The brand of it is uhhh
#🌈lgbtq
timid swallow
Guys!!!!!! There is a possibility that I will be having a romantic partner
I asked someone out today and they were like I'll think about and they are really cute I love them so much🥺 🥺 🥺
pure oxide
Awww, grats!
wintry monolith
Yay! That's awesome
ebon edge
A lot late, but congrats!
hidden inlet
Guys!!!!!! There is a possibility that I will be having a romantic partner
Ayy! Happy for you!
fallow whale
wintry monolith
I'm thinking about getting some subtle pride magnets for my office desk for if/when wfh stops 👀
I'm not publicly out
hidden inlet
They are quite cute, aren't they?
hidden inlet
https://www.etsy.com/listing/964319249/pride-octopi
I unironically want to get 'em all.
hidden inlet
https://www.etsy.com/listing/800282432/non-binary-sticker-pastel-bird-feather
Cuuuute! 😄
wintry monolith
I think the octopi would be subtle enough, too
Since I'm wfh a lot of my work pc backgrounds have enby pride/rainbows hehe
hidden inlet
That is lovely. 🙂 It's pretty cool how you can still have validating symbols hidden in plain sight!
wintry monolith
It really is
I need to re-buzz my hair again soon, it's getting all floppy in my face
Once wfh was confirmed I went from shoulder length/armpit length to 1 inch all over. Euphoria like whoa.
hidden inlet
I would literally rather break a limb than buzz-cut my hair, but I'm very happy for you. 😛
I can see how it's awesome to like... (re)gain that level of control over your appearance.
wintry monolith
It was around lockdown last year - didn't feel safe to go to a salon, figured it would grow out if I messed up/hated it lol
My hair got longer and my partner's got longer lol. His is about mid-back or so now
hidden inlet
............._I'm deadass so jealous right now.
Mine go to just over my shoulders. Would love to grow it to the point where I can headbang and crack a whip or something.
Okay, that's too much, but I mean, I would love some long hair.
simple yoke
hidden inlet
So... I low-key broke up with my date and he was very accepting of it! I even had to convince him that it wasn't his fault, or that there was any "fault" to really go around to begin with.
pure oxide
Oh I'm glad it went well
hidden inlet
Yeah, I was relieved as well. I mean, I figured he'd be accepting, but I also expected he'd blame himself for everything that was happening. Kind of the guy he is.
supple brook
Glad it went well! I'm sure it's a huge relief
hidden inlet
Kinda mixed, but it does feel like I can weight has been lifted of my... chest?
Eh. Definitely freeing. 100% staying friends with him too.
hidden inlet
Kinda sad, I guess. He's a really good guy, in general. Has his hang-ups, but even so. It's frustrating that we had to stop because of a situation instead of just knowing we're not a match.
dusky sphinx
I'm sorry that it's over but I'm glad you two can still be friends 🙂
hidden inlet
Yeah. 🙂 I'll feel better in a bit. I guess it's just the finality of it all that's a bit jarring.
dusky sphinx
Of course, that's totally understandable- it's still a change in your life. Just take care of yourself as best as you can 
hidden inlet
Will do, thanks! 😄
waxen hare
aaa gosh good for u bud!! it can be hard but itll turn out best for both of u in the long run
hidden inlet
I'm sure it will. 🙂 Just have to recover now, I suppose. Have a few recipes in mind.
waxen hare
YEAH have a good rest and some comfort food be kind to urself bud!!
fading cedar
also ice cream... i heard ice cream REALLY helps ❤️
dusky sphinx
that sounds like the best advice possible
fading cedar
right??? xD
hidden inlet
also ice cream... i heard ice cream REALLY helps ❤️
I know of a few places I can get vegan ice-cream recipes. 😮 Good shout, actually! Thanks! 😁
dusky sphinx
just go for a chocolate shake- then you can add sprinkles too!
fading cedar
oooor
hidden inlet
Dont forget it HAS to be chocolate
Better, stracciatella.
dusky sphinx
dang
hidden inlet
just go for a chocolate shake- then you can add sprinkles too!
I can make smoothie-bowl, easy.
fading cedar
^this is too healthy... stop D:
hidden inlet
But it's so good to me doe! D:
dusky sphinx
agreed, you don't eat fruit when you are recovering from sadness LOL
fading cedar
the only fruit youre allowed to eat is watermelon and mango... but save that for tomorrow...
hidden inlet
the only fruit youre allowed to eat is watermelon and mango... but save that for...
Been ages since I last tried watermelon. I could try it out again.
hidden inlet
agreed, you don't eat fruit when you are recovering from sadness LOL
You don't know me or my lifestyle. I'm built different. 💁♀️
dusky sphinx
Plomin help 😆
fading cedar
Just eat the damn ice cream.. If you wont I will xD
dusky sphinx
I'm not confrontational enough to take ice cream from someone so phew 😛
hidden inlet
i know your lifestyle. 😈
And what would that be? 😁
It was more like "Make an unhealthy decision, or I will" and like, I care more about others than about myself.
fading cedar
oh dont worry i wont make a healthy decision anyway xD
fading cedar
is deliciousness not reason enough?
hidden inlet
I make delicious smoothie bowls.
fading cedar
hidden inlet
To a smoothie bowl.
fading cedar
hidden inlet
And ice-cream, I guess.
dusky sphinx
shoot now i want to make myself a smoothie but i gotta go run errands soon 😛
fading cedar
awww it can be a treat when you get home 😄
dusky sphinx
yeah, after dinner treat 😄 thank you for justifying all our calories haha
fading cedar
hahaha thats what im here for xD
waxen hare
ah gosh i still have to make dinner
i was workin and then i looked at the time and its already 8 😭
dusky sphinx
oooof, what you making though? 👀
fading cedar
same here... been studying all day and i was like "wow its already that late huh" thankfully i had leftovers
hidden inlet
I was counting the clock for the call to come. 😅 But yeah, what are y'all gonna make.
waxen hare
hmmm i have fancy pasta and fancy cheese sauce i think ill heat up
dusky sphinx
oh heck yeah that sounds wonderful
solid quartz
nice
fading cedar
Asking here as well, Anyone up for Jackbox gamesies? 😄
median oak
Jackbox is always fun, haven’t had a chance to play in awhile
wintry monolith
Are the games y'all are playing in it flashy/strobey? I'd like to join but am photosensitive
dusky sphinx
I'm sorry we just stopped for now! they aren't super flashy- we were just doing Murder Trivia Party and the graphics on that are actually fairly dark- so you know for next time!
wintry monolith
Alrighty!
median oak
Monster Seeking Monster is my favorite
dusky sphinx
yes I do like that one as well, I'm sure we'll have more jackbox nights soon!
fading cedar
I hope so it was lots of fun 😍
median oak
How many people did you have?
fading cedar
Just 4 a cosy, friendly little death match
median oak
What other multiplayer games do you guys like?
median oak
Lol, which ones do you play more frequently?
dusky sphinx
so far here we've played among us and then jackbox 6 tonight. i also have jackbox 4 + 5 i can host sometime and another game kinda similar called use your words. i also have tabletop simulator, overcooked 2, trying to think of other stuff that lots of people can join haha
wintry monolith
May I suggest DST?
dusky sphinx
i do have that but never played it tbh!
median oak
I have Jackbox 4 and Tabletop Simulator too. What’s DST?
median oak
Oh, yeah I’ve heard of that one. I’ve played Overcooked 2 once
neat atlas
Heyloz all.
median oak
Anyone played Monster Prom? I haven’t had a chance to play it with multiple people
Hi
dusky sphinx
i have monster prom! i played through it once
median oak
Nice! I backed the sequel on Kickstarter
wintry monolith
Rainbow shoes ❤
warped python
Nice!! I have a pair of hightops with the soles, though I customized the tops
median oak
I always fret over shoes with white coloring getting dirty
wintry monolith
They're too small and absolutely murdered my heels/ankles a few weeks ago. ;-;
warped python
oh nooo
The white actually doesn't get that dirty on these, and they wipe clean very easily if so
wintry monolith
Mostly healed back up now. 100% gonna look into stretching them before next wear.
median oak
Did you order them online? I have to try shoes on before I buy them because I have wide feet
wintry monolith
I did, yeah
Shoulda gone a size or half size up to be safe
Never had a pair of converse before
median oak
I usually really like converse and vans
median oak
What I’ve done is try on the same style in the store, then order the color or design I want online so I know what size to get
warped python
I wear about a half size up in Converse, normally wear a wide in a standard shoe. The way you lace them can help a lot too
pure oxide
Converse are such good shoes...
median oak
I didn’t even consider lacing being a factor, good to know
proper knot
Those be awesome shoes
wintry monolith
I'm hoping I can make them work for me
shrewd wasp
I have an amazing pair of converse but my feet are a stupid half size so they're somehow both too big and too small 😭
warped python
Here, this is a basic rundown of the lacing stuff: https://ptforhealth.com/do-you-suffer-from-foot-pain-have-you-tried-lacing-your-shoes-differently/
shrewd wasp
ankle height with an american flag on em, got em in new york like 10 years ago...
o: you know I'll try some of those thank you !!
