codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

kn44 is better than lk now (LK has better skins unfortunately) and for kilo we have ak117 which kills faster for less mobility

[drifting lava]

Which better ak47 or ak117

[rich arch]

RK-62 > G36K ☝️🤓

[rich arch]

they play very differently

AK47 is a more passive DRH whilst 117 acts like a flex gun

[hoary flare]

damn

[rich arch]

deffo didn't steal that from that one reddit post

[hoary flare]

istg garenan KRM kids are something else

[elfin zodiac]

Whats the best reticle for holographic sight 2?

[hoary flare]

they have like 0 gamesense

[hoary flare]

bluedot

[elfin zodiac]

Alright thanks

[hoary flare]

np

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Blue dot

Its the only good one

[hoary flare]

yes

[rich arch]

me when downward curve and close quarters

[rich arch]

yet you use ironsights

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

they're cleaner than having a full circle on your dot

🥵

Not a hard misson

[hoary flare]

lmao

omg krm kidssss

they are actually something else

[hoary flare]

damn what is Sisco cooking

oopsie

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud

[hoary flare]

he called SBX9 the best smg

[rich arch]

if you know how to use hollow point, then you can consider he‘s speaking facts

hollow point ttk is very fast

[hoary flare]

ranger grip:

[hoary flare]

no its switchblade

[rich arch]

wait sx9?

[hoary flare]

yeh

[rich arch]

it is not best indeed

[hoary flare]

not cx9

[rich arch]

but not mid

[hoary flare]

indeed it isnt

its just borderline

he didnt mention chicom 😭

[rich arch]

what does he cook again?

ranger fg on what

[hoary flare]

burst CX

[rich arch]

lmao

[hoary flare]

he's a tac supp glazer

[rich arch]

?????

wtf is this piece of shit

[hoary flare]

exactly

no light stock, no gran

[rich arch]

stripped and combat stock?

why not gran and light stock

[bold cliff]

Any snipers around?

[hoary flare]

yes

[hoary flare]

thats the thing

[rich arch]

much better build

[hoary flare]

he uses strike stock on his "flex" build

[hoary flare]

but no mono

but yes ill consider it a slight improvement

[rich arch]

supp is all on preference unless you hate taper

[hoary flare]

i see

@bold cliff please dont friend me

i dont accept randoms

[bold cliff]

U wanna get to know me huh

[rich arch]

stippled is crazy

[hoary flare]

fr

[rich arch]

combat stock, id consider but stippled, nah you should commit toaster bath

[rich arch]

Wtf

[hoary flare]

real

[rich arch]

Wtaf

[rich arch]

Dont let sisco cook

Bro needs to stick to snipers

[rich arch]

i remember his editor had mono vs tac in his vid and the bar stats gave like decreased accuracy but better range then when tac supp came, the accuracy bar is increased but the range bar isn't decreased

[hoary flare]

fr

[rich arch]

Bar stats..

[rich arch]

its like a bar stat animation but pure misinformation

like how ferg's editor does vertical bar stats

[rich arch]

old build
this is hp mx9 when mx9 is still meta

because the amount of sound suppression is low due to poor map design

[hoary flare]

damn

[rich arch]

Yes, in Chart tho

[bright cloud]

Wow thats a horrid list

[bright cloud]

I watched tjaz vid sadly

[hoary flare]

ye

[rich arch]

Tjaz

[bright cloud]

He also used stippled on pdw

[bright cloud]

Fak you

[bright cloud]

[rich arch]

I can’t correct that word smh

[sudden nebula]

Switchblade pro build

Please

[tidal bear]

Yes

[sudden nebula]

Thanks so much

[tidal bear]

Np

[rich arch]

Mono

[tidal bear]

Not worth it imo

Loses bsa for a lil bit of range

[rich arch]

Its effective range is dookie regardless

[bright cloud]

@sudden nebula this but monolithic suppressor btw

[sudden nebula]

Okay

[hoary flare]

bro use sisco build

gri said mono better

albeit the minimal range boost

[tidal bear]

I don't even watch his videos

[rich arch]

No player owns a build

[rich arch]

"loses bsa"
bsa is shit enough to begin with

still good till 20m

real

how to fix shit foregrip problem

put a rare skin

[tidal bear]

I'm not a pro gunsmither, so

[hoary flare]

imo skelly stock

[bright cloud]

Tectonic:

Cuz heis builds are spegial

[rich arch]

I have no idea who that is

[rich arch]

well, now you know mono on smgs is a no brainer

[rich arch]

mf with
tac sup
elb
ranger grip
fmj
magb

on his kilo

[rich arch]

Oh that guy

Yes, that build belongs to him

[rich arch]

im not gonna use it anytime soon (unless im gonna get mastery for it but its so garbage)

[hoary flare]

strafe and ads speed

[rich arch]

tbf 2% diff is not that huge (unless grau because mid af)

so imma put skelly

[hoary flare]

reel

[tidal bear]

Crazy

[rich arch]

so actually there's another problem being flinch

[hoary flare]

toughness

[rich arch]

its aggro anyway so who cares

[hoary flare]

real

[orchid basin]

I need a Koshka build

[hoary flare]

mobility stock
light barrel
light supp
stippled tape
AP mag

[orchid basin]

Ty

[hoary flare]

np np

[rich arch]

light supp/fast aim (tundra has better blankscope than fast aim koshka anyway lmao)

[cursive kayak]

Dragunov build anyone?

