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He's trying his best to understand he's just never dealt with this before
I'm glad you're doing better good luck at the doctor ❤️
I don't care
I know it’s not necessarily as easy as that but we got your back
This isn't understanding
This is the SECOND TIME he's told you how you feel
And how you're supposed to be and what to think, when it was a huge issue the first time
And it's becoming a pattern.
He isn't like this for other things
And my fear is that it turns into abuse and gaslighting, which it's bordering on already anyway
That literally doesn't matter
This is a literal part of who you are, your identity, how you see yourself, and being at peace with yourself
I don't care if he isn't like this about things that he doesn't have to worry about, or things that are mundane
But the fact that he's like this for something that means so much to you, even after you told him that it meant that much to you and what happened last time

He's just having trouble understanding I think, he wants me to work out and try and be more confident in myself and like my chest the way it is, says I'm flat enough with the sports bras I wear
...........
It's NOT HIS BODY
IT IS NOT HIS BODY AND IT IS NOT HIS LIFE AND IT IS NOT HIM
He's misunderstanding the idea of confidence and identity.
Correct
If that's all, he wouldn't have brought up your age as a reason for why you need to rethink this.
It isn’t. And okay, wanting you to be confident in yourself is, yeah, alright. But he doesn’t get to decide WHAT would make you confident
Oooh, there's a reason I renamed myself Mod-ma Bear, these claws are coming out
This is the conversation I had with my dad when he tried to forbid my sister from shaving her head.
You don't have to learn to love your body. You do what you want with your body, even if that means wearing a binder.
I'm married to him, what I do reflects on him
And if he doesn't like who you are or isn't proud of you when you're being your authentic self
You support each other, not just you him.
I'm just... there are alarm bells ringing in my head
This is actually a "Friendly" way of manipulating someone. Telling them they are "better than that" or "you just need to work out to feel better" or making it seem like they care about you while at the same time completely dissing the very core of you.
I know. It's scary and messy. It's just...
There are some red flags here but trust me I get that when you’re in this situation, a lot of this is easier said than done. Just... we care. No matter what, you have people in your corner that care.
It can surely be difficult without having a safety net or a support system in your life, but your identity is important.
Is there a challenge of cultural difference, just so we not stepping on those toes?
Don't get me wrong, man, woman and non binary should always be on the same footing in a relationship, but just wanting to check before I want to put claws out also
I survived an abusive relationship with someone who said the exact same things to me to keep me under control and limit me because he was scared.
The exact same things. Only about my autism.
It's okay if it's scary.
It's okay if you don't want to argue right now.
But just be aware.
Ik, he was in a lot of abusive relationships before, especially his ex wife, maybe he picked up some behaviors he doesn't realize
My mom instincts are strong, and I dealt with a lot of people trying to suppress who I am in all of my relationships... parents, friends, partners. I had a super abusive ex. So like, I won't lie and say it's not triggering to hear the things he's saying to you. And I know I come off strong, but I care about you.
We are Obana, all of us in this chat
You're your own person. The second you stepped into a marriage was the second he accepted you as you are. If he did, anyway.
His past experiences are an explanation, not an excuse.
I had a girlfriend who, despite my being open with her about who I was, insisted on treating me like a cis woman and making repeated comments about how awful straight relationships would be and what would anyone want to be in a straight relationship. It’s a different situation, but it’s similar. I get some of where you are right now.
That's how my ex was too. I understand the abuse cycle is a thing. But some people use that as an excuse too.

Hide behind it like a shield while doing the things to others they had done upon them because it made them feel they were overcoming their own pain.
Oooo trust me I did
Some people deserve it
My boyfriend now makes repeated jokes about me being gay, which is so much nicer than my ex girlfriend making jokes about me being a lesbian
It’s one of those things to be careful about and watch out for
Make it slow
Look, you don't have to do anything. You don't need to confront him. But please, don't feel like you owe him a part of your identity.
As important as your identity is, your safety is also important.
Your safety, your mental health...
If he doesnt accept you for who you are is it worth being in a relationship with?
Emotional abuse is just as bad as physical
I'm not going to tell you to leave, or that he doesn't love you, because honestly, he probably does. But that does not negate what he said.
I just read this chat, and although I am trained somewhat in mental health counseling, you guys are doing well enough without me, I love this community
You can accidentally gaslight people.
It's very possible that's what's happening here.
Im not saying leave him but dont change yourself for no one you will be miserable for it
But if this is a pattern, this doesn't seem accidental anymore.
And besides accidental or not, if it's not healthy for you and this is me getting real for a second...
...you seem in a physically safe environment, so you have the time to become independent, do what you need to do to get there, and when you do, drop all baggage, even if that includes him still.
He may even have good intentions. It's possible. But you're coming here with pain and tears. You deserve to feel happiness and love.
Good intentions mean nothing if the outcome is all pain.
For every partner who loves you but accidentally projects their trauma onto you, there's someone who will love you, but, like... doesn't do that.
Yes!
...I hope it doesn't feel like we're pressuring you. I assure you, that's none of our intentions.
If it does, feel free to tell. I'll lay off then.
Ultimately, Digi, it's your choice. We are here to support you and point out what options exist, or offer advice. But you know yourself best. You know your situation best. I hope that you can find a solution that works for you. A solution that brings you comfort and happiness.
Hey sorry doctor is here I'll read all this when I'm done
Sure. Take your time.
sigh we talked some more, he kept calling me a beautiful woman and he thinks it's just cause I'm depressed and on my period and lack confidence etc..
He said he's worried I'm gonna get a sex change even after I explained what non-binary was and that I dont feel like a male
He seems afraid and confused. There's a barrier to his ability to understand you.
Yeah Ik I just dont know how I can explain any further
He at least made the compromise I can get one as long as I dont wear it every day
How do you feel about the amount of control he has over you? Is that something you want?
It's a compromise at least, I'm not gonna push it any further right now
Dysphoria is really bad now though after he kept on saying I'm a beautiful woman over and over again
My own fault for not correcting him but I couldn't think of a substitute for it in the moment
I like the term lovely person personally 
It isn't your fault. You did everything to explain your gender to him already.
