📚wiki-editors

[placid basin]

There are some problems with this, mainly that most icons don't copy over so you get like random images instead

[buoyant ferry]

I know

[sterile hatch]

If you copy pages from the Fandom wiki, please honor the CC-by-SA license agreement by giving credit to the source. A link back to the original wiki in the edit summary is fine, or you can put a comment into the page source code like <!-- Originally copied from https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/PAGENAME --> so that the authors of the original page are still known and get credit for their work.

[kindred beacon]

hi! sorry i haven't gotten back to the game again so i don't know where to check for this. but does anyone know the actual recipe for sturdy computer?
there has been diff edits in the wiki, from 100 -> 70 and back again files say 70 but maybe there's a reason people are posting it as 100

i don't have the recipe file for .3 and .4, but i have .5 and .6 and it's been 70 ever since

edit: nevermind, also cleared up with gashunum

Okay I found it... wrong file. It's CraftingShopItemRequirement, not Recipe ;_;

double checked with a video made two months ago o: https://youtu.be/KEMQeXksBjo?si=J-U6aq0l8sQxwCYk&t=39

[sterile hatch]

How Fandom uses GenAI: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TimmyQuivy/Examining_How_Fandom_Used_Generative_AI_in_2023

[quaint torrent]

Hello here, is there a plan to create pages on the official wiki for all the crops, fishes etc. ?

[kindred beacon]

Yes, eventually It'll be a lot of work and cleanup, but the official wiki also still needs a few more things set up before we can slowly port stuff over. I messaged them late in the afternoon on Friday, so they may not be able to take care of it until this weekday.

Things missing: Variables extension, css location/access, fix to a lua error linking to fandom (?) dev wiki

[quaint torrent]

Great news !

[kindred beacon]

The devs are on break They won't be able to fix official wiki problems until they return in January

Will keep a list of things that need work on here:

• Variables extension
• Css location/access
• Shared file repository with wikimedia (?) This is health.png
• Fix file names

[vagrant bloom]

Is the eventual plan to move entirely to the official wiki?

[unkempt zodiac]

It sounds like there is! #📚wiki-editors message

[kindred beacon]

oh no the file names 😭

also some of them are webp and others are png, whyyy ;_;

[unkempt zodiac]

Oh no...

[jolly badge]

@kindred beacon is that on the fandom wiki or the official wiki? o.O

I'm sure I can get some jpegs of stuff if you need some help with the wiki >_>

[kindred beacon]

official wiki! these seems to be unused, but the ones that are used have weird file names like 458Erika relationship icon.png

I'm gonna try to clean it up while I wait for fixes on CI's end

I have files myself but I would appreciate help wherever! 😄

[nova flume]

Yeah, I don't get the numbers. I uploaded a few images while I was working on the Concerned Monkey shop on the official wiki a bit ago. The uploader tries to add the numbers on automatically? I had to remove them from the files names for everything I was putting up.

[kindred beacon]

I wonder if that's them trying to go around the shared repository

[vapid aurora]

i dont think these are shared repositories

just default files that come with a new instance of mediawiki

[kindred beacon]

do you still get move throttled, naut?

[vapid aurora]

they should be just deleteable and done

[kindred beacon]

I can't delete them 😦

[vapid aurora]

[kindred beacon]

there should be a link "delete all" where the "current" text is

and if i delete

i got a prompt about shared repo earlier but I can't make it show up again

[vapid aurora]

thats weird, bc shared repo doesnt show at all normally

like with the OL wikis of genshin

[kindred beacon]

Hm

[vapid aurora]

you just have to Know™ its there

[nova flume]

On the official wiki? Dunno, I haven't tried yet.

[kindred beacon]

not sure if a custom wiki has the same restrictions as fandom, but we can poke CI when they get back if you need moving perms

[vapid aurora]

ok i think i might have found the reason

and it is not something we can do anything about

it needs internal work

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos

needs modifying the php as it seems

(aka heres when we'd be calling reverie for help if it was fandom lmao)

[kindred beacon]

noooo thank you for figuring that out. would be easier for eriska and novita to relay

[kindred beacon]

i'm missing plugins and tools we have in fandom moving and deleting pages one by one is a pain

[quaint torrent]

Maybe we can look into the api a bit and automate it

[vapid aurora]

both fandom and the official wiki use mediawiki, so we should be able to just copypaste all the JS we normally use in fandom

[quaint torrent]

Yep but that's still à lot of copy and paste by hand

[vapid aurora]

welcome to porting stuff, its always a lot of copypasting

[quaint torrent]

Or writing a script

Anyways that's a proposal, I'll look how feasible that is once I'm done with work

[kindred beacon]

there seems to be some pywiki stuff i could use but i'm too pleb to understand

[kindred beacon]

i'll try

some stuff are missing so idk where the batch rename would go if the shortcut/tool thing isn't up

[quaint torrent]

Okay, I wrote a little bot to import pages, I tried on that page https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Carrot. It's a bit broken as most links are missing and most images have different names

I would have expected more template issues, but it seems mostly fine

import { Mwn } from "mwn";

// Params

const inputTarget = `https://coralisland.fandom.com/`;
const outputTarget = `https://coralisland.wiki/w/`;

const botUsername = "Granipouss@import"; // Create with https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Special:BotPasswords
const botPassword = "***"; // Add the actual password

const pagesToCopy = ["Carrot"];

/**
 * Main function
 */
async function run() {
  const bot = await Mwn.init({
    apiUrl: `${outputTarget}api.php`,
    username: botUsername,
    password: botPassword,
  });

  for (const name of pagesToCopy) {
    try {
      console.log(`\nTrying to import ${name}`);
      const source = await getPageSource(name);
      const response = await bot.create(name, source, undefined, {});
      console.log(response.result);
    } catch (error) {
      console.warn(error);
    }
  }
}

/**
 * @param {string} name
 * @returns {Promise<string>}
 */
async function getPageSource(name) {
  const url = `${inputTarget}rest.php/v1/page/${name}`;
  const response = await fetch(url);
  const data = await response.json();
  return data.source;
}

run();

I can run it on any list of pages you want, if that helps

[kindred beacon]

oh thank you! this could be useful after we fix some of the stuff

but what we discussed before was batch page move (rename) and deleting of current pages!

there are plugins in fandom that allows me to do all of them in one go. the custom wiki has no easy way to move or delete pages earlier, i had to type Special:MovePage/ or ?action=delete in the URL on by one

I was able to find a faster workflow, with the use of AutoWikiBrowser, but it's still one by one ;_;

this is what we use in fandom: https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MassRename, https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/AjaxBatchDelete

@vapid aurora sorry i'm so lost, i don't know where to update could i ask you to please update Module:Gifted item to use the file format File:<character> icon.png?

Thank youuuu

OH FOUND IT

oh... i don't know where to adjust the suffix it's for {{NPC}} too

[quaint torrent]

I think I fixed the Gifted item module, well at least, I made it so it takes suffix into account

td:node(Icon_list(list, settings)) we have to make sure it uses settings

Not great but better

[kindred beacon]

Ohhh they made some changes to the module i didn't notice.

Thank you!! i also uploaded the missing icons

hm there's a space in between so it's correctly interpreting to make two columns, but it's not showing up as a list...?

[quaint torrent]

It seems thats there is a <ul> but it's empty and the icons are just added under it

[kindred beacon]

that's how it is in the fandom site too

oh need a display:block somewhere, but need to test this css change before committing it

[quaint torrent]

Template:NPC should be good too

it's not easy testing and trying stuff

[quaint torrent]

Indeed that seems to be CSS only even on fandom

I'll look into it later

[kindred beacon]

are you also having a bug where your caret's far from where the text is showing up as you type?

it only happens in the module/css editors

[quaint torrent]

I have not had the pleasure to use the css editor yet

[kindred beacon]

oh but i also experience it in module editor

[quaint torrent]

Oh I have that in the Module, the cursor was way out

[kindred beacon]

oh noo ;_;

[quaint torrent]

So I edited elsewhere and copy paste once I was done

[kindred beacon]

same 😭

[vapid aurora]

That's due to editor font not being monospaced

Need to change it to Consolas

[quaint torrent]

Well that's a bit sad XD

[kindred beacon]

OHHH that's why i've been trying to change ace editor to consolas but it's not working so far s;ofghsdf

[vapid aurora]

you have to do a cascading rule

bc there exists a stupid universal rule for font

.wikiEditor-ui .ace_editor * {
    font-size: 13px;
    font-family: monospace, monospace;
}

[kindred beacon]

thank youuuuuu

it's finally workinggg

[kindred beacon]

does anyone know the correct @import url for the css? i tried and stole a lot of things from other wikis already, nothing's working

[quaint torrent]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@import
Honestly any direct urlshould work

Maybe if the css is external you have errors

[kindred beacon]

still not working ;_;

[quaint torrent]

Is there an error of some kind or even q warning or just nothing shows

[kindred beacon]

@vapid aurora sorry ;_; would you know why #replace isn't working here? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Template:Infobox_character/doc

[vapid aurora]

i dont think the wiki has parser functions enabled

its an extension

fandom has it by default

[kindred beacon]

it's up in https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Special:Version

but i'll poke the eris to double check! ;_;

[vapid aurora]

god these tables are hurting my eyes

what even is this

[kindred beacon]

i'm overwhelmed with the css fixes needed sofuhsdff

[kindred beacon]

nothing D:

[vapid aurora]

then the setting for the string functions might be disabled

[kindred beacon]

OOHHHH okay i'll send that over ;_;

THANK YOU

you da best

[quaint torrent]

Some CSS is missing for icons and I cannot édit it, so I made it so only the desktop icons are shown for now

Also the quality stars should work

Those health and energy icons are just great

[vapid aurora]

nothing we can do until the mediawiki commons situation is solved

[quaint torrent]

Yep

[grim wagon]

On the official wiki page for the fruit trees there are these tables, one row for each tree -- I've started taking images for the growth stages of each tree, should those be on a separate page (like on the fandom wiki) or should I compile them for a single gallery image per tree or something like that?