SVD I mean

Well this specifically I'm hung up on, don't know if the range difference matters or not

[hoary flare]

real

[hoary flare]

build it passively

[cursive kayak]

So don't use it aggressively?

[bright cloud]

660mm barrel
Monolithic suppressor
Steady stock
Disabled
15 round mag

[bright cloud]

No you cant

[bright cloud]

Its way too fucked for aggro so just go passive

[hoary flare]

scope can be uh fmj/disable

[cursive kayak]

Understandable

[hoary flare]

mag can be interchangable

[cursive kayak]

Is the M21 alright for aggressive then? Been in the mood for another semi auto sniper

[bright cloud]

Yes

Cuz it can have actual good ads speed

[cursive kayak]

[bright cloud]

And it has rly good rof for a sniper

[cursive kayak]

This good then?

[rich arch]

light supp and fmj to tac grip

[rich arch]

how do you actually play it tho

like just 2tap after ads

[cursive kayak]

I don't care to use a suppressor

[hoary flare]

no supp

[cursive kayak]

Ye, maybe compensator to help with recoil?

[rich arch]

can you play ebr passive like sksksks

[rich arch]

then ads speed is cucked

[hoary flare]

doesnt it kill ads speed

[rich arch]

tac gripfor flinch

then fmj to disable or smth

[hoary flare]

disable imo

[rich arch]

if he doesn't use a suppressor then tac grip and disable

[cursive kayak]

Disable would be preferable yes

[shadow hound]

Ebr 😦

[hoary flare]

i take back my words

[hoary flare]

ebr 🤑

[ruby iris]

Buff ebr

[cursive kayak]

I agree

[ruby iris]

Add full auto

[hoary flare]

increase 1sk hitbox

[rich arch]

make it SVD with better rof and worse recentering frfr

[hoary flare]

based

ebr 800 from IW

[rich arch]

OMG SO-14 FULL AUTO MOD!1!1

[hoary flare]

sniper which can be convertred into AR

[rich arch]

make it an AMP so that you can use ironsights

🤑

[hoary flare]

to convert it into an AR, just fold down the scope

clean irons

[rich arch]

when AMP for ebr14 😔

full auto with those irons

then make the damage be a 3stk with a high potential to 2tsk

[rich arch]

like oden because 10rd mag

[hoary flare]

something like this

[rich arch]

or increase base mag by 10 when you use full auto mode

[rich arch]

sidefucked mag like cordite 🤑🤑🤑

[hoary flare]

it has like 32 bullets for the full auto mode

8 for sniper mode

[rich arch]

+20> to base mag when you put full auto frfr

on ebr14

[hoary flare]

real

[rich arch]

full auto ebr petition

[ruby iris]

4r burst sniper?

[hoary flare]

nope

semi

[strange rivet]

Speaking of burst when is FR finally getting a burst conversion

As a repeater like tec, a mag like the semi auto rifle mags, or a perk like m16 wild fire

Or a barrel like the makarov's sorokin auto

[strong monolith]

That brings the question of
What niche would it fulfill that doesn't clash with other burst guns?

[strange rivet]

Convert to marksman and add iron sights petition

[rich arch]

make it an m16 but range is absolutely garbage for better consistency

just like what they did to cx9 hp vs tec9 burst

[marsh anvil]

Ello

[tulip fox]

Am still confused whether I should use aim assist laser or leroy stock in my bp50

[hoary flare]

depends

personally id use leroy

[tulip fox]

What's the difference

[austere sand]

anyone got a good red dot build for the m13?

[tulip fox]

I keep hearing bsa bsa but idk what tht is

[hoary flare]

bullet spread accuracy

[austere sand]

you got one that has a bit more control?

[hoary flare]

no

just learn recoil, not that hard

[austere sand]

i know recoil, but i was trying to make it a mid-long range gun

[hoary flare]

for what purpose

[austere sand]

hardpoint and snd

[vocal glade]

sup

[hoary flare]

first build works well

[austere sand]

Ill try it

[hoary flare]

kk

[bright cloud]

Laser is muchh better but its laser

[tulip fox]

So keep it instead of Leroy stock?

[bright cloud]

Yes except if you play snd a lot

[marsh anvil]

Ello

[rich arch]

sponsor me 500cp because yes

[gusty obsidian]

Can yall tell me what attachments this gun has please. Stole it off a guy and destroyed thw lobby with it

@bright cloud

Do u know what barrel he has. I cant tell cus it shows the mythic thingy

[bright cloud]

Leroy barrel
Just replace the stock for aim assist laser

[gusty obsidian]

🫡thanks muvh

[eternal crown]

what is the best bolt action sniper

[unreal gale]

It’s my build. The actual best build, not gris laser build

[ruby iris]

Tundra

[gusty obsidian]

Is the stippled grip tape better than the stock?