I mean thank you, professor.
warped python
XD no problem
median oak
warped python
fading cedar
@median oak we’ve kinda tried to find games that are free for everyone to play so that as many people as possible can join. We’re a small group that started playing the forest and I myself play a lot of DBD
median oak
DBD? How does everyone memorize these abbreviations? 😅
half oar
=> Dead by daylight
hidden inlet
DBD? How does everyone memorize these abbreviations? 😅
how i learn them is that usually when i look up the game, it'll be in a link or the title to the discord/subreddit, like RoR2 being Risk of Rain 2
hidden inlet
yes I do like that one as well, I'm sure we'll have more jackbox nights soon!
Definitely looking forward to them myself. 😄
median oak
Acronyms will be the death of me
hidden inlet
Rainbow shoes ❤
I thought the last word was "conversion", I was like 😐
Yeah, so far we've played King of Crabs, CS:GO and Of Guards and Thieves as well, but those were pretty desperate measures. 😛
hidden inlet
May I suggest DST?
I did see DST in Steam and I considered buying it, but I don't know enough about it to really know if it's worth the money. :/
fading cedar
Acronyms will be the death of me
ah sorry xD
supple brook
I did see DST in Steam and I considered buying it, but I don't know enough about...
It's so fun, I loveeeee that game!
I haven't played in ages cause I either play a game obsessively or not at all for 6 months but I really enjoy it when I do play
hidden inlet
Aaahkay. 😮 I'll keep it in mind then.
fading cedar
I think its aight, maybe its funnier with loads of people but playing it 2 ppl is okey haha
hidden inlet
Oh, I thought it was just a co-op. Cool that you can have more!
fading cedar
i think you can xD
shrewd wasp
dst is hilarious and obnoxiously difficult for how cute it looks 😂
indeed the more the merrier, especially if everyone's a beginner and no one has a single clue what to do
hidden inlet
shrewd wasp
see now that's a man with his priorities straight
hidden inlet
I don't think his priorities are very straight.
shrewd wasp
snort
hoary lake
I did see DST in Steam and I considered buying it, but I don't know enough about...
ooo it can be so great but you DEFINITELY need to use mods if u want to have fun
otherwise it can get really demotivating and stressful once the seasons progress
shrewd wasp
dst's not dst if a moosegoose doesn't nest in your camp 🤣
dark patio
I need to reinstall dst but I love that game
fading cedar
Lets all play it some time 😄
waxen hare
good afternoon folks!!
wanton hamlet
hey does anyone simp for Robert Pattinson?
waxen hare
oh always 
wintry monolith
The crockpot mod for dst is nice. And the maps ones. And being able to see what wormholes go where
There's also some fun added in characters
dusky sphinx
I'll download it on my PC later so I can join y'all sometime 🙂
wintry monolith
My partner likes adding in uh. I think it's the Engineer from TF2?
I haven't played in soooo long
All my mods will need to update lmao
hidden inlet
Small question: Are Don't Starve and Don't Starve Together linked or do you need to buy them separately?
supple brook
They're seperate games
But you can easily play dst by yourself. I never even bothered to get ds
dusky sphinx
heck yeah do it! I've had the game for a few years and never touched so let my steam library cry a little less!
flat scaffold
Small question: Are Don't Starve and Don't Starve Together linked or do you need...
I had been wondering about that too for a while. I only have dst. After bivexual's comment, I'm probably gonna keep it that way over getting both.
wintry monolith
@hidden inlet they're bundled quite often iirc
mellow sand
shrewd wasp
bubbline is forever and always one of my goals
waxen hare
lesbians are so powerful honestly
ive never met a lesbian who wasn't a person id want around in an emergency they always know what to do
rose ice
I'm bi is that why I'm not powerful XD
hidden inlet
The Tokyo Ghoul of sexualities.
pure oxide
@rose ice We're only sometimes powerful
rose ice
Hahaha
pure oxide
I'm very powerful when I am around women I like. When I am exhibiting Lesbian Energy™️
rose ice
Oooh yes makes sense!
I need more woman around to extract my powers
Chaotic lesbian energy
waxen hare
i fit the disaster bi stereotype more than i like to admit honestly
wintry monolith
Oof same
hidden inlet
"Gay comic-relief character who uses comedy to cope" for me.
supple brook
No bisexuals are always powerful 👊🏼
dark patio
it's true we are
rustic drum
supple brook
I know shlee didn't mean it like that but it does always make me a little sad when bisexuals diminish their attraction to multiple genders and say they'd rather be a lesbian or gay or whatever
I used to do that soooo much too and didn't even realize how much internalized biphobia I actually had cause social media just made it seem so quirky and funny when in reality it's just.. Sad
Like, I'm mostly attracted to fem presenting people but I am also attracted to men and masc people and social media legit made me feel so ashamed for it even though I didn't realize it? There is nothing unfortunate about being attracted to men
woven grotto
I switched from stating I was bisexual to being pansexual because I got so much grrr from the community because I was called exclusionary for being bisexual. Even though, for me, it meant I was attracted to every gender. So now I use pansexual to not have to deal with the grrrrr from all directions.
But also, because I am attracted to all, that does make me pansexual it seems.
supple brook
Oh I HATE the bi/pan discourse it's so fucking stupid. Bisexuality isn't transphobic or exclusionary and it's fucked that people twist it that way. Bi people and pan people are comrades and siblings and one isn't inherently better than the other
rustic drum
I'm bi. I think it could be argued I'm pan, but bi feels more comfy so that's how I identify, and I refuse to think about it much harder than that 😂
supple brook
I used to id as pan but bi just feels more at home for me personally
supple brook
I'm bi. I think it could be argued I'm pan, but bi feels more comfy so that's ho...
This. They're so similar that it doesn't matter. It just comes down to what makes you feel comfortable
hidden inlet
I mean, I don't think it would make you exclusionary, although it was confusing to me after learning about the "more than two genders" thing, from the outside looking in.
Then again, I had to actually argue with other gay people that being bi was a thing to begin with. 😒
rustic drum
Exactly. The discourse makes me sad tbh. I've met a couple people who literally just pick one label over the other because they prefer that flag and... I mean that's fine too imo haha
supple brook
People make this shit seem so deep nowadays its ridiculous. So what if i decided to id as bi bc I like the flag more or whatever
dark patio
the way I've seen it described what I think was best (though of course it's different for everyone, choose the label you want that makes you happy)
pansexual - attraction feels the same across any gender
bisexual - attraction to different genders hits you different ways
woven grotto
Idk, whenver I say bisexual to people I get so many response like: well that's exclusionary or you're only acknowledging the two main genders - which isn't what I'm doing and feels the opposite of what I am saying when I say that actually.
supple brook
I mean, I don't think it would make you exclusionary, although it was confusing ...
Yeah. Big misconception. Bi doesn't mean "men and women", never has. Even in the earliest definitions i didn't mean "men and women".
It's more "your and another gender/other genders"
woven grotto
the way I've seen it described what I think was best (though of course it's diff...
That's actually a really good way to think about it. Thank you!
rustic drum
Yeah. Big misconception. Bi doesn't mean "men and women", never has. Even in the...
THAT. The idea it's exclusionary is completely manufactured
supple brook
The purple stripe has literally always stood for anyone outside of the gender binary
dark patio
That's actually a really good way to think about it. Thank you!
It's the definition I've seen that I've liked best. It made sense to me
supple brook
THAT. The idea it's exclusionary is completely manufactured
Exclusionists are a fucking pest :))
rustic drum
I'm not going to pretend I'm the most well versed person by any stretch, but those definitions I think are fair. Anecdotally, that's how I see people falling into those 2 buckets so it makes sense to me
dark patio
if exclusionists even fucking look at my sexuality i will stomp them to death with my hooves
supple brook
Genuinely, I don't think there isn't a huge difference between bi and pan and there doesn't have to be?? People are so fixated on strict definitions it's so harmful
dark patio
I think it's mostly like, if the label makes you happy and you think it fits you? use it
supple brook
Exclus and terfs can pry "queer" from my cold dead hands
dark patio
Exclus and terfs can pry "queer" from my cold dead hands
BIG FUCKING MOOD
supple brook
I think it's mostly like, if the label makes you happy and you think it fits you...
