📚wiki-editors

[dapper imp]

also, where's Raj's coffee stand?

I don't think it's marked on the map in game

but I can mark it here

[sudden bluff]

where i'm standing

[dapper imp]

or the clothing store 🤔

it's in game already, right?

[sudden bluff]

Yep, you can go in

Clothing store is next to the salon

[dapper imp]

does taco truck actually sell any tacos?

[ashen hinge]

Not yet but I think that will be implemented in the future.

[dapper imp]

also, where's Luke's store? I don't see it on in game map

[sudden bluff]

Is the furniture store listed? It's next to the furniture store

[dapper imp]

this building?

[cunning oak]

yup, the right side w the fancy door is furniture, and the left is socket and pan

[dapper imp]

also, does anyone happen to know where the fast travel points are?

[languid mango]

waypoint for the diving pier

Lookout

Forest Cavern

[dapper imp]

thank you!

[languid mango]

Woodlands

Lake temple

The one near the carpenter

the one in the museum

the town waypoint

abandoned villa

[dapper imp]

got them all I think, thank you!!

[kind tundra]

Thanks for fixing it!

[languid mango]

the one in the farm

[merry nebula]

I just caught a cod. Fall 17, 16:50 breezy day. just south of the balanced rock piles west of the farm in the river.

[merry nebula]

ghost mantis doesn't require rain. I caught one on a breezy day as well.

[languid mango]

The observatory icon in the interactive map moved next to the cavern.

[dapper imp]

weird. fixed it

[novel edge]

oh ive been making a bunch of spreadsheet changes to the likes dislikes tab, ngl everything else kinda freaked me out because i found it's easier to use that.
i just looked for the items that were mostly empty and went around gifting those XD

i'm not playing the game at the moment, but i saw wemod has some cheats, and i have a sub so i figured i'd help if i could 😭

[kind tundra]

I have all the stuff to complete the vegetable section in the likes/dislikes. So that will be complete by end of day tomorrow!!

[ruby sinew]

putting these for @dapper imp, we are currently missing Hammerhead shark, Chub, Koi, Tofu and Quail egg pngs for wiki.

someone posted pic of hammerhead on discord but idk how to properly crop

[sudden bluff]

So uh, I don't know if anyone else tried, but if you dig up the ground near the mine, you get a lot of very grumpy ground beetles

You can also get coffers

[nova flume]

Cut out and uploaded the Hammerhead!

[sudden bluff]

@ruby sinew do you mind muchly if I just edit the wiki pages for phrasing?

[ruby sinew]

no go ahead

english is not my first language 😄

[sudden bluff]

Okay, thank you! I'll just clean up typos and stuff 🙂

[ruby sinew]

for wiki editors: "North of Coral Inn" is actually called Garden Lane

[merry aspen]

Hello, I'm currently working on some wiki infos (Summer crops right now) How do other editors get the images out of the game, is there someone manually editing them or is there a media dump somewhere?

[languid mango]

i was able to get all the images of crops from the wiki page.

i don't know how wiki works, but kalinka was able to upload them in the wiki

[merry aspen]

Which one? I want to add for example Pineapple (seeds)

[languid mango]

oh, my bad. not actually sure if seed images are uploaded. sorry

[merry aspen]

I acutally found Kalinkas uploads:
https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=500&user=Cimeex&offset=20221022205122|Common_starfish.png

I will have a look there, thanks for the hint!

[sudden bluff]

Oh, are you working on the crops page right now? The Winter seeds are offered starting at rank C, I just don't dare put in a table for them

If you are not editing I'll just put in that teeny bit of info first so people know

[merry aspen]

Im not at winter crops since Im just about to finish summer :)

Just started a few minutes ago, still learning how wiki edits work and stuff

[sudden bluff]

Ah yeah, but if I edit and change it'll change the whole page, right? They are on the same page (I am also new to wiki)
To be absolutely safe I'll wait then, I just noticed that it said they're not available yet which is untrue

[merry aspen]

Im not sure, I assume wikis work with diffs but im not certain

[ruby sinew]

just put Pinapple.png or Pinapple seeds.png

if its uploaded it will come up

if its not, it will automatically appear after being uploaded

oh its icon table, let me do it

[merry aspen]

just saved my latest edits, not all images where up, i wasnt sure if i can add the pineapple seeds without brekaing anything

[ruby sinew]

if u have the image just make sure to upload it with in-game name

dont make "Pineapple seeds" the "Pineapple Seeds"

[merry aspen]

I dont have any source images, just adding data to the sites instead of new media

[ruby sinew]

see u typed coffee beans but its actually without the s

[merry aspen]

i didnt change anything about coffee beans beside prices

[ruby sinew]

oh ok must be someone else then sorry

[sudden bluff]

I realised blood clam is in the wrong place on the scavengables list, it's listed as 'beach' but it should be under ocean

Oh uh for items that are found via scavenging
the source, do I put Foraging or Scavenging?

[lusty pelican]

uhh did someone say they are putting down cutscene/event for townsfolks?

cause i just got a cutscene and wrote down the conversation plus what happen-ish

[languid mango]

also in the scavengables, i think bamboo shoots are in summer not spring?

[ruby sinew]

what do u mean

[lusty pelican]

Just don't know what to do with it or how to put in the wiki in general.

[ruby sinew]

bamboo is multiple season

[sudden bluff]

@ruby sinew this, the Source: should it be Scavenging or Foraging? I saw some said Scavenging but the page is Foraging?

[ruby sinew]

foraging

[sudden bluff]

All right, I'll change them to Foraging then

[merry aspen]

Question:
Is the price of Artisan goods influenceable? I just sold some Large yogurt but the prices are off according to Wiki, looks like calculated value?

[sudden bluff]

Ngh... black trumpet has an error ingame, the bronze version gives you lower hp/energy than the base quality

[ruby sinew]

template automatically calculates when you enter base price. idk anything more about that 😄

its off by 1-2 coins at least...

[merry aspen]

maybe in game its rounded to next value devidable by 5 or something

Ok, template lets me set a value if have a specific one, thats neat.

[ruby sinew]

can u try to add locations also?

[sudden bluff]

I will try, but I cannot remember where I found most of them - I'm in winter so I don't want to put wrong information unless I can be sure
Uh, is there a name for the part of the forest that opens up after you complete the first altar

The part with the ghost

Or is it just Forest?

[pulsar elk]

Ginseng area

[sudden bluff]

Yeah, that patch
Because Matsutake is mostly found there (and sometimes outside of it, but rarely), and Ginseng only there

But I can't put 'ginseng area' in the wiki XD

[pulsar elk]

That what they call it in the sheet

Does not have official name yet and putting just forest would be incorrect

[ruby sinew]

x of forest

[sudden bluff]

Hmm but that suggests it's the already-open forest area, just in the west side of it

Not the one that you have to open via sesajen offerings

Sorry I'm being picky

Also is the area just south of our farm and north of the west beach also considered lookout?

*staring at ingame map

[ruby sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-well-never-know-the-history-guy-mystery-well-never-know-will-remain-hidden-gif-19155190

[sudden bluff]

Edit: NVM, I'll leave it - I can't think of a way to put it that wouldn't confuse people

[left widget]

I'm genuinely hoping there's an increase in the sell price of artisan products soon!

[ruby sinew]

ive worked on wiki all day cant feel my hands lmaooo

[sudden bluff]

Take a break D:

[ruby sinew]

but but artisan equipment and foraging pages has to look good 🥹

[dapper imp]

oh yeah, they need to be set manually in that case

the thing is, the game doesn't use formula, it uses values set manually per item, but they're based on that formula

oh wait the template on that page needs to be changed to quality price/artisan

I've made it round values similar to how the game does it for artisan goods. they're still off tho, because strictly speaking the game doesn't use the formula

[ruby sinew]

i might have used that template across all artisan equipment pages today

[dapper imp]

good thing it's easily replaceable with find and replace

it still sometimes needs values set manually because of the way they're set in game 🫤

it would've been way easier if they used the formula in game but they don't really do that

[merry aspen]

@dapper imp may i ask how to extract the images from the game? Do you unpak the .pak files?

[dapper imp]

yep

[merry aspen]

What tool do you use?