[native canopy]

Agreed

[bright cloud]

Yes

[bright cloud]

Tundra

[hasty coral]

I need pharo attachment

[sinful reef]

Is there a bp50 long range build

[gusty obsidian]

Nkt really. Put the rapid barrel and then maximise bullet spread

Id suggest maxim silencer, aim assist laser, stippled and the 60 rnd mag

@sinful reef

[shell socket]

best close range lmg? and the best build for it

[sinful reef]

I'll test it out

[viral stone]

Sup

[rich arch]

North Industry Heavyweight Suppressor

[unreal gale]

yeah I'm ngl the base bp feels better

[rich arch]

Wild

[rich arch]

Hades

[unreal gale]

wait wait, base bp feels so good the heck

[rich arch]

Yes

[south cypress]

Any suggestions for my build?

[rich arch]

Rapid barrel, stipple rear grip tape

And a silencer, cus though some may say they don't need silencers, bp50 silencer actually has really good benefits

[rich arch]

Idk why you went for the muzzle, grip, or barrel

But yeah use maxim suppressor, rapid barrel, and stippled tape

[sinful reef]

Wow Bp50 is actually not bad if built for long-range

[proud quail]

What would be a good holger build for stopping snipers with high ttk and very low flinch?

For mp

Haven't played for a couple months so idk what really changed

[gusty obsidian]

Tbh mg42 probs the best or hades

[rich arch]

Doesn't exist

[proud quail]

I mean not completely dominate snipers but enough to counter them I mean

With a moderate ttk and very low recoil which will obviously decrease movement

Hypothetically

[rich arch]

TBF, mg42 is way better for that but you can ask @bright cloud

[proud quail]

Is mg42 a new lmg?

[rich arch]

Yes, the best one currently

Makes snipers cry

[proud quail]

How long before it's nerfed like the razorback though

That one time the razorback was broken good ol days

[rich arch]

It's been nerfed already and still shreds

[proud quail]

Do you have the lil build 🥹

[rich arch]

Nope, sorry

[proud quail]

😭

[shell socket]

what builds

[rich arch]

Turns I do have it

[rich arch]

Mg42:
Maxim silencer
VDD 682MM
Kraunstick S91
FMJ
Anti material rounds

[proud quail]

🤌✨

Wait there's 2 c:

[rich arch]

His has more strafe than mine

[proud quail]

In return what does it remove from yours

[rich arch]

The stock gives it more ar-like mobility which is pretty huge

[proud quail]

Oki

[proud quail]

Ads is still the same slowness but ima still use yours

Also which perks should I use it with?

[rich arch]

Yeah thats the passive/flex build
If you’re countering snipers youre not gonna be targeting fast ads really

[proud quail]

Ye ik

[rich arch]

Depends on mode and preference

[proud quail]

So wait you have different builds for different modes 🥹

[rich arch]

More or less

[proud quail]

Do you have one for kill confirmed? C:

[rich arch]

Uhh thats more aggressive usually

[proud quail]

But on the large maps

[rich arch]

Fyi do not use recoil booster ignore that

But uh if younwant more ads speed theres a krausnick-something stock that increases ads speed and bsa

[proud quail]

Ah ty

[rich arch]

s91mg

Oh

[rich arch]

i have figured out the reason why most players when they do the cancer 250 + max rof they use granular instead of skeletal stock

because the stoopids dont like the stf increase

🗿

[hoary flare]

recoil boozter + krausnick rapid

[hoary flare]

almost the same build as my aggro mg

just replace stock for S91

[rich arch]

guys use 450mm barrel trust

if FFAR has good ttk then 450mm is just slightly faster than FFAR

[short heron]

Hello guys, anyone here has a good gunsmith to switchblade x9 to share please

[rich arch]

use skeleton stock instead of light stock

[true owl]

Someone give me a sks loadout 🥲

[tardy vessel]

Anyone got a ffar build

[rich arch]

Takedown barrel
Agency sup
44 rd fast mag
Serpent wrap
Banditnstock

[rich arch]

Could replace tf barrel for takedown

I also see some replace mag to any of extended

Pasen clase de la Agr

[rich arch]

No

WAIT I MEANT TAKEDOWN CRAP

[cunning galleon]

i cant beat em so imma join em. anyone got mg42 classes?

preferably for obj/passive but anything is fine

[rich arch]

Taskforce actually worked but people think recoil is too big

[rich arch]

Way less range and all wirh those cons is just not worth it

[rich arch]

BV makes it worth already

CN most used build is involved with taskforce

[viral stone]

South industry lightweight suppressor

[rich arch]

@bright cloud how useful is the bullet speed compared to range and all

Can't wait to see CN Vs Global showdown playoff btw

[rich arch]

[viral stone]

Lol

[hoary flare]

fr

[hoary flare]

light supp mentioned, instant bad!