That's literally the only thing that matters
hidden inlet
Isn't the whole point of non-binary that these labels are restricting and people are more complicated than that? It's a bit weird for the people who have that belief to then kick down at bisexuals.
dark patio
Not really?
rustic drum
I think the differences are very nuanced, I agree. It really just comes down to how you want to identify. Be that by loose definitions, which label you prefer, which flag you prefer. All is fair game imo.
dark patio
I mean, non-binary isn't a sexuality, it's a gender, so it's a bit different
supple brook
All of this is why I love queer so much
obtuse bronze
At the end of the day I think it's probably obvious that Sexuality slides on a scale, but as humans we feel the need to explain things by slapping a label on them.
supple brook
I love being bi but I love being utterly and confusingly queer even more
dark patio
and at least for me, it's not so much about labels being restricting, like... i like being able to label myself. It gives me the language to discuss my life experience with the people around me.
obtuse bronze
Exactly Elsa
rustic drum
I love queer but it does not feel right for me at all and i cannot explain why, idk
obtuse bronze
Labels don't define you, but you can use them to explain yourself if you want to
supple brook
That's also fair!! You don't have to id as queer
dark patio
But being non-binary is about the existing labels not quite fitting me and choosing a label that sort of explains my... not quite gender
supple brook
I just LOVE how vague it is and that you don't have to put 23 different labels on yourself
dark patio
my gender, but a bit to the left
supple brook
Yes this!!
hidden inlet
I do want to say, I'm sorry my ignorant ass hopped into the discourse, but I appreciate you explaining this and I want you to know that y'all are valid. ❤️
dark patio
I love using queer because it encompasses all my labels. I can just say, yeah I'm queer, without going "I'm a bisexual grey romantic tranmasc enby"
supple brook
I honestly also love queer out of pure spite, that's definitely also a factor ahflsogs
dark patio
I honestly also love queer out of pure spite, that's definitely also a factor ah...
i mean same kind of
supple brook
Nothing makes me block someone faster than seeing them tag something as q slur <3
dark patio
I'm not sure how pg what I want to say is but there was a queer slogan that super stuck with me and just spoke to my soul
supple brook
I love using queer because it encompasses all my labels. I can just say, yeah I'...
Yes exactly! That's why it's such an important term
hidden inlet
Also, I second Bivexual when they said "Fuck TERFS and Exclus". Saw a few of those and honestly, every time someone seems to point out they're gender critical and have concerns, some toxic shit spews out and I'm over it. Can't imagine how done y'all are.
dark patio
cause I've grown up in a pretty rural, christian, white area and had things as simple as "lesbian" thrown at me as an insult. and to be able to grab onto that "not gay as in happy" phrase really felt like taking back shit people tried to make me feel bad about
supple brook
They literally just spew the same old gender roles we have seen for centuries repackaged its insane
YES!!!!
woven grotto
I feel like for me queer just means not straight. So I guess I would be queer since I date and am attracted to all people.
I wouldn't call myself straight by any stretch of the word.
rustic drum
Haha yeah i think the majority of people who I know that ID as queer are just made of magic, and I'm... Feminine Bi CisWoman. Idk I am not saying this to disparage myself I just don't think I radiate the energy of queer
woven grotto
And now because of this conversation I am definitely going to ruminate on pansexual vs bisexual when labeling myself.
dark patio
I feel like for me queer just means not straight. So I guess I would be queer s...
yeah, it's an umbrella term that can be used however you feel it fits you, if you feel it fits you
supple brook
I love queer because it started as an insult like man whats more badass than that! The fact that people are trying to take it away again after the negative connotations are pretty much completely gone is so fucking stupid. I don't see them trying to say gay is a slur even though it very much is used that way to this day lol
dark patio
honestly, it kinda shocks me every time I remember that there are still straights out there using "gay" as a derogatory term to mean stupid or weird
cause I'll call shit gay and mean it's the coolest
or that it's super cute
supple brook
Big same
hidden inlet
honestly, it kinda shocks me every time I remember that there are still straight...
Ngl, I tend to giggle, because it's really hard to take seriously. I tend to get flashbacks to primary school.
rustic drum
Ughh my last boyfriend's friends used gay as an insult and I threw them all away
dark patio
Ngl, I tend to giggle, because it's really hard to take seriously. I tend to get...
it's super weird to hear anyone older than a teenager try to say something is gay and mean it bad
rustic drum
It's jarring for sure, like oh are you 12? Is this the early 2000s? Ok.
supple brook
I, a queer woman-ehhhhh, have had the German word for a gay man thrown at me like people who use slurs don't care what they mean
hidden inlet
it's super weird to hear anyone older than a teenager try to say something is ga...
Ikr? I just immediately assume they didn't grow up out of 2008-
Literally what Eversohappy was going to say.
supple brook
I, a queer woman-ehhhhh, have had the German word for a gay man thrown at me lik...
Oh and I don't look masc at all, don't try to either, they just don't care
dark patio
i was in a super tiny gaming server at one point (like 15 people) and one member was the admin's like 12 year old brother, and he would use "gay" as a derogatory term on voice while we were playing among us and like
supple brook
GOD I FEEL
dark patio
we all ended up having a sit down with him in the lobby and was like "okay but why do you think it's bad to be gay?"
supple brook
We made an among us server with friends of a friend and they said..... Bad things
All grown men btw
dark patio
yeah grown men aren't worth the emotional labor
i would have just blocked and moved on if this weren't a literal kid who could learn and do better without treating it like it was my responsibility to make him better
hidden inlet
Oh God, I remember my ex's internalized homophobia was so off the rails he full on victim-blames femme gay guys.
Like the "If you're clocked as gay, what do you expect?" bullshit.
supple brook
Ughhhhhh i hate shit like that
Nothing breaks my heart quite like stupid unnecessary infighting
rustic drum
That's so gross 😩
hidden inlet
Nothing breaks my heart quite like stupid unnecessary infighting
This, honestly. He did it with various other things too and I feel it's rubbed off on me as well. 🤢
I full on had to unlearn so much toxic bullshit.
Like, we did not Stonewall Riot our way here for you to throw us back 50 years.
blissful granite
internalized homophobia? in this community? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (yes.)
Yeah the problem ultimately is how badly we wanted to distance ourselves from what was deemed bad.
rustic drum
Quelle surprise
blissful granite
"Act like our oppressors and maybe we'll get equal rights."
flat scaffold
In my young adulthood, getting away from my family and interacting more with other LGBTs did so much for me shedding off my internalized homophobia & depths of toxic masculinity I didn't realize I was buying into.
rustic drum
Omg. I was the only POC, feminine, LGBT person in my group for a few years there and that was... that was exhausting
blissful granite
I reeeeeeeeeally hope the devs take the time to want to meet with the LGBTQ+ community to reflect our understanding in the games because nobody ever does
You gots a story to tell, @rustic drum
rustic drum
I am tired. Welcome to my Ted Talk 😂
hidden inlet
I can't imagine. I'm white, straight-passing and private, so I never really had to deal with the majority of the bullshit more others had to face.
Other than the more incidious, internalized stuff, anyway.
rustic drum
When people say "well california is a blue state so they're pretty open minded" I just scream internally for several minutes, I think that's the best way to some it up haha
hidden inlet
We love diet bigotry. 🤢
supple brook
Yeeeeesh, sorry you had to go through that, it must be exhausting.
blissful granite
It's amazing what you learn about others here.
hidden inlet
Not me flashing back to every time a pro-Black Pete Dutchie brags about how progressive the Netherlands is on race.
supple brook
I've been fairly lucky. My parents suck but I've never been majorly hate crimed or anything, just The Usual like getting screamed at on the street with my ex gf lmao the standard stuff
hidden inlet
While ignoring the horrendous ways we treat the Moroccans, the Turkish and the Roma.
blissful granite
Oof, I have.
I had a coworker tell me he was going to tie my legs to the back of his truck and drag me Matthew Shepard style down a dirt road
I had been chased by homophobes
The love of my life was murdered in a hate crime
The dean of my university threatened to expel me for starting an LGBTQ+ club.
Mind you I'm old AF, but still.
hidden inlet
I had a coworker tell me he was going to tie my legs to the back of his truck an...
Where do they live. I just want to talk.
shrewd wasp
my god Vain, I am so sorry....
supple brook
Wow that's fucking horrible, I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that vain
hidden inlet
It's so fucking disgusting.
blissful granite
Thanks. It was about 20 years ago. But welcome to lgbtq progress.
rustic drum
🤬
That is all traumatic, I have no words ❤️
hidden inlet
Shit like this is the most infuriating stuff to hear. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
blissful granite
Back when I was a kid, my father was watching Ricki Lake and said "If I ever had a f-----t for a son I'd kill him." and, well, yay, not dead!
rustic drum
I was closeted for a very long time so i haven't been at the receiving end of violence, but that is an unfortunate reality LGBT+ face.. Things are getting better, but not nearly fast enough.
rose ice
I'm still closeted to my parents tbh and just came out as enby to my husband brother and a friend irl, only online people know other than that
rustic drum
I am way more open online too. I'm out to my dad, but not my mom. I'm honestly not sure how she will react but I know it won't be positive..
