#codm-gunsmith-help
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For me I’ve been loving it
Was my easiest diamond grind gun
How do I send pics in this server it’s not allowing me to
Mastery

The WHAT
base weapon no attachments
its very gud

Why people use rytec thermite/explosive mag in BR even tho it decrease ads time by alot and normal mag is enough to 1shot kill
thermite can damage through vehicles and has a very high headshot multiplier that is capable of downing a fully armored player
Anybody got a good KN44 build?
Ya
I don't got a photo
But here are the attachments
@rich arch
Ranger barrel
No stock
Tack laser
Fast mag
And strike
it was almost good
strike foregrip just completely destroyed it
use something else like monolithic suppressor
Cuz I like anti everything gun
It isn't useless
The downsides are uhhh
you abuse strafe and you say it's not useless :(
Can this mag destroy vehicals easily or do I have to go for thermite?
downside just take away 15% strafe
16%
pain
Cuz 1% mobility

I always sacrificed strafe when I was new to game

yes
but thermite mag is bugged
Thank you
Well explosions everywhere it is
you can destroy uav by shooting 2 time with thermite mag and earn 200 points for destroying one uav
I abused it in domination for easy scorestreaks months ago

Noice

why would you use persistence when you have rytec thermite mag and decoy grenade lol
Recoil and a bit bsa
It's the downsides that are a problem
That attachment is not worth adding
for bsa just use gran
recoil... skill issue or pull down
Shhhh let em abuse their persistence

yes I actually prefer persistence opponents nowadays rather than non persistence cluster strike
Non persistence cluster is scary
persistence just use once, non persi spam cluster strike every hp
They do something that's called teamwork
Non persistence cluster strike that's what I do
I mean one good user getting cluster strike every hp
Not often but I do 
uav, orbital laser, cluster strike
That's just a good player
Persi or not doesn't matter
do it to bully persistence users
non persistence 5 stack is my nightmare
Basically you fear skilled opponents?
Drone > advanced > uav
nothing like me using care package, lightning strike, and orbital laser
since when did persistence = skill
perhaps, non persistence 5 stacks are mostly lb players according to my experience.
Good scorestreaks combo if I go for a nuke run
Those who can rack CLuster Strikes (aka a 8 - 10 streak) without persistence are definitely skilled
uav counter uav advance uav..
Someone give me an na loadout
Wait
Fuck
These bozos in snd arent fun
a sec
Just got destroyed by it so ima try it
Im already over 9k at this point im playing for fun

Yes but sometimes you need bigger scorestreaks if you know you can get em lol
Usually i go for UAV, shock RC, and advanced UAV when on nuke run
just add flat jacket perk, na will shoot marshmallows against you
I do have flak
it's good too but rc ruined my streak everytime
The story changes when there are 2 and they are mic'd up
LMAO
2 na
I did it when opponents spam katana with a friend
2 of them rage quit
Its so annoying because flak just becomrs obsolete 
play respawns
pretend like persistence doesn't exist you'll be fine
And payout idk if thats still there but i dont have it
payout..
May try to do a kilo bolt leaderboard run
when you use na it's better to have mw11 or something to finish off
Ye im using mw11 because 3 shot potential