[rich arch]

Not if you are going thermite mow and marksman

[hoary flare]

ik, light supp bad but on some guns is good

[viral stone]

Long time no see I am gojo satoru

[hoary flare]

Snipers (except outlaw, SVD, XPR)
PPSh
swordfish
DMRs (except sks)

[hoary flare]

i see

[cunning galleon]

anyone??

[undone sandal]

outlaw 😔

[rich arch]

Hitmark

And no burst mod

[proud quail]

Saddens me that the lmg will one day be nerfed

[proud quail]

So wait when they compete what version they gonna play cn or global?

[rich arch]

South Indolence Lightweight Volumizer

[rich arch]

maxim supp
skeleton/s91mg stock
13mm mag
vdd 682mm barrel
any rear grip/disable/fmj/optic

[rich arch]

All of them use a specialized version that is designed for competitive play

[static sand]

Would the laser build be better for bp 50 instead of stipled grip in re-spawn modes?

[hoary flare]

just bsa stack

[viral stone]

North East Heavyweight equlaizer

[bright cloud]

God you put way too much trust in cn

[bright cloud]

First of all takedown>taskforce

Second of all bv is least important part of ttk profile
Its more so like bsa then damage of that makes sense

[rich arch]

Ik takedown is better
But ye was wondering about specifics

[bright cloud]

Laser instead of stock for respawns

[rich arch]

EastWest Factory Weighted Pipe

[bright cloud]

@rich arch if anythibg is confusing you when you talk to him its this btw

[rich arch]

[viral stone]

North East West South United universtile barrel

[bright cloud]

Yea

Also you gotta agree that emoji is PEAK

So peak in fact whenever you ping me in cyg familia that emoji comes up

[rich arch]

I alr had the still version in like 3 diff servers so the animated one is nice ye

[undone sandal]

garena masters isnt played on tournament client

[strange rivet]

Mm yes -5% range reduction on ppsh

I remember

It was also good on man o war when thermite was good from what I saw

[bright cloud]

Still is

If you use thermite mag light suppressor si the obvious choice

[hoary flare]

yeah

[sudden nebula]

Locus!

Locus best

[rich arch]

Almost worst

[hoary flare]

❌

[sudden nebula]

Huh

[hoary flare]

it isnt good

[tidal bear]

Tundra?

[strange rivet]

Want a build or sum

Or asking if tundra is better than the other snipers

[tidal bear]

I mean how good that is

Been away with codm for months now idk whats good or bad

[strange rivet]

From what I'm hearing it's the best sniper

Bolt action at least

[tidal bear]

I see

[hoary flare]

yes

[rich arch]

supergri dropped sniper list!1!1!1!1!

5 meta
1 niche/mid
6 ass

@bright cloud sniper discussion bring out the list!1!1!1

educate our audience with your genius intellect

[bright cloud]

5 meta snipers= Tundra, Xpr, Koshka, Rytec, Hdr
Niche sniper-zrg
Trash snipers- Outlaw, Dlq, Locus, Ebr, Svd

[strange rivet]

Rip dlq

[hoary flare]

fr fr

[rich arch]

LightWeight 3
segxpr
kosh 🐄
rytec
hadir's devastating rectal cancer

hdr lite

revolver
dlquck
locusnt
american midget rifle
russian midget rifle

[rich arch]

Accurate ig

[bright cloud]

Wow

[rich arch]

Outlaw and dlq arent trash though imo

[rich arch]

finally have names for my snipers

Just under par

[rich arch]

rytec/tundra/koshka and xpr alr outplay them tho

Hence the under par

But if dlq is “trash” then so is zrg since theyre extremely similar

[uneven rapids]

Dlq is better than zrg

[rich arch]

Zrg is mildly better in every way except 3 less capacity and way slower reload

[uneven rapids]

Tundra is best

[rich arch]

Yeah no not really

[uneven rapids]

How bro

[rich arch]

How isn’t it

[uneven rapids]

Dlq has fast ads

[rich arch]

Zrg has faster ads soeed

Better mobility, better bolt speed, better penetration

Worse ammo significantly though

[uneven rapids]

But no one uses zrg

[rich arch]

Because people don’t know stats

Same reason mfs still use grau and sb and holger

And locus for goodness sake

[uneven rapids]

Zrg is trash

[rich arch]

No, but your knowledge is

[uneven rapids]

So let's do a vote

Which gun is better

[bright cloud]

Dawg
Zrg has faster ads speed
Faster mobility
Way better wall penetration
Same everything else

[uneven rapids]

Dlq or zrg

[bright cloud]

No lets look at facts like people with a brain

[rich arch]

Just worse ammo

[rich arch]

How is dlq better

Besides ammo ofc

[bright cloud]

Zrg has insane wall pen btw

[rich arch]

Ik

[bright cloud]

Thats why i put it in niche

[rich arch]

.

