💖┃vtubing

[pearl sail]

what app is that? i could use that myself tbh

[raven nymph]

I use VTube Studio for tracking, and Live2D for rigging

[pearl sail]

thanks for the info

[raven nymph]

np!

[pearl sail]

now all i have to do is firgure it all out, lol, hope you day is well btw

[raven nymph]

oh thanks! you too!

[pearl sail]

^_^

[raven nymph]

I had a good day, I drew stuff, and I decorated my christmas tree :3

[pearl sail]

nice, idk how to draw but i love looking at people's art work

[raven nymph]

ah! I drew my own model hehe

[pearl sail]

lucky, i would ask if you could make me one, lol idk anything about stuff like that lol

[raven nymph]

I do it for free! but it all depends what you want and all, I have some limitations on what I can do

[pearl sail]

thats far, im not looking for anything crazy, i have some references that i have, i was using them bc all i could do was be a png tuber, i had some help with some friends who made it for me, but then i found a website but forgot the name, but now i really want to start vtubing, their basic designs and thats what i like, basic, i can dm you the pngs i have

[raven nymph]

sure! go ahead!

[pearl sail]

i sent you the pngs i had, what do you think?

[raven nymph]

yeah I saw, I replied in dms

[true cargo]

^^

[golden wolf]

Saw this when I was at the arcade yesterday. Wish I got the chance to get some of the drinks when these were still out.

[raven nymph]

SLAY

I would've tried the gura one even though I don't like that kinda drink

actually, does that just say it's sprite with whipped cream and flavoured colouring?

I'd actually like that!

[golden wolf]

Would have started with Fuwa, Moco, Irys, Ina, and then Gura

[deft cloak]

That’s funny lol

[raven nymph]

the thing is I don't like coca cola, and I don't think I'd enjoy strawberry lemonade, so I'd only be able to try Fuwa's, Moco's, and Gura's

and $10 per drink is horrible

so I'm only gonna do one

and I might as well go for my oshi :3

I would love the Gura coaster tho tbh

I use a coaster on my nightstand and it'd be PERFECT to replace it :3

[golden wolf]

The Powerade might have been tasty and maybe would have enjoyed the strawberry cream soda 1.

[raven nymph]

yeah lol

[timber mesa]

hello

I am new here.

[vernal pulsar]

insane

[raven nymph]

pure insanity :3

[vernal pulsar]

frfr

[opaque cape]

"We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad..."
"How do you know that I am mad?"
"You must be, or you wouldn't be here."

[steady rover]

This is my most common vtuber interaction

[raven nymph]

RELATABLE :D

[deft cloak]

Lmao

[golden wolf]

so was checking the VShojo merch website and no Melody merch also no blcak friday deals on there what so ever. Again I'm glad I made my custom Melody shirt.

[atomic ridge]

i got the hair and hoodie working! but now i feel like the hoodie looks a bit weird

[marble marsh]

hey

spoomkee

can u help me? no one helps me

btw good character

[atomic ridge]

this really isn't the place to ask

and thanks!

[marble marsh]

i know sorry :C

[raven nymph]

might be because it's completely flat and textureless?

[atomic ridge]

it has them, i think it's the lighting but the shape seems weird too

looks fine in vr but like this it's a bit eh i'll try and fix it through blendshapes if i can

[zealous mortar]

Might just be the lightning

You can see the texture well in vr

[atomic ridge]

i cant even change the lighting otherwise it's really dark i hope some cute clothes are made soon

couldnt fix anything with blendshapes either, it feels too wide it's annoying me

[golden wolf]

can I mention that Mori and Raora are the Puss in Boots: The Last Wish duo. Mori: Death and Raora:Puss in Boots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjGHHjOc_J0

[raven nymph]

so real

[plain nova]

What is V-Tubing?

[raven nymph]

using a virtual avatar in place of your face that is built to follow your irl facial movements
it's an animated alternative to using a png avatar :3

[plain nova]

Thi is intresting

[raven nymph]

mhm!

[cursive gorge]

Mainly for folks that don't wanna show their actual face on camera for privacy sake or just wanna stream as a character

[raven nymph]

my reason is the first one :3

[plain nova]

I am guessing you need special software to do that

[raven nymph]

to make a model you need paid software but to use a VTuber model the software I'm using is free!

Vtube Studio is what I use, it's free on steam with optional purchases that enhance your experience

[cursive gorge]

Tho, you do need to either make a model or commission one

[raven nymph]

mhm!

[atomic ridge]

you can use vroid to make a free 3d one and use vseeface or vnyan for tracking (both free), it's how i started out!

i mean i still use a 3d one but it wasnt free

[raven nymph]

there are also some free 2D models available to get started with!

[hollow scroll]

Vtube studio only works for 2d

[raven nymph]

yeah but there's other software for 3D

[hollow scroll]

But the phone app is needed

[raven nymph]

not needed

[cursive gorge]

Honestly up to you whether you want 2D or 3D

[hollow scroll]

Well

[raven nymph]

you can use VTube Studio without a phone

[hollow scroll]

It’s the only app that does good tracking

[raven nymph]

it just doesn't look good

[hollow scroll]

I’m on about phone tracking

[cursive gorge]

I just have a PNGTuber I like hardly ever use with the help of PNGTuber+

[atomic ridge]

yeah phone gives better tracking, but that's pretty limited to iphone X and above

[hollow scroll]

Which honestly is just the only way that goes good

[raven nymph]

my model with webcam tracking for reference, compare it to all the other vids I sent that use phone tracking lmao
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309673129072787486/1313685975150628874/webcam_tracking.mp4?ex=6751b1a7&is=67506027&hm=18fc36c6b269e984de9674c0aee4390c154c85c373dc573a043a8b79b33f16ad&

[atomic ridge]

yeah, they just have the best camera for it

[raven nymph]

not tilting my head btw

[hollow scroll]

But a phone would still give better results

It’s just how it is

Just because of it having the tech setup to scan face due to the Face ID doing scans of the face or something

[atomic ridge]

yeah it's the ARKit right? or is that just the rear cam?

[raven nymph]

in the iPhone's case it's actually Animoji that started its compatibility

Animoji came out and so the cameras on the new phones had to support facial data tracking, and the VTubing community used that to their advantage to animate their models with more presision :3

[spiral mantle]

As a former webcam user now phone user, can confirm that phone is gonna be 100% better
Killer on your battery tho

[deft cloak]

have the phone plugged in lol

[spiral mantle]

i do it still drains the battery lmao

Between the app making my phone hot and it being plugged in it still drains, it actually just stops charging around three hours because of how hot it gets

[raven nymph]

HOW?? 😭

[spiral mantle]

My phone just overheats, a lot of ppl have this issue

[hollow scroll]

it does

mine drains and ive gto a 15 pro

[raven nymph]

same my phone does that too but it doesn't decrease charge while charging it when I use it for VTubing

[hollow scroll]

and it stays stagnant

[raven nymph]

I have a 13 pro and it doesn't drain while I use it for VTubing while it's plugged in

[spiral mantle]

Good for you?

[raven nymph]

just seems strange the battery would go DOWN while plugged in is all

[spiral mantle]

If the phone is hot enough the battery will still drain

[raven nymph]

strange! I never saw that happen before

[spiral mantle]

I rarely have the issue but it has happened to me b4 with a game i used to play on my phone
it doesnt usually get down past 50 tho which is good

[raven nymph]

it probably has happened for me and I never noticed

[spiral mantle]

it's possible
having it plugged in does slow the drain rate so it is possible you haven't noticed
Thing drains my battery in three hours if it's not plugged in tho XD

It's like this weird balance of my phone being too hot and draining quicker and my charger trying to keep the phone charged

[atomic ridge]

yep, i fully charge before stream then plug it in when it gets to about 20% and doesn't really gain lots during it

[spiral mantle]

If you can try to always leave it plugged in
I tend to stream for like 3-8ish hours depending on my energy and after 8 or so hours it gets down to 50ish
3 is usually around 70% battery technology is weird

I have no idea how it works

[atomic ridge]

i will do now! i was worried a little about it always being plugged in but now that it wont be my main phone and i'm using an even older one it'll probably stay plugged in all stream

[marble mortar]

Worth seeing if a 100w charger keeps it more stable? Could help ✨

As long as your phone can handle that, could handle more if that's a thing

[atomic ridge]

mine are only 3-4hrs long on average though since most my viewers are in the US and i'm UK so I start pretty late

[spiral mantle]

Oh I always use my main phone bc I don't have another one kjfgdfkgfd
Your phone will be fine

[atomic ridge]

yeah i just swapped my iphone for a samsung so i cant use that for face tracking now

[spiral mantle]

That's fair, most English speakers are gonna have american or british viewers it seems like
And German, I get a lot of germans

oh mega oof

[atomic ridge]

got my old XR at least which is working perfectly for tracking, at least for now idk how long it'll last i've had it since maybe 2017?

