honestly that's valid
#🌈lgbtq
fiery steeple
rapid coral
Valid. I don’t talk much in places especially if they’re large like this one but I’m trying.
fallow whale
Yeah large ones are hell
pure oasis
I just want people to be happy with themselves and their bodies. However that may come. Any sort of gatekeeping or expectation put on someone should be just taken away. No one knows what's right for anyone person. We're all so vastly different even if we have similarities
fiery steeple
when I have depressive episodes, I mute all my servers and only talk to like
one or two people
rapid coral
Honestly exactly Talmanes. Also yeah I feel that too.
fallow whale
I tend to shut everyone off, even my gf who I live with oof
fiery steeple
I used to do that
I had to force myself to talk to even just those one or two people just to stop myself from sinking too deep
fallow whale
I don't yell or anything, I just try separate myself since I don't want to bother her with my sad mood
pure oasis
Thats a big mood @fallow whale I understand that so much the worry about being a burden on those you love or care about
I...just had to think about it from their perspective
rapid coral
Yeah honestly fair. I used to isolate a lot because I didn’t want to feel like a burden or drag someone else down with me.
fiery steeple
my advice
next time you feel sad, just go find her and ask for a hug
fallow whale
I'm bad with physical contact lol
pure oasis
I want to be someone my loved ones can come to and lean on, you know? Why should I take that away from them when they just want to be able to do the same.
fallow whale
Gf is the only person I enjoy touching
fiery steeple
it takes a lot of time and effort to untrain that natural instinct to isolate your own sadness, so just take small steps toward opening up
it's a lot healthier and you'll be a lot happier once you do
I've been actively working on it for years and I'm only slightly better about it lmao
fallow whale
Even with her I can be weird with contact lol
pure oasis
That's fine
fiery steeple
yeah not everyone is comfortable with physical contact
pure oasis
You should always move at your own pace and comfort
fallow whale
I should probably be checked for like a million things besides gender stuff lol
fiery steeple
I mean it could be a mental thing, could be a childhood trauma thing, could just be that you're not a very physical person
pure oasis
Lol, maybe but then maybe not? It's alright to think about alot of things but its also alright to take things one at a time.
fallow whale
I think mental and also trauma
fiery steeple
some people just do better with words or actions rather than actual contact
fallow whale
Although I'm pretty good with the trauma thing nowadays
rapid coral
Honestly do whatever is best but yeah just take things one at a time.
fallow whale
I keep to myself mostly
pure oasis
Of people who see you, care about you, and don't pressure you
fiery steeple
well if you ever want to talk or need someone to vent to, we're here for ya
pure oasis
rapid coral
Yeah I’m always here to talk to.
fiery steeple
I've been told I'm a dangerously good listener
fallow whale
I've kept most of my old friends pretty distant as I moved away and also started changing
fiery steeple
that's fair
never know how people are gonna react
fallow whale
I mean one of my friends is a homo/transphobic Incel lol
rapid coral
Oh yikes.
fiery steeple
they don't sound like a very good friend
fallow whale
Another would probably be uncomfortable about me
fallow whale
well if you ever want to talk or need someone to vent to, we're here for ya
Thx tho
And another one barely responds to me
fiery steeple
I'm not gonna pretend to know your story, and you know what's best for you better than I do, but personally I'd cut toxic folks like that out of my life
rapid coral
^
pure oasis
^
fallow whale
All my high school friends besides my gf kinda suck lol
pure oasis
You can always make new friends o:?
fallow whale
And we've only been dating for like half a year
fiery steeple
if I have to worry about someone hating me for knowing who I am, I'd rather just not worry and remove them from my life lmao
fallow whale
You can always make new friends o:?
I'm quiet lol
pure oasis
I'm quiet lol
I was too,
fiery steeple
innernet friends!
pure oasis
I have made changes in my life
To help with that shy and quiet nature
But thats because I wanted to change those things
You don't have too
Nothing wrong with being shy and quiet
fallow whale
I'm super awkward lol
pure oasis
Hun I'm still awkward
fiery steeple
I might be more outgoing when I'm happy with my body and appearance but also
I'm happy with my internet friends
I love them too much to replace them with new irl friends 🤷♀️
fallow whale
I can only really talk when I have to do a law presentation for uni
fiery steeple
well look at it this way
if you got rid of all those friends you barely talk to
would anything really change in your life
fallow whale
I barely talk to them lol
fiery steeple
exactly
fallow whale
Just wish I could lose my family
fiery steeple
oh honey that's an entire mood and a half
fallow whale
My family think I'm straight/cis and still hate me lol
fallow whale
They have the inheritance from my grandparents I currently need for uni fees
fiery steeple
then tolerate them until you don't need them any more
then tell them to get stuffed
fallow whale
You dont need blood to be a family
Lol reminds me of a song
fallow whale
*then* tell them to get stuffed
They know where I live lol
fiery steeple
and you can get a restraining order if you need to
there are laws in place specifically to protect people from abusive family
fallow whale
Already been thrown against a wall a few times when I lived at home
fiery steeple
sounds like that restraining order would come in handy then
fiery steeple
you can probably take the step out of that tbh
fallow whale
Probably
fiery steeple
whether they're bio or step fathers
most of them suck big time
there's some that are great people
fallow whale
At least my actual father doesn't want to be part of my life lol
fiery steeple
probably some of the best guys you'll ever meet are dads
but the vast majority of fathers are complete bastards
fallow whale
I like my gfs parents
fiery steeple
I don't understand how some people can be such monsters to their children
pure oasis
Have you talked to your gf about your gender dysphoria?
fallow whale
All the time lol
pure oasis
I don't understand how some people can be such monsters to their children
Its usually fear
fiery steeple
the people that are legally, socially and emotionally supposed to be there and provide for you no matter what
and they actively choose to be horrible bastards instead
fallow whale
Glad I left at 18
fiery steeple
Its usually fear
I'm not even talking about LGBTQ+ children
just in general
fallow whale
Only 21 but I still don't think I would've lasted staying
pure oasis
@fiery steeple you're right...sorry I was more just speaking from the context
fiery steeple
I'm gettin worked up over this
fallow whale
Sorry lol
chrome cedar
I just walked in here but I want y'all to know you are valid and deserve to be loved and listened to and supported 
fallow whale
I'm more apathetic about it now with some anxiety
pure oasis
chrome cedar
I was 26 when I moved out from home due to college and money stuff, but it was more than time to do so
fiery steeple
I have no intention of interacting with my father if I can help it
the rest of my immediate family. . . when I move out I'll be significantly limiting interaction, not sure if I'll completely cut them from my life yet
suppose it depends on how they react to me transitioning
chrome cedar
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you
fallow whale
I don't see myself keeping in contact lol
chrome cedar
all decisions are valid
fiery steeple
as for extended family
I'm almost positive most, if not all of them will either never want to see me again or try to "fix" me if they find out
brazen willow
hows it going gaymers?
fallow whale
Can't blame big tiddies on the 5g towers
fiery steeple
I wish I could
pure oasis
It's going well, just a little passion
fallow whale
Tbh I'd be happy with being disowned lol
pure oasis
Hahahaha
fiery steeple
shame the champion of pog himself was a pretty not cool dude
brazen willow
o?
fallow whale
Yeah lol
fiery steeple
I forget exactly what was said but it was some pretty not chill stuff
pure oasis
Just remember what Shariza said, we are all valid and deserve to be loved and listened to and supported
fiery steeple
he is no longer the pogchamp emote cause Twitch was like "yeahhhh let's not associate with him any more"
brazen willow
he is no longer the pogchamp emote cause Twitch was like "yeahhhh let's not asso...
but y?
thats my question
fiery steeple
god you really gonna make me look this up I need to sleep
brazen willow
you dont gotta
fallow whale
Supported the white house raid or something
brazen willow
ill do it after class
fiery steeple
oh yeah that's what it was
fallow whale
god you really gonna make me look this up I need to sleep
Go sleep lol
brazen willow
artemis go sleepy
fiery steeple
Supported the white house raid or something
yeah he was tweeting in support of the extremists
pure oasis
@fiery steeple sleep well, and may your arrows always fly true
pure oasis
Lol phone auto correct kills me everytime
fiery steeple
dw I got what you meant lmao
pure oasis
fallow whale
Caps were fine lol
wicked jungle
i know i'm hella late to the conversation but i just wanna make sure: feeling (way) more comfortable presenting as a different gender fits under that umbrella too, right?
is being bi-/multi-gender also understood as trans in certain ways?
