl sleet]

thanks

[pearl sleet]

dfgslkjgdfg my FAMILY

is saying

things like

finna cry again

[charred needle]

awwww

im so happy for you!!!

[pearl sleet]

if there is one thing in my entire life i am proud of if NOTHING ELSE
is how loving, accepting, and caring my family and friends are

they might not always get it

but they are behind me all the way

and that really is something special to me

and i really wish everyone could have that

everyone deserves that

[cosmic basin]

Awwwww I'm happy for you!!! Must be such a relief 😊

[pure oxide]

That is so amazing, Alex, I'm so happy for you!! ❤️

[faint jacinth]

That's very cute, I'm very happy for you! 🖤🖤

[wintry monolith]

This is tempting me to without saying anything, change my fb pfp to having an enby flag in the background of the current pic. 👀

[dawn veldt]

You guys have no idea how happy I am that their are gonna be non binary and lgbt characters, finally getting some representation (I finally don’t have to choose between “male” and “female” and have people will finally call me “they”😄)

[pure oxide]

Yes! 😄

[nimble quest]

Omg yes!!! I always have to choose male because I don’t want to look girly. To be able to choose female and look non-binary is going to be amazing!

[clever fog]

AHHH i'm so excited too!!!!

being a non-dysphoric dfab i was fine wtih choosing the dfab body and the mx honorifics, and the fact that the honorifics aren't tied to the body is already leagues and miles away from, like, basically the entire market LOL

but an androgynous body option is an incredible addition 🥺 i love my team

[iron escarp]

yeah its amazing, it was a big part of the reason i was drawn in

outside of the aspect of envriroment based mechanics you dont really see in other games like it to my knowledge

im still so sad i cant order the backerkit bc i dont have a credit card

[clever fog]

yeah! coral island really is something special, which is part of why i was so excited to join the team uwu

OH NO i'm sorry to hear that :C

[iron escarp]

i'll just wait for it, it'll be worth it regardless :)

[clever fog]

:D!!

[iron escarp]

these are the kinds of games i believe can make a huge impact, especially in terms of inclusivity

[dawn veldt]

I always had to choose female since that’s what everyone just assumes I am, even though I’m gender fluid and prefer being called “they/them”

[fallow whale]

Oh no I'll have to pick pronouns lol

Maybe there will be a randomised mod

Still looks really good either way

[wintry monolith]

The villagers using They/Them in ACNH euphoria like whoa

I love it

Also being able to change appearance whenever the fuck you feel like it is amazing

[fallow whale]

I wish I could change my name

In ac I mean

[wintry monolith]

Yeah that should absolutely be an option

Also moving the plaza

[pearl sleet]

i thought that said pizza

[fallow whale]

I think I'd leave it where it is since I've built a lot of stuff surrounding it

I want brewsters lol

[dawn veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/punchy-dance-animal-crossing-new-horizons-cute-gif-16767370

[fallow whale]

Cute

I like Henry and ribbot

Two of my fave villagers in acnh

[wintry monolith]

There are so so many pride patterns if you look em up

They're super cute

[fallow whale]

I was gonna make my town flag the trans flag or something but I forgot

Or the nb one lol

I need to get back into playing it

[wintry monolith]

A few examples of pride patterns 💛

[fallow whale]

Tight

[clever fog]

that story is even better than what the tweet says!

trhe single lesbian in question previously had a similar dog, but specificallyu wasnt seeking to replace him, rather looking for companiosnhip - still, prancer's story resonated with her, especially given she's a recovering marijuana addict who works at an all-women facilityu for other recovering addicts, and thus can really relate on a lot of levels

prancer went home with her the very day she went to meet him, because they clicked so immediately and so strongly

and he's apoparently been a happy little gentleman - still neurotic but sweeter than he'd been with his previus human

[clever fog]

i love these omg

[fallow whale]

Oh that's pretty nice

[clever fog]

isn't it :D!

i'm glad prancer's story has ahappy new beginning

[fallow whale]

Too bad I only have plants

[charred needle]

how are my gays doing tonight

[fallow whale]

Getting ready for bed lol

[wintry monolith]

Mid workday lol

Just got off lunch

Waiting for answers about a ticket that was sent back to us

[fallow whale]

Fun

[wintry monolith]

Hoping tylonal kicks in soon for my wrist pain

Ye

Very /s

XD

L2's name keeps popping up on the ticket as he views it and I'm like. 🍿 yes? Answers?

