codm-gunsmith-help

[tidal bear]

Noob

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

You fell off? L

[brazen dagger]

this was like a year ago haha

look at the points on the first one

[hazy herald]

i need the best tundra and dlq built
can some one tag me

for mp

[frail stag]

Ok wait a sec

Best by which standard?

[rich arch]

Is ads for to scope zoom good or bad?

On sniper

[rose lava]

ads FOV?

[rich arch]

For phone

[hazy herald]

like less ads

[rich arch]

Ye cleft

[frail stag]

Balanced then? Ι take it your new, correct?

[rose lava]

ads FOV is not good for phones, better for bigger resolution devices

[hazy herald]

yep

[frail stag]

Ι don't like it either. (Sniper main)

[rich arch]

Kk

[hazy herald]

i have been trying the system rec ones

[frail stag]

Wait a sec Ι need to download a bunch of resources. It's been awhile since I've played

[hazy herald]

ohh alr

[lilac tapir]

The Marlin is the MK2

[rich arch]

What does ads for do

[hazy herald]

i got diamond for dlq today

[frail stag]

Pardon me?

[rich arch]

Fov

[frail stag]

How much zoom your camera would have whilst aiming your sights down.

[rich arch]

What does that. Mean..

[hazy herald]

like how long it will do it

[frail stag]

Myb for weird phrasing. Ι meant to say: how zoomed in your camera would be while aiming

[hazy herald]

its like how long it will take to zoom in
like snipers takes a bit long

[rich arch]

K

[hazy herald]

isnt it, how fast it does it?

[frail stag]

They said fov not ads time

[hazy herald]

ohh mb

[rich arch]

What are u guys sensitivity fro phone

[frail stag]

Dlq build if you want better stability whilst still having a decent ads speed:
Muzzle: light sup
Barrel: MIP light
Stock: MIP strike
Perk: fmj
Ammunition: mag A
You can also use the combat stock for more speed

[frail stag]

Max

[rich arch]

Tell me pls

[frail stag]

300

Everything

[hazy herald]

alr ty man

[rich arch]

Na how u run on that

[frail stag]

do ya need the tundra too or is the dlq alr?

[frail stag]

You'll get used to it

[hazy herald]

if you can send pls i will try them ig ty

[frail stag]

Again, most sniper builds prioritize ads speed.

Ι don't recommend using slower builds

Ι don't recommend using snipers in general

Unless, you play with claw

[brazen dagger]

hammer forged barrel is also good on tundra

[rich arch]

For phone do u use tap to ads or tap and hold

[round helm]

how many fingers u play

[rich arch]

4

[round helm]

probably keep tap

[rich arch]

I normally play tap and hold but ill make the switch

[brazen dagger]

i use hybrid, i hold for most weapons and tap for snipers

[wooden mica]

mastering different guns, what good attachments should i be putting on a bp50 ??

[rich arch]

Best to master it before it gets nerfed

[wooden mica]

preesh 👏🏻

[rose lava]

MAEVAT OR EXTENDED MAG???

[shadow hound]

Extended

[rich arch]

Maevwat

For br

[livid hazel]

What is the hardest gin to get a gold camo

[next granite]

Na45, d13

[elfin rampart]

Gimme your best loadouts this season for mp

[wraith badger]

its gonna be quite a large block of text......

[wraith badger]

shorty

[wraith badger]

oh good

[elfin rampart]

Gimme

Or just send in dms

[quaint lance]

Those long shots are annoying but I got em

[frail stag]

Damascus is mid yall

Don't get it

[knotty stream]

@oak gulch got the best builds

[quaint lance]

Everything in the game is mid unless you want to pay for it

[frail stag]

Real

Tbh Ι think all mythic skins are also mid

[quaint lance]

What's not mid for you then 🤣

[frail stag]

Codm lost its joy

Atleast for me it did

Ι sure would've loved a mythic like a year ago

But now...

It just doesn't feel like it used to

[quaint lance]

Honestly , for the price of a mythic , I can buy a real gun already

And then be able to sell it if I regret buying it

[frail stag]

Real

[rose lava]

Crossbow loadout (specifically someone who unlocked diamond camo on it)

[wraith badger]

nah no way

[wraith badger]

bp50: maxim silencer, rapid barrel, removed stock, 60rnd drums, and stippled grip tape

tundra: tactical suppressor, tiger team barrel, fmj, 7rnd mag (not the fast one), and serpent wrap

mg42: maxim silencer, 31M barrel, skeletal stock, fmj, and 13mm anti-material drums

uss9: monolithic suppressor, first responder barrel, ultralight stock, AE 32rnd mag, and granulated grip tape

krm: maruader suppressor, extended light barrel, no stock, granulated grip tape, and 5mw laser

mk2: owc light suppressor, sports barrel, sports stock, sleight of hand or sights, and stippled grip tape

@boreal jetty for the lk build, replace monolithis with tactical suppressor for more bsa

[knotty stream]

half of those are recommended build

besides mg mk2

[wraith badger]

if they're right, they're right

[knotty stream]

they need to update mg

[wraith badger]

?

[knotty stream]

cuz it’s the pre nerfed one

disabled with both fast recoil booster thing

[elfin rampart]

DELICIOUS

Boutta yoink those attachments onto my loadout

[wraith badger]

[leaden pike]

Shorty grind is hell

This gonna take hours

[wraith badger]

Yep it is

[leaden pike]

Getting headshots is easier by hipfire with shorty I’ve found

Got 50 kill with shorty but none of them are long range

😭

[dry light]

where is that guy

[quaint lance]

Long range is annoying, I shot them once with xpr and then killed them with shorty

[dry light]

@quaint lance wtf Aaron

[young shale]

its a good strat

[wraith badger]

@nimble jay nice ak47 leggy skin
change tact to monolithic suppressor and if you want to, A mag to B mag

[quaint lance]

What ?

[abstract pollen]

man hs0405 so sigma

if i use slug itl probably be even more accurate

[wraith badger]

don't use h20 with slugs, use thunder rounds instead

[abstract pollen]

havent gotten that yet

why do all my teammates play like theyve given their phone to their smaller sibling

[round helm]

aint that how u play?

[abstract pollen]

☹️

[round helm]

why u change ur name

[abstract pollen]

no i would be the sibling who has some experience with fps games

all these kids are candy crush players

[round helm]

didnt u get shit on last time i watched u play

[abstract pollen]

because uhh idk

[round helm]

im jk anyways

[abstract pollen]

agreeimgetting shit on rn

jp

[round helm]

whats that thing around ur pfp

[abstract pollen]

im batman

[round helm]

how u get that

[abstract pollen]

ohhh

discord quests

[round helm]

how???