[dapper imp]

I've dmd you

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Kale is there a formula like artisan for recipes too? ive been writing by hand from cooking page

"{{Artisan goods|pickles=70|pickles_color=green|pickles_time=1 hour|pickles_hp=40|pickles_ep=40}}" this is pretty easy

[dapper imp]

yeah try the template page

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Artisan_goods
this lists the parameters it has

if the formula is off you need to specify the respective number

it's a pain but I find it a bit easier than putting everything manually

oh hmmm you mean for recipes

[ruby sinew]

yes

[dapper imp]

I know a hack to make them easier

buuuuut

the visual editor breaks its coding

every damned time

but yeah if it's not a huge problem I can make it pull from item infoboxes. we need to make those pages first tho

[ruby sinew]

should i continue doing my way for now?

[dapper imp]

you mean copypasting? if we're doing it my way it'll get replaced eventually tbh

[ruby sinew]

🥹 okay

[dapper imp]

yeah that' wiki work for you, stuff gets replaced, removed, and mercilessly edited over time 😢

I've grown pretty zen about it over the years

[sudden bluff]

This would mean it just pulls straight from the recipe page?

[dapper imp]

yes

from individual item pages

like SDV wiki does, have y'all seen it?

[sudden bluff]

Nope - don't play SDV so never looked xD

[dapper imp]

it's hacky but it's not like we have that many options on fandom

my time at portia / sandrock?

[sudden bluff]

Nope

I'll take a peek, but I think I kinda get the idea

[dapper imp]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Milk&action=edit
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Artichoke_Dip&action=edit

here, it's visible in the recipes section on milk page and in infobox for the recipe

I don't like how hacky it is, but oh well, better than copypasting tables

[sudden bluff]

Ahhhhhh I see what you mean

[dapper imp]

yeah kinda hacky

so if y'all are not against it we can try it and see how it goes

[foggy dew]

I'm good with it. I don't believe there are any recipe pages with an infobox yet

[dapper imp]

yep, it needs to be set up

you can buy some cooked dishes, right?

at least they don't have,,,, quality

[foggy dew]

Yes, some can be bought

[dapper imp]

I'll make one later today. or tonight

[ruby sinew]

we also need infobox for fish & bugs. "animals" one doesnt have all options like weather/season/location etc

[dapper imp]

yeah sure. I think we can use one for fish and bugs and other catchables

hmmm or maybe separate ones. idk

[ruby sinew]

i leave that up to you 😄

[dapper imp]

can we eat raw fish at all?

ugh I think I've already asked

but forgot to look it up in the files

[ruby sinew]

nope

[dapper imp]

hmm we can eat clams

but not fish? the weird farmer can eat tulips but not fish

oh well

[ruby sinew]

yea clams etc are foragables

[dapper imp]

it's set per item and not per category

[ruby sinew]

Also fish are used in cooking but its "any fish

some exceptions like salmon vs

[dapper imp]

idk if we even need to list that "any item" recipes on individual pages

a link to the cooking page might as well be enough

[sudden bluff]

The weird farmer munches on sea urchins but not fish

[dapper imp]

well. sea urchins are edible

just not whole how the farmer eats them 🥴

[sudden bluff]

Yeah, but I don't think you're supposed to put the whole thing in your mouth... I'm legit terrified of seeing my farmer eat durian

[dapper imp]

I always headcanon the farmer / builder as the town weirdo in those games

[sudden bluff]

Rummaging through trash bins, randomly hoeing up the beach...

[dapper imp]

a weirdo but a lovable one

[dapper imp]

munching on random flowers they've found in the forest or sea urchins

randomly handing folks raw eggs as gifts

[sudden bluff]

"I found one of the stinkiest plants in the world and thought it would make good honey"

[dapper imp]

fresh farm eggs are good tho

but a single egg as a gift

[dapper imp]

then they eat that honey and perish

[sudden bluff]

The amount of random collapsing I've done in all my various farming sims...

[dapper imp]

I try to make my farmers act like functional adults and avoid random collapsing. but you know how it works

the next day they're in their bed and someone took their money

[merry aspen]

Hello, because of Kalinkas hint how to extract the game files, I started generating some Data.

Is there anyone here, that might be able to generate Wiki templates out of this (can also transform in other strucures if neccessary)

   {
        "id": "item_22004",
        "displayName": "Melon",
        "price": 360,
        "sellPrice": 216,
        "sellAt": [
            "Sam"
        ],
        "stackable": true,
        "inventoryCategory": "Fruit",
        "displayKey": "Fruit",
        "description": "A sweet and juicy summer fruit.",
        "qualities": {
            "bronze": {
                "price": 415,
                "sellPrice": 248
            },
            "silver": {
                "price": 470,
                "sellPrice": 281
            },
            "gold": {
                "price": 540,
                "sellPrice": 324
            },
            "osmium": {
                "price": 720,
                "sellPrice": 432
            }
        }
    },

[dapper imp]

it's possible with Lua but I don't know lua

[merry aspen]

Any chance that you have guides to do this with a wiki? I have coding experience but not Wiki experience :D

[dapper imp]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Lua

[merry aspen]

Thanks

[dapper imp]

also, if you're planning on making modules, please try to make them as approachable to maintain and edit for a (relatively) low experienced editors

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Peony ?

there is no peony seed

[foggy dew]

I thought they were crops, but are they foragables?

[sudden bluff]

I thought peonies were crops too o_o

[thorny swallow]

I'm pretty sure I bought seeds from Sam for peonies

[lusty adder]

I just bought some this morning, y2 s1

[pulsar elk]

Peonies are crops but this picture is not peony

[foggy dew]

I copied it over, it had the poppy image for a minute but is fixed now,

[dapper imp]

are ores universally neutral or disliked?

[foggy dew]

neutral

[sudden bluff]

If you're editing the friendship page, Lily is missing a romanceable's heart

[dapper imp]

I'm going to rework it likely

now it lists a mess of universal preferences and individual ones

[sudden bluff]

Gotcha

[dapper imp]

hmmm. are they listed as simply resources in the game?

because minerals are neutral but metal ores are supposedly disliked

hmmm

what about bars, they're disliked, right?

so weird

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Crops can we delete artisan row after completing individual pages? there are more than one artisans for crops its just gonna get more crowded

[dapper imp]

also has anyone tried gifting geodes to anyone but scott?

[dapper imp]

yeah maybe. or maybe rework the table somehow 🤔

to maybe show base prices only

and all the other prices on item pages

[ruby sinew]

i think one of the blacksmiths like iti but i have to check my save

[dapper imp]

I'm more interested in the neutral reaction tbh

hmm are ores actually classified as minerals

hmm

[foggy dew]

I also just checked with Suki, and she hates Bronze Bar. So there may be separation between all these items.

[dapper imp]

oh Suki actually should hate them

it's her personal override for metal bars

[foggy dew]

Ahh okay

[dapper imp]

most others should dislike them

[foggy dew]

erika dislikes, so that is still true

[dapper imp]

hmm but why are they neutral towards ores then 🥴

[sudden bluff]

Ores and kelp are actually listed as 'resource'

[dapper imp]

it's true to the latest game version, right?

[foggy dew]

Yeah, I just booted it up

[dapper imp]

yeah but their gifting groups seem to be set separately from that

kelp is mostly disliked or hated. essences too except Ling iirc

[sudden bluff]

OH so that's what you meant, sorry for the brainfart

[dapper imp]

hmm what about those beach shells and such? beach scavengeables are listed as universal dislike but it doesn't seem to be the case in game?

wow I'm so unhappy about it

[foggy dew]

Maybe it's just not implemented? Like ores have not been (for whatever reason) assigned to that gifting group?

[dapper imp]

ohh maybe you're right

hmm idk where to look for that

[foggy dew]

neutral is just the absence of it showing up in their lists

[dapper imp]

yeah they should be disliked. theoretically

hmmm, Luke hates ores so they must be classified as minerals

🥴

anyone tried gifting bait? is it even giftable?

is it even. in game?

[ruby sinew]

nope, cant craft it

recipe unlocks but its not shown

[foggy dew]

Are the gems different than minerals?

[dapper imp]

yeah idk what minerals are

gems are everything from geodes

but it seems like minerals are ore and sand

[foggy dew]

hmm okay

[dapper imp]

but not coal 🫠

could anyone try gifting a random geode to anyone?

hmm the mass sheet lists bronze and silver ores to Archie as neutral, they should be loved, could anyone test that?