[fallow whale]

It's cold

[fallow whale]

My knee is real achey

[pearl sleet]

Mom saw my post on Facebook and told me "If that's what you want" and has also started calling me Alex

[blissful granite]

Did you tell her about it pre-FB post?

[dawn veldt]

:0

[pearl sleet]

No

[brazen willow]

thats pog alex

[pearl sleet]

Very much so

[blissful granite]

She deserves much love. I'd have a hard time processing something I learned on social media vs a one-on-one.

[pearl sleet]

I have a hard time with one on one since I get so nervous

It's easier for me to type it out

[blissful granite]

I see

[pearl sleet]

considering when i thought I was bi I told my step dad and he said "you better not be" i have trouble with face to face confessions

[blissful granite]

Do you have a good relationship with your mom?

[pearl sleet]

The best

She was essentially my only parent for my whole life
Step dad just leeched off of us and went to prison for terrible things

[blissful granite]

I think it's okay to talk to her one-on-one then. Maternal figures tend to have a lot more kindness and understanding. I wouldn't base your fears on a person who is, essentially, a dbag.

[pearl sleet]

I know

I also have a hard time with conversations, as it takes me a little bit of time to properly process my racing thoughts

So it really is easier for me to consider my words while writing a post without a time limit

[blissful granite]

One of my earliest memories of my father is saying "If I ever had a f---ot for a son, I'd kill him." To my face, before kindergarten. But sometimes you need to face those fears, and allow a person that you love deeply to have that one-on-one conversation with them, just so they know that you want to know how they feel specifically. Facebook's more of a megaphone than it is a conversation.

[pearl sleet]

I know I just dont wanna bother my mom with having to wait for me to explain somethi g properly

[blissful granite]

If she loves you, it doesn't matter how long it takes to explain it. 🙂

[pearl sleet]

I dont have a fear she isnt accepting

Aaa this is stressing me out trying to explain myslef properly

I gotta get back to work

Ciao

[blissful granite]

You're amongst friends, is okay.

Today's been a rough day. an LGBTQ advocate who invested over 50 years of her life, and someone I admired deeply, was laid to rest in a funeral home. The service was nice, but it still hurts. I met her about 15 years ago.

[wintry monolith]

offers 🫂

[pure oxide]

I'm sorry. 😦

[iron escarp]

boi(affectionate)

[clever fog]

i love that i come to the coral island server with a gender crisis

and that's the first thing i see

[iron escarp]

nonbinary goals: become the darkness

there's a reason theres so many nonbinary goth folk

[dry swift]

I, for one, support our enby overlords

[iron escarp]

:)

[supple brook]

I know it's just a joke but calling nbs "they/thems" erases a LOT of nb people who don't use they/them and it can feel really invalidating, I think that's an important thing to keep in mind 💞

[dry swift]

I do know about people who don't use they/them, and I wasn't meaning to erase them. I've changed it to something that's better 😅

[supple brook]

Yeah I didn't think you didn't!! It's just a reeeeally popular meme on tiktok n stuff nowadays and it just ignores a lot of ppl since pronouns aren't indicative of gender anyways!

[iron escarp]

you have a point there

i've actually seen it a lot in the way of "the girls, the gays and the theys"

when they just want to be addressing those in the lgbtq community and cis women

[harsh knot]

Enby goals: “Born of God and Void. You are the vessel, you are the Hollow Knight.”

[iron escarp]

agender goals: be hollow knight?

no gender only DARKNESS INCARNATE

[harsh knot]

Oh hec I forgot, yes that

[blissful granite]

they is also appropriately referring to someone of whom you don't know their gender or pronouns.