[abstract pollen]

tap that discover button in the server list

and all you gotta do is watch the batman game trailer

oh this isnt codm gunsmithing bruh my fault

[rose monolith]

#1020027756463009906 I want you to go. I want to know if this happened to people like me yesterday or today.

[round helm]

mid trailer

[abstract pollen]

agree

but im batman and youre a fraud

[round helm]

its lame anyways

[round helm]

ez

[abstract pollen]

oh yes thank you for this uss9 build that i asked for which i totally use

[round helm]

💯

i gochu gang

[leaden pike]

First responder barrel is better than carbine

[round helm]

I’m good

I prefer this barrel

[leaden pike]

skill issue XD

[hoary flare]

why tho

[round helm]

Does it matter

[hoary flare]

imo carbine pro nukes mob

it does

[round helm]

Crazy

[round helm]

Too bad

I just like the extra range anyways

[undone sandal]

not opinion
it does

[oak gulch]

I can't post any.

[atomic summit]

and you shouldn't!

[oak gulch]

Why should i when i just "CAN'T"?

[atomic summit]

W MODS

[dry light]

lord mureki

[austere igloo]

lel

[tawny walrus]

Your fault for shitposting in the builds channel.

[raven python]

His perms are down ?

[tidal bear]

Lol

[raven python]

Lino, Hi

[tidal bear]

Hello

[vale lichen]

M13 build spam

[scenic oyster]

Hello

[fallen ice]

LMG Choppee build

Chopper

[raven python]

Ok.

[raven python]

Hello

[scenic oyster]

Hi

[raven python]

Monolithic suppressor
Chopper Infantry
Heavy Handle
Disable
150 Rounds

[raven python]

Howdy ?

[scenic oyster]

Yeah howdy

[raven python]

I'm good, so which weapon gunsmith do you want ?

[orchid comet]

Is this any good for MP ranked?

[raven python]

It IS for MP ranked

[orchid comet]

Thanks

[dim roost]

Im not liking the ffar rn

The last time someone recommend me the ffar and it sucks in my opinion

[brazen dagger]

it does

[oak gulch]

You mean aumi63?

[vale lichen]

[vale lichen]

U just sucks

Maybe try using other guns than BP50

[oak gulch]

It has been a year.

[vale lichen]

You should contact modmail then

And don't do it bro

[oak gulch]

Nah i don't think they will fix it.

They never fix things.

[vale lichen]

spamming gunsmithing channel doesn't worth it trust

[vale lichen]

Just try

[oak gulch]

What is modmail?

[vale lichen]

@strange compass

[oak gulch]

And btw i really enjoy using qxr do you have any build for snd?

[vale lichen]

Mono, marksmen barrel, enhanced bolt, gran,no stock

qxr is next BP50 from next season

[oak gulch]

👍

[oak gulch]

What will i write?

[vale lichen]

You won't repeat the mistake

[broken saffron]

Putting this here because I have gun questions too. New to the game, introduced by a friend and want to be good at it. What are some things to take note of?

Prefer playing aggressively, probably gonna try my hands on ranked and see how far I go. Traditionally have had no problems solo queuing and getting to low Diamond in mobile games, but that's Moba. Don't know how transferable my game knowledge and sense is to a game like CoD. Also hate how I need to hold down shoot to aim and then.

Any suggestions people?

[tidal bear]

I ain't reading all that

[broken saffron]

[tidal bear]

I did read but I can't help you, I ain't a professional 💀

[broken saffron]

but you master

[undone sandal]

id say just play more
you will eventually learn crosshair placement and all that stuff

[broken saffron]

Do I need to adjust sensitivity this early on

[undone sandal]

but there's some decent guides out there that you could check, don't pressure yourself to be like “i need to be legendary rank in 1 week”

[broken saffron]

eh, I

[undone sandal]

as long as it isn't too high

[broken saffron]

is it acceleration sensitivity?

I have a feeling rushing down teams isn't feasible the higher you go in rank

[undone sandal]

it depends on the gun you're using

[broken saffron]

let's see...

[undone sandal]

speed accel?

[broken saffron]

let me pick a few for your review.

yeah

CBR4, QXR4, PDW, Chicom, BY15, HS0405, Type 25 are all guns I can see myself using for aesthetics reasons first, then learning their ins and outs.

Also, agents in this game are purely cosmetic right?

[brazen dagger]

master only means the server rank, has nothing to do with ingame

[lunar nebula]

Someone dm me plz since I can't post pics on here i want opinions on my mg42 build

[static vault]

LW3 tundra mid to long quick n stable Balanced loadout?

Or is that too much

[undone sandal]

tac supp
tiger team
fmj
7 rnd
serpent wrap

[undone sandal]

yes

[static vault]

Woah

I already have this loadout

[undone sandal]

good

[lunar nebula]

MG42-1D2C5E8D9J rate build plz?

[lunar nebula]

Cool, thx

[undone sandal]

in a few

[lunar nebula]

???

[undone sandal]

ingame rn

[lunar nebula]

Ooh, I thought you were talking to me mb

[undone sandal]

#┃server-media-passes get gunsmith pass here

[lunar nebula]

Done

[undone sandal]

you shld be able to post pics now

[lunar nebula]

Awesome thx. Here you go, good build?

[undone sandal]

id swap muzzle to maxim silencer
barrel to 682mm
mag to 13mm

[lunar nebula]

What is ads bullet spread?

[undone sandal]

are you familiar with bloom in other cod titles

[lunar nebula]

Codm is my first cod game

[undone sandal]

oh i see

[lunar nebula]

Never tried any other game yet

[undone sandal]

its basically how accurate ur gun is when ur aimed down

[lunar nebula]

Oh ok

I was trying to really reduce recoil and stuff

[undone sandal]

yeah thats fine

[lunar nebula]

All done. Is it a better build?

[undone sandal]

ye

id say so

[lunar nebula]

Ok. Have reasoning?

[hushed lintel]

Yoo can sumone give me the best guns for grinding legendary

[undone sandal]

maxim silencer for bullet spread reduction and suppression
disable for slowing the enemy down upon hit (any body part for lmgs)
leather grip for boosting ads speed
682mm barrel for boosting recoil control, reducing bullet spread and less hit flinch for minimal downsides
13mm for range and bv boost while improving body multipliers

[undone sandal]

bp50 oden
uss9 fennec cx9
mg42

[lunar nebula]

Alright then, thx

[hushed lintel]

Appreciate it man ✌️

[static vault]

How much would you trust LW3 Tundra
28.2" Extended
OWC Laser - Tactical
Patrol Foregrip
7 Rnd
Rustle Grip Tape

[undone sandal]

eh

if you wanted like faster RPM id just swap tiger team for hammer forged

[broken saffron]

What do you think about my choice of guns

Gotta tune the sensitivity way down I think tho

Apparently there's a 3-game placement system for ranked as well? I'm just gonna hit ranked later

[hushed lintel]

Need attachments for oden 😅

[undone sandal]

5 of them are good, for by id consider slugs

[static vault]

I only added the laser everything else comes with Lux violenta blueprint, i thought I'd give it a try

[undone sandal]

yeah for first timers

[lunar nebula]

Could you give me your recommended build for dlq33 plz?