[raven nymph]

relatable! my analytics are mostly American and British, with Canada creeping up alongside the 1% of Japanese folk

[spiral mantle]

If you only use it for one thing it should still be okay, it'll def drain faster than a newer phone but that's just how it is

[spiral mantle]

Was incorrect Belgium and UK are tied at 7% XD
US is 64% but It's also around 8pm for the UK when i start so it makes sense

[marble mortar]

8pm is a good time to go live/post stuff!

Same time I post here in the UK, since most of Europe are online and then USA is a big audience so it hits a good spot for them also.

[atomic ridge]

8pm is good, it's the time i always go for now, it was 7:30 but i like a nice round number it's easier to keep track of

[spiral mantle]

crazy, i got a lot more engagment in general when i started earlier

[atomic ridge]

i guess it depends on your audience? it's pretty much just my friends who watch me so i go for what is best for them

[spiral mantle]

My dad watches me fjkgfdgkjdfgkdfg

[atomic ridge]

aww that's really sweet though! i think i would die of embarassment though

[raven nymph]

my mom found my VTuber insta and I quickly removed her as a follower and she still hasn't noticed

[spiral mantle]

Pft
I don't rly say anything on stream that I wouldn't say around my parents so I don't usually care, he also just kinda tunes in and out but leaves the stream up on his ipad since I didn't have any other viewers rly

[raven nymph]

my mom knows what I do, I removed her just 'cause of the embarassment that comes with having your parents following your accounts

[spiral mantle]

that's fair lmao

[full acorn]

hey

[raven nymph]

hello! :D

[full acorn]

hello

[hollow scroll]

looking forward to rizzmas tbf

shit

wrong channel

[raven nymph]

💀

[atomic ridge]

the only mention of rizz in this channel should be in relation to shoto

[raven nymph]

shoto?

[atomic ridge]

the professor of rizzology
https://www.tiktok.com/@shxtou/video/7246549048985996590

[raven nymph]

😭

[celest current]

hello

[zealous mortar]

✨RIZZMAS✨

[golden wolf]

OH....MY....DOG!!!Maid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9L9YL2NVkw

[raven nymph]

I'm in that festive mood hehe >:3

[hollow scroll]

very rizzmassy of you

[raven nymph]

christmas*

use the correct word, the vtuber chat shall not be brainrotted :3

[marble mortar]

Loving the rizzmas outfit! ✨

Sorry! I mean christmas to you anti-rizzistance leader

[raven nymph]

😭

[zealous mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-rizzmas-voicemod-rizzmas-voicemod-rizz-gif-13758153476654750290

[raven nymph]

flower please 😭

[hollow scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-rizzmas-voicemod-rizzmas-voicemod-rizz-gif-13758153476654750290

[raven nymph]

guys please the VTubing channel must remain brainrot-less!

[zealous mortar]

Nah fam

[hollow scroll]

im a vtuber and am in the rizzistance

[raven nymph]

bruhhhhh

[marble mortar]

Let's try to keep all of the rizz in #🫧┃casual-chat ✨

[raven nymph]

THANK you Naturo! my goat

[zealous mortar]

That's not very rizz of you leader

[hollow scroll]

What if I didn’t listen to him :3

[raven nymph]

he's your leader Pluto

you have to

contract :3

[hollow scroll]

The amount of times army commanders/generals go against their leader successfully is actually surprisingly high

[marble mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/tobiichi-origami-anime-date-a-live-sniper-gif-17353119

Watch your back commander

[hollow scroll]

Sniper will do nothing against my air force :3

[raven nymph]

tweaked a few things now I'm satisfied with it

[raven nymph]

I posted this on my bluesky :3
https://bsky.app/profile/potatoplays.bsky.social/post/3ld2rck6vwc2a

Potato Plays (@potatoplays.bsky.social)

! NEW OUTFIT ALERT !
This 'tater is feeling jolly, full of Christmas spirit, and hungry for candy canes! Behold, my festive new outfit for the holidays! :D
#christmas #vtuberen :3

▶ Play video

Bluesky · Dec 11, 2024, 10:06 PM

bruhh notification for a reaction? seriously discord???

[marble mortar]

real

[raven nymph]

[marble mortar]

haha yes!!!

[raven nymph]

yee!!!

I knew this emote would come in handy eventually!

[marble mortar]

You know for an Anti you're not so bad. 🤝

[raven nymph]

real

[marble mortar]

Until tomorrow

[raven nymph]

tomorrow?

tomorrow I'm going for a pedicure, I won't be here for a while lmaoo

[marble mortar]

omg slayyy 💅

I should do mine purple again

[raven nymph]

real!!!

[marble mortar]

was a while!

[hollow scroll]

dont be stupid

[marble mortar]

Let's have peace just for today

[raven nymph]

I plan to get my nails done light blue with white spots, and plain white in between :3

[marble mortar]

ohh cute!

miku nails

[raven nymph]

like lemme visualize it rq

here 'ya go! just edited the picture from last time

[marble mortar]

Pretty!

[raven nymph]

yeah!

[marble mortar]

I like the contrast but it's also nice and pastel

[raven nymph]

yup!

will show it tmr when they're done

[marble mortar]

Yeee sounds good ^^

[regal moat]

Hel- WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT "NAILS" IN THE GAMING CHANNEL????????????

[hollow scroll]

its not the gaming channnel

[regal moat]

uhg, nvm, i am so blind

[raven nymph]

this is clearly not that lmaoo

😊

[atomic ridge]

oooh speaking of nails i really need to do mine 👀

in the new year i might do some lego building streams since i know chat loves handcams and i found my camera

[raven nymph]

slay!!!

going for my pedicure in a couple minutes soo

[atomic ridge]

your nails are gonna look so cute

[raven nymph]

@atomic ridge @marble mortar my nails hehe :3

[atomic ridge]

the white looks so good with the blue!

[raven nymph]

ikr!!!

[zealous mortar]

I thought pedicure was feet

That's why I got confused you were going to send your grippers

[raven nymph]

it is but I ain't showing feet pics

got manicure too

just didn't mention it until now

[zealous mortar]

Ohhh that makes more sense

They're very cute nails :3

I've never actually had mine done

[raven nymph]

real!

u should get 'em done! feels really good

[zealous mortar]

I should do tbf, I got out of the habit of biting them years ago and have just been trimming them myself

[marble mortar]

Yay! They look so good ^^

[raven nymph]

yeah!!!

[hollow scroll]

[raven nymph]

[sand junco]

I am from Brazil.

[raven nymph]

nice!

[livid pine]

How do you use your phone as a separate camera for this

[hollow scroll]

you can use the vtube studio mobile app to capture the actual face data, and you can use a ddesktop app like vnyan if its a 3d model, or actually vtube studio's desktop itself if youre doing a 2d model and receive the data

needs to have a compatible phone to do this tho

[livid pine]

I see would a iPhone 14 work

[hollow scroll]

yep

any phone that has faceid basically

[livid pine]

👍

[golden wolf]

funny scene https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xn_SJ5BOhvo

[raven nymph]

reposting from Creative Corner since this is technically VTubing related

I decided to make myself a new pfp for after the holidays and OH MY GOD IT TURNED OUT SO GOOD

[cursive gorge]

Damn right it did

Wow

[raven nymph]

:D

[marble mortar]

So good! ^^

[spiral mantle]

IK I'm a little late to the party but for 3D models you can also use iFacialMocap
You don't technically have to pay for it you'll just have banner ads

[livid pine]

Ok another random question say I use a helmet from a character like I don’t know mega man do I need to be worried about copyright

[raven nymph]

it should be fine if you make it different enough to not be exactly megaman's helmet lmao

[livid pine]

Pigeon with mega man but not mega helmet here we come

[raven nymph]

nice, what relation does that have to vtubing?

[deft cloak]

Yeah… I don’t see any relation to vtubing..

[golden wolf]

Please, let me get visited by this Santa for Christmas this year. I've been a good Ruffian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAk7XECKW70

[raven nymph]

w!!! I've been good too >:3

[raven nymph]

w clip right here lmao
https://youtube.com/shorts/ETRHSkv94AI?si=Mv74-s-am5dnN_5I

[golden wolf]

As Moco Santa sniffs you a bit

[raven nymph]

I just drew my fav Japanese VTuber :3

[vagrant lily]

Looking great :3

[raven nymph]

ty!

[atomic ridge]

Realised I hadn't sent it here yet, I got my mic and I just had to put my Shoto keychain on it since he was my inspiration to get back into streaming as I realised I didn't need to show myself

[fluid sonnet]

I JUST BECAME A VTUBER!!!

[lunar island]

my favorite tboi streamer got a new model!!!!!!!!!

[shadow sentinel]

can a mod unmute me

[deft cloak]

I don't think you've been server muted, I think it's just because you're level 0. #🔥┃levels

[golden wolf]

Gigi truly deserved that "Most Chaotic Vtuber Award" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbuqa5qK1Ks

[golden wolf]

more examples of chaotic Gigi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvVL_9DES4

[golden wolf]

was curious if the Pinocchio joke towards Cecilia was already made. Searched it up and this popped up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcfZEAbVM84

[raven nymph]

KRONI W
https://youtu.be/WgBocR2hwZM?si=1FoCLUvxDYCx9df4

[deft cloak]

it's absolutely intentional. they're trying to boil the frog, the frog being everyone using Windows.