Don't you guys like the shorty?
the nerf made it shoot marshmallows
why shorty when you have akimbo or katana
Now i gotta wait for hardcore to get gold
@quaint granite when its first release, the shorty dominates
mx9 flashbacks
not really
More fun tho 
Ah good old days back in s1 or 2 when type was meta
they all miss many shots anyway with t25
Ak117 dominated back then too
Ppsh is good though right?
ak117 still good 
Ppsh is alr ig
I want to use cbr with red dot just because but red dot sens is weird
PPsH: Has Recoil but faster fire rate
P90: Slow fire rate but no recoil
The problem in the ppsh is the recoil pattern
but keep on mind they takes skill
It has a zigzag pattern
Kilo 
There is a holo/red dot setting
Kilo 141 best speed
you need to recoil kinda hard pattern
If you can master it, it probably do better than cbr4
You can make that a lmg
Yea but even tho theyre the same its still weird
Not for me cuz I make all 300
Kilo 141 lmg is just... no 
buy mythic skin and get free red dot ironsight 
Like seriously distance Acceleration and all scopes and firing sensitivity 300
that's too high
Not for me
Idk the difference between the accelerations ngl
Hmmm
Dk what speed does but i have it on
kinda bad expect for wallbang
Also dont know what distance accel is either
I heard Distance Acceleration is the worst one
try testing them in training ground
But idk why
and vs ai
I heard that the ppsh will have a buff next season
:/
Nah
it's already good if its in good player's hand
The recoil will got a more stable
maybe even mini mx9 pre nerf
just use it more, it's pure skill issue
I love how they released guns with super fast ttk this season but all of them take skill
I love that gun. I grind my ppsh in diamond in 2 days
unlike m13 
I hope the ppsh bp has their iron sight adjusted
I still don’t have kilo 141 gold lmao
kilo have horrible vertical and horizontal recoil after few shots
Yea but its fun
I never use the epic blueprint of ppsh
Tact scope/classic holo sight on bp ppsh looks cool tbh
yes that's what keeping it balanced
The ironsight is bad
If they buff kilo's recoil it's just another m13..
Its a 4 tap to at least 40 so the first few shots is all u need
I just stop shooting once the recoil goes crazy
The default is better than the bp for now
yessir, that's how you use it and people still complain
I hope they put another epic ppsh with good ironsight
Ye since i use tap to ads its not like i need to wait to ads again 
there is a leggy one that is more clean
But default still good
But it is so expensive
Just get lucky
leggy is almost same as default but a little better
For now either normal for iron sight or bp with holo sights
It is a lot cleaner ironsight than the default
bp one is good for me
For me default is better
although it's not clean, it make me feel like aimbot
If u can use lk and type irons u can use any irons
I used type iron
Me but not for PPsH’s bp iron sight
until I found out red dot is satisfying on t25
Imma go sleep cuz school gn
Gn
but horseman skin have really clean ironsight
Bye y’all
I think they need to buff the ar's
Red dot on type is just clean
Nah
The recoil feels nonexistent
no just remove persistence from game, everything else fine
No wtf
yes
what's wrong ://
Sub out persistence for overclock!? Good idea no?
I don't mind overclock
Maybe.
Or i mean
You just let those people kill you and enemies so they can spam smh
I feel dumb
they gonna get killed after using operator
That’s skill issue
The best operator for me is kinetic
... my team totally survive with 1000 kd
Nah cuz “balancing”
0.1000
I use kinetic only because i always get myself killed with sparrow
I use kinetic like for actual emergencies
clear hp in few seconds
The sheer amount of trophies and some cheeky bastards put it in places thatll kill u
Like if imma get ganged up
I play a bit passive with Sparrow
gn
And I use Ballistic shield with Fennec 
ballistic is good for obj players
Good for hardcore obj, you can clear within seconds
Or even just thumper or fhj
What do you think is the best sniper except the dlq?
you can't kill them easily if they're on corner with trophy system
bullcharge need buff
Xpr and svd are snipers i use for fun
it's trash
Use trophy lol
It got nerf
you can easily dodge as well
bull charge is just worse katana
with katana you can slide and swing, dodge them
The dogs can handle can handle that
Dogs health nerf? Make so snipers one shot like it logically should
What kinda dog can survive two sniper shots to the face 
one sniper shoot then pull out your secondary
Dogs are the most annoying
why
dogs are also in worst list for me
If you have a bad accuracy. Your dead as f*ck
I dont have bad accuracy
One BY15 shot kills em
But the fact that u cant outrun em is what makes it annoying
having dog kill you through wall is ping issues
Two
Considering you're in the perfect range
That shotgun is underrated
We need a leggy shotgun that is 1 tap
Master that one and it's potential is huge also has the most range of all shotguns
It is good for camping like vacant
Vacant snd is a hate crime
That's were the katana will come out
Those everyone remember the sam turret?
🚮
Ive just been pulling out snipers on that map
yes
Its either hit ur shot or get killed
you have two options sniper or as val/t25
Na45 😭
Teammates getting obliterated by it
That gun is hard to aim
yes
And the ads is so slow.
I wanted people who cry for na45 use it to see how hard it is actually
If you miss a shot you're dead
there's no second chance and have to reload after
When you hear an na. My teammates got mad already
Na usually used when it is crucial like snd
when I use na I have to switch gun if opponent use trophy system or flat jacket
Its useless if the enemy have that
yeah always hitmarker
Im tempted to use deagles on my na just because i got the leggy for it
noo
I have an uncanny amount of deagle skins 
um then just stack range on deagle
If the enemy uses na. Usually i get my echo and spammed them to death
you can use it as primary
sniping works as well
na suck in long range with terrible recoil and having to two shot
meanwhile you can just one tap them with dlq
Just have a trophy beside you and your good
Na at close range is where its good
dodge by jumping
just force them to shoot it
if they shoot once they'll need to reload for next
jumps into explosion
take down them in 1 second
The longer the bomb land. The larger the range its explode
Huh
Nvm
Not even goin cap witcha, that was dumb
Dw i understand
It was pure snd
I also happen to have type 25 mastered for no apparent reason 
My most used is still kilo 141
picking up from others cuz no ammo and snd
@quaint granite
Ak117 bud
build either buddy
The Word is
@maiden briar
Hmmmm
Ok,we're gonna call you price
is dis gud
Bud gud
I used smg with strafe too much, can't resist to add strafe
It's an mp build right
Call u price
yes