OR I could edit this table to put them in here, one row per tree, but that seems like it'd get HUGE fast given it's 7 x 8? images

I'll upload them now in any case so they're available

[quaint torrent]

I like have a table with all fruits and a page for each

The stages should probably go on the specific tree page with all the details

I renamed heath, energy and the quality stars to remove weird numbers

Still can't edit the css but at least now it looks okay

[unkempt zodiac]

Spam

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[jaunty cypress]

Thank you!

[sterile hatch]

Performance has improved a bit: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Grunny/A_Look_Back_at_Our_Work_on_Performance_in_2023

[kindred beacon]

I can't get :root to work so the styling in https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Template:Infobox_character isn't showing up properly. does anyone know how to fix?

css

[quaint torrent]

Hello, your CSS is valid but it seems that some "prefix" is being added

I get this on the page https://coralisland.wiki/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.PortableInfobox.styles|ext.uls.pt|ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.noscript|mediawiki.page.gallery.styles|skins.vector.styles.legacy&only=styles&skin=vector

And as you can see, it starts with some js, and that make it so :rootcannot be parsed properly I think

[kindred beacon]

oh noooo

i'll poke devs for this too then. thank you so much for looking into it!

[quaint torrent]

As a quick fix, maybe you can a empy rule at the beginning and hope it's the one that is being ignored.

🤷‍♂️

[kindred beacon]

how can i add an empty rule?

[quaint torrent]

just adding .class { }

A css class that does nothing

[kindred beacon]

crosses fingers

HALFWAY THERE

Thank youuuu!

yayyy

[quaint torrent]

That's clearly dirty, but well, waiting for the devs, that's something you can do I guess

[kindred beacon]

granipousssss that fixed the import too!!!

thank you!!!

doc finally showing, i can organize css now!

[quaint torrent]

I guess the "prefix" was the single source of all our bugs x)

Glad I could help

[dull igloo]

Hi, I tried correcting something on the wiki. https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Mark#Heart_events indicates that the 8-star event is unknown, and it says it's being generated by https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Mark/Events but one page has the info and the other doesn't. IDK how to edit Mark's 8-heart summary as "Mark rented kayaks and wants you to join"

[vapid aurora]

its not the 8-heart one that shows as TBD

its the first 10-heart one

8-heart is filled in

the 10-heart one just has no summary given

[kindred beacon]

something's collapsing h2 sections on mobile, and only h2

so it still shows subsections and it's pain This is Eva's

I don't know if it's desired behavior to have collapsed content in mobile by default, but if it is, it has to hide the whole section, not stop when it has h3/4/5

[kindred beacon]

so update on this lmao

• Requested for these extensions to be installed:
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions (need to enable certain stuff)
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Editcount
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DeleteBatch
  -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue (I can't get {{Schedule}} to work otherwise I can css it all but the labels don't become clickable at all)
• Fix to root in css, if they don't want the workaround

---

we got css location/access now at least

[quaint torrent]

Well it seems that's the way it was coded https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CollapsibleSections/blob/master/modules/CollapsibleSections.Section.js#L39C41-L39C47

The config can be changed for it to collapse h3 etc. if you think its better

( https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CollapsibleSections/blob/master/modules/CollapsibleSections.Section.js#L39C41-L39C47 )

... And I'm back with my hacky hacks

You can probably solve it by wrapping whatever you want to be collapsible in a div

== Title ==
<div>
=== Subtitle ===
...
</div>

[kindred beacon]

oh naur. i can see why that's the desired behavior for mobile but i'd like to see if we can get more feedback on whether this is how we want the wiki to work. but thank you for the work around!! ;_; it seems like this would be an easier fix on their end.

[kindred beacon]

Hi @quaint torrent! May I ask for help with the css for this one? ;_; I can't get it to work. This is the desired output, but something's forcing it to not have the margin. https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Caravan

The list in my user page should also have subbullets and stuff but it won't show up https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/User:Salty_Nori

[kindred beacon]

@vapid aurora Miiiiike may I ask for help with the shop template? Can we please add the item name in price column here? (or maybe option to add, since most of the time it's coral coins)

@fast forum also brought up stuff but i'm not too familiar. i think some shops sell with two diff currencies, so pages use shop templates twice? and one of them doesn't get shown for shop availability o:

Hi @sterile hatch! May I please request for https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/User:Gashunum_bot to be flagged as a bot please? Thank you!

[fast forum]

I think I can edit this once I'm back

[fast forum]

When using multiple {{shop}} with different currencies in one page, only one {{shop}} detected by {{shop usage}}.

And merit points currenly not shown in {{shop availability}} as currency

[fast forum]

This is done

I've duplicated {{shop}} and {{shop availability}} into {{chest}} and {{chest availability}}. The {{chest availability}} works for 1 amount of item e.g. {{chest availability|Pink diamond}}, but not for those having amount more than 1, e.g. trash (Trash*10), I might need help on this... of course there's a work around to just split the {{chest}} to 3 columns instead of 2..

[quaint torrent]

It seems that we are loading some CSS that includes !important preventing us from overload it

I don't know where it comes from

https://coralisland.wiki/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.PortableInfobox.styles|ext.uls.pt|ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.noscript|jquery.makeCollapsible.styles|jquery.tablesorter.styles|skins.vector.styles.legacy&only=styles&skin=vector

That's probably from an extension

[kindred beacon]

Thank you!!!

[kindred beacon]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 thank you! i'll poke devs for this

[fast forum]

You're welcome

[quaint torrent]

You can force it by adding !important of your own, but well, that a very bad practice x)

[sterile hatch]

Done!

[kindred beacon]

thank you!!!

[kindred beacon]

@fast forum Not an acceptable reason to consolidate for the sake of standardizing. We have preloads, database dumps, and bots to take care of that.

it's not the end of the world if we're missing one template from the page, or if they're not in the correct order.

we don't know how this game will change or grow. there may come a time where we may not need a dpl'd section in that part of the page, or certain pages will call for unique sections that wouldn't make sense at the end of uses section. it will require more cleanup to untemplate, as I can imagine we have to do now with your changes. so it's not ok for this to be acceptable just because it's still 1.0.

Context: Common foraging usage and sample page

[kindred beacon]

(sorry i had to afk so this wasn't sent earlier, but)
moving forward, i encourage and recommend you to message here when big changes are implemented, for feedback or heads up. any concerns or help are best discussed here too. thank you!

[kindred beacon]

the game is kinda inconsistent with the hours they display in the menu/ui, but the default time in-game is a 12 hour cycle right, instead of 24?

[kindred beacon]

i personally find it more confusing/not easily readable to have regular sched vs exceptions, so experimenting sched by season (like how it's already set up in the official wiki) would appreciate feedback or at least lmk which one's more preferred!
https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/User:Salty_Nori/Sandbox

otherwise i'll just choose whichever and wait until someone complains

[vapid aurora]

Tangent

huh

[kindred beacon]

haha yeah they enabled the variables extension and it died

[vapid aurora]

Also sure, having sched for each season is fine

It's a bit iffy bc you'll still have exceptions outside the seasons themselves but eh

[kindred beacon]

do you prefer the tabs or naw?

[vapid aurora]

Hmmm

Not really

Do tabs even work properly in official wiki

[kindred beacon]

the new tabs work similar i think with the one you made!

where it doesn't explode on mobile

it's still a tab

[vapid aurora]

Wait wat

Wdym explode

Wait, were the collapsed tables supposed to be tabs????

OK nvm I confused myself

[kindred beacon]

the tabs no longer exist on mobile and they're all just laid out on the article

with fandom's default

[vapid aurora]

Remove the default collapse on the schedule tables and I'd be fine

There is 0 point not putting stuff in tabs if you're just gonna have it collapsed anyway

[kindred beacon]

okay, thank you!

[vapid aurora]

And sidenote on the collapsible sections on mobile

Either the default collapse is removed or the functionality should be removed entirely

It is absolutely horrendous UX

[kindred beacon]

these are the h2's right? i kinda get the intention. wikipedia has that ux. but also it's still weird so i still prefer it off

will poke devs!

[vagrant bloom]

Is there a reason why the navbox templates aren't being used?

[kindred beacon]

no reason but the official wiki doesn't really have a lot of stuff fleshed out

also please do not put links in headings

[vagrant bloom]

Sure, but can I ask why?

[vapid aurora]

It's bad UX

[vagrant bloom]

I grew up with an Apple II, so my tolerance for UX is a bit higher than most. And I'm crap at design as well.

But I'm happy to take your word for that.

I would like to recommend that someone should fix the name of the character infobox macro. "Test" seems like a sub-optimal name.

[kindred beacon]

@fast forum please create a /Draft and test the changes before committing changes to the main template. I notice you have a lot of edits with undos in Infobox item.

is this intentional? Why does it need the full width of the infobox?

also there's this method https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_crops/Draft instead of this

[kindred beacon]

@fast forum the journal page looks like this on mobile

will the # of columns adjust for mobile? because an 8 column table will be difficult

what if instead of this format, it's just a list, like other tables, sorted with the id? it doesn't need to be a gallery like how it's shown in-game because it won't work on fandom

genshin has a similar page that's sorting items based on id https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Memories_of_the_Heart oh nvm not this one

[kindred beacon]

please resolve the problems with journal before using them in main namespace. i will remove the sections otherwise. and as always, please use these channels to communicate with other editors. thank you!

[slim spoke]

Hi there! I just joined the new wiki and I wonder what content is the main priority at the moment? I am not that far in the game, so I cannot do everything, though.

[kindred beacon]

Hello! Welcome!! Hard to say what the main one is, the official wiki needs a lot of improvements in many pages I suggest to work on any page that interests you! We appreciate any help we can get. Right now for me, I'm working on locations, then I'll be moving on to the new format for character pages!

Ultimately, the goal is to have a page for every item in the game so we only need to update one page for all pages that uses the info to be updated too. o:

If you'd like, you can tell me which kind of pages you want to work on and I'll try my best to help! (format, template, etc.) There is no such thing as "dibs" too if you're interested in someone else's current project

[vagrant bloom]

I'm assuming that the official wiki shouldn't be linking to the Fandom wiki but to itself.

