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The umbrella box optical illusions are super neat
Brand spankin new
The hand flags as well
It has been two and a half hours.
I have gained one hour on download
Pray for me, y'all, I need the power of the gays
Oh nooo
🙏
We had terribad internet at our last place
I know the feeling
We had 2 down 1 up.
Fuck, I feel that. I remember being a kid and thinking it was pure magic.
God, what would that make me. 🤣
According to teenagers everyone over 20 might as well retire
If only
UBI-paycheck lifestyle when.
I'm pretty sure I burned an assignment onto a disc for school in 2016
Recorded presentations are ass
It's wild that they don't eben know what it is anymore
I remember borrowing a library book on how to understand Russian and it had a CD with spoken segments in it. Copied that. That's all I think I did myself.
Senior high school in Australia was a simpler time
The fact that some people don't even know you can pirate things anymore???? Or how to do it?????? Or think it's morally wrong?????????
Like please how do you live like that I pirate EVERYTHING
Pirating has never been more punk
Like I get the argument against it, but the people saying it's stealing is just dishonest. As if me torrenting a video game deletes the files of the company.
Remember the adds at the theatre about how you wouldn't steal a car
You know it's not theft, it's copying. Chill.
burning and ripping CDs were key skills in my childhood...
Like that was the same thing as pirating a movie xD
Like do you just....... Wait a year and a half until the season gets released in your country with a shitty dub¿¿¿¿¿
I would in fact download a pizza
I would torrent a mercedes tho.
If I could download a car I would bitch tf
3D print a car
I mean I can't drive anyway xD
As a law student I should probably add a disclaimer that I enjoy all my content at my friend "trusted vpn" and "torrent"s houses
Fair actually. I don't have my license.
'can't drive' gays united
I'd rather use public transport and skip on the gas/electricity and road tax. not to mention the upkeep
Omg wait do we have the same friends??
Hahahahaah Shi xD
It's crazy how they get around
When I live in Berlin I don't drive either, public transport is just so good and convenient in big cities
I mean it's not even a matter of good public transport
But atm I live with my parents again and we have a second small car and it's basically mine, public transport here isn't greeeeat
It's just a matter of survival xD
Ahahaha
This. So hard.
Driving in Paris is a death wish
Feral bikes everywhere, people crossing boulevards like it's a pedestrian streets
Christ, I went past berlin on a class trip, your infrastructure is insane.
Oh god I have to take the trash out
Yeah I'm too scared to drive in big cities too LMAO
The amount of times I have almost been run over by a bike visiting the Netherlands 😶
😎
Do y'all have the same problems with sport bikers? 😒
Bikes are lawless savages
No y'all are just insane LMAO i love y'all but MY GOD
Honestly, I get it. Amsterdam Central Station is fucking chaos during rush hour.
Our cyclists also have a death wish but yours are just evil and don't care whats in their way
Can't see where you're supposed to cycle and where you're supposed to walk because everyone just goes everywhere.
No cuz at least those use helmets and neon clothing, I have issues with the people who bike with their kids in the busy ass streetd with no gears, no lights, no neon clothing and absolutely NO respect for traffic laws
I mean, no respect for traffic laws sounds almost universal for sport bikers.
We used to get sport bikers on our equestrian lanes
Every single time I felt like throwing a tree at them
Racing down the lane at full tilt not announcing themselves or slowing down when coming near horses when they're on our lanes.
One of them dead ass yelled at me to move out of the way. Stopped at the side of the road, turned around to see him, 20 meters away from me, making a beeline for my bike. After knocking into it, he had the gal to call me various sexist and ableist slurs I will not repeat as I do not want to get banned and told me to watch the road.
🙃 Like, bruh, I was off the road. You watch your damn self.
We're taught to stand as close to the sidewalk as we possibly can if we wanna turn right cause cyclists will try to squeeze past you if there are even 10cm of space between your car and the sidewalk. Death wish i tell you
I'm okay, no worries. I was more surprised at how absurd the situation was than scared or offended.
Bruhhhhh whyyyyy are people like that
That and I knew that skinny twink wasn't gonna do shit. 🤣
Oh yeah stopping at a red light's an alien concept too, or indicating where you're turning
Sometimes they just decide to turn left into oncoming traffic like 😀 do you want to die this badly. There are less messy ways
I had a cyclist stop at a pedestrian crosslane to let me walk past and I legit gawked at her for a couple seconds, I was so shocked xD
There's people who clean up scenes like that after their death. Like, are you for real? We're gonna be a drain on society even in death now, are we?
Yeah but insurance money if you get ran over
Well, an asshole in life, and asshole in death...
I have a perfect quote for this but it's untranslatable
Pain
Stupid english
I mean, yeah.
I get pain too dw Trin xD
My response every time my cell phone rings: https://youtu.be/KTc3PsW5ghQ?t=144
The Martians try communicating with a telephone -- without much success. Yip-yip-yip-yip.
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Friends does anyone happen to know of good EU based binder companies? GB works too i guess but EU would be preferred
Not sure, sorry
HAHAHA sorry all i saw was "pain" and you "I get that" xD
What can I say, except "Pain is just relatable".
Why must mermaids be so pretty and appeal to my type. I like the ocean and I like women and someone had the bright idea to put them together and I melt like the lesbian I am
Mermaid Rafael got me quaking too, ngl.
i fully relate with both of these things 😆
I tried to re-write the lyrics to fit a girl who is stuck in an unsupportive household but still finds a way to love her girl anyways. hmmmmm gay.
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Godddd I love eiry she's so damn good 😭
I've cried to her catradora songs many many times
Also for my critters she released a beauyasha song last week and it obliterated me
Same omg
it's SO pretty
Her gay jolene cover????? Ma'am
Yos
she has such a nice voice!!!
Is anyone doing camp nanowrimo next month?
My cousin usually does, and i always think about it but never commit. I haven't written anything in such a long time, idk what I would even do
😅 i haven't successfully completed it since i was in high school but i'm trying again this year
Camp was more fun with the old website.