[broken saffron]

slugs = launchers?

[undone sandal]

for this season or next season?
colossus → mono
light short barrel
light stock
gran
operator foregrip

[undone sandal]

light supp
mip light
combat stock
fmj
mag a

[undone sandal]

slug rounds

[broken saffron]

are slug rounds basically just harder rounds kek

[undone sandal]

instead of multiple pellets its just one

but deals more dmg

[broken saffron]

so semi-auto?

[undone sandal]

still works as a pump action

but base by is still decent

[static vault]

Pump action marksman?

[undone sandal]

by slugs if you can use them are great

[undone sandal]

yeah by15 slugs is like a marksman

[static vault]

K

[undone sandal]

other shotgun slug rounds aren't as good though

[broken saffron]

oh wait, are we talking SMGs or Shotgun, I think I gravitate toward SMGs.

idk, are rushdown strats viable in high rank? Is ranked battle royale or 5v5 btw

[lunar nebula]

Ok, thx

[undone sandal]

for lower ranks you can basically do whatever you want
though for higher ranks, you would want to use something that's good both in close and midrange

id argue you would struggle with rushing if you aren't using a shotgun

for ranked, you can pick between battle royale and multiplayer (5v5)

[balmy temple]

Should I use Fennec or Peacekeeper

[lunar nebula]

@undone sandal build you recommend for qxr smg?

[undone sandal]

mono marksman eb extmag gran

[lunar nebula]

??

[undone sandal]

monolithic suppressor
marksman barrel
enhanced bolt
extended mag
granulated grip tape

[lunar nebula]

Or what is the best smg lol 😅

[undone sandal]

uss9

[broken saffron]

are the ranks for BR and 5v5 shared? Hope not :x. Aren't SMGs technically the superior CQC weapon anyway

it's RoF vs. Burst Damage.

[undone sandal]

nah they're different dw

[undone sandal]

shotguns are actually scarier than smgs in their effective ranges
can kill in 0ms

most smgs kill around 200-250ms or so

[lunar nebula]

Then what's the recommended build lol. Sry I'm not trying to be a pain for you

[broken saffron]

Going in for my first ranked

[balmy temple]

Bro

[undone sandal]

mono
first responder narrel
.41 32 rounds
wood stock
perk/laser/optic

[broken saffron]

let's seee

[balmy temple]

Should I use Pckpr of Fennec

[undone sandal]

you could swap the stock for ultralight but then you would need to use toughness

[lunar nebula]

I do not have .41, so what should I use until I get it? Also "perk/laser/optic"???

[undone sandal]

just use the ext mags for now
last slot is basically a free slot, you can use sleight of hand, longshot, any of the three lasers, or red dot optic

[lunar nebula]

Alright, thank you

[hoary flare]

@balmy temple switch stock to striker grip if youre running hammerforged

[crimson steppe]

y'all good krm build? i've only really just tried out the r90

out of all shotguns

r90 better than krm or whats up? is this controverisal lmao?

[hoary flare]

Ex light barrel
maurader
5Mw laser
no stock
gran/soh

[balmy temple]

…

Anyone gonna suggest me something?

[hoary flare]

both work i guess

PKM2 does have some recoil tho

[abstract pollen]

@round helm here started the locus gold grind

[round helm]

how long have u been here 💀

[abstract pollen]

i left like

idk when

[round helm]

jeez

[abstract pollen]

i joined this server lesser than one month after i made my account

now that is insane

[round helm]

💀

[dry light]

o

[boreal jetty]

uss-9 gunsmith some1 pls

[wet sapphire]

I can but people call it trash 🚮

[boreal jetty]

sure sure

anything is fine. yea. bruh

[wet sapphire]

Should I??

[abstract pollen]

its trash

[wet sapphire]

@boreal jetty

[wet sapphire]

That's what I use

[vale lichen]

Mono, first responder, ultralight, 32mag, gran

[pliant kindle]

Hello friends

[boreal jetty]

great gunsmith dude

[rich arch]

yo

[wet sapphire]

Thanks ❤❤
You are the first one 🥲🥲🥲

[boreal jetty]

oh wait

;-;-;-;-;-;

it looks ok

[pliant kindle]

Hi

Hey guys

[wet sapphire]

Hiiiii

[wet sapphire]

You can say if you think it's trash.
I will not mind 😶😶

[boreal jetty]

cant judge without using it first-

[wet sapphire]

A wiseman 👍👍👍

[boreal jetty]

one thing i will say though. use granulated grip tape instead of stippled, monolithic instead of owc

[wet sapphire]

Actually I mostly use ads fire so i need good ads time 🥲

[boreal jetty]

the mag and laser is good

oh then uh

[brazen dagger]

stiill mono is a must

use this

[wet sapphire]

I guess mono Inc ads time so i use another one which dec range but still I can easily make long shots so i also don't need long shots... 😶

[shadow hound]

😦

[boreal jetty]

m4 build?

[brazen dagger]

well you do you buddy

[brazen dagger]

if you want less passive go for tac supp

[hushed lintel]

Can someone send me a pic of switchblade build

[dry light]

Switchblade SX9 MP:-

• Monolithic Suppressor
• Extended Light Barrel
• Light Stock
• Granulated Grip Tape
• 41 Round Extended Mag

[knotty stream]

that’s the recommended

[dry light]

and?

do you want me to make a special build completely new and innovative

[knotty stream]

just say that next time

you waste finger energy typing the attachments

[dry light]

it's copy pasted though

and they won't know what the recommended is

better to show the attachments

[knotty stream]

if they new to the game prob

[dry light]

nah

many old players who have no idea about attachments

[tired grove]

Mono suppressor
Ranger barrel
No stock
40 round extended mag
Granulated grip

[brazen dagger]

also he explicitly asked for a picture

[rich arch]

can somoen show me a handcam on how to play with tap to ads

Argus gunsmith ?
For aggressive gameplay

[tidal bear]

Argoosie

[wraith badger]

choke muzzle, BO stock, fast ext mag, non-slip steady rear grip, and tactical laser

[wraith badger]

but uss9 is meant to be played more on the passive side, if you wanna aggro (and I do), try this:
monolithic suppressor, first responder barrel, sleight of hand or long shot, AE 32rnd mag, and no stock

@balmy temple don't worry, that tundra build is fine

[wraith badger]

nah it aint good 😭
stippled grip tape on an automatic is rubbish
uss9 excels at long range, so change light suppressor to mono suppressor
laser is kinda alright, but factory barrel should be first responder barrel cus range

[wraith badger]

honestly, peacekeep is kinda weird for me but Imma have to say peacekeep

[wraith badger]

dunno actually, most sweats use krm but honestly, dunno

[wraith badger]

should probably try h20 or hs2

[wraith badger]

maybe cx9 is still one of the best smgs out there
try: cx-38S barrel, cx-FR stock, reddot sight or sleight of hand, 50rnd drums, and ace rear grip

[sharp abyss]

cx9, qq9, uss 9 (gee, lost of 9's) are pretty great. Razorback is also great but it feels like a ar/smg hybrid.