[vagrant bloom]

What would need to be done to fix this navbox? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Template:Navbox_characters

I'm not familiar with the syntax.

[kindred beacon]

Oh that's because none of the characters we have use the infobox character template Which you also pointed out previously, they're all currently using the Test template.

I don't think we can change the uses to Test too because that template doesn't create any category.

If you want, you can go ahead and update the character pages to use {{Infobox character}}. A sample of it is in my sandbox

[kindred beacon]

apranum... i'm not sure why you're adding an empty journalid param then add the value in a different edit a few minutes later.

this is unnecessarily cluttering the page's history. if there's a need to do this manually anyway there's no need to separate the edits or bot the addition of empty params that are unusable until the manual work. it's fine if the empty params were included upon creation of the page, but not like this.
@fast forum

to add, i still disagree with 8 column tables for a gallery view of the journal. the ux is crap on mobile.

edit - i'm more than welcome to have people disagree with me if others think the horizontal scrolling is helpful, but while this isn't cleared up or a compromise isn't reached, an edit shouldn't have been made.

you committed the edits without addressing any concerns or questions here.

[kindred beacon]

58% of our visitors use mobile

[fast forum]

because it's a 2 step edit

[kindred beacon]

how is it a 2-step edit?

[fast forum]

the alternative is to show without the item text

[fast forum]

1 add the journalid, 2 add the value

[kindred beacon]

you can do both at the same time

did you turn on auto save?

you have to manually save each one for both edits to push through

[fast forum]

I auto for both

[kindred beacon]

do they all have the same values, that you can auto? or you're using a diff method?

[fast forum]

I can do auto for diff values

[kindred beacon]

may i ask how?

apranum sent in dms that they're using a module, is there no way to add the param name before all of this?

[fast forum]

you can, need to edit the module to be more intensive

the module can do everything, just need to know how to code

multiple edit is saver

[kindred beacon]

then moving forward, you can merge them then? that's good!

[kindred beacon]

if you bring up these problems here we can help each other out in solving this, or if this is even an endeavor we want to add to the wiki

i know it was a new editor who added the journal order, but i wonder if that's a necessary addition or if there's a better way to present that information without having to duplicate the same information just for the emulation of the UI

[fast forum]

people asking for "what's missing in this slot", so it's a good feature to have, icon-only will serve the purpose but, without the text, it become not really searchable

[kindred beacon]

i agree, i won't want us to remove the text too

[fast forum]

what happen was the template used was misclassified. and apparently this affect mobile. I never purposely classify the template, but it was apparently auto assigned. reclassify the template solved the issue

[fast forum]

just wondering how we're going to classify season for multi-season crops? I mean which section will expand, is it both section, e.g. for hot pepper is summer and fall?

[fast forum]

This is what it looks like for more info

[kindred beacon]

good point. simpler way is to just show it for all the season it shows up. but we can also subgroup them if info of which ones are multiseasonal or not is desired in navbox

[kindred beacon]

the fandom template type shenanigan

[kindred beacon]

are those sample values? what happens if you click NPC?

[fast forum]

it will scroll down to who are the npcs give the item

And this is changed display for fish, not too sure whether weather can follow

time surely can because there's only 4 timezone for fish

all the info is accurate pre today's patch for fish & insect. I haven't tally up for critters

[kindred beacon]

Hi @vapid aurora! Would you know why it's adding a <p> for mobile? https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Point

[fast forum]

It's the {{icon}} I think

[kindred beacon]

then the vanilla use of icon should have the p then right? maybe something's getting interpreted as a new line in the point template

[kindred beacon]

oh yikes

where is that?

[fast forum]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Shed

[kindred beacon]

oh that's for the icon-list css stuff mike did because if i remove content: "\A"; here it's fixed

it doesn't have the p

[fast forum]

so how do you want the seeds to be created?

which infobox? item?

[kindred beacon]

is this in regards to my to-do?

yes, item

[fast forum]

we discuss about this last time

[kindred beacon]

is this for all plant page or the classification between fruit plant, fruit tree, and crop?

[fast forum]

no? that's another discussion

[kindred beacon]

also sorry i have to hop out for a while. will check what's happening with the icon templates when i get back

[kindred beacon]

oh. but those were our only two discussions when you brought up that we could proceed with the seed plan? if you could refresh me that would be appreciated

[fast forum]

last time you say seeds can't still be auto created due to many variables

but it can be done now

[kindred beacon]

ah so it was about the discussion of creating pages with diff variables, not seed in particular? because i can't find seed in our convo where i said it

i do have the to-do to create pages for each seed though, so i thought that's what you mean. yes, they're infobox item.

will leave this here so i can remember later --- need to find the thing you can add to the url to remove site css

[fast forum]

Plant in Spring. Grows in 5 days and produces every 0 days. --> in-game description for sugarcane, omg -_-

[fast forum]

Seeds(&seedling&sapling) done, I've turned off some categorisation in infobox item for now, need to re-assess the category again, which one is seed which one is produce

Is there any better way to sub-template the infobox, some are repeating here and there

[vapid aurora]

Do not subtemplate the Infobox

[fast forum]

Hmm how to do a sublist without a subgroup?. e.g. the equivalent of summer is outfit, but outfit doesn't have further subgroup

[fast forum]

For the location, we still need to standardize the naming as last time highlighted that the name in wiki and in-game are different

Also apply to festival

And I tried to do this for the map since it's kinda underutilized, but is there any way to like embed it better?

Im off discord

[fast forum]

Oh yeah, I just remember, sharing my finding these few days

The parser module is a bit sensitive, it can't detect the parameters inside the infobox if the }} is not in different line or something

[vapid aurora]

thats not a thing

[fast forum]

And using the template naming should be without _ e.g. Infobox_bug and Infobox bug may be referring to the same template but the parser is hardcoded to use 1

[fast forum]

Some items affected

I cleaned up those

[vapid aurora]

yes, underscores should not be used when linking pages or invoking templates

regardless of parser module

the lack of acceptance of underscore as space is intentional

[fast forum]

Yup I've cleaned up those that I found to be without _

For the case I've mentioned, 1 sample I can remember is the floating critter scent

This unlock (in crafting page) used to be empty

The fix is to add line {{stub}}{{Infobox equipment --> {{stub}}
{{Infobox equipment

I fixed other with }} inline, but I couldn't remember which

[vapid aurora]

that should be done regardless

top-page templates always occupy a line each

notices, hatnotes, infoboxes and so on

e.g., from genshin wiki

[vagrant bloom]

The documentation for the character infobox was wrong in several ways and has been corrected.

[kindred beacon]

thanks, ace!!!

i forgot that yesterday was a friday so i'm not sure how much i'll be able to work on over the weekend, but figured out that a css is affecting the icons in fandom wiki

[kindred beacon]

the game is super inconsistent with the names, popups, etc for the shops (among other things), but I will be moving location pages based on their name on the map instead. that's the UI people would usually refer too, but i'd keep redirects or "also called" in intro if it applies ;_; we just need to stick and choose the standard for page names in this chaos. that does mean we'll have to live with the abominations Clinics and Fishensips (Tavern)

[frank crane]

I couldn't find Kimchi in cooking. Is it still missing? Or did i oversee it?

[kindred beacon]

Kimchi is an artisan product, not found in cooking

[kindred beacon]

@vapid aurora how about the other tables in the tab? the sea of tables was overwhelming and at least this way it's already filtered to the season so when you search "Sunday" it doesn't show a result of 4 diff ones and you have to scroll back up to see what season it's in

[vapid aurora]

so basically the same as we have now?

[kindred beacon]

yes but per season vs regular and differences

[vapid aurora]

hmm

thats not too hard?

[kindred beacon]

i think firefox made an update that cut off bottom borders

not too hard in what context?

[vapid aurora]

implementing in terms of module

[vapid aurora]

no lmao

thats just the table going off the alloted page space

if you add bottom padding it'll show

[kindred beacon]

oh i don't want to trouble you! we can live with my table abomination

i just wanted feedback!

[vapid aurora]

wouldnt be much trouble

it could just adapt the current shedule template format

with some minor changes

[kindred beacon]

this is on the official wiki though, they have diff tabbers

[vapid aurora]

is it the html tag tabber?

[kindred beacon]

yes!

[vapid aurora]

does it work on mobile?

[kindred beacon]

as in you can scroll horizontally, yes!

[vapid aurora]

no i mean as in if there are actual tabbers

bc some tabbers in mobile just drop the tabs entirely and plop stuff in a line

[vapid aurora]

ok so it works

then there's no issue

the module tabber is based off the actual tabbers

[kindred beacon]

i forgot to poke devs about the collapsing h2s ;_;

ooooh

[vapid aurora]

technically the tabs from infobox

but its the same thing iirc

[kindred beacon]

if i copied the module tabbers you made, should it work in official wiki?

because the buttons didn't seem to work

[vapid aurora]

it should

if not then tell me and i'll give a look as to why it could be

[kindred beacon]

ah f i can't replicate what happened last time this is showing up instead for {{Schedule/Draft}}

even with char param

[kindred beacon]

AH i remembered to check genshin https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/User:Salty_Nori/Sandbox_2

it just laid it all out and the buttons are not clickable

ofc potatoes

[vapid aurora]

do you have this somewhere

[kindred beacon]

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/User:Salty_Nori/Sandbox

only summer and spring updated now though the others are fillers

[vapid aurora]

right

its bc this is not usual tabber

it uses diff classes and all that

[kindred beacon]

ah

[vapid aurora]

i can just adapt the tabber module to this tabber mode

not much of an issue

[kindred beacon]

thank youuuuuuu

it'd save future editors from seeing my messy tables

[vapid aurora]

god this tabber is so different

it has a bunch of useless sections

and uses a bunch of extra tags

[kindred beacon]

oh no and i thought that was an improvement

[vapid aurora]

for no reason

[vapid aurora]

like compare this, which is just the tab row

to this, which is everything

the fandom one is way cleaner and simple

i have 0 idea what the one on official wiki is from but it looks so bad

[kindred beacon]

maybe that's why fandom isn't updating 😭

the tabber fandom uses is archived ;_;

[vapid aurora]

jesus christ

this tabber is way worse than i thought

the small bar below the tabs

its an entirely separate element

instead of just being css

like

what

😭

who thought this was a good idea

[kindred beacon]

oh my god 😭

[vapid aurora]

is there really no way to get the fandom tabber lmao

bc this is giving me a headache

[kindred beacon]

let me see 😭

[vapid aurora]

i can make it work

but this is just besides the point of me being able

its so bad

like just from a developer standpoint lmao

instead of just removing a class here and adding it there like fandom does

its doing a gazillion calculations each time you click a new tab

[kindred beacon]

that sounds awful wth 😭

https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?oldid=5009524 this is the state of the page before archive

i can still download the rar

[vapid aurora]

the yellow stuff is what changes

when you click a new tab it calculates what the width of the blue bottom bar should be, how far should it be padded to the left to show below the tab, how high is the content being rendered by that tab

its so extra 😭

fandom just moves the wds-is-current class around

[kindred beacon]

i'll poke devs if they can implement the archived tabber and if it still works for our version ;_;

the new tabber is csspain

sorry for the trouble mike!!!