probably snd
Are my teammates dying to a camping sniper
strafe abooz appeared
Then use mono instead of tac,owc,mip light and no stock
They abuse katana in snd nowadays
Everyone does
why do u bully my bsa
And I hate it
I abuse na nowadays
SnD
Snipers with katana
no
Dying to a camper more than 2 times is skill issue
I can say this about more than 1 time but 2 times is just noob
katana as primary, dlq as secondary
Of course
More that 2 is a lot
I usually change routs after dying
It's common in legendary, most people just look after revenge cuz they're mad and they keep peeking/going location just to die
I don't,learned that the hard way
Favorite snd map?
terminal maybe standoff
Crash is the most toxic one
I hate it as well but somehow dropped 20 kills in crossfire
They often plant A and Rush with katana
Also tripmines
A lot of NA users are there
na45... best solution
Anybody got a RPD build
What are u talking bout mate
Ur lucky
They use it at first but switch gun after getting no kill at all with na
Can't rammer the attachments
place trophy system they're deaddd
I use spr and dlq
If not the p90
dlq is perfect for crossfire
I use spr
Mk2 > spr
Can someone type this name n ping me pls
Cbr4 build suggestions ? 😶 for respawns
Mono
Ext barrel
Light stock
Tac laser
Gran/rubberized
Mono , ext barrel , disabled , owc tac laser and gran
あはなかたら
Hey so I need headshot builds for the Kilo Bolt-Action, SP-R 208, And MK2. I would really appreciate it please
just fucking aim on their head
the fuck
disable cbr and no light stock
light stock, mono, ext light barrel, gran, tac laser
Thanks
I know that Habibi but I know there are good builds for it
no there aren't
Hmmm
Gotta say I’m impressed, I didn’t know you could get worse than base accuracy and control
no way it's a bar stats kid 😱
@rich arch wdym
Yeah cause I never understood what all the recoil and ads stuff meant until like a week ago lol

Should I go with stopping power or thermite or none on the kilo (still fo headshots)
For 2 domination high-rise up can get long shots and headshots
And put a scope on it
Alrighty I’ll try that
Hmm
It worked 4 me
Ok just tried it. I had a hard time with the longshots cause the pieces of the map were in the way, but I’m marking it down for my headshots for other guns cause it’ll be great for that. Thank you very much
Can somebody suggest me a good setting
Just stay at ur spawn and head glitch the opponents spawn ,ull get long shots
Silencer barrel or mono on kilo 141
Alrighty, I’ll try that next time (never thought about headglitching), right now it’s late. So again thank you
mono
Aight