I just want to make sure i understand feelings and the term "trans" correctly because there are just so many different opinions and i'm honestly just exhausted
blissful granite
I mean there are debates as to whether or not gender expression fits within the trans* community, but I'm not a fan of debates. Live your life to the fullest and no regrets.
Sometimes we just put ourselves in boxes instead of checking multiple ones
wicked jungle
100% agree with the no debates about personal identity, i'm just trying to make sense of which information is complete bs
and also how to explain "identifying yourself" with something better, it's a very weird expression that i personally cannot grasp if that makes sense?
pure oasis
i know i'm hella late to the conversation but i just wanna make sure: feeling (w...
That's a great question! If you notice I didn't label what you are or aren't in that statement. I personally am a extremely gender fluid person who identifies more with the feminine and wants to present as feminine. Does that make me weird for a transgender person maybe lol, its not my place to put labels on people its only my place to try and find the truth that best fits for me. I've never felt much like a male and tbh sometimes I feel like I'm not much of a female, but I know what makes me feel comfortable and it's presenting and being female so that's what I choose to do.
hidden inlet
Yes, bigender and multi gendered counts as trans . Same with genderfluid. Some may personally not want to id as trans for w/e reasons they have, but they are overall understood as trans identities and the majority do identify as trans.
pure oasis
Yes, bigender and multi gendered counts as trans . Same with genderfluid. Some m...
Eye is super right about this I know quite a few non binary transpeople
wicked jungle
i didnt know people dont consider nb folks trans 👀
hidden inlet
Nonbinary ppl are trans, they have been included in the flag, but some nonbinary ppl dont personally id as it for their own reasons !
wicked jungle
more that people are on the fence about people who are bi-/multi-gender who still have a connection to their assigned at birth sex
hidden inlet
Yeah, but no they still are trans as long as thats what they id with
wicked jungle
which is just like it makes a tiny bit sense but stfu
pure oasis
Yeah its all about what you carry on as for yourself
wicked jungle
Yeah, but no they still are trans as long as thats what they id with
exactly
pure oasis
Its the same argument with straight/gay transpeople
wicked jungle
pardon?
wicked jungle
o-o
pure oasis
They aren't mutually exclusive things
wicked jungle
why are people so gatekeeping i never even had this brainfart in my (questioning and educating) mind
pure oasis
People like labels
pure oasis
They like to conform
dark patio
Labels aren't necessarily about conforming, though
wicked jungle
ofc not (as reply to Talmanes)
pure oasis
Labels aren't necessarily about conforming, though
Sorry I was just speaking in a general context, but I agree
I'm a firm believer in living your life as best you can for yourself
And being proud of that decision and knowledge when you find it
For me personally it isn't easy by any means, hahahaa I didn't ask to be born with gender dysphoria and live almost 25 years not understanding what that was or is...but now I do, and now I do the best I can. I try to be true to who I am on the inside and want to reflect that on the outside as well
wicked jungle
i'm sorry if i sound stupid but i've looked up definitions about what "conforming" means (in english and german) and am confused
pure oasis
I shouldn't have used that word technically
I was just trying to impress that people enjoy labeling as a comfort mechanism
To differentiate others from themselves or to align with common interests
wicked jungle
for me labels are the only things tht can make me feel like i can understand my own identity
i cant live my feelings (sexuality-wise) and neither can i live my identity so it's giving me comfort that there are overreaching words and labels that explain how i'm feeling is normal. whenever i can say i am a panromantic ace nb i feel alive, if it makes sense?
pure oasis
And that's perfectly fine
wicked jungle
feels like a but(t) incoming
wicked jungle
well i'm still unsure but it feels the most fitting, hence why i still make such big annoying efforts to educate myself
pure oasis
I couldn't figure out how to describe what was going on inside of me till I realized I was transgender
wicked jungle
it took me 21 years to accept that i aint cis
pure oasis
well i'm still unsure but it feels the most fitting, hence why i still make such...
If you're not sure that's fine too lol, just got to keep digging and learning about yourself
wicked jungle
i'm trying, it's just hard with all the gatekeeping and misinformation
once i asked somebody on tumblr who was very open about their sexuality if my feeling or panromantic ace was a thing and they cursed me out in 3 paragraphs 🥲
i really liked them, that was a very sad day 🥲
pure oasis
Lol tbf I rarely take anything someone says from tumblr with any sort of stock
So don't worry to much about it
Just remember you are valid, and important, and worthy of anything and everything.
wicked jungle
well you could say the same about some discord users/servers; and oh my goodness twitter is filled with hate
pure oasis
That's true as well
I...try really hard to never tell people what they should or shouldn't do, just give examples of what I've gone through and what others I know have experienced and offer that as an example for them to think on
Mind you I'm no where near perfect at it
wicked jungle
the only thing you can definitively tell people not to do in lgbt+ discussions is: dont be a dick, all people are valid as long as they dont hurt/abuse others
rapid coral
Honestly that’s just a rule I hold for everything.
wicked jungle
amen
rapid coral
Honestly I’m panromantic and on the ace spectrum as well.
wicked jungle
our numbers are growing
pure oasis
Its ok to be weird or normal, it's ok to be something or nothing, and you don't need to worry about it. Find your own answer make sure it something you're comfortable with...and then remember everyone else is trying to do the same thing
pure oasis
I can't control them :p , I only have control of myself
rapid coral
Exactly. You are responsible for yourself not others.
wicked jungle
somebody's gotta educate
waxen hare
yeah gosh!! and never be afraid to change labels if u discover somethin else about ur self 
rapid coral
Education is always good however you cannot control how they take information and how they learn or not learn.
waxen hare
we're all fluid as individuals
wicked jungle
Education is always good however you cannot control how they take information an...
oh 100%
pure oasis
I like to tell people
I'm the sum culmination of experiences past and present I've gathered from myself and other individuals.
And the more I learn the more I see the more I feel the bigger that sum of experience becomes
rapid coral
We are constantly learning or at least we should be. Our opinions might not be the same a month, a year, even a week from now.
pure oasis
Yup
rapid coral
I’ve only discovered recently that I’m on the ace spectrum.
I’ve known I’ve been panromantic for a long time I just struggled with parts of my identity and realized I was just on the ace spectrum.
It explained a whole hell of a lot for me.
wicked jungle
pan always felt right, but ngl the whole discussion of bi vs pan really made me feel guilty for years, but now i just say f*ck it, it maks me comfortable, i'm not pan just to hurt my fellow multi-romantics
rapid coral
Yeah exactly honestly identify however you wish. I find it funny because I’ve dated people who were binary and non binary, trans and cis.
Though I’ve found I prefer to date other trans people. Just feels more comfortable?
wicked jungle
totally understandable honestly
i really cringe thinking back at why i started identifying as pan, because i misunderstood "bi" as "attraction to only two genders" and trans as a third gender; i was so f*cking stupid
ahhh remembering those days makes me hate myself so much 🙂
rapid coral
Honestly we all make mistakes sometimes. But nah, I’m very much just a regular old dude just happen to have been born different,
pure oasis
Honestly we all make mistakes sometimes. But nah, I’m very much just a regular o...
Mood, except im a dudette
Lol
rapid coral
But I have this girl who I have feelings for and she has feelings for me and it’s nice that she lives close by and is also trans and interested in all the same things as I am.
rapid coral
Only issue is that she’s almost a foot taller than I am.
I really like taller people to date. I’m joking but seriously.
pure oasis
That's a thing lol, lots of tall women who are trans hehehe
rapid coral
Lots of short guys who are trans.
Including myself.
I am like 5’4” and she’s 6’2”.
dark patio
Wolverine is only 5'3"
wicked jungle
dark patio
and so am I, which is very helpful for making my comfortable with my height
dry swift
Meanwhile Wolverine is canonically at least a hundred years old 😂
dark patio
around 130-ish
dry swift
It goes up according to the decade
dark patio
And which timeline
dry swift
Unlike most other heroes
rapid coral
Hell yeah.
dark patio
old man logan is, welll
wicked jungle
in the movies he's 167-185
dark patio
movies are a different universe than comics
rapid coral
I always ask anyone I’m dating to cosplay with me.