[vapid aurora]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i might be able to play around with this godforsaken format

and add some of our custom css

to make it less painful

lemme see

[kindred beacon]

👀 i see you also updated some stuff in genshin

[vapid aurora]

thats bc of a bug that was noticed in hsr server lmao

[vagrant bloom]

I think there's something off in the specifications for the Character navbox.

In this line, for example, how does the "Dateable characters" specification become satisfied?

|list1 = {{Navbox DPL|Dateable characters|suffix={space}icon|uses=Template:Infobox character|format=icon}}

[vapid aurora]

its a category that is given in the fandom wiki

not sure if or how it was ported to the official wiki

[kindred beacon]

oh i removed that part from type, added it for official wiki!

[vagrant bloom]

I've decided to only work on the official wiki.

On the official wiki, there is no "type" field in the infobox. Dateable is a field, and race is a field.

We could add "type" back, without displaying it, for the purposes of satisfying the infobox query.

[kindred beacon]

it should already satisfy, please purge the page

[vagrant bloom]

Ahh, I see something now.

[kindred beacon]

i believe the type param wouldn't be able to account for merfolk dateables (or at least the categorization would be messy), so i thought it was simpler to separate. although maybe "type" is better for species i'm always iffy with that use

[vagrant bloom]

I agree, separating them is probably a better design, in the end.

[kindred beacon]

i also didn't use bachelor/bachelorette because i don't know what they use for the non-binary chars

[vagrant bloom]

Do we have any of the last names (other than the Sanchez brothers)?

[kindred beacon]

simpler to say dateable? yes

hmm let me see

[vagrant bloom]

And that is absolutely the best approach, yes.

[kindred beacon]

it doesn't seem like we have other chars with last name revealed

OH but i remember an NPC giving a diff name but then says to call them something else

Eva! Her real name's Everest

not last name but a name diff from display name

[vagrant bloom]

Ok, then.

It seems like "Dateable characters" and "Marriage candidates" are the same thing, but they are two separate categories.

[kindred beacon]

yes i let marriage candidates live for now while i'm double checking which one to go for coral island is super inconsistent with terminology

[vagrant bloom]

I prefer soup.

[kindred beacon]

iirc this is the only reference to marriage availability in-game? then outside of the game i think they use "dateable" more often, but they've used "romanceable" and "marriage candidate" too

[vagrant bloom]

But inconsistent terminology is something I've learned to live with.

[kindred beacon]

before the "public" knew about the official wiki, they created the page with "marriage candidate" as the name ;_;

[kindred beacon]

but also even with this, it just sorts the chars, and regular townies and even kids are shown

[vapid aurora]

WAIT

I THINK I FOUND A SOLUTION

pls let this work 😭

[kindred beacon]

praying to dev gods

[vapid aurora]

IT WORKS

lesgo

[kindred beacon]

OMG MIKE

it's like this on my end

did you make use of infobox tabbers?

[vapid aurora]

yep lmao

im figuring out the css now

[kindred beacon]

lmaooo clever!!

[vapid aurora]

its basically the same one as in fandom

different class names and a bit different system

but almost tit-for-tat

anything is better than using those god awful tabber

i refuse to use such a garbage system lmao

nori

made https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Tabbers.css

can you add it to whatever page is needed for mobile/desktop css pls

final look is this

removed the background of current tab bc contrast

[kindred beacon]

i don't think there's such a thing 😭

[vapid aurora]

how we using Cards.css and so on?

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Cards.css

is this unused?

[kindred beacon]

only on my profile https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/User:Salty_Nori so far

and it seems to work okay??

[vapid aurora]

no, i mean the css page itself

are we not importing it anywhere

to be used

does it just work by existing

[kindred beacon]

OH

added in common!

[vapid aurora]

lmao

thanks

now tabber should be in action

[kindred beacon]

i still can't click on the labels ;_;

wth let me see if i have anything interfering

[vapid aurora]

wait

dont tell me its one of these cases

where its only triggered if another instance exists in the page

like, you can only make a fake usage if a native usage already exists in the page

fandom does it too for some gallery css iirc

[kindred beacon]

how does this work for you then? aren't we looking at the same page

[vapid aurora]

i was testing in the other sandbox

[kindred beacon]

ohhhh

oh no ;_;

[vapid aurora]

yep it is that

which

honestly

has a really easy solution

just have a dummy call of infobox in the template itself

it only renders a right-floating empty element

so

shrug

[kindred beacon]

IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

icb that was a thing lmaoooo

THANKS MIKE

much cuter tabs too

[vapid aurora]

now the test of fire

is mobile

bc on fandom at least

infoboxes go to the top of the page

will this get affected

or will it get ignored

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Coral_Island_Wiki:Sandbox

ok it seems mobile ignores it

as for pc

also ignored

poggers

no issues with the dummy infobox solution

tabbers are fully functional then lmao

i've always wanted to do this

[kindred beacon]

LMAO if only we can do it in genshin (altho people would probably agree sdifygjsdhsdf)

[vapid aurora]

actually

it renders nothing

[kindred beacon]

when you had the sandbox earlier with both tabber and infobox, the tabber at the bottom didn't show

[vapid aurora]

what i thought was a render was the empty ToC wrapper

so there's physically no issue with using a dummy infobox

it renders absolutely nothing but loads the styling

and js

[vapid aurora]

It did on my end

[kindred beacon]

i can't scroll down any further

i have no idea how to inspect on mobile

[vapid aurora]

you cant

[kindred beacon]

oh rip

[vapid aurora]

at least not from actual mobile

you can from pc

[kindred beacon]

i set it as iphone but it's showing the tabs or do you mean somewhere else?

i'll check from ipad

[vapid aurora]

not sure what you're asking for sorry lmao

[kindred beacon]

oh i thought you were implying i can emulate a mobile on pc

[vapid aurora]

you can

but not perfectly

some stuff will still differ even if you set to the exact same device

[kindred beacon]

i still can't see it on my phone 😭

[vapid aurora]

can you see the one in https://coralisland.wiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Tabber?

[kindred beacon]

i can

[vapid aurora]

then idk what to tell ya lmao

as long as it works

[kindred beacon]

maybe it'd be better if applied in actual pages THANKS MIKE!!! ❤️

[vapid aurora]

np

now never use the tabber tags ever again

would be tempted to even request the extension to be removed

since the tabs i used come from the portableinfobox extension instead

[kindred beacon]

technically i should just be able to use the schedule template from fandom wiki and it would work right?

[vapid aurora]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yes and no

bc that one has tabs

but not in the format you want

but yes, the template would output the same as in fandom

[kindred beacon]

am i doing something wrong?

[vapid aurora]

bc the module is set to only accept from {{Schedule}}

i see why

the official wiki doesnt use our modified version of Module:Arguments

should work now

[kindred beacon]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY

you da best mike!!

works on mobile too mwahahahaha

[vapid aurora]

do you want me to modify schedule to get this format

[kindred beacon]

yes please!

[vapid aurora]

the syntax will be a bit awkward, but eh

god the official wiki not having darkmode is hurting my eyes

[kindred beacon]

on the css side it's a breath of fresh air

don't have to check for both sirlfgsfd

but the season on top isn't needed though i don't think

[vapid aurora]

i wasnt planning to include that part lmao

[kindred beacon]

HAHA

anywho sorry, i need to head to bed it's getting super late ;_; thanks so much for your help again!!

[vapid aurora]

gn

[vapid aurora]

@kindred beacon for when you wake up

[kindred beacon]

AAAAAAAAAAA THANKS MIKE

it's beautiful

[kindred beacon]

hi @vagrant bloom! i updated the param name to "type" instead of "species" because i'm iffy with that use, especially when it's not used anywhere. thank you for your hard work!

aaah darnit i forgot about "strangers"

where is that term from @_@

[kindred beacon]

magic word not working

[vagrant bloom]

I was wondering that. Made no sense to me, but then I’ve only been able to start playing very recently. My daughter gave me her old Steamdeck for Christmas. I’m still waiting for the Switch release.

[kindred beacon]

i couldn't find anything about it in the code or twitter too i wonder if it's another one of those terminology used by similar games getting adopted here

[vapid aurora]

I think its what map shows as when you haven't met the person

[kindred beacon]

oh

for this one, it's used for any char you can't build relationship with. my girl raina isn't on the map iirc

[vapid aurora]

Then that's wrong lmao

[kindred beacon]

[vapid aurora]

We could just make up a term tbh

Resident-ppl who just exist in the island
Townie-residents with relationship options
Dateables-residents with marriage prospects

[kindred beacon]

i think we receive visitors from outside the island like bobby and jeff smith

[vapid aurora]

Then those can be visitors

Visitors are temporary residents

Bam, done

[buoyant ferry]

Have ppl documented the mayoral campaign events yet?

