codm-gunsmith-help

[solar bane]

Lf duo/friends 19+

[manic kiln]

😂Who is this beggar talking to the president?

[thick tree]

#lfg-multiplayer

[faint gulch]

random newbie that can't read rules btw
just learn to suck it up when you're wrong

[viscid belfry]

lmao

[unique raven]

Insane

[viscid belfry]

nah

those kids r normal here

[faint gulch]

keeps things interesting I suppose

[viscid belfry]

ye

[manic kiln]

Shut up, you're just following orders

[viscid belfry]

lmfao

[thick tree]

You

[unique raven]

You be followin orders on a daily basis

[faint gulch]

nah my brain is just functional sorry

maybe that lil walnut will strain enough to figure it out in a few days

[unique raven]

😂

[viscid belfry]

[faint gulch]

[manic kiln]

😂Are you his slave?

[viscid belfry]

is that enough to call tych?

[faint gulch]

feel free

[unique raven]

Nh not rlly

[faint gulch]

this guy ain't even smart enough to ragebait

so boring

[viscid belfry]

@undone sandal do ur job

[manic kiln]

Don't cry, my child 😂

[unique raven]

it's ok I wont 🤣🤣

[viscid belfry]

lmfao

[granite sail]

Using this as a hip fire machine

For respawns you should probably use 43r fast

[viscid belfry]

y not 43 fast?

[granite sail]

Its just the build i had saved

[viscid belfry]

43 fast its a must for anything

this or 53 mag

[granite sail]

No cause i use 43r reg in snd

[viscid belfry]

damn y

[granite sail]

53 is ass just use either 43

[viscid belfry]

how its ass?

[granite sail]

Majority of my close fights are taking out a guy or two. 43 is more than enough for that. I dont need a quick reload afterwards

[granite sail]

10 more bullets for losing 15% ads

[viscid belfry]

15% ads its nothing

[granite sail]

Just use 43r fast atp

[viscid belfry]

just switch 5mw to firm grip

[granite sail]

Hip fire goes crazy tho

[woeful jolt]

Best machine pistol build

[granite sail]

Only laser allows this

Run with gung ho and you're hard cooking

[woeful jolt]

Tell pls

[granite sail]

Look man you need to stop stressing we see you now I'm not gonna send

Learn patience

[woeful jolt]

👍🏻

[granite sail]

I know I'm late but i tested and it did not give sniper glint

[gusty obsidian]

Vmp build for mp pleasee

[woeful jolt]

Same I see two attachments interchange but which is better ?

The heavy handle n bandit stock

The lb players n YouTuber like ferg n kith use bandit pad only so it is better than heavy handle ?

[granite sail]

Depends on playstyle you can build vmp for stability or speed

[thick tree]

Can I get DP27 build so I have it ready for next season

[granite sail]

I dont play ptb. Also stuff might still change

[thick tree]

Damn

What If you guess build

[woeful jolt]

Which for which ?

[granite sail]

Speed if you're good stability if you struggle with the recoil

Last time i tried i couldn't control vmp recoil, then again it took me a while to realize my vertical sens was way too low

[woeful jolt]

No like which attachment is for speed n which for stability

[granite sail]

It tells you i cant log on rn

There's pineapple underbarrel for speed is all i know out of my head

[woeful jolt]

Ohk do you have the build tho ?

[granite sail]

This is the speed build

Sorry didn't mean to leave ping on, bored

So if you use bandit stock say goodbye to hip firing

[woeful jolt]

So the underbarrel can be replaced by heavy handle or bandit pad depending on playstyle

[granite sail]

What heavy handle

Of nvm

[woeful jolt]

The underbarrel

[granite sail]

Just dont use heavy handle. Either integrated grip or speed

[woeful jolt]

Almost everyone who sent vmp gunsmith in builds had heavy handle on

[granite sail]

I wouldn't use it

Who sent it? Here or YT

[woeful jolt]

Mellow n some other guy

[granite sail]

Integrated improves ads, recoil AND flinch. Compared to heavy which also removes horizontal but thats much less of an issue and doesnt have sprint delay. Sprint delay isnt a huge issue if you play well

[woeful jolt]

Doesn’t it also reduce like 30% vert recoil ?

[granite sail]

Yea same as the grip

[woeful jolt]

So pineapple or bandit is just better

[granite sail]

Ah i forgot yea scratch what i said vmp has enough space to just put heavy handle and the phoenix grip

I was miscounting

Cause didn't have game open

Yea so pretty simple use heavy handle for stability and pineapple for speed

[gusty obsidian]

@granite sail so what build do u suggest for mp. The stability on

I have two different builds. Open to suggestions

[granite sail]

The 2nd one is not the best but probably the best for beginners who also never hip fire

For more experienced people I'd just use #1 with heavy/pineapple fg depending on preference

[woeful jolt]

Isn’t 2nd better for speed also the control is a lot more

[granite sail]

No integrated removes speed

@woeful jolt Here's the machine pistol build i use, insane accuracy

[woeful jolt]

Thanks n is akimbo good on machine pistol ?

[granite sail]

In the end you can see how far it reaches

People dont like akimbo cause it removes sprint speed, but you get hip fire mobility and ttk improves, its great

Its absolutely underrated

[woeful jolt]

I only use pistol usually in sudden close range situations so I thing that akimbo would be good for me

[granite sail]

Definitely

[woeful jolt]

Will try both n see which is better

Also machine pistol is the best pistol right ?

[granite sail]

And renetti

Renetti even good for range

Machine pistol best for close

And .50gs is decent at close-mid to mid

But iirc its slow semi auto?