[sudden bluff]

silver ore to Archie is loved, I gave him one the other day

[dapper imp]

yeah so ore is minerals

what about sand to Archie?

[sudden bluff]

haven't tried, give me a sec

[dapper imp]

if it's neutral than "minerals" is just ores. weird

[foggy dew]

bree dislikes earth geode

[dapper imp]

thank you!

and coffers are neutral?

I still don't get what they mean by beach scavengeables

if it's not those shells then what

[sudden bluff]

waiting for archie to emerge XD

[foggy dew]

coffers neutral for alice

[dapper imp]

oh wait there's also DivingLoot

but those are likely underwater

[sudden bluff]

Sandstone neutral for Archie

[dapper imp]

thank you

[foggy dew]

what makes you think the shells are not beach scavengables?

[ruby sinew]

does millie's house have a name?

[dapper imp]

the beach scavengeables are listed as universally disliked but shells are not

[foggy dew]

not currently

[dapper imp]

it doesn't appear to. Garden Lane is the street it's on, it should be moved

[foggy dew]

What does Emma think of beach scavengable?

Because in-game she loves all shells.

[dapper imp]

she loves "shells" but dislikes "BeachScavangeables"

so it seems like shells is a neutral group

but what are the scavengeables

[foggy dew]

hmm okay. weird

[sudden bluff]

uh the fairy rose honey data in the megasheet got typoed or something, does anyone have the base price for it?

[dapper imp]

the wiki should have accurate numbers

on bee house page

I got them from the files

okay I'm going to just. list shells as neutrals for the time being

[sudden bluff]

Aha, thank you! It says 22 on the megasheet ._.

[dapper imp]

idk what those mysterious beach scavengeables are

is seaweed underwater scavengeable?

or salt

maybe it's those

[foggy dew]

It was 455, but the sheet it looks like was messed up for 5 days

[sudden bluff]

Ah right, the sheet havoc. Fixed the price back there as well

Both seaweed and salt are diving scavengeables

[dapper imp]

is Aaliyah really neutral for Coffee? she has a unique liked line for it even

yet the mega sheet says she's neutral

[foggy dew]

She does like it.

[dapper imp]

does she really also like those universal neutrals like bread or canola oil or turnip?

[ruby sinew]

hmm "utensils" doesnt show up here but "chef knife" does. How do we fix this? https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Items

[dapper imp]

use the source editor and remove the [[category:items]] from the page

I've removed it

[sudden bluff]

megasheet is weird due to people messing around with it

what is ... um... there's a 'green kelp' and i don't believe green kelp exists

unless it's the missing one

[dapper imp]

no green kelps in the item list whatsoever

did they mean seaweed 🥴

[foggy dew]

green kelp was in alpha. I believe it no longer exists.

It was the lowest tier

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Utensils and how do we add this to items?

[dapper imp]

press edit to create the page then add [[Category:Items]]

[hallow locust]

Adjusted the pinned message, hopefully this will help deter at least 1 or more persons from editing the formatting of the sheet

[dapper imp]

and does Wataru really like turnip? he has almost no non-universal preferences specified so theoretically turnip should be neutral for himm

[ruby sinew]

he doesnt even have a brithday yet

[dapper imp]

yeah all of those newer characters have no birthdays

or heart events

or bios even. and they have fewer lines than "older" characters

makes sense, I hope they add them soon

[sudden bluff]

Thank you @hallow locust T_T

[foggy dew]

Just tested this on bread and yes, she likes it.

[dapper imp]

interesting, thank you

what about Wataru?

or Takeba

hmm the mega sheet lists turnip as Wataru's liked but Takeba's neutral but they're both have those preferences set the same way

which of these is true? or is it both. it makes little sense for it to be both tho 🥴

[foggy dew]

both are neutral

[sudden bluff]

Offerings page issue:

so the altar list for ocean scavengeables has 'purple urchin', but the page is 'purple sea urchin'

the picture is also linked to purple urchin though

[dapper imp]

thank you!! I think I've figured it out

[dapper imp]

it's "Purple urchin" in game text

no purple sea urchins exist, the page needs to be moved

[foggy dew]

Happy to help! the megasheet is far from perfect 😅

[dapper imp]

so it really takes universal prefs unless the group or the item are specified per character

Aaliah has those groups specified but not those exception items like canola oil or wheat flour or turnips

so it probably overrides

[foggy dew]

How are you accessing the game files, if I may ask? I'm curious about this myself

[dapper imp]

I use fmodel

[sudden bluff]

Gotcha, thank you ❤️

[dapper imp]

are Pablo's gift preferences for vegetables correct? he should be neutral towards them all

I mean in the megasheet

also for fruit

[ruby sinew]

and that was my 500th edit 😄

[sudden bluff]

*wishes that the hp/ep would be kind enough to follow a formula lol

[dapper imp]

if it's for artisan goods then nothing about them follows the formula

the formula is an estimate at best 😩

[sudden bluff]

I was filling in the pages for the winter sesajen crops and it never. occurred. to me that GARLIC JUICE was a THING

[dapper imp]

I think they run prices using the formula and then,,,, rounded them to five randomly up or down

so whatever rounding I use in the formula it's always off for some items 😢

the ep / hp are a mess overall

[dapper imp]

delicious

how do you even juice it?? imagine how much garlic you need for a single cup

[sudden bluff]

Oh yeah the hp/ep is even weirder because it sometimes makes absolutely batshit jumps or stays still for no discernible reason

Although I really like how the initial prediction for gold/osmium black honey would have killed me twice in a row

[dapper imp]

yeah,,, I've made a formula and all but it's an estimate at best and doesn't account for how randomly they are assigned in game

[dapper imp]

the magical taste of forbidden osmium honey ✨

goes well with garlic juice I'd assume

[sudden bluff]

From the giant garlic cloves that take up as much space as pumpkins

[ruby sinew]

i saw kalinka upload large luwak coffee picture

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Raja's_Coffee_Corner but somehow this didnt update

[merry aspen]

its only the normal one or seeds

in case you need it

[dapper imp]

yeah I forgot about the large one

[spice orchid]

e

[merry aspen]

i managed to extract the images now, but theres some generation errors, if you need something let me know

[ruby sinew]

artifact page missing a few icons and some characters still dont have their portraits etc

[merry aspen]

I can look into fixing it myself tomorrow or the day after, if you just need some images i can probably send them now (there might be exceptions)

[ruby sinew]

missing artifact icons

[merry aspen]

Alright once I nfinished my training I’ll see how to upload to the wiki and if I got all images.

[dapper imp]

the names need to be lowercase tho

[merry aspen]

That’s how they are mention in the files, some don’t even have extensions, that what I meant with errors in my code. I’ll correct the code or fix those by hand. Sooner or later I need them anyway for my project

[dapper imp]

they're lowercase in item list and in game

but the icon files use title case, yeah

they're also not exact sometimes

some have typos. or additional spaces. or slightly different names

[merry aspen]

So I assume you use the display name of the items to generate the icon?

[dapper imp]

yes, we use the in game item name for the file names

from inventory items list

[ruby sinew]

thats why i sent screenshot of png names

[merry aspen]

Ok I have all those in readable data, I’ll map them if there’s a table for that(which I strongly assume)

[dapper imp]

most of the icons should be on the wiki already tho. but I don't know if there's an easy way to check for those

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts

[merry aspen]

Hm if they have a url that’s not uglified I can make a fetch and see if it exists

[dapper imp]

they're all File:Item name.png

[merry aspen]

Should be easy then, maybe slow but doable

[tall cove]

someone broke turnip on the spreadsheet

[sudden bluff]

What happened to it?

[tall cove]

it shows as #div/0! instead of the values

[sudden bluff]

Oh did the regrow get clicked?

If it's ticked just untick it and that should fix it

[tall cove]

that did the trick, ty

[dapper imp]

you're going to work on it, right? if it's too challenging don't bother, it's not like the icons are particularly difficult to get

[merry aspen]

I just mapped them (training ended a moment ago), just checking if theres less errors with names

looking way better

[dapper imp]

yep. those are correct names. a lot of those are on the wiki already tho

[merry aspen]

i will start the url check in a moment

[ruby sinew]

👀 washing machine

[sudden bluff]

*peeking at all the fish

[ruby sinew]

also most of those clothes are not in the game. I wonder if they are removed or just 3d versions not available

[sudden bluff]

Hopefully the latter
I want the batik skirt

[merry aspen]

theres quite a lot in the game files already, with ids, descriptions and stuff. not gonna spoil here haha

[sudden bluff]

Fair, they might be tweaking it
I sate my impatient curiosity with these

[merry aspen]

is there a mass upload function somewhere?