[iron escarp]

hollow knight is such a cool game, i had it on a shared switch and nearly finished it before i got my own switch, and now i just refuse to pick it up again

yes! like strangers or unknown people

[blissful granite]

Yep yep.

So a he/him/his and she/her/hers can still be referred to as they if it remains an unknown to the writer or speaker.

[harsh knot]

Dang, you should pick it up again!

[iron escarp]

in terms of like discourse around enby ppl: i hate it when ppl see nonbinary as some sort of third gender or woman lite

[harsh knot]

Also this

[iron escarp]

like based on the statements earlier as well

like im afab so seeing people refer to nonbinary as those things just makes me feel lowkey dysporic ngl

[harsh knot]

When I don’t know and haven’t asked the person for pronouns yet, then I refer using they/them until I get the proper pronouns

However once I do ask and I get the pronouns of the person in question, I immediately use the pronouns that I’m given for that person

[blissful granite]

The point of contention among the literary critics isn't the use of they, but the verb which follows after. this is still a hard pill to swallow for most writers. Because it is not "They are" -- it would indeed be "They is" "He is a person." "They is a person."

They would, therefore, be singular, as referring to one person.

[iron escarp]

i mean there's other langauges that have both a singular and plural version of something akin to they/them pronouns

[wicked jungle]

hardcore struggling when having to refer to somebody whose pronouns you dont know in (highly) gendered languages
huge appreciation goes out to the english language having they as appropriate and normalized pronoun for gender-respect~

[blissful granite]

Correct, and English really does not. Usted for example, is simply reverence, but we don't have the same verb tables.

[wicked jungle]

usted is used as gender neutral pronoun?

[supple brook]

Interesting

[wicked jungle]

ikr 👀

[supple brook]

I think the problem is just.. Equating nb ppl to they/them pronouns, it's just a very weird thing to do

[wicked jungle]

it's the easiest

[supple brook]

Like you wouldn't call men he/hims yk

[iron escarp]

yeah

[blissful granite]

I also think it's the easiest.

[harsh knot]

Yeah, Latin based languages are :( sometimes

[blissful granite]

My friend is nonbinary and prefers they/them.

[supple brook]

I'm not talking about using they/them or referring to people you don't know the gender of with they/them pronouns

[iron escarp]

yeah like everything like including objects n all that is gendered right?

[wicked jungle]

also it's kinda respectful in the same way it may seem disrespectful

[harsh knot]

Yep

[supple brook]

I'm specifically talking about phrases like "the girls the gays and the theys"

Or "go they/them go"

It's just weird as fuck

[iron escarp]

i mean its probably also done because its "catchy" or at least the first one

[supple brook]

Yeah it is definitely

[wicked jungle]

those people just dont seem to get what pronouns mean

[iron escarp]

like it feels like just like the language version of making trans men your "uwu soft boys" or smth?

[wicked jungle]

gift them a grammar lexicon after spouting such catchy wrong stuff

[gritty flax]

im confused by this

[supple brook]

I've legit seen people comment in a non-binary persons comments sections say shit like "omg look at this handsome they/them" like ugh

[iron escarp]

like especially when it comes down to the stereotyping of all nonbinary people are obsessed with these animals, this music all, these fashion styles all that

[supple brook]

Like "go girl go"

[iron escarp]

🤮

that just aint it

[wicked jungle]

me @ those: just use "person" ffs

[supple brook]

100%. Tiktok had turned nb ppl into the new uwu softboy trans guys

It's so fetishizing and weird

[iron escarp]

i mean if i did make content on tiktok i'd be boiled down to that stereotype

[gritty flax]

at that point for those who use they them, you could use their name, or just omit the pronoun in general

[wicked jungle]

tiktok is disgusting once you leave the artist or candy making side

[iron escarp]

like i have autism and i am asexual so they're going to see me as some sort of pure baby that has never experienced the world

[supple brook]

It sucks

[blissful granite]

Established social media, in general, tends to be garbage.