So harder to use (if semi)

[woeful jolt]

Yes .50gs is slow

[granite sail]

I know its slow fire but dont remember if semi

[woeful jolt]

Like I am not using pistol even in mid only up close that too not that often

[granite sail]

Then machine pistol best bet

Or you could mess around with throwing axe

[woeful jolt]

Yeah I need a pistol to pair with sniper n sometimes vmp

[granite sail]

Vmp is a better pistol

Pistol with vmp is

[woeful jolt]

Yeah but ammo drains really fast

[thick tree]

Akimbo 50gs

[woeful jolt]

For hp n dom pairing pistol is good otherwise melee only

[thick tree]

Or revolver

[woeful jolt]

50gs is like a accuracy pistol why would you run akimbo on it

[thick tree]

One shot kill if you’re lucky

[woeful jolt]

Yeah lucky

Once in hundred or thousand moment

[granite sail]

Yea ts is worse than mw11 akimbo unusable

They gave .50gs akimbo 0 hip fire

[thick tree]

[granite sail]

I saw that

[thick tree]

Nuh uh

[granite sail]

Bad stats dont make skill issue in this case

[thick tree]

Yeah 😔

But it is funny

[granite sail]

I will show you funny

[narrow sonnet]

i use overkill

and run cordite as secondary

[thick tree]

Don’t care

[narrow sonnet]

can't post! the pic

[sonic stirrup]

mb bro

https://discord.com/channels/619762818266431547/810250863024930846

[narrow sonnet]

no probs

[granite sail]

Stippled bad on pretty much all auto gun.

Also i think fast reload after kill is bugged or something i dont notice a difference

[granite sail]

This should be better. If you're good at hip firing then hip fire laser over perk is decent

Pretty sure reload kill perk is bugged

[narrow sonnet]

ironically i never hip fire

i have a good hand placement

so i manage to always have a quick scope and kill

[granite sail]

Cordite might be fine with stippled if you do have a better range weapon as you said

@somber cove did you try ranger fg over no stock on qxr? Its better than usual, kinda nutty

I'll try both once its buffed

[somber cove]

I have tried that , I just have the habit of slapping no stock on everything cause I can't stop rushing

Its fun either way especially the long range accuracy for a gun like that is joke

[granite sail]

Joke good or joke bad haven't played qxr much

[lusty forge]

Plz good build and attachments for lw3

By build I mean secondary perks or scorestreaks

[granite sail]

Whats that

[lusty forge]

Lw3 tundra

[granite sail]

Scorestreaks is always whatever you run in the mode anyway

[lusty forge]

Soo what perks and secondary weapons?

[gusty obsidian]

Ima start using either qxr or qq10 when i get my cx9 to diamond

[granite sail]

Tundra

And then: lightweight/flack, toughness and if snd dead silence otherwise hardline

[real hamlet]

Guys what are the best perks and scorstreaks for nuking

[viscid belfry]

scorestreak kills doesnt count for nuke

i always use uav shock rc and counter uav

[lusty forge]

Guys plz tell

I sleep I check dms tmrw

[thick tree]

Flack quick fix and idk deadsilence
The norm is usually best

And secondly depends on if you’re using overkill or not

But saying you don’t I would use akimbo dovra

[knotty wagon]

What's a good GKS loadout?

[real hamlet]

R u joking

[real hamlet]

How abt advance

[granite sail]

@knotty wagon

[knotty wagon]

Thx

[granite sail]

@lunar bridge

.300, not stopping power, you know what i mean

Oh it was stomach??

Thats even worse

My bad

Ah yea not visual bug they updated it (i think) shows 97 now

But yea its not 73 × 1.4

Cause that would 1 tap

[lunar bridge]

Ah so the stats page is just bugged

Because I checked all of the mags and for a sec I was thinking you must've been using the extended because both other mags increase the damage enough to 1 tap the stomach

[granite sail]

Ah right no there's actually a 3rd damage range it doesn't show thats why

[lunar bridge]

But yeah I sorta see it now

[granite sail]

You only see the 3rd damage range here

35m with best attachments

Well it would be best, but range is actually kinda needed now

[lunar bridge]

Yeah gotta use far range bots to actually see it

[granite sail]

This would probably be the best build, 1 tap till 57m, but fire rate is gone

Thats why i said just use mk2 or kilo bolt

[lunar bridge]

Yeah I'll go with kilo. Just wish I had a blueprint for it lol

[granite sail]

It has space for optic

[viscid belfry]

no

[viscid belfry]

i main tdm and this combo its nice

[granite sail]

Btw you can use up to 3x scope and it will not give sniper glint

Only 4x and 4.4x does

[lunar bridge]

Ah alr.

[lunar bridge]

How is the sks? Saving up for a legendary, about halfway there so rly just tryna decide between all the guns I like

[granite sail]

T63 better in like every way

[lunar bridge]

The only ones I play that have legendaries available atm are mg42 hacked and em2 quantum light

Might be more but I can't remember

[granite sail]

Mg42 solid in mp and br

[lunar bridge]

I don't rly touch br

So I don't rly consider what's also good in br so my options would prob be a bit wider

[woeful jolt]

The stats are almost as same as uss9 so why isn’t this used

[granite sail]

Recoil

And 3 tap harder

[woeful jolt]

Ohh

[unique raven]

Same could be said for striker45

[granite sail]

Mostly recoil

[unique raven]

Yep

[woeful jolt]

Getting buffed next season iirc

Also mx9

[granite sail]

Striker 45 could be better, but legs will screw up the 3/4 tap and the recoil is even worse than gks

[unique raven]

Yea the recoil is horrendous

To the average player it's gonna be uncontrollable

[granite sail]

Thats why uss9 is bot weapon

[faint gulch]

mobility, recoil, aimshake

can't lower gks flinch either. you can with uzi

[granite sail]

Mobility is slightly better on gks

[faint gulch]

ads speed is pretty dang fried

unless you want to cause other issues

[granite sail]

What builds you comparing?

Tbh just put tac fg on gks cause idk what else

Sleight or maybe even strike fg?

I used to love strike fg when i started playing put it on every gun

They should remove the ads time penalty from steady stock, idk why they keep doing this to so many guns.
And remove aim shake ig (didn't even know that it had that)

Ig you can just run holo 2 with blue dot? That helps I've heard?

[real hamlet]

😅👌👌

[faint gulch]

id combat stock just to cope

[faint gulch]

a little. it's still far worse than uzi

id use first responder on uzi tho

[granite sail]

Same ads time just 6 or 8ms diff forgot

[faint gulch]

yeah ik, tho atp you also get worse BSA n stuff iirc

[granite sail]

With the built i sent on gks actually better than woodstock uss9

Removing tac fg pretty much same

Combat stock would make ads time better than uss9 and bsa worse

[faint gulch]

makes sense

[unique raven]

[thick tree]

Amax goated now?