So I guess I'm still a bit closeted actually :smiling_face_with_tear:
blissful granite
They're getting better rapidly, but also, there's still old money controlling governing politicians that seek out ways to deny humanity. The first-world countries would not accept someone threatening to kill lgbtq+ folk, but there's plenty of countries that still do.
rose ice
My mom knows I'm bi but ignores it and did not react well (brother accidentally outed me but he was young and didn't understand)
supple brook
My parents know but pretend they don't lol
blissful granite
Yeahhhh. I had to create a diversity wheel of power and privilege and they asked me which one should go on the outer layer, the gays/lesbians or the bisexuals and I said UHHHHHHHHHHH that's really ffffing hard to say because gays/lesbians can still be murdered in most countries but other countries think bisexuals are confused. Soooo I guess gays/lesbians because they have to go celibate in some countries?
I was not particularly thrilled with that question.
hidden inlet
Forcing students to measure priviledge between oppressed groups like that is so stupid and misses the point entirely.
I'm assuming we're not talking about intersectionality, because that's awesome, but I have seen teachers ask people to rank oppressed groups based on how hard they have it before.
blissful granite
We are indeed talking about intersectionality. gender identity was on another part of the wheel but sexual orientation had lots of questions.
hidden inlet
Okay, never mind then. Sorry. I assumed it was worse than it was.
blissful granite
It's challenging even from an intersectionality standpoint, really.
I remember when neither gays or straights wanted to date bisexual people because "they'd cheat on you"
hidden inlet
I definitely get that. It's hard to see everything interlock and... put words to these abstract, pervasive things.
blissful granite
I could say that I had someone in my life who I would have married if I was bisexual, and that was challenging because I did not reciprocate those feelings based on genetic disposition alone.
hidden inlet
I remember when a straight person asked me and my then friend group about what bisexuality is and how we feel about them and I was not prepared for the wave of biphobia coming from these people. Jesus. Managed to push back on it somewhat, luckily, but I don't think it changed much.
Also, these people were all gay.
rose ice
The whole cheating thing and being bisexual is such bs, I'm bi and poly but I would never cheat
rustic drum
When I came out as bi, someone asked me if I talked to my fiance about polyamory so I could "have one of each" .... that was something
hidden inlet
When I came out as bi, someone asked me if I talked to my fiance about polyamory...
Oh God, wonder what that will look like when they learn about gender as a spectrum.
hidden inlet
The whole cheating thing and being bisexual is such bs, I'm bi *and* poly but I ...
Exactly. As if bisexuals are automatically twice as horny and disloyal. Stop.
rose ice
Like sure it would be awesome to have a gf or another partner but uhh husband doesn't want that so I'm fine?
Twice as horny is correct tho XD disloyal no
rustic drum
And they were SHOCKED when I said no and then it was followed up with "good for you" like I deserve a cookie..? Like... poly is fine. I am monogamous, and they know this. The concept of me being bi does not change that, what-
hidden inlet
And they were SHOCKED when I said no and then it was followed up with "good for ...
I fucking gagged, that's so patronizing, Jesus.
rose ice
My husband when I told him I was poly did not react well cause he worried I would cheat on him, it's like nothing has changed I've always been poly just without realizing it, doesn't make me more likely to cheat
supple brook
People pretending that bisexuals don't face oppression because we can have "straight passing privilege" if we "choose to date someone of the opposite gender" makes me so unbelievably angry
rustic drum
Yeah it upsets me when people associate bi or poly as being automatically sex crazed, that's not how it works...
supple brook
Or acting like we're "less oppressed" cause we're "half straight" like fuck OFF
hidden inlet
"Good little bi, good on you for not being like those others. 😊 " I'd be so pissed off.
rustic drum
Yeah! Another person when I came out "what's the point if you're with a man?"
.... :smiling_face_with_tear: thanks.
supple brook
God????? That genuinely makes me very mad
rustic drum
The point is I get NINETY NINE save files in Coral Island 😂 so there!
rose ice
Being married does not erase my sexuality!!
Me and my husband check out girls together all the time pfft
hidden inlet
Bruh, how can they not understand bisexuality as "I like all (my bad)", but they can somehow manage the mental gymnastics to envision Shrödinger's fucking Sexuality?
rustic drum
Right like, ok so if I said I liked blondes and redheads, do you assume i must always be dating 1 blonde and 1 redhead? Cuz that's how stupid you sound
rose ice
I like redheads so instead of dating one I became one
rustic drum
That's valid lmao
hidden inlet
Powermove. ❤️
blissful granite
I like redheads so instead of dating one I became one
That's cheating! You cheated. Cheater. 🤣
rose ice
It's my ultimate power move
Hahaha
Now it's great tho cause my husband will joke around that I'm poly 'ooh do you think she's hot maybe we can take her home' (he doesn't want a poly relationship tho which we already discussed)
rustic drum
Ah see, full circle. Bi's are v powerful 😂
rustic drum
Now it's great tho cause my husband will joke around that I'm poly 'ooh do you t...
Have you ever dead ass said yes but explained you all need to go on a proper date first
rose ice
Omg yes I'm going to now
mellow sand
Okay so me and my new girlfriend (Gosh I feel giddy typing that.) we are long distance so we play Minecraft together a lot. Today we sort of kissed by walking our avatars into each other. Seems silly. But my heart just will not stop racing after it.
hidden inlet
Okay so me and my new girlfriend (Gosh I feel giddy typing that.) we are long di...
That is unironically the cutest thing I've heard this year.
I'm so happy for y'all. 😄
rose ice
Aww!
rustic drum
Okay so me and my new girlfriend (Gosh I feel giddy typing that.) we are long di...
I have second-hand happiness from that story thank you, that is so pure
shrewd wasp
Okay so me and my new girlfriend (Gosh I feel giddy typing that.) we are long di...
that's so fucking adorable I can't even
pure oxide
I remember when neither gays or straights wanted to date bisexual people because...
They still do.
They still tell you that they'll never date you because you're bi, because it obviously means you're more prone to cheating and what if someone from <other gender> comes along, what then?
But of course, as bisexual WOMAN that discourse always came from the lesbian women I was attracted to.
Dudes never minded because "ooh, score, threesome!" -eyeroll- but any time I pursued a real relationship with a woman that was the excuse I was given as to why not
"I like you, but I don't date bi women. I'm a gold star lesbian"
which... is just.... internalized bi and trans phobia if I'm honest, but like
mellow sand
Wow. Goldstar lesbian... just is awful.
dark patio
God gold star lesbian shit makes me sick
rose ice
Bi's dating Bi's is an ultimate powermove to defeat them
hidden inlet
"I like you, but I don't date bi women. I'm a gold star lesbian"
More like a low-tier bigot. That's some interlocking internalized bigotry.
rustic drum
Bi's dating Bi's is an ultimate powermove to defeat them
Could that be called the Bi-Force
hidden inlet
"I only date other lesbians. idk I'm just built different. 💁♀️ "
pure oxide
I wish my husband was bi, but it's fine with me that he's straight. 😛
pure oxide
See, and at the time, i was in my early 20s and I didn't know better, you know? Early/mid 20s. The conversations have come a long way in the last 10 years (I'm 35) but you still hear it
rose ice
Part of me wonders if girls turned me down before cause I was bi but just didn't tell me
pure oxide
And I never thought about that being so bi- and transphobic unti more recently and got angry for my past self and how awful it was for her to go through that stuff.
mellow sand
At least in most lesbian circles I have been in that attitude is widely unpopular and most others will call them out for it.
rustic drum
My uncle is bi and he's run into gay men who say the same to him 😞 and then obviously the straight women who think bi men are "just gay and haven't fully come out yet"
Disappointment in all corners of the bi-kingdom
The bingdom 🤔
pure oxide
😦
mellow sand
Bi-phobia will get a definite calling out from me. It just feels arbitrary that a often discriminated against minority group will just turn on a related minority.
rose ice
the bingdom
mellow sand
Heck I know quite a few trans people who are bigoted against non-binary people. The vicious cycle continues.
mellow sand
*the bingdom*
Also that is perfect. 🙂
rustic drum
Oof yeah thats a heart breaker too
pure oxide
I don't understand the unncessary infighting and bigotry within the group. I really don't. It just makes me angry.
hidden inlet
I don't understand the unncessary infighting and bigotry within the group. I rea...
I think it's just a fight for validity. "I'm not like those weirdo's. I'm normal so you can accept me."
rose ice
I loves everyone, everyone should be accepted
hidden inlet
Kinda tragic.
dark patio
my trans ex-girlfriend used to refuse to acknowledge my gender as being anything other than cis woman, and i'm like... i've been open about this from the start, why are you dating me if you want something within the binary?
pure oxide
Y I K E S
dark patio
I came on one of our early dates very masc presenting and in a binder and she just "oh, so you cosplay?" well yes but that's not what i'm doing
pure oxide
O_O
How long did you stay with her?