I kind of like it being part of the main website now
oh is nano in april? i might try it again this year, i always try it but never can complete it lol
so there's "camp nano" in both april and july (and i think there's a scriptwriting specific one at some point) and camp nano is like nanowrimo lite™
you can set your own goal and it's less strict about you have to start and finish the project within the month
for instance my goal is just 20k of the novel that i've been working on
and tbh i don't think im gonna complete that goal (it's a little over 700 words a day, which is a bit much for me)
I was debating about it, I only made it like, halfway through NaNo last year :/
I went through a long period w/o writing and am getting back into the swing of things finally.
I’ve been thinking of doing NaNo this time around! After I started thinking of publishing, I actually wrote less because it felt like I wasn’t just writing what I wanted/writing for fun. I want to start just writing for fun again
I love this
HIM
I am partial to the bear I have to say I love him
But the shark is absolutely fantastic
My gf wants the bear lol
I Also got the pig
Might get the bear for her and the panda for me next time
I have one of these at home 😄
I LOVE HIM!!
Biiiiiig
The best thing about leaving your shitty ex is that you get to keep the apology gifts.
That and the healing, I guess
I have a Cthulhu plush about that big I think
Still sorry to hear that :(
It's okay. I'm fine now. Honestly, I spend more time joking about it than dwelling on it. 🙂
Well that's good to hear
Cthulhu plushies exist?
my god I need one right this instant
Yes and you can make your own if you know how to crochet
I heard crochet 👀
that is absurdly cute.
I just finished crocheting a dice pouch actually
I'm also doing a blanket, I'm still struggling a bit lol
oh nice !
if you need any help don't hesitate to ask 😄
not an expert or anything but sometimes an extra pair of eyes helps
I keep going back to baby cross stitching lol
I have made sevral
those are so cute
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE THINGS THIS CUTE.
Oh those are EXCELLENT
also yeah I can't help with that Mags 🤣
Oh God, I love the second one. What was that game called again?
I remember finishing it in like two days.
Night in the woods, one of my faves
God, I loved that. Hit me right at the peak of an existential crisis, so it helped me out so much.
Yeah it does hit pretty hard lol
That and I could really feel Mae during the scene on the couch.
I found Gregg more relatable but the whole thing is pretty😭
I liked him, but I liked Bea more.
Bit rude in the beginning, but honestly, I get it.
Yeah, I suppose I preferred the "fun" but also actually still oooof route
I tried to placate both, but apparently, it just flipped to Bea.
Soundtrack also slaps lol
I know right? God, I love it.
Honestly, the darker bits were my favorites. Probably because of the contrast between the wholesome, nice moments and the dark, real moments.
Yeah, that's what makes it real I guess
It's like you're used to the cute, wholesome moments and then wham severed arm.
o my gosh i love embroidery!!! 
Might be an unpopular opinion but I kinda see it as the good version of life is strange lol
we do be enjoyin gay hobbies over here 
Nothing but facts here.
Thxxx
I just think (at least in the first one) the writing in life is strange is awful
i embroidered a seal, a fox and a hedgehog but idk if i took pics before i gave them to my pals 😭
Yeah. I didn't like the first one and its expansions. The second game was pretty dope tho.
I also didn't like the art style lol
Still nice!
I didn't mind it, but the lip syncing was just... 😦
Was the original voice work French ?
Lemme check, because that would make sense.
God I hated the characters lol
I Only said because I vaguely remember the developer being French
I can't find anything about it, but yeah. Lip syncing wouldn't even be a massive con compared to the ending.
Won't spoil.
But shit.
I had to get my gf to tell me lol
Glad I didn't make it
I've never really enjoyed the style of game besides until dawn
I love the style, but I hate how they did it.
I don't think they're bad, they just don't grab me since I never think my decisions actually matter
I suppose it's a bitch to write for
Although Pyre did a really good job I think of player decisions with the writing
I mean, that's all on them, tho. They marketed the game saying you can change even the past.
Super giant games are a blessing lol
Another thing, I felt like changing your decisions removed the significance of them
I can't really say what I want to say, because it links to the ending. 😐
Dm?
I liked Life is strange for the biggest part but... it piled on too much drama towards the end. Just... too much in my opinion
Sorry if I seemed like I was being overly callous about it, I can understand that others might like it or parts of it
it wasn't but the dialogues were written by french guys (the company dontnod is french, so a lot of it is eerr, a bit wonky, as you'd expect from grown french men trying to write american teen girl slang xD)
the original dubbing however is in english
yeah that'll be why
it's really cute when you're familiar with french slang cuz a lot of it is somewhat similar ? In ways I can't even being to explain lest I start writing a thesis about translation 🤣
it's quite clumsy, but I for one love the lis franchise
I think they had bold ideas and asked interesting question, though obviously one may be more or less sold on the execution
they really tried to go for something different and think outside the box, and I can at the very least respect and appreciate that
Yeah, it's good if they're trying to evolve their concepts with the newer games
Yaaaay, a chat room for us !
Looking back at teen me wanting to do a Chrona cosplay bc ambiguous gender makes so much sense as an adult now lmao
FMA Envy as well
Muscle goals as hell lol. And with that top you could absolutely use a short binder and 
Someday goals, for sure
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Hella is my favourite thing from that game, i used it SO much xD
ain't that hella true xD
Also you’re going with chaos dad lady now? 😂
I go wherever the wind brings me, Plomin ;)
I could be chaos lady dad
Or dad chaos lady
Or Dad.
Ik it was just a joke thing to wake me up from my nap but my husband slapped me and I'm... extreme flashbacks to when I was younger and my 'friend' slapped me, I'm not okay
Thank you
Imma say as a hetereosexual cis normative person I struggle a lot with empathy for my friends when they talk about their struggles as lgbtq+ I wanna thank everyone here for being so awesome and open cause you've been helping me open my eyes more with the subtly ways games and society can impact us
(Empathy I mean, not just feeling empathy but understanding a lot of the related logic involved which I need cause I struggle with emotions in general)
Thanks !