Thank you
digi, you're a lovely person and you deserve to feel comfortable as yourself. I wish you the best in dealing with your situation and I wish I could offer more but have a virtual hug (if you want it) 
You're a person no matter what your gender is.
I also like being called a bean and a being 
Bean is cute
Hey, I'm pretty new to this server but as an enby myself — I love you for being you
Thank you <3
digi ive mostly been reading this stuff but not really saying much but you sound like a wonderful person and its good you've made progress but if it gets stuck like that, how it is right now, it would be a better idea to go imo though im not the master of good advice
I'm hoping he just needs time to accept it etc.
I've also been readings though this conversation and I'd like to add one thing. If it's possible maybe finding an academic book or paper (even an academic video might help) on the subject for him to read and take notes on may help him understand things better.
However, he may just need time to process these things considering the background he may have grown up in. I do wish you the best and hope that he comes around sometime soon though!
Hi
I think he understands it to an extent he just said I'm too young to decide that right now, if I'm still feeling that way when I'm 28 he'll accept it then
how old are you now?
21
so he wants you to wait 7 years before he'll accept it?
Apparently so
that's ridiculous
He just thinks I'm insecure in myself and dont need to put labels on me etc.
I'm sorry. That's not for him to decide. It's not like you're rushing into any surgery, you just want to change how you present, which? if you figure out in a year that you weren't nb? (not saying you will, just a hypothetical) having dressed in a way that makes you happy for a year won't hurt anyone
if you're insecure, shouldn't you be able to dress in a way that makes you more comfortable?
I know, he thinks instead I should get proper bras and then I'd like my chest which no that's the exact opposite of what I want to wear
in the most generous reading of this situation, he's being an idiot
You've had, what? a decade or so of likely wearing proper bras to decide if you like them or not?
so you've basically been binding for 4 years
ye i get that
i remember the first time i realized i could get away with wearing sports bras all the time
i was actually introduced to the double sports bra idea when i was playing a boy in a play in high school
though it took 4 more years to realize i was nb
so by his own logic, you know that this is what you like to do already.
I hate bras so much, they dig into my ribs and I feel like I'm sticking out hhh
And lately lots of dysphoria
ok digi im my opinion waiting 7 fucking years for him to accept you when youre already an adult who can drink, vote, and serve in the military (at least by my countries standards in my opinion you already know who you are and well small things might change i feel like hes just trying to delay that, 7 is on average like a bit more then a 10th of a human life for reference and if youre 21 youve already gone though i must note rounding down 3/10s which again is a lot
it sounds like it might not be the healthiest relationship for you
I obviously don't know you but I have to say I agree with cherry. You are not his child. If you're old enough to get married to him you're old enough to decide over your down damn body.
^ 100% agree with both of them
OOOohhhh Digi is Kats from earlier, I didn't realize cause both the name and picture changed. Listen I get where you're coming from Digi, it's a very complex situation. Both of you were raised in a kinda bigoted environment and deconstructing all that misguided stuff takes a lot of time to understand. And that's something you understand since it took you a while to start coming to terms with this identity. I never advocated for how rushed this got and I hope you don't feel put down by everyone saying "you need to leave him" in the same way he's telling you "you can't wear a binder everyday"(which honestly reading this angers me a little cause it)
's like "I'm older I know better"
Oh shiz I didn't want to hit send yet
Oh wait they the same peoples
yeah it was said a little earlier, I had thought we had two people with similar problems
Ok, I didn’t read all the messages tbh
this is the only channel I read all the messages in tbh I skip most messages in other channels
I'm obviously not saying you need to break up with him right now. I just want you to be careful. Relationships with age gaps this big can become really ugly really quickly. Especially when he starts weaponizing his own life experience against you and you're financially dependant on him.
But right back to what I was saying here, it's clear he loves you. You made that clear. And I think your right, he probably needs time. He communicated that he feels it will take 7 years. But I think he'll cave before that. It's unfortunate that he has all those trust issues from the other relationships, cause that's probably making him lash into seeking more control over you(and the situation) in a time where he's being forced into a lot of change. And I think you have sympathy since you had a long journey getting here BUT LET ME TELL YOU something I was told about parents, PEOPLE 👏 CAN 👏 TRY 👏 TO 👏 DO 👏 THE 👏 BEST👏 FOR 👏 YOU👏 AND👏 STILL 👏 HAVE👏 CAUSED👏 YOU👏 HARM. @rose ice
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😬 yeah and it was on the one thing that wasn't in defense of Digi's husband
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I think if you haven't already talked about your journey with double sports bras for four years, it might be worth telling but figure out how you want to tell it. And yeah there is a whole misunderstanding of not feeling female = feeling male. But I mean humans struggled with the concept of zero for a loooooong time. My ex once said about their mood that they feel numb to the concepts people were assigning to them. And that they felt uncomfortable that people were assigning the labels of these concepts to them when it was a lack of them all. While I don't care what people label me in my Agender, maybe that's not what you feel. And maybe the first hurdle is to get him to understand the idea of feeling zero percent female and zero percent male. He is kinda treating you like a parent treats getting a tattoo, (if you still want to get it in a year then you can get it) but he is taking it to an extreme by asking for 7 years. It seems to hurt you on some level though. And you voiced how you didn't know how to say some of the things you want to say. Maybe you can practice with us, or we can advise on some wording. Sorry you have to deal with these patterns of hurt while he still needs to learn about things @rose ice
Yeah. All of these must be a new experience for him too. While his "7 years due" is weirdly specific, I think he just needs time you know. From what I see, you've been giving out a lot of new things to him in a short amount of time. I think he needs time to process it all put first before you start telling him about other stuff you never told him before. Everything is a progress, don't rush it.
You can't really expect people from bigoted environment to immediately accept you since the mindset is already deeply ingrained in their brain. The more you push him to accept in a short period of time, the more abrasive he become.
Iirc you told him not too long ago you were still not over your bestfriend. Then not long after you told him you are poly and enbi. I think everything is coming to him a little too fast?