"so you cosplay" oh my god I'd've just left. "Yep, and this is me roleplaying gettin' the fuck outta here, bye"
dark patio
about a year, i was overlooking some big red flags but was also in a super toxic friendship at the time that was doing real damage to my ability to stand up for myself
rustic drum
Oof I'm sorry I had to delete that gif, it moved way faster than the preview showed
pure oxide
Feck. I'm glad that you're not in that anymore
dark patio
lmao the gif was still accurate
rustic drum
Lol I thought it was 😂
dark patio
yeah i ditched the friend, broke up with the ex, then finally removed the ex as a facebook friend when she made a facebook post listed the genders of people she dated like we were pokemon and she had to catch us all
rustic drum
Holy crap
mellow sand
🤢
pure oxide
.....
rustic drum
It's so hard for me to understand people that are that toxic what in the actually f***
rose ice
On a happier note this is probably what my first tattoo is gonna look like
rustic drum
Cuuuute! Are you thinking solid black?
rose ice
Yeah!
rustic drum
Nice! Won't have to worry about it fading as much then
rose ice
Sweet!
rustic drum
And since it's p simple you probably don't have to worry too much about which artist you'll get (though for sure still check out their work before booking, unless you already have someone in mind!)
rose ice
Yeah I'm still looking for an artist at this point, plus I have to save up and get it in henna first to make sure I love it (husbands condition of me getting a tattoo)
supple brook
.....he gives you conditions on something you want on your body?
rose ice
He's just seen too many people end up getting tattoos they later regret so he wants to make sure I love it
rustic drum
My oldest brother is a tattoo artist. A common mistake he has seen (he does a lot of cover-ups) is that people assume any tattoo artist can do a simple design and so they don't do research 😞 he's seen too many wobbly lines on simple tattoos because of this lol
rose ice
Yeah I'm researching artists now to find someone I like
pure oxide
Yeah, research is a must. I loved my tattoo artist in Denver. I got two tattoos from him, he designed both based on what I wanted and they came out so lovely.
rustic drum
Yeah I'm researching artists now to find someone I like
Sweet! And sorry I hope it didn't sound like I was implying I didn't think you were doing enough research- just wanted to share his 2cents he's given me
rose ice
Oh no worries! Any tips are welcome!
pure oxide
Get your first tattoo on something fleshy and not bony.
The fleshier and meatier, the less it'll hurt.
The thinner and more bony, the more of your nerves are close to the surface, the more it hurts.
rustic drum
When I was looking at a small, solid piece he told me to just look at artists simple designs and focus on saturation and line work. He told me not to get starstruck if someone makes super good, complicated works. So I always think about that now.
pure oxide
My foot. Sucked. My back and even shoulder were absolutely fine.
rose ice
Oh yeah I've heard feet are the worst
hidden inlet
The thinner and more bony, the more of your nerves are close to the surface, the...
Not me flashing back to thinking of tattooing my then boyfriend's name on my ring-finger.
pure oxide
Names are a no no
hidden inlet
Yeah, I learnt that the easy way, thank God.
rose ice
Thinking about getting it on my lower wrist would that hurt a lot?
pure oxide
I wouldn't even get my husband's name tattooed on me and I married him and don't plan on ever leaving him till I die, and I still wouldn't do it.
rose ice
I have a high pain tolerance cause of my conditions
waxen hare
o my gosh tattoos
dusky sphinx
Not me flashing back to thinking of tattooing my then boyfriend's name on my rin...
A lot of us have been there at some point in our lives, glad you got out of that in one piece LOL
pure oxide
The only names I'd EVER get would be children or animals.
rose ice
Yeah no names ever unless it's like your kids or pets
waxen hare
i want a watercolour tattoo but i know they fade rly easily 😭
rustic drum
Thinking about getting it on my lower wrist would that hurt a lot?
That could hurt, since wrists can be sensitive. But tbh people say ribs are some of the worst ones, and my dad took a nap during his ahahaha. So it can vary person to person.
dark patio
I wanted a tattoo of the deathly hallows symbol to cover up a scar and hoo boy am i glad i waited before getting anything harry potter related on my body
hidden inlet
I wanted a tattoo of the deathly hallows symbol to cover up a scar and hoo boy a...
Fucking dodged a bullet there, Jesus.
rustic drum
I wanted a tattoo of the deathly hallows symbol to cover up a scar and hoo boy a...
O O F
I feel that, I was ready for a HP tattoo too damn
dusky sphinx
Oooof
hidden inlet
I'd rather a name of my ex.
dusky sphinx
^ same
dusky sphinx
Well, I’d rather a name of almost any of my exes... one would be just as bad 😬
rose ice
It'll be rather small, a bit smaller than the pic shows
dusky sphinx
Okay good to know about the wrist
My friend has a paw on the top of their head! Hell to manage of course since they have to keep it shaved and will probably need touch ups but it’s cute
supple brook
I wanted a tattoo of the deathly hallows symbol to cover up a scar and hoo boy a...
SAME ELSA AHFKSKGLS im so happy im broke and indecisive my godddd
I had like 3 HP tattoos planned lmfaoooo
wintry monolith
my gender, but a bit to the left
I'm still catching back up on this chat but my brain immediately went "none gender, left beef"
dark patio
SAME ELSA AHFKSKGLS im so happy im broke and indecisive my godddd
YEAH BEING BROKE AND INDECISIVE SAVED ME
rose ice
Lol neat! Probs not gonna go with one on the head but cool idea!
dark patio
I'm still catching back up on this chat but my brain immediately went "none gend...
lmao yes this is my gender
wintry monolith
Hehehe
dusky sphinx
Their partners and close friends call them pup so it works for them haha
pure oxide
The thing is.
It's okay to still like the series if it meant something to you. Obviously, acknowledge what a shit bag JK is, and don't continue to support her; no purchasing licensed ANYTHING, don't go to movies, play games, etc.
If the series means something to you, and said something to you, it's still okay to like it.
But support independent artists and people who aren't licensed and won't see a dime
supple brook
lmao yes this is my gender
Same hat Elsa 😔
pure oxide
rather, who won't give HER a dime
rustic drum
Lol neat! Probs not gonna go with one on the head but cool idea!
I took a fork one day and just tapped on places to see where's less sensitive for me 😂 not an exact science by any stretch of the imagination, and I haven't gotten my tattoo yet so idk if it helped but... idk you could try it too lol
pure oxide
And that's fuckin' valid too
hidden inlet
Honestly, looking at a TERF's work and getting validation from it is such a hillarious power move and if any of you do it, I respect you so much. 🤣
rose ice
Okay I might do that then!
dark patio
I mean, I still really love the world, but I want to interact with it on my own terms. My boyfriend and I write a lot of AUs and like, fixes for stupid shit JK Rowling did, like fixing the veela so they're something we can play with that isn't gross as hell
supple brook
And at this point broadcasting into the world that you still support the franchise is in very poor taste at best and makes people feel unsafe at worst
dark patio
but i don't think i'd be comfortable having anything to do with that world inked on my body
rose ice
I also get poked all the time with drawing blood and infusions so I'm used to it
pure oxide
That's what I mean, like. And yeah, for tattoos and shit I get it. I think take the best parts of it, change the worst to be better, and just don't support the creator in any tangible way.
dark patio
yeah i'm not buying any HP shit ever again
pure oxide
But I'm also not going to shame people for whom the series still means a lot to them.
rustic drum
I also get poked all the time with drawing blood and infusions so I'm used to it
Ah OK then you might have a wider canvas for what you can tolerate, so wrist could def still be on the table for you!
rose ice
Okay! I hope so!
supple brook
I was absolutely obsessed with this franchise and I'm so glad I completely detached myself. Supporting trans people and especially trans women is much more important to me than some shitty, badly written wizard books
rose ice
I have chronic pain and tingling neuropathy everywhere so pain tolerance is good
rustic drum
That's what I mean, like. And yeah, for tattoos and shit I get it. I think take ...