[tawny walrus]

idts

but 37.5 meters of 4 tap is kinda good

[somber onyx]

Any gun with no recoil? Or fast ads

[thick tree]

Grau

[somber onyx]

What about the loadout

[thick tree]

I think recommended one ingame is correct one

[woeful jolt]

I personally think that wood stock performs better than no stock

[lusty forge]

Ok thanks

[wraith hazel]

Yo guys

I need best DlQ build

[unreal gale]

yes but 255ms ttk is not great

especially when ridiculously buffed drh is around

[tawny walrus]

still better than it was before

[unreal gale]

I mean yeah, definitely

[faint gulch]

im ngl lachmann is exactly the same, I don't get the hype for it

[tawny walrus]

i’m glad amax got buffed since it’s my favorite gun, but i’m being real for not hyping it

[faint gulch]

valid then, dmr mag is really good postbuff too

[tawny walrus]

i don’t like dmr honestly

[faint gulch]

same

[lone shard]

Hi all where is the new buff on smg mx9?

[faint gulch]

has 3 tap potential now, more consistent 4 tap, and 5 tap to 27m

[tawny walrus]

first range added, can three tap now

[lone shard]

Thx guy’s!!🙏

MX9 is back 🫣 😱

[woeful jolt]

#codm-gunsmith-help message
can replace suppressor with laser if not playing snd

[empty zinc]

gang is peacekeeper gud

along with fennec

[faint gulch]

mid, fennec fine

[empty zinc]

whats ur rank

[granite sail]

_Sad kith noises _

[faint gulch]

11k or sum idk, I barely play these days lol

[faint gulch]

kith uses AI for his analysis, enough said

[empty zinc]

no like in game

[faint gulch]

also is a drunkard. the same "analyst" anyway

[faint gulch]

ik, I mean 11k ranked points

[thick tree]

[empty zinc]

bro uk the new ranked system is rookie veteran elite pro master grand master and legendary right @faint gulch

[tawny walrus]

[thick tree]

At 10k points your legendary badge changes

So people just say 10k

[faint gulch]

that's always been the system, besides back. when grandmaster didn't exist

[empty zinc]

oh so wait u guys are in legendary basically

[faint gulch]

leggy is 8k pts. im at 11k, that's what most ppl say

[woeful jolt]

💔💔

[unique raven]

When exactly was grandmaster added?

[empty zinc]

bro im in grandmaster 3 rn

[thick tree]

Bro is not getting legendary

[empty zinc]

so like idk what u guys are talking about

[thick tree]

[empty zinc]

nah nah trust

[woeful jolt]

What 😭😭

[faint gulch]

like 2021

[woeful jolt]

You reach legendary at 8k and he said he is 11k so he is even above legendary

[unique raven]

Interesting

[faint gulch]

somewhere in the midst of jt

[empty zinc]

bro huh

wait wait

[unique raven]

11k is still in legendary

[woeful jolt]

Yeah but 10k legendary is diff you can’t match with gm

[unique raven]

Still the same rank

[woeful jolt]

Below 10k you can

[woeful jolt]

Yeah that’s true

[empty zinc]

bro idk for me its like grandmaster 1 2 3 4 5 then legendary

[unique raven]

Well yh

[empty zinc]

oh ok now i get it

[woeful jolt]

Yeah along with that there are points to

[empty zinc]

im at 7k almost

[woeful jolt]

Yeahh nice

[empty zinc]

imma grind a bit

hold up

bro my teammates are so bad bro

[lusty forge]

Can anyone grind with me in ranked im not that good I'm pro 3

[thick tree]

#lfg-multiplayer

[lusty forge]

Ok

Bro I asked if anyone wanted to play and I can't chat in that server for 30 min now🥀🥀

[thick tree]

You should try learning proper channels

[lusty forge]

Wdym

[rain holly]

Use the pkm or bruen . Very versatile LMGS which feel like LMGs

[unique raven]

[faint gulch]

the humble raal:

[rain holly]

Shh i am gate keeping. Its my main lmg. Use tactician echo grenades with restock.

[empty zinc]

any ideas for vmp?????

[unique raven]

No need to gatekeep if we all know

[granite sail]

The humble dingo:

[rain holly]

MANY people dont know. I rarely encounter people who use raal its so niche

[rain holly]

Idk about that unfortunately. I havent played in a month or two so i haven’t used dingo after the updates

[rain holly]

Yes , go for max ammo and fire rate

[unique raven]

Step 1 quit codm

[empty zinc]

bruh kk

i use fennec

but like i wanna try vmp

cuz ppl say its gud

[unique raven]

Step 2

Quit codm

[empty zinc]

bro wth

what smg do u use

[unique raven]

None

I quit codm

[empty zinc]

bruh

[granite sail]

Okay john no need to be a prick in a help channel tho

[granite sail]

@empty zinc

Read a bit we had a lil discussion about vmp yesterday

[empty zinc]

aye thx man

[granite sail]

This is a fun li'l build i made. Yes you can flame me for it, i know its far from the best. Whole point is i use it in SnD as a machine pistol alternative

Might even try Phoenix barrel

Using with gung ho

Yea no i think phoenix is pushing it too much. Also drops silenced

[crude seal]

What should I run on my so 14?

[granite sail]

Just run t63 atp

(I'm out cause idk what you'd put after the nerf, also apparently its profile is bugged?)

[outer abyss]

Thank you!

[granite sail]

Nah bro just saw the tundra loadout we sent a week ago

[wet oasis]

What attachments should I put on my dlq to make my wallbangs more and more efficient....🧐🧐

[granite sail]

Fmj. Thats it.

[empty zinc]

Guys what is the best ar in ur opinion

For me its between peacekeeper and icr

[granite sail]

Not even close to the best options

Icr is decent. Peacekeeper is mid at best

Best AR right now is between oden and drh

[hasty kettle]

Guys, does anyone of you have any good colour code for Call of Duty....?

[tawny walrus]

huh?