[iron escarp]

true

[supple brook]

Yup, exactly

[wicked jungle]

ahh the good old days when it was tumblr's turn to be the only internet's garbage can

[iron escarp]

please dont remind me of the old tumblr days

[supple brook]

Tiktok has its great sides, there's some really funny shit on there. I'm on dnd tiktok a lot and it's great

Oooof

[iron escarp]

dnd tiktok!!! yes

[wicked jungle]

that's something i have never thought of

[blissful granite]

I'd disagree, Facebook has always been a garbage can. I was one of the Phase 1 beta testers almost 20 years ago.

[supple brook]

It's funny that tumblr is by far the chillest and most bearable social media site now

[wicked jungle]

dnd tiktok sounds intriguing

[supple brook]

How the turntables

[supple brook]

It's so fun!

[gritty flax]

dnd tiktok is my favourite

[supple brook]

I'm also on mostly dnd cosplay tiktok a lot haha

[gritty flax]

but i havent been in tiktok for awhile

[iron escarp]

i mean i've never used facebook but i know enough abt the fake news stuff and targeted ads to be so scared of it

[supple brook]

And genshin lately

[iron escarp]

genshin!!!

[supple brook]

Facebook sucks complete ass

I've not logged into it for YEARS

[blissful granite]

facebook started as a college-only platform, and then they got greedy.

[wicked jungle]

tumblr is now the biggest plattform for fic recommendations, show-gifs, and some funny shit that has existed back in the first year but gets reblogged to the heavens

[supple brook]

I legit only still have it for like. Events in my area

Tumblr is fucking fantastic and I will only leave if the site gets shut down

There is no other social media site that let's you be so anonymous anymore

[iron escarp]

yeah thats why i like it

plus i dont get judged for never posting

[wicked jungle]

omg this^

[supple brook]

Exactly

[iron escarp]

like im just vibing lurking in fandoms

[supple brook]

There's 0 pressure

[iron escarp]

looking at fanart

[blissful granite]

Reddit's a bit a dumpster fire too. I'm not sure if you'd call it social media as much as it is a intense comments section

[supple brook]

Ugh reddit

[iron escarp]

both of these statements are in fact true

[wicked jungle]

the commentssection of earth

[supple brook]

There are some really good subreddits I can't lie

But I'm not even slightly active

I mostly use it for like, video game tips and that's it hahah

[wicked jungle]

i only sometimes lurk in the AITA subreddit and leave

[supple brook]

Oh aita is fun

[blissful granite]

i just youtube stuff for hints

[supple brook]

But tbh I'd rather follow the Twitter account that repost the aitas ahah

[blissful granite]

YouTube's been getting kinda shady too, the videos it recommends to me is a little too hyperfocused.

[supple brook]

Ah ywah I just Google and usually end up on reddit

[iron escarp]

twitter scares me lowkey

[supple brook]

Oh youtube is godawful with that

Twitter makes me feel like a rabid dog

[wicked jungle]

there were some "trans women aint women" kinda queries there the last week and they got hated so much i love it
usually reddit is overwhelmingly overfilled with lgbt+ hate outside of the lgbt+ subreddits so this was a nice aita week

[blissful granite]

Oh the TERFs stuff?

[iron escarp]

oh god terfs

[wicked jungle]

nah some other stuff

[iron escarp]

1 fear: being undermined in identity im still somewhat unsure of where i stand

[wicked jungle]

huh?

[iron escarp]

that was phrased awkwardly

but i was referring to terfs trying to undermine a gender identity im still figuring out(but isnt cis for sure)

[wicked jungle]

ah

[waxen hare]

terfs are so evil

[wicked jungle]

i got called a terf or being nb, it was a weird experience

am i a terf when i am nb?