I believe it happens around 10-14 offerings done

[vagrant bloom]

So, are we going to modify the Character navbox to use those categories: Dateables, townies, residents, and visitors? And what about the giants. The merfolk will probably need categories too since there are dateable, non-dateable, and non-interactable merfolk.

[stable terrace]

Idk if this is the right channel for the official wiki, but Sam is listed as having juice as a favourite gift. I gave him rambutan juice and it appears it's actually natural for him so perhaps this can be updated

[kindred beacon]

oh god. it seems easier to just have different params for each then?

type = human, merfolk, giant, other (for the animals?)
dateable = yes/no
friendship = yes/no

so to find a visitor, human + no friendship category?
a merfolk dateable, merfolk + dateable category

do we need to have a category for where they live? lives in starlet town, ocean, etc, although i don't know where to use that info other than categorizing for the sake of it

[kindred beacon]

oh no ;_; i'll remove this from his page

[kindred beacon]

<@&909661844698972160>

[viscid swift]

Thank you!

[vagrant bloom]

Because the game has the very convenient character locator, I’m not sure it matters where they live?

[kindred beacon]

i see where you're coming from, but the wiki is separate from the game we document the game, and the live in category may be useful when we're listing chars like which npcs live outside coral island, which may not be covered by the current params/cats

[pulsar elk]

Juice is actually a removed item, now all juices are like strawbery juice, potato juice etc.

[vagrant bloom]

Potato juice sounds disgusting.

[vapid aurora]

they didnt mean "juice" as an item by that name, just juice as a group of items

[pulsar elk]

There is still old red coloured fruit juice in the likes, but it is not obtainable. Currently all of fruit juice are yellow.

[vapid aurora]

?

no?

there is no such juice in the page

i have no idea what you're refering to lmao

[pulsar elk]

Red fruit juice is still in the files. Guess it got translated into fruit juice category in the wiki.

[vapid aurora]

no, we just dont record those items, nor do we just copypaste everything that's in the files willy-nilly since there's removed, upcoming or unused content

and that "guide" site has nothing to do with us so please check if stuff is in either the official or fandom wiki before bringing it up since stuff being there does not affect or matter to us in any way

[pulsar elk]

I just used it for juice picture to show difference

[vapid aurora]

my point is that why was this item, that we do not record nor mention anywhere in neither of the wikis, necessary to be brought up as something to consider

[kindred beacon]

you're both correct in some way for this instance, i think the devs or whoever added this referred to the files, and didn't realize it was the removed item. but they listed it like it wasn't the removed item, so it looked like the artisan product, not the removed cooked dish.

i'm not sure whether pages that list fruit juice is correct, but it's ok to add or remove as we come across discrepancies. i hope to soon add more pages so we can utilize the correct gift template 😭

also for fandom wiki, please don't hide content of removed items the removed notice should already hide it from DPL

[vagrant bloom]

@kindred beacon Added the proper infobox to Anne, but she's not showing up on the navbox. Some things appear to be done behind the scenes, and it isn't clear how someone gets marked as a "townie".

[kindred beacon]

Oh I didn't adjust the infobox and navbox yet.

[kindred beacon]

please use type instead of species, and if a residence is not known or you don't know where they live, we can leave it unfilled or add a {{Stub|<reason>}} at the top of the page to invite someone else to fill it up. Thank you!!

[kindred beacon]

why are all the collapse buttons suddenly not working? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Alice

was looking into Gift prefs template but I couldn't click universal likes @_@ https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Template:Gift_prefs

[kindred beacon]

all good now, an extension affected it ;_;

[kindred beacon]

@vapid aurora may i poke you for a minified version of card? i'd edit myself but it's in a module and i'm
the default card is a little big for navbox. maybe 40px?
https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Template:Navbox_crops

[vapid aurora]

done

(fixed an issue with caption locking the size)

[kindred beacon]

THANKS MIKE

[kindred beacon]

sorry, mike ;_; is it also possible to use the item's title param to make use of ­ like in genshin?

[kindred beacon]

Hi @vagrant bloom! Where did you find the residence name "Wildlife Enthusiasts"?

[kindred beacon]

nvm found where it's from

[vagrant bloom]

I don't generally have my steamdeck with me in my office, which is where all of my computers are.

<@&909661844698972160>

[kindred beacon]

Hi @vagrant bloom! Sorry, I didn't think a ping was a necessary because you seem to check/backread, that's my bad, but please don't use ? for resident name. It's better to leave it empty if you don't know. Thank you!

[vagrant bloom]

@kindred beacon Sure thing.

[kindred beacon]

Hi @vagrant bloom, aren't merfolk unfriendable and undateable in 1.0?

[vagrant bloom]

@kindred beacon Could be? I haven't actually paid much attention to that, yet.

[kindred beacon]

Please be more mindful moving forward. Apparently, they're all not friendable yet. We can add information in the intro that they will be in the future, but the infobox should show current info. Thanks!

[kindred beacon]

does anyone know who's older, noah or frank? o:

[stable terrace]

Ran into the same issue with Anne. She's listed on the official wiki as liking fruit juice, but i gave her blueberry juice and it appears to be neutral when looking at her character page 🥹

[kindred beacon]

i'm not at the liberty to check if all instances where fruit juice is listed as a liked gift is correct. i can remove this, but please feel free to remove any wrong listings in the future!

[kindred beacon]

actually i'll just remove all instances sodfhuadf

[rough grail]

is this the primary place people talk about coral island wiki stuff?

I'm trying to get used to not 2nd guessing everything I'm doing, but still feel like I should log: I'm consolidating the 2 weather pages into one page and keeping the one linked on the front page

[kindred beacon]

Hi Pine! Yes! For either Fandom or official one. Consolidating them into one page would be great. I'm not sure why Weathers is a page name

I can delete the Weathers page and update the frontpage once you're done!

[rough grail]

i'm just gonna redirect it

the front page says "Weather" but currently goes to "Weathers" which is a little weird but not terrible

also i think there's 6 weathers (fish & insects pages list Blizzard) but i'm not currently in winter so i can't double check

[rough grail]

im gonna redirect it the other way "weathers" sounds weird to me

[kindred beacon]

yeah... but page names should almost always be singular. easier when we need to use it in a sentence

if it's plural by default we'll need to pipe it each time

[rough grail]

yea, i set it up sorta like that but now the front page says "weather" and links to "weathers" which redirects back to "weather"

[kindred beacon]

haha will update! thank you so much!!!

[rough grail]

it looks like most of the pages linked on the front page of the .wiki are pluralized and most of them do auto-redirect, but. like, crops/fruit plants/fruit trees/animals/farm animals/etc.

[kindred beacon]

updated!

homepage's code can be improved, so I've been ignoring it Unlocked the page in case anyone wants to work on it, but will protect if it gets vandalized

[rough grail]

(b^-^)b !

since i'm here, i've edited all the pages that link to Skills to Mastery (at least via piping in cases where mastery wouldn't sound natural) and i don't think i have the ability to delete this page, but, Skills is out of date & can be replaced https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Skills

[kindred beacon]

thank you! deleted

[errant ginkgo]

The wiki is looking great, I’m curious about game badges/trophies/achievements and if the wiki will indicate which ones are available at the current release.

[vapid aurora]

<@&909661844698972160>

[vagrant bloom]

Ideally, everything will be documented. It's just a matter of putting in the hours.

[kindred beacon]

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Achievement
Are these not all available in 1.0?

Sadly I don't really go after badges or trophies too Hopefully another editor gives it some love.

[errant ginkgo]

That is a full list however they are not available with the 1.0 release.

[kindred beacon]

oh no

[vagrant bloom]

Steam says there are 51, the page lists 52, so it isn't far off.

[errant ginkgo]

PS5 has 50 trophies. For whatever reason “Healing the World,” “Bon Voyage,” and “Coral Island’s Sweetheart” are not trophies. Plus the trophy for getting all other trophies. 52 - 3 + 1 = 50.

[rough grail]

trying to figure out how the Shop template works. is there any way i can add icons to it

[kindred beacon]

What kind of icons?

[rough grail]

i'm replacing all the crafting tables with shop tables so there's less whitespace. it's mostly artisan equipment (exceptions so far: tap)

[kindred beacon]

Oh, the icons are not uploaded yet, that's why they're not showing up.

I opted to remove the default icon if no icon's uploaded because it looked funky

I'll get to them in a bit!

But I don't think you should use Shop template The shop template adds the category Sells X and Shop with X as currency which is used to automate tables for related pages.

You can use article-table class instead!

[rough grail]

hmm, fair. At the moment they're using a thing that puts in icons but it doesn't show the names of things so i don't like using it

[kindred beacon]

It looks like we're using a Recipes by category table in the fandom wiki But that would need creation of each of the pages first

[rough grail]

it's mostly this that's hard for me to read

[kindred beacon]

Oh no. I see now

They're using the {{Cost}} template

You can update them to use {{Icon}} instead. So {{Icon|Hay|x=10}}

[rough grail]

oh neat! (b^-^)b

[vagrant bloom]

We have several items that are labelled as resources, and link to a non-existent page. What items would be considered "resources"? I'm assuming ores, wood, and such, but I could imagine that might include anything used in crafting - also possibly cooking.

[kindred beacon]

Resources is anything that's listed as such in the game. They have categories right under their names o:

We don't decide which one to show. Sadly, that also means showing the weird way CI categorizes (or double categorizes) things

you'd need the file if you want to check if another item is considered a "resource" but not shown as such in-game

[vapid aurora]

"type" is just for whatever the menu shows, any custom sorting or categorizing we wanna do would be under "groups"

[vagrant bloom]

@kindred beacon Well, that makes it easy then. I'll look for that.

[vagrant bloom]

There are quite a few item categories.

What causes the "Pages with wrong input" thing?

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Hay

[vapid aurora]

the infobox

when an invalid "type" is inputted

[rough grail]

hmm

[vagrant bloom]

I went into the game and captured basically that same image, which is how I knew the type "Ranch". So the infobox template is incomplete.

It wouldn't surprise me if the clippers and milking can were also ranch. It also wouldn't surprise me if hay was literally the only ranch item.