Fair enough lol
I love that for you 😂❤️
Lol saw that one like 20 minutes ago
Mood
mr aragorn 🥺 💖
Turns out I look good in beanies
it's a queer trait, we all look good in beanies and flannel shirts
how do u do fellow gays 
sup?
not much just procrastinatin my uni work
what about u!!
updating mods for startdew valley, waiting until my boyfriend is done with zine check-ins so we can watch bnha
I completely forgot that there was a new season out 😭 until my boyfriend reminded me—
i knew it was coming but i didn't realize it was today until my boyfriend saw it was out
Yeah, I got so caught up with attack on titan that I completely forgot about bnha..
Reminder that Bioware did a good with Krem.
I have only one complaint with Krem and that’s just that I wish there would have been a trans guy voice actor for him
Yes, but I think Jennifer Hale did a good job regardless.
She did, I agree, it’s just a “would have been nice”
Same, that would've been great :/ I wish more trans actors would get to voice trans characters, I feel like that doesn't happen very often
Wasn't the nb character in she-ra voiced by an nb person ?
Yes
Jewelstar in it is also voiced by a trans man
Yup!! That's the only show I can think of where they actually did that though
I mean.. also in the last of 2.. Lev is voiced by a trans man.
Same. The hate they got was overrated.
Abby and Lev were probably the best characters lol. I thought that Ellie didn't have a very good arc and didn't really develop much as a character
Not going to say that I enjoyed the second game, but I mean it had good aspects to it, and game-play was overall alright.
I wish there was more combat lol, even though the game wants me to feel bad about killing it was by far the most fun part of the game
Yeah, they did Ellies story arc so wrong, they made her into this character that was just so dull.. and she was my fave from the first game.. I don't like how they pushed abbys arc, since the whole thing was about joel and ellie.. and we didn't even get a minute with Joel.
The flashbacks seemed like a last minute idea to add characterisation
And we played most of the game as Abby, they tried to make us feel sorry for her, but I couldn't lol
Yeah, I get what you mean by the combat was lacking.. I felt like I was just walking most of the game, and sitting through scenes I didn't care about.
Tbh I cared more about Abby since ellie never really gave me a reason to care about her for most of the game
Yeah that's the thing.. no one cared for Ellie, cause we didn't get much Ellie.. all her story was is to get revenge for Joel, and when it comes down for that she ends up 'losing'
And they just did her so wrong.. she could have settled down with Dina, and helped raise that Kid, but no.. she just had to go find Abby, and not even achieve what she went to do.
I hate that she only spares Abby as a spur of the moment thing, it really should've been a gradual forgiveness, the last fight in the water was so stupid to me
That's what baffled me the most.. Abby bit of your fingers now you can't play the guitar, woe to you Ellie.
I Also found Dina a bit two faced lol
It was weird how they put that pseudo open world section at the start when it never happens again later
Dinas character was flawed, but I kinda was still rooting for Ellie having a love interest, since we all know how her first two went.
And the game had nothing to do with being in a zombie apocalypse... but humans killing humans, great.
Do you remember that one resident evil knock off boss lol
Lmfao don't get me started on that one, what on earth were they thinking
I literally felt like I was playing a resident evil game, but not that it was doing any justice.
Yeah, I feel like that annoyed me the most, that every corner you turned you'd get attacked from behind, and DEAD
Last of us 2 - "just go and play the resi 2 remake you'll have more fun honestly" would be a good slogan
I mean thats what took away the spark from the game.. the zombies just being ones we've seen before already.. that's why I liked the first one, because at least those zombies were like 'holy shit, what now'
But yeah them being carbon copies of what we get in other games, not so intriguing.
The zombies were boring as hell to fight compared to the humans
Lmfao went through the game thinking the humans were scarier than the actual clickers.
The "innovation" was more annoying ones to fight like the gassy boy and the resident evil reject
Was hoping to see Mr X pop out of nowhere and be like 'wasssup'
Mr x punching me in the face would have been a more interesting story beat
Maybe ellie could have stolen his hat
Kinda funny how much fun humans are to kill with how the game wants you to feel bad about it
Lol at this point they should have invited thanos to the party too..
I feel sorry for no one in that game.. It made me never want to preorder a big hit game again. ]
Ellie gets her smash invitation from Abby at the end of the game
Although, I like the representation, and how Lev was voiced by a trans man.. that's all I truly liked.
Her ultimate is resenting joel for years just for melodrama
Yeah
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so turns i was lied to my fellow gays
my rootin tootin cowgirl hat
isnt a rootin tootin cowgirl hat
its actaully
a crikey outback hat
Does it have corks lol
Guys pls be careful about game spoilers for those of us who haven't played yet
Wait when did I come out, this year or last
I may just be rlly late to the game
Ignore me
June 19th 2020
oh yeah I'm just rlly late ignore me
No worries
I'm playing that recently
It's very pretty
Lol you don't remember that the story got leaked before we could even play it.
Someone from the games development team leaked the game.
Yeah
Yeppp deff, abby got lots of undeserved hate🤷🏻♀️
Oh no a non conventionally attractive woman, this doesn't sit will with the gamerz
So many people were saying stuff like woman can't be muscular lol
Yepp, the girl that lent(sp) abbys face got loads of hate for the character too🙄
In the same subject but different character, i remember they released a poison ivy statue and she was more muscular and they were complaints about her "not being sexy enough"
That's pretty terrible
Laura Bailey got death threats too
Yeah, I'll never understand the reason why someone would send death threats to an actor
Some people are just unhinged I guess
I don’t think it’s the matter that she wasn’t deemed attractive, because I mean Ellie was also tomboyish— it’s just the fact that insert first part of the game here
No people did complain about how she looked too lol
I think the first part of the game was used as an excuse to hate her
I mean she’s got muscle but that’s about it.. she was working out, and i mean you’re bound to have a little muscle as a woman living in that sort of environment. I didn’t like abbys character because of what happened to my favorite character 😭
At first I hated Abby and then I wanted her to win lol
I don’t understand people who play games for the attractive woman and when they’re not attractive they forget the actual story
Same lol
Yeah you wanted her to win because they showed her sad back story.. I still couldn’t feel sorry for her.