Exactly. Like I'll still make references cuz why not, but I can't bring myself to read the books again. At least not right now, maybe that will change in the future I'm not sure.
pure oxide
I do want people to acknowledge the bad parts (and the ones I know do) but also like... If it made an stark impact on your life, I'm not going to tell you you're a bad person for finding something that talks to you in it. No one is 100% good or 100% evil, but we do have to acknowledge when and how they are evil, extricate the good from the bad, stop supporting the person who is more than 50% evil, and make it into our own, transform the work into something good for us
rose ice
Do you guys mind moving the hp chat to books or movie and shows?
rustic drum
Omg I was watching with baited breath when that F popped up 🤣
rose ice
Hahaha
hidden inlet
I was worried I was gonna get banned when I added the "A". 😬
rose ice
But yeah I'm really excited to get my first tattoo
supple brook
Agree to disagree I guess hahah
rustic drum
I'm excited for you!
rose ice
Idk when I can get it cause I have to save up still and find an artist but I'm hype
I've been wanting this since I was 16
pure oxide
I mean, it's still LGBTQ related as we're talking about why people didn't get HP tattoos and it's because of the transphobe (among other things) that JK is.. honestly, the tattoo talk isn't distinctly lgbtq related and could be in any of the general channels, so
rustic drum
I was worried I was gonna get banned when I added the "A". 😬
Omg ngl when the A popped up I was like "ITS NOT GETTING BETTER" and then the C and I'm like "oh thank god"
proper knot
We aren't prats here
We love each other in our platonic close knit community of fellow farmers and simps
pure oxide
Truf ❤️
rustic drum
I panic easily 😅
hidden inlet
I panic easily 😅
Same. No one breathes more consciously than me.
shrewd wasp
no
proper knot
rood, you will feel de love
rustic drum
That face 😂
proper knot
_i am scared and anticipant to see what vex is posting _
waxen hare
are they puttin chilli sauce on popcorn
proper knot
same difference
supple brook
Usually I'm in favor of taking something bad and transforming it, making it your own. But honestly in the case of hp I can't really support it anymore. The source material is extremely fucking bigoted. Like, if you're still one of those epeople who makes this franchise a personality trait and have your house in your bio and whatever I'm HEAVILY side eyeing you. Just because it meant a lot to you doesn't mean you should still be openly supporting it in any way. I don't really care if you read fanfic or whatever like whatever floats your boat but where I have a big issue is when people STILL actively engage in the fandom and post about it on social media when it literally hurts trans women irl. This woman literally has immense political power and has managed to push through transphobic legislations. It's not a joke. If you're into this kind of media there is SO MUCH BETTER STUFF by queer people and poc nowadays and the fact that people insist on still obsessing over this mediocre bigoted book series from 20 years ago just doesn't sit right with me
hidden inlet
_i am scared and anticipant to see what vex is posting _
Was it as rivetting as you anticipated? 🤣
supple brook
Fuck sorry this got long and the convo moved on hakglagk but it's just..... Very important to me
shrewd wasp
https://tenor.com/view/love-meme-all-my-love-gif-14751501
suffocates x.x
wintry monolith
proper knot
It's a very powerful statement
But yeh, Rowling made her world, and she just couldn't keep her fingers out the honey pot
supple brook
And as long as people keep talking about it on social media and buying second hand merch she will continue to have power, no matter if you condemn her or not. Her wallet doesn't care
proper knot
Go into the quiet night, and keep quiet, if the story is contradicted within itself, offer clarity. But don't be a prat and bring another group down because of your ideas
supple brook
I wish we could just... Let it die already. It's run its course ages ago
proper knot
Many other great works have the same/similar issues, but they aren't needed to talked about to the same level, as they aren't brought into the discussion limelight as having a Twitter account allows Rowling to do so
shrewd wasp
ngl I do love the harry potter world, it brought me a lot of comfort as a kid for many different reasons, and it breaks my heart the way the author has torn that to shreds. But I think experiencing and loving this world without financially supporting her is an even bigger fuck you than boycotting it altogether, it can exist without her, though that is solely my opinion and I understand anyone wanting nothing to do with it 🙂
supple brook
Trans women have asked so. often. For people to listen to them on this and just fucking let HP die already but people care more about their nostalgia than real human lives. The situation is so severe because people are actively getting oppressed and possibly dying because of wizard books from 1998
Unfortunately bigotry is so intrinsic to the hp world that there is no real seperation possible
wintry monolith
I still read HP fanfic, but she makes no money off of that and I tend to mostly gravitate towards fics where characters are bi/trans/nonbinary/queer/ect. Every happy trans chara I read in that series is a "fuck you" to JKR, personally. But I will never ever buy her merch.
rustic drum
So I agree, I think if you go out of your way to support the franchise, give her money, are active with the Fandom, I do question where your allyship lies.
Ocassional references or whatevers I don't include in that umbrella, because... i just think thats different, personally. Calling my dog Dobby when her ears go weird is more of a reflex based on her ears rather than me consciously thinking about the franchise.
The series brought me happiness when I was younger, but the memories are now bitter sweet because of Rowling's transphobia (and Cho Chang... god....dammit I have issues with that too)
*though I do believe in the "to each their own" so if i question someone's allyship, but it turns out they just like to quietly reread the books still, I'm not gonna throw a flag at them
wintry monolith
I rotate through a lot of fandoms that I read.
supple brook
I mean for sure, it's so engrained in pop culture that getting all of it out of your vocabulary is nigh impossible lol that's not what I'm saying at all
rustic drum
I mean for sure, it's so engrained in pop culture that getting all of it out of ...
That's what I assumed but I wanted to make sure
shrewd wasp
tbh a solid 85 to 90% of my hp experience is via fan works. I read the books as a kid, saw the movies, but that's about it. My love for it is mostly based in the friendships I've forged through it and the amazing fan works I've read and seen
supple brook
Again like if you wanna read the books you own or watch the movies you own whatever man but I have very big issues with people openly engaging with it tbh. Bigots don't care, you're still giving her publicity whether you mean to or not you know
rustic drum
Yeah I think that's a solid stance, I agree with that. I dont want to give her momentum. That's all.
shrewd wasp
that's honestly perfectly fair !
supple brook
I just couldn't even find joy in it anymore if I tried. Everything is tainted by her bigotry now. Idk how some people still look at it through rose colored glasses
I threw out everything hp related I owned last year and it was honestly cathartic lol
shrewd wasp
fair enough 🙂 I have the books scattered in the house in french and english (not all of them in both languages) and a few paraphernalia from years ago, and like Raven wrote, every queer story written is like a fuck you to her and I find it cathartic in its own way
I'll never read a Remus/Sirius fanfic where they raise Harry and no feel just happy ya know ?
but that's just me
rustic drum
Its just become such a complicated matter. Esp if you started with the books, the growth of the franchise spanned across years of peoples upbringing
shrewd wasp
I was 6 when I read the first book
rustic drum
Yeah, so that's why I can get it. I'm still not like.. stoked when people are full throttle about HP but 🤷♀️
wintry monolith
As a side note on fanfic, I finished readinf a hella long Bleach fic where Ichigo was Ace and that was refreshing as hell
wintry monolith
I wish there were more stories with characters being ace
rustic drum
As a side note on fanfic, I finished readinf a hella long Bleach fic where Ichig...
What that's cool!
brazen willow
I’m not reading any previous context before writing this but
Hp? We talking lovecraft?
wintry monolith
JKR
shrewd wasp
no xD harry potter
shrewd wasp
also I'm making my dnd character ace, he's just a gentle lad who wants to make people happy
I mean hp lovecraft is a whole another can of worms xD
supple brook
HP 🤝 HP
being bigoted as shit
shrewd wasp
well you're not wrong 🤣
wintry monolith
Yeah the bleach story was something like uh.....76 chapters long?
Actually took me a while to chew through. It was nice
brazen willow
I like the genre he made , tho not him and his books are dry
But I like lovecraftian horror
It’s the only horror I’ve ever read to make me feel fear
supple brook
I wish we could rename it something that's not his name tbh
supple brook
The man deserves no credit lmao
wintry monolith
if I need horror all I gotta do is look at world news, that's spooky enough for me
brazen willow
Aight and what would the genre be called?
dark patio
it's some good eldritch horror
supple brook
He wrote the first couple of books. The rest of the people who wrote good books made the genre
brazen willow
Eldritch and lovecraftian are slightly different
supple brook
Sure it's all based on him but a major bigot doesn't deserve the credit imo 🤷🏻♀️
shrewd wasp
the eldritchian horror
wintry monolith
Physiological horror?
shrewd wasp
~~if I need horror all I gotta do is look at world news, that's spooky enough fo...
that's a mood and a half Raven
brazen willow
Physiological horror?
That would mean it’s mental horror and well there is a tinge of insanity o more about how weak humanity is in the grand scheme
supple brook
I love the name cosmic horror
dark patio
That would mean it’s mental horror and well there is a tinge of insanity o more ...
they said physiological not psychological
brazen willow
Oh
rustic drum
I think the issue with JKR an her franchise is that she's still around opening her mouth. Like Lovecraft, Tolkien, Disney. All problematic but all dead now so we can kind of just.... recognize they all sucked but move on. We can't really move on from Rowling right now.
supple brook
But I won't act like I know anything about the genre I just know that he deserves nothing
dark patio
but when i think eldritch, i think the sort of monsters and terror that a man who was afraid of shellfish came up with
brazen willow
But I won't act like I know anything about the genre I just know that he deserve...
He created the most commonly used pantheon for it too ( tho it is a fix of a few religions notably dantes depiction of stuff for azathoth)
brazen willow
but when i think eldritch, i think the sort of monsters and terror that a man wh...