[iron escarp]

im still suprised with how much support harry potter gets despite its creator

[wicked jungle]

am i the problem o-o

[waxen hare]

no o my gosh!! terf is trans exclusionary radical feminist

[blissful granite]

you don't have to figure it out. just be you, and the best you. labels are a double-edged sword.

[wicked jungle]

i know but

like

[solar plover]

@iron escarp I hate how much people are prepared to brush under the rug

[iron escarp]

like death of the author doesnt work if the author profits off of things related to the franchise

[waxen hare]

basically the people who say trans women arent women

[wicked jungle]

yeah

i know that

but like

idk how to word this

[iron escarp]

exactly, i mean especially when it comes to people with a lot of influence spouting hateful rhetoric

[wicked jungle]

they just alluded to nb people thinking trans women dont exist/are valid hence going by nb?

it was a weird f*cking experience

[iron escarp]

??? hows that supposed to even work

[wicked jungle]

IDK

[blissful granite]

As an old queen who has been an activist in the LGBTQ+ community across 25 organizations, lemme tell you a secret.
Come in close

[supple brook]

There are unfortunately nb terfs but calling ppl terfs BECAUSE they're nb??? HUH

[blissful granite]

People only fight for stuff if they're unaffected and willing to change.

[wicked jungle]

YES I WAS SO CONFUSED BY tHAT

like yeah, nb terfs exist and all, if i came across as an idiot who doesnt value trans women as women, holy shit i apologie profusely but i just said "i finally came to terms with being nb" and they called me a terf, idk whether to cry or laugh

[hidden inlet]

Maybe China was onto something regarding internet censorship. Christ.

[solar plover]

I stayed in the closet until I was 31 because my mum doesn't believe in bi sexuality and because she is otherwise a good person I figured I was messed up. Our society is so twisted

[blissful granite]

China and Russia do not have very good track records with humanitarian treatment, sooooo

probs not 😄

[wicked jungle]

just censor the stupid, gatekeepers and trisha paytases - ahh i wish it were that easy

[iron escarp]

yeah..

[solar plover]

@wicked jungle I'm sorry you had that experience, it shows their lack of education on the subject more than anything x

[blissful granite]

Define gatekeepers.

[wicked jungle]

people who devalue you for not fitting their experience

[waxen hare]

i feel like twitter should have like a "are u sure u want to post this" confirmation box

[wicked jungle]

like people who are sayign "you arent trans if you didnt do surgery period"

[blissful granite]

Ah, I agree with that statement.
Gatekeepers is used in journalism and I was worried that was going in a different direction. 🙂

[wicked jungle]

i didnt know that, the more i know,, sweet davy jones 👀

[charred needle]

Gatekeep
Gaslight
Girlboss

[solar plover]

Media have a lot to answer for

[iron escarp]

lmao not the triple threat

[blissful granite]

Well, there's journalistic integrity, and there's 24/7 news networks.
And they're very opposite, unfortunately.
And both like to be called media.

[solar plover]

True

[blissful granite]

24/7 media is fffffffffing garbage.

[iron escarp]

i mean regardless of which side you fall on in that is that you're still bound to some kind of superior that can just decide that your topic shouldnt be covered

i think

[hidden inlet]

I was being hyperbolic for a joke, which I know is really low effort, but the actual point I do want to make is this: If you're literally haranging a person in a minority demographic for being a person in a minority demographic, websites should have the right to kick you off, and this definitely falls into that.

[waxen hare]

and online news outlets tend to be v reactionary for those sweet clicks and then people read the sensationalist headline and not the article 😭

[iron escarp]

that too

[blissful granite]

Right.

[hidden inlet]

I mean, I thought associating being in a minority demographic with an ideology so they have the can rail against the ideology and minority as if they're synonyms was a right thing?

Right wing

[blissful granite]

And because journalism is a 4-year bachelor's degree focused on ethics, and requires a paying job
And a blogger is just someone who likes to rage and get clicks.
Advertisers are more willing to give the one more presence, as long as $$$$.

[hidden inlet]

Holy shit, right wing. Not right.