Guys is there any use to the XPR50? Sonce its a slow moving and slow adsing 2 shot its worse than both the SVD and SKS right?
Gotta get office side tbh
Office side on highrise best side for longshots and headshots
Counter side is good but its cover isnt as good
Crossfire high side is best. Do all my longshots there and sniper headshots.
Crossfire frontline.
Crossfire is a pain in the ass because others also have the same idea
Hmmm
Its either a bot lobby, ppl who are grinding camos, or pub warriors
@maiden briar hello
Sks build ? 😶
.s
Anyone got a swordfish with disable, halberd and reddot?
Base mag's better for mp imo and u can swap mag/strippled to red dot
Thanks. Lost so many points in ranked i gave up. Playing around with random guns now.
Np, playing with random weapons is really fun
I've been goofying around with the worst weapons statswise in ranked this season as well. Was a bit surprised by some guns, feels underrated
bruh i can't hit 100m shot without scope
iron sight sucks with rose in hand blueprint
Mp build?
yes
Hows the M16 compared to the Swordfish?
Slightly inferior imo
Ok.
Best Striker Build for BR?
anyone have CR-56 attachment?
Hmm
That but use granulated grip instead of intruder stock
Does that skin have a custom iron sight?
U guys use amax?
any dl q33 gunsmith?
Anyone got a kilo 141 gunsmith?
Do ads build
Stack ads but not laser on all snipers.
Marksman, no stock, disabled, tact laser, mag
Hmm
Seems good
Can take out disabled for stippled
No
I am currently using rytec, wanna check out how good of a sniper that is
Marksman to mono
It's really good
It's bad
End of sentence
Marksman for ppl who can't control reekoil.
its bad in mp but the best sniper in br
I use integral lol
Nah,I use dr-h but gonna switch to kilo soon
Rytec isn't that bad 
It's not the best in br tho.
Yh ikr
it has high damage but has some flinch
yeah but compared other snipers like dlq and locus its bad
I am using the rytec which I got from this season's bp coz rytec Revatti seems no diff than the default
What do you guys think about outlaw?
Hitmarker
Forget it
I literally shot upper chest like count less times at like long ranges and man... hitmarker
scope is the only difference, looks kind of alike to mythic scope
But its a killer at decent range
yea
@mighty acorn 
I dont see PPL using that mythic lmao
it will look great with a grindable camo over it
Rytec
I just saw someone use it today
Nuke with chicom, nice
i only saw it once, in br, it was the day after the skins release
Congrats on getting it to master
Yh
They just buy these mythics and let it collect dust
the skin is really good tho, if the player is br (p2p) main, also a sniper user then that skin is something they might look out for
i personally prefer the dlq in br, its really amazing
also because i got the christmas dlq skin in my first draw
yea
i only had 5 cp left on my account and didnt know what to spend it on and when the redux came and got a discount i spent it on the lucky draw
Hi everyone what the best m4 attachment for mp?
It's bad in mp
But if you really want one, I don't have it 
Then don't use a scope
Ah ok so thanks. Hahahaha
Has there been any changes to M4 in recent patches?
idk if this is good but use this,
mono, no stock, gran, tac laser, marksman,
this build might not be good but who cares anyways since it is the m4
also short barrel might work
if not then 1.Tac laser 2.Granulated 4. No stock 4. Integral suppressor /mono 5.Ex mag
use this one
idk about M4s stats
Whats the latest weapons that have been released?
A red dot could do
So thanks everyone
Jak12
ahh
is that a shotgun?
So they're not stopping with the 2 weapons per season?
Full auto sg
yes
What's wrong with that
games longevity decreases gradually
ok
can't have 300 weapons in a mobile Fps
This is something that is often talked about but never reaches anywhere
The game won't last that long
New codm is coming
yes , I haven't been active overall and not much interested in what's going on
The new codm still coming in march ig
release date comfirmed?
Dang, that was fast. Grats 
Thanks
Why can't I find you on lb
I saw you
I'm on streamer mode
Some ppl recognized in ranked as chicom guy, so i had to use a disguise

Nope
It has the worst recoil in ar’s
But skill issue

This is me with 30 seconds of practice and a max recoil ak
30 WHOLE SECONDS
And i just switched phone so im not used to the sens yet
And the guy wasnt even using 5.45


Skill issue
Forget that
Ok, so do u have any chicom name suggestions?
ShhICome
I think ShhCome would be better
intense thinking
Nah ShhICome is better
That name was yoinked from Noah
He has mastery?
I forgot to think up a name for my M13.
Nah, he was just pronouncing diff guns in a funny way
In a stream?
Or a vid
05式微声冲锋枪
Vid, u can search it up
Use real name
Do randoms in ranked remember ppl's streamer tags?

global isn't garena is
I would 
Global lb isn't working properly
That's a interesting name
Wait, wrong one
shotgun take skill to use seriously,it is a mid range melee
he mean the xs1???
Stalker
That would be me if I matched up against u
Thats goliath
I just don't know ur streamer tag
Nothing related to do with what he said
Thats good
I'm gm5
I think we are in the same region
I get in random servers, its weird
Its either ME, Ind or Jap servers, totally random
I will get lucky one day