[dapper imp]

yeah just get a script from dev wiki

[merry aspen]

is that a channel? if so i cant see it

[dapper imp]

no, just google fandom dev wiki

you'd need an account to use personal js tho

[untold dove]

i added in the megasheet that ben likes ginger

[ruby sinew]

|| Archer.png
Chub.png
Large yogurt.png
Large goat yogurt.png
Large mayonnaise.png
Large duck mayonnaise.png
Large quail mayonnaise.png
Cheese wheel.png
Goat cheese wheel.png
Fermented cheese.png
Fermented cheese wheel.png
Fermented goat cheese.png
Fermented goat cheese wheel.png ||

also missing

[merry aspen]

meh, ill do if by hand for now haha

[dapper imp]

please make sure to add a licensing template tho

it's preferable to have it on all image files

categorizing the files would also be nice, but not as important as licensing template

[merry aspen]

Which licence should i pick?

[ruby sinew]

US

[merry aspen]

Why this one? AFAIK neither Stairway nor the images come from US, right?

or is it just to be fair use

[dapper imp]

fair use

[merry aspen]

alright, ill add the licence so you dont have to edit the images, sorry.

[dapper imp]

yeah but the wiki platform is iirc

thank you!

[ruby sinew]

im adding the categories dont worry

[untold dove]

some of the info in the wiki and in the megasheet are incomplete with each other, is anyone working on syncing them?

[merry aspen]

What mega sheet? Maybe i can help; also i forgot to add the license here: https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/File:Silver_spoon.png#filehistory
I cant find the edit for that

[ruby sinew]

im handl

handling it alex dont worry

[ruby sinew]

i think we are just setting up the pages for now (most of us), we are not rushing those numbers cos im sure there will be balancing coming very soon

[merry aspen]

Artifacts table looks complete assuming the entries are complete as well

[ruby sinew]

yup! have u seen my spoiler tagged post above?

[merry aspen]

Yes, working on it, is there an overview with those items? its easier for me to click the missing links than adding them all manually :D

[dapper imp]

I've added it. top right corner to edit

[ruby sinew]

i was just writing down missing photos while i was checking pages.

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Fish two here

[dapper imp]

oh wait it was for another spoon, nvm

I see purga added it

[untold dove]

i can try to help complete this if it helps with the wiki? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oqaF61JTUJTFFXzdmhYZYRFpaLjhpNtfbRlEajE-XYA/edit#gid=1608725398

[merry aspen]

I see theres also inconsistency in their files, they named it cotton seed instead of seeds :/ also added the fished, Ill browse through some pages and see what i can find

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Yogurt_machine

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Aging_barrel

[merry aspen]

all done, crops page, too

[ruby sinew]

thanks i just catogarised all XD

[dapper imp]

there's a pages with broken file links automatic category

[merry aspen]

i would have done it myself if i would knew how to do it automatically haha im just to retired to do more coding right now

[dapper imp]

it lists pages that link to nonexistent images

some of those images might've simply been renamed tho

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Foraging there are few missing in ocean section

[merry aspen]

You got a link? Checking Foraging right now

[dapper imp]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_broken_file_links

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Garlic garlic seeds.png

@merry aspen some of them actually typo error

[merry aspen]

I noticed that some items are wonrg in the wiki because they assume a pattern (most common error: seeds vs seed) but the game files actually mixed them up. If I see a (potential) error like this I check the in-game DB and correct the wiki

[dapper imp]

sure, go ahead and rename them to match, I haven't checked them all tbh

[ruby sinew]

Gooseneck barnacle.png missing

@dapper imp cant find category for clothing icons

[dapper imp]

you can make one

[novel edge]

how are pictures gathered? just a screenshot from game, made transparent for the wiki?

[dapper imp]

set it on any icon the way you set existing categories in source mode, save, and then make a category page within category:icons

[dapper imp]

nope they're datamined

[novel edge]

yeah i figured

[ruby sinew]

i think i've done it 😄

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Tool_icons these tool icons look like from alpha or something

i'd love to complete this page https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Tools

anyways gotta sleep now its 3am

[merry aspen]

good night, will sleep soon to, only 1:46 am here :D

[merry aspen]

Alright everyone, im heading to bed for now :) Its really fun to build the wiki, it also helps me gathering data for my app haha good night!

[carmine chasm]

That looks like the complete fossil node list I had screenshotted from alpha for my own reference as I played. I don't know if it's still the case in EA, but in alpha each type of node produced fossils from a specific species.

Again, I don' t know if it's still the case, but for alpha, from L-R in the image above these nodes corresponded to:
||Mammoth
Velociraptor
Plesiosaurus
Brontosaurus
Mosasaurus
Tyrannosaurus
Stegosaurus
Triceratops
Pterodactyl
Gallimimus||

[sudden bluff]

Isn't gooseneck like rafflesia, an ingame placeholder rn

[sudden bluff]

Sorry, which sections in particular? The thing is that the megasheet is heavily used and poked at, so some data may have gotten deleted by accident as well

❤️ is it in the megasheet?

[turbid mason]

Yes

[carmine chasm]

Just found a rove beetle (3 of them, actually) on winter 24th in Y1 between 20:00 and 21:00, so I think the note in the megasheet about it being dependent on odd-numbered days can be removed.

[edgy venture]

Great, I found a bunch of them Y2 on even days, but I wasn't sure if that was enough to disprove the rule

[dapper imp]

okay maybe another more mobile friendly view for list of all gifts would be better? also I'd like to condense it by removing all universals from individual preferences
here: https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Gift_preferences#Rows

any suggestions or objections, folks?

I mean the one in Rows section

[sudden bluff]

Oooo, I really like the Rows section one yeah

except would it be better if we changed 'not' to except, or will that ruin the layout

[dapper imp]

yeah it'll be fine with the rows one

[merry nebula]

just got a bamboo shoot in fall.

[dapper imp]

I changed except to not in the first one in a desperate attempt to save table width space 😅

and then just copied it

[dapper imp]

I added more characters, still looks okay? not too busy?

[ruby sinew]

good morning ✨

[merry aspen]

Hello hello

[sudden bluff]

Hello~

[merry aspen]

Is there any particular category/page that’s missing a lot of data? Might continue mining later

[ruby sinew]

whole critters page is missing

someone needs to make a table

[merry aspen]

Sea critters?

[ruby sinew]

yes

and only 2 of them have pictures https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Critter_icons

[merry aspen]

Alright I’ll see what I can find, won’t be home for at least two hours, will add everything I can find

[ruby sinew]

yea this page https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Critters

i reallized weather column is missing on bugs page,is there weather info on sheet? https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Insects

[sudden bluff]

Erratic, like some are noted some not

[ruby sinew]

i created example pages for each animals pls try to follow that formula if u create new pages. now im gonna go watch the solar eclipse 😛

[merry aspen]

Do we want technical information like bug catching difficulty details?

[weak spoke]

I have finished the indoor furniture so if someone has the pictures, feel free to add them to the wiki!

[merry aspen]

Link? 👀

[weak spoke]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Furniture

[ruby sinew]

yea i saw it but someone has to re-edit all items code

i left a blueprint

{{Icon|Cabin wall clock|75}}
|[[Cabin wall clock]]

like this

[weak spoke]

Why does it need to be edited?

[ruby sinew]

so that image can be automatically updated

[weak spoke]

got it, will do later then

ty!

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Critters missing pictures and https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Fish one here (red snapper)

[merry aspen]

Im currently parsing critters and bugs

ill probably generate the table including prices etc

[ruby sinew]

does it say which depths they can be found?

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Empty_Cabin updated here too

[merry aspen]

havent found information for this, yet. Jusr Rarity like common, super rare etc

[sage geyser]

some fish are on the mega sheet but not the wiki page, is that intentional?

[ruby sinew]

🤷‍♂️ some fish on wiki are not on sheet either

[foggy dew]

I haven't been able to add to the fish page on wiki because I don't know which fish are freshwater vs saltwater yet.