[lusty forge]

Where

Plz resend🙏🙏

[tawny walrus]

tactical suppressor
tiger team barrel
extended mag
serpent wrap
fmj

[lusty forge]

Ok thanks

[desert vapor]

hi

its my first time in this server

i usually play sniper

and i am ranked legendary

[unique raven]

Ok so

[viscid belfry]

nah

[granite sail]

So14 is dead just accept it

[viscid belfry]

dead?

just go to leggy ranked and see if its dead

[granite sail]

People still use dead weapons

They also fail to realize raal is uber meta

And that 3 line smokes tundra

[viscid belfry]

uber isnt a tier for codm

only pixelmon

[viscid belfry]

locus > both

[abstract glen]

They like to use comfy weapons
No recoil, no shake, just goes brrrr and beam
Or does insta kill

[granite sail]

Locus iron sight is cheeks so it doesn't matter

[lusty forge]

Guys dlq33 or 3 line rifle??

[abstract glen]

In what gamemode

In BR, go for dlq
In MP, go for 3 line
Idk about sniper meta though, just saying

[vapid socket]

yo i wanna learn quicksniping but most SnD lobbies i'm in always have these crazy quickscopers, i keep trying to quickscope but i always get defeated, what should i do

should i just play rank and hope my opponents arent insane?

[abstract glen]

Practice at shooting range yk
Just get used to it
And always hear noises around and aware of em, then predict enemy position

And this is gunsmith channel, go ask it in codm discussion

[vapid socket]

oh my bad, lemme head over there

should i change my koshka for 3-line rifle?

[abstract glen]

Both good rifle
I am not sniper main so idk if you should change or not

[atomic cypress]

So I need some help

Btw Hi chat

[lusty forge]

Ok thanks

[granite sail]

They both have purposes in both modes

In br 3 line is probably the best for hitting good among hdr

[abstract glen]

It sounds nice
What bout dlq in mp, what it does in the mode

[granite sail]

Wallbang

[abstract glen]

I see
That's why those 1v1 freaks like to use dlq

[astral jasper]

Dlq is the first love kinda gun tbh

[granite sail]

Dlq is also solid in general as of recently

With the buff

[abstract glen]

Yep
I remember it got buffed in like past 3 months

[astral jasper]

Does anyone have a 3 line rifle build for br

[granite sail]

I think its time we absolutely ruin the tundra now

And then nerf locus aswell. For the funnies

[granite sail]

Plays like hdr

But you get all the bullets

[abstract glen]

Does it do head 1 tap?

[granite sail]

Only garbage snipers dont do that

Like tundra and locus

[abstract glen]

I c

[tacit heath]

is ak117 still the best in br?

[woeful jolt]

Oden, so14 and xm4 are very close but ak117 just feels better

If running sniper use ak117 if shotgun run oden or so14 that’s what I personally think is the best

[unique raven]

iirc it hasn't been for months now

[granite sail]

Never has been

[tacit heath]

thanks for the answers 🙂

[viscid belfry]

it was for 2 mins now its dead

[tacit heath]

yeah i agree, thanks

[viscid belfry]

well idk if its dead i barely play codm and i dont touch br since ever

[viscid belfry]

oden with leggy long shot was absolutely broken and easy to use

and xm4 on br??

[granite sail]

Yea i dont think xm4 is it

[viscid belfry]

xm4 its amazing on mp but br??

[faint gulch]

naturally I tried to main it cuz mythic copium
you'll notice that I didn't keep that up for long lol

[faint gulch]

it was in like 2023 and some of 24 when it didn't have any other competition reliable enough. type 25 wasn't buffed yet and 117 hadn't been nerfed

[granite sail]

That's like a century ago

[faint gulch]

well yes but never is still not true

[viscid belfry]

ye fs

[faint gulch]

so14 bug in br was funny, ignore my aim

[viscid belfry]

wait what bug and omg drones on br?

[faint gulch]

yeah... I already hate this game more
it dealt headshot damage to body with 50r mag. so I was hitting for 180 and 2 tapping body with golden longshot

[viscid belfry]

damn

[verbal nimbus]

Na-45 is bugged 😭😭

[faint gulch]

all explosive/thermite mags are... if that counts it by default xd

[verbal nimbus]

Yo yo wait a minute mg82 bugged asf

[faint gulch]

hm?

[verbal nimbus]

#codm-clips

[granite sail]

Great. Hawkx3 bs

[granite sail]

Only that skin

[verbal nimbus]

This has gotta be one of the worst updates ever xD

[granite sail]

Nah we getting non trash mp ranked

[verbal nimbus]

Thats the thing im hyped for, and the dmz camos, but damn theres a bunch of bugs

And the slide fatigue being increased

[viscid belfry]

wdym?

[verbal nimbus]

Like, you have to wait longer before you can do a second full slide

You do one slide but cant like chain them in a row

[faint gulch]

ngl op

free heavy handle

[viscid belfry]

for all modes?

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah

[verbal nimbus]

If you switch back and forth between melee it disappears completely, and if you put an optic on it zooms in xD

[faint gulch]

[faint gulch]

[unreal gale]

[verbal nimbus]

Noooo dont ban meee.

At least its a sucky weapon XD

[unreal gale]

Oh yeah have you tried the new lmg

Dp27 I think it was called

[verbal nimbus]

I tried it in the training room. Max firerate at 24 damage per shot close range is insane

[unreal gale]

What’s the interval?

Also I thought there were some bp multi attachments

[verbal nimbus]

Yeah the mag

[verbal nimbus]

It says firerate : 122

I cant see the exact stats yet

[granite sail]

You know what we need a burst lmg

Why dont we have that

Even shotgun has hs21 and whatever r9 is

[verbal nimbus]

Thats.....an interesting idea

[cobalt marten]

holy

[viscid belfry]

damn

[eternal depot]

I may spawn the god of loadouts for dlq

@faint gulch

[eternal depot]

Hell yah

[ocean vine]

Gunsmith help

[grim steppe]

son asked for the easiest gun to build

😭 😭 😭 😭

[eternal depot]

Meh

Then give me zrg build

[grim steppe]

literally the same, except use armor pierce mag and stippled rear grip cuz fmj doesn't exist

[eternal depot]

Sonion

[acoustic spindle]

The R-90 buff is underrated. It now can consistently 1 burst up to 20 meters away.