He believed in the bigoted mind for years after all, it takes time but if he's truly a good person, he will surely accept you with time
He sounds like he's proyecting (sp?) on you. I don't know what else i can add to what all of this amazing people have told you yet, but you deserve to be treated with respect and love for who you are and not what he wants you to be.
@rose ice I would like to apologize if I made you feel pressured or put on the spot. From what you've said, it's obvious you love each other and, honestly, you know your relationship better than anyone else.
To me it sounds like he worries more about what people will think than about the happiness of his partner
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Hi
henlo
How's it going? :3
Same.
Pretty good here
trying to be ~Awake~
What's the time?
Here? 14:48
22:49 for me
Wow, really in the Easten hemisphere, there
UK
It's cooling down here
I'm from the UK originally lol
Weather here's just tempermental
Netherlands. Election anxiety's hitting hard.
Ooof, hang in there!
Yyyeaaah, snow all the way, all day 😄
I remember finally getting snow in the Netherlands. And then being over it after like 3 days.
Hale ? I forgot lol
Sometimes I miss the snow, but being in an area of mild climate has a lot of advantages
Especially since it's so fricking rare to get it
Yeah, I feel you. I live in the more southern part of Finland these days so snowy winters aren't a guarantee. Last year was practically snowless and even though I appreciated the fact that without mounds of snow everything functioned smoother I still missed proper winters.
I was so glad we got a really cold, really snowy winter this year, even i the south
Is Finland nice to live in?
Yeah, it is. At least if you like peace and quiet. And lots of nature.
Are the laws friendly ?
For lgbtq+? Depends, really. We've got equal marriage and adoption laws that are good. But laws regarding transitioning for transgendered people could definitely be better and the process a lot smoother. Not to mention laws concerning non-binary people are pretty much non-existant.
Lot's of change has been going on though. So fingers crossed, maybe things will get fixed soon!
Yeah, to my understanding the situations are pretty comparable
Finland too. Mostly directed at immigrants, although luckily hate crime is not terribly common here.
Also wage gap is brought up a lot
Australia's taken a lot of heat because of the offshore detention centres
That's good to hear. Sometimes outside pressure speeds up the process of dismantling harmful stuff like that.
Oh the war crimes were recent too
I don't think I've heard of those tbh?
Aussie SAS caught executing (also torturing?) Afghan civilians/children I believe
I'm also pretty sure they're trying to cover it up
.....oh
I heard that the guy investigating the war crimes was having people who were trying to charge him for investigating
That's practically an admission of guilt
Australia's government is pretty shady
The bushfires were also the government's fault
The pm was a trump boot licker as well
Now the news drama is the royal family for some stupid reason
Blame Prince Charles.
They're all shit lol
They aren't, though.
Who lol
Meghan and Harry are fine, I was considering them separate
William is kinda dodge tho
To my understanding they have pretty much separated themselves from the court at this point, yeah
How dare you speak that way of the future king!1!!1 How so?
A lot of talk saying that he's not exactly faithful to his wife
I don't know any of them well enough to personally dislike them. I just hate the fact that we still uphold royal families as some sort of monument.
That's a problem I have as well
They also have a pretty big blood purity thing going on as well
And prince Andrew is scum
People will deadass celebrate people the toppling of statues depicting slavers and then keep up with drama surrounding fake-monarchic families.
I think the family wants people to focus on Harry and meg instead of prince Andrew
Oh God, did y'all see the absolute hissy-fit Piers Morgan threw?
I hope the family loses some influence soon, they really have no business possessing any sort of political pull
And no I haven't
I have not. Is there video?
It's hillarious. Sec.
Oh, when he got called out and quit that morning show?
Oh my god that sounds hilarious
On Tuesday, Piers Morgan stormed off the set of ‘Good Morning Britain’ after his colleague, Alex Beresford, called him out for slamming Meghan Markle on the show following her interview with Oprah Winfrey. Shortly after, ITV, the network behind ‘Good Morning Britain,’ confirmed Morgan has left the show.
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Literally that.
I laughed so hard. Absolute man-child.
Baby lol
He truly is more fragile than a faberge egg.
There's an old clip resurfacing of him complaining with crushed masculinity how Meghan Markle ghosted him and since then, he's been doing this.
Another thing I don't like about William that I admit is petty of me is how crusty he looks lol
So much money to uphold them, some of it should have been Maybelene kek
We have a royal family in the Netherlands as well and they're just... politically neutered and useless.
I know someone who's applying for citizenship in the Netherlands and has to learn about the Dutch society. I just hope to God they're not wasting time on royal trivia.
Royal family's are just dumb lol
Kids are lovely though. They seem to just wanna vibe.
incredibly privileged though I would imagine
Well, that's unavoidable in that situation.
Of course, but that's hardly their fault or responsibility.
I know, I'm just prickly
I get it ngl. I'm leaning on the socialist side of things, so just someone asking me if I'm celebrating King's Day or wearing something orange makes me want to vomit.
I don't think that being put off on monarchs necessarily makes someone a socialist. Like, things are labelled as socialist that really shouldn't be
Like free healthcare is considered to be commie hell lol
You think everyone deserves healthcare, food and housing-
Yeah, that meme.
We do have a Socialist Party in the Netherlands, but it's just... so incredibly weak.
Right now the socialist party of Finland is one of the two major parties in goverment
Socialism is "too extreme" for us in the UK.
Not even due to lack of seats, just how they choose to manage their platform. It's just moralising and railing against the establishment and coming up with lackluster alternatives in turn.
Along with the Green Party and the.... How should I even call it? The Even More Socialist Party?
Have you heard about the "lgbt free zones" in Poland I think
Oooooooh yeah. Horrible.
Socialist+.
Bruh.
Since when did the straights need spafe spaces tf?
We had a chance and we blew it and villainized the man that would have gotten us closer :<
I'm pretty sure Russia also puts people in camps currently
The world is the straight safe space, no extra needed
Hey, at least he's the chair of the senate budget committee.
Are you talking about Bernie? I am not American lol
o-
I was talking about Corbyn 😂
soz
Oh God, I completely bought the nonsense too.