[sage geyser]

that makes sense, since so many are only in trash bins 😂

[carmine chasm]

I've caught fish whose descriptions say saltwater/ocean in rivers, so there might be some errors in the game's catch table currently!

[sage geyser]

yeah definitely, i've caught ones that say they like sunny weather in the rain and stuff too

[merry aspen]

added all i got to critters, will take a look at other options. If you're still looking for fish data I already saw a file for them, I can dump information if you want

[foggy dew]

Yes please

[merry aspen]

including difficulty and stuff or just prices/locations etc

Difficulty-Data:

[foggy dew]

I think locations is first priority

[merry aspen]

will be something similar to this - just more readable

[foggy dew]

Yes, perfect!

[ruby sinew]

where iss oceanforest??

estuary?

[foggy dew]

Estuary (if in game) may be here?

[merry aspen]

keep in mind, those are internal names which can be a) misleading b) not implementing c) simply false

[foggy dew]

it's the only mouth of a river I see in the map

[carmine chasm]

That'd be my guess. I've definitely caught both "ocean" and "river" fish right around that sacred tree.

Oceanforest may be somewhere we don't have access to yet?

[ruby sinew]

welp we have a new name for "south of farm" 😄

[foggy dew]

If there's underwater fishing in the merfolk kingdom? All speculation at this point lol

[ruby sinew]

i didnt unlock giants village, can u fish there?

maybe thats oceanforest

[carmine chasm]

It would make sense in terms of location, but I don't think it's unlockable yet? Unless maybe that's for one of the later altars.

[merry aspen]

👀

[ruby sinew]

3 of 4 altar rewards revealed so far and its not one of them

[carmine chasm]

It would make more sense to me, story-wise, if that unlocked via freeing the giants, anyway, which it's been hinted is by fighting the not-yet-available bosses in the mines.

[merry aspen]

While Im generating fish-data, would it make sense to maybe reformat the table? Currently there's one column for each Season, maybe make one listing them like Spring, Fall or Any if they're always possible, or is it intentional for sorting reasons for example?

[ruby sinew]

which table

[carmine chasm]

For the one on the wiki, I'd say yes, listing seasons in one column makes more sense than the separate columns for each -- horizontal space is at a premium.

My only ask on that would be to list each season (aside from "all"), so "spring, summer, fall" rather than "spring through fall"

[merry aspen]

I would do a check like (if everythings checked) then All else List seperated by comma

[merry aspen]

Fish

[carmine chasm]

Actually, come to think of it, I think "Any" would be better than "All" for year-round fish.

Otherwise searching for "all" gets a lot of false hits for "fall"

[ruby sinew]

yea i just wanna simlify that table. we are doing huge info dump on individual pages

[merry aspen]

Ill show a picture in a second with formatted Data

[ruby sinew]

same goes for insects page

[carmine chasm]

I think the main page probably just needs base price, too; the different quality prices could be just on each individual fish's page.

That would save some vertical space.

[merry aspen]

thats one entry for a fish and all data i currently have, the last entry 'item' is the generic item containing prices, icon etc. What columns do you want, and do you want to format spawnLocations in other cases (like space before capital letter)

its not 100% clear if a fish is salt or freshwater, i could do something like ocean true then salt, else fresh water ?

[foggy dew]

Is freshwater vs saltwater still important then?

I know that's how the fish were marketed in kickstarter, but if they have little bearing on the game, should we just have one table?

[merry aspen]

not for me, just saw your table and guessed theres a reason for the split

[carmine chasm]

I'm not sure it makes sense to have separate tables for freshwater and saltwater, since it looks like there's some uncertainty over whether that's a hard division or not. It might be better just to list the spawn locations.

[merry aspen]

So
Image|Name|Price (base or all?)|Location|Time|Weather|Season

?

Maybe rarity?

[carmine chasm]

I'd say base price only, to save space, and put season before time. Rarity also might be good to have.

[ruby sinew]

image isnt important it takes too much space. we can put it like that

[carmine chasm]

That's a good point, image would be more important for insects since you can see them before you catch them. Fish silhouettes don't show that sort of detail.

[ruby sinew]

{{i|Earth geode}} thats the code

[merry aspen]

Alright, give me a few minutes to generate a template

[merry aspen]

ok, killed the wiki table a bit but i can fix that, heres the first version of my generated code:

TODO add gold icon, fix header (lol) and maybe add spaces in location names, anything else?

[foggy dew]

Looks good. Do the files specify times for Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Night?

[merry aspen]

i think i saw them somewhere but have to look again, their data structure is not always intuitive :D

[ruby sinew]

that looks lot more confusing we cant put code-like names to wiki :/

[merry aspen]

Maybe i can look for a mapping

[ruby sinew]

for mine things u can name like Cavern (earth shaft)

wind shaft etc

cos its their ingame name

lake temple is correct

ricefield and pond is basically our farm

[merry aspen]

I can manually overwrite those values but i would prefer to not do that, if i cant find a mapping table to readable names i might fall back to this solution. But for now I have to go, Ill let the Fish page unedited

[dapper imp]

there's a location table but I don't think it lists stuff like coordinates

but yeah I agree I don't want those internal names on the wiki

[merry aspen]

do you remember the path in fmodel?

[dapper imp]

nope

[dapper imp]

hmm can't find it, so I might be misremembering

at least there's catch chances but they're set by depth

[ruby sinew]

yea we need those for critters

[dapper imp]

depth of what tho

no it's for fish

[foggy dew]

probably cast length

[dapper imp]

how far does it go in game?

[ruby sinew]

1-3

[dapper imp]

it's 1-6 and 0

hmmm

[turbid mason]

Pond is your farm, rice field is next to Kira's house though

[pulsar elk]

it was 1-6 in alpha, when we had more skills

Bait is universally neutral gift

[dapper imp]

okay that makes sense

so the catch chances for fish rarity and size seem to depend on cast length entirely

but the selection of fish of certain rarity and size varies by location

I think we'd need to add the size to fish table

[foggy dew]

I'm not sure I understand. Are some fish only available at low depths, while some only available at higher depths?

[dapper imp]

can we increase the cast length rn to have it more than 2?

[dapper imp]

it's more like the longer and deeper you cast, the higher the chances of rare and bigger fish

not rarer and bigger as in quality, but as in internal variables assigned to each fish

[ashen hinge]

Hey @dapper imp , I think you're the one who made the interactive map on the wiki right? I was looking at it just now and noticed the blacksmith icon is over the hillside manor instead of the Sanchez Bro's shop.

[dapper imp]

thanks, I'll take a look

[foggy dew]

I can cast up to 3

[dapper imp]

hmm it shows normally for me, is it fandom being wonky again 😑

[dapper imp]

oh yeah is it fishing skill level related?

[foggy dew]

I have skill level 0 right now

[dapper imp]

or a better rod?

I don't see anything in the rod config about cast length

[foggy dew]

Using basic fishing pole

[dapper imp]

oh is that the default rn?

I've only fished like. three times in the game

[foggy dew]

Yeah, that was given to me by Sunny as the default

[ashen hinge]

Oh that's so strange, must be the fandom being wonky indeed. Nevermind me then lol.

[foggy dew]

But I don't have a way to cast at "0" depth, so could it be offset by 1?

[dapper imp]

ohh are you on mobile? it looks like it shows you a pretty old cached version!

the furniture store and socket have different icons in the current one

idk if there's a way to clear the browser's cache on mobile, let me try purging it for this page and see if it changes anything for you

[ashen hinge]

nope. I'm on my laptop. I did click the "Map" link from "locations" on the wiki, maybe it goes to an old version of it?

[dapper imp]

got it, let me try purging that page

now it shows me nothing 😭

yeah it shows an even more outdated version now??

how the hell is it even possible

yet when I click edit, it shows the most recent map 🥴

what the hell, fandom

okay I'm going to report it as a bug

don't know what to do about it

[ashen hinge]

hopefully it gets sorted out soon.; you've put too much work into this for it not to look right.

[dapper imp]

yeah 😭 I've submitted a report, hopefully they'll be able to do something about it, rn part of the markers has simply disappeared, but they're visible in edit mode

hmm it looks like only those with custom images are bugged

ugh!

oh got a reply, they say it's a known issue and the fix's coming out tomorrow. phew

hmm maybe I'll switch them to default icons for now and roll it back tomorrow

okay it should show everything at the right places now. but with default icons 🫤

okay I'm replacing the list of all gifts on friendship page with a new separate Gift preferences page I've made if noone has any objections

[foggy dew]

Is there some other information that will still live on the friendship page?