I’m planning a Caleb from critical role or Fjord, maybe Mollymauk cosplay.
dark patio
one of the first presents my boyfriend ever got me was replicas of wolverine's dog tags
and i bought him playing cards
rapid coral
That’s such a good gift.
dark patio
we met each other through a roleplay server where i was playing wolverine and he was playing gambit
rapid coral
Even better.
I’m just glad I found someone I can actually visit and see at some point easily.
wintry monolith
I am like 5’4” and she’s 6’2”.
I'm 5'2 and Bear (my partner) is 6'5.
Tall partner just means more to cuddle xD
Tol
wicked jungle
perfect cuddle size
dry swift
So basically I need to find someone who's around 6'8 to get my perfect cuddle size
Sounds about right
wicked jungle
if you can be the taller partner and be a small spoon, you can definitively also be the big spoon if you are smaller
indigo axle
A favorite was to refer to it is "jetpack" and "jetpack operator"
hidden inlet
So true :(
compact peak
i got my dose of t and needles from the pharmacy todayyyyy
gritty flax
Ayyy, im happy for you
wintry monolith
i got my dose of t and needles from the pharmacy todayyyyy
Do they give you a sharps container to dispose of the used ones in?
compact peak
i have one from last time
compact peak
im supposed to put it back in the box it came in and mail it to the disposal place marked on the box
[shrugs] s'weird but it is how it is
rocky relic
That’s tall... 👀
I’m only 180cm
wicked jungle
waxen hare
im 155cm 😭
midnight ruin
im 155cm 😭
me toooooo
storm spire
tall ppl are hot, but the tall/short couple dynamic is chefs kiss
so there is hope for us short folk
shrewd wasp
fiery steeple
👀
storm spire
hot
fiery steeple
tragically I'm too tall to have this fantasy performed upon me
and my girlfriend is about the same height as me so I can't even gift it to her 😦
fiery steeple
they'd need to be pretty bloody big stilettos but I can sure try
storm spire
big big mood
supple brook
I don't really like heels but any Form of platform shoes? Hooo baybee that's what I'm talking about
storm spire
A mood
chrome cedar
Meanwhile I'd love to wear high heeled shoes but also I'm tall and look ridiculous imo
iron escarp
man i really missed playing hades, havent had the time to do a proper run in so long
supple brook
Meanwhile I'd love to wear high heeled shoes but also I'm tall and look ridiculo...
NAH THE TALLER THE BETTER
Tall people who wear high heels are so powerful
iron escarp
i really cant wear high heels
which is why i have platforms hehe
also tall ppl with platforms is like a double power move
supple brook
Yesssss
chrome cedar
You make me want to throw on a dress and some heels but I won't leave the house today at all
fiery steeple
I'm just shy of 6 foot and my favourite heels are 3.5"
supple brook
You make me want to throw on a dress and some heels but I won't leave the house ...
Do it do it do it
iron escarp
You make me want to throw on a dress and some heels but I won't leave the house ...
i mean you can still wear a dress and high heels if you dont leave the house
supple brook
Sometimes you gotta get fancy just for yourself
iron escarp
dress fo yourself!
chrome cedar
I'll do it
fiery steeple
You make me want to throw on a dress and some heels but I won't leave the house ...
you're the only one who needs to like how you look anyway
chrome cedar
that really helped with my mood rn 😄
fiery steeple
hell yeah
wicked jungle
when you're tall everybody just tells you to not go for high heel/plattform shoes ._.
chrome cedar
Yeah, my friend keeps telling me that I should not wear them
iron escarp
i mean you dont need to listen to them if you like going for high heels or platform shoes
wicked jungle
or if you wanna go on a date and are thinking of wearing those cute boots with a 2cm heel and they say "ugh you're just flexing your height" stfu ;_;
chrome cedar
That's mean
iron escarp
thats rude of those kinds of people
wicked jungle
i was once in a shoe store with three of my friends who were all 20-50cm tinier than me and the clerk got angry at me for trying their high heels on and gave me no-heel ballerinas ;-;
fiery steeple
wtf
iron escarp
i really dont understand people that police other people's appearances
iron escarp
its hella rude and it literally helps nobody
wicked jungle
i get it if it's stuff for comfort that they truly know about, but when it's superficial things like "you're tall, tfyou need 5cm heels for" why does that matter 😂
hidden inlet
Honestly, sounds like they're just bitter that they can't be taller than you anymore. :/
chrome cedar
I am not good at walking in high heels, but they make me feel pretty and confident. So even if my friend laughs at me because I'll "hit my head on a doorframe", I'll wear them if I want. I just don't wear them often, usually only for special occasions
supple brook
I would learn to walk in the tallest high heels possible next to that friend out of spite
Catch me learning how to walk in stripper heels JUST to spite them
chrome cedar
xD
fiery steeple
the highest I have seen are 15 inch
chrome cedar
Well, in turn I make fun of them being short, because I'm taller than them even when I'm barfoot and they wear heels x'D
wicked jungle
Honestly, sounds like they're just bitter that they can't be taller than you any...
they werent even that tinier than me but oh well,people got issues i guess
sweet bacheezus
chrome cedar
People like judging other people for whatever reason
wicked jungle
sad but true
chrome cedar
Everyone would be happier if they just looked at themselves instead of constantly looking at other people and judging them
wicked jungle
as fashion store clerk you are sometimes oblligated to be the fashion friend of the customers
depends on the store
chrome cedar
yes, but if someone wants to buy high heels, you don't angrily take them away from them
wicked jungle
100% agree
chrome cedar
If someone wants consulting, tell them your opinion. If someone doesn't ask for consulting, don't consult them
wicked jungle
and most importantly dont ever insult them :)
chrome cedar
yes exactly
It's one thing to give tips and hints, but another thing to insult customers or go "yeah, you should not wear this"
wicked jungle
but even that can be said ina nice way
chrome cedar
I admit that I'm also an anti-social shopper xD I don't want store clerks to talk to me
fiery steeple
"I'm not sure that suits you"
chrome cedar
but even that can be said ina nice way
That is also very true
I was thinking more of the rude "you should not wear this"
wicked jungle
same but i also never shop that much irl
chrome cedar
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind store clerks walking up to me and asking whether I need help, but I'll always tell them that I'm fine
wicked jungle
most shops carry german granny fashion here and i'm less into tht hah
wicked jungle
all people who have to work with customers deserve respect, but f*ck if it doesnt anger me if they snip back at me if i kindly told them "no thx" just because other customers tend to be less nice
professionalism brother ;_,
wintry monolith
i was once in a shoe store with three of my friends who were all 20-50cm tinier ...
"Wow the air down there must be really salty, huh?"
wicked jungle
hahaha at least cashiers at my grocery stores are forced to be kind
but fashion store clerks? just run once you see one of those
wintry monolith
Mood
chrome cedar
I want some new clothes but I dislike the current style of clothing Q_Q
wicked jungle
i missed the two of you (raven n shariza) lol
wicked jungle
just sew/iron a cute patch onto the hole ;3
wintry monolith
The not so internal sneers of fashion places. Like holy fuck dude chill I just wanna look at the cool things.