Yeah. There's a pretty significant amount of lgbtq refugees originally from Russia in Finland
Bernie is the avatar
Back then, I was still in that whole alt-right pipeline situation, pretending to care about the wellbeing of minorities if it was about a lefty.
Harnessing populism, electoralism, democracy and justice in perfect harmony.
I'm pretty sure he was arrested for protesting for black rights in like the 70s
A true legend
I consider myself a refugee of America, being forced to live in America 😅
😩 👌
There was this... oh God, translating this from Dutch is going to be a hassle.
The old party leader of the Pirate Party in the Netherlands, Ancilla van de Leest. I wish I'd known about her last election, jesus.
She was absolutely brilliant on digital matters, civil rights and surveillance.
No one cool ever gets elected lol
The fact y'all have a Pirate Party makes me happy
They don't have seats though. 😢 And aren't polled to get any now either.
They've never made it to the government seats unfortunately
Same 😔
AOC 2024 is humanity's last hope lol
I love AOC so very much
AOC-POG AOC-POG
The German Pirate Party has one seat in the European Parliament. So.
Oh wow. The best pirates come from Germany, it looks like
Damn she would need a miracle to get elected
What is a... "European Parliament"? /s Cries in Brexit
God BoJo can get W R E C K E D
Really? Isn't she the most popular non-president politician world wide?
I hate that man
Honestly so sorry you are getting fucked over by Brexit
Senate of the EU basically, I think.
I didn't vote for this! 😂
Sadly, that was British Sarcasm. It is a special kind.
fek
AOC won't be 35 then sadly LOL- we have to wait until 2028 I think. I think she's 29 now?
I thought she was gonna be eligible next election
Damn my autistic, Dutch brain. DX
Oh my bad 😦 damn time is going too fast
Nah, sarcasm is hard to read on the internet, and if you didn't know Inju was from Britain, you wouldn't have guessed the joke. ❤️
Maybe bernie could get it if we can turn him into a lich
Bernie with AOC as VP, that could work haha
Bernie with the steel chair
I did put /s but honestly it's still not a catch-all "this is sarcasm" identifier hehe
Overthrow the government. Eat the rich.
hyped
🍴
I'm glad to be corrected on that! AOC 2024 it is haha
she'll just turn 35 right before election day
Meanwhile over here.
Poor Bernie is ancient
God he's like the budget version of Donald Trump
America please tell me how to remove the bad hair man.
Let the man rest tf. 🤣 He's done so much for us already.
which like.. thank God he's not quite as bad but also like.. still not great!
He really is it's uncanny!
he can serve for a day and then go lmao
I was just ABOUT TO SAY "oh the discount cheeto man" :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Oh my God, you're right. Then she'd be pres.
Also, just.. as an aside... we should not get too deep into politics here as that -can- be a touchy subject and we're trying to avoid all out arguments or whatever.
He's been in politics for longer that Trump at least. It just means he has more buddies.
So as a mod attempting to do some mod duties, just... a warning to keep it on the lighter side or anecdotes, etc.
Ahkay. I'll try not to get too polarizing.
We will endeavour to keep the conversation light and non-polarising
Honestly, this just fits too nicely.
(but as a human bean like.. please eat the rich, implement UBI or get rid of currency all together, post-capitalist utopia plz)
(Hell yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss)
Damn, there's no cicle.
I know, it's a Crime.
But yeah, deadass, UBI would literally change society as a whole. Just as one implemented measure.
Unemployement wouldn't be as bad, so there's less need to complain about immigration and automation, running a company is cheaper, everyone has the time to get adjusted to society, homelessness would drop...
Galactic Senate world government
It's an EU party that was erected as a response to Brexit. It wants to make the EU radically more democratic and turn the EU into a federalist state.
Critical of the EU, but also says "And we have just the solution", instead of "So let's just let Russia invade us."
Lemme find the vid real quick.
Oooh yes please
Volt is a pan-European, progressive movement that stands for a new and inclusive way of doing politics and that wants to bring real change to all European citizens. A new pan-European approach is needed to overcome current and future challenges, such as - among many others - climate change, economic inequality, migration, international conflict,...
They also have parties in individual countries, counties and cities.
They're kicking ass in the Netherlands. First time running and they're estimated to get 3, possibly 4 seats. (I'm gonna guess 5 tho.)
On a sidenote, this is the lgbtq group of the server, so I feel safe doing this:
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I'm high-key simping for the Pirate Party leader this election.
hambsomb
I can definitely see the appeal.
I would make a joke about pirates and booty, but I don't know how family friendly the chat needs to be.
At least coral island has plenty of simping material
we like to keep the server pretty above board/pg, though we're not very strict on cursing as much
Aight, noted.
Pg simping
Pirate booty 👀
Summoned by the pirate booty 😄
Ducktective!
YES!
Strawberry milk time
Strawberry milk!!!!
good morning fellow gays, I see we're simping today
It's midnight for me lol
good midnight, fellow gay
Ditto
have you considered sleep?
But I'm eating yogurt and granola
okay, food first
Remember to drink some water too!
And additional strawberry milk
root beer milk
ooh very good 🍓
I am at the same time concerned and intrigued.
............not sure how i feel about the root beer milk
Mostly concerned
I definitely would not drink it but I can't be certain if it's truly cursed or it's just bc I don't like root beer
It's delicious, .... kinda nutritious RING RING BANANA PHONE
great, if i wasn't already listening to music you would have got banana phone stuck in my head
it's a childhood staple
I am so glad I don't know that song
it's a good song, I just don't need the distraction of lyrics in my head today
But yes root beer milk is exactly like root beer but like a thicker texture
Gross
Concern intensifies
.....Might check it out in that case
it's bad enough I can't get Barrett's Privateers out of my head.... it's been almost a week...... I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier
It combines my two favorite things, the texture of milk and the taste of root beer
....I am glad you have found such a beautiful marriage of the two things you enjoy
okay, you've convinced me, root beer milk Fine in Theory (I'm still not drinking it myself though)
Love wins
Lucky for you I seem to hate it, so there is more for you!
valid
Sïster
I feel you. Coconut flakes just. Heck me up.