[rough grail]

shears and milk pail are tool

[rough grail]

added skills to mastery.

[rough grail]

in terms of other projects, i'm back at working on produce quality at different upgrades/fertilizers.

[paper raft]

I got this off the wiki, I think it needs changing cus the underwater creatures, at least the cannonball and pompom crab, are obtainable - unsure of the others

[vagrant bloom]

Sexy shimp is obtainable, in one of the deeper areas.

[paper raft]

Tyty

[vagrant bloom]

I'm pretty sure I remember the Cannonball Jellyfish (bronze kelp area?) and Pom-Pom Crab (silver kelp area?) as well. I have a vague memory that might have been the Sunflower Starfish.

When I get a chance, I'll check my journal.

The Fandom wiki has full pages on many of the critters, but the official wiki does have this page: https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Critter

[sterile hatch]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Announcing_Fandom's_2024_Community_Connect_in_Phoenix,_Arizona 🎉

[verbal socket]

@viscid swift Leah -

Theo

Jim - you've only got two events listed at all

[viscid monolith]

Thank you Piperbird! I will help checking on this

[sterile hatch]

More on QuickAnswers: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Pikushi/Updates_on_Quick_Answers_and_Adding_a_Vetting_Period
Trust & Safety Transparency Report: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Announcing_Fandom's_First_Transparency_Report

[wise fjord]

Hello! Quick and small note, Wataru is listed as a datable townie on the wiki! It's listed in the first sentence

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Wataru

[kindred beacon]

Oh no! HAHA thanks for catching that! Updating

[kindred beacon]

does it make sense for tools like Axe to have a separate page for each upgrade? Or is it ok to house all upgrades in the Axe page?

[rough grail]

i dont think there's enough differences between the axe upgrades to warrant new pages

[vagrant bloom]

I agree.

[vapid aurora]

Technically they should be separated

Although similar in function they are basically entirely different items, with different capabilities, recipes and assets

Having them separate would be the most logical solution technicality-wise

And then an "Axe (group)" page could be made like for juices, to house the general information about axes

[rough grail]

what are the different axe recipes? is it just the next level axe upgrade?

[vapid aurora]

Yes

Different costs, different materials, different amounts

[rough grail]

still, it's just one thing and i feel like it's more useful to have the information all on the same page

[vapid aurora]

Already said that the information would still be in one page, on the (group) page, but each Axe should also have its own page

These are not mutually exclusive possibilities

[kindred beacon]

i agree with mike. i'm partial to separation for the details of each of them too then have a group page

[vagrant bloom]

Some of the crop sale prices on the Fandom wiki are off.

And the profit numbers are off for Hot peppers on the official wiki, because they don’t take the two season thing into account.

[kindred beacon]

the formula was originally from this google sheet shared here before (at least before mike's update), but it needs to be updated because of a lot of factors that weren't considered before/we consider now. so if you have a new calculation for it, we can poke mike to update the module.

responding to a message last time this was brought up and updated

[vagrant bloom]

Trivially easy to create a Google sheet for that. One thing we need though is the correct distribution percentages for crops from different seed levels. I’m pretty sure the table given in the Fandom wiki on the Laboratory page is not accurate.

I was actually writing my own so that I could calculate other numbers as well.

[rough grail]

the crop quality ratios on the fandom wiki is absolutely not accurate. official wiki is somewhat accurate as i go through the upgrades and collect data, but i'm in the middle of that process

(personal guess that the last person to work with this had the crop quality skill that shifted quality up a little)

[kindred beacon]

you're bringing up a diff thing right? not that you're considering that as part of the formula

but feel free to update the wiki! i wonder if we can poke devs for actual numbers too

[vagrant bloom]

@rough grail I didn’t see the table on the official wiki. Where is that?

[vagrant bloom]

I’m sorry, but I don’t understand the question.

[rough grail]

this one? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Produce_Quality#Quality_mechanic

[kindred beacon]

why is the distribution percentage of crops at different seed levels relevant to profit per day?

since i don't believe it is? i assume you're bringing up a different thing and was just confirming

[vagrant bloom]

Average profit per day is affected by the probability distribution of getting better crops, which are worth more and produce a higher profit.

[kindred beacon]

i don't believe we should consider those at all, at least for the basic calculation

[vagrant bloom]

@rough grail No, those numbers aren’t right either. You can still get basic crops from osmium seeds.

[rough grail]

yeah, i know.

i'm in the process of finding this data

[vagrant bloom]

If you don’t take them into account, the numbers aren’t realistic. Even osmium seeds only produce osmium crops about half the time.

[rough grail]

i can tell you on the official wiki, i've only updated basic crop quality percentages so far. that's the only one that i think is "accurate". i'm fairly certain bronze quality is wrong but i'm not certain on how wrong.

but i also don't know if it's that useful to have this information on the crop page, at least not right now, because of how variable it is depending on how far people are in the game + whether they're using fertilizer + whether they have the produce quality or double crop skill. when i'm on the crop page, i'm mainly checking this number against other crops so that i know which one is best comparatively.

[kindred beacon]

exactly. there are just too many variables, and to get the average you're calculating for, people will have to play the game in a way we deem to be optimal. so basic stuff only.

we can remove the osmium price in the profit per day? and link to relevant articles where the price, quality, etc may be affected

or maybe your calculation may find a home in these more in-depth pages but def not in the crop page and its tables

[vagrant bloom]

I agree, perhaps even a dedicated page?

I haven’t put in all the factors yet, and we don’t even know all the numbers, so I’m hardly going to be claiming actual accuracy. So far it’s only useful for getting relative profitability.

[kindred beacon]

only if you believe it doesn't fit in produce quality/price or anything related? we need to be mindful of the page names for the terminology. at least for the official wiki, i don't think we can get away with "(unofficial name)" in the intro for community-created stuff

[vagrant bloom]

Good point. On the Stardew Valley wiki, they have pages that analyze the profit of various artisan machines, and use the term productivity.

But I think my recommendation is to go ahead and calculate numbers using a specific set of assumptions, and list those, but refer to an advanced page that lists all the different factors and explains how the affect profitability.

Best bet might be a JavaScript calculator that we can embed in the page, with check marks for various skills, using fertilizer, etc. That would be pretty easy to write.

[vagrant bloom]

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[peak gorge]

Hi I don't know if this is the right place to put this but I organized the exp points you get in slaying each monsters. I was trying to max out my combat skill but I don't know which monster were giving large exp points so I organized them my own way after slaying each monster a day. I don't know how to edit the table in the coral wiki so I'm just gonna post the data I've gathered here

[kindred beacon]

ooh thank you for verifying the monster variations too i updated spehkter with the correct value, but i didn't add the variations yet because combat isn't really my niche and i don't want to add other info i'm unsure of (health, dmg, etc). the goal is to have a page for each monster eventually though! thank you!

[rough grail]

crop quality chance approximations 40% done (bronze); sample sizes are on my wiki profile

[rough grail]

contributions welcome but you can't have any skills skewing the results (use the auto harvester not the scythe)

[vagrant bloom]

SKEW ALL THE STATS!!!

[rough grail]

noting that i have no idea if the monster data (health, damage) for the location variants is right, but i added in all the loot list in the journal

[supple plover]

i think ill make a new farm file for wiki stuff as ive noticed the enchantment tab in the official wiki is a deserted town filled with cobwebs..so i think ill do that

i wont do the point specific things as thats -waayyy- over my league, so ill just list the enchants..unless..someone is already doing that

[rough grail]

every bit is useful!

[shy reef]

I just caught a damselfish in the Ocean (dock) region, while the wiki claims it's in the Ocean (beach) region. Before I edit the page, was curious if somebody could check their computer and see what it has to say about the location of damselfish (I don't have the computer yet).

[rough grail]

are you at the pier where you dive or over by the boats by fishnsips/zarah's house

[rough grail]

(my computer has only said there's damselfish at the beach ocean)

[shy reef]

Just outside Zarah's house, on that little part with the steps

[rough grail]

strange! good to know & can you tell me what date this happened in?

[shy reef]

Winter 22 (may have been 21), during snow

[sterile hatch]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Antonio_R._Castro/Technical_Updates:_March_8,_2024

[rough grail]

checking, but as everything that's been in the mason jars/kegs has been rounded to the nearest 5, as far as i can tell?

i ask becuase it causes this chart of hourly profits to be a little weird

[rough grail]

also my assumption is that artisanal quality prices are based off of input → the formula, so they're also rounded and importantly, not base price * 1.15/1.3 etc.

sorta rule of thumb is if the input price is between 68-85, go with your heart.

exceptions: rice

[vagrant bloom]

Aged saki is insanely expensive.

[ebon willow]

I think it would be more informative if we can get more details about the ‘other’ sphekter

[rough grail]

which wiki? what do you mean by "other"?

[ebon willow]

earth, ice, wind and fire sphekter

[rough grail]

if there's an element label for the sphekter, that means you need to be in the corresponding mine for it

but the sphekter is the same

[sterile hatch]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Announcement_about_the_Fandom_Wiki_Representative_program

[wise fjord]

Quick note: On Kira's wiki page underneath the Gift section it says "giving gifts to Kenny will raise the friendship level" instead of "Kira"

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Kira

[rough grail]

got it, ty!

[rough grail]

working on enchantment info, this is remaining items i need to check

oh i guess coral guide has this info if i click on each item

[sterile hatch]

Farewell folks! It's been nice working with you these past months 🥹

[oak vortex]

on https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Pumpkin and https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Leah it says that leah likes pumpkin, but she dislikes it~ i'm not sure how to edit it myself 😦

[abstract walrus]

Hello! I'm hoping to join the Coral Island wikian community because I love the game and love documenting things. Is there a list of projects that are being worked on, or are we making/updating/modifying pages as we come across issues or areas that are incomplete?

[vagrant bloom]

@abstract walrus This is a self-directed operation. Work on things that are of interest to you.

[abstract walrus]

Cool thanks!