[marble mortar]

Give me official Steam OS!

[rapid escarp]

you can use like https://bazzite.gg/

at the moment

if you want steam os experience

[marble mortar]

If I had a spare PC I would deffo try this out

[rapid escarp]

also random fact its not called a bluescreen

its called a bugcheck

[rapid escarp]

have not used it but heard amazing things about it

[zealous mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/bsod-gif-23533179

:(

[rapid escarp]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-code-reference2

its intenally called the bugcheck screen

speaking to da nerd

[raven nymph]

you mean... make people not wanna use windows? I mean like Kroni said, she doesn't like Windows 11, but has no other options

MacOS is just plain bad, and Linux is WAYYY too complicated to bother with

[deft cloak]

They want to make it as advantageous for them as possible and they’re hoping you don’t notice.

[raven nymph]

how is making the OS worse advantageous for them

[deft cloak]

Their goal isn’t making the OS worse, it’s adding things they can use for their own gain, such as features they can use to spy on users (Copilot for example).

That’s also why they push Edge so hard, they so desperately want you to depend on it, depend on their product.

[marble mortar]

They want this ^

[zealous mortar]

yoink

mine

[deft cloak]

Yup. If they can get enough one more penny from you it’s worth it in their eyes.

[deft cloak]

Also, don’t diss MacOS or Linux. Apple may not treat their third party devs well resulting in fewer applications, but at least the OS is functional and stable the grand majority of the time.
As for Linux, it’s constantly being developed and improved by tens of thousands of developers across all the different distros. Sure, it’s not the most beginner friendly, but there are more beginner friendly distros such as Linux Mint. And yes, there’s some jank, but it’s improved over the years, and the only reason there’s any jank is because there aren’t enough people, particularly corporations, that support it as a decktop OS, aside from Valve.

[marble mortar]

It's only going to continue to improve! May even be one of the OS's you go for in the future over windows if everything gets adopted with full support.

Hopefully valve can help with that.

[hollow scroll]

can we talk about something other than windows 11 being bad tho

plus MacOS is the best OS ive used, its just so much better than anything

[atomic ridge]

If i could do everything on MacOS I would

I opened YouTube to this clip I love again

https://youtu.be/uKrXj7idE1s?si=mZ7COgDyH81PKCLp

That's my oshi he may not know other animals but at least he can recognise a rat

[hollow scroll]

Hmmm he seems interesting

[hollow scroll]

nahhhhhh hes just like xqc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmrUeGMyWo

[atomic ridge]

flesh?? In my vtubing channel??

[hollow scroll]

its the concept OKAY

[hollow scroll]

calling a capybara a monkey is criminal

[atomic ridge]

He's just a lil silly that's all

[hollow scroll]

ok with the rats i cant really blame him

idk the differences between rodents really by look

[atomic ridge]

He loves rats, his new model has him holding one i gotta get a pic it's so cute

Ah easy I got this screenshot I sent to a friend

[hollow scroll]

DOGGY

[atomic ridge]

Best dog boy

[raven nymph]

THAT ART IS SO GOOD

[hollow scroll]

@atomic ridge stop infecting me with your curse

[atomic ridge]

never!

[atomic ridge]

his model artist is incredible, i love all of them

[marble mortar]

Be very affraid

[hollow scroll]

squibidi game!

affraid

[raven nymph]

I smell a new pfp

[deft cloak]

Not 100% sure, but pretty sure that was a chinchilla.. 🙃 :3

[atomic ridge]

oh yeah the first was a chinchilla but there was a rat at the end

[deft cloak]

ah. 🙃 :3 (I didn't watch the whole thing lol)

[atomic ridge]

he got very defensive over it

[raven nymph]

made my first pixel art VTuber for a friend! Wasn't fun to make, but the result is SUPER FUN!

[deft cloak]

Cute. Very silly lol 🙃 :3

[raven nymph]

tyy!

[flint glade]

Wsp nerds

[rapid escarp]

Amazing

[half sable]

how can you become a Vtuber and install a Vtubing application? who can help me please?

[raven nymph]

you need a VTuber model, and an application to run the model on
I use 2D models so I use VTube Studio on Steam, but there's other programs like VSeeFace that do 3D models!

[half sable]

VTube Studio need money to have this app ?

[raven nymph]

nope! both programs I just mentioned are free!

[half sable]

ok thx

[raven nymph]

VTube Studio does have an optional payment for mobile tracking beyond 5 minute intervals, but that's optional!

[golden wolf]

To those who don't know or may already know about V&U, last month they came out with their 4th gen group and I think this girl is my favorite girl. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pvDignNR09g

[flint glade]

Vtuber need better mic

[hollow scroll]

wrong channel

[atomic ridge]

if you keep spamming you'll be exp blacklisted or even muted, you won't level up like this

[golden wolf]

this is from the bagel man/ baglet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFY0uGRXazs

[golden wolf]

I kind of wish this was the official animation used for this cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac6k5BpakUA

[fathom marsh]

Windows 11 is great if u get tiny 11

[raven nymph]

I will never like 11 unless they fix almost everything about it

[hollow scroll]

Can we not talk about this again

[raven nymph]

yeah I'm not the one who brought it up tho

[vagrant lily]

Just give Windows 11 some time.

[raven nymph]

they're cutting 10's life support in like a few months

[vagrant lily]

I remember time when people hated Windows 10. Nowadays it is liked.

[raven nymph]

there is no TIME

[hollow scroll]

Majority of people like it so it’s the best option realistically

I’d rather they focus on one OS than multiple

[marble mortar]

Just remember windows 10 is 10 years old sadly :(

But it's true, people hated windows 8 & 10 for a long time, both work just fine, windows 11 keeps getting updated and more added to it because it's their latest and windows 10 will be super stable because it doesn't get those big new updates.

Let's hate all windows versions because realistically Microsoft is behind it all and even I'm starting to get annoyed with windows.

Give me steam OS and more apps to support Linux any day ✨

[fathom marsh]

true

[fathom marsh]

but u need windows to play anti cheat games

[marble mortar]

That as well, but the more users who make the move to linux the more support there will be around anti-cheat

[deft cloak]

Needing to install a client side kernel-level anticheat tool is an absolute skill issue on the developer’s end. 🙃 :3

[hollow scroll]

I mean, no

Anti cheats that are kernel sided are much better at detecting stuff

Look at VAC? Absolutely terrible and can’t even detect spinbotters. The issue that has been with Kernel sided is mainly how Vanguard stays open all the time. One of the main issues people say is that it’s Chinese, which honestly is just Sinophobia, sadly America loves to spread that, for example the TikTok ban. It’s complete and utter hypocrisy when Meta is allowed to steal data

[deft cloak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LY2hG-_asKU

[hollow scroll]

I agree it shouldn’t be 24/7

Every single game I’ve played that’s used kernel sided AC’s I’ve ran into much less cheaters

Security concerns aren’t as much of a problem when if they really want that info they can still get it

[deft cloak]

If they can’t manage without kernel level anticheat then as far as I’m concerned they can f*ck off.

[hollow scroll]

Well then cheaters are just gonna run rampant, I’d like to point out cs2

It’s either or, you care about cheaters, or you care about your security when all your data is likely stolen anyway

The issue has always been if they’re open 24/7 even if the game is closed. Thats what the outcry over vanguard was in the majority, fueled by the other thing I mentioned

I get the concerns, but you’re either gonna have cheaters and less vulnerabilities technically, or cheaters and a few more vulnerabilities, but a much much better gaming experience. I can’t think of a non kernel AC that’s actually done a good job at stoping cheaters

[deft cloak]

It’s mostly just detecting patterns. Remember the whole instant direction switching thing from a couple months ago? I don’t remember how they tried to fix it but I do remember it was a dumb, relatively ineffective solution. Just count how often someone perfectly switches inputs, if it’s inhuman then ban them.
Also if the anticheat is server side and it’s good then it’ll be harder to directly bypass than client side.
https://youtube.com/shorts/V2nzN2w5yQo

[hollow scroll]

Then why is it that there aren’t any good non kernel ACs

This is completely related to multiplayer games

You cannot play an MP game nowadays without one. I play cs2 I get absolutely destroyed by toxic cheaters as the ac doesn’t work. Valorant is much less filled with cheaters, and war thunder I’ve not had a single cheater ever and I’ve played 500 hours. COD I never had a cheater. Making an extra layer for cheaters to go through is needed, as it raises the cost of cheats due to more effort, meaning less cheat distributors and lowering levels of viruses being installed by people

With non kernel ACs it’s just so much more common, so many more cheats and distributors exist. If you were to play a single player game I can see where it would be bad as it’s not needed. But for multiplayer games I just don’t think we can use any other type, as proved by games nowadays

I wish this wasn’t the case tho, but with it being deeper access, only certain people will be targeted, and it won’t be your average end user as it’ll just be a massive waste of time

[deft cloak]

You’ve probably never heard of any because they probably aren’t named, they’re probably custom made, built-in, and server side. Everything leans towards you not hearing about them. When you play a game and you don’t encounter any cheaters do you think “dang, I wonder what anticheat they’re using”, no, you probably don’t. I had other points in mind but I pretty much just woke up, am tired, and forgot.