No I get it I dislike the taste of banana so if you dislike taste of root beer I get it
oh I can't stand the taste of artificial banana
😢
I don’t know if what the heck is the right question, but I think why the heck is
Who can
When I was 16 I ate pasta with custard
About the banana
natural banana is on thin ice.... i like the texture of real banana but if it's too ripe it just tastes So Much
For me it's the other way around. Too unripe and the texture and taste just.... No. Nu-uh.
I hate green beans.
that's fair! babana not for everyone
Just the texture and the dry flavor and... ugh.
Even with spices, I can feel it rubbing against my teeth and hear it squeak and just-
i like the dry sweetness of a just barely underripe banana, on its own or chopped up with nutella
I hate bananas but if you put a banana in the fridge for a day, the peel turns black but the banana inside is very ok and the texture is creamy, good for putting in banana bread
but too underripe and yeah, not tasty at all, so I get you
.....I must try this
And smoothies! If you freeze them you don't even need ice cream!
banana chocolate chip oatmeal muffins............. it's on google docs if anyone's interested
Sounds delish
I like bananas best in my cereal where the banana flavor can soak into my milk
They sell banana milk though
Pog
And it’s not artificial banana flavor?
Nevermind Nesquick is the seller, don't buy
Banana smoothies in the morning~ 😌
I trust banana milk as much as strawberry milk, which is to say, not at all
Feels bad because I have nesquick
Cringe
Use every gram of it out of spite.
It is already bought, use it up to make good of the resources
Make a foamy chocolate-milk balloon and toss it at the headquarters.
Now there's an idea
nesquik chocolate milk syrup is the only nestle product I'm still tied to at this point 😔 if I could find an equivalent syrup by a better company I'd switch in a heartbeat, but I Need my Sauce
This makes me think of people I know who still get Chik-Fil-A
also RESIPPY https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u85M3RMDuugMhef5myip7TKqK_fjlMV7y5xqzlauZLY/edit?usp=sharing
Shi’s Family Signature Banana Chocolate Chip Oatmeal Muffins Ingredients 1 c rolled oats 1 c whole milk 2 c all purpose flour ½ c white sugar 1 c chocolate chips (heaping) 5 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda 1 tsp salt ½ tsp cinnamon ¼ tsp nutmeg ½ c vegetable oil 2 egg 2 tsp vanilla 2 c mas...
I know I shouldn't buy nestle, basically corpo Satan
Australia doesn't have chik fil a anyway lol
Yeah I have this issue with a specific ice cream, because Nestle went ahead and bought a Finnish ice cream producer
I feel like nestle own most of the decent shit here
Would it work with a sugar replacement, like maple syrup, you think?
Put it in #🍱coral-foodies because 1. it should be there, and 2. Banana is 🤢 for me
I've never seen a chick-fil-a in my neck of Canada either, and I don't eat chicken anyway..... but I still don't like them 
Honestly, the few times when I have been like hmmm Chick Fil A kind of sounds good, it’s been a Sunday anyway
I will do that thank you!!
You can copy their recipes online
I’ve never eaten a chick fil a and never plan to
Most recipes work with maple syrup!
But it’s easy cause it isn’t it my neck of the woods
yisss
Other fast food chains are starting to mimic Chick-fil-A’s sandwiches and it’s so funny to me
Just remember to take the extra liquid you're putting in into account!
I got real bad food poisoning my senior year of high school because of a fast food chicken sandwich so I tend to avoid them anyway
yeah I can see the muffins working with maple syrup! Might want to use a wee bit less liquid elsewhere so they don't get too soggy! You could probably go scant on the milk
they built a chik fil a in my town and it was really weird watching lgbtq people in my friend group bend over backwards for mediocre lemonade
Aight, will remember, thanks!
like you literally know what theyre doing . it is hurting you personally . but ok the lemonade is "worth it"
make your own dang lemonade....... it's not really even hard??
there's this quick dry choclate syrup that's better than Heresy syrup and Nesquick
Honestly, with easy recipes like that, I don't even buy them from stores or foodplaces anymore.
"Ooh, you're in Amsterdam, so instead of making a coffee at like 0.05 cents cost, we're going to upcharge that 100x."
mAkInG fOoD aT hOmE iS eXpEnSiVe
Damn nesquick made me feel shit lol
I've tried that quick dry stuff and it might be decent on ice cream but it's not a workable substitute for the Nesquik syrup in the other contexts I use it for (turning whole milk into chocolate milk, adding chocolate flavour to milkshakes, occasionally as a cereal topping)
I grew up on Nesquick. It sucked to drop them. DX
I mean I feel sick lol
o
My retribution
Hey, it's okay. The world has a lot of things wrong with it and there is literally no ethical consumption under capitalism. You don't have to feel bad.
my other Nestle holdout is they bought up Carnation hot chocolate... but I've recently been trying other brands
We all try to make the best choices we can, but 100% is impossible
I started growing vegetables, fruit and flowers if that helps
It absolutely does!
honestly Nestle chocolate isn't even that good, Cadbury Dairy Milk tastes better and is fair trade
Oh God, that's so awesome.
I have like a plant. And that's it.
I mostly like it since helps me relax
Nature tends to have that effect on people.
mmmmmmm
It also helps me feel productive
I love the idea of gardening irl but growing enough of my own food to make a dent in my diet isn't really possible for me given my area/living space.... I do keep a little succulent on my desk though, it's my little buddy :)
I've been keeping my desk better lit since my desk lamp doubles as a grow light for my little jade plant, it's been getting me through the harsh Canadian winter
I honestly plan to save up on a rentable garden plot with my cousin and then just.... Vegetables. All of the vegetables.
Same situation here. In an assisted housing facility cause I can't manage my own place (or find one, for that matter, yay housing crisis).
fuck I should swear off dairy f
Nevermind enough space to grow fruits and veggies.
Almond milk is very healthy compared to dairy milk, if that's a step you wanna take. But if you feel ashamed, you don't need to be.
Like Hush said, we're forced to pick the least harmful option, so we're not the culpable ones.