[bright cloud]

Why should anybody care what others use ffs

[rich arch]

Hdr has the same no?

[bright cloud]

Remember the guy who trusts cn way too much?

[uneven rapids]

Fine

[bright cloud]

No

[uneven rapids]

Zrg better

[rich arch]

He likes all three of thosenik

[uneven rapids]

But tundra best

[rich arch]

Ofc

[uneven rapids]

What's ur rank

[bright cloud]

Yes

Alongside xpr for versatile playstyle

Ofc if you play aggro koshka is better
Or if you play passive hdr is betted

[uneven rapids]

U r right

[rich arch]

Leggy

[uneven rapids]

My rank is grand master 4

[rich arch]

Tundra with serpent better for aghro technically

[uneven rapids]

I have serpent one

[rich arch]

Granted you meatride airborne

[bright cloud]

Nah he said smrh that hit me like a flashbang. It was a reality check on just how much people are delusional

,,All new weapons were broken and replaced old weapons

Type 19 replaced grau
Mg42 replaced holger
Bp50 replaced almost all ars"

Notice the mistake here

[rich arch]

Only the middle is wrong

[bright cloud]

Nah. Even tho 1f faster ads speed koshcow has other pros

[rich arch]

Bc t19 is so similar to grau

[bright cloud]

Yes.....wrong by a lot

[rich arch]

Well ofc

[uneven rapids]

Well I will go now

[bright cloud]

Which hit me like a flashbang that HOLGER is still in the conversation

[rich arch]

I can’t find an lmg holger does better than tbh

[uneven rapids]

Byee

[rich arch]

Ranked mindset + low reekoil

[bright cloud]

Even tho there were 4 better flex lmgs after holger nerf

[bright cloud]

Nah he said

,,No other lmg was better at that playstyle

Ul doesnt count ul is passive"

Second part is right but first no

[rich arch]

Sob

[bright cloud]

And then few people from campers agreed

[rich arch]

My exact point is homger isn’t better at anything than any other lmg

Lane holding? Pkm, chopper, rpd??

[bright cloud]

Like holy shit did people.....just forget about other flex lmgs?

[rich arch]

Camping? Pkm, ul

[true pond]

damn is locus so bad ? people in rank glorify it so much

[rich arch]

Aggro? Hades, bruen, etc

[bright cloud]

Its just useless

[rich arch]

Funny bc I rarely see locus ranked plausrs actually do well

[bright cloud]

No reason to use it

[rich arch]

“Locus best sniper” yet the ratio of locus to tundra mvps in my games is hilarious

[bright cloud]

Flex lmgs
Mg41/t19lmg>bruen>dingo>hades passive>(optional) kilo100>holgae>chopper

[true pond]

its no so bad in mine . if i look around ill find a locus with diamond camo on arctic skin 💀

[rich arch]

Dingo exists now sheesh

[unreal gale]

Meanwhile heated gunsmith debate

[rich arch]

I see them often as well they just never do well

[bright cloud]

What

[rich arch]

Every time im speccing a locus player as the last man standing ik its lost

[true pond]

true

[rich arch]

And sure enough they rarely clutch bc after they get one kill the others are on top of them

[unreal gale]

Base bp better than mythic

[true pond]

i saw a lb player miss 8 shots 💀

[unreal gale]

I think bp will be the best

[true pond]

maybe it was his bad day

or he just sucks

[rich arch]

Both

Even on my bad days I won’t miss 8 and im not a sniper

[true pond]

true

[unreal gale]

If you can’t hardscope, you’re not a sniper

[rich arch]

💀

[unreal gale]

You’re just an auto main who likes using a sniper

[rich arch]

Lets just not

[unreal gale]

Hard scoping > quick scoping

[rich arch]

Completely different territories

[unreal gale]

In terms of both effectiveness and skill

[unreal gale]

Real snipers don’t quick scope

[rich arch]

Yeah no I hate hardscopers bc I can barely see at range

[bright cloud]

Yes

[rich arch]

And theyre the polar opposite

I almsot never see a hardcoper that is good at anything else

[unreal gale]

Unless you’re a bloody TikToker playing at a whole tier below his usual mmr, rushing and quick scoping is very poor decision making

[unreal gale]

If you watch comp (na is live rn), everyone hardscopes

Those guys are the true snipers

[rich arch]

Thats something I’ll never agree on

[unreal gale]

The same people who can hit people crossing mid in dust 2 in csgo

[rich arch]

Yes they fit the technological term of sniping more

[unreal gale]

Those are true snipers

Valorant snipers, the people that can flick a jumping target

Those are true snipers

And none of the above bloody runs into the base quick scoping

[rich arch]

[unreal gale]

Snipers need a level of precision in their aim that auto mains can only dream of

And quick scoping doesn’t need any of that

Again, quick scoping is just shotgunning with a sniper

You might as well use by15

[rich arch]