Other than that, I believe there's no bad smg's. Except Chicom. Fuck you chicom.

[spring vortex]

[wraith badger]

@fallen ice a better choppa build is:
monolithic suppressor, chopper infantry barrel, disable, 150rnd mag, and heavy handle (don't try rushing with choppa, you'll regret it. Trust me, I tried 😭 )

[rotund drift]

Can I get a type 19 build please

[wraith badger]

north-industry suppressor, heavy long barrel or merc foregrip (foregrip cus strafe), agile stock, fast reload mag, and polymer grip

[rotund drift]

Thanks

[wraith badger]

no probs

[tidal bear]

Np

[wraith badger]

@faint zenith well done, you got your first gold camo
but your builds are kinda bad 😭
for qq9: monolithic suppressor, recon tag long barrel, no stock, granulated grip tape, 10mm mag

[wraith badger]

😭 just chicom?? sucksblade sucks too

[wraith badger]

qxr getting buffed next update, so I would suggest qxr as well as uss9

[wraith badger]

maxim silencer, 31M barrel, 13mm anti-material drums, skeletal stock, and fmj (Mg42 is a wallbang camping machine, so capitalize on all that wallbang potential)

[wraith badger]

keep an eye on the minimap cus enemies might sneak up to you without you noticing
try to change your HUD and sensitivity to your own liking, there's no one "bESt" senstivity out there
when firing with autos, strafe (move side to side)
if ya need builds, just ping me

[wraith badger]

wait why??? 😭
ffar one of the good aggro ars out there

[wraith badger]

hello

[spring vortex]

It's in the past now bp50 come crashing like crazy

Anyone just beaming w that

[wraith badger]

ye bp50 is broken

dunno if nerf will do much

[sly orchid]

It'll definitely make it better to use in close to mid range

[midnight star]

Hi I'm new to CODM Can someone show me how to have mythical weapons without having to spend money

[spring vortex]

The best u can do is free leggy skin on codm anniversary IF they are generous

[midnight star]

I use a translator talk to me well so that I can understand

[sly orchid]

You can't

[midnight star]

Thank you it’s clear now

[spring vortex]

Btw recently I see ppl using tundra w only 4 mag in snd , is the recommended gunsmith changed for tundra ?

[tidal bear]

Np

[wraith badger]

nope, they be doing tundra wrong 4rnd mag

they're using tiger team barrel without 7rnd, thats stupid

[tidal bear]

Lmao

[brittle moss]

Tundra needs a nerf in body multi and head multi

[tawny walrus]

Not really.

[tawny walrus]

Nah.

[brittle moss]

But fr tho I get 1 shot in ranked

[wraith badger]

but thats what snipers are supposed to do, one-tap

😭

[brittle moss]

I get one tap on the arm.

HDR is better ngl

[wraith badger]

that non-existent flinch recovery tho

and hdr slower than tundra

[tawny walrus]

[hoary flare]

how

[wraith badger]

head multipliers

[spring vortex]

Ooh btw what gunsmith u would recommend for tundra, btw I kinda want to try tundra w/o downloading the base model so it will use the dlq one xD

#makedlqgreatagain

[tawny walrus]

This, but Tiger Team barrel.

[leaden pike]

Both are good I’ve been told

[wraith badger]

ye but tiger team is technically better cus better damage multipliers that make up for the damage decrease from fmj

[wraith badger]

indeed, dlq goated 🙏🏼
my first gold and diamond gun in this game

[wraith badger]

its frickin colossus suppressor all over again

why it so big? 😭 (and no, thats not what she said)

[elfin rampart]

I wanna try y'all's 4 finger huds, drop them codes

[wraith badger]

sorry I play thumbs 😅

[austere igloo]

k

[dim roost]

The recoil is kinda hard to get used to since i didn't max it yet soo it's kinda my fault but maybe I'll try it again when i max it out

[wraith badger]

yeah you gotta get the right attachments

[dim roost]

Its hard to grind the freaking levels when I don't have the purple card thing

[wraith badger]

yeah its a pain at first

[wraith badger]

I only got ~1000 purple ones

[dim roost]

I just gotta wait till the season ends

[wraith badger]

hmm perhaps try playing ffar close range, recoil pattern doesn't matter much cus enemies right in front of you

or play your main guns for a while to get more cards

[dim roost]

Ig

[leaden pike]

Ugh changing t,hat build again

[wraith badger]

yeah I guess so, just hammer forged to tiger team

[dry light]

every game mode

[leaden pike]

Hmm

We seriously getting another legendary dobvra skin like seriously sadly for me I like the legendary character meaning I’ll probably get the the pistol

Next season

At least the leggy dobvra looks better than manta rays dobvra

[wraith badger]

either looks cool for me, cus I aint getting them cus me poor

[dry light]

hdr can 1 tap leg

[broken saffron]

Yeah, I'm suspecting sensitivity is the reason I can't react fast enough on Pro 1. Still don't know what's the optimal sensitivity for me.

No rushing down on ranked at that level

[rich arch]

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@elfin rampart I wanna try your hud

[elfin rampart]

You sure?

It's just a simple one that can be used with two fingers, but mostly use it with 4

[brazen dagger]

so disappointing, why not an m1911 or a shock baton

[sterile flower]

Is this build good?

[bronze oar]

I think it is good

[bronze oar]

Fatty Wanda

[strange rivet]

i mean

looks usable

given the horizontal recoil is an issue (i dont think it should)

otherwise i would use serpent tape instead of bo foregrip

[broken saffron]

ye

[leaden pike]

It will be getting a legendary Shock Baton as well

[broken saffron]

is there a training mde I can fire up to test sensitivity

[dry light]

use takedown

[dry light]

yes, practice range

[broken saffron]

where do I assess it

[dry light]

?

[broken saffron]

can't seem to find it on my screen

[dry light]

because you did not even try to find it

it's in the singleplayer section

[broken saffron]

I found it, it was under BR. Also, no need to be rude. Appreciate the help tho.