That's absolutely a choice you can make, but try to make it with a positive mind set, not out of guilt or other negative baggage ❤️
You experience will be vastly different and the shift easier
Well I need to go check on the house and then pass out but I won't have internet at the house so have a nice night/day everyoone
I mean I feel sick again, sorry lol
I even had lactose free
My diet is too limited for sensory reasons for me to feel comfortable cutting too much out of my diet for ethical reasons, so I'll continue eating dairy and just try to make sure the cows are treated okay
Nice day!
Yeah, sounds like it's not only the lactose that's the problem then
I do enjoy some chocolate soy milk on occasion, though... it's a good source of b vitamins for me
That's perfectly valid! If it's not healthy for you, mentally or physically, you should stick to what's better for you.
A valid choice. We do the best we can with the hands we're dealt
I think I have an iron problem too lol
Like I personally can't transition into a completely vegan diet because of metabolical issues, so I just. Cut back on meat as much as possible, and source any animal products I use as ethically as I can.
I did a unprompted bloodtest, but I'm too scared to check the results.
It's been like a month. 😬
I did the same lol
Ooof, you should definitely get that checked out, iron deficiencies can get super nasty really fast
I have a fear of doctors
I just remember hearing someone talking about how they were discouraged from going vegan by their (doctor? therapist? some professional) until they got their eating disorder under control bc when it's hard to eat already, you shouldn't make it any harder on yourself.... and even though I don't have an ED exactly, that still resonated with me
I'm supposed to see doctors about gender stuff but I'm not comfortable with it
Do you have anything that would make it more comfortable for you? Like some people have comfort items etc. Or could you work with your doctor so you can maybe work/meet in a more comfortable setting
That's really true. Food restrictions should be able improving your relationship with food, not about shame. That way, it's easier to manage the restrictions and you don't feel like shit!
Also other mental shit too I thinkhave but again I'm not comfortable talking about my head lol
Understandable
Valid.
I'm nervous around doctors for two reasons: had basically the bare minimum exposure to them as a kid so there's the baseline fear of the unknown there, and I have a phobia of hypodermic needles that I've been trying to work through before I have to get Vaccinated
My gf went with me when I was sick last year but I didn't like the doctor I had so I felt sort of vindicated with no wanting to see doctors lol
Yo, getting that bloodtest done spiked my fight-or-flight so hard. Sweating, breathing and I could feel my pupils dilate.
Was actually kind of fun in hindsight, if I'm honest.
I believe to get hrt in Australia you need to see a doc And then a shrink
Which sucks for me lol
Yeah, it's the same here.
Also, awesome of you for trying to get over your fear of needles!
Do you have any other trusted people you could take with you to the doctor's to make it easier on you?
Friends?
That's tough.
I'm also put off doing anything since I known by family would flip
That is very understandable. As terrible as waiting is, it's smart to wait until you're safe
I do live away
Alright, that's good then :3 but mental safety is safety too and you absolutely deserve that along with physical safety ❤️
My family acted like I killed the dog when my friend painted my nails when I was a kid lol
So I'm kinda put off hrt lol
My mum messaged about visiting me recently and I then had a nightmare about it that night
That's still valid. The only one who has any say in your transition is you and if right at this moment you can't continue on with hrt because of how your situation is or makes you feel, well then that is how it is, you get to choose how to proceed. Just remember not to let your family control that process too much. You deserve to be in a body that feels like yours ❤️
Oooof I know that feel. I get nightmares about my mother visiting too, just not for the same reasons as you
Even without my family I'm still scared of other things about it
Yeah, it's a big process. It's super normal to be scared, with or without the fear of doctors in the mix
Also last time my mum visited she found some of my clothes since she stayed in my room lol
I said it was my roommates and must've gotten mixed in the laundry lol
She Said something like, "oh well you're not into anything funny are you" in a joking manner
Oh no that's just. No.
oh yikes
I'm just glad she didn't find some other stuff lol
But still was kinda sucky
I didn't think she'd look in my wardrobe
Certified cringe moment
That's honestly pretty disrespectful of your privacy
heaven forbid she asks you first...
Haven't seen her since lol
Was about June of last year
I denied going up for Christmas since I always get verbally abused and treated like shit
that is so uncool of her ngl
Good for you. I'm glad you didn't have to go through that on Christmas ❤️
^^^^
My mum had a tantrum on messenger lol
I can only imagine lmao
shit, you don't need that in your life
I wrote a really long and honest response only she basically ignored it and vagueposted on fb
Like she didn't respond at all lol
I'd post it here but it's probably too saucy
Was a shame since I spent ages writing it
She sounds like such a mature human being, truly >_>
I mean like too much drama/oversharing
Bad phrasing lol
Ah sorry
No need to apologise, you made a pretty reasonable conclusion. Chat convos just be like that
Faking death would be handy
I also figured I could just say what I am and then maybe they'd just ditch me lol
You could do that whole "BEHOLD MORTALS I HAVE BEEN BORN ANEW!" routine.
Be a lich
#goals
Assault charges ahoy
I probably wouldn't tbh
Yeah, it's hard when it's family
I despise my step father lol
Honestly, he probably deserves that
Worst person I know
Sounds like a ray of sunshine, truly
Lol sorry for spilling all my drama
Heyyy no worries. We all gotta unpack every once in a while
True peace will be when he dies lol
I was actually close with my mum before she got married again
Big f
I hope she one day realises what a scum she married and you get to mend your relationship
Lesbianism: the key to happiness
idk man lesbians are all known disasters, we try though xD
but in all seriousness I am sorry about your situation Mag, I really hope it gets better over time ❤️
and don't even worry about spilling anything, if we can help you organise your thoughts and feeling better, it's all that matters
At least most lesbians have at least some sense lol
oh you've never met one of my best friends xD
Also thanks
my god I love the girl but oh boy.