[kindred beacon]

sorry i undid your edit to theo's, i just realized what your view could possibly be at the time of the edit when i saved it @_@ @abstract walrus

but i believe that the dialogue tab will show up if the page exists! so you don't need to use custom tabs template 😄

i hope to get back to the wiki grind again soon ;_;

[vagrant bloom]

@oak vortex There is an automated thing on the site. When you add a person to the correct list on the item page (pumpkin) then eventually (next time the query runs - overnight?) the person page will be updated. So the Leah page is now correctly showing that she dislikes pumpkins.

[abstract walrus]

All good! my bad, didn't see this earlier.

Thanks for letting me know! I noticed the dialogue tab wasn't appearing for a bunch of townies, so I thought maybe I had to do something about it lol. Still learning the ins and outs of wiki!

[eternal pebble]

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[ocean ibex]

Will someone start to add the beta content to the wiki or not before the release ?
I'm doing some gifts tests in case someone is interested for the wiki ☺️

[ocean owl]

You could certainly make drafts on your own files but I wouldn’t upload anything until it’s live

[ocean ibex]

Ok thanks ^^

[sudden basin]

If anybody wants me to make a spreadsheet and has information pertaining to the current workings of the beta update I’m willing to make it. If there is somewhere to donate my own info to something already established please share 🙏🏻 my special interest is spreadsheets so I’m itching to join in and help with wiki info

[abstract tartan]

Hello I started a gdoc giving the "gold per day" profit of each crops, but the fruit trees are a bit cluncky since it's only worth late, if anyone has ideas i'm open
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxKQcnM9K6R9oXFOVCfHCVfrJmP8T9tPfidMTh8_IWk/edit?usp=sharing

I think it would be nice to add this profit to the wiki, at least for the non fruit trees

[warped bison]

Which wiki is primarily being used? Having two seems confusing

Oh nvm I found this: https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Main_Page

[abstract tartan]

oooh it's been added i love it it's so useful

[viscid swift]

This one is hosted and maintain by us! We also welcome everyone contribution in the wiki 🫶

[abstract tartan]

could we add this picture or something similar to the wiki fish location section ?
#1196123682674843689 message

[abstract tartan]

also a bit of text specifying that morning = 6 to 12, ect

[sharp siren]

How would one become a wiki editor for the official wiki? Because there are some… barren pages

[kindred beacon]

Hi! You only need an account and a confirmed email iirc! Anyone is free to edit 😄

Although I don't think it's possible/easy to edit with mobile

[shy basin]

Is there a csv (or other format) data dump for things like crops, artisan items, etc?

[abstract tartan]

i can't access the wiki anymore

[viscid swift]

https://coralwiki.stairwaygames.com/

Can you try this link?

[abstract tartan]

thank you !

[abstract tartan]

i'm having an issue, whenever i press M on my keyboard it will open the "rename" tab and aboard all my changes or ask me if i'm sure i want to leave the page, what i don't want to....

i just wanna type "storm"

https://coralwiki.stairwaygames.com/wiki/Special:MovePage/Main_Page it opens this

[abstract tartan]

found this, i can't just edit my shortcuts myself nor in chrome options, i'm doomed i think, all of these work by just pressing the letter once on any wiki page

[abstract tartan]

can anyone add the map for me, i think i'm not allowed to do it
https://coralwiki.stairwaygames.com/w/index.php?title=Fish&veaction=edit&section=2#Locations

https://coralwiki.stairwaygames.com/w/images/3/31/Fishing_location_Map.png

file is too big to add it directly, not allowed to add a link to the file from the wiki, random shortcuts dismissing all work, very bad preview while changing something (have to save, look at the page then go back to edit even in visual editing), no wonder the wiki is looking a bit rough and empty

[fierce vessel]

Anyone know why the wiki is suddenly coming up as not secure and being inaccessible? And I did try the link above, same issue.

[viscid monolith]

Uwaa I will ask the team about this! D:

[fierce vessel]

Thank you! 😁. Sorry it’s even an issue tho it’s a bummer all around

[viscid monolith]

You're most welcome! Nah it's okay! Thank you for bringing this to our attention tho, I too gasped loudly when I checked the wiki link😭

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Black_Market error on this page. it says its open on monday, tue, thu but its actually tue,thu,fri

[errant atlas]

Yea I saw that too and wondered. I use a very private browser and wondered if it was me but then remembered I was on my laptop with the very bad Edge browser lol

[fierce vessel]

Yeah I thought that for a sec too but I tried 3 different browsers on both my phone and pc so I figured it wasn’t on my end lol happy it seems to be fixed now

[gusty portal]

Am I doing something wrong for romancing the npc? I’m trying to get married to Suki and got her to 4 hearts but I haven’t gotten her letter to meet her at the beach..is this a bug or do I need to do something to get her to send the letter to me?

[wise fjord]

I'd recommend posting this in the general chat or bug to confirm this! Might be a bug, so check if anyone else has had this issue

For the animal festival, the wiki says the shop has Hay but the icon is fiber instead. I'm assuming it's hay but wanted to confirm that. The image used for it is titled as 423Hay so that might be the problem

[serene sparrow]

Are we able to get the updated Tool Upgrade cost requirements for the Fishing Pole and Bug Net on the wiki? Neither have listed the Bronze level upgrade, neither do they list the material requirements, and the "Master"/Osmium upgrade cost is incorrect compared to in-game.

Bronze Fishing Pole - Upgrade Cost: 2,000 coins; 5 Bronze Kelp Essence; 20 Wood; Fishing Pole
Silver Fishing Pole - Upgrade Cost: 5,000 coins; 5 Silver Kelp Essence; 20 Wood; Bronze Fishing Pole
Gold Fishing Pole - Upgrade Cost: 10,000 coins; 5 Gold Kelp Essence; 5 Hardwood; Silver Fishing Pole
Osmium Fishing Pole - Upgrade Cost: 15,000 coins; 5 Osmium Kelp Essence; 20 Hardwood; Gold Fishing Pole

Bronze Bug Net - Upgrade: 2,000 coins; 5 Bronze Kelp Essence; 20 Wood; Bug Net
*Silver Bug Net - Upgrade: 5,000 coins; 5 Silver Kelp Essence; 20 Wood; Bronze Bug Net
*Gold Bug Net - Upgrade: 10,000 coins; 5 Gold Kelp Essence; 5 Hardwood; Silver Bug Net
*Osmium Bug Net - Upgrade: 15,000 coins; 5 Osmium Kelp Essence; 20 Hardwood; Gold Bug Net

[vapid aurora]

which wiki are you refering to here?

the fandom one or the official one

[serene sparrow]

official - https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Tool

[cloud prawn]

Hey, because I'm new I'm not sure what to notify (or if it's needed at all ) but for transparency's sake, I just uploaded the 1.1 promo art + a couple other official arts on the fandom wiki and edited a few gallery pages as well.

[errant atlas]

Hi wiki friends, please see my last two post in here. Not sure it’s a bug in game and the scene was not added but if it doesn’t actually exists, the wiki needs to change https://discord.com/channels/623097219628662784/1267272963187806248

[crisp ice]

Definitely should be updated with the differing details - but for the one you can't trigger, it'll be difficult to update that one until we're sure it's not a bug
I haven't reached that point yet so I can't personally update it with accurate information, but it's good to know that the details in the wiki don't match what happened.
And just to confirm, this is the official wiki not the fandom wiki that's differing, correct? I'm figuring that's the case, just want to make sure

[errant atlas]

Correct for the official wiki. The fandom one has the same info though. My friend told me she found a video that mentioned this event was taken out but not more than that

Hopefully the devs can confirm

[crisp ice]

Ah, just noticed - I don't think there's any mention on the wiki for the recipes for the food, unless you manually craft it? I know there's recipes gifted to you by townies. I think I'll try making a note of which recipes I get in the mail & update respective food pages to note the other way of receiving the recipe.
Mentioning here in case anyone else wants to join on doing that, 'cause it'll take me some time lol

[indigo summit]

I noticed the town rank page on the fandom wiki doesn't describe which map areas unlock at which town ranks. Would it be possible for someone with this knowledge to add those details?

[rough wasp]

hi, to notify. this is the changes that i made in official wiki
adding more ring description and details, adding cellar key icon and how to get, and fixing minor typo, added rysy page (need info sksks)

[hazy jacinth]

Just to chime in and tell y'all that I edited the "Pet" page to include the recent update (players can adopt 3 pets now) and added a picture and sub-topic under the Community Center page (picture of mapview of the community center, sub-topic titled 'areas' which describe the five rooms in the community center, though I had only written two of the five).

[shy basin]

Shouldn't this be updated to 2am, from 1am? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Time

Are these numbers correct for produce quality?

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Produce_Quality#Quality_mechanic

Are there details on the wiki about how much flash fertilizer works? I'm interested in comparing flash vs normal fertilizer.

[rough wasp]

flash is kinda... complicated

[shy basin]

How so?

[wise fjord]

Where do we get images such as icons, pfp, and more to upload into the gallery on the wiki?

[rough wasp]

⛏️

[wise fjord]

How do we delete pages from the Wiki? I messed up and accidentally titled the page as "Salmet" instead of "Slamet" because I'm dyslexic as hell and now I can't change it lol. I made a new page though for Slamet so I just need to delete old one

[rough wasp]

official wiki/fandom?

[wise fjord]

Official wiki!

[rough wasp]

mm i think i dont have the access to do so

[modern hill]

(Eriska probs needs to / can get deletes sorted)

[wise fjord]

I added seasonal outfits and expressions into the galleries for all datables and townies! Some are missing images as they haven't been uploaded (and I have no idea how to upload them lol) or there aren't any official images for specific character outfits or expressions so I can pull the blanks down if no one finds any

[sharp siren]

How would one go about doing that? 😅

[wise fjord]

How do we edit tables on the official wiki? I want to add cane nectar to the sugarcane artisan products table but when I click on edit, this page pops up and I don't know what to do there

[haughty pelican]

try edit by source

.. if that's not there, uh.. >->

[kindred beacon]

Hi! The list is generated by DPL. The page needs to be created and with the correct categories for it to be automatically added. You can do this by copy-pasting a similar page to sugar cane to get you started!