[dapper imp]

the mechanic overview

the explanation of universal gifts

possibly chatting + gifting values once we figure them out

[foggy dew]

Okay, yeah that sounds good to me.

[dapper imp]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Gift_preferences
here's the list I want to have

once I add everyone of course

[foggy dew]

that looks great!

Would these be able to be duplicated on the individual NPC pages do you think?

[dapper imp]

they already are. or do you mean in the same format?

[foggy dew]

Either in the same format or referencing this page to avoid multiple pages for edits.

[dapper imp]

I don't think it would be possible to transclude all that because of the mediawiki limits on include side and template argument size

there is, after all, a lot of characters you can gift stuff to

might be possible with lua modules but I can't write that

[foggy dew]

Fair enough

[dapper imp]

the thing with include size limits is once you hit it, the page simply don't shows templates after the point you hit it

I'll think about it tho, maybe there's a relatively inexpensive way if I tweak some templates

[foggy dew]

I'm just throwing it out there as this game will inevitably add a lot more items

[dapper imp]

I mean. we've hit the issue in mtas wiki because there's a lot of giftable items

had to split gift lists

and I'd prefer to keep the entire list on one page if we're doing one at all

[sudden bluff]

Not necessarily 'only' but yeah they said before that casting length affects the type of fish you get
Mind you, that's probably why they're tweaking fish spawn because it sure as heck isn't affecting chances right now XD

[dapper imp]

it seems to only affect the chances based on their tables tbh

[sudden bluff]

Also uh where exactly is the rice field, I'm getting increasingly confused because the ingame map doesn't list a rice field

[dapper imp]

I don't see depth assigned to individual fish

[foggy dew]

The only rice field I know of is below Kira's house.

It's small and terraced out, but it is fishable.

[sudden bluff]

Ohhhhhh THAT'S the rice field
Thank you

[patent oak]

how do i make flour?

also how do i get the frying pan?

i have 3,000 money but it says i cant afford it

[sudden bluff]

The prices for the items are inaccurate

I think it actually costs more than 3000

Ah yeah
it's 4k

[nova flume]

Not currently, as far as I can see. The Fishing Mastery unlocks at the moment are for doubling your catch and reducing the fish's resistance, and the Improved Rod resists breaking a bit more, I think? It's the same three-piece bar regardless.

[dapper imp]

do you still cast the line properly in the first segment? or does it bounce back

I really need to play the game properly, huh. but I still haven't completed the game I'm currently playing so I'd rather bug this chat with obvious questions

[nova flume]

You can, but you have to be very close to or standing in the water. It's too short a cast to work from, like, bridges or raised banks.

[dapper imp]

and you can still catch fish, right?

[nova flume]

Mmhm. Just caught a clownfish on a first bar cast.

[edgy venture]

Hey, can anybody confirm that the gator gar is catchable outside of spring? I originally added it to the spreadsheet, but the seasons have since been updated (and I'm not sure it's accurate)

[dapper imp]

it's not, it's spring only

and only second half of spring it looks like

[edgy venture]

Is that from the game files?

Well, either way, worth changing it back to spring only

[dapper imp]

yeah

it has a specific date range set

[sudden bluff]

Can I get a check on the clownfish too? I saw many people complaining they couldn't catch it in Spring

[pulsar elk]

Yeah, there seems to be no clownfish in spring

[sudden bluff]

Thanks, edited wiki page to reflect that

[dapper imp]

is kelp no longer giftable?

hmm maybe because the gift category on them is "Kelp" and only "Kelps" are giftable 🥴

[merry nebula]

did someone catch a rove beetle on an even day? I see the instructions for catching it changed.

[turbid mason]

I finished the durian line! 🥰

[merry aspen]

Good morning

[novel edge]

i love dippa but they piss me off, i can never find them -_-

no wonder their column is mostly empty lol

[merry nebula]

What if it was mapped to images instead? Name the image with the code name and have the image be just a map of that particular kind of water's locations?

Finding a nice word for "estuary" isn't really going to be helpful for players trying to figure out where exactly they have to stand to catch the fish, and genericizing ocean for the lighthouse, tavern and possibly estuaries isn't going to help them either.

[merry aspen]

well, the location in image form would be on the detail page of the location, currently is about the names, instead of CavernMinesEarth it should be Mines earth shaft or osmething similar, I havent found a readable mapping in the files

[merry nebula]

Ah. I follow. I'm not sure you're going to find that data. That's internal tags that players are never supposed to see. I can't imagine they'd make a translation table for it.

Or do you mean a readable map of "these tiles are defined as 'cavernMinesEarth'?"

[dapper imp]

there's no easily available table for that. it might be buried in the details for each location and it's not the easiest to find

we can assume where the locations are based on their internal names and test them in game. or something like that 🤷‍♀️

they'd really need to be overwritten with more natural names for wiki use

also, the fish list would need size

and some fish have date ranges set instead of straight up seasons. it can be put into the season column tho

[merry aspen]

Well, since I havent cared about details in game or read much in the wiki yet, i dont know what to name them, i can get a list of all options for you to map if you want?

[dapper imp]

also, what exactly are those times? when does the morning end or the evening begin? I don't remember seeing them expanded anywhere but then again I haven't looked for them yet

[merry aspen]

Also i found how they map information to their translatation table, i found the key for earth shaft etc but not how to map enums (which locations for fish are)

[dapper imp]

you can drop the full table in a sandbox actually. make one in mainspace or in your userspace

[merry aspen]

i have all ranges of fish on hand, i can print it as well, maybe instead of Season?

[merry aspen]

Care to explain how? Im fairly new to wikis

[dapper imp]

some of them are full season so putting date ranges would be redundant

they're only relevant for those that aren't available for the whole season

[dapper imp]

make a page titled sandbox for mainspace. or User:Your username/sandbox

either is fine if you clean it up later

you can make a test table there and then move it to main article once you're satisfied with it

[merry aspen]

[
'StreamForest', 'Waterfall',
'Estuary', 'OceanLookout',
'OceanForest', 'CaveMiningAir',
'RiverFarm', 'RiverTown',
'LakeTemple', 'RiceField',
'Pond', 'RiverForest',
'Mangrove', 'CaveEntrance',
'CaveMiningWater', 'CaveMiningEarth',
'CaveMiningFire', 'OceanDock',
'OceanBeach'
]

that all fish locations with internal names

[dapper imp]

also maybe it'll make sense to change the order of the columns a bit if the location is so wide for everything

[dapper imp]

yeah I've seen those, most of them make sense. kind of

you can guess where they are at least

it'd be interesting to see if there's fish unique to one location

[merry aspen]

i can check that if i check for the length of the list, also only legendary fish have time ranges

maybe extract them from list and make a second one?

[dapper imp]

you mean date ranges? are they catchable repeatably or only once?

[merry aspen]

let me see

[dapper imp]

if it's the latter, a separate list would make sense

if they're not unique then I'd say leave them in the full list

[dapper imp]

probably not unique

[merry aspen]

not sure what exactly valid means in this context

[dapper imp]

yeah they should stay in the full list

[merry aspen]

Well, all i need now is an overwrite for locations

[dapper imp]

are those times expanded in any tables anywhere?

times of day

[merry aspen]

I remember seeing something with times, not sure exactly

you mean like morning 6:00-12:00 for exmaple?

or do you mean the fish date ranges

[dapper imp]

this

[merry aspen]

ill look it up

[dapper imp]

it doesn't have to be in the fish table but it has to be put somewhere

[merry aspen]

it is, i remember it

just dont know where

[signal dragon]

Hello! Idk if this helps, but I found a Frogfish, Fall, Night time (19:40), raining, by the Chicken Boat.

[dapper imp]

I mean on the wiki

I'll look it up tomorrow if you find nothing, it's already pretty late for me

[ruby sinew]

@dapper imp hi blackmarket and blacksmith is missing on shops section on main page

[dapper imp]

you can add them yourself, it's not protected yet

or I'll add them in the morning

[ruby sinew]

i tried but couldnt find it inside source editing

😱 what

[ruby sinew]

oooh i found it sorry

[pulsar tapir]

Idk if this is relevant but Jenna from Spoils of the Land / Back to Nature is Luke’s cousin, she mentions it in the episode talking about coconuts towards the end of summer

[ruby sinew]

i set up individual pages for every fish and bugs that i know. Only info missing on these pages are: location/time/weather/price/season/gift preferences

ill try to add one by one later on...

also we are missing picture of this fish on wiki.