The "You can't afford here" looks
wicked jungle
i'd get it if the fashion was at least "good" 😂 but it's granny fashion and brother thats boring
chrome cedar
I'll try to sew it close
wicked jungle
every time i see a new one-tone beige long sleeves tight neck shirt my eyes just wanna turn into sand
chrome cedar
For a while, my dad worked in this super expensive high-class store. I once went to see him and all the people looked at me like "What is SHE doing here"
wicked jungle
oh no dear ;_;
chrome cedar
DON'T JUDGE ME JUST BECAUSE I WEAR A ZELDA HOODIE, OK?! 
wicked jungle
you're looking better in that hoodie than anybody else inthat room and they just jelly cause they need to look professional
wintry monolith
Ngl, I tend to prefer second hand stuff anyways. It's lasted this long and it's still in good shape? Hell yeah. It helps with fast fashion landfill? Hell yeah. It fits you and already has that warn in/washed in softness? HELL YEAH.
wicked jungle
i didnt know second hand shops existed o-o
fiery steeple
when I did my retail course, the teacher told us a story about when she worked in a clothing store
and this raggedy ass practically hobo looking guy came in and was looking at a super expensive jacket
all the other workers didn't even bother talking to him cause they're like "yeah he can't afford that"
she went up and served him, and he ended up paying for it in cash
wintry monolith
i didnt know second hand shops existed o-o
Whaaaat
wicked jungle
we only have red cross organizations that accept old clothing but i've never seen a real second hand or antiques shop like i've seen in american tv or youtube
fiery steeple
the moral of the story is be polite when you're serving every customer
chrome cedar
when I did my retail course, the teacher told us a story about when she worked i...
This reminds me of pretty woman 😂
love it
wintry monolith
Thrift stores/second hand stores/consignment shops/antique stores. They go by a lot of names
wicked jungle
when I did my retail course, the teacher told us a story about when she worked i...
in cash 👀 druglord?
fiery steeple
maybe
chrome cedar
I just looked at some of my favorite stores, and the fashion rn seems to be "straight cuts". But I need my clothes to be form-fitting, esp. dresses, else I'll hate myself in them
So... no clothes for me rn
wicked jungle
I just looked at some of my favorite stores, and the fashion rn seems to be "str...
whispers in your ear
online shopping
chrome cedar
I was online shopping
I don't go outside these days xD Also clothing stores are closed anyways
wintry monolith
Knowing your measurements is like cheat codes for clothing when they have sizing charts
chrome cedar
😂
wintry monolith
Vanity sizing can fuck right off though.
wicked jungle
the only clothes i even buy for myself are dark harajuku style items that are baaaaaaarely my size but fuck i i dont love random dingelings
chrome cedar
I fell in the hole of rockabilly dresses
Petticoats, bows, flower patterns... gib pls
Polkadots
wintry monolith
Oooh. Swishy rockabilly dresses are so pretty.
chrome cedar
I love them so much and I want more of them
wintry monolith
Spinny skirts best skirts
chrome cedar
I have 4 rn
I went to dancing classes for a while, and wearing one of the huge skirts for it was the best thing ever
The style is also super feminine, which I approve of
wintry monolith
If a skirt does not go Spinny is is a Sadness Skirt 😆
chrome cedar
that's a good jacket
wicked jungle
but sometimes the pretty and dainty pastel clothes just call my name and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
wintry monolith
If I had the bravery for it, and I wouldn't get "ma'am"ed, binder+spinny skirt would be such a fucking power move.
wicked jungle
<:blurryeyes:475914535467876362> that's a good jacket
it's hella warm too owo
and this one cause YES
first ever pride i lived through
do you mean binder+spinny skirt like short tube top + spinny skirt or am i stupid again?
wintry monolith
Saw this one person at a concert; tall and willowy, facial hair, a cool top, and a long spinny skirt. Very aesthetically pretty and hella confidence. 💛
Binder as in toggle tidd to flat. 😁
They're magic
Brb lemme find pics
chrome cedar
I'm a cis woman but I struggled with my gender because of hormone issues (I have lots of testosterone for a woman). Rockabilly dresses with their exaggerated silhouettes for wide hips and beautiful necklines are just the right thing for me to feel feminine, so they did a HUGE thing for my confidence
ooooooh nice 😄
wintry monolith
Old pics lol
Did the covid chop last year, clippers went brrrrr. :yellow_heart:
chrome cedar
❤️ nice
icy acorn
Any binder recommendations? I'm new to this
wintry monolith
I'm pulling a blank at the moment and got my two second hand from a discord buddy, but avoid the ones that have the claps like bras. Those can literally crush your ribs
Never use ace bandages, same warning
Both of my binders are full length bc that's what the guy had before getting top surgery
simple yoke
i got my fav binder from here https://shapeshifters.co/
and i have a rly comfy secondhand one that i think is gc2b https://www.gc2b.co/pages/gc2b-binders
wintry monolith
Aha! Found the old messages. Mine are Underworks
Big thing is if you're between sizes/unsure, go for the larger one or contact support and ask
timid bane
....so, Shapeshifters also makes custom sports bras 
iron escarp
mine are from a shop i'd never reccomend again as i ended up having to buy multiple times in standard sizing before finally settling on custom sizing but that one still doesnt compare to other binder companies ive seen
plus i didnt get to return the ones that didnt fit because i needed them shipped discreetly bc of family
wintry monolith
Oh! One of my friends has a shapeshifter binder! Xe raves about it all the time, it has a super funky pattern.
fallow whale
wicked jungle
blissful granite
hidden inlet
gc2b has always been the one ppl say is safe and trusted, and i have two binders from there ! (Ones too small for my body type, though it does fit)
wintry monolith
Nice!!!
clever fog
do y'all ever just... make an oc and stare at them and go.
you know what'd make you better? if you were trans
and so you make them trans
dark patio
Not OCs, but I do that with the canon characters I like
clever fog
tbh i have a hard time investing in media that doesn't already have explicit queer rep, and even then it's like, webcomics generally LOL, and im not one for headcanons
so i just throw transness at all my OCs
however. nothing wrong with makijng a queer comic Even Queerer in ur hcs
dark patio
haha, I’m just stealing things from The Straights.
clever fog
so supremely valid
dark patio
Wolverine is trans now and there’s nothing anyone can do about it
chrome cedar
I throw lots of gay at my OCs... but it usually happens because I ship them with someone of the same sex
clever fog
Wolverine is trans now and there’s nothing anyone can do about it
actually, you're galaxy brained and i'm so impressed
clever fog
I throw lots of gay at my OCs... but it usually happens because I ship them with...
i only have one straight oc LMAO the other one turned bi eventually
chrome cedar
😂 why not
I usually start with most of my OCs as blank slates when it comes to sexuality, aside from a selected few... and then I see who they fit with? ^^°
clever fog
to be fair, i have plenty of m/f relationships in my work, but no one's straight! i just can't write straight people i guess LOL
dark patio
I’m a 5’3” flannel wearing dad friend, Wolverine is the perfect character for me to project oh lmao
chrome cedar
I decide on sexualities on the go, and many end up demisexual
clever fog
OHHHH i'm demi!!!!
wintry monolith
Testosterone blessed Wolverine well. 🙏
chrome cedar
I'm aro/ace (at least that's my current take), so I... sometimes forget to assign sexualities to my OCs...
aside from Marcel, he is gay and he is proud of it.
wintry monolith
I wish I could be smol swole 💪
dark patio
Testosterone blessed Wolverine well. 🙏
Wolverine is transition goals lmao
clever fog
I'm aro/ace (at least that's my current take), so I... sometimes forget to assig...
honestly supremely valid of you
clever fog
I wish I could be smol swole 💪
as a goblin person: yes same
wintry monolith
I wouldn't wanna be that fuzzy 😆
clever fog
i would have zero qualms with being extremely fuzzy
i want to be a teddy bear. alas, i am extremely petite
dark patio
see that all depends on the artist drawing him, but I would be very happy to be a bear
dark patio
Incredibly valid of you
I just wanna look like I belong in the mountains chopping wood
wintry monolith
Hell yeah
clever fog
i do too!! but more for social purposes than dysphoric ones. i'm dfab and feminine-bodied, and perfectly comfortable in it, i just wish to be perceived as nonbinary without changing the way i look
clever fog
I just wanna look like I belong in the mountains chopping wood
hell yeah
chrome cedar
I really want to build more nb or trans OCs
dark patio
I really want to build more nb or trans OCs
Do it
clever fog
I really want to build more nb or trans OCs
do it!! do it for all of us! trans their genders!
dark patio
I knew someone once who role played a bunch of marvel characters, and every time someone gave them shit for writing a character as trans, they made another character trans
chrome cedar
😂
wintry monolith
I actually envied the hell out of Mystique for years for shapeshifting ability. Which I now look back on egg self like "Ohhh"
dark patio
I actually envied the hell out of Mystique for years for shapeshifting ability. ...