Is the chicom actually good or do people use it just because its easy to get on LB?
Mines at lvl2. Not gonna waste 400 xp cards.
I went to use to improve my aim and it turns out the gun is actually very good in cq
Its the strafe
Imagine chicom with same strafe speed as pkm
Strafe go →←→← with the chicom 
@mighty acorn

Garena build
It needs to have hip fire attachments as well. SMH my head
Hipfire attachments r temporarily disabled by the disable perk
I've taken a liking to this cursed build for some reason
@mighty acorn
This is fun to run with
Damn 24k pumpkin 🥶
When u got aimbot, u dont need to strafe
Literally just pull down and let aim assist work for you 
I stopped using it after getting mastery for ul but it was a fun run
4 hours :critical_condition:

Also KRM most used 
Was doing mastery for all sgs/marksmans this season
I see
Just the sks and spr left for marksmans and r90, echo and hs0 left for sgs
The sks is my only master marksman 
YES
krm 
Sks is very fun to run with, just spam
Yep
everyone using disable perk
Yes 🤝 
ppl are abusing with ded silence and skulker
I run disable on every ar/lmg now, even hvk
🛌
Its too good
damn
Disable is an auto include on every AR and LMG I use
I should use it too 
Easy beams
Disable is pretty much soft aimbot
Hmm
disable on shotgun 
can someone rate my gunsmith for type 25:
steady stock, red dot (no p2w skin 😭), stopping power, tac laser, mono surpressor
steady stock to light stock
42 round over SP imo
Swap steady stock to disable perk and stopping power to 42 rnd mag, rest seems good
alright thanks
oh yea disable 
Np
Also the T25 doesn't need an RDS imo, if you can switch it out for disable
I hope it gets a nerf
Though RDS is fine
same thing with persistentce
Ye, some ppl aren't comfortable with base irons but light stock would be a decent choice instead of rds
you hope that the only solution for melee abusers gets nerfed?
New meta when 
huh?
Dont wait for new meta, use anything u want
Kilo bolt in ranked 🥶
buff akimbo fennec and bring back season 11 lmao
Did it earlier this season
I have 1 mastery and 5 gold. Thats enough.
it's beri fun 
hg40 
i am scared to ask why is there hg40 in there
Hg40 aint too bad tbh, its alright
Daamn 🥶
hbr 
Damnn you have no life
Someone gimme a chicom.
thanks
How did you push through when you have a 26℅ winrate? I'd just give up 
Thanks
Np
Idc about wins this season, just frag out n chill while grinding mastery
E
I'm too busy being a ranked warrior for that 
Lobbies been pretty hard tho after i got to 10k+
Same, og vibes
I don't have the series 4 banner 
I was 1.2k points short during Series 4
U just didn't play much
Lol id have liked to get there. Went from needing 38 points straight down into protection.
Ngl, i did get PTSD from some ranked games cuz of this
Nope. Gave up. Cant keep losing like this. Dnt have a team just randoms.
m13 build anyone?
i use that same exact build
Yup mines like that. Just not a Morningstar
Pls buff strike fg
Thats pretty much the optimal build for it
Merc makes no sense just sayin
Im stil 80 something from diamond. Dnt care really. Its ugly.
nice
diamond is pretty u guys are missing out
maybe you guys got dark matter which i can understand
I grinded gold for DLQ then removed it cause its ugly on the Zealot.
STFU not 4 me
Silencer Barrel & 60 Round 
Ye, thats pretty much the 2nd build for it
DM n Diamond is not my style
3rd one with Heavy Barrel 
Works for passive but i dont really c much heavy barrel builds tbh
In ranked, most builds r just so random
Needs improvements
My M13 is Opulent Courage. If i didnt have that id use cool tiger with gold camo so you get red sights. I dnt like the dark matter guns.
heavy barrel for SnD
Ran into some guy using chicom in ranked and he was using fmj and red dot on it
Heavy Barrel is good for Dom but then its bad for SnD and HP
Yep
heavy barrel is 🚮