[ruby sinew]

oooh nice adding that to wiki

can u tell me ur coral sites cleared/offerings completed and donations in total

[alpine crane]

Hey all, have any of the last names been logged for charas ? at first I thought maybe the devs didn't define any last names but I just had Noah mention Luke's family name

[carmine chasm]

Raphael and Pablo Sanchez are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

I am very curious to find out what seed splicing will be!

[crystal lantern]

got this mail who is J. Doe ?

[ruby sinew]

😱

[nova flume]

Jane/John Doe is a placeholder for someone who's name isn't known. So could be a name/character not added yet?

Or just flavor for our character's background.

[sudden bluff]

I think it's a letter series?
I got one from a Lance (initial), but he wasn't a senior manager, and I kind of like the idea of the Senior Manager being just a faceless 'j. doe'

[ruby sinew]

whats the year/season

[crystal lantern]

Winter year 3

[ruby sinew]

it might be like " granpa" in stardew. He says he is coming so maybe he appears at the begging of year 4

granpa values ur progression and awards u based on that

might be similar mechanic

[sudden bluff]

ooo, is the threatening one in Y2? I only got the Y1 Winter one

[untold dove]

god that's scary. i know it's fake but i hate seeing that in my relaxing farming game lol

[sudden bluff]

"and I am the entire economy of a small island so I'll have no choice but to buy over the company"
but seriously, glad the guy changes his mind XD

[dapper imp]

hmm I wonder if it makes sense to add random icons to that mainage list

I've remade it to look slightly better overall

[copper robin]

Hey, i've notice there are a couple of events in Luke's wiki about his heart events finding Taco that aren't implemented in the game yet.

[dapper imp]

they're listed as enabled to should be triggerable. theoretically

hmm okay they're missing one trigger event

I'll comment them out then

the one where he comes to the farm should be triggerable tho

hmmmm

hmm no the other two should theoretically trigger if you see them in order

ehh I'll comment them out anyway if they aren't available in game

[sturdy kayak]

Hello! Im planning to catch the atlas moth while im in Winter. Im lookingat the spreadsheet, where exactly is the Ginseng Area?

[kind tundra]

Its the forest that's left of your farm

I'm making the assumption that they mean the Ginseng Area means the area in which you can find ginseng

[sudden bluff]

Yep it is
The area has no official name on the map yet, because it's still greyed out if you check the map

But it's distinct from the actual "Forest" area in terms of stuff that spawns

[dapper imp]

okay folks, anyone up to figuring out how to describe the fishing locations?

[sudden bluff]

What are they?

[dapper imp]

"RiceField"
"Pond"
"RiverFarm"
"RiverForest"
"RiverTown"
"StreamForest"
"Waterfall"
"Estuary"
"OceanDock"
"OceanBeach"
"OceanLookout"
"OceanForest"
"Mangrove"
"CaveEntrance"
"CaveMiningEarth"
"CaveMiningAir"
"CaveMiningFire"
"CaveMiningWater"
"LakeTemple"

Lake temple is clear, I also know where the rice field is

[sudden bluff]

Cave Mining is a bit borked right now, the Water mine can be fished in but not the Earth one

[copper robin]

Yeah, that one is the only one catalogued as 2 heart event that is working, the one in the vineyard and the one in the beach aren't working

[dapper imp]

got it. I've commented them out, they're both enabled but there might be some other trigger I don't see at a glance

[sudden bluff]

I think I know where the OceanForest is, I pulled a mackerel when fishing near the Giant area, but all the way to the south, I'll try again there hang on

[untold dove]

hi i just wanna thank everybody here for taking the time to work on the wiki for the rest of us ❤️ okay carry on

[dapper imp]

estuary is probably north of lighthouse where that tree is

i wonder where ocean dock is, with Zarah's boat?

[merry aspen]

I see you're tackling the naming problem, when you finalize the list please let me know, ill integrate the result in the generaotr

[dapper imp]

honestly. you can just drop the table somewhere as it is, I'd like to work on it today tbh

and it's probably going to be nighttime for you

[merry aspen]

What do you mean haha, if i have a list like

CaveMiningWater => Mine (water shaft)
....

etc i can automate it

[dapper imp]

I mean you can generate the table with names as they are now

[merry aspen]

havent done much (data)mining today because is started owkring on my coral island guide

[dapper imp]

and drop it into, say, a sandbox

[merry aspen]

ah i see, yes i can do that

[dapper imp]

those names are easy to find and replace

[sudden bluff]

this part next to your farm is ocean, but I'm not sure it counts as OceanForest - but that was my first thought
once you move up to the river it becomes freshwater

[dapper imp]

is it right on the left?

of the farm

[sudden bluff]

Yep, that's the spot

I think anywhere with roots might be saltwater

[dapper imp]

yeah makes sense

[copper robin]

Thank you very much Kalinka, if you find the trigger please let me know. Luke is my favourite character❤️

[merry aspen]

i think ocean dock has to be the boat

[dapper imp]

yeah I think it's where the tavern and Zarah's boat is

but what's the difference between river parts

and that "StreamForest"

is that this smaller river in woodlands

where's Black phantom ghost fish caught?

and sockeye

and regular salmon

the wiki's empty for those

[sudden bluff]

Black phantom ghostfish ingame right now can only be dug up from trash

It's possible it might be a mine fish in a specific mine because we can't fish in the Earth mines

same for salmon, they get received as gifts

[dapper imp]

hmm it's enable tho

"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::RiverFarm",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::RiverTown",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::StreamForest",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::CaveMiningFire"
all day, Spring only; sunny or windy

[sudden bluff]

Hmmm, because people have been trying to fish in the mines and the rod keeps bouncing back

Fire isn't available

[dapper imp]

it's in the river tho

maybe it's in this stream?

medium size, common rarity

hmmmmm

[sudden bluff]

that's odd, I don't think anyone's actually caught it

[dapper imp]

maybe it's those locations what aren't assigned

sockeye is also enabled
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::StreamForest",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::Waterfall",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::Estuary",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::OceanLookout",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::LakeTemple"
all day, sunny or windy, winter, rare medium

and there's two regular salmons actually, both enabled
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::StreamForest",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::Waterfall",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::Estuary",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::OceanLookout",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::OceanForest",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::CaveMiningAir"
spring winter all weather, Uncommon medium
and fall one
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::RiverFarm",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::RiverForest",
"EC_FishSpawnLocationEnum::RiverTown"
also uncommon medium

[sudden bluff]

that's legit odd, those locations are definitely at least partly accessible
I'm guessing the waterfall area is where ben's caravan is

OR it's the part blocked off by lotuses

but i would assume it's the area where ben's caravan is instead

a possibility is the cast length issue as well...

[dapper imp]

maybe they're just. idk, not assigned to any area in game

[dapper imp]

no fish is assigned to a specific cast length

at least I don't remember seeing these numbers

[merry aspen]

As long as we are uncertain if something is currently obtainable, will we still add them to the wiki or just "confirmed" data?

[dapper imp]

I'm not against it

[merry aspen]

maybe a small disclaimer like "data is mined, might be unavailable etc"

[sudden bluff]

If you do add it I think we might need to put something saying 'not currently obtainable'

[dapper imp]

as if folks read those 🙃

[ruby sinew]

can u just compare the data with what players gathered? if they are correct, then its a bug

[merry aspen]

:D but at least you can route them back to wiki

[ruby sinew]

is there a minimum fishing level requirement for some fish? stardew had same system u couldnt catch legendary fish etc before getting to fishing level 9

[dapper imp]

this one seems to be river not the stream

and I'm not getting any bites at Ben's

so maybe this forest stream isn't mapped yet

[sudden bluff]

I got bites at Ben's

[dapper imp]

doesn't appear to be one

[sudden bluff]

all tilapia and crayfish

[ruby sinew]

maybe they changed the map but kept old locations in game files?