[hollow scroll]

I do and most AAA games will use them, and those are the games cheaters target the most

But anyway this is vtubing lol

[vagrant lily]

#🎮┃gaming would fit better in that case.

[hollow scroll]

Yes

[deft cloak]

Uh-huh.. 🙃

[vagrant lily]

Was there technical/technology channel before?

[deft cloak]

I think so.. but it wasn’t really used much so it’s just been rolled back up into gaming

[hollow scroll]

Nobody used it as everything talked about can either go in general, gaming or the special chat

[deft cloak]

Yea lol 🙃 :3

#🎮┃gaming message

[marble mortar]

Gaming is a nice balance of both, so feel free to send in there!

[golden wolf]

HoloGTA was the moment when I realized that I have a crush on these ladies. Subaru is cute, though leaning more towards Fubuki. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDEkhktox9g

[raven nymph]

I updated my bald toggle after learning how to do this certain thing with it hehe :3

[raven nymph]

another update to my model

[fathom marsh]

very epic :3

[golden wolf]

I can't stop with these autofister moments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfWPupJiB4

[mellow dawn]

And this is a vtuber

[lethal whale]

Wie got hand tracking on vseeface

[raven nymph]

VTube Studio has hand tracking capabilities too but you only get to use it if the model you're using has that set up

[lethal whale]

I dont now i try it

[raven nymph]

ME FR

[golden wolf]

this is amazing, yet the way they look at you hits in a different way. Then again that's just me. Maybe https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0GcHpfjtFHY

[thin fjord]

thats actually a good model

[marble mortar]

This belongs here also 🔥

https://youtu.be/0LEc7es4_rE?si=0yzDYsKm37WeA1Vt

[marble mortar]

It's so good, I just put the full video ^

[golden wolf]

Them looking at me makes me feel the feels.

[golden wolf]

Whenever I see Gura streaming again, it's like watching an actual shark reappearing months after the last time she showed up. Yes, she's busy with other things and maybe irl stuff. It's so rare. Another note I would absolutely like a cheezburger from these 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv0DE8EfbM4

[golden wolf]

wow. Calizilla. nice name and please make fan art of that. another note wild. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKjZEstXgA&t=267s

[deft cloak]

Short explanation^: Kronii’s YT account got hacked by some cryptobro [*scumbag], she got it back, next day she did a bit meme-ing on it (she did have a disclaimer saying that it’s a joke) with other Hololive members joining in. At some point during this some horrible person made a cryptocurrency named after Kronii. It has already been pump-and-dumped once apparently. Don’t buy Kronii coin. 🙃 :3

[raven nymph]

you call the guy who hacked her a scumbag? I call him a loser LMAO

[deft cloak]

Does them being a ‘loser’ make them any less of a scumbag..? If Kronii hadn’t gotten her account back as quickly as she did then it’s possible they could have done some serious damage. .. and it’s possibly they could have gotten away with some ill gotten gains.

[raven nymph]

yeah ik

me when I got hacked: OH NO I GOTTA GET THIS IDIOT OUTTA HERE FAST OMG
Kronii when she got hacked: aw yeah, let's meme the shit outta this >:)

wdym?

???

it's literally on topic

kronii got hacked by a crypto bro

...huh??? if you just read like two messages above mine you would've had that context???

...

this is the vtubing channel

lol

[still abyss]

The feeling of being hacked bro

Best feeling ever ngl =))

[raven nymph]

LOL

[still abyss]

Because like whenever I get my acc back (if that's possible :)))

I will be like

[raven nymph]

when I got hacked I was just having a fun time with my family and I got home, checked my phone, and I had like 20+ dms from my friends screaming at me to get rid of the hacker 😭

[still abyss]

OH YEAH, TIME TO EXPOSE THEM BABYYY

[still abyss]

Being hacked is the best way to get rid of addiction lol

[raven nymph]

luckily the idiot that got in decided to spam dms before changing the password

so while they were still doing it I rushed to the settings and changed it (also added 2fa lol)

[still abyss]

Noice =)))

[rapid escarp]

i have everything locked down

[still abyss]

[raven nymph]

that easily kicked them out and I recovered my stuff

some people unfriended me after getting the hack dm tho

[rapid escarp]

everthing inorder to login requires 2fa security key

[raven nymph]

I'm so SO glad the idiot didn't get to all my servers...

[still abyss]

2fa is da best

[raven nymph]

you can't be that age here on discord, also doubt you are, don't say you're 1 😭

[still abyss]

Who the hell would know how to use discord at 1 year old??

THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO WALK

/jk

[raven nymph]

yeah

Discord is a 13+ app (should really be 16+...)

[still abyss]

Oh wait this is vtubing channel

[raven nymph]

that's... not what I said???

[rapid escarp]

don't make jokes like this

[raven nymph]

they were never in my house? not how hacking works

[still abyss]

...

[rapid escarp]

lets move on

[raven nymph]

if they find my house I'm calling the cops, that's final

[still abyss]

My brain is literally trying to load what the conversation is going to be

[raven nymph]

yeah let's go back to VTubing topic

[rapid escarp]

this is so off topic

[raven nymph]

look at this silly thing I drew for my sub alert

[still abyss]

I literally said this 2 mins ago

[raven nymph]

memes channel exists 'yaknow lol

#🐸┃memes

[still abyss]

PFFT

Anyways if you want to continue that conversation

Go to #🫧┃casual-chat pls and thank you

[raven nymph]

nobody commented on my silly :(

[still abyss]

I will give it a 9.9 / 10

[raven nymph]

9.9? why not 10?

[still abyss]

I will add a 0.1 if it turns into an emoji

[raven nymph]

LOL

gimme a second

[still abyss]

WHY IS YOUR BIO SO BRIGHT??

Potato

[raven nymph]

the silly

[still abyss]

Okay 10 / 10

I will come to your house and slap you /jk

[raven nymph]

I'm not a fan of using dark colours :P

[still abyss]

Not when it's like 4am in the morning

🧢

And that got deleted

[raven nymph]

yeah 'cause even if it's not actually your IP you shouldn't be sharing that

oh it actually looks like they may have been banned idk, all their messages are gone not just that one

[still abyss]

Wut??

I think they got 🔨

[raven nymph]

when you ban someone from a server you get the option to delete all their recent messages up to 7 days

[still abyss]

THE BAN HAMMER HAS BEEN SPOKEN

(classic quote BTW)

[raven nymph]

anyways back on topic again, LOL yeah I'm told "WHY IS YOUR PROFILE SO BRIGHT" all the time

[still abyss]

Your bio is brighter than my future ngl

Me on my way to lvl 10 yeeehawww

(cuz I want to troll my friends SO BAD)

[deft cloak]

User Settings -> Accessibility -> Sync profile themes

[still abyss]

OMG thank you for that

[deft cloak]

yw :3

[still abyss]

I have been using discord for 2 years and I somehow don't know that existed

[deft cloak]

lol I’ve known for a while, don’t remember where I first saw it tho. Might’ve been one of those tip/help popups.

[raven nymph]

sub alert finished, so silly indeed

[still abyss]

Perfect

[golden wolf]

I've successfully Kirbified Projekt Melody, a vtuber in half of her bikini outfit, and 2 different versions.

[deft cloak]

that's cursed... smh lol 🙃

[still abyss]

That's something..... (why does it look very cursed ngl?)

[raven nymph]

not the ai generated pfp 😭

[hollow scroll]

i mean i know its frowned upon and i agree with that

but criticising people's pfps just isnt needed

[raven nymph]

it's art theft...

[hollow scroll]

yes i know

[raven nymph]

as an artist I'm not gonna just ignore literal art theft

[hollow scroll]

im also an artist

i dont agree with it

[vagrant lily]

Sadly stopping it is impossible. There are many people who generate AI pictures.

[raven nymph]

yeah Ik 😔

google is also plagued with ai slop now

[hollow scroll]

all im saying is attacking over it isnt helpful :/

[raven nymph]

my friend was looking for a reference image for their vtubing background and everything they sent me was ai generated 😭

[raven nymph]

wasn't attacking???

you insist on arguing with me over nothing...

[hollow scroll]

i wasnt arguing? i was just trying to say be mindful with how it can come across, is all

at least its a personal pfp and NOT for business purposes etc

[raven nymph]

I brought it up because they can clearly draw, and yet they used an ai pfp

[hollow scroll]

all i will say is the loudest in a movement tend to bring the movement down for the rest of us. i.e climate change activists

im not trying to argue, just pointing outn how it could come across ^^

[golden wolf]

[golden wolf]

No. 1 is cute, No. 2 is very cursed

[golden wolf]

Not AI generated more like I generated/ I drew it.