By15 slugs scoping takes a ton of skill ngl

[unreal gale]

It’s shotgunning

[rich arch]

Thenthing with snipers isnthey have huge aim assit
By doesnt

[unreal gale]

It’s not sniping

[rich arch]

One pellet loses that power

[unreal gale]

I wouldn’t say so

[rich arch]

Bro I literally can’t hit shots with by15
It feels like the bullet has the tiniest hitbox in thw world

[unreal gale]

By15 is a red dot, so the error margin is way bigger

[rich arch]

As opposed to argus with I perform well with

[unreal gale]

The gun is a lot blunter

[unreal gale]

Use a red dot

[unreal gale]

Still use a red dot

[bright cloud]

Yes

[unreal gale]

Quick scoping isn’t sniping

[bright cloud]

No

[unreal gale]

It’s literally shotgunning with a sniper

Hard scoping is what true sniping is

It’s just codm players are mobile players and their aim isn’t good enough to actually hardscope

[bright cloud]

Quickscoping is still useful

[rich arch]

I did

[bright cloud]

You can just.......do both

[reef blade]

Does fmj perk even work?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[rich arch]

This

[bright cloud]

There is a reason snipers are built with ads speed in mind

[unreal gale]

Ofc. I mean if they get close you’re not just gonna throw your hands up

[bright cloud]

Cuz you can do both

[unreal gale]

But you shouldn’t be looking to run in and quick scope the whole team

You only quick scope when you have no choice

Snipers disengage

[reef blade]

How much effective is it? Is there any % ?

[bright cloud]

Thats why tundra is so good tbh
1.4 flinch
283.333ms ads spees
Above average blankscope
Above average mobility
Option for all 3 utikities

[unreal gale]

It’s a strategy thing. You pick the hardscope fights

[bright cloud]

Yes lemme find tychs chart

[reef blade]

Alright

[unreal gale]

Try again with claw

By15 sucks if you thumbs

[rich arch]

I did with claw

[unreal gale]

Then just bad

Jkjk

[bright cloud]

Here is mr potatos instead

[rich arch]

No youre right

[bright cloud]

And hopefuly soon mine when ge finishes wall pen project

[rich arch]

Im very bad with different things

[reef blade]

Thanks

[bright cloud]

[rich arch]

Ugh I hate my gameplay lately

[bright cloud]

This only takes acvount for 1 wall btw. We working on how multiple walls affect damage

[rich arch]

Literally spraying half a bp mag in <10m

[unreal gale]

Can you guys do a aimshake project instead?

People will definitely care about that more

[reef blade]

What does that mean

[unreal gale]

And recoil project

And try figure out what makes a gun feel sharp

Again, matters a lot more

I’m not gonna switch to icr because it has 100% wall pen for example

[bright cloud]

I was actually thinking about that too aftsr taoer or smth

[unreal gale]

Yeah

[bright cloud]

I didnt either
I seutched cuz of that SWEET SWEET SUCCULENT BI

[unreal gale]

They figure out what makes type19 mythic sharp and chopper blunt as heck

[bright cloud]

I need to do that for mine and fantas spreadsheet anyway

Its a stat missing in the spreadsheet rn

[bright cloud]

Wont happen

[unreal gale]

300ms is just too slow

And the gun also adses super slow

Not a great combo for mid range fights

[bright cloud]

Nobody will ever figure out tf you mean by sharp and blunt

[bright cloud]

290ms? Thats as fast as t19

[unreal gale]

Wait what? No way

It felt super sluggish

[rich arch]

Icr too slow for me I tried it

[rich arch]

Fr

[bright cloud]

Did you use my build or?

[unreal gale]

Yeah

With the macro mag

[bright cloud]

@rich arch dawg do you know whats sharp/blunt

[bright cloud]

Wierd

[unreal gale]

Type19 is sharp, hvk is blunt

Lk is sharp, kn is blunt

[rich arch]

I thought I did till sunny called a red dot blunt

[unreal gale]

It’s blunter than the sharpest things

Like red dot is blunter than a sniper scope

And blue dot

[rich arch]

Its a suspended dot
Sharpest thing in the game besides t19 mythic to me

[unreal gale]

The dot is too fat

Sharper than most things

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[unreal gale]

But also that’s not what we’re talking about

[rich arch]

Your opinions on sights truly stump me

[bright cloud]

Same
And on feel too

[rich arch]

And im running holo on cx9

[bright cloud]

Like kn44 feels so good to me
And sunny just calls it blunt or smth

[rich arch]

Base sight just feels bad
Candy bracelet nice though

[unreal gale]

I think we agree for the most part on sights

but also, sharp and blunt for sights is one thing

the "feel" also has sharp and blunt

[rich arch]

You ran red dot on cartridge crusher

[unreal gale]

that was a meme

I don't actually run it

[rich arch]

Oh

[unreal gale]

but also, red dot is sharper than cartridge crusher

[rich arch]

Ik that

[unreal gale]

but I think red dot just feels bad on hvk

[rich arch]

Its prong is pretty wide

[unreal gale]

yeah

[rich arch]

I kinda didnt like itnat range due to that

[unreal gale]

that's probably what makes the gun feels so blunt

[rich arch]

But holy crapp that skin slapped

[rich arch]

Thats what id define as blunt yeah

[unreal gale]

but like, krig 6 feels blunt

[rich arch]

Ehh understandable

[unreal gale]

whereas lk and drh feel sharp

do you know what I mean?