Me with Loki for a long time
wintry monolith
so many of my gaiaonline OCs had shapeshifting abilities of some sort
chrome cedar
Shapeshifting is super cool
wintry monolith
One of my characters was literally genderfluid between male and female forms.
I just didnt have the words, yanno?
chrome cedar
That's fair 😄
wintry monolith
was also very very heavily raised christian at that point to, so repression went brrrrr
chrome cedar
My OCs never had sexualities and it took me 23 years to figure out that this might have a reason 😂
So you're valid
radiant tundra
My OCs never had sexualities and it took me 23 years to figure out that this mig...
I RELATE
wintry monolith
My nonbinary changeling assassin rogue character, Lor:
Current human disguise
Changlings eyes are described as colorless in their natural form, so I went for unsettling as fuck
chrome cedar
that's really cool
wintry monolith
Thank you!
They also have a....shortbow? I think?
But there wasn't enough room on the heroforge model
Or there wasnt a shortbow model
Can't remember
They have like. 5 daggers on their person at all times.
It's hilarious
dry swift
Or there wasnt a shortbow model
Heroforge has a shortbow model, but it's hard to pick out from all the others unless you look at them individually
wintry monolith
Ahh
dry swift
Just goes to show that no, you can't carry that many weapons.
fiery steeple
not with that attitude
dry swift
I mean, you can, but you can't fight with them all on your person at the same time.
fiery steeple
not with that attitude
dry swift
Oh, also, I will say, just to keep on topic; as someone who tentatively identifies as gay/queer (are woman pretty? or am me gay?) a good portion of my characters aren't. They're often under the flag somewhere (my longest-played character, for example, is heteroflexible, and the character who I think we've agreed he ends up with, she's ace.)
rapid coral
I end up making a lot of my characters queer in some way because it’s easier that way to me. Though for my current campaign some of the major NPCs are queer though I mostly play with LGBT folk because it makes me the most comfortable with D&D.
fiery steeple
my regular group don't really do character romances so I don't put much thought into most of my characters' sexualities
but in roleplays most of my characters are some form of wlw
simple yoke
my standby rogue is lesbian but i only know that because she's a character in a story i wrote some years ago
rapid coral
In roleplays most of my characters are pan with obvious exceptions. Also In a story I’m writing I have a lesbian trans woman and her cis lesbian partner as major characters.
fiery steeple
nice
gritty flax
In roleplays most of my characters are pan with obvious exceptions. Also In a st...
i would love to read this afterwords if i can
rapid coral
The main character is pan. It’s supernatural horror.
I just started writing it so there’s only a chapter for it.
rapid coral
I use Renée for roleplay a lot I love her so much.
simple yoke
i use kyla as my standby bc i know her character inside and out
and also her statblock
rapid coral
Renée is cottage core domestic lesbian who is a bit of a firecracker and the stubborn mom friend who will call you out on your shit and cannot lie to save her life.
simple yoke
kyla is a pirate born and raised who's striking out on land to see how she likes adventuring. and maybe also get a bunch of loot she can use to get her own ship and crew for Piracy Purposes
she loves sailing, fighting, and found family
rapid coral
Renée could realistically fit in anywhere.
simple yoke
i tried to port kyla into transformers three times before i threw up my hands and brought her whole family along
she's very much shaped by being their daughter
rapid coral
Renée was originally part of a sci fi plot.
rapid coral
Her fiancée was a cyborg made to be the perfect soldier however despite being reprogrammed with a chip she remembered and wanted out of the life she had been forced into.
simple yoke
awesome
rapid coral
Her fiancée was second in command to the leader and then Renée became the leader of the revolution.
But I wanted to write something with a trans person character that wasn’t focused on them discovering their identity and just allowed them to be well a person.
As a trans person myself I feel it’s very important to have representation like that. Because so many are about self discovery or them not being out and I wanted something where they’re just trans and it’s not mentioned as much and even when it is it’s not treated as a huge deal.
dry swift
please I get so fed up of the same storylines over and over.
'My parents tried to change me.'
'I liked girls before, why do I like guys now?'
'I'm homophobic/transphobic because I don't want to confront the fact that I'm X'
Like, we get it. That's an important storyline, and it's something all queer folk have to go through. We still want those stories. But we don't want just those stories
simple yoke
in her original iteration, kyla's cook is a trans woman. it doesn't even come up until a while after the cook joins their crew
gritty flax
*please* I get so fed up of the same storylines over and over.
'My parents trie...
Yea, I didnt have to deal with any of that xD I just took time to finally accept what was most comfortable to me because I was scared of retaliation or abuse growing up, not that I still think I wouldve
simple yoke
she simply Is
and when i ported her into transformers, kyla became trans as well, bc male-default for the robots
rapid coral
Exactly. Honestly Renée doesn’t talk about herself being trans as much. Maybe a casual mention to her friends or loved ones about it but that’s about it.
gritty flax
Yea, but there are Transformers who use female pronouns
dry swift
We live in a world where things like coming out as X and labelling ourselves as X shouldn't matter. But they do right now, and labels do help with understanding who you are.
gritty flax
Mhm, I agree
fiery steeple
if someone personally identifies with a label, power to them for figuring out who they are
even if I don't agree with labels myself
rapid coral
Honestly though I’m trying to think about what Renée as a character would do and her being lesbian would come up way more often. Like she loves to talk about her fiancée.
fiery steeple
I only use them for simplicity's sake so I don't have to explain the intricacies of my identity lmao
gritty flax
I only use them for simplicity's sake so I don't have to explain the intricacies...
Honestly, I would say the same, its easier to explain using things most people would be familiar with, or have some understanding of
fiery steeple
exactly
dry swift
Well, that's why I tend to use 'queer' as a catch-all term. It's not perfect, but it's a term we've used since before there were riots. Sometimes it's an identity on its own, and sometimes it's just 'I'm too tired to go through the whole list, this one works, too'. This being said, the only thing that would apply really would be to my sexuality, since I'm a cis man, but I hope the point is clear?
gritty flax
Sadly, im stuck with labels for alot...yay military
rapid coral
Honestly I use the labels trans man/trans masc, panromantic and grey asexual to define myself.
They just help.
fiery steeple
I just say I'm a girl and I like other girls, I like some other stuff too but it's mostly girls so you can just call me a lesbian ig
it helps that I like various lesbian words
like sapphic
well sapphic isn't exclusively lesbian ig
dry swift
Nope, but it's a nice one.
And like I said; labels shouldn't really matter. You are you, no matter what.
rapid coral
Agreed however I kind of have to tell people I date that I’m asexual.
gritty flax
I'm going through the process to transition for mtf, but im simply not comfortable with the male body, never have been, but I dont see myself as any particular gender, and im panromantic..... and I guess demi? But idk, like sex is nice? But at the same time, I don't really want it?
rapid coral
I only really do it if the other person wants me to. I don’t really feel sexual attraction but I would only to please a partner but I’m just not really interested in it?
gritty flax
Same, I relate to that, kinda, mostly
Like, I can experience the attraction still, but the desire, not so much? And the attraction is uncommon
dry swift
I'm going through the process to transition for mtf, but im simply not comfortab...
I'd certainly say that falls under Asexual. Some people only think of it as sex-adverse or just uninterested in it. I can't think of the name for the third one right now, but it's something sex-'agreeable term'?
fiery steeple
flsexible
rapid coral
I know well I feel romantic attraction and I am definitely not aromantic.
gritty flax
Romance is something I desire so badly lmfao
rapid coral
But the sexual desire and attraction just isn’t there as much.
The girl I like is also ace.
dry swift
Romantic attraction and sexual attraction are very different things 😁
fiery steeple
my sexual attraction is all over the place but primarily in the girl neighbourhood
I guess demiromantic would be the best label for my romantic attraction
gritty flax
That's where my main romantic attraction lies, but its not limited to women
rapid coral
I desire romance badly too. I want cuddles.
dry swift
Also, the amount of people that don't understand what 'demi' means. Ugh.
gritty flax
I desire romance badly too. I want cuddles.