[raven nymph]

you see that's what I don't like...

doing AI stuff and claiming you make it

[deft cloak]

Are you jersito on DeviantArt? https://www.deviantart.com/jersito/art/Kirby-disfrazado-de-Santa-Claus-993592740

[hollow scroll]

They said it’s not AI

[raven nymph]

the imperfections are even clearer here...

[raven nymph]

😭

[deft cloak]

the actual person who made it did tag it as AI.

But let's stop this before it gets out of hand.

[hollow scroll]

i said this already, but ai art is going to happen no matter what

attacking people/calling them out for using it is not helpful imo

[raven nymph]

I'm not attacking obviously

I'm just saying don't say it's not ai

[hollow scroll]

"oh i noticed you have an AI pfp, as an artist do you realise how harmful this can be" you can say something likethat

and you could do it in dms, as it just comes across a bit nicer

people are entitled to an opinion, id rather this as an opinoin than a bigoted opinion at a minority tbh

[raven nymph]

at a minority? what minority?

[hollow scroll]

i said id rather someone be pro AI than a transphobic opinion as an example

[deft cloak]

Ahem..

Second line ^

[raven nymph]

yeah I agree with ruby

[hollow scroll]

ofc

[deft cloak]

:3 🙃

[golden wolf]

That is not me. I just drew for fun. Took me hours to design that kirbo to look like Melody. Not that good of an artist which is why. Plus I’m kind of a perfectionist.

[marble mortar]

They mean your profile picture on discord, not the melody art. Good work on the melody art btw!

But we can move on, it's not important & it's easy to just find something on google images as a pfp these days so I doubt there was any negative thought behind it as it wasn't generated by yourself.

[golden wolf]

Apologizes didn’t not understand the question. I got the image from google

[raven nymph]

yeah... google is full of ai slop now a days

[hollow scroll]

its only a personal pfp too ^^

[golden wolf]

Didn’t see if it was from deviant art. I guess it was

[marble mortar]

See no harm, I don't think we even need to be pointing out if people use AI art unless if it's in #1138609509477134519 since that's for real art.

You'll see a lot of people with AI pfp's, it's to be expected and it doesn't need to pointed out, it isn't harming anyone, it's discord and personal use, unless it is being used to make money or being claimed to be made by themselves, then point it out all you want.

Just be mindful that not everyone is aware of the implications of having AI pfp's, to most it's just harmful and they found it on google.

[hollow scroll]

especially when say phones are pushing ai art generators, such as Apple

[deft cloak]

one of those Microsoft apps... o_O

[marble mortar]

Sadly there will be a lot of personally generated art, as it's becoming more accessible and encouraged.

Not all models are trained unethically. But it is easy to get the results you want when prompting an artist. I don't agree with it as an end result, AI can be useful to assist with references only, but the end results should always be created by a real person.

People need to use AI as a tool to assist or speed up a result that would have been exactly the same as person spending more time on it, not to fully create, otherwise it will continue to be harmful.

[raven nymph]

people don't know how it should be used so it keeps being used for bad things 😭

[marble mortar]

It's the case for a lot of things, people are always the problem

[deft cloak]

mhm... 🙃 always..

[hollow scroll]

skibidi toilet

[raven nymph]

yeah pluto! good example of something bad that come out of humanity! :D

[hollow scroll]

much much much worse things we should care about

[fathom marsh]

that looks cool

[still abyss]

Agreed

[still abyss]

That Kirby picture is so CUTE

[raven nymph]

it's not even made by a real person 😭

anyways, that convo is long done now, Imma go to bed

[golden wolf]

[golden wolf]

Behold I’ve Kirbified virtual CodeMiko.Also again 2 versions. Hope y’all enjoy.

[marble mortar]

More streaming releated but this is a very useful thing if you have a Stream deck! https://x.com/Kyo_Koro/status/1882585702439018909

Kyo 🌹Cheshire Menace (@Kyo_Koro) on X

WE DO NOT GATEKEEP ✨

First download Elgato Stream Deck for free and connect everything.
Google "Elgato Marketplace"
Navigate to "Stream Deck"
Search for Twitch Tools, pic below ⬇️
Once installed, you should see "Monitor Channel"

Drag it, drop a new button, and fill it out!

X · Jan 24, 2025, 12:26 AM

[marble mortar]

https://x.com/Kyo_Koro/status/1882550784702951559

Kyo 🌹Cheshire Menace (@Kyo_Koro) on X

I finally figured it out!
Now I can see when some oomfs and oshis go live ♥

I should probably make folders but im just so excited to have it accessible now ahahahaha 🥲

X · Jan 23, 2025, 10:07 PM

[still abyss]

Nice

[atomic ridge]

ohhh i used that before! it was handy to see who was live without opening it up

[still abyss]

Agreed

[golden wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E0UcHN4Jylk

[raven nymph]

am working on a brand new outfit for my silly goober!! It's meant to be the same kinda theme most VTubers go for (lots of stuff going on, def not a casual outfit) so I'm going above and beyond for it!
Here's a lil teaser hehe >:3

[deft cloak]

👀 cute lol :3

[still abyss]

Nice

[golden wolf]

holy cow. Saw that first weird teaser trailer from Vshojo days ago. Thought it was a Geega or Hime kind of outfit debut. Nope. I am stunned, yet not surprised in a way. good for her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQy2Q2o6s9E

[deft cloak]

Ah. "The Scuff Queen". Hopefully this means CyYu can finally catch a break. lol :3 🙃

Did you know she apparently uses Microsoft Edge? o_O 🙃 lol..

[deft cloak]

Found it. This is from September 2023, but she probably still uses it. lol 🙃 https://youtube.com/shorts/U7hmFLegN90

[cursive gorge]

I do too lol it works

Not my fault I didn't get a different browser by default and I kinda just lived with it with out a care lol

[raven nymph]

no wonder she has so many issues!!!

[raven nymph]

LOLLL now VShojo has to deal with all her scuff >:3

[zealous mortar]

I've used it for years with 0 issues lmao

[golden wolf]

Pffft. This is the funniest connection to Mori's $Kronii investigation. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rTYZTgnOeIA

[fringe raven]

Yesica Hernández si S8fRZRzrv02rxSqx la verdad

[brittle scroll]

Facts

[fringe raven]

my friend

[hollow scroll]

why tf is he streaming under vtuber

[deft cloak]

wtf...

[raven nymph]

LOL

XQC VTuber model reveal /j

[golden wolf]

that peppy moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0YzKvrNGrA

[marble mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/woozlereacts-sourvision-yona-yona-of-the-dawn-akatsuki-no-yona-gif-5605794591904011705

Well

[hollow scroll]

[raven nymph]

oop what happened

now everything's gone 😭

[hollow scroll]

yk

[marble mortar]

sussy baka

[raven nymph]

real

so they said something else completely unhinged and now everything is gone?

[hollow scroll]

Lmao

I watched for 5 minutes and apparently I got one? Also I got a war thunder vtuber gift sub, do I just have luck?

[raven nymph]

LOLL

[zealous mortar]

Not Filian

[hollow scroll]

i mean the stream i watched a bit of wasnt that bad

i just dont think i could watch high energy like that for more than a small amount

[zealous mortar]

No she's just not a nice person

[hollow scroll]

dms rq

[raven nymph]

I mean yeah she did break the rules for her avatar in multiple ways

[zealous mortar]

That's why I said she's not a nice person - she hasn't even apologised

[hollow scroll]

doesnt pay editors well

to get paid you had to get a video over 100k views, and then the rate was so low, like $20

[raven nymph]

for those uninformed: she literally ripped her avatar which she didn't pay for from VRChat, and then she attempted to partner with YouTooz for a Fillian figurine which eventually the model creator saw and wasn't happy about due to the model rules

[zealous mortar]

Ripped multiple and tried to partner with more companies

Jokes about stealing them on her streams as well

She has enough money to get her own custom avatar for herself + for merch...

[hollow scroll]

she made racist jokes back in 22 too apparently

bro shes gotta be absolutely loaded

[zealous mortar]

[hollow scroll]

i really need to start streaming again

vtuber war thunder streams are guaranteed viewers really

[raven nymph]

yup, literally said she didn't buy the model on streams

[hollow scroll]

So many shitty streamers

That’s what happens when you give random people a massive platform

Random, non pr trained people

[raven nymph]

I mean a lot of company CEOs are also super shitty

[hollow scroll]

i didnt say they werent

[atomic ridge]

the majority are good people, there's just a few bad eggs

about vtubers not ceo's

[hollow scroll]

a lot more good than bad yeah

but the problem is young people with no pr training get themselves in trouble

that was my point

probably shouldve said something different to so many, but even tho its a small percentage, its still a lot is what i meant

[raven nymph]

made my models eyes a TON more expressive just by linking them to my eyebrow height :3

[raven nymph]

boowomp

[marble mortar]

More expressions ✨

[golden wolf]

oh my Miku https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iucmGGJAyE

[cunning blaze]

I just saw all the filian stuff
I knew her model was public and not her own
But damn
Though personally I cannot make a full judgement until I see everything on the matter

[marble mortar]

Preach!