BR
i saw someone using red dot, full ammo, extended mag on a cordite
This ^^^ message is 
More refined diamonds, more saturated gold, and for the love of god, please keep the diamonds the same size, i dont want family sized diamonds
Red dot is understandable ig but full ammo and extended
I run into super snipers and cracked ninjas with type 25 and M13. 🙃
Lmao
skill issue
Yup im shit. Thats why i cant get to Legendary.
Also that was the only attachments he was using 💀
Something like this
ok
ok
I dnt like the Locus. Hitmarkers all over the place.
I was talking about the diamond camo
Sounds like a dare
It needs improvements
The platinum needs improvements. It just looks like chrome. I hate chrome.
Use opera gx
Lol. So much funny.
It's from hawksnest on twitter
Pic got compressed so i tried to upscale it
Looks very bad if you zoom in tho
Looks decent enough, like ray tracing on too, can’t wait for mobile to look this way 
build for rus79u??
models are made by hawks nets right?
bet he though he is the best at gunsmithing
but can’t really bulli
Since that the kind of builds I used to make when I first joined the game
Like bruh my ICR build used to be, strike foregrip, light supp, stippled, strike stock, laser 1mw
Strike foregrip was in like 90% of my builds back then before I know about the hidden strafe penalty
@stiff briar
How is Kreuger doing
thats what we want 😭
I think its gonna be in next season
Ray tracing on

Yea
bruh wait
MX9 imo. It's still pretty good, just not as good as the newer ppsh and cbr4
Yeah lmao. Most ppl gladly throw it away and never touch it again
Hmm
i didnt use mx9 once when it's the meta. how many stk does it take?
still 4 shot?
😳
😳 😳 😳
4 shots in the first range if you don't hit legs
what's nerfed to the mx9 then?
wasn't mx9 3 shots everywhere with large caliber mag
Large caliber ammo can make it 3 shot but nerfed to only headshots now
oh
base damage was 30
Beat it. 65 and 55 mg is better than 35 mag for PPSH-24
Last time yeah, hella broken
55 mag is just useless lmao
Its good to me with soh
35 for aggressive and 65 for more passive
No
35 for mx9 feels
ppsh recoil don't let you go passive + range damage dropoff suck
similar recoils too
so 35 is best bet
I aggressive with 65
mhm
With 35 mag, you can make ppsh super fast
ngl, thr recoil is pretty easy for me
yes it's super fast been using it today alot
so i cant really say that
just need to use the ppsh more to know how to control it simple though
I dont use no stock instead only use ads spread attachment
just gonna flex, but i mastered the recoil by just controlling it on training range
Steady stock? Why?
you're saying you go aggressive with slow holger
Lightweight
good place to train as it is training ground lol
Lol
after using both ppsh and cbr4 alot ppsh is slightly better in close range
cbr4 is more stable perfect for mid and close
Well i only use 1 perk build in all my loadouts
mono
Lightweight quick fix and ds
without barrel
I wouldn't say it's outright trash, but why use mono and 55
...
Its fast to me wym
it looks like you're using m13 without changing barrel and mag
I always use mono on all automatics
mono on ppsh is just a waste of attachment slot
on this gun however, monos not really viable
My attachments i always use on automatics are mono no stock ads laser and gran
Wot
light suppressor has -5% on this gun and the usual is -20%
^^^
But i change sometimes when i dont like what the attachment give
and they said there's like almost no damage dropoff
are you a ferg fan?
No
ok
don't follow ferg he just like stacking bsa
you're just using ppsh but without drawbacks basically
even on kilo
he makes shit builds
I only care for speed and accuracy
I can control recoils
But it weirds me with ppsh and kilo but theyre my fav
speed and accuracy
accuracy
meanwhile, uses soh and 55 for speed

not even a meter deducted
smort
yeah
Well its speed tho 
ass build
What does this attachment do
i can see why people dont like it
u mean reload speed
100 damage in close range
His builds are literally
Gran, tac laser, marksman, no stock
Then the other attachment is literally a random attachment
Fast reload af
60 in mid
just use soh. 55 is useless
Its the same thing
It's slug round
not even
Are you blind
Slugs, One bullet only instead of bursts
Syko, you see this shit?
Yes
soh is better because it has no drawbacks
Fire only 1 bullet
Ah I see, does it work on long range tho?
If ur talking abt mobility ppsh is in dire need of stf its 50% slower than most smgs, no stock compensates a little