Same, ive never had cuddles, my ex wouldn't do it
fiery steeple
I have dated guys I was romantically interested in
but I'm just not sexually attracted to guys who present masc
so I don't date guys cause I can't offer them anything of the sort
my best friend introduced me to like
actual hugs
and god damn they changed my life
dry swift
Cuddles are a basic human need, just like air and water. Fight me.
gritty flax
Also, the amount of people that don't understand what 'demi' means. Ugh.
I've claimed demi because it always was the most fitting for me, as I do still have the attraction to people I have an emotional attachment to, but the attraction and desire don't line up for me
gritty flax
Cuddles are a basic human need, just like air and water. Fight me.
Can we cuddle instead?
dry swift
Eh, stranger danger 😅
If I knew you, yes. Maybe not now 😂
rapid coral
I haven’t gotten cuddles in 8 months. I’m cuddle deprived.
dry swift
We're all touch-starved after this world event
gritty flax
XD RIP no cuddles, but honestly i agree, id be scared to cuddle someone I didn't know
I dont understand some of the apps I've seen people use
rapid coral
Yeah. I need to know the person to cuddle with them otherwise I don’t feel safe.
blissful granite
I dont understand some of the apps I've seen people use
The apps aren't bad. It's how people use them that can be good, or bad.
My most meaningful relationships originated on the apps.
gritty flax
The apps aren't bad. It's how people use them that can be good, or bad.
im not saying it in the sense of its a bad thing, i just personally dont understand it, i dont feel connections just by reading a description someone wrote about themselves, or seeing pictures of someone, so its weird for me, ive tried apps, but i just cant get to a point of actually talking to someone, because im like.... "I dont know them, and i dont think looks are enough to decide if i should like this person" kinda thing, which happens for literally every person i see on apps
blissful granite
I'd argue it's no different from a discord conversation. See some interests that they have and you have, start up a convo, chat a while, see where it goes.
Being an ancient relic of the LGBTQIA+ community, I'm old enough to remember life before the apps existed, and before the internet's boom. The vast majority of folk could only meet at bars in lieu of people wanting to hurt you and not accept you And bars were alcohol. And alcohol was the chance at DWIs. And the clubs had hard drugs like Molly/Ecstasy, heroin, cocaine. It was pretty difficult to find a longlasting partner in an environment where the music made it impossible to have a conversation..
Apps aren't always perfect, but in areas where you're not fully accepted for who you are, they can be a lifesaver.
wicked jungle
some people dont feel connections as deeply or even at all unlike others when they are only sharing pictures and chat messages. 100% valid and understandable
mentally i'm more comfortable and confident in chatmessages (probably because i have strong stutters in my speech etc) but nothing tops connections to real life people, and hugs
it's weird wanting real life connections but feeling extremely uncomfortable bonding with people irl
iron escarp
mentally i'm more comfortable and confident in chatmessages (probably because i ...
i have a p strong stutter in my native language, which is why i dont like to speak dutch often
but in english its for some reason mostly fine
wicked jungle
100% the same
iron escarp
like for german vs english?
iron escarp
is it just germanic languages in general having those pitfalls? or is it like just an individual thing
wicked jungle
i have honestly no idea, what about you?
iron escarp
mmmm i honesly dont know either
but i feel like i also stuttered more when i had to speak german but that might have just been general anxiety of speaking in class
so its hard to say
iron escarp
i mean i know that when i still speak dutch its always towards authority figures or people that are not my friends
wicked jungle
if i have to present/teach my speach is as smooth as Butter
iron escarp
so maybe the anxiety of it all makes it worse?
iron escarp
i mean thats helpful? i've been told so many times i need to appear more confident when presenting(aka stutter less, fidget less, control over volume)
chrome cedar
It might be that you speak English in corners where you are more comfortable?
Marmy, no. Don't make me hungry
chrome cedar
D:
wicked jungle
oh shoot get better quick!
wicked jungle
much hugs if appreciated ;w;
iron escarp
i had boiled corn for dinner today because none of the food i still had in my flat would have been better
chrome cedar
I had very weird dinner and am in the "I just want to eat things" funk
Feel better soon!
iron escarp
thanks, i hope i'll be alright by monday
cuz i have physical classes then and i really cant miss the start of a new school period
cuz i'll miss all the explaining for the assignments for next month
chrome cedar
Best of luck, I'm crossing my fingers for you!
iron escarp
im honestly thinking of switching to a liquid diet tomorrow so i make sure i dont throw up
but that'll leave me too weak to go to school monday for sure
since my body is already fragile as is when im not sick
wicked jungle
:c
iron escarp
and i dont even know which classmates have the same course so i cant reach out to them to ask them to make notes
so im not really doing to well with that
i cant even stim like i tend to do because it throws off my sense of balance and makes me feel worse
so im just stuck a repressed ball of blergh
at least i showered today/yesterday
days blend together
wicked jungle
maybe (if you still feel really sick tomorrow) mail your teacher?
some would be willing to share their worksheets if they know you're sick and have noone to ask
iron escarp
i mean i will have to as a heads up regardless
but we dont have worksheets
i go to an art school
so assignments dont work like at a non-art school
like they dont really have presentations or smth in the traditional sense prepared
wicked jungle
but there should be overarching themes that you go through, no? like a curriculum?
wintry monolith
clever fog
TRUE
clever fog
hi guys!!! next in the saga of my space queer hair: teal with shadow roots, featuring GDY's narwhal semi-permanent dye!
it used to be a purple-blue-aqua ombre on streaks, then before that it was purple and blue streaks, and before that it was briefly a sad brown because i was a teenager looking for work in a mostly republican state, then before THAT it was this awesome sunset gradient that happened on accident when i tried to bleach out purple... and now it shall be TEAL
wintry monolith
TEAL! 💛
chilly river
I've been trying to get teal from the Splat brand to stick in my hair for months, and it just refuses. I usually go for pink or purple, or blue XD
clever fog
my hair takes bleach and holds dye REALLY well
the gods truly did point at me and say, this one will be a little alt queer
wintry monolith
I've never dyed mine but want to at least once
Maybe/probably purple?
Wouldn't want to mess with bleach since we have a bird (birds are extremely sensitive to fumes) and my partner and I both have horrible asthma.
clever fog
oh valid!
wintry monolith
I'm due to trim/cut it soon anyways
So like
Hmmm
I'm approaching the growout mullet stage again lol
Did the covid cut last year
Home clippers went BRRRRR
Euphoria like whoa when it was done
clever fog
oh MOOD
yeah my boyfriend cut my hair for me a week ago, felt amazing
went from past my shoulder at longest to wher eit is now, i'm euphoric
wintry monolith
I'm gonna haaaate it whenever the fuck we have to go back in the office
chilly river
Yeah, I'm lucky to be a natural blonde, so I usually don't mess with bleach myself.
wintry monolith
Was still in full femme presenting mode last year when my coworkers saw me
Not gonna be able to do that again
clever fog
oh no so valid
wintry monolith
Went from like. Armpit length? To one inch all over, at least mostly. The process was so much fun
The random hair splinters from what the broom didn't catch, not so much T-T
It's still weird to me that my hair isn't wavy at all now that it's short lol
Used to curl like hell when it was waist length
Was wavy around shoulder length
And now flat
XD
clever fog
your hiar curls more when it's longer? i mean obviously there's a benchmark at which point it no longer curls, but my hair is curly AF longer than an inch, and then it subdues to waves as it gets longer
half the reason i cut it all so short was for more powerful curls! and the other half was i hate hair on my neck - it's above the lower hairline on the back of my head
wintry monolith
Can't find pics now, but yep
Poor middle school Raven, lol
Puberty changed hair from straight to wavy/curly, I'd had no idea, and kept brushing it, and ended up with triangle hair
That yearbook photo was so cringe
chilly river
I feel that. I used to shower daily, and my poor hair was just... nothin but frizz.