I'm honestly so surprised she hasn't just got her own custom model by now, she's a big enough streamer to do it & then she can do all the brand deals she likes.

[deft cloak]

probably lazy lol

she also might not want to risk recognizability even though getting a custom model would be better for her reputation

[hollow scroll]

Literally probably someone would commission for free

Not like money is an issue for her

[vagrant lily]

More like attitude matters.

[hollow scroll]

Real

She’s got such an ego

[marble mortar]

Yeah, could have apologized and just got a new model, but instead doubled down and acts like they've done nothing wrong.

Will still be a big steamer.

[hollow scroll]

at that following you would have to idk kill someone on stream and eat them for them to no longer have followers

even then id imagine stragglers would stay along, you get past a point where youre invincible essentially

[deft cloak]

iirc there have been a few large youtubers and such who have completely eviscerated their reputation and lost pretty much their entire following over stuff that's not even as bad as that^. you don't hear about them much tho. it's not usually the type of thing that reaches many ears unless it's someone truly massive.

[hollow scroll]

ive heard fillians community worships her tho

[deft cloak]

filian's community isn't one that I'd expect much of

[hollow scroll]

thing is tho, peole get cancelled and turn into a political grifter nowadays, and then you attract bad people who are gonna view you as they think they’re edgy

[raven nymph]

her model is a public PAID avatar, but there are public versions uploaded on VRC, I even found and saved one of them!

[cunning blaze]

Ahhh makes sense

[raven nymph]

her using it isn't the issue, in fact she cloned it from one of her friends who did pay for it and uploaded it to VRC
it's her monitizing the avatar through merch like figurines and cups

[cunning blaze]

Just to make sure
If one gets a model through gumroad legitimately
And makes a few changes and represents the changed model as their own (no not calling the base model their own creation, character wise) would it still be wrong or would it be all good

[cunning blaze]

That actually answered my question lol

[raven nymph]

it's still the same model at the end of the day with some extra modifications, it's the right thing to do to properly credit the original model owner

[cunning blaze]

I do so plenty
I even kept the creator card in mine even though the model represents
Well
V3C70R lol
But the base I kept the creator card and I let people know who made it

[raven nymph]

all my stuff is self-made! :3 If I were to use assets from someone else tho, I would absolutely credit them

[cunning blaze]

I'm unity strong not blender strong lol
I just needed a base head start
But textures and colors and animations I can do lol

[raven nymph]

I know a good anime style model maker app that's very easy to learn and doesn't require any modelling skill!

[hollow scroll]

As much as I like my VRC avatar model, I am tempted to think of going lvie2d if streaming goes well

[cunning blaze]

I just used the Nicoreda mantled beast and made some shader changes and color changes
A bone adjustment
And I use it for VRChat
And made a vrm of it for other uses lol

[raven nymph]

2D models are really cool imo! You can do a lot of cool things with them!

[deft cloak]

you referring to VRoid Studio or did you find something else?

[hollow scroll]

Main problem with me is my monitors meaning if I read chat I have to look to my right completely and it’s really noticeable, and I heard 2d ones can go further

What

I mean the head turn is less noticeable

[raven nymph]

vroid yeah

my model was made in VROID

[hollow scroll]

Isn’t yours 2d?

Or does vroid do 2d too

[deft cloak]

her 3d one

[hollow scroll]

Mm

[raven nymph]

I'm talking about my 3D VRChat model

[hollow scroll]

A

[raven nymph]

Live2D at one point WAS experimenting with 2D art over a 3D model that looks 3D even tho it isn't, but ig they couldn't figure it out and it was abandoned

[hollow scroll]

i finally lost my 80% indian viewers

somehow

It was for so long

[thin furnace]

yo

[raven nymph]

hello!

[elder bobcat]

Fudge yes

[dark lintel]

hello

[raven nymph]

hi!

[inner hinge]

Whats a vtuber

[raven nymph]

a streamer/content creator that uses a virtual face tracking avatar to represent themselves to hide their real life identity :3

[inner hinge]

Alright thanks miss

[raven nymph]

np!

[spark current]

as

[raven nymph]

huh?

[golden wolf]

Story 1 & 3 are my favorite. Mainly cause of vtuber cast in them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZDYIvHF4Vw

[dark lintel]

Hello

[vagrant lily]

Hello

[golden wolf]

the design for her model looks mega unique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHIN8TWkxj4

[inner hinge]

Guys if I were to become a vtuber. Could my avatar be barack obama and I stream fortnite while wearing hatsune miku skin and call the channel "presidential fortnite streams" on twitch

[unreal heath]

Did a big collage of one of the Vtubers I'm in a server with, and it's a lot of history.

[raven nymph]

silly!! me likie

[raven nymph]

random clip from when I was playing roblox just now

[barren sonnet]

wowzers

[atomic ridge]

this customisable model i've been following for years released today so turns out i do have a valentines date this year I'm so happy with all the options I can have yellow "star" freckles The artist and rigger is suiika I adore her work

[marble mortar]

Looks really good ^^

[atomic ridge]

I can't stop looking at her, i've spent over 2 hours on VTS already

[raven nymph]

PRETTY!

[flint glade]

What the nerds up to

[atomic ridge]

i finally had the time to do a little video, now i just need to figure out how to get certain toggles into chat redeems

[marble mortar]

Haha the intro movement was funny, looks really good ^^

[atomic ridge]

i realised part way through i forgot to get the other way so i just flipped it and it looks so silly

[atomic ridge]

it's a bit long but i have vbridger now! i dont think i can be this expressive when i talk on stream though

my mama is so talented i need to learn how to customise the textures a little but i'm scared... i've been watching some model siblings do it but they all have drawing tablets

[atomic ridge]

ohh i was using the wrong version, there's a v3 so it's way better now

[zealous mortar]

[raven nymph]

lmaoo spoomkee did a whole rebrand from a 3D furry avatar to a 2D customizable model

liking the new look gurl!

[atomic ridge]

yeah the furry one my mod wanted me to try out i've been waiting like 2 years for this model to come out and was ready for the second it dropped

i'm having so much fun with it! now i just need to get a droper character design sorted out and got some art and emotes but that's gonna take a while

all i have is this model and my pinterest board, there's more things i need to try and add to it myself like stars on the shoulders and collarbones, stuff to the eyes if i can figure it out, and maybe change up some clothes but i have no faith in my abilities

[hollow scroll]

i always wonder if going down the furry route for me is what i want, but i also dont like the idea of doing a human based one, could always go star wars but then disney go haha and that probably wont end well

[zealous mortar]

ooooo stars would be cute af!!

[atomic ridge]

i need to install something and see if i can find some nice brushes, i don't think it would work putting the files on my ipad for procreate so i just need to hope for the best with my mouse

there's some artists with it offering to do some stuff to help people out but i feel too bad to ask, i've just watched them do stuff so i have a general idea

[hollow scroll]

kinda tempted to drop the vtuber for a while and see if i actually enjoy streaming properly before i commit to something, itll be less tiring for me too id imagine if im only having to focus on talking and nothing else

[zealous mortar]

I've been thinking for a while and it could be fun to stream but I think I might just stick with making stuff - I would love to eventually make my own suit and maybe do partials one day

and retexturing models because It's really fun to do

[atomic ridge]

you could even do muted art streams if you really wanted to in the future! i've watched quite a few of those, just with some chill lofi music people really love relaxing and working with them on

[zealous mortar]

I could but I get really anxious when I know people are watching me draw

[atomic ridge]

that's valid! it does sound scary

[hollow scroll]

streaming is hard and is a different content creation to making videos

so its not for everyone and im wondering if its not for me

[vagrant lily]

Hardest part for me. How to keep the flow (Chat/interaction with viewers)

Imagine freezing moments when you just cannot say anything.

[atomic ridge]

it is really hard, completely different vibe doing everything live, trying to stay entertaining, keeping up with chat, making sure nothing goes wrong

[hollow scroll]

you are an entertainer for hours at a time, not just recording and cutting/editing it

[atomic ridge]

last stream my pc decided it just wouldnt work for games and then go many people left once i said i can't play that one... it hurt

should be okay now i've reset everything, cpu usage is looking a lot better but i'm still worried about trying any intensive games now

[hollow scroll]

i got off last stream and just got panicky and had no energy to try again for like the past week

i need to try and find content for youtube to do

[atomic ridge]

energy is a really hard thing to manage too, after stream ends i dont touch my phone or anything and just go to bed

i still need to try and make clips out of things but i don't want to sit through hours trying to find something i can work with

no energy...