Not even that tho.
I Also wanted her to win because she had a far more valid cause/reason then ellie did
They both had sad backstories and I felt more for Ellie, but I just had more respect for the growth she had vs the growth ellie had.
The only characters I felt sorry for was Lev, and that guy that died without meeting his child
I think remembering him as "that guy" kinda shows how interesting of a character he was lol
I stopped feeling sorry for Ellie, ||because she killed all abbies friends just not to kill Abby||
After she had about 100 bodies on her conscience, I just got bored and was like "Is this really worth it? :/"
Lol he wasn’t interesting.. but it just goes to show how I valued none of the other characters xD
Like, at least Abby did what dhe needed to do and dipped.
One thing I found funny about Abby was her realisation of "hmmm is genocide bad?"
Baby steps.
An actually interesting and believable character
Who was Bill again?
The gay man from 1, he helps you get a car and stuff
Oooh. Yeah he's pretty cool.
Much better writing
But hey, at least in 2 they scream each other's names when they die lol
Seemed more gimmicky then compelling lol
At least we got spiritfarer
HAHAHAHA.. now that’s comedic relief at its finest
?
Never played that game before
And screaming each other names when you die.. I mean— that sounds like something out of a movie, but I guess that’s the whole vibe they were going for.
It made me wonder if each npc had a specific name or if it would just pull a randomised name based on the model
Morning
Yo
hello!!
Greek mythology question
Is Aphrodite technically a titan?
Also are Medusa’s armpit hairs snakes?
I wouldn't say so
She's still a product of the titans
Some people don't lol
True
It's open to interpretation really
Although she is part of the main pantheon of Gods I guess
So personally I consider her a god
I don’t but also I accept typhon as inevitable
There’s this WEBTOON that I’ve been reading, and it’s to do with Greek mythology.. Aphrodite ended up falling for hades
All hail typhon
The art style is beautiful too
Hmm cool
Greek mythology is wack but I think that’s why I love it
Never quite understood it, but we had to do a lot of Greek mythology in school.
Yeah, kinda heard a lot of bad stuff about Zeus, but people put him on this high pedestal
hes v demonised tbh and he did some HORRIBLE stuff but thats also the kinda main message of the greek myths
like the gods are flawed like humans
Tbh my preferred age of Greek myth is when posidien was the main boy since
Aphrodite was a war goddess too <3
i love hades he just minds his own business and loves his wife and dog
And I love that
also dionysus what a fun guy
SHE WAS aphrodites so cool 
i feel so bad for hera
when ur the god of happy marriage but ur no good husband keeps havin affairs ✌️
Should’ve divorced
I’m sorry but I do be loving Greek mythology but they’re like a reality show
As someone who didn't look into Greek mythology, I'm definitely getting that vibe.
Also love Dionysus and Poseidon
Watching people discuss the Gods is like watching people talk about the characters of Real Housewives of [insert place here]. And I love it.
Keeping up with the demigods
Greek mythology in a nutshell:
"Zeus no!"
"ZEUS YES!"
Why did I read this in prozds Zeus voice
also artemis is a wlw ace queen 🥺 💖
Accurate lol
hello everyone 🙂
Hi
Hmm my therapist took my husbands side in the binder debate, that I just need to get a proper bra instead of a binder cause they think it's a confidence issue..
...Did they even ask you? ._.
Doesn't seem like a fair therapist lol
Does your therapist have any experience with lgbtq issues?
It really is your decision
Yes she does, she has a trans patient
no no no, no one can tell you what you do with your body 😦
They want me to try dressing like a girl first cause a binder will 'damage' things
Hm... I mean... does your therapist have a single other trans patient or do they have actual experience with lgbtq issues
I haven't been able to get one yet but I'm debating even getting one at this point cause it'll just piss my husband off
I'm trying to be delicate about this but... none of his business?
I'm sorry, but that kinda just reads to me like they're not really an therapist who has a focus with gender and sexuality
I'm just ahh directly back where I started feeling like I'm not allowed to be non-binary
Not to say that's bad, but it's sort of specialized, i guess? like no one person can know everything.
❤️
You don't need anyone's permission to be who you are.
giving love to you digi
No one can forbid you from being who you are.
Yeah shes a regular therapist first and foremost
And I don't mean "That's wrong." I mean, it's literally impossible.
Shes a great therapist tho she didn't try and push it or anything but just ahh
Thanks you guys
Get 👏 your 👏 binder 👏 and 👏 let 👏 them 👏 stay 👏 mad. 👏
I dont like people being mad at me though ahh
Most people don't and that's okay, but I'm worried you'll compromise on living as who you are just to avoid the ire of people who don't get it yet.
You know who you are. If anything, defying both your husband and your therapist in order to become who you are would show a high level of self-confidence.
I'm trying to be as gentle as possible, but it's a form of control for your spouse to basically say what you can and can't wear 😦
He's worried it will damage my chest tissue I guess
Okay, your responsibility.
There are safe ways of wearing binders, you only war them for short amounts of time, etc.
But ultimately, they're your breasts and it's up to you if you feel comfortable wearing the binder and taking care of yourself, and you're aware of the damage they -can- cause and are willing to deal with that if it becomes a thing
I am but I dont think he is even though it's my body
I mean... it's not his body though.
I mean, you can try to educate him and send him some links? He seems open to some level of learning at least.
So at the end of the day, it has to be what -you- are comfortable with, not him.
Just remember that it's ultimately your choice, not his.
Not to sound like an asshole, but you're young, and when you're young it's hard to be an advocate for yourself, especially with a partner, ESPECIALLY a partner who's that much older.
...And if you feel brave enough, communicate that as well. I'll be with you in spirit. ❤️
I'm really bad at advocating for myself tbh but we try and have as open communication as possible
Yeah, that's fair. I've had my fair share of experience with an older domineering guy.