[abstract glen]

You can see it on weapon comparison
And the firerate was 129 when I checked

[acoustic spindle]

The DP-27 looks kinda MID NGL. Mediocre range and inconsistent 4 tap consistency.

[abstract glen]

But ultra fast fire rate, it's so satisfying brrrrt

[verbal nimbus]

Both mags that increases the bp multiplier also decrease firerate by 15% so it might be better to build it for mostly firerate

Firerate only vs firerate+range

[gusty obsidian]

How much does pinpoint enhance accuracy by?

[faint gulch]

from 40% to 50%. 10% more aim assist, though it's technically 25% stronger than base aim assist xd

[gusty obsidian]

Ooh damn that's good 50% improvement? Btw could i have a qq9 and qq10 build please

Btw how is it 50% better if only 25% better than base? Bit confused by that lol

[faint gulch]

no, I mean your aa value goes up from 40% to 50%

separate numbers, not variables

[gusty obsidian]

Ohhh ok i see

[faint gulch]

the 10% increase compared to the base 40% is technically 25% stronger is all

[gusty obsidian]

And would appreciate both a qq9 and qq10 cus idk qq10 i find mag not big enough but maybe i modded it wrong

[gusty obsidian]

Ah ok thanks

[faint gulch]

try soh or vulture

soh over 1mw works

[gusty obsidian]

Thankss

[gusty obsidian]

I had gran grip tape instead of suppressor

[gusty obsidian]

Will give it a rry

[faint gulch]

suppressor is always mandatory

strike stock makes the bsa fine enough anyway. better than no stock + gran

[gusty obsidian]

I dont hipfire so that laser kinda useless for me anyway

[faint gulch]

ah right

[gusty obsidian]

Ah ok thanks

[faint gulch]

[gusty obsidian]

@faint gulch is 50 rnd cx9 better than qq10, fennec and qxr?

[faint gulch]

no

[gusty obsidian]

Which is best?

[faint gulch]

qq10

[bronze oar]

Qq009

[gusty obsidian]

Oh ok thankss

[woeful jolt]

Np

[woeful jolt]

Ikr that shit slays insane and xmr is ok meant to say t19 or hvk those are very good

[woeful jolt]

Man wth and why did you die to drone 😭😭😭

[faint gulch]

I couldn't move due to mechanic

what squad pulls out all their crap on a singular player wtf

[woeful jolt]

😂 😂 😂

Yeah those drone n dogs can be annoying asf

[woeful jolt]

Cx9 burst n qq10 are best smgs for snd

[wicked knoll]

Thats not what he asked

[woeful jolt]

His question was answered so was telling smth even more

[wicked knoll]

Did he directly ask for the best guns to use in SnD?

[empty zinc]

Ho chat

[gray dagger]

I need an op ak47 build

[pseudo token]

Op and ak47 dont really belong in the same sentence

[faint gulch]

true

[brazen roost]

I'd just quit cus wtf 😂

[faint gulch]

that's br for you now
I mean I am solo v squadding but literally what can anyone do there

[thorn grove]

Guys any DQL33 build?

For fast response

[faint gulch]

light supp, light barrel, combat stock, fmj, ext mag a

[abstract glen]

He said fast response so maybe
Just maybe laser and fast switch instead of mag and fmj
Just saying

[faint gulch]

fast switch is useless

laser is more a con than a pro ngl. unless 1v1'ing, tho mag will still serve you better

[thorn grove]

Oh i don't have perms to share ss

[faint gulch]

#┃server-media-passes select gunsmith pass

[thorn grove]

I have agile perk

[faint gulch]

agile also does nothing

[faint gulch]

assuming you aren't doing ranked, run lightweight and skuller

[abstract glen]

I see

[faint gulch]

is this for 1v1s or ranked

[soft root]

[faint gulch]

bc no supp is slop

[thorn grove]

Okay what to do?

[faint gulch]

k9

[soft root]

No laser

[faint gulch]

use skuller over agile

[thorn grove]

I love the dog

[thorn grove]

Ok

[faint gulch]

agile literally does nothing

besides on like... pkm or smth

has to be insanely slow animations

[thorn grove]

Done

[soft root]

[thorn grove]

I added RTC Compensator

[brazen roost]

I crode

[thorn grove]

It dies most the time but it saves me if I am in an stick situation

[thorn grove]

Why??

[abstract glen]

Iron lungs are better than that
I mean no one really runs that, even campers won't

[brazen roost]

It's not worth it. Use light suppressor instead

[thorn grove]

Ok bro

I currently use these 2

[soft root]

[thorn grove]

[soft root]

No sp mag arthick 50

[thorn grove]

I didn't add that

I need some more practice using that mag

[brazen roost]

Use tactical suppressor on artic and sp mag

[abstract glen]

I remember some said no sp mag is better

[soft root]

[brazen roost]

They're lying

[thorn grove]

If I use sp mag I get 5 ammo

[abstract glen]

Are they?

[brazen roost]

Like the people that don't run sp on locus

[thorn grove]

And if I don't I get 7

[soft root]

Better 1 tap with sp

[thorn grove]

Without mag

[thorn grove]

Wtf really?

[abstract glen]

I see
Well shit im gonna add sp mag

[soft root]

Yes

[brazen roost]

People were just fine running 5 on tundra so..

[thorn grove]

Okay

Let me update the guns

[brazen roost]

3 line also runs 5

[abstract glen]

Rytec too… wait rytec got updated some months ago and got 6 ammo, forget about this

[thorn grove]

Wt? I have one i used wait let me sharw

Share*

My peak madness

[faint gulch]

muzzle brake 💔

[thorn grove]

Okay I know i know there are better snipers but I love only 3 snipers

1 Artic .50
2 Rytec
3 DQL33

[faint gulch]

js use stippled

[thorn grove]

I couldn't find anything better

[faint gulch]

suppressor is always better

also would stippled over perk on it, another couple of frames of ads speed

[gray dagger]

So what is an op rifle for 1v1 duel mode

[thorn grove]

Monolithic suppressor?