iron escarp
i've dyed my hair green before and now its pink
im pretty sure my hair will die next time i get bored with a colour
because the reason i dyed my hair green is because i was hyperobsessing over beetlejuice the musical
and now the reason why my hair is pink also relates to a different hyperfixation too
surreal willow
I have been dying my hair for 3 years ❤️
Only tried different shades of red, purple and pink tho
iron escarp
i also had black/dark blue hair for like a full year i think
full mango
I like dayeing my hair, now ive run out of unnatral colours i think im gonna try a natral red
surreal willow
I am scared to try blue hair cause one time, my purple faded into a greenish colour😢
So i can't imagine how blue fades
iron escarp
i mean it likely becomes lighter over time
its not normal for colours to fade into different ones unless you've dyed it before and there's still dye in your hair in that previous colour
i think anyway
wicked jungle
if your hair is naturally darker your bleached hair would be more yellow making the faded blue more turquoise
full mango
Its quite normal for it to fade into diffrent colours
iron escarp
oh! thats actually pretty interesting
my hair is brown but i've not had colours fade to different ones over time
full mango
it depends on how theyve made up the dye and how well the parts stick to your hair
surreal willow
My hair is dark brown😅
full mango
oof, you gotta bleach it firsts
surreal willow
Yeah, I bleach it everytime, but sometimew doesn't work as well😅☺️
iron escarp
i mean you have to for most hair colours if you want vibrant colors
maybe you need a harsher one?
or it needs to sit longer
full mango
I have a similar problem but my hair is natrually blond, however it is both thick and greasy so dye doesnt alwasy stick well
or at all
wicked jungle
i tried 3 different blue dyes my bleached hair (although my naturl isnt THAT dark) was insanely ramen-noudle-yellow so it faded first from ultramarine purpleish blue to a cyan then turquoise and then just pale green ._.
surreal willow
For example, I bleached my hair last week and it worked well, I have pastel pink hair right now.
But sometimes it ended up patchy, I definitely had good and bad experiences 😂
wicked jungle
really miss my blue hair but it really f'cked up my natural hair, i switched over to wigs just gotta find the time to correct their colors to be more vibrant
wintry monolith
Wigs look like so much fun
iron escarp
they are but they can be heck to style right
wicked jungle
half-half
it's easier to access every area of the hair since you can style it on a wig holder/head
but if it's not human hair then it's harder to find the right temperature for curling/straightening irons and other wig styling products that wont react to the fake hair material
and if it's human hair it's expensive
but you can at least dye those yourself easily 😩
wintry monolith
O.O
Goodness
Heat tools scare me ngl
I'm already accident prone
I'd be one sneeze away from seriously hurting myself bc I'm a multi sneezer
wicked jungle
multi sneezer o.o
tbf tho i have never in my life used a heating tool other than the hairdryer and even that gadget scares me - however the website where i got my wigs from already offered them pre straightened and pre curled so i am fine with just braiding them and putting little beads on strands however i like ^^
wintry monolith
multi sneezer o.o
Yeah on those once in a blue moon rare occasions I sneeze only once I don't trust it. I normally sneeze rapid fire like 5 or 6 times. 😆
The most common first reation from people is staring and a "Are you.....okay?"
clever fog
thank you!!! it's good dye young narwhal, i STRONGLY recommend good dye young
pearl sleet
Gorgeous!
iron escarp
thats such a pretty colour
wicked jungle
when your hair is the color of magical lagoons
clever fog
thank you all so muhc 
hidden inlet
Yo that's so pretty wtf.
People on this server keep proving me wrong on non-natural hair colours and how pretty that actually can be.
pearl sleet
tfw you forget sometimes that youre nonbinary now
clever fog
tfw you forget sometimes that youre nonbinary now
oh valid, welcome to the nbi squad
pearl sleet
ayeee
chilly river
*waves in agender*
wicked jungle
*wobbles in definitively on the nb spectrum*
chilly river
XD
wintry monolith
Occasionally, the gender fluids are shaken, not stirred. 😆
Like those colored water/oil toys
wicked jungle
you stir the gender fluids?
earnest mirage
wintry monolith
_you stir the gender fluids?_
you think I have any control over this?
wicked jungle
actually i did think so
wintry monolith
These are the thingies I was thinking of lol
wintry monolith
Right?
wicked jungle
omg i want one
wintry monolith
My childhood psychiatrist had a variety on their desk as fidgets. It was fantastic
Looks like they're called liquid timers?
wicked jungle
timers o.o
wintry monolith
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wicked jungle
i only remember seeing them in the yearly market at the childrens toys and accessories stand
the pink blue one just seems to count the time when you're feeling female and when male 😂
chilly river
Those things are so wonderfully zen, and I need one.
median oak
We sell those where I work. I see them all the time.
iron escarp
oh my god i havent seen those things in forever
left breach
iron escarp
so like idk if it would fit in arts and crafts or smth but i was looking for modelling inspo for a 3d assignment we're starting on at art school
like i saw this architexture and i swear i will find a way to make like a mermaid cove or smth like if i can manage to model smth like this in a way that makes sense for the assignment
iron escarp
i mean its found in places like barcelona spain apparently
so it being water themed in and of itself makes sense
the roofs on some of them even look like scales
waxen hare
aaa thats so beautiful!!
surreal willow
I visited that place, it's so pretty, the inside as well!! Definitely worth it if you visit Barcelona.
Casa Battlo by Gaudi 💜
surreal willow
like i saw this architexture and i swear i will find a way to make like a mermai...
The roof is shaped like the back of a dragon so while not a mermaid cove, it might be a dragon hideout place🤔🐲
iron escarp
or a sea serpent could also work
surreal willow
Oh true!!
iron escarp
i am looking for something alternative though
just because gaudi's stuff is not that easy to model in blender with my level of experience
or well things that look like it
surreal willow
Yeah, understandable😅 Looks difficult
iron escarp
especially in terms of mosaic texture variations
though i have found several tutorials for the kind of stained glass i want
surreal willow
Good luck with your assignment, hopefully you find the right inspo
wicked jungle
that man just said "screw yalls one-texture straight houses" and i live for it
iron escarp
that man just said "screw yalls one-texture straight houses" and i live for it
he sure did
hidden inlet
I spotted the Pride flag flying high in one of the game trailers
pure oxide
yep!
hidden inlet
I'm so happy that we are being represented in the game 🥰
tepid yew
i figured I can post this because it is more of a constructive criticism for the future. regardless of whether or not Coral Island meant to make that post, a lot of non-binary and trans friends felt that it was offensive.
i believe in Coral Island and i was happy to be a backer. but we were very excited to have facial hair cosmetic in the alpha release before finding out it was a "joke". this tweet has yet to be addressed.
if you want to know why it's offensive, it's as simple as this: joking about ones' appearance is never okay. taunting a diverse cast while making jokes about said diversity is never okay.
i understand that the people that work on coral island are indonesian- but it is not an excuse. i am a trans indonesian person and seeing tweets that make fun of, regardless of the intention, is hurtful. people are beautiful whether or not you choose to have facial hair.
i understand that not every trans person will resound or agree with what I'm saying, however, I have the right to express my own opinions and hopefully have communicated it well enough, without malice. i still believe and hold out hope that the tweet is addressed rightfully, and that this opens up a conversation about trans rights.
thank you so much for reading through this, I have no doubts that the mods and devs will read this and understand.
tweet in question: https://twitter.com/coralislandgame/status/1377578888285495304?s=19
ashen rose
i figured I can post this because it is more of a constructive criticism for the...
absolutely agree with this.
it felt like being told "hey look! you can finally have representation that you never get in other games!!" and then having it snatched away and laughed at 💔 truly does feel like we're being used as the butt of a joke. i can definitely understand that it wasn't the intention, but it would be nice to have this acknowledged as it was hurtful to a lot of people
kind of like- april fools! women / nonbinary people with facial hair don't actually get to be represented in our game! honestly even cis women with conditions like pcos have expressed that it would have been really validating for them but were hurt by it being a joke... it just feels very thoughtless for a game that is very open and proud of their diversity
idle bane
I didn't want to be The Person To Bring it Up™ but I agree, I felt that the joke was in bad taste
pearl sleet
I think that it would be relatively obvious that it was a joke
And it definitely wasnt their intention to hurt anyone
I can see how you folks got hurt, but the truth is that it was just genuinely a joke, not inteded to make fun of women or other genders with facial hair
Its also been brought up before in #🤝coral-feedback and it isnt the most productive conversation to have
idle bane
Just a joke can still be in bad taste
pearl sleet
so id ask that we stop here since no one is going to get anything out of this
other than frustration
ashen rose
it's fair to express that we've been hurt, even if it was intended to be a joke. and it's also fair to expect that our hurt be acknowledged. just because things are jokes doesn't mean that it can't be harmful and hurtful
pearl sleet
i understand that but these types of conversations often leave people frustrated
im not trying to invalidate your hurt at all
i understand it
its just...well, doesnt make for the best conversation
ashen rose
so you're asking us to not express or discuss what has upset us and to just internalise it instead? /gen
hidden inlet
The joke was in poor taste, I agree, but you have to understand that they are trying their best to help trans/non-binary and LGBTQIA+ in general to be represented in their game. They even pay attention to small details like the option for Mx. as an option for honorifics. This joke was insensitive but they weren't trying to make fun of anyone.
dark patio
Please understand that by posting it in here, you're not likely to have the devs see it. What's going to happen is your fellow lgbtq folks are going to see it and are going to have their own takes on the situation, whether agreeing or disagreeing. It's not going to get the response I think you're looking for, because I don't think you're looking for that from the right people.