Should I leave a server if someone in it really upset me
I think the best thing, regardless, is to say it's your choice, ultimately, and that as a partner equal to him, he should respect that.
how big is the server
and is it a server you otherwise enjoy
Pretty small
Yeah, I'll get the binder when I have the money then
could just block them and see how that goes, if you like being in the server otherwise
I do like it, but I'm pretty pissed and they're an active participant
Being gaslit is ass
is it a server that has mods?
Yep
maybe you can talk to one of them about the situation?
you can still talk to a mod privately about what's going on
If they are good mods, they'll listen to you regardless
my friend and I recently joined a server and saw someone was there who is banned from servers we run, and even though they haven't done anything here, we let the mods know so they can have a clearer view
One of the mods was kicked today for being toxic lol
oh yikes
The owner isn't very strict unless you're obviously a troll or a chaser
I'll just fall back on my trusted tactic of trust no one lol
hhh yikes
?
It sounds careless at best from an outside perspective, if I'm honest.
exactly
A bad server can have nice people
Lackluster moderation and the moderators that are there might not be the best for the job.
100%
but if people are getting to the position of mods who are toxic? that's worrying
I'm not talking about individual people, no worries. I'm sure they're lovely.
I see
You could message whoever you want to stay in contact with and throw up the deuces on your way out?
If the server is important to you, I've gotten great use out of the block button
The best part of discord's block feature is that you can still read posts you just have to make the active decision to click
I dunno, they're all kinda linked up
Still talking to the person who upset me to see how it was all my fault lol
... y tho
I don't know when to quit I guess
I liked the person a lot until now
Although I can sort of see it wasn't mutually beneficial now
But I guess I don't like throwing away work or friends
They're good at making me question myself too
I get that, but the way you described the situation, it doesn't sound like they were putting in the effort of a friend.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know the situation at all.
They claim to like me more then a friend but actively flirt with others in the discord lol
Euh... and they then act toxic to you and make you question yourself?
Well I said why do you only flirt with others after I said I wasn't comfortable with it
Sorry, my phone keyboard is bad
I get that. No worries. You're awesome for adding capital letters and punctuation still. 😛
Thanks!
They never listen to my feelings either
And when I try to they just try to make me feel bad about them
Ew wtf.
Doing it right now
Bruh, I thought I acted weird around my crushes.
(Tell me if bruh's uncomfortable, btw. It's kind of something I say all the time, but apparently some folk don't like it.)
Maybe poly isn't for me lol
@rose ice 1, a bra does not equal a binder what the fuck.
2, your body your choice, not your partner's.
3, Getting a Properly Sized binder (not too small and Never one of the one of the cheap ones you see on amazon, those CAN break ribs) and following the hard 8hour limit is fine.
I see it as pretty gender neutral
Same. Just wanted to make sure. 🙂
But yeah, poly-struggles or not, shaming you for your feelings isn't part of any healthy relationship.
Ahkay. But yeah, in this situation.
I thought the screenshot highlighted trying to make me feel bad
If you communicated yourself, I'd say that's that done. If they can't accept it...
🤷♀️ tough shit, I guess?
For them.
I just got "Maybe it would be best if we stopped Idk >~< We hurt each other so often :("
I'm pretty annoyed at "each other"
I get my head bitten off and called a manipulator for saying how I feel lol
I mean, it's only natural you want to trust your friends.
Kinda sucks when they do stuff like that then.
@fallow whale they sound like a narcissistic control freak to me but maybe I am wrong? :S
Yeah I'm getting one from gc2b(?) And I even emailed them my measurements to get the right size
I'm trying to not be sarcastic, but she dropped that line really quickly, it's almost comical.
Sounds right
It sucks because I liked her a lot, even just as a friend
I mean... is it that you liked her or that you liked the person you thought she was?
Hitting me with the sad ghost stickers now
Maybe that's fake-deep, but that question helped me a lot with these types of people.
True
Wh- How old is she, twelve?
20
I'm sorry, but this is just guilttripping.
UM.
:S
Excuse me, w h a t ?
ew
Σ('◉⌓◉’)
YIKES
I say flirting but it's just like "cuddley" shit in her defence, but it still makes me super uncomfortable
Like it's really drawn out
Okay, but... I've literally heard groomers use that excuse before they're caught red handed.
So is grooming. I-
Sorry, I'm kind of blindsided, but I feel like it would be the best to let the admin or a trustworthy mod know to at least covertly keep an eye on her.
The mods aren't active
Okay, well... fuck. 😐
Chat needs a hug
hugs
Think magic and digi especially but thanks.
Sounds like she did you a favor by saying 'let's stop this'
But there is loads of other examples
I mean, I'll be honest, I'm missing a lot of context here, but the ">:)" is vomit-inducing.
Probably more in dm I haven't seen
God that's so gross
She also went along with the idea of laying on the 17 year old
😐 In WHAT world is any of that something you should say to a 15 year old gdamn
If you're like 19 and flirting with 17 year olds, that's one thing. But like 20 and 15???
This was me calling her out about it
Bitch if a CHILD makes dumb comments like that towards you, AN ADULT, you shouldn't be reciprocating???? HELLO??????
Love her saying she's not literally following orders, completely side-stepping the "avoiding responsibility and pushing it on someone else" part.
God that whole "but they started it" thing pisses me off so bad
This is classic pedo shit.
Actually, soz, correcting myself. This is classic groomer shit.
I feel like I should've seen it sooner
Yeah, groomer tactics
It's okay. Grooming doesn't just happen on children. It happens to the adults near to them too.
you should not feel guilty for that. it's hard to see stuff like this
The kids in question are both trans and need a lot of help/very impressionable
They convince the adults they're trustworthy and just innocent too. It's not your fauly.
*fault
So I think they're at a higher risk
If any minors are reading this and adults act like this with you please, please, please run and never look back. I know it can be flattering to get attention from someone older than you but you WILL get hurt
It's way too common in discord servers and it's unacceptable
She acts like it's normal friend behaviour
Adding to this, if you feel like you're too mature to get manipulated, yours truly was manipulated at age 22. It's not an age thing, but it can influence it. It's okay to acknowledge that and leave.
she may well believe that, but it doesn't make it right
I Also find it strange that she didn't want anyone on the server to know that were dating after a fashion
Sure, be as physical with your friends as you want, I have absolutely nothing against that! But if you're going to be friends with minors as an adult you HAVE to set boundaries. You CANNOT treat children the way you treat people your age.