[dry light]

it's not under BR section lol, that's different

you wanted MP sens, go here

@broken saffron

[brazen dagger]

hmm

[dry light]

[leaden pike]

oh damn didnt see that

[brazen dagger]

yeah frick this shit

[broken saffron]

are ranks for all modes separate 😮

[strange rivet]

rank mp and rank br are separate

[sterile flower]

How about it?

[dry light]

no

multiplayer and BR only

[strange rivet]

uhh sure

though if you wanna be versatile and walk faster when ads'ing id use sas combat over striker

[wet sapphire]

Is bullet speed an important factor???

[hushed lintel]

Can someone send a pic of lk build

[lilac nova]

Nail gun build plz

[tired grove]

Nail gun doesn’t have any attachments

[lilac nova]

Sad

[tired grove]

Dude, you also copy tych’s gunsmiths?

[sharp abyss]

mono supp, ext. light barrel, no stock, ext mag, gran. grip

Trust me bro

[lilac nova]

Danke

Nail gun best gun

Better than tundra and hdr

[tired grove]

Wth?

Tundra is better than Nail gun

Nail gun is used as a secondary

Also it’s 🚮 for me

[sharp abyss]

I got quad feed with nail gun

its a goofy and fun secondary to use tbh

[wet sapphire]

I would recommend machine pistol 🔫🔫🔫

[hushed lintel]

Can someone give me the build for lk24

[manic crown]

Can I get a build for Oden?

[tired grove]

@strong monolith Can you give me two builds for Type 63 (with optic & without optic)?

[strong monolith]

BR?

Titanium barrel
Spetsnaz ergo grip
AE wrap
Disable
Optic/Compensator
Mods: Long range, Precise, Sniper expert

[tired grove]

No, MP

[strong monolith]

Oh aight
Silencer
Strike team
Duster pad
Striker fg
AE wrap
You can swap stock and fg for spetsnaz ergo + disable

[tired grove]

Oh, thanks

[tired grove]

• Colossus suppressor
• Ranger barrel
• Light stock
• Operator foregrip
• Granulated grip tape

[rich arch]

What’s the best lmg
For passive play

[tired grove]

• Mono suppressor
• Marksman barrel
• Classic red dot
• 40 round mag
• Tactical laser/Granulated grip tape

[rich arch]

I’ll need gunsmith too

[rich arch]

Isn’t stock better than grip tape

[tired grove]

I use this build, so I think grip is ok

[tidal bear]

Np

[tired grove]

I uh didn’t thank you

[tidal bear]

Np

[brazen dagger]

or mag to op fg

this is for next season as colossus will get nerfed

as of rn colossus for mono is better

[tired grove]

Still I didn’t thank you

[rich arch]

What’s the best mg42 gunsmith

[tidal bear]

[dry light]

MG42 MP:-

• Maxim Silencer
• 682MM 31M Barrel
• Skeletal Stock
• Disable/FMJ
• 13mm Mag

[broken saffron]

is switchblade any good?

[atomic summit]

No

[brazen dagger]

it is getting buffed so maybe a bit more but still better options

[rich arch]

Hi

Can u give me a the best tundra build

[potent aspen]

Whats the best sniper for quickscoping and 1 shoting

[rich arch]

No fmj?

[rich arch]

Tundra

[potent aspen]

Ok thanks

[tidal bear]

Np

[crimson steppe]

guys type 25 gunsmith?

[dry light]

tundra/koshka

[dry light]

fmj + tiger team

[vale lichen]

Only with Tiger barrel

[balmy temple]

@grim turret ur build IS good but switch the stock for no stock as you'll probably need the extra mobility

[grim turret]

thx bro, but my gun haven't reach the max (ill grind it later)

[balmy temple]

Oh ok

[grim turret]

does it perform better if i use tactical instead of mono? like i use tactical and mostly engage from close-mid range, it still slaps tho

[primal fulcrum]

What's the best shotgun in the game

[fervent hill]

Is the nerf happening to br oden ? Or just for mp ?

[fervent hill]

Krm

[primal fulcrum]

Are you rly sure ?

[fervent hill]

Yep in my option either between hso or krm

For br

But for mp krm is a lot better best shotgun option

[vale lichen]

Argus for range

R9 overall

[broken saffron]

can anyone recommend a good PDW build

[brazen dagger]

both

[atomic summit]

monolithic suppressor
extended light barrel
light stock
granulated grip tape
tactical laser

[fervent hill]

Ohhh

[wet sapphire]

Bro that link 🤣🤣

[lost hare]

Hello

Quick question

Why I can't send pics here🤔

[thick tree]

Level restriction

Need to be level 35 to do basic things

[lost hare]

Damn 35💀

[thick tree]

Yeah I think it’s ridiculous

[lost hare]

And how do I get my "level" up?

Talking?

[thick tree]

Yup

So start yapping

[lost hare]

Typical

[lost hare]

Yappiti yappiti yap

[stone venture]

is there a better hipfire weapon than ppsh or nah

i mean there used to be mg42

[peak brook]

Burst smgs aren't bad since their hip fire at cqc is really decent.

[stone venture]

unless they get a shadow hipfire buff

they wont have better hipfire than ppsh

[peak brook]

Not a shadow buff. They've just always been decent for hipfire at close range since they have better multis and all bursts have really tight hip fire spread. The only letdown would be the fact that they're burst, so past a certain range the consistency is a bit iffy.

[floral aurora]

Asm10 build mp ranked

[wraith badger]

monolithic suppressor, brason or marksman barrel, no stock, 44 rnd mag, and gran

[wraith badger]

monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, gran, and stoppow mag

[wraith badger]

for mp, either krm or r90

@oak gulch icr excels at being a wannabe lmg, so use:
tactical suppressor, no stock, fmj, macromag, and granulated grip tape
cordite: monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, 80rnd mag, and granulated grip tape

@grim turret tactical suppressor is fine, but light stock needs to be no stock cus better ads movement and ads speed

[wraith badger]

hipfire weapons??
shotguns

[wraith badger]

#┃server-media-passes

[wraith badger]

yeah for close-mid range fights, tact on asm is fine

[primal fulcrum]

Thx btw

[wraith badger]

tundra: tactical suppressor, tiger team barrel, fmj, 7rnd mag, and serpent wrap
koshka: owc light suppressor, short barrel, mobility stock, armor piercer mag, and stippled grip tape

[wraith badger]

no probs

[wraith badger]

mg42, ul, choppa maybe

[wraith badger]

tactical suppressor, marksman barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and granulated grip tape

[wraith badger]

kind of, depends on the gun really

[wraith badger]

striker foregrip to bandit steady stock cus better strafe
elastic wrap to serpent wrap

[stone venture]

excluding shotguns and the na45

[wraith badger]

no sucksblade sucks, use uss9, cx9, or qq9 instead (qxr too)

[wraith badger]

hmmm then I dunno actually
hades??? idk

[neon lark]

Hello, i need best gunsmith of kilo and bp50 for mp ?!