[hollow scroll]

problem is, war thunder has so many unique video ideas idk if i can come up with my own interesting one... may just have to try and copy others fro now

"copy" but make it my own

god i hate idea generation, i tried to ask AI and it told me to make a video on a vehicle that literally doesnt exist irl or in game and it tried gaslighting me 😭

[marble mortar]

worth streaming with no model or camera, just to encourage you to play?

Then use the stream to cut it into highlights

Or just play and make content, whatever is more fun for you!

[raven nymph]

if you need someone to rig a personalized version of this model for you, I'll do it for free for you! Just to let 'ya know! :D

[atomic ridge]

Ahhh thank you! Sorry I'm late to reply, just finished stream

[golden wolf]

autofister is the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxdPONkwQJA

[golden wolf]

cute cute. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u1wUABc8vdE

[fathom marsh]

Looks very nice

[inner hinge]

wait i forgot what's a vtuber

[vagrant lily]

An online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar.

[inner hinge]

Oh alright thanks man

[vagrant lily]

It is also good for a privacy: Instead of using your own face you use an avatar.

[inner hinge]

I see

[golden wolf]

sooooo cute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWVXrG2OMOM

[atomic ridge]

I streamed for just under 8hrs last night and how do people do this daily?? They typically start at better hours than me and usually get more than 4 1/2hrs sleep i would hope but woah that was something... I'm glad I'm a vtuber since by the end of it i was nearly falling asleep in my chair

Now I just need to hope people don't expect these hours from me more often, I'm exhausted which might just be from lack of sleep but I'm sure the constant yapping will get to me soon my throat is already sore

[hollow scroll]

i feel dead after 1.5

[atomic ridge]

Hoyo story updates are just getting longer and longer... my plan was to split it between 2 but I was stubborn and it look longer than I thought anyway since I couldn't just quickly read and skip through it all

[atomic ridge]

okay yeah 8hrs suck... i want to see if i can make a clip out of some stuff but i have so much to get through just to find these small moments i didn't think about it at the time so i have no markers

[marble mortar]

Work with the hours you've got, but also it's important to set breaks and expectations, you don't need to do more than XYZ just because others do, you're in control of how many hours you stream ✨

[atomic ridge]

Getting closer to looking how I want! Someone made these amazing shorts so I have an outfit closer to what I imagined, I just need to change the eyes when I feel confident with it and maybe add a pattern to the top? If I'm brave enough I'll draw more things on

[zealous mortar]

Slay honestly

[atomic ridge]

So slay

ohhh since this is going to be my main outfit now i could change so much

saw the other one and wow it looked boring people liked it at least

[zealous mortar]

It was still pretty tho :3

[atomic ridge]

it was! i spent so many hours on this one i need to show off all my hard work

[zealous mortar]

I'm still waiting to see if anyone does some shorts/bottoms for the Vulper I have a cute top but my bottom have is nakey

[atomic ridge]

started at 3 and finished at 8 oops

[zealous mortar]

It looks really good!

[atomic ridge]

yeah people really need to make some cute stuff for the vulper!

[zealous mortar]

Tbh I haven't checked, I should do that

[atomic ridge]

mine might need to stay nakey if there's anything cute, all my money is gonna go on art

i need emotes so badly, i have two artists i'm looking at i just need the money for it

[zealous mortar]

Yeah that's fair

I think I've found something but I can't have too many polys because my hair is a lot and I don't think the top I currently have is that optimised

[atomic ridge]

naurrrr

[atomic ridge]

my teefs glow

[raven nymph]

omgg!!! :O

do you even need your own personalized model at this point, the customizable model looks astounding!

[atomic ridge]

i'm starting to think i won't need to get one unless i want something super specific but i don't need to worry about that for a long time it's amazing!

i'm going to end up changing things alot as i go too, i can have as many hairstyles and outfits as i want

[raven nymph]

I could still help with a VRChat version if you need it! I can easily make a really accurate VRChat model of her :3

[atomic ridge]

ohhh that'll be amazing, thank you! i'm not sure when i would need one but i'll definitely let you know if i do

[zealous mortar]

[raven nymph]

np! Looking forward to making her 3D whenever you need me to!

[raven nymph]

me fr

[atomic ridge]

i kinda hope that at some point i can get a emote for me and my future mascot

already got the mascot plan i just need to either figure out drawing it up or saving up for an artist which might be a better idea cause then they can tell me if it looks silly

[raven nymph]

what's your plan? I'd love to hear it!

[atomic ridge]

a galaxy fox with constellations on the backs of the ears, stars on the tail and maybe some subtle sparkles across all the fur to be like star dust but i don't know if it would be too much

everyone i know has really simple ones and i probably want too much...

[raven nymph]

I don't have a channel mascot pet thing really, probably because Idk how to make an idea for it that looks good, but I think your idea is AMAZING!

[atomic ridge]

ideas are so hard

i've always wanted one and i've planned for so long it's just actually making it come to life that's the difficult part... i could probably draw that myself but rendering i have no clue and i want it to look good

[raven nymph]

so true
maybe you could help me out with an idea for MY channel mascot? You seem to have amazing ideas for your own :3

[atomic ridge]

ohhh yes i can cook up some ideas!

[raven nymph]

yippee!!

[atomic ridge]

i love the planning a little too much

[raven nymph]

so real

my character looks like this, so yeah!
I think what I'd like is some sorta cat/unicorn hybrid as her pet

[atomic ridge]

omg a caticorn would be perfect

[raven nymph]

fr!!!

[raven nymph]

I do have a version of that pet I drew in the past but I believe it could look even better

this is Mysti :3 my non-canon version of my OC's pet :3

[atomic ridge]

aww they're so cute!!!

i can picture them having some of those tiny little cartoonish wings too that serve no purpose other than looking adorable

[zealous mortar]

That is so sweet

[raven nymph]

d'aww yeah! take your time to come up with a better idea for Mysti :3

[raven nymph]

Mysti 2.0!! Omg I love how she turned out

[atomic ridge]

she looks amazing!!!

[slender jay]

Anyone happen to know someone who makes pngtubers

[sour lodge]

Hey

Don’t send discord server links

[atomic ridge]

depends on the kinda style you're looking for, i've seen a few artists i follow make them but vgen is always a great place to find what you want!

[flint glade]

Wsg nerds

[somber bridge]

not nice

[atomic ridge]

i finally braved making my edits and it came out so well! got my galaxy eyes and the freckles as actual stars, it wasn't as scary as i thought i'm just considering if i should add the stars to the collar bones or not..

[chilly dust]

nice

[atomic ridge]

forgot to send a close up!

[vagrant lily]

I see the full universe in your eyes ✨

[raven nymph]

CUTE! You def don't need your own custom model now, this one's perfect!

[atomic ridge]

Yeah! Now I understand what I'm doing it's fine, I'll get around to the clothes eventually but someone keeps making new stuff for us to use so I'll see if there's anything else she makes that'll fit

[vagrant lily]

An online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar.

It is also good for a privacy: Instead of using your own face you use an avatar.

Tip: Internet exists

[atomic ridge]

someone let me know there's constellation stamps 👀 now she's perfect

now i'm ready to start commissioning people when i have the money first emotes and then an icon i'm so excited

[main quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-yikes-meow-gif-10078311062300963543

[golden wolf]

ok... Hololive Kronii's Massage Therapy session when and when can I book my appointment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW201i-twlM

[raven nymph]

you say this all the time... you should at least remember by now

[vagrant lily]

Are you trolling?

You can always search earlier answers or use the internet as a source.

[raven nymph]

yeah they're def trolling

yeah right, and I'm not a vtuber

not the channel for memes

okay yeah goodbye

[vagrant lily]

An online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar.

It is also good for a privacy: Instead of using your own face you use an avatar.

Tip: Internet exists

[raven nymph]

dude

I'm not gonna humor a troll

[raven nymph]

I don't think you should've given them a response tbh... just satisfies the troll's wishes

[marble mortar]

Please just get along in this server, if you keep asking over and over people will call you out, it becomes a bit of a pain!

So please just move on from it and don't ask again.

[raven nymph]

I'm not a dude, contrary to popular belief about vtubers

[marble mortar]

And gone ^^

[raven nymph]

yeahh

I knew it would end this way

[golden wolf]

so precious. also this winter artwork, me a while ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhHCVaXoDU

[gusty basalt]

some nice results i got using stb1:
https://youtu.be/jxRS9WhhoEY

[opaque dragon]

vtubing world best wish!!!

[patent ivy]

what’s a vtuber world?

[raven nymph]

a VTuber is a streamer who uses a virtual facial tracking avatar instead of their real face in their content :3

[patent ivy]

why hide their face tho?

[raven nymph]

identity protection

[patent ivy]

then just be a faceless a youtuber

i don’t wanna argue tho

jus a quick question

[raven nymph]

some people either don't like how they look or don't want their face plastered all over the internet

[raven nymph]

VTubers are more appealing and entertaining

[patent ivy]

ngl im ugly af so id see why they’d do so

[raven nymph]

they're completely customizable and most of them now a days have amazing rigging so tracking is SUPER accurate

[raven nymph]

I doubt you're that ugly if ugly at all, but yeah it's more personal preference

some people like to be a faceless youtuber, some like vtuber models, while some use their real life face instead

[marble mortar]

It's also just for fun, some like to have crazy cool characters and roleplay as that.