[wicked jungle]

but honestly people who use "i am allowed to have an opinion" as argument should be made aware that sure that's correct but you have to take accountability over your opinion ._.

[blissful granite]

Accountability is a huge problem, yes.

[hidden inlet]

Love people who think just because they have the right to say something that means it's empirically supported.

[waxen hare]

free speech means the government cant censor what u say it doesnt mean other people cant hold u accountable for ur horrible takes

[wicked jungle]

especially with the internet being anonymous on most platforms there are too many people who just go, sh*t on somebody for the sake of being anonymous and leave

[blissful granite]

plus bots.

[hidden inlet]

Was a fun experiment that was done in the Netherlands that kind of highlighted this unintentionally.

[iron escarp]

i have witnessed a lot of people do/say hateful things towards marginalised communities simply because its their opinion and i just wont stand for that obv

[blissful granite]

i think the problem was bots 4-8 years ago. nowadays, i think they're all people, mimicking the bots.

[wicked jungle]

there was this video by a black artist who drew herself as kiki and SO MANY PEOPLE were openly racist to her and degraded her entire existence and it was deemed "ok" and "funny" cause internet????????

how dare.

[iron escarp]

wait holdon i think i might have heard of it b4

[hidden inlet]

During the election times, some folk created an app to link people with opposing political views together annonymously to have a private conversation/debate.

[wicked jungle]

experiment ;o;

[hidden inlet]

I think it was called WatKiesJij? Or something?

[iron escarp]

i'd look it up but i wasnt like part of it

so i dont know what it would be called

[hidden inlet]

Actually got some interesting convos out of it, but I think about 1/4 folks and bots spamming bigotry.

Even one guy pretending to be far left for like an hour only to say we should deport the black immigrants... except he didn't say black immigrants. :E

[iron escarp]

yikes to the 1/4 folks

[wicked jungle]

ohhh big yikeys

[iron escarp]

like im really scared for the netherlands

[hidden inlet]

Fucking same.

[iron escarp]

it really seems to be politically heading right ever steadier since corona and the stuff in france is NOT HELPING

[hidden inlet]

We have a very dense "live or let die", neglectful liberal government that not only validates the far right in saying how awful everything is, but also allows for a lot of far right ideas to spread just casually.

[iron escarp]

im not a muslim/jewish person but i am so scared of them losing their rights to wear their religious clothing

as well as the push towards literally letting disabled people die excused by "oh but its the pandemic"

[wicked jungle]

goodness

[hidden inlet]

The ministers assigned to communicate and spearhead COVID management are also the most untrustworthy, incompetent fools they possibly could have picked.

[wicked jungle]

this is horrible

hoped so bad it was only germany falling thx to covidiots in the parliament

[iron escarp]

i mean the hospitals are still at max capacity and cant take anymore patients and still the time restrictions on being outside and the restrictions on going out for a drink were (basically) lifted

[hidden inlet]

No wonder there's a massive group of COVID-questioners or minimizers in the Netherlands if the people who are supposed to inspire trust just don't. At all.

[iron escarp]

yeah...

i just feel like at this point the minister-president is doing everything to be able to be re-elected, by keeping the protesting "covid is fake" mob happy

[hidden inlet]

I'm in an assisted housing facility for people with ASD and someone I know who also lives here literally saw some social workers partying without distance without a care in the world on King's Day.

[iron escarp]

im in assisted housing too

and im really paranoid abt smth like that happening here too

especially because i have asthma, so if i got covid i'm basically already gone

[hidden inlet]

And then the same folk don't enforce social distancing during social events created by them because and I quote "it's more your responsibility as to whether you want to distance yourself and stay healthy".

Like.

No.

[iron escarp]

:(

i mean my social workers seem to keep themselves to the rules, we always keep distance and they always enter my space with a mask on

so im less paranoid abt it but they could still be in touch with social workers that arent that "diligent"

[hidden inlet]

I'm just thoroughly annoyed.