I guess it matters more for either 40m+ or 30m headglitch fights

and I think your fov is too high to take those anyway

@bright cloud maybe that's the problem

[rich arch]

Is it too high yes do I try anyway.. yes

[unreal gale]

you and mellow both run high fov on phone

I run low fov on ipad

so the aim box I demand of my guns is a lot tighter

[rich arch]

True

[unreal gale]

which is why the sharp/blunt really matters for me

[rich arch]

Imma switch to 70 fov once imc5 claw though

Im not aggro enough for 90 anymore

[unreal gale]

if a gun can't perform within my aimbox, it's blunt

if it can, it's sharp.

[bright cloud]

Why

Like we are wierd sure but low fov ipad? Why?

[unreal gale]

bigger target = easier to hit.

literally that simple

have you seen the clips of me in training range?

notice how my 30m bots are as big as mellow's 15m bots?

well it's equally easy to hit for me

if I actually played on 90 fov, I'd be having a much harder time

[rich arch]

30m targets are the size of my crosshair

[unreal gale]

yeah like that's ridiculous

you're not gonna win jack if you challenge 30m headglitches

[rich arch]

If its nornal players, 50/50 chance

T2 players more like 20%

[unreal gale]

where as for me the 30m bots are that big

so you actually have a shot at beaming them off a headglitch

[bright cloud]

Doesnt mean low fov good when you know you cant see wide

[rich arch]

lemme show mine

[bright cloud]

Like high fovsaves my ass a lot

[unreal gale]

I don't need to see wider

[bright cloud]

Yeah you do

[unreal gale]

I can see this wide

and that's good enough

[bright cloud]

Cuz when i put my fov higher i could aee llayers at the edge of my screen noone else could

Which would save my ass a lot

[unreal gale]

if you're playing snd or bloody br, maybe that'll help

hp routes are more or less fixed. game sense should tell you where people are going to be

so if you look and see 110 degrees, that's good enough

you don't need to see 180. I check corners manually instead peripheral

and people in hp don't really hide in unsual corners

[rich arch]

Im cooked

[unreal gale]

people do sit in corners, but they are common corners, so everyone just checks them. (eg firing range trailer point corners)

[unreal gale]

lmao

[bright cloud]

I play all gamemodes in mp

[unreal gale]

well I don't

[bright cloud]

ALL

[rich arch]

Same

[unreal gale]

hp and snd are the only 2 competitive modes

and I don't like snd

I might get into it though, looks kinda fun at times

the other 3 are just simply not competitive

[rich arch]

Totally visible 🎉

[unreal gale]

do note that your dot is smaller on your screen than it is on mine

which is why I say red dot is blunt

because on my screen, it's pretty big

ofc it's sharper than most things in the game, but compared to the truly sharp sights like blue dot and mythic type19, it's definitely not top tier

[unreal gale]

but yeah, that's why sharpness matters to me (and honestly most comp players) and not really for you

[bright cloud]

Comp players also play snd and control

Not everyone plays hp

[unreal gale]

if you drop your fov to like 60 and challenge 30m fights, you'll see that bp50 is no match for drh

[unreal gale]

snd players don't play on 90 fov on phone

[rich arch]

True

[unreal gale]

and no, everyone plays hp

[rich arch]

Its tiny on mine

I max fov for less recoil

[unreal gale]

unless you're a sniper main

[bright cloud]

[unreal gale]

everyone plays hp

there are people who only play hp and play comp. no single comp player only plays snd

[bright cloud]

Now thats just delusional

Sorry sunny but it is

[rich arch]

yeah

The queue times for snd say enough

[bright cloud]

In all mmr levels of ranked

[rich arch]

nd the amount of lb players tells me its not just bad players

[unreal gale]

those players play hp

[rich arch]

Some

[unreal gale]

who in comp only plays snd?

[rich arch]

Some
Comp players play snd even if they main hp thoygh bc you have to be good at both modes

[unreal gale]

well yeah

I never said they don't play snd

it's just no one only plays snd and plays comp

what I notice is that snd players rely a lot more on movement and positioning

hp players are basically all aim mains

you definitely need to be top tier in both to be top tier in comp, but having less movement and insane aim also works out well

having mid aim and insane movement does not

[unreal gale]

and control... yeah you know how people feel about that mode lol.

[rich arch]

Idk to that extent

I dont follow comp

[rich arch]

Just needs to be tdm instead honestly

[unreal gale]

obviously the "no one" is an exaggeration

but comparatively, people like playing hp because, well, they get more kills

and kills = fun. more kills = more fun

[rich arch]

Snd gives me a nice heart attack each time I play ❤️‍🔥

[viral stone]

But u are so much skilled

Even u get heartbeat ??