[wraith badger]

kilo as in ar or marksman

[neon lark]

Ar

[wraith badger]

bp50: maxim silencer, rapid barrel, removed stock, 60rnd drums, and stippled grip tape
kilo141: monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, no stock, granulated grip tape, and B mag

[neon lark]

Thank you

And best lmg ?! ( mp )

[wraith badger]

mg42: maxim silencer, 31M barrel, skeletal stock, fmj, and 13mm anti-material drums (use passively)

[neon lark]

❤️

[cerulean geyser]

Best build for Mac-10 and QQ9?

[wraith badger]

mac10: agency suppressor, taskforce barrel, steel stock, 53rnd mag, and aim assist laser
qq9: monolithic suppressor, recon tag long barrel, no stock, 10mm mag, and granulated grip tape

[cerulean geyser]

@wraith badger thank you!

[wraith badger]

No probs

[floral aurora]

Swordfish mp build

[wraith badger]

tact suppressor, light barrel, light stock, halberg mag, and rubberized

[cerulean geyser]

Best QQ9 set-up to get headshots

[leaden pike]

Just swap laser for rds

[cerulean geyser]

Rds?

What's that?

[leaden pike]

Red dot sight

[cerulean geyser]

Oh ok

Thank you!

[lucid zealot]

@nocturne pewter

[nocturne pewter]

Jesus

My games suck

[unreal gale]

oh wow. 0 kd

that is for sure a powerful statement haha (no sarcasm intended)

[cunning escarp]

Best aggressive sniper build?

[obsidian pendant]

With and without suppressor

[dry light]

imagine no suppressor

[wraith badger]

tundra: tactical suppressor, tiger team barrel, fmj, 7rnd mag (not the fast mag), and serpent wrap

koshka: owc light suppressor, short barrel, mobility stock, armor piercer mag, and stippled grip tape

outlaw: tactical suppressor, memorial barrel, combat stock, 9rnd mag, and stippled grip tape

[wraith badger]

honestly, qq9 doesn't require rds, so I'd suggest granulated grip tape instead for more accurate shots (bsa)

[cerulean geyser]

What's bsa?

[wraith badger]

bullet spread accuracy

[cerulean geyser]

Ok, I need headshots rn for the gold skin

[wraith badger]

To grind qq9 to gold, I suggest hardpoint shipment

I grind lmgs there too

[cerulean geyser]

That's what I've been doing for melee too

Frontline nuketown for snipers

[wraith badger]

just got hades and dingo to gold there this week

[wraith badger]

try crossfire for snipers

[cerulean geyser]

Ok

[wraith badger]

best map for golding snipers

[cerulean geyser]

I kinda do both tbh

Thank you

[wraith badger]

no probs

now its pretty late here, dunno about you, but Imma go sleep soon

[wraith badger]

always suppressor

[desert moth]

Bp50

• Maxim Silencer
• Barrel LEROY 438MM Rapid
• stock Leroy Custom
• stippled grip
• .30 russian short 60 rounds

I need opinions for this gun i just got it to max level and I've been using this build what would you recommend?

[quaint lance]

What's the best build for drh mp ranked

[obsidian pendant]

Always suppressor 🍷

[obsidian pendant]

That's passive build

You can replace it with 25otm mag and owc ranger barrel for aggro playstyle.

[quaint lance]

Ty

[rich arch]

does anyone have a good build for the m4

[atomic summit]

Mono suppressor
Light barrel
No stock / Laser
Granulated grip tape
Extended mag

[rich arch]

thanks

[oak gulch]

Can i send those?

[leaden pike]

Okay that build is way overkill

now the mag is good now i do prefer 25 mag as it has no downsides but 30rnd mag isnt bad if ur not accurate enough for the 25rnd, gran, no stock are perfecto, marksman nbarrel is not needed replace with ranger barrel then your build is set to go

[obsidian pendant]

@leaden pike

[leaden pike]

lol sorry Im been blind obviously I’ll shut up

[knotty stream]

5 extra bullets

[hoary flare]

highrise dommy>

[wicked knoll]

No:
Tac Sup
Light Short
40 rd
Op FG
Gran

[hoary flare]

mono>

plus why the need for op fg

just pull down tbh

plus why the 40R mag

50R doesnt kill much mobility for flex M4 imo

[leaden pike]

Well no point showing my build I guess

[hoary flare]

i wlsnt use no stock tho

imo the laser is the interchangavle one

[leaden pike]

Use or not use

Bcs this is the build I use

[craggy nebula]

You better use OWC Marksman for more recoil.

The problem is, the Ads..

[leaden pike]

M4 has no recoil bruh

Why else do you think noobs love it

[craggy nebula]

Yeah, I can see that.

[craggy nebula]

I'm new here.

Of course. I'm not newbie in game.

[leaden pike]

Why would you want to add recoil?

[craggy nebula]

Yes.

[leaden pike]

What

[leaden pike]

You don’t want to add recoil if ur want to add recoil you’d use the opposite of marksman barrel

[leaden pike]

Hmm well you don’t need marksman barrel tbh it’s overkill especially with mono as well

[craggy nebula]

Ohh

[leaden pike]

Will say that free skin is nice got it myself but never use it found it does have aimshake on it

[craggy nebula]

I have 6 blueprints of m4

One legendary 🟨
And 5 Epic 🟪

[leaden pike]

Nice I have 15 I believe

[craggy nebula]

That's good, I guess😁

[leaden pike]

With two legendarys

[craggy nebula]

Black gold Royal and iron song?

[leaden pike]

Meh as I never use m4 they just all got dust on them

[leaden pike]

Nah the Halloween m4

[craggy nebula]

Ohh

[next granite]

Could I please get an oden BR build?

[craggy nebula]

Mythic or not?

[leaden pike]

Why does it matter about if he had mythic or not?

[craggy nebula]

Just asking a question...

[quasi sentinel]

Hi im a PC player and cant find MP Rank it is searching for 5days know i nee full team pls can somebody invite me?

[dry light]

Oden BR:-

• Colossus Suppressor
• Marksman Barrel
• 35 Round Extended Mag
• Optic/Stock
• Operator Foregrip

[leaden pike]

Bcs ur on pc

[dry light]

play on phone and connect to PC later

[leaden pike]

Let’s be fr

[dry light]

you will be in same lobby

[grim turret]

i havent grind it to max yet bro haha, soon ill change it

@leaden pike ill change to no stock if i reached my requierment level of ASM10 🙏

anyway, thx for your build

[leaden pike]

👍

[next granite]

Ty

PKM BR build?