Well, there you have it, really.
You can be boundry-less and naive, and still cause irreperable harm to children. Going out on a limb here, but I feel like that would cause the most damage.
If you're someone who struggles with setting and enforcing boundaries you just shouldn't be friends with kids. It's that simple. If you still insist on being friends with kids like it's a necessity in life you're sus as fuck
Here's me losing my cool earlier
The fucking ":(" show it up your ass queen I hate people like this
There’s so many things wrong with that
She reminds me of my ex
I might've lost my temper too bad lol
I already know what you're rtping
N
Fucking nonapology
I knew it. Ew.
It's like saying "sorry for offending you" GRRRR
I had to put my foot down when someone older than me (I’m over 18) stayed in vc after trying to ship me with a minor. And I was not having it.
It's disgusting.
Idk
God nah gross ew
I want to leave the server but Idk about the kids
They had been doing it but then left vc soon after, so when they stuck around, I tried to put my foot down best as I could manage.
It’s unacceptable to try and ship people without knowing their age.
I'd say, reach out to them in private and keep in touch.
The 17 year old is already really tight with her
In general shipping real people is such a fucking no no, ESPECIALLY to their face??? Hello?????? Yikes
I think the 17 year old has a crush on her tbh
I’m sorry magic.. those messages just irked me.. and when you said she was 20 I cringed.
In general shipping real people is such a fucking no no, ESPECIALLY to their face??? Hello?????? Yikes
.. did you meet on discord?
Yep
She sounds like the typical.. “do not get involved with” type on discord
Catching up on this convo and dear god. I feel sick.
How do I say this... I've seen this happen from the perspective of a child before. She didn't think reconsider things until she was pushed back on this.
Block this fucker. Please.
I feel bad since I told her a lot about me lol
(I wasn't the child. Thank God.)
Personal shit
Is there a single mod on that server you feel you can trust?
Report them for flirting with minors. @fallow whale
Yeah, I couldn’t read past the messages.. it’s like the whole “kitten/mod” meme
I think I would be ostracized by the server
As a former 14 year old girl who was flirted with by a 21 year old man.. who didn't see anything wrong with it, and wore it like a badge of honor that someone so much older wanted to pay me attention... who ultimately trusted this complete internet stranger to pick her up in the middle of the night and go back to his house... who was raped by said 21 year old man
Do you want to be in a community where this is seen as ok?
The kids don't understand the wrong doing and the mods are oblivious
All of this is so triggering, and it -breaks my heart- for these kids
I said I want to leave the server but by doing so I'm leaving them to the wolves
Report the hell out of the server.
They'd just create a new one, is the thing.
Yes. Report the server. If the mods won't listen and the people in charge won't take action, report to Discord
I mean, they’re just kids.. and it seems like it’s 100% grooming.. ugh— this is disgusting.
Go dead air, report the server.
Yeah I'm sure this is against discord tos
It is
It doesn't matter if they create a new one. Report the server anyway
Scare the mods, scare the admins
Boy the server in question is drama central
Make them realize that something absolutely despicable is going on behind their backs, make them be more vigilant and take it seriously
Actually, good shout. That would scare the shit out of them.
I'm stressed lol
Block people. Report the server.
Screenshot the hell out of things (before they can start deleting shit) and report the server
It's okay. You're aware of things now. That give you control.
Yeah, they need to be held accountable.
Tell these kids that what is happening to them is not normal, that attention from people so much older than them is not something they want, and that if they need a safe space or someone to talk to, be there for them and point them in the right direction.
My suggestion is to take screenshots, just in case.
FYI I don't do any sort of like "pats you" "hugs" shit with ANYONE on the server, much less with children
Can I share something with names attached ?
I left a server over a 17 year old talking about wanting to do cam work once they were legal and nobody said anything about it not being ok to talk to a minor about this. And giving them ideas for how to go about it. I was sickened.
It doesn't have discord ID
I give people hugs because hugs are hugs and I'm a mama bear, and I don't care how old people are, but like... I'm not talking cuddle piles with 17 year olds. ew.
I think I reported the server? I was too shaken and can't remember
I hope I don't sound larpy, because I think it's something to be taken seriously, but I think there's a plan of action here.
?
CYA. Screenshot/document, organize, report.
Screenshot everything
Report the server
Block her
Reach out to the kids and leave an open invitation for them to talk safely
Make sure to grab screenshots of the full userid tags
Alva is 20, sleepy is 17 and resh is 15
This is about the time I really flipped out
And felt sick
Just to reiterate, none of this is your fault.
Grooming happens to the adults surrounding the children too.
I do think I should've said something sooner
But you have the opportunity to do what's right now.
don't play that game with yourself.
If you should have said something sooner, that's not because you're naive or anything, it's because she's manipulative.
You're not at fault for that.
Bitch, does accepting a ship between a child and an adult seem like a far fetch from grooming to you?
Not you. Her.
I-
Aaah
God, I wish I could have a word with her.
"Yeah, I am. Interacting with children like this is creepy and you need to stop it. You are the adult in this situation, and need to behave as such."
I did tell her about my experience when I was 17 too lol
Obviously she's gonna invalidate that as well.
Well, that’s distasteful.. “friends” using that as an excuse to cuddle with minors..
"If it's grooming, I suppose you don't mind me checking the screenshots with some friends?" Or is that reckless?
I mean how old did you say these kids were 15?? The only friendship I have with a 15 year old is my sister.
I mean my experience was I was 17, person was 18 but it was in person and messed me up for years
Lol.. I mean.. I would not go out of my way to befriend a minor.
This is a very hard task cause they're kids but if you're worried about them opening a new discord together and things escalating maybe it might be worth it to try to have a calm conversation with tjem about grooming?
I wouldn't mind befriending them, but like... boundaries again. ._.
So at least they're informed and can protect themselves a little bit..