Don’t forget he was also afraid of the feared air conditioner
supple brook
If jkr had happened idk 100 years in the past this would be a completely different debate. Lovecraft started this genre but he didn't make it. The amazing diverse people who picked it up made it. Jkr still has real life political influence that harms real people, that's one of the big reasons why i don't think hp (wizard) is redeemable
shrewd wasp
HP was scared of his own shadow
supple brook
Imagine being so racist you're scared of your own shadow
shrewd wasp
but anyway, I love long ass fanfics
especially the ones with the tags 'this started as a one-shot"
and it's 250k word 55 chapters long monster
those make me happy
supple brook
Hahah
brazen willow
55
supple brook
Idk why but i never..... Got into fanfic
brazen willow
Fun
supple brook
I read maybe like idk 1 fanfic in my life?
shrewd wasp
to each their own, I just have cravings for improbable shippings that need fulfilled
supple brook
I don't like reading anymore, maybe that's part of it lol
shrewd wasp
man I love reading, I literally spend entire days just tucked up and reading xD
supple brook
Nah that's totally valid I think they're dope in theory reading is just a pain LMAO
I used to,, now I can't concentrate on reading a single page
shrewd wasp
you know some people actually make podcasts of their fic !
so if you ever wanna listen to one
supple brook
I also struggle with podcasts LMAO
wintry monolith
Please just tell me that 1 fanfic wasn't My Immortal 😂
wintry monolith
RAVEN YES
shrewd wasp
we do NOT SPEAK OF THAT HERE 😂
supple brook
Been listening more since I started work but probably not gonna start listening tj fanfic at work 😂
shrewd wasp
good grief
wintry monolith
cackling
shrewd wasp
and hey fair enough
supple brook
Actually we did watch the dramatic reading of my immortal on YouTube when we were drunk, that was fun
shrewd wasp
only time I ever listened to a book was during a long ass plane ride
but that's it xD
mein got....
wintry monolith
Garfield Effect is another...heh. Amusing one
shrewd wasp
that's probably the only acceptable way to experience it actually
supple brook
Nah it was a short she-ra fic (that everyone suspects the creator posted anonymously bcs we know they posted one on ao3 but they never told us which one)
shrewd wasp
80's she ra or netflix one ?
supple brook
Netflix
supple brook
I did not watch the 80s one no thank you 😂 I tried wafching about 10 minutes of it and good grief it's special
shrewd wasp
I was fully ready for some massive queer bating ahemagainahem but nope
supple brook
It's one of my favorite shows ever
supple brook
One day i will get the failsafe tattooed :')
shrewd wasp
hahahaahha nice !
supple brook
I can't tell you how much I cried
supple brook
I didn't think catradora would happen at all. Not bcs of queerbait but bc I know how those big studios function. I didn't think they were gonna make them romantic and I didn't think there was any way of catra getting a good redemption and let me tell you i almost punched my damnb laptop through the wall
wintry monolith
If any of y'all play animal crossing new horizons, the design machine thing has so many pride designs. 👀
I was a very happy camper scrolling through.
shrewd wasp
aaawww that's awesome Raven !
also DUDE SAME I WAS SO NOT PREPARED
MY JAW ? ON THE FLOOR.
supple brook
I was just fully content with it not happening in canon
Like. Until the last episode.
shrewd wasp
I wasn't 🤣
supple brook
I "ah they're just best friends"ed myself until the last episode.
shrewd wasp
I watched the first ep and was like "oh look something I'm gonna ship that'll never happen nvm"
dropped the series completely
and then heard tails and rumours and was like noo...
it can't be.....?
so I watched it all
and damn
supple brook
Duh I shipped them the entire time but like those Studios are not forgiving. I thought they would be subtext at best
shrewd wasp
never have I been so happy to have been so wrong xD
supple brook
Nah I watched the entire time from the show dropping to the final season
I cared too much about all the characters to only watch it for one single ship
shrewd wasp
subtext ? Idk her HAVE A FULL ON DECLARATION OF LOVE ||AND AN ON SCREEN KISS||
wintry monolith
I dropped it at the prom drama; people fighting and listening to makes hella stress
waxen hare
gosh i havent seen she ra yet but it looks fantastic!!
dry swift
The Bigwigs didn't want Catradora to happen
shrewd wasp
oh Vennn do yourself a favour and go watch it !
pure oxide
OH ARE WE TALKING SHE-RA?!
shrewd wasp
YES
dry swift
Noelle literally fought tooth and nail to make it happen
shrewd wasp
Noelle is awesome
dry swift
(Also, Melog deserved more screentime and I will die on that hill)
shrewd wasp
Melog is so damn cute and I need 12 of them
pure oxide
Noelle has recently-ish come out as NB if I am remembering correctly, but I don't follow them SUPER closely
shrewd wasp
cept then everyone would know how pissed I am 25/8
dry swift
Noelle spent so much time working towards it under the radar until the Bigwigs at Netflix were like 'okay yeah we literally can't stop this.'
pure oxide
And yes, Noelle is amazing, and I effing LOVE that show
and if y'all haven't seen it, Kipo is a friggin' fantastic one too
shrewd wasp
I was unsure about their pronoun but that's what I thought Shlee !
shrewd wasp
adds to list
waxen hare
i also saw that wolf movie by the indie irish studio is out and i rly wanna see that too gosh
pure oxide
and one of the main characters is openly gay, and the other basically... 3 main supporting characters are all black and it's just... ugh. so good.
pure oxide
i also saw that wolf movie by the indie irish studio is out and i rly wanna see ...
Done by the same ones who did The Book of Kells which was fantastic, and husband and I watched part of it but for some reason I wasn't feeling it about 30 minutes in so we stopped, but what we did see was really good and when I"m in a different mood I wanna watch it again
Could host a movie night for it here
waxen hare
yes!! id definitely recommend song of the sea by them too its about selkies!
but im biased as a marine biologist LOL
dry swift
Are Kipo and the Book of Kells and such on Netflix, or do I look on other mediums?
waxen hare
kipo is definitely on irish netflix but im not sure about other countries gosh
dry swift
British Netflix, specifically 😅
pure oxide
Are Kipo and the Book of Kells and such on Netflix, or do I look on other medium...
Kipo is Netflix but I don't know about book of kells
shrewd wasp
Irish and celtic folklore in general
waxen hare
i dont think it is! 😭
i love irish folklore i gotta say it makes me happy when i see people enjoyin it
wintry monolith
shrewd wasp
EXCUSE ME I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT THUMBNAIL-
vague nymph
I remember my sis showed me a movie called Song of the Sea
I believe it’s on Netflix
shrewd wasp
shrewd wasp
I always forget Yasha has heterochromia
dry swift
I really need to get more into Irish folklore, tbh. Y'all reminded me of a short story I read on tumblr about a selkie who falls in love with a human and gets so confused about why she (the human, bc of course's it gay) won't hide her (the selkie's) cloak. And I went and found it because I had to read it again and also share it with y'all.
https://elodieunderglass.tumblr.com/post/164599259133/lustfulpasiphae-dateagirlwhosweird-date-a
waxen hare
o my gosh thank u!! this is 100% up my alley
waxen hare
lady selkie stories usually make me so sad because theyre always just trapped in loveless marriages by fishermen who hide their cloaks 😭
dark patio
try looking up Seal Maiden by Karan Casey, if you like selkie stories
dry swift
I just like the folklore. The Sidhe and such.
dark patio
it's the one i grew up with and doesn't involve any stolen seal skins
well, one hidden skin but in a different context than usual
waxen hare
i love the folklore too!! it just reminds me of sittin at grannys and her tellin stories gosh 😭 💖
dry swift
I used to have this old book of folk tales and while it wasn't necessarily about Irish/Gaelic tales, specifically, it was all about the Fair Folk
waxen hare
but it does make me laugh when non-celtic people are like FAIRIES ARE SO CUTE AND FLOATY and celtic people are Terrified of Them
dry swift
I make no mistake. Fairies are flitting little things. Faeries are to be feared, and respected.
waxen hare
theres still not a farmer around who doesn't leave the fairy tree standin because theyre afraid of bein cursed
wintry monolith
I read an interesting Dishonored story a while back that had Daud as a selkie. Can't remember the title or premise for the life of me though.