[iron escarp]

as am i

[wicked jungle]

idk how bad it is in netherlands but here they actively fake results and death certificates for the ignorant people who think "oh it's getting warmer, covid will die out soon"(this was aCTIVELY SAID BY A FUCKING POLITICIAN IN THE PARLIAMENT I AM SCREAMING)

[iron escarp]

especially because i've done everything to keep to the rules fully

[wicked jungle]

lets just say nurses and social workers arent happy

[iron escarp]

its p much the same here

[hidden inlet]

They promised they'd enforce the distancing and then didn't, making people feel safe enough to come over and then just decided to not.

[wicked jungle]

and those who have brains are losing hope in our parliament

[hidden inlet]

I'm sorry, what.

[wicked jungle]

oh so it isnt pretty much the same? @-@

[iron escarp]

like i literally isolated myself from friends and to the extent i could family so i could ensure i was following the rules to the T

i mean they dont fake numbers or anything for covid deniers here but they just make that shit up themselves honestly

[hidden inlet]

I mean, the person spearheading the Dutch COVID erradication first condemned individual citizens for not following guidelines and then got caught breached them himself and lifting restrictions, saying we should be responsible enough to handle things.

[iron escarp]

i saw it more than enough back in my hometown village, where people were so confident covid would never spread there and still have whole family gatherings, not wearing masks all that

i even witnessed a man taking off his mask as soon as he got on the bus and got a spot

that made me really anxious

[iron escarp]

yep

[wicked jungle]

yeah i remember a similar thing with german twitter going wild after a right-wing politician who said "covid isnt real lol" got vaccinated

[hidden inlet]

I'll be brutally honest, I'm struggling to keep up with the guidelines myself, because at least here, they change just about every week.

[iron escarp]

that was sure a thing that happened that i would have liked to not have in my thoughts

[iron escarp]

i mean yeah

[hidden inlet]

I just try to distance and wear a mask and that's it.

[iron escarp]

like one week there's avondklok, then there's not

and the times kept changing

[wicked jungle]

i always have such anxiety leaving my house and seeing everybody without masks

just wear them ffs

[hidden inlet]

For the non-Dutch, avondklok is just curfew.

[iron escarp]

first it was like 8, then half past 8, then 9 and then 10

and now its just gone?

[wicked jungle]

you had a curfew?

[iron escarp]

even though there were no improvements or case-stability to warrant it at all

[hidden inlet]

We did, for a while.

[charred needle]

Not to be that person but I came in here for some gay memes and there's a political discussion about the Netherlands and COVID-19

[hidden inlet]

I mean, small meme, sec.

[wicked jungle]

oh sh* sorry

we hogged the lgbt channel again ;-;

[iron escarp]

it was set in place mostly for nothing imo bc secret illegal parties were basically all over the news every day

[wicked jungle]

oh wow

[hidden inlet]

Boomers: Gays spread AIDS and are icky.
Also boomers: wHaT aRe YoU aFfRaId Of A cOuGh??

[iron escarp]

they really do contradict themselves constantly

[wicked jungle]

for you

[iron escarp]

they really are the girlboss, gatekeep, gaslight generation

[charred needle]

They be like "the gays are pushing their sexuality onto us" meanwhile I can't go 2 minutes without an unnecessary hetero love story in every media

[wicked jungle]

asbhpöaosda

[iron escarp]

YEAH LIKE WHATS UP WITH THAT

[wicked jungle]

thISSSSSSS

THE F*CKING LOOK

ONCE THE LOOK IS THERE AND YOU KNOW IT

[iron escarp]

like if i have to witness another cishet s8x scene i

i will lose it

[wicked jungle]

just a screaming fest of "PLEASE DAVY JONES NOOOOOOO"

[iron escarp]

please no i can see it in my head

its burned in my memory

[hidden inlet]

The look?

[wicked jungle]

also whoever has a list of words to say instead of "god" in "Oh god" hitmeup cause as much as i love davy jones it's getting dry

[iron escarp]

or like that excpet they have like a minute long kiss session and im just🤮

and its always in the middle of a big plotpoint too?