No matter where you fall on the rainbow the Disaster is in the name
Ah, so I Should return to cis
Just a Full Colour Spectrum Disaster 😄
you should go to whatever makes you feel at home in your own skin
My gf lol
An excellent destination
The person that hates my family more then me
I feel like the the crux of the matter for a lot of people, if not most, so whatever step you can take towards that, go for it
It's almost always the partner that hates the family more then you
(as long as it doesn't endanger you or others that is)
I absolutely despise my fiancée's mother and stepfather
Been there. If someone mistreated me, I'd be less passionate than if someone mistreated my partner.
I suppose I'm more used to it lol
Yeah, you usually become numb to it
well as the partner you can see all the bullshit without the emotion and years or even decades worth of experience tangled there
And the whole fact that you love them/used to love them complicates things even further
Her parents are cool so I don't have to worry
that's awesome ❤️
My fiancée is numb to what her parents put her through
I have to be the one to point out how fucked up what they do is
We love supportive parents / parents who try.
my god I hated my ex's mother, she ruined her in so many ways
I didn't really hate my family until I moved out
sup Cola
the earth
Yeah my family have seen my fiancée as part of their own since we started dating
Ayyyy how are ya?
Feel that. My ex projected trauma onto me that he got from his parents. That was kind of the driving force between my absolute hatred of them.
My gosh it's 6 years next week now
yeah my ex's mum basically treated her like she wasn't incapable of anything without her and that if she even tried to emancipate for her family just a little bit she'd collapse and fail
Casually defying the laws of physics. Nice
and pfft let's not even talk about telling her her daughter's not 100% straight
nah graves exist
well everyone laws exist to be broken ;D
After all, how can you determine your own sexuality if you can't determine anything separate from mumsy dearest.
that's why we have quatuum physics
Can I trade my mum for a ps5
I feel like that is not an option, but it really should be
No but you can trade her for a coupon for a Nintendo switch!
ah yes, one of my favorite ideologies, any laws opress people, even those of nature
you can sell her for one cornchip
Already got a switch, I'd like a ps5 with the disc drive and or an xbox
Also E without the psych appointment thx
honestly screw the ps5 gimme a 3080 for free 🤣
Ah but you could sell the switch you get to buy the ps5
those are harder to find that the holy grail these days
Okay I know I'm old school but am I like the only 1 who would love this game on the 3DS??????
Just for the nostalgia.
I don't think it'd do justice to the graphics tbh
Does it sweeten the pot if all her organs are good
well if you add sugar to the pot, sure
Oh then you'd definitely get a coupon for the ps5
Worth it for ratchet and clank
absolutely
And sexy demon souls
gotta love going from how to get a ps5 to how to summon Satan
Pretty sure you'd need the body of a loved one for that anyway.
Can't wait to sell my fiancée's mother to get a FFXIV subscription
hilariously I'm the same way. but ffxiv just hits different for me
Oh my fiancée couldn't either until we played FFXIV together
mmos suck imo
I've always loved them but xiv hit different
Sad that my fiancée doesn't like farming games
😔
I get into mmos (only free ones) and then I miss a day and I’m like oh no I can’t face having lost all my streaks on things so I never play again
She likes watching me play slime rancher though
okok but do yall remember wizard 101?
Oh absolutely
XIV has like, the best Final fantasy story line in a long time for me personally, it's been amazing fun for me
certified boomer
I really tried getting into stardew, but the kind of smallish pixelated style was really hard for me to process :c ended up dropping it
I was never allowed to play wizard 101 😔
Can't have final fantasy without my special boy cloud
wizard 101 was kinda uh
it was fine other then how htey marketed it as free then you had to pay to get past the first act
Yeah
I also used to play a load of AQ Worlds
What about club penguin
ah i heard my summoning phrases - Wizard 101 and AQW
lmao i had to look up all these save for club penguin, my computer game knowledge is awful
Pizza minigame
i used to be so into wizard 101
I wasn't allowed membership
😔
Runescape was my ✨ passion ✨
and i think i still have an AQW account
My dad let me get 2 memberships in games a year
Barely play it now though.
i am playing AQ3D as well though
Flex
oooh, good ol' runescape
So I had club penguin and Moshi monsters membership
Though the latter was alternated with Roblox membership
My incel friend Still plays runescape
i didn't even know runescape was still up, that's cool
I should get my ffxiv membership again so my fiancée and I can get married in it
I’d love to find a game where people actually role play, not just grind for levels
Better yet, they have a retro-version of it and the new version.
I tried runesscape oooonce back when I also still had dial up, that was obvi a disastee
Last time I talked to him he was trying to convince me the gays threatened Nintendo to remove gender from animal crossing
WHEEEEEZEEEEE
*cough based
Just nonbinarytopia.
Runescape pilled
Specifically the gays, too, not even the trans people? I'd think gays would want all the characters to be bears and twinks or something.
He just Said all lgbt lol
O-
It's spooky because he's in uni to be a teacher
i mean there was a thing about that but it doesnt really matter imo
Oh God, what's he gonna teach?
it was just like one of those things of people who get offended easily getting mad
He spent a year growing out his thumb nail, cut it off and still has it in a box
like i haven't seen even 1 person trying to destroy the binary xD in my exp i've only seen people trying to make people realize gender is a spectrum and not ones and zeros, bt not like full-on remove genders from games XD
English
Please don't say Political Science or something. I'll be very numb, but it might be-
fnv is great for representation
...Honestly, that's hillarious. English teachers are largely lefty anyway, so he's gonna have a tough time.
This was back in high school in 2016 and he Still has it
ew
i mean some characters are straight some bi (like ooga wooga checkered suit man) and some homosexual like chad ||manny||
in fnv
He wanted to teach maths but he dropped it
I dunno how he's gonna teach, he's honestly the creepiest dude I know
he should teach potato
oh god
"is potato what you not get?"
potatoes are delicious, let him teach Brussel sproutes
Is keeping a long nail in a Tupperware container healthy
no
He told me he takes it out occasionally I think
that's uh I'm never talking to you ever again Grounds lmao
brussel sproutes > potatoes
gasp
Not based
(btw sorry if i actaully sound rude)
says the french fry stan
I hate mashed potatoes
but once baked?
cringe not based
I'm having baked potatoes for dinner~ stuffed with mashed potatoes, cheese and corned beef
The butter makes it yucky
you dont need to add butter if you dont like it
I like the skins too
Can't believe you called me cringe 😔
its just the same as saying not based in that context
be gay do crimes?