[dapper imp]

I can't easily find where they're mapped unfortunately

[merry aspen]

anything "world location"-depending is really hard to find, yeah :/

[sudden bluff]

there's this stream which flows west from the waterfall area, but you can't fish in it yet

so if this is the stream in question

I'm not very clear on where stuff is, I'm taking shots as suggestions to see if they match up with what you guys find

[dapper imp]

there's also this mangrove

maybe those are future areas

[ruby sinew]

we just take time weather season info for now then

[merry aspen]

Want to get rid of location completely?

[ruby sinew]

no i meant at least we can rely on all data except location

are u guys gonna upload more pics today

[merry aspen]

I can if you gather me a list, currently developing the app still

[ruby sinew]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Fish 2 fish here

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/Furniture many furniture here

[turbid mason]

Where is Angelfish listed as found? Is the area called Waterfall?

If Pond says Mudskipper that'd be the little ponds on your farm

RiverFarm is probably the river directly to the east, in Garden Lane

[merry aspen]

https://coralisland.fandom.com/wiki/User:KoenigDerLuegner/sandbox generated fish infos

[ruby sinew]

oh boy more missing fish 😄

[turbid mason]

Yeah, pretty sure the Waterfall is that pond outside the mine next to Ben's

[merry aspen]

im adding those right now, saw them already here :D

[sudden bluff]

Oh, if OceanBeach has frogfish then the beach area def extends to include the diving pier

also man those fish definitely need some price adjustment upwards for legendaries

[turbid mason]

Ah, an estuary is where the river meets the sea

[merry aspen]

fish images were upload, furniture is ... quite alot :D

[turbid mason]

Some of those are definitely not implemented; Crab are supposed to be uncommon and even common in Fall, according to Zarah, but I haven't caught a single one

Weird that a fish that only spawns in Summer still lists "Blizzard" as an available weather XD

[merry aspen]

well, thats what happens when you datamine haha youll see everything

[sudden bluff]

I just went into Water mines to check and you can't even fish there rn XD

The rod bounces

[sudden bluff]

the only location they spawn for me is in trash

[dapper imp]

hmmm interesting

it appears like most catchable fish are small?

[sudden bluff]

I think the spawn rates are very messed up as well

[turbid mason]

Yeah, I've caught several Mandarin

[merry aspen]

shark is gigantic

[dapper imp]

yeah or gigantic for legendaries

[sudden bluff]

like sardine is 'common'
but every time i fish that area ... i get mackerel

[dapper imp]

maybe they're spawn rates aren't working as intended 🤔

[sudden bluff]

it's like all the common fish got mackerel'd

[merry aspen]

Should i add size to the table?

[dapper imp]

yes

size seems to be important for spawning

[sudden bluff]

wait, someone caught a giant sea bass and that one is ocean forest

[merry aspen]

Aye, give me a second, ill also fix SuperRare missing a space

[turbid mason]

Yes, so Ocean Forest is definitely that area to the west of your farm

[sudden bluff]

Yep

[dapper imp]

yeah the medium fish appear not to be spawning entirely

not sure if they're bugged or it's intentional

or they're just super rare with the way how the catch chances are calculated 😬

yeah most medium fish aren't even listed in our table

[merry aspen]

size added, rarity fixed

[dapper imp]

large too

[ruby sinew]

can we add rarity to infobox please

im already working on infoboxes

[dapper imp]

I wonder how their catch chances are calculated

the vast majority of fish ever caught is small

[ruby sinew]

oh i found how to edit

[cerulean flare]

confirming this, got Jellyfish at 18:50, lighthouse pier, weather Sun + clouds, Spring. Fish is rare, I'd say 1 of 10 catches, subjectively. Not much harder than everywere's Mackarel, tbh 🙂 starter rod was sufficient

[dapper imp]

and medium fish that are supposedly common are pretty rare

[dapper imp]

I've just added a few parameters there

[ruby sinew]

oh ok

[turbid mason]

I agree it's very consistent that Medium and Large fish cannot be caught right now

[dapper imp]

like squid is supposedly common, but has anybody ever caught one?

[novel edge]

oh FUDGE

idk how i did it but i accidentally grabbed ahold of the "clinic" tab

[sudden bluff]

@ruby sinew i'll work on some of them too to speed it up

[dapper imp]

or parrotfish

[novel edge]

i panic closed the tab but i dont know if it moved it or not

[dapper imp]

has anyone even seen it in game?

yet it's supposedly a common medium fish

or this salmon

[turbid mason]

I got a salmon.... in the mail

[sudden bluff]

@novel edge don't worry about it, the clinic tab was mostly empty and tabs can be easily rearranged
as long as the data isn't lost

[ruby sinew]

u cant take freshwater

[dapper imp]

it's supposed to be almost everywhere

but it's uncatchable?

[sudden bluff]

oh okay

i'll do saltwater?

sorry i did the rainbowfish because it was RIGHT THERE

[novel edge]

phew ok tysm i got worried for a sec

[dapper imp]

I think we need to ditch the distinction altogether

[ruby sinew]

😂 no worries

[dapper imp]

the fresh/salt water one

there's no reliable parameter for that in game data and some fish are both

[sudden bluff]

What's uh, 'difficulty'

[dapper imp]

how fast it snaps the line and how much exp it gives probably

ignore it for now

[sudden bluff]

Gotcha

[ruby sinew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/417121779589447681/740306912695812180/catjam.gif

its all coming together

[dapper imp]

I wonder if medium to large fish are uncatchable on purpose or are simply bugged

it's weird to have small fish and those gigantic legendaries but notthing in between

[ruby sinew]

so are we replacing the tables

[dapper imp]

not yet I guess

[sudden bluff]

Possible they're tweaking the medium/large ones

[dapper imp]

they're all set as enabled tho

[sudden bluff]

The cave fishing is also disabled for now, which makes me sad ;;

[ruby sinew]

or we need a better rod thats not in the game

[dapper imp]

hopefully they'll be here in the next update

[merry aspen]

is it possible to mass-set a license?

I found a mass upload in fandom but i cant set license there :/

[dapper imp]

nothing indicates the rod quality affects the fish that bites

[dapper imp]

get another, the one I use allows that

there's several of them

[ruby sinew]

alex can u please add "furniture icon" as category if u mass upload cos im categorising after u 😭

[sudden bluff]

... i like how clownfish is 'found on warm Spring nights', apparently in Summer, and also can be caught in... blizzards

Oh, and you can't catch it at night.

[ruby sinew]

game devs trollin

[turbid mason]

Summer day = warm Spring night temps? XD

[sudden bluff]

especially if there's a summer blizzard apparently XD

@ruby sinew are we putting in locations?

also the description of damselfish i think is wrong ... i pulled it from the sheet but i'm pretty sure now it's the firefish one

yep it's the firefish one
er for the locations i'll split the difference atm, I'll put in locations that are definitely currently accessible (like beach/lookout) and verified, but I'm not going to put in anything we can't be sure about (like mangroves)

[sudden bluff]

okay cleared monkfish @_@ i'm taking a break

[ruby sinew]

🎉 gg

im focused on icons atm

[merry aspen]

i feel this

[ruby sinew]

😂 and there will be outdoors

[dapper imp]

I'm too upset about that medium and large fish rn to work on fish 🫠but it looks like you have it mostly covered, great job

I want to add the confirmed fishing locations to that interactive map though

also, has anyone been collecting trashcan locations? I want to add those as well for. reasons

[sudden bluff]

I have temp listed ocean dock locations as Zarah's boat

As everyone in the discord has been calling it that lol

[dapper imp]

the reason is free trash

[merry aspen]

I mean, i would prefer to generate tho ...

[dapper imp]

we can leave it as a dock because the area's large than that

[sudden bluff]

Okay I'll... go back and change it later

[dapper imp]

and maybe explain what the areas are on the fishing page with mechanic overview

don't worry, I can mass edit it later

or you can try mass editing tools yourself if you're curious 🙃

[sudden bluff]

Yeah my intention was to change it later once it was more clearly established anyway xD so I would have had to change it

[dapper imp]

so I'd say leave it as it is rn

the wiki's a wip

a wiki is always a wip 😭

[sudden bluff]

Especially for an EA game ;_;
BUT yknow I actually felt better once I saw medium and large fish weren't spawning

It was like, THE MACKEREL INVASION HAS BEEN EXPLAINED.

[dapper imp]

yeah I can imagine it's validating