[brazen roost]

Bp30 recoil booster

[brazen roost]

Light

[gray dagger]

Build?

[thorn grove]

Roger that cap

[brazen roost]

Recoil booster, rapid barrel, Leroy custom, 30 rounds, stippled grip

[abstract glen]

Speaking of rytec
Some codm ytuber rec me this
Is this legit?

[pseudo token]

Lowkey forgot the Artic existed

[faint gulch]

light. snipers don't need range boosting unless it's xpr sp or outlaw

[brazen roost]

Artic

[faint gulch]

no wtf

[brazen roost]

[faint gulch]

not worth

[pseudo token]

Uh this is a legit thing ppl use, its just not that good

[brazen roost]

Is worth

[gray dagger]

Is raal mg better than chopper?

[thorn grove]

Is this kid good now?

[brazen roost]

Yes

[abstract glen]

I see
Thanks

[thorn grove]

I was spamming that gun for br and mp a lot with worst possible combos

[brazen roost]

Bullet return> stippled grip

[thorn grove]

Roger that

I have used locus and thundra but they are on platinum

[thorn grove]

Na artic has great ads speed compare to dql and for some reason I love it

[faint gulch]

yes

[thorn grove]

Really?

[granite sail]

Chopper is more like a slow AR, raal is a proper lmg

[abstract glen]

What about bruen?

[granite sail]

Lmg

[faint gulch]

yes

[faint gulch]

flex ar that sucks unless you delete the model or have the leggy

[abstract glen]

I c

[granite sail]

I used this build for a while in SnD

Its a hip fire laser. Scoped in its invisible and i just pre aimed around corners anyway

[granite sail]

Yea i realized the fake AR build actually kinda decent

[faint gulch]

barrel not needed, run gran and no stock

[granite sail]

But bullet speed

[faint gulch]

tho you'll need optic over gran actually to hit anything

the bv is fine

[granite sail]

I have model deleted

[faint gulch]

I'm seeing a bruen model right there

[granite sail]

Yea i think it downloaded it with update

[gray dagger]

Is koshka still op?

[granite sail]

I deleted it 2 days ago

[faint gulch]

been outclassed since tundra release lol

[faint gulch]

ah

[gray dagger]

So tundra is top of the line sniper?

[rotund ivy]

Helloo

Im. Ew to dis server 😄

[granite sail]

Gran unnecessary i put steady for flinch its already 16.5 bsa

[rotund ivy]

But me top 5000 legendary but need help

[faint gulch]

flinch is understandable

[rotund ivy]

Is the dp57 coming out in season 4 and has its attachments got leaked?

[faint gulch]

3line is best now, but yeah I'd still say tundra better than koshka

[abstract glen]

Yep you can try it in shooting range

[rotund ivy]

Woaaaah

Coolll

Can it be meta?

[gray dagger]

Also for raal mg do i use the recommended build?

[abstract glen]

Hmm
Mid maybe? Not really a meta

[rotund ivy]

Ah ok

[faint gulch]

unsure what it is but

[rotund ivy]

Btw i rlly want a good gun for me i love rushing but also like quick 3 taps and passive hols

Holds

[faint gulch]

nah, ttk isn't good

[granite sail]

Even tho i get flamed i used the barrels for raal
If i dont run optic i go snatch fg

[faint gulch]

uzi, drh

[rotund ivy]

Oo

[faint gulch]

barrels don't boost bullet speed is the issue

[thorn grove]

[rotund ivy]

I want i kinda big mag

[faint gulch]

uzis is enough

[abstract glen]

Then uzi

[granite sail]

Wdym the one i have is 10% other is 30%

[rotund ivy]

Mwhich uzi machine pistol?

[faint gulch]

bugged. doesn't apply ingame

[granite sail]

[faint gulch]

what

uzi is uss9

[abstract glen]

No
Uss9

[granite sail]

How tf do you figure ts out

[rotund ivy]

O

Well people tell its kinda no skill i want a kinda skill gun

[thorn grove]

Thanks the current one dql is working great i
Tried using it on hard bots [Solo training mode]

[rotund ivy]

Mostly ar like xm4 or smg like sx9

Ik not 3 tap but would prefer 3 tap

[gray dagger]

Should i use all my weapon xp cards to max out 3 line or tundra

[faint gulch]

got tested on release by SoD. the entire gun was bugged to like 400m/s and we found that barrels didn't change it either. after that got fixed, barrels were tested again and we found that only the short barrel's bv effect changed anything xd

[granite sail]

Anyway I'll take just alone the 25 range and 5 vertical on raal. Its already slow and the pre fire accuracy is insane. I have pistol for mobility

[faint gulch]

3line, can be built to be 2 different snipers for preference even

[gray dagger]

So pls give both builds ill max out 3 line

[faint gulch]

only other options would be drh and hvk, both have fairly small mags. ul can work but probably a bit too slow ads

[rotund ivy]

Oo

Sounds cool

[faint gulch]

use 20r mag and the body multiplier barrel if you want full body 3 tap

it's a bit slower ads but is still a better hdr

[abstract glen]

What about EM2 or AK47?

[rotund ivy]

I think you sould use 20 rnd british for 3 line

[gray dagger]

Is it like a rifle type sniper

[rotund ivy]

Em2 kinda slow

Ak i hav a paid skin for free

Its a cool one its called mech owl

[granite sail]

@faint gulch do you have the body multi screen of lach12 barrel on lachmann before the change?

[rotund ivy]

But still no cuetom iron

[abstract glen]

Crate skin?

[granite sail]

I wanna compare what it used to have

[rotund ivy]

Yes

[ebon sinew]

My post in gunsmith keep disappearing do anyone know why?

[rotund ivy]

Strongbox metal menagerie

[granite sail]

Stick to the format as seen by others

[faint gulch]

no

[ebon sinew]

I just posted a screenshot and wrote what type of gun and no recoil Br and after posting it it disappeared

[faint gulch]

it changed stomach and arms or smth tho

[rotund ivy]

Can someone tell me is 5.45 caliber better than the 3 tap rounds of ak47

[faint gulch]

no, worse amax

[faint gulch]

wdym?