Epic gamer
being used is also very uncool
so dont let people use you
that was just me referncing a song that time btw
if youre used its not your fault
"They put the gays in the video games and now I'm mad" - based af
Actually trans
have you not heard our lords scripture? /j
the chemicals in the water turning the freakin frogs gay
...aoc-pog
yall may want aoc but personally my current opinion is jorgenson if she gets that far again
AOC pulls off a trickshot with bernie for the white house
Fuck the first female/latina president, the youngest president, we need the first gamer president.
knowing yall prob dont know who i speak of she was the libertarian party nomine for the 2020 election
AOC 2024: Not sus.
nah man we need the first dice goblin president
I know
I didn't know her. What's cool about her?
wow someone who actaully knows gj i give you a clap 👏
for one legalized drugs which doesnt effect me personally but would get a lot of people out of jail for victimless crimes
thats right no more war on drugs 😎
thats just one thing
Big bang theory Sheldon president
im in class now or else id list
Aight.
fun fact tho
jorgensen was gonna be at the presidentical debate
but they wouldnt let her in
._. That's so messed up.
F
I bet that would have instantly vastly increased the viability of third-parties too.
I love that the gays took over this chat as their own general chat instead of being in the general chats. Like. I don't mind it, and it was kinda the purpose of the chat was to have a more inclusive space, especially to talk about lgbtq issues... But also... I dunno. It's just funny to me.
This is the general chat what do you mean
Us queers are too cool for genchat.
this is the only chat
The generally based chat
We're too precious to sully ourselves.
hello fellow gays i'm on my lunch break
as we said this is the only chat
Pog
hivemind?
Pog
we need a alien shades emote
Based
we all agree the golem from lotrs is based right?
ye my teach just dissed him
Cringe
guys
he just asked if we only listen to 1 song what would it be
should i say the only one they fear is you?
or something from stardew
add krobus stardew to smash
Add cloud to smash again
Add Steve urkel to smash
She was the first lesbian in space after all
why wouldnt you want sally ride in smash
Why not both based
shlee the mod in smash?
Fifa man in smash
mee6 in smash
Johnny cyberbadgame to smash
add madicalme123 to smash
npnp <3
Cherried cola to smash
Fortnite to smash ?
My bad boss
not bad at all <3
<3
Thank you all for what you said. Yes me and my husband love each other lots and lots, we're the type of people that believe communication is key (why I told him) and that we need to work things out and get marriage counseling before even considering divorce. He's loved and supported me for a year now and I think he's just genuinely having a hard time understanding it. He doesn't know anyone who's enby so it's a first time experience for him. But I know he loves me and he's said so and apologized etc. But yes this is Kats, I changed my name to Digi atm though
Valid.
Based
Yay I look flat today with this shirt and double sports bra
Woo!! Be careful with keeping them on for a long time!
(A psa from your local asthmatic XD)
Ik, they aren't too tight, no where near as tight as a binder would be, but the combination of them and this shirt helps a lot
Baggy clothes are the trademark of trans folks of every caliber 🤣
Baggy clothes rule
Meanwhile, I kinda have to wear form fitting clothes because baggy stuff has a tendency to make me feel uncomfortable
I relate, but only with pants/skirts.
If anything is flipping or flopping near my ankles or on my legs I simply perish.
I love hoodies and pullovers but they still have to be feminine in cut and fit, else I just... nope out
Yeah I'm the opposite, the baggier the better xD
And that's 100% fair and valid 
You are also valid <3
I had this phase in my life where, despite being a cis woman, I had this sense of "I wish I was female" which... is so weird because I am? And was back then? 😂 I also used to have really short hair and I just can't wear it anymore
I love when I have short hair, I've got medium length hair rn though cause I want to dye it etc.
I do love long hair tho, just not the taking care of it part
Yeah, very much the same xD I prefer between chin and shoulder length
Long hair is too stressful, but the short hair is just not my thing
I love it on other people but not on myself
I'm too fat to have short hair, and I like long hair, but I don't like feeling it on my neck, so I wear my hair in a messy bun or pony tail all the time anyway, so I keep thinking of shaving my head, but then like, my husband doesn't want me to and also growing out my undercut sucked?
oh god yes. I had an undercut for a while and that's horrible to grow out
Ooh yeah when I had long hair it was up in a messy bun all of the time
Never done an undercut before but I've had it really really short and that's a pain to grow out too haha
I am always one to encourage a full shave.
I can't have long hair. Anything touching my ears or neck makes me unable to function
I love french braids
I give myself french braids all the time
I cannot French braid to save my life
I can do two kinds of braids, neither very well.
I taught myself to make them, as well as fishbraids, dutch braids, various styles of buns, and 50 style hairdos
I can french braid but not on my own head
my hair's down to my bum, if I didn't know how to braid them I'd die xD
I can do a 4 branch style of french braid that I love
ends up looking a bit like a celtic braid
4 branch I couldn't manage on myself, but also my hair is not long enough for it
but I adore 4 branch braids
they're sooo pretty !
Yesss! Because my hair only ever goes to shoulders and slightly longer, I usually only manage 2 or 3 rounds of braiding after finishing off the part on my head
that's handy for more retro hair styles though
idk if you've ever tried making a victory roll with nearly 3ft long hair, but I have
and lemme tell you it's NOT FUN 🤣
MOOD
also WEH I’m at work rn and my body is going “you know what, I would actually like this binder off”
And I still have an hour left to work
yikes ><
I’m not loving it 🙃
yo its a mee
Vix did you watch the darrington brigade one shot?
cherried cola!
Ooooh you should it's very good
The victory roll talk just reminded me of how I attempted to do hazels hairstyle with my shitty undercut and. Never again. Never ever again
I have so much respect for people who can do hair and wigs because genuinely hair of any kind is my mortal enemy ahfksg I never style my own hair either
If I had the money to commission all my wigs I would
Oh no. 😦