[atomic ridge]

You can be some really cool characters! A lot of vtubers stay faceless but I've seen a lot that occasionally share their face or there's others that originally streamed with a face cam and wanted to try something new!

[raven nymph]

I plan to do a reveal when I reach the sub requirement for a silver plaque :3 it's a LONG ways away so I'm not worried one bit

[atomic ridge]

ohhh that's really cool!

MY EMOTES ARE DONE

[vagrant lily]

Amazing
Looking super nice

[atomic ridge]

I love it so much, I'll be getting more from them when I'm done! Just waiting on the animated ones from another artist then I'll be back for more from them too

[marble mortar]

So good!

[raven nymph]

EMOTESS!!!!

[atomic ridge]

i want more already

[hollow scroll]

I need to commission some Cody ones but idk who to go for as a helmet isn’t easy to do expressions with

Might ask the person who did my new pfp

[raven nymph]

just finished a new model outfit for my friend! They're gonna do an outfit reveal later today :3

[vagrant lily]

Amazing
Sounds very nice :3

[raven nymph]

and now that I'm done I get to cuddle with my kitty :3

[atomic ridge]

oooh yippee!

[golden wolf]

A licky Moco gif. Yes please

[zealous mortar]

A vtuber

[flint glade]

Wsp nerds

[red arch]

For reaalll 😭

[atomic ridge]

If you mean that vtuber in particular, she's a dog girl it's not that weird

[raven nymph]

bruh there's no need to be rude about it

geez -_-

[atomic ridge]

^this

people liked the cat/dog ear toggles so i've just recoloured them and made it slightly transparent so it's like they're magic rather than being the hair colour

[marble mortar]

Very cool effect

[raven nymph]

PFF
https://youtube.com/shorts/8GgAaf2KRXU?si=K0Yel9glpMLrNzy_

that's THE perfect place to put literally ANY cardboard standee

[obtuse lagoon]

What is a vtube?

[obtuse lagoon]

I hate my mind💀💀

[marble mortar]

This #💖┃vtubing message

[next creek]

potatoplays (ID 838076313628966933)

[Message](#💖┃vtubing message) in #💖┃vtubing
a VTuber is a streamer who uses a virtual facial tracking avatar instead of their real face in their content :3

Command (Normal) triggered by naturo. Message from · Mar 23, 2025, 2:54 AM

[obtuse lagoon]

Bruh

Vtubing

#💖┃vtubing

[hollow scroll]

Another day another “what is a vtuber”

[obtuse lagoon]

Why

[marble mortar]

it is what it is

[cursive shore]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[golden wolf]

How so?

[hollow shard]

Zo

[raven nymph]

why do so many people just refuse to use google

[golden wolf]

If I were to get Rick rolled, it would be this version. OH MY…GOODNESS. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdWgtp_fFs&pp=0gcJCa8AFFPMqEg1

[obtuse lagoon]

Cuz that gif u sent, it tricked my mind into thinking that she sukin -***

[golden wolf]

Can see that with the tongue. Oh my.

[obtuse lagoon]

Lmao

[slender jay]

We should just have a command that just automatically types what a vtuber is if someone asks the question

[zealous mortar]

Idk why people don't use Google

[vagrant lily]

Logical thinking

[deft cloak]

Googling takes effort, they have to open a new tab in their browser. /sarc lol 🙃 :3

[zealous mortar]

Real

[slender jay]

My god what did I do

I keep getting notifications

[cursive gorge]

Also with crappy AI Gemini being shoved up your face and it's seriously unreliable

[slender jay]

Oh that’s where the notifications are coming from

Cool

[zealous mortar]

Yeah it's a summary but it's not always correct which is why people need to do the work themselves

And it's not hard either lol

[atomic ridge]

Okay yeah i just looked at the summary for vtuber and it's way off.. calling it a "computer generated avatar" just dismisses how much work artists put in

That's coming off the Wikipedia page as well... like yeah it kinda is but it's different to that especially since 2d is the most common and is all hand drawn, I even know someone who uses 3d and has spent so much time making theirs from scratch and is still working on it

[deft cloak]

.... I think what they mean to say is that what you're seeing is being rendered based on some specifications (the model file and the software) rather than coming directly from a camera (aside from the precessing necessary to display it), but the way it's phrased is absolutely horrendous if that is the intent... 🙃 :/

[atomic ridge]

Yeah it's what they're aiming for but it makes it sound terrible and that's what I really don't like about it, there's so much soul in vtubing and it just makes it sounds so empty

[hollow scroll]

computer generated is a standardised term for art thats final outcome is somehow involved with a computer

you have to draw it on a computer of sorts so it is the correct term, this was what i learned in my media courses about computer generation

at leat i tihnk

[deft cloak]

well it's not something an average person is going to understand. And it's the first line on the page.

A VTuber or virtual YouTuber is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics.
— Wikipedia: VTuber

[hollow scroll]

thatsd not the fault of it, its the fault of AI using that term

[deft cloak]

wut?

[deft cloak]

this^ is taken direct from wikipedia

[atomic ridge]

Even the vtuber wiki uses it as the term it's not just the AI but when people Google it they still won't really understand what a vtuber is

[hollow scroll]

because id always known computer generated as any art involved with a computer, but becasu ai takes part of that people assume AI, when its not

is this not what it is?

this is correct though?

the word created may suit it better but it still is right

[deft cloak]

rendered

[hollow scroll]

i dont think it counts as rendering in technicalities

[deft cloak]

Rendering is the process of generating a photorealistic or non-photorealistic image from input data such as 3D models. The word "rendering" (in one of its senses) originally meant the task performed by an artist when depicting a real or imaginary thing (the finished artwork is also called a "rendering"). Today, to "render" commonly means to generate an image or video from a precise description (often created by an artist) using a computer program.
Wikipedia: Rendering (computer graphics)

[hollow scroll]

ok i cannot find a consistent definition of rendererd as nobody can agree as some say its only from a form of code or data input but some say its just creating a visual representation

[atomic ridge]

technically it is yes, but like Ruby said new people won't understand, it just reads as something soulless and with the amount of AI models appearing everywhere people will probably associate it with AI to when vtubing us built on artists, it doesn't sit right with me

Rendered is already sounding so much better

[hollow scroll]

but like

just because it says generated by a computer it doesnt mean no work is done and a lot of people understand that, but AI has decided to take over the term when technically AI isnt even "computer generated"

[deft cloak]

and how many people don't understand that? probably a lot more...

[hollow scroll]

all forms of video media edited with a computer are computer generated

[hollow scroll]

the ones likely to not google

gemini's answer is better than the wiki how

[deft cloak]

more than just them...

[atomic ridge]

The thing is, the vtubing community wants NOTHING to do with AI, we can be against the wording here and I doubt anyone googling will look at the expanded summary

[deft cloak]

"but not all use AI to create them".... ??? that implies that there's a lot that are generated with AI...

[hollow scroll]

it doesnt imply that

[deft cloak]

yes, it does.

[hollow scroll]

and i think youd be surprised, there are definitely a decent few ai gen ones (sadly)

i mean

[atomic ridge]

I didn't see that, that really makes it seem like that's common and the only time I've seen that people have AI is when they didn't know, they get told and feel so bad and if they do purposely use it then they aren't really part of the community

[hollow scroll]

i mean

as sucky as it is

its more than we all think

problem is, people see high price and go oh i cba to pay that ill just get AI... a lot of people have this mindset

[deft cloak]

are they even remotely popular..? is there even a notable number of them? more than "oh, yeah. a few happen to exist."?

[atomic ridge]

Then they're not vtubers, there's budget options out there

[hollow scroll]

by definition they sadly would be

[atomic ridge]

I haven't seen any, I've been in this community for years

So maybe it's best not to just assume

[hollow scroll]

vtuber itself, the term means virtual youtuber, it doesnt mention how it comes to creation and there isnt a rule

[atomic ridge]

Every AI model I've seen has been a scam, they're all stolen designs as well

[hollow scroll]

yeah the designs always are

im not saying they ethically are correct

i fucking hate them

[deft cloak]

anyway.. Pluto, why are you defending this so hard?

[hollow scroll]

im not ruby

ive said many times i hate it

[atomic ridge]

I don't know why you need to argue me on this when I've been in the vtubing community for years, there still are rules to it and it's all centered around our artists

[hollow scroll]

i was solely on about how i dont agree with the term computer generated meaning artists havent worked

i wasnt trying to argue

im sorry if it came across like that

[deft cloak]

seemed like it.. 'rendered' would come across so much more clearly and would probably be straight up better than "generated"...

[hollow scroll]

my interpretation was that the vtubing community is different to the general term vtuber

i may be wrong

[hollow scroll]

i mean yeah it could be, but i cant remember how wiki works and if it needs to be 100% dictionary accurate or something