I love things where actual lore is mixed in and you end up learning stuff
shrewd wasp
I have an irish friend who won't go anywhere near black horses cuz of kelpies xD
dry swift
I just wish that my country didn't have such a vendetta against it :/ Literally floods valleys with people's homes in and doesn't let a family put a quote in irish on their mother's grave bc 'politics'
shrewd wasp
that's the best Raven, especially when it's obvious the writer really put in the works to actually look up and learn the myths and legends and it's beautifully weaved into their narrative
waxen hare
i hate that the irish language has been politicised honestly 😭 like its just our language thats been persecuted for like a hundred years can we speak it in peace pls
waxen hare
its on the rise again im so happy
pure oxide
SOMETIMES mh or bh make a v sound.
proper knot
icelandic is better
pure oxide
SOMETIMES THEY DON'T
dry swift
I mean.
pure oxide
Icelandic is cook. I only know how to say "Oh look! A flaming sheep!" in Icelandic
proper knot
And I say that as a brit, who wishes that 26+6 did equal 1
pure oxide
do not ask why that specifically but yes. ALso, Icelandic is the closest to old Norse that still exists in modern times. 🙂
waxen hare
TRU BUT english also has annoyin pronounciations 😆
pure oxide
*cool
dry swift
The correct spelling of Banshee is ben side
dry swift
Both
proper knot
Yep, they can still read Norse like we English can read Shakespeare
waxen hare
or bean sidhe 😆
dry swift
It's complicated
dry swift
Woman of the faeries
proper knot
The fae
pure oxide
screaming; banshees are generally thought to be screaming spirits
dry swift
Well, it's because they're heralds of death.
pure oxide
at least... in more british/american folklore tellings involving them
like "banshee scream'
proper knot
As the fae are mischievous and trickersters as well as wardens of nature
waxen hare
its the dullahan u gotta look out for 👻
dry swift
The headless men, right?
wintry monolith
English is the bastard child of languages, that rummages through other languages pockets for loose grammar.
dry swift
Also, slight deviation from Ireland - the Huldra of Scandanavia
They're bad, too, I'm led to believe
proper knot
I just get sad that us Anglish ignored/removed much of its Celtic history and lore or otherwise warped into something that isn't recognisable as Celtic anymore (looking at you Arthurus Armondinus (sic.)
dry swift
Oh, lord yes. Arthur's literally a celtic story.
proper knot
Then the french got it
shrewd wasp
do not ask why that specifically but yes. ALso, Icelandic is the closest to old ...
why that specifically
waxen hare
o my gosh when i was workin in wales i had a properly welsh pal who took me around and told me all the folklore it was so fantastic 😭 💖
dry swift
(Is this still on topic to the lgbtq? Yes. The fae are inherently gae)
proper knot
I mean, Arthur and King Le(i)ar are probably the only significant surviving Celtic tales that survive in England I feel
And both are corrupted to hell
You definitely don't get taught much about it at school sadly :(
I learnt more from the spiderwick chronicles than I did from school
proper knot
except when we rule you
waxen hare
the french are ancient celts too 
dry swift
I mean
waxen hare
good old gauls
shrewd wasp
stares in 1066
shrewd wasp
We are ! Brittany is actually full of celtic legens still
dry swift
Yeah, I'm literally French by way of 1066. There's records in my family for that far 😅
shrewd wasp
that's awesome Myst !
shrewd wasp
I'm a pure bred french mutt xD from all over the country
heaven only knows where the records are
pure oxide
*why that specifically*
So. Wayyyyy back in the day I used to belong to the Superhero Hype forums, and RP with a bunch of guys (and one of my best friends) there. And one of them was Bjarki, from Iceland. And I was asking him to teach me phrases. And I was asking my other friends on Ventrilo what I should be taught. And that's what one of them came up with
proper knot
and if you want to stare that match for Brittany, I stare at 1181
pure oxide
So I named my first ever composition for my music degree that
shrewd wasp
stares in 1776 😏
shrewd wasp
still can't believe we broke the monarchy just to piss off the english
waxen hare
thats so cool!!!
shrewd wasp
that's awesome Shlee !
waxen hare
sometimes i get a bit awestruck at all the cool people u meet that u wouldnt otherwise through the internet 😭
proper knot
I mean, we still kept claiming to be kings of France, for 9 years after the kingdom of France/Ancien Regime was dissolved
dry swift
There's a huge gap so I don't really take it for 100% fact. But I've got something in me from most of Europe. Red hair from the Scots/Irish, blue eyes from Scanadanavia, my second toe is longer than the big toe which apparently means Roman, and more
proper knot
I mean, Icelandic is worse
waxen hare
to be fair i think the red hair comes from scandinavia too! 😆
pure oxide
Hey, my second toe is longer than my first too! I'm... 1/4 Lebanese, I've got German, Norwegian, Polish, and Sioux Indian in me at the very least
waxen hare
the ginger in ireland comes from the vikings who were like actually this is sweet can we just be farmers and we were like yeah 😆
shrewd wasp
There's a huge gap so I don't really take it for 100% fact. But I've got somethi...
isn't that a greek toe ?
proper knot
Do I have your permission to swear to translate what I just said?
shrewd wasp
also I see your icelandic and raise you this :
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
dry swift
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
That's a town
waxen hare
i love welsh
shrewd wasp
yes it is
pure oxide
screw your Welsh
shrewd wasp
😉
proper knot
That's a line from the Disney version of hellfire, which instead of the English "hellfire, darkfire, now gypsy it's your turn, be mine or you will burn" it goes "in fire, hell fire, shall that slut wail"
pure oxide
oh god
shrewd wasp
well that's lovely
pure oxide
Dude that song is SO MESSED UP
shrewd wasp
IT IS
proper knot
Dræsan is a weird Icelandic word
waxen hare
YEAH FROLLO WAS HORRIBLE
proper knot
As poetically it means woman, but slut in normal Icelandic
dry swift
to be fair i think the red hair comes from scandinavia too! 😆
Red hair is exclusively from the British Isles. It was brought back to Norway and such through the vikings, who inherited it sometimes, and then later on they just had it
dry swift
isn't that a greek toe ?
It could be, I dunno 😂
proper knot
Still love it as a movie
waxen hare
frollo and the dude from pocahontas are the two disney villains i absolutely Detested as a kid
waxen hare
Red hair is exclusively from the British Isles. It was brought back to Norway an...
o my gosh rly i didnt know that!!
we are Learnin today
shrewd wasp
I don't think I hated anyone as a kid...
Fantasia scared the hell out of me apparently though xD
according to my dad
dry swift
I mean I think it first appeared in Central Asia. But that sort of... died out? I don't know, I'm not a geneticist.
proper knot
Hunchback and Moana have been my two language builders for other languages heh
shrewd wasp
I adored all of it except night on the bald mountain
proper knot
And I don't blame you, chernabourg is creepy as heck for anyone under 8
sue me, I am a Disney nerd
shrewd wasp
hey now
dry swift
_sue me, I am a Disney nerd_
sues you
proper knot
Horned king also
shrewd wasp
I'll never sue anyone who knows and loves Fantasia xD
proper knot
It's too beautiful not too love
proper knot
Though I do feel sorry for some of the other studios
shrewd wasp
not Shrek 🤣
dry swift
Literally, the Disney heiress who is a part of the 1% has come forward and been like 'yeah no, this isn't a thing that should be happening.'
shrewd wasp
I still love once upon a december
proper knot
It's just that hair flop
shrewd wasp
proper knot
XD
shrewd wasp
mood tho, bruh
but doesn't beat the empirically objectively best disney princess though
proper knot
XD
shrewd wasp
you'll never convince me Mushu isn't the best disney princess
it's just not happening
shrewd wasp
that dragon is special
(but in all seriousness Mulan's my favourite and that's the tea)
dry swift
Well, this has been fun, guys, gals, nonbinary pals, but I've got a Steam download that's been fluctuating between 18 hours, and 2 days and 10 hours. My internet is crap 😂
This is the lowest it's been since I started the download
shrewd wasp
oh that's a mood
I have "over a year" for a download the other day
I was laughing so hard I forgot to screenshot it
proper knot
Oof
And my word
its a rare event
someone else who uses guys, gals and non binary pals
dry swift
_someone else who uses guys, gals and non binary pals_
It covers it all, so why the heck not?
proper knot
Yeh, but I only learnt it at society in uni
So I covet those who embrace the wording
pure oxide
I love it. And J. Kenji Lopez Alt, one of my favorite foodtubers, uses it in his videos
dry swift
Started with Thomas Sanders, iirc
proper knot
Fair enough, good to know some origins
Learning for everybody
i love how we've gone from Celtic folklore, to Disney, to inclusive expressions
the power of the queer commune
shrewd wasp
such is the wae of chaotic conversationalists
proper knot
I prefer Queer Commune, but ok :p
dark patio
combine them
queer commune of chaotic conversationalists
it just rolls off the tongue
shrewd wasp
now that's one beautiful alliteration
also we're a queer covenant
actually how DO you call a group of queer people....
dark patio
A pride?
dry swift
The Alphabet Mafia
shrewd wasp
A hoard ? A herd ? A Group ? A school ? A fluff ? A pride ? A parliament ?
proper knot
I think pride has to work
pure oxide
A Pride of Gays, duh
dark patio
exactly!
proper knot
Can't use the fully inclusive flag I can access, due to no nitro
waxen hare
I mean I *think* it first appeared in Central Asia. But that sort of... died out...
o my gosh like how different things have independently evolved into crabs over time
AWH those are all such cute groupin names
i think my fav group name has to be a business of ferrets or a murder of crows
dark patio
I like a mischief of rats
wintry monolith
There's also parliament of magpies
pure oxide
I like magpies, but I don't live in Australia so like
dark patio
we used to have so many crows in my town, the sky would go black at times as the massive murder would take flight
wintry monolith
! I must find magpie vids. I know a channel
Posted in animals
As I mentioned pride gear earlier lol
Decked my character out in front of their house
I love the little plague doctor hat. It's a common addition to my outfits
pure oxide
oh I like your little flag and mat!