Ik the MP build is like mono, marksman, steady stock, d mag, and fmj

[dry light]

Marksman Barrel, Steady Stock, 200 Mag, Granulated, Disable

[next granite]

Thanks

[tidal bear]

Np

[fading tiger]

In need of Holger LMG gunsmith + Perks for Pushing

[brittle moss]

Who is a garena player here?

[atomic summit]

Those having Garena role in their profile

[knotty stream]

nice

[versed thunder]

Can someone give me a uss-9 build for br

[wet sapphire]

🤟🤟🤟

A good team work 🙂

[undone sandal]

@strong monolith

[strong monolith]

.41 AE mag
5mW
Merc fg
First responder
Mono
Mods: Long range, Hipfire, Ext mag
But overall I don't really recommend USS in BR because of its slow TTK that even ARs can outperform

[digital needle]

Yea .. Even the mythic loot virant is still bad

Nerf sus9 in mp, buff in br

Fair trade balancing

[balmy temple]

Noo

No nerf needed

[scenic stone]

good mp build for razorback?

[pine linden]

any gunsmith ideas of maddox?

[boreal jetty]

i want kilo 141 gunsmith with max ads :)

[dry breach]

monolithic suppressor, extended light barrel, rapid fire perk, A mag, and granulated grip tape

[scenic stone]

Ty

[dry breach]

tactical supp, marksman, no stock extended B and granulated grip

[dry breach]

[boreal jetty]

alr imma try it out

[static vault]

I've seen a lot of steady Fennecs

Any special loadout?

Or just skill?

[dry light]

Steady stock?

[brazen dagger]

finally got diamond on this thing too

[tidal bear]

W 🔥🔥

It's mid but the skin looks beautiful

[static vault]

Like close to zero recoil

Great accuracy too

[dry light]

yeah, operator foregrip

[static vault]

So any special loadout?

[tawny walrus]

People use steady stock to reduce crazy 1.5 hit flinch.

It's only 10% reduction though.

[static vault]

Still a lot

[tawny walrus]

Standard Fennec build is:

mono suppressor
extended barrel
steady stock
extended mag
operator foregrip

[static vault]

Thx

[tawny walrus]

Sometimes I switch extended barrel for red dot, since I don't have P2W skins.

Barrel only gives 10% range.

[static vault]

Sed lyf, same here

You either lose a perk for aim or aim for perk

[static vault]

I am not using it that long range anyways

[tawny walrus]

It's not that much anyways.

Oh, and yeah, toughness perk is mandatory for Fennec.

[static vault]

It reduces hit flinch right?

[tawny walrus]

Yes, by 60%.

[static vault]

Been struggling with that while pushing rank in br

[static vault]

Noice

[tawny walrus]

But you can't use good perks like Quick Fix or Ghost.

[static vault]

Both are good, i think i have cold blooded on most of my loadouts, it's annoying when someone places a sentry gun in front of u, i tried quick fix but not much help

Idk which one i have

Cold blooded or ghost

It sheilds me from ai

[tawny walrus]

I use quick fix for DOM and HP, and Ghost for FL and TDM.

Used to run Cold Blooded for every loadout before it got nerfed.

[static vault]

I only play ftl

[static vault]

What nerf?

[tawny walrus]

Cold blooded used to hide you from controlled score streaks like predator missile or VTOL. Now that Ghost perk does.

[static vault]

Hmm, never knew cold blooded did that

Does ghost save from ai?

[tawny walrus]

Unfortunately, no.

[static vault]

I have cold blooded since not everyone spends time shooting others from the sky, so they use automated scorestreaks

But then there's that one psychopath

And then i die when I leave my cover

Maybe i should switch to ghost on my 2nd assault rifle

[tawny walrus]

I'm trying to counter them. Trophies help against hunter killer drones, for sentries I used their dead zones, and as stealth choppers, I also use dead zones.

[static vault]

So do I but while in a gunfight you don't notice where you stand

[tawny walrus]

Pay attention at mini map, visual alert and announcer.

[solid holly]

Can someone give me a good BP50 loadout?

The load out im using has too long of a ttk

[spring vortex]

Same I need to get rid of my bp50 w rds build :/

[sly orchid]

@spring vortex @solid holly Pretty sure this is the best one

[wraith badger]

sure?

[wraith badger]

maxim silencer, rapid barrel, removed stock, 60rnd drums, and stippled grip tape

[oak gulch]

Thank you.

[wraith badger]

no probs

Me

groza's like bp50's little bro

@balmy imp dlq for br:
owc light suppressor, light barrel, ranger stock, maevwat mag, and disable (use fast ads, ext mag(snipers), and sniper expert mods)

sleight of hand is alright, but disable cus more flinch to enemies is probably better

[real heron]

Hdr and rytec are both substantially better than Dlq in Br tbh

[wraith badger]

but flashbang tho (I agree, regardless)

[rose lava]

thas the thing tho, rytec was made for br

[real heron]

Literally, and then you go into Mp match and remember why 😅

[wraith badger]

@hardy cargo 0

[hardy cargo]

I have been summoned

[wraith badger]

I see a hipfire laser, foregrip, and sight on m4 = Zero

monolithic suppressor, marksman barrel, no stock, 50rnd mag, and gran is better

[wraith badger]

echo fire mod, agile stock, task force quickdraw, A mag, and aim assist laser (I'm grinding maddox right now too, actually)
with this build, maddox only has vertical recoil which you can control super easily

[wraith badger]

tactical suppressor, no stock, disable, granulated, and foregrip A
try lightweight, vulture, and persistence maybe

[wraith badger]

@clear knoll ak47: monolithic suppressor, ranger barrel, no stock, B mag, and granulated grip tape (This is for mp, not br)

the tundra build is perfection

[wraith badger]

try replacing that barrel for short barrel to increase ads speed

[wraith badger]

thats fine, but bp50 excels at aggroing, so I'd suggest replacing the custom stock with removed stock since the recoil pattern on bp50 is extremely easy to control

[wraith badger]

why rds?? 😭
iron sight clean asf

[undone sandal]

more so why not

[wraith badger]

?

[undone sandal]

personal preference g

id argue only mandatory attachments for bp is rapid barrel and 60rnd

rest just complement whatever you do

[wraith badger]

hmm fair fair

[undone sandal]

you can bring up 30rnd if you want to
use it if you want to keep the 4sk potential next season

other than that there's no reason to run 30

[wraith badger]

I mean, if I play bp50 in shipment, 60rnd drums is still viable right?

[undone sandal]

ofc

60rnd is still the go-to mag

[wraith badger]

Thanks 🙏🏼
and about type19 nerf, merc foregrip might work, right?