[rotund ivy]

O

[faint gulch]

both have considerably worse ttk and mobility

[rotund ivy]

Lack 12 barrel isa need for lachmann

[faint gulch]

and arent as comfortable
nice mags tho

[rotund ivy]

As it givs the 15 mtr 3 tap

Above waist

[granite sail]

I tried building lachmann without lach12 barrel now, but its hitting like 390 ads time

[ebon sinew]

What kind of format do I need to post in gunsmith build

[rotund ivy]

Ye the only flaw of lach 12 is little recoil more but can be maged withmother attachments

[gray dagger]

Like does it work like 1 shot or is it more of multiple shots needed to kill

[granite sail]

Idc about that recoil but removing velocity sucks

[rotund ivy]

Ig

[abstract glen]

No it's just 20r mags
It does 1 tap

[granite sail]

Dont use that in mp

[rotund ivy]

Btw holger if you use the mini mag i dont remember the name turns inta a crazy ar

[granite sail]

Just use hdr atp

You build 3 line for ads speed not 1 tap to legs, not worth

[rotund ivy]

Guys are we forgetting mk2?

[abstract glen]

I love hdr
Satisfying

[rotund ivy]

Its getting buffed i heard

[faint gulch]

3line does it faster ironically

[granite sail]

Mk2 does not need a buff lmao

[rotund ivy]

Full body one tap til 50 meters in season 5

[granite sail]

Yea but 40m only

[rotund ivy]

Tru

[faint gulch]

what lol

[rotund ivy]

O

[faint gulch]

is bro watching papajoe or sum bs

[abstract glen]

That has to be a joke

[rotund ivy]

No its tru

Season 5

[faint gulch]

1 shot above legs infinitely
multi barrel + 20r is one tap full body

[faint gulch]

it isnt

[rotund ivy]

But tis 40 not 50 meters

[faint gulch]

there's zero way for any balance changes to be leaked when the current season isn't even fully out, much less a test server

[rotund ivy]

Guys can someone tell me a switchblade alternative with better range

[faint gulch]

mx9

[rotund ivy]

Oo

Can smth be like an ar.

[faint gulch]

recoil is far harder

[rotund ivy]

?

[faint gulch]

if closer to ar, ram 7 and type 25

[rotund ivy]

O

[granite sail]

@faint gulch why does empress barrel on 3line not remove range on the sheet

[rotund ivy]

Ram or xm4 both are a big debate

[abstract glen]

More like T19 or XM4 ig

[faint gulch]

bc codm devs are all unpaid interns

[faint gulch]

ram is significantly better at aggressive play, xm4 handles better at range

[rotund ivy]

The actual debate is actually ram vs xm4 as both hav crazy mythics

And at time i feel t19 marksman is kinda better

[faint gulch]

semi t19...?

[granite sail]

One kinda stupid thing about hdr is it has no flinch

[rotund ivy]

Thats tru

[granite sail]

Brother in christ

[faint gulch]

t19s pretty irrelevant at everything rn

[granite sail]

T19 semi is probably the worst semi in the game

[abstract glen]

And the ads stock
That has no lung refresher penalty

[rotund ivy]

O

[granite sail]

Even amax semi better

[rotund ivy]

O dem thars trash

[granite sail]

Steady aim only matters for noobs

[rotund ivy]

Guys is there any giveaway going on since i need some cp

[marsh cypress]

Hello there! looking for the giveaway channel or discussing a current or upcoming one?
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You can also enter the weekly nightly/daily GAME SHOW with active giveaways for the viewers
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[rotund ivy]

Im in love with the xm4 mythic

And ram mythic

[abstract glen]

I am sniper noob

[rotund ivy]

Im a mobility god with crazy flicks so im good with 3 line

But i wanna switch to 2mth full auto

Whats the best ful auto except uss

I need the best ar actually

Did everyone leave?

[abstract glen]

Nope im here

[rotund ivy]

Oh thank god

Can you tell me a good xm4 red dot build

Like rlly good

[abstract glen]

Red dot hmmmm

[rotund ivy]

Btw i rlly loved the mech owl skin for ak47 honestly

Even tho ak is getting called mid is a cool skin

[granite sail]

@faint gulch mono supp or choke for r9?

[rotund ivy]

Choke

All day long

[faint gulch]

choke, spread is always most important on sgs

[granite sail]

I saw your grau build, your opinion isnt trusted
Edit: nvm im dumb

[faint gulch]

lmfao I wonder what it was

[granite sail]

Damn rip movement speed

[rotund ivy]

Guys i need the best ar gun and loadout can someone gimme

By loadout i meant gunsmith

[granite sail]

You saw and downvoted it

[faint gulch]

agency supp, taskforce barrel, rds, and either 50r + field tape or airborne + 45r

[faint gulch]

that's the jack dude

[granite sail]

Oh nvm mb

[faint gulch]

field tape or airborne wrap mandatory

[rotund ivy]

Ok thats cook but what abt field tape

[abstract glen]

Aight

[rotund ivy]

The 90% flinch reduction

[faint gulch]

needed postnerf

[granite sail]

Also just realized choke on r9 displays 7.5% sprint delay but on the sheet its actually adding 15%

[rotund ivy]

Ye serpe t kinda trashy now

[faint gulch]

airborne does that with serpent's ads speed pro so it's also nice if you don't mind the mobility

[rotund ivy]

Serpent

I kinda wanna rush so i dont think i can do that

[faint gulch]

depends on how much you backup swap

comp definitely rushes and yet they all run it xD

[ebon sinew]

Bro for br are mp

[rotund ivy]

Mp

[ebon sinew]

1 min I check my loadout

[rotund ivy]

Taskforce over reenforced heavy?

Fr?

[abstract glen]

Yes

[faint gulch]

ofc

reinforced has worse multis and nukes mobility

[rotund ivy]

But 70% range and 40% speed?

Bullet spped i mean

[faint gulch]

tfb has the same or more bullet speed iirc, and only 4m less range

you'll still have higher 4stk rate on avg

[rotund ivy]

O

[faint gulch]

due to the multis
and ofc no 6% sprint and 20% strafe nuke

[rotund ivy]

Tru

Ram or xm4 tho

Kinda hard

[faint gulch]

preference

just use whichever you're more comfortable with

[rotund ivy]

Ill need to try both

Actually i tried xm4

[faint gulch]

[ebon sinew]

Bro do you need quick scope are one short

[rotund ivy]

Guys is sx9 meta in s4?