I had a situation where I was 16 and the person was 27.. so yeah different mentality, age gap is huge you’re both at different areas in life.. what would a 21 year old want with a 15 year old
I Only really talk to them to offer advice/talk them down if they're in a bad way so to speak
My partner's youngest sibling is like. 14? I'm very careful about interactions with them. Memes and such? Sure. Resource links for the baby trans person? Yes. "uwu cuddles with you"?? Absolutely fucking not. Never.
Long term plan here is to reach out, tell them what's happening to them and offer them a safe, open invitation to speak.
That way, even if they do build up a new server, you still have that connection and you've made them at least a little wary of what's happening.
Other than that, reporting the server and scaring the everloving shit out of the mod and admin team, I don't know how much more there is you can do.
That girl knows what she’s doing..
And she's a girl
She’s not naive.. and she’s not playing dumb,, she’s fully aware of what she is doing.
So people will be less likely to jump on the "grooming" bandwagon
Because women get a pass for abuses and sexual assaults that men don't a lot of the time, because society doesn't think women are capable of those things, and it's like... yes. yes they are.
Caution the kiddos, send screenshots of the definition of grooming, and let them know to be careful and that this is not ok behavior for an adult to be doing with minors.
She Said, "Oh come on. Insinuating I'm grooming them fricking is" (Is going too far)
You don't need to convince them instantly; that's not going to happen. All you can do right now is make them aware of the possibility.
^^^^
I mean, you're not insinuating. It just is. :/ I the thing.
I have brought up the dangers before I think
*is
Plant that seed of "hey maybe X is right about this being weird" is really important
Hold up, I'm going to DM you something.
I mean, also remember that none of us have full context, only your part of the story
And I want to caution everyone here about that as well. yes, there's good advice, but ultimately not a lot we can actually do, and we only have part of the story or the context. I really don't want to see this chat get out of control or anything, so just... as a general reminder to remember to take a breath too
I know, I'm trying to provide evidence and context but it's tricky
I get that. Ultimately it's sort of in your hands. My advice is, screenshot the things you think are damning or good evidence, tell this person what you think, talk to the kids and just say "look, maybe I don't know the whole story, but I'm worried about your relationship with XXX and it feels like they might be using/grooming you, so please just be careful" and then report the server to Discord
you can't do anything more, and neither can we here.
I might just leave and report, I don't think my words would have any merit
I mean there’s only so much you can do online, since it’s still their choice whether they want to continue communicating with X, as shlee said we also only know what you have told us, so yes it is best to just report the server and leave it up to discord.
Also I'm dumb and don't know how I report a server
So much typos because I can’t multitask 🙃
All I can say is that you’ve done your part, now let discord do theres.
Am I a groomer if I said I wasn't cute in the general chat? I'm worried about if I did anything wrong now
You're not a groomer.
Grooming is a very precise process.
Sorry, I'm tired and self critical
Something that's really hard, if not nigh-impossible, to do accidentally.
You're not at fault.
I left
I don't even know if discord would do anything
Like the wrongdoing itself is between the lines in a way I think
Like the wrongdoing itself is between the lines in a way I think
I'm quite confident the dms would be more suspect
Even so, it's worth a try.
If she does, she'll be the one that looks worse.
Would it be unsafe? Or is it a delicate situation?
I Could get in a lot of trouble lol
offers 🫂 if wanted
Shit's rough.
I live away from home but there would be hell to pay lol
Okay. I was going to suggest you beat her to it, but that might not be the good idea then.
This is a really scary situation and you're handling it the best you can. I hope you know that.
Late, but I don't trust your therapist or husband on this
We're here for you.
I mean my family already kinda don't like me, but if they knew the full pic I'd be in the shitter
Typical trans/homophobic shit
Also some are racist lol
Lovely.
My suggestion would be to reach out gently to the kids and keep a low profile from her then.
Regardless, you reporting the Discord is already a massive step in the right direction.
You're doing the right thing.
Damn, I really had to send my face didn't I
Again, you trusted her, because she was your friend. Anyone would.
Thank god my dead name is my main online presence
It's not your fault you're manipulated.
Lemme rephrase that.
It's not your fault she manipulated you.
I really hope she won't sink that far as to out you to your family
I guess she could reverse image maybe
I did stir the hornets nest
Groomers hate being called groomers
Still, that would be a literal hate crime. I hope she's not that far gone 😐
Don't make mountains out of molehill.
One thing at a time.
Don't start assuming she's going to do anything before she actually does. It's not good for you mentally
I didn't know how to phrase it, but that. We don't even know if that's what she's going to do.
I kinda have to cover my tracks to be fair
I was terrified my former best friend would out me as poly to my husband before I told him, it never happened, lots of it is just internal fear taking over
Can you delete all your selfies from that server and the DMs?
Breathe. And take it one day at a time. Don't escalate it and just let it go. You left the server, now just stop with contact. You don't have to block her if you're worried that would set her off
Do whatever makes you feel safe, but try not to let potential bad future scenarios scare you.
That's called catastrophizing in therapy. You're okay now. You did the right thing now.
No selfies in the server but I can't find when I sent her pictures
I haven't been able to find it on my phone
If you cant find it it's likely she cant either
Try something like uh. As an example.
from:RavenFlight#1272 has:image
Oop, beat me to it lol
That should pop up all images sent between you two and you can pick out your selfies and delete them.
There's different options, too
Oh jeez I sent pics of myself in my nice clothes / makeup
I totally forgot
At least this isn't too recognizable
Besides my hair I guess
Unrelated, but love the hat.
Thanks, my cool gf made it
I was really an idiot tbh
I think I cleared all the super identifying shit but she could have saved stuff
Can't believe I shared my music with her lol
I mean, if I trusted someone, I'd send stuff like that too.
I'd survive if my family found out, I'd just get some bad texts
Had a LDR with a Russian and we had to keep each other... entertained somehow, to put it in PC-13 terms.
I don't think they'd bother to actually come after me
I didn't send anything of that nature thank god
Then you've done all you can.