I also recommend to edit with source editor, not visual. visual editor is a pain

[kindred beacon]

You can "rename" a page by "moving" it, but the official wiki makes this unintuitive (vs Fandom's UI). You can "move" a page by pressing M while viewing the page. If delete is truly wanted, then only admins can do so. You'll have to ping one of the game devs, Mikevoir, or me for it!

[sharp siren]

I’ve been creating articles for keg products, and one thing I’ve noticed is importante is that the infobox has the “type” and “produced_by” parameters. It seems that’s how the system automagically links it to the correct categories

(BTW, if you see artisan products without copper/silver/gold/ossmium, that was me. My current farmer already has lots of bonuses, so I don’t trust the price I see in-game and am relying on the base price from the “Artisan Equipment” page)

[kindred beacon]

Oh, sorry, yes. Certain parameters like type and produced_by automatically adds the relevant categories to the page. this works for most parameters in the infoboxes of the wiki.

i haven't the game since 1.0 will have to check for the other prices

[sharp siren]

I'm trying to add documentation to Template:Infobox item (so we know what is available and how to use it). Does anyone know what this "bug" in the "Unlock Requirements" section is about?

[kindred beacon]

oh copied over from fandom, we can ignore that

[wise fjord]

I was using source editor but I was also very confused with it to. I think I kinda get it now, so I would make a category table page and then paste it ontl the sugarcane page?

so would I make the page and then paste it into this line?

[kindred beacon]

You only need to create the sugar cane page with all the correct parameters filled.

Sorry, I can't go and backread right now, may i ask what you're trying to do again? ;_; add sugar cae in artisan product?

[wise fjord]

The sugarcane page is already up, but in the table for artisan products there is only sugar listed. I wanted to add cane nectar into the table of artisan products for sugar cane but I'm struggling a lot lol. It seems like the table was made from a template that I can't edit or add too. The image right above is the source editor for the artisan products table

[kindred beacon]

is ther a page for can nectar?

[wise fjord]

nope!

Ohhhh would I make a page for cane nectar and then add that into the sugar cane page?

[kindred beacon]

yes! so basically the template is just collecting and showing all the pages that satisfy the category

i can't check rn what categories are needed for that table in specific

but as long as you copy a similar artisan product page and fill in the correct stuff in the infobox, it should show up 😮

[wise fjord]

Got it! Thank you so much! And lastly yes you can delete the other page since I already made a new page. The page to delete is "Salmet" since I misspelled Slamet and couldn't fix it. I am still learning haha

[kindred beacon]

you're welcome! and i love to help, i know our setup takes a bit of getting used to since it's not like usual wikis feel free to ping me anytime!!

will delete the other page later

[kindred beacon]

lmao my typos

[wise fjord]

Cane nectar page made!

[kindred beacon]

did it show up where you wanted it to?

[wise fjord]

YES!!!

Thank you for the help!!!

[kindred beacon]

YAY!!!

you're welcome!

[sharp siren]

Could one of the devs (or someone that ⛏️ ) please upload the image for "Large llama wool"? 🙂

Also, I tried to add some documentation to the "Infobox item" template. It isn't perfect, and I'd still recommend editing the source directly, but at least now we have an idea of what parameters it accepts

[sharp siren]

Also also, does anyone know why despite there being template data for the "Artisan product by category table", the visual editor says that there isn't 😐

[kindred beacon]

hi! the file already exists. is the page intentionally named with the capital L in llama?

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/File:Large_llama_wool.png

https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Large_Llama_wool

[kindred beacon]

not sure why it's like that 😦

[rough wasp]

one capital word for the file name really makes a difference huh

i giggled when i was editing this

[sharp siren]

YES 😄
When writing documentation for some template pages, I kept on stumbling on case-sensitivity issues 😅

[sharp siren]

Not really. I'd like to say I simply copied the casing from the "Artisan Equipment" page, but no; it is as "Large llama Wool" there 🤪

Can the page be renamed to reflect the proper in-game casing?

[kindred beacon]

oh no hahahah we'll hopefully fix all that as we make all the pages 😭

and yes! you should be able to do it too, i think. i hope it's not admin locked

but while viewing the page, you can press the M key to take you to the rename/move page!

ill let you try it out! but if you're not able, please ping me!

[rough wasp]

i just checked and yes, its not admin locked

[sharp siren]

Ah, apparently the page with the correct casing already exists (created by you, Salty), so I'll just redirect my page to yours

[sharp siren]

Hey, does anyone remember why the Bee house page was deleted? I was going to create it now, but it seems it was explicitly deleted before

[kindred beacon]

not sure, but it definitely needs its own page!

[rough wasp]

is there somewhere where we can see the 'gallery' where images for the wiki stored? or is it admin-only?

the image name is so sensitive kekw

[terse valley]

Hey everyone!
I looked at the German wiki today and noticed at the list of Fish that "Mine Only" was translated into "Nur meins" which means "only mine" (as in "this book is mine") 😄
A mine is Mine in German, the same word haha, the plural is "Minen", so the correct thing would be "Nur Minen" ☺️

[tawdry oasis]

Hi! I'd like to help out with the new wiki. I have quite a lot of experience editing the official Palia wiki, which I still help with as well (currently 19k edits), so I know how to navigate the wiki and how to work with templates, categories etc. But would like to know a couple things before I dive in:

1. Is the Fandom wiki supposed to be transferred (copied) into the new one?
2. Are categories manually created?
3. Are talk pages being used or is this channel the more common means of communication?

Might have some more questions later but this is what I'm wondering at the moment. 😄

[tawdry oasis]

Do you mean this? https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Category:Images

[rough wasp]

yess, thank you

[untold dove]

i'm seeing a lot of comments on the Cherry Blossom Potluck page saying that items marked as Loved only got a Neutral response, the same thing happened to me using a gold tier monkfish

[winter maple]

Hello, I have a wiki ask. Would anyone be able to change the "Catching" section in "Mastery" page.
The text is about fish. Example is Drogonfly but still uses fish mechanic of difficulty which is not present in insects/critters. I guess it's meant to be rarity?
https://coralisland.wiki/wiki/Mastery#Catching

[kindred cape]

Hey! Not sure if this is the right bit but I noticed the Slime of Transmutation reads as if you can only put ore, bars, kelp and kelp essence in. But you can avtually put other stuff in there now. I especially like putting Titan Arum in there to make it Osmium quality 😅

[feral beacon]

dafuq, I didnt know that works

I have been on a mission lately to complete all the fish/critter/etc donations and stumbled upon the Sturgeon fish. In the wiki it states it is available during spring in the deep forest, but unlike the yellow eel, that will be listed as a potential catch at the beach on the computer, the sturgeon is never listed there. Is it really available during spring if the fishing forcast in the game states otherwise? I have been fishing for 2 days now from 12:00-02:00 and have not gotten any sturgeon fish while catching the eel which has a way higher rarity was possible in 1 session

[steel lodge]

:0 does it?!

[viscid swift]

Thanks riverfox! We'll fix the in game description

[abstract walrus]

Hi everyone, I could use some help figuring out the {{Character tabs}} template. All Townies have {{Character tabs}} as the first line of their source code, but only some (Theo and Aaliyah I think) have a "Dialogue" tab on their page. Does anyone know why the other Townies don't, and how I could go about changing that? I'm doing a fresh playthrough and I hope to update all Townie dialogues as I play!

[candid zephyr]

I believe they only come out in rain

I caught all mine in rainy weather at the lake, can't remember the season though, check your computer on the next rainy day and have a look to see if they spawn anywhere 👍

[feral beacon]

The Wiki says "any" in the weather section but I have them all now waited for summer

[candid zephyr]

Ah okay awesome glad you got it in the end 🤣

[kindred beacon]

Hello! The page isn't created yet so it doesn't show up for the others! You just have to create it and the tab should show up automatically 😄

[modern hill]

The games map (which is what sturdy computer utilizes) does not currently have a version that includes the Deep Forest
The only fishing forecast spots via sturdy computer will be Ocean Forest & River Forest

The Deep Forest IS a viable fishing spot, which generally its spawns are any weather. But due to in game map restrictions, the sturdy computer doesn’t factor it in forecasts currently

[feral beacon]

Unlike other entries that state "deep forest only", sturgeon is listens as "forest only", which could mean any of your listed options of: ocean forest, river forest, deep forest. The information offered is confusing due to inconsistency..

[silk tusk]

Hello, I didn't find anything on the wiki about going out with NPCs. Does this generate any friendship points when we go out with the NPC?

[modern hill]

Yes, hangouts give relationship points

[bright saffron]

Hi sorry if it's not the right place but i wanted to know how i could contribute to the wiki, there are some mistakes here and there, but i don't really know why i can't comment on pages or help correct those errors

[keen crane]

Soo...what's up with the wiki? It looks like the last 500 edits are all new pages for spam and bots

[viscid monolith]

I'll be checking on them, Fredowns! Thank you for bringing this to our attention

[rough wasp]

oof yeah 👀 that sure is a lot of spam bots

[maiden pilot]

Is there any crafting recipes the need Nutty sap? There's no section for crafting recipes on the wiki page like there is for Resin.

[rough wasp]

no x'D just 'Torch' Which is.. not available on in-game crafting list

[half fractal]

Semeru seems to be neutral to grape wine. Just gave him a bottle for his birthday and he simply thanked me for the gift, no addition to his loves or likes list

[buoyant pebble]

so question, where do the bouquets usually land? I've found that it tends to be in the "liked" gifts area, but some are nuetral or even Hated. I've given the doctor lady (can't remember her name) a bouquet on her birthday and it was in her "Hated" gifts. I gave Semeru a bouquet and that didn't land anywhere, so I think he's nuetral to them. Most villagers seem to like them though, but the ||Mermaid|| Princess seems for that to be a "loved" gift. I gave that to her on her birthday and immediately got two hearts with her.

[heavy wedge]

The wiki is terribly outdated and ill-maintained, unfortunately. In the future, I’d recommend Coral Guide to get your gift list!