[undone sandal]

yeah

[wraith badger]

[young shale]

what was nerfed in thetyp19 again?

[undone sandal]

agile stock

20% strafe to 15%

[wraith badger]

wait I thought it was 30% to 20%?

[undone sandal]

i was thinking of oden light stock mb

yeah 30 to 20

[wraith badger]

yeah so agile stock's strafe boost of 30% got nerfed to 20%

[young shale]

i mean it's not that bad

[wraith badger]

yeah it's not that bad (for me), but others might disagree

[undone sandal]

it isn't that bad

[young shale]

i mean to me, t19 is a little passive imo

[undone sandal]

strafe isn't a big deal nowadays

since ttk is so fast

either you or the enemy already died before you can utilize the strafe boost

[wraith badger]

by the way: thoughts on maddox echo?? I'm grinding that right now, dunno if the grind will be painful or not 😅

[young shale]

it's just a worse 3 tap ar

[undone sandal]

worth unlocking if you don't have it yet
but just a worse oden

[young shale]

its 2 tap is effective only until past 10m

other that it becomes a 3 tap

[wraith badger]

hmm so if I grind the hell out of it in shipment, its fine?

[young shale]

grinding gold?

[undone sandal]

thats fine lol

[wraith badger]

ye, grinding gold

cus bored

[young shale]

should be fine, maddox isn't that detrimental

[undone sandal]

echo is better than base

but yeah

[young shale]

like grinding a d13 or a launcher

[young shale]

ofc

[wraith badger]

yes that is definitely true

only echo fire on maddox

[undone sandal]

i don't have the stats on me rn but i cld give you ttk for maddox ef

[wraith badger]

Sure

[undone sandal]

send shots in burst
fire interval in burst and between burst

[wraith badger]

Weren't one of those numbers like 27ms or something?

[undone sandal]

yeah

[wraith badger]

aight good, so Imma go grind maddox, I guess

[undone sandal]

iirc its 28ms / 111 ms

[wraith badger]

Oh 28ms, well I was close

[undone sandal]

3sk 139ms
4sk 167ms
5sk 278ms

[wraith badger]

thanks 🙏🏼

[undone sandal]

should give you an idea

[ruby iris]

Raal leaks?

[undone sandal]

none atm afaik

[ruby iris]

Unfortunate

[undone sandal]

you could prob base off raal description in community post but idk if thats getting you anywhere

[wraith badger]

raal looks cool, not gonna lie

but most likely a passive lmg

[undone sandal]

id take this description w a grain of salt

we all know what happened with fal

[young shale]

i dont get the point of adding more weapons, if the current weapons let alone are hella broken

[undone sandal]

gotta keep adding more shit so game doesnt become stagnant

more weapons more variety

[strong monolith]

If you take the CN description it says the following
"Support LMG that features a recoil-reducing reciprocating barrel design, mitigating the high recoil of the powerful .338 ammunition. The advanced titanium alloy structure helps to reduce the weight, making it easier to handle"

[young shale]

they are very descriptive with their description

[undone sandal]

thats a lot more detailed

[solid holly]

Whats a gun i can use to climb ranked really easily

[young shale]

it definitely wouldn't become stagant if they could balance the abused weapons 🔥🙏

what the point of adding more variation when people would still use like bp50 or mg42

[solid holly]

Whats a gun i can use to climb ranked really easily

[strong monolith]

Always good to have that option yknow?

[undone sandal]

bp50 uss9

aren't hard to use

[solid holly]

Can you give me a build for which one ks better

[undone sandal]

both are good

[solid holly]

Is*

[solid holly]

Which is better

[wraith badger]

bp50: maxim silencer, rapid barrel, removed or custom stock, 60rnd drums, and stippled grip tape

uss9: monolithic suppressor, first responder barrel, ultralight stock, AE 32rnd mag, and long shot or sleight of hand

I think these are right

[undone sandal]

maxim silencer
rapid barrel
60 rnd mag
stippled grip
custom stock

mono supp
first responder
woodstock/ultralight
.41 rnd mag
rds/perk/any laser

builds for both guns

[solid holly]

Ty guys

[stone venture]

for hipfire guns

[wraith badger]

no probs

[stone venture]

if we're excluding shotguns

what you need to take in account is the hipfire spread and the fire rate

[solid holly]

Wish i had this mythic its so good

[stone venture]

mg42 has like a maximum hipfire spread of 120 at max hipfire

but minimum is at 30 which is 10 less than ppsh

no idea what it means

someone said that each gun has a bullet taper which slowly decreases the accuracy

the longer you fire it for

[undone sandal]

yeah but we don't know what it is for hipfire

[stone venture]

yeah because

lowkey now tht im comparing it

[undone sandal]

how many bullets it takes

[stone venture]

despite the maximum hipfire spread being 120 for mg42

[undone sandal]

cuz we can get ads taper easily

[stone venture]

it still seems like it has a smaller bullet cone than ppsh

which has a lower maximum hipfire spread

[undone sandal]

can't just assume taper length for ads is the same as hipfire

[undone sandal]

ya that makes sense

10 pt difference is p big

[stone venture]

no like

its a 40 pt difference in max

[undone sandal]

ya thats big

[stone venture]

yet mg42 still seems like it has a smaller cone

ppsh has a smaller max hipfire acc

[undone sandal]

thing w bsa is

u need lots of samples to conclude

if it has smaller cone than the other

[stone venture]

yeah probably

[undone sandal]

yeah u can jus check comparison n compare there

[stone venture]

type 25 might come in 2nd in hipfire

[undone sandal]

but

if u want to see that in practice

u wld need lots of samples

[stone venture]

fair enough

3rd is def ppsh

i mean akimbo weapons beat them both

but ion like akimbo

someone said pp19 had good hipfire but i tested it and its some ass

i thought it would have some invisible stat that would make it better than ppsh

but nah its js wrong

mg42 very easily beats hades when it comes to hipfire

[dry light]

whoever said this is on some real stuff

[stone venture]

i saw it on codm reddit

[dry light]

of course

[stone venture]

some guy asked for best hipfire smg

[undone sandal]

this is uzi taper for example
checked it out when gun just released

[stone venture]

and alot of the answers were either fennec or pp19

for some reason

fennec is good for hipfire, when you put akimbo on it

[dry light]

even normal fennec is one of the best

[stone venture]

not for hipfire

its like 9th

[dry light]

fennec, ppsh, msmc are good in hipfiring

[stone venture]

it gets beaten by ppsh, mg42

[dry light]

especially for hipfiring cqc SMGs

[stone venture]

type 19

cx9

[dry light]

last time I checked, mg42 is not an SMG

[stone venture]

im psure cx9 is better

[stone venture]

mb