We're not asking you to "just internalize it," Jack was telling you it has been brought up before and directing to the channel where it could be brought up again, if you feel like you'd like to.
ashen rose
i understood jack's message as saying that it had already been talked about and dismissed in that channel- i understand that i may have interpreted that incorrectly and i apologise for that.
hidden inlet
If this was posted on a Monday it could just be a "Mustache Monday" kind of thing
pearl sleet
it was an aprils fool joke, indicated by the post date
hidden inlet
I can't find the original post so I can't confirm
hidden inlet
it was an aprils fool joke, indicated by the post date
Oh
Then ya
April fools maybe?
dark patio
It was intended to be an April Fools joke, yes.
ashen rose
the phrase "it isnt the most productive conversation to have" was confusing to me- i'm not neurotypical so it came across to me as telling me that it shouldn't be discussed anywhere at all
hidden inlet
I don't know, but I am not trans/non-binary so I have no right to say that you shouldn't be offended
idle bane
It was an April Fool's joke, which unfortunately carries the connotation of "haha isn't this funny because it's a ridiculous" which is what I take issue with.
I think it would actually be really cool to include facial hair as a non gender locked customization option
dark patio
Though I think it may be helpful if someone who was genuinely affected by the joke brought it up, since last time it was a vague, third hand "I saw someone say they saw people getting offended" which is not something that gives a lot of room to move forward.
hidden inlet
so im sorry if my intentions were misunderstood
same
Sorry if I sounded annoyed or offensive
pearl sleet
i have a hard time phrasing my thoughts properly
dark patio
It was an April Fool's joke, which unfortunately carries the connotation of "hah...
They may include facial hair as a non gender locked customization option for our characters. I'm not entirely sure, because I haven't been following that particularly closely.
pearl sleet
so i often get misunderstood bc im just bad at english
ashen rose
so is the best place to discuss things like this the feedback-suggestions channel? i'm not very good with discord so it was very confusing as to where things should be posted. my assumption was that the lgbtq channel was the place to mention anything related to lgbtq issues or feedback
pearl sleet
that was an incorrect assumption, sadly
dark patio
The lgbtq channel is the place where we lgbtq folks come and hang out, really.
pearl sleet
#🤝coral-feedback is the best place for it
what i meant by all that i said was that that channel was a better place to place your feelings, rather than here, since the devs dont look here
i apologize if i came across as anything else
that genuinely was not my intention
ashen rose
oh, okay. that makes a lot more sense. it felt like you were saying that because it had been already mentioned there i shouldn't discuss it at all. i understand now though! thank you for clearing that up for me
idle bane
They may include facial hair as a non gender locked customization option for our...
I'm not sure what the character creation process looks like at this moment either, but I think that requesting something like that would be a good way to move forward from the joke
And personally, I'm using this channel to get feedback from people/a community I trust before moving into the wild west of presenting an idea to cishet gamers
hidden inlet
Do you guys also feel like you are the only one of yourself in the world? Like sometimes I feel alone as a gay man in a world made for straight people.
ashen rose
i'm not great with words either so it's okay 🙂
pearl sleet
well thank you for being understanding and patient
ashen rose
no problem- i tend to have difficulties with communication so i definitely want to make sure i understand what's intended by messages
pearl sleet
same
hidden inlet
It's hard talking online, I'm not used to it
pearl sleet
i constantly have to ask if my friends are being serious or not
hidden inlet
Ya
pearl sleet
bc i cant tell and i accidentally hurt a friend once bc i thought we were joking and he was being serious
so i make extra sure these days
dark patio
I'm not sure what the character creation process looks like at this moment eithe...
You could suggest that in the feedback channel, if you'd like. I know people here do try to make this server a welcoming place, even if there are screw ups at times, so I think you'd be pretty safe suggesting that. Even if someone was rude, they usually get shut down pretty quick.
pearl sleet
and im sure they get annoyed by my constant asking but its just genuinely difficult to tell sometimes
ashen rose
it's hard! especially over the internet. i started using tone indicators like /gen and stuff a bit more to try and make it easier to understand
pearl sleet
what does gen mean
dark patio
Tone Indicators!
/j = joke
/hj = half joke
/s = sarcastic
/srs = serious
/p = platonic
/r = romantic
/l or /ly = lyric
/t = teasing
/nm = not actually mad or upset
/nc or /neg = negative connotation
/pc or /pos = positive connotation
/lh = light hearted
/nbh = nobody here (for when you're vauging someone in a vent)
/m = metaphorically
/li = literally
/ij = inside joke
/rh or /rt = rhetorical question
/gen or /g = genuine question or genuine
/hyp = hyperbole
/c = copypasta
/sx or /x = sexual intent
/nsx or /nx = non-sexual intent
/th = threat
/cb = clickbait
/f = fake
ashen rose
it's a lot lol so i only use some of them
pearl sleet
that slightly startled me
dark patio
Haha, I was already going and retrieving these when you asked, the timing just worked out.
pearl sleet
oh okay
i thought you were lightning fast lmao
holy shit that actually startled me
im a little shook
ashen rose
i was like WOW i couldnt even switch tabs to search them before you posted that
dark patio
I have them pinned in another server because they're helpful
pearl sleet
lemme grab some tea
i overreact emotionally a lot
...its a
problem
Life is a stage, and I am a star! as I say
dark patio
I'm a very sarcastic person sometimes and I enjoy the use of "/s" to be sure people know I'm not being outright rude.
dark patio
i'm bad with tone over text myself and I might not remember all the tone markers myself if i'm not looking at the list, I can try to make sure I use the one most likely to be applicable to my text
pearl sleet
nod
I try to use them when I can
I forget a lot lol
I genuinely have a bad memory
ashen rose
i had tone markers saved on my computer so i could remember them but then i had to factory reset my computer and i lost them so i keep forgetting now 😦
pearl sleet
oh no
dark patio
i was using emojis for a while as my tone markers but realizing people use different emojis differently kinda screwed that over for me
ashen rose
oh it's so cute and soft!!
dark patio
I have a rainbow heart in my server with my boyfriend to properly express just how gay i am for him, and then i edited that into this emoji 😘 so it's a rainbow heart
pearl sleet
aw
dark patio
and those are probably two of my most used
![https://lp2.hm.com/hmgoepprod?set=quality[79]%2Csource[%2F61%2Fec%2F61ec53aeb324a8ac8e71478f8d588a9241fb580f.jpg]%2Corigin[dam]%2Ccategory[]%2Ctype[DESCRIPTIVESTILLLIFE]%2Cres[m]%2Chmver[1]&call=url[file:/product/main]](https://lp2.hm.com/hmgoepprod?set=quality%5B79%5D%2Csource%5B%2F61%2Fec%2F61ec53aeb324a8ac8e71478f8d588a9241fb580f.jpg%5D%2Corigin%5Bdam%5D%2Ccategory%5B%5D%2Ctype%5BDESCRIPTIVESTILLLIFE%5D%2Cres%5Bm%5D%2Chmver%5B1%5D&call=url%5Bfile:/product/main%5D){kind=link}
dark patio
And then he put this one in the server which isn't an emoji i use much but it is one of my fave characters so he found it for me
dark patio
soft loving kermit is so good
pearl sleet