[faint gulch]

arguably so

most consistent aggressive smg

[rotund ivy]

O well i hav gold on it but

[granite sail]

Better camping build for the 20r

[rotund ivy]

Crossfire map choosers and sniper campers annoy and make it useless

[faint gulch]

just switch guns

[rotund ivy]

O yea..

[ebon sinew]

I also have that layout

[rotund ivy]

Guys imagine swordfish was full auto and not burst

Game breaker..

[ebon sinew]

For cross fire I recommend Artic 50 bro

[granite sail]

Nah you ran disable and a horizontal recoil fg

[faint gulch]

on what lmfao

oh nvm

[ebon sinew]

Sword fish can be used as Sniper in br bro

[rotund ivy]

What does lmao mean

[faint gulch]

handstop and maxim silencer, crazy

[rotund ivy]

Ik that

[faint gulch]

laughing my a** off

[ebon sinew]

Bro I have more layout, different for each map and match type

[granite sail]

Ass

[rotund ivy]

O dang

U cant say that ig but fine

[faint gulch]

just more of a hyperbole of lol

[granite sail]

The disable one is never good

[rotund ivy]

Guys is so full auto gud

[faint gulch]

foregrip on a sniper is painful to see

[faint gulch]

actually yes

amazing main ar

[ebon sinew]

For different mach and map different layout, we can't use one for all

[granite sail]

Just realized they fixed all thermites and explosive ammo yay

[rotund ivy]

Oh i can use that

[granite sail]

Its a crime that its so good

[rotund ivy]

Right mellow?

[granite sail]

We are lucky that auto 14 cant use disable. Otherwise its gg

[rotund ivy]

Ye i agree

[ebon sinew]

Since I always played alone I can't depend on my teammates soni need best gun that can be used in the match

[rotund ivy]

Imagine smth shit like so 115 comes and its and ar that can apply ar

Not happening but imagine

[faint gulch]

fr

[granite sail]

Closest thing to AR with disable we have is holger

[faint gulch]

ul cough cough cough

[granite sail]

Ig chopper and bruen

[rotund ivy]

With the miny mag

[faint gulch]

UL

[rotund ivy]

Uss is a 10× better drh..

[faint gulch]

chopper is always an anomally

[rotund ivy]

Dingo is an anti meta

And asm 10 with bramson is the fastest ttk gun in the game..

133ms..

[granite sail]

I mean movement speed is trash or are you using silencer barrel

You know silencer barrel actually looking good on ul now

Huh gotta unlock

[rotund ivy]

Guys why is asm 10 branson like cracked

Ik its hare to unlock but if u get it its like crazy

[abstract glen]

Yk, holger base gun is MG36
And you take away 100rnd mag and insert 30rnd then boom G36 which is an assault rifle

[faint gulch]

cx9 burst, tec9

[rotund ivy]

Cx 139

[granite sail]

I can never like tec

[faint gulch]

thing is, Branson relies on you hitting all three initial shots

[rotund ivy]

Tec9 ig with rappid faster

[faint gulch]

cx9 burst is 116ms

[rotund ivy]

Ye tru

O

[faint gulch]

atp use a dmr

[rotund ivy]

Dang

Guys is full auto so better tha. Most ars?

[granite sail]

Unfortunately yes

[faint gulch]

or bursts since they usually don't have cruddy range

[rotund ivy]

And is lag better than oden

[granite sail]

Lag mid

[faint gulch]

yes
best main ar arguably

[abstract glen]

No way bru

[faint gulch]

lags still worse than oden

good gun tho

[rotund ivy]

Dang

[granite sail]

Lag53 is oden from ebay.

[abstract glen]

Lag full auto worse than oden
Lag semi auto worse than so

[rotund ivy]

Colossus makes the oden look like smth like swordfish

[abstract glen]

Awh my poor FAL

[granite sail]

Lag semi auto is worse m1 garand

[rotund ivy]

Pre buff m1 i think

Lag semi is horrible

What FAL

[abstract glen]

Lag original gun

[rotund ivy]

O

[abstract glen]

Right arm of free world

[rotund ivy]

Like rus old guns name

[ebon sinew]

Groza is little better then oden

[abstract glen]

And uss qq9 etc etc

[rotund ivy]

Groza buff is actually crazy multiplier

[faint gulch]

yeah ban this guy

[rotund ivy]

[faint gulch]

we need a pin of shame

[rotund ivy]

Oden shreds so if ur trash at the game

[ebon sinew]

When it comes to 1vs 2 situation it' is better than oden

[faint gulch]

buddy

sometimes it's better to just stop talking

[rotund ivy]

But so better if yk how to actually he a good basic player

[faint gulch]

groza isn't even meta

[rotund ivy]

Bobby says its 8 best gun in game somehow

[abstract glen]

But not bad
Not bad at all, just not meta

[faint gulch]

dude doesn't even play anymore rly

[ebon sinew]

Can you deal with squad in close rang with oden in mp 1vs4

[faint gulch]

not that he was ever very good

[rotund ivy]

Dude bobby plays is cap

[granite sail]

Fair enough

[faint gulch]

yes, considering I'm killing them twice as fast with reliable recoil lmfao

[faint gulch]

mid

[granite sail]

Yep you're banned.
Have a good night.

[faint gulch]

would still handily use t19 and grau over groza and they aren't meta either

[rotund ivy]

One gun

So full auto..

I gtg now so byeee

[faint gulch]

adios

[ebon sinew]

Bro I am not talking overall I am talking about similar gun build like high damage

[faint gulch]

how are we comparing groza to Oden when it comes to damage.. like at all

[ebon sinew]

Oden and groza have high damage compared to other ar

[granite sail]

Yea if you give groza the stats of oden then it can beat oden

[faint gulch]

oden does, groza doesn't lol what

2 vs 4 tap 😭

[ebon sinew]

Are you playing in mobile are pc bro