[hidden inlet]

I'm barely ever disgusted by it and more just... indifferent unless it's actually wholesome, but do y'all remember the fuckery in Beyond Two Souls?

[iron escarp]

like i came here for dragons and adventuring, not some sort of teenager wet dream

plus at this point it just feels wrong bc im like an adult and these characters are almost always minors/teenage characters

[wicked jungle]

like if the man knocks over the woman and lands on top of her and they lay there and look at each other and 🤮

[iron escarp]

dont think i've seen it

[charred needle]

If I see this one more time I will burn down Hollywood like in the Disney movie Bolt

[wicked jungle]

i just finished watching ouran high school host club and MY GOODNESS IT IS FILLED WITH THOSE i wish i could send the whole anime as example

i mean what did i expect but geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[wicked jungle]

OH SWEET DAVY JONES

DONT

[iron escarp]

i mean i liked ouran but thats just because i projected on haruhi before i knewi was trans

[wicked jungle]

ELLIOT 😭

[charred needle]

Anime 😩 the king of perverted main male characters and fetishized lesbian relationships

[wicked jungle]

genderbend animes and kdramas are honestly also the best

[hidden inlet]

tl;dr of it's basically it's a game, there's a character who grooms and manipulates you into killing innocent people, there's multiple points in the game where you can communicate how disgusted you are with him and there's still a mandatory scene where he sneaks in a kiss and she's just like 😐

[charred needle]

[wicked jungle]

there are good straight relationships in anime/cartoons
but then you remember that they are kids
then you just hurl yourself into the abyss

[iron escarp]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[iron escarp]

yes! i really liked rayla and callum from dragon prince personally

[wicked jungle]

wait what

[hidden inlet]

There's a torture scene with him that was supposed to tug at the player's heartstrings, but I just sat there like "GET THIS PRICK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD".

[wicked jungle]

i dont remember that at all

[hidden inlet]

The soldier dude.

[wicked jungle]

OH

[hidden inlet]

When she goes to the military.

[wicked jungle]

i was thinking of the shower-scene

[charred needle]

Maybe straight people shouldn't be allowed in entertainment anymore

[iron escarp]

"a torture scene that was supposed to tug at the players heartstrings" now where have i heard that before sweating

[hidden inlet]

Only every media piece with bad writing.

[supple brook]

Not a straight relationship but one my favorite m/f relationships are probably on she-ra, glimmer x bow and mermista x seahawk are so sweet :')

[iron escarp]

i need at least 1 emotional support hetero couple, i feel like a lot of queer portrayals of relationships focus on like bad aspects n like cheating n stuff and its almost always sad/tragic

[wicked jungle]

or about how gay they are

or they become the support gay couple that are just "perfect uwu"

[hidden inlet]

If you're gonna come for Cam and Mitchell from Modern Family, we 'bout to fight.

[iron escarp]

like is it so wrong to just want one queer relationship where one of them doesnt: die, get severely injured, split apart bc of long distance, get in a fight that meant nothing and split over it, sexually based split ups

[charred needle]

I wish there were more LGBTQIA+ movies and shows made by members of the LGBTQIA+ community

[wicked jungle]

i have never seen modern family, i apologize

[iron escarp]

yeah :)

[supple brook]

I am just here to spread the good word of she-ra and the princesses of power

[hidden inlet]

Oh God, has anyone here seen Rita?

[charred needle]

Rita

That sounds familiar

[wicked jungle]

i wish more non-problematic people would exist in entertanment

but nooooooooooooo

[iron escarp]

she-ra and dragon prince :) my comfort shows

[hidden inlet]

Show about a teacher who's cool but also a mess.

[supple brook]

Tdp is so cute too! Love that show

[wicked jungle]

me with criminal minds
i may have a problem

[hidden inlet]

And she has a gay son with some arcs that are... cringeworthy at best.

[iron escarp]

i actually found out what general amaya signed in some episodes and i just, my heart :)