I blocked her on discord
Still have her on an outside messenger
I dunno if I should hear her out anymore
I mean, no. You shouldn't.
I have trouble cutting lose I guess
Hearing people out is for people who are genuine, not manipulators.
Just like my family lol
The cutting lose I mean
It's still hard, I've lost a lot of sleep talking to her
I get that. Had that with a mental abuser as well. It sucks, but this marks the time you get control back over the time you otherwise would have wasted on her.
I blocked 😖
That's something to take pride in. 🙂 Not going to tell you how to feel, of course.
You're doing great.
I'd probably be insane or worse without my gf
Only been dating for like 9 months but have been friends since we were like 15 and known each other since 12
She sounds amazing.
I really don't deserve lol
that's how all the best relationships are tbh, a solid friendship at the base of it
why don't you deserve it ?
I'm just not as nice or as patient
From the perspective of someone who used to be with someone who said that, I'll tell you this and I'm sure she'll agree:
besides you can have other qualities she can enjoy
She's the one who decides who deserves her affection and she chooses you.
also you don't need to deserve being loved
Just because you have character flaws, doesn't mean that you're blocked from deserving love.
People are flawed, but that doesn’t make them terrible people.
you don't need to be the best or the kindest to be worth received kindness and love yourself
Her biggest flaw is trying to take care of all my problems for me lol
Relationships are a buddy system. 💛
And I don't not help lol, especially with anything gender related lol
that's why I love the song Lean On Me
That is the most wholesome take I've heard of relationships yet.
well there you go, you help her, she helps you, sounds like a good deal to me heh
I'm not good with feelings either lol
eh a lot of people have trouble with them xD
If that ain't a mood, jesus.
feelings are a mess
just take it easy and be patient with yourself
you can't control how you feel, just how you deal with it
and it's ok to need a minute to name what's going on
or even not be able to
My way of being grumpy is to go sit alone somewhere so I don't bother her with my bad mood lol
Been chatting with someone I like for two days and I'm already shooting everywhere feelings wise. I think it's something everyone's struggling with in their own way.
that's why you need a support system, to get the support you need as well as outside perspectives
my feelings tend to play hide and seek with me 🤣
like I'm fine and all of a sudden it's like "SURPRISE BITCH WE'RE FEELING ALL THE THINGS"
So more "Marco, Polo". 😛
I can be bad at expressing love too lol
maybe you just don't know what your love language is
not everyone verbally expresses love
She has no problem with it
well then you don't need to worry about it
I mean she can express it fine
I think you just love her so much you feel like you can't express it enough. 😛
some people say it with words, others say it with actions, some with little thoughtful gifts
But sometimes she thinks I don't hug her enough
some by asking you if you're not cold and have drunk enough water that day hehe
I'm not sure why, I've just never been huggy
there's a million and a half way of telling someone you love them without ever actually saying the words
Does it make you feel uncomfortable or is it just not something you're used to?
I've always hated being hugged by family
physical contact can be difficult
Valid. Tends to feel like an obligation, rather than a show of affection.
I think I find it suffocating sometimes
you can try with little things, like holding her hand
Was your family the "you are being hugged with no choice about it" kind? Nmom was like that, wouldn't let go when I cued I was done with the hug.
I do hug her sometimes lol
I don't like that Raven
Yeah, especially non close family
like it's one thing to make your kid say hi, but forcing prolonged contact is just wrong
Yeah, that would put me off hugging.
I found my step mother repulsive when I was a kid lol
Luckily my mom was very respectful of my physical boundaries, so now hugging is my main way of showing affection. 😛 But I can get how getting no choice in a hug removes the appeal later on.
I can hug my gf, I just never really initiate myself
it's a huge issue people have with cats in particular, they'll hug and snuggle with them when the cat doesn't want to, and then act shocked and appalled when they end up with a claw in the eye
Hand holding stresses Me out because she likes to swing our hands and I worry about hitting someone
just do what you're comfy with, try little things and find your boundaries
As a very huggy person myself I had to learn that hugs are not always needed let alone wanted
same Digi, I'm a very demonstrative person and naturally drift towards people
I often have to remind myself that not everyone enjoys contact hehe
I can sleep in the same bed now at least
Oh I'm very much no contact with nmom. Trust kinda breaks when a parent tells their kid that they're not careful with their kid's food allergy bc the food allergy isn't deadly (just, yanno, agonizing pain like a few twisted bbq forks deep in the back for hours on end). @shrewd wasp
I used to have to sleep on the floor or something
well isn't that lovely...
I'm so sorry Raven ><
Yeah sorry to hear that
and it's just a matter of taking it at your own pace Mag
no one, and I do mean no one has the right to access your body if you don't want them to
Yeah... that would be enough for me to remove contact too.
My mum keeps asking me what chocolate I like when I keep telling her it makes me sick lol
For some reason she doesn't believe that dairy messes me up
I've luckily found someone who is super okay with physical touch and likes it as much as me, we're cuddle bugs
should tell her 60% of adults are lactose intolerant
She also made fun of my hair the other day
that's awesome 
my granny doesn't do it as much anymore, if at all, but I grew up with her obsessing about my weight
I was always just slightly too fat to be pretty enough
On the hugs with SO thing, I totally get the not wanting to feel restricted feels. Which is where I communicate and say "I don't really wanna be touched rn, but can I hug you for a bit?"
unfortunately for her she's a strong woman who raised a strong woman so I learnt to tell her to fuck off and that I was fine as I was pretty early one xD
My mom had a few growing pains with my autism and was forced into an overprotective role over me as a single mother. There were a few things that posed a threat to us, so she was locked in. When I became an adult, she started to really stuggle to let go because of how ingrained that protectiveness is.
@fallow whale dairy allergy is mine as well! Not lactose intolerant, tried that special milk and still suffered. I'm pretty sure it's the milk proteins, whey and casein.
That really caused some blow outs and worries, but we're okay now. Although it's still a bit contentious, we tend to go through it well.
it's always good when you can mend the relationship
Can't relate lol
It helps that I understand perfectly where she comes from. If I was in her position, I don't know how much different I would have acted.