[rich arch]

I can barely breathe after some matches

[rich arch]

Im mid

[weary aurora]

My fov is like 70

Have sync on

Ik mellows is maxed out

[weary aurora]

I like snd as well but the fact someone can kill your in any type of matter can be a bit wild

Hard Point brings out your true potential

You have no excuses for a loss at least less excuses rather than a snd match

You can get can get naded in snd, sniped from a weird angle when the opponent is at spawn, people camp literally anywhere atp doesn’t quiet frankly show who is the better play but who is more stealthy and a more tactical player

[rich arch]

True but with a bad team you can solo it somewhat
Can’t solo hp

[tardy vessel]

Anyone got a cx9 build

[tardy vessel]

Ty

[maiden ocean]

No probs!

[robust musk]

Vinnie for mod is wild

[maiden ocean]

I believe in them 🔥

[willow axle]

Why no red dot

[hoary flare]

because cx irons are fine

[willow axle]

No

[hoary flare]

yes

[willow axle]

Red dot is better with it

[hoary flare]

im an opticphobe

[maiden ocean]

Have you seen that particular skin's ironsight?

[willow axle]

My aim is better with red dot

[willow axle]

Yes I have but I like it with red dot

[maiden ocean]

It's clearer than you message history

[willow axle]

What about my message history

[maiden ocean]

You really want me to pull all that up?

[rich arch]

Wrong

[willow axle]

Uhhhhh okay it is

[maiden ocean]

We have instructions on shampoo bottles because of people like you

[willow axle]

WRONG VERY WRONG VERY VERY WRONG

[hoary flare]

correct

wait wrong

[willow axle]

THIS THIS IS THE RIGHT BUILD

[rich arch]

Why arr you building it pasive bruh nah

[willow axle]

@rich arch I didn't use your type 19 build in br

[rich arch]

Use 38s and ace grip for better bsa and speed

[maiden ocean]

I PRAY Thanos snaps you guys away 🙏

[willow axle]

But I literally rush with it

[willow axle]

No it's better this way

[rich arch]

That doesnt make thigns better at all

[maiden ocean]

thigns

[rich arch]

Not at all

[willow axle]

Besides if I'm last man standing I usually pre aim

[rich arch]

That does t matter

[hoary flare]

ass

[willow axle]

I don't care it feels better and it is better

[rich arch]

Its bsa is literally worse and the range is slightly better and everything else is worse

[hoary flare]

the completely wrong build

[rich arch]

It isn’t
Also use holov2

[hoary flare]

• wrong barrel
• wrong muzzle
• optic

[willow axle]

I rush with this guys

[hoary flare]

assier

[willow axle]

I love red dot

[rich arch]

This has to be the worst build ive seen never cook again

[maiden ocean]

It looks like a banana

[rich arch]

Bro used full auto muzzle

[maiden ocean]

And that is why imma use it

[willow axle]

Best krm build

[rich arch]

And reinforced barrel

Never cook again

[willow axle]

You guys dont know the power of red dot

[maiden ocean]

KRM has a good ironsight 😭

[rich arch]

That doesnt change how bad the rest of the gunsmiths are I run holo on enough guns to know

[willow axle]

Ugh fine give me a right build for cx 9

[rich arch]

Tec9 without burst muzzle is dogwater and tasforce barrel is a much

[rich arch]

Use what apple sent

[rich arch]

abomination

Just use holo 2 instead of laser

[hoary flare]

• no burst
• no task force
• wrong stock
• wrong mag
• red dot sight

[willow axle]

OKAY FINE GIVE ME THE RIGHT BUILD OF TEC 9

[willow axle]

Hell no it's ass

[rich arch]

Burst muzzle
Taskforce barrel
Mag
Striker fg
Firm grip

[hoary flare]

ok its there

[willow axle]

Wait I'ma copy it

[rich arch]

Its literally the best build
Cx38s
Cxfr
Ace grup
Drum mag
Optic

[willow axle]

Can you add red dot?

[hoary flare]

nno

[bright cloud]

@willow axle and if you really wanna red dot remove struker fg

[hoary flare]

because rds is bad

[rich arch]

Tec9 irons are so good and easy to use bruh

[willow axle]

I cant aim without red dot if I'm honest

[rich arch]

Instead kf grip im surprised youd say that

Youre more addicted to sights than me lol

[bright cloud]

Also you didnt explain why

[willow axle]

Idunno I got used to it

[bright cloud]

Cx38s+ace>cx38e+mono thats a fact tho

[willow axle]

Oh wait I know why I use to play pubg and I loved the sights

[hoary flare]

real

[robust musk]

I sent them a friend request but I think they quit dc 😔

[bright cloud]

Just use cx38s and ace grip instead

[hoary flare]

38S give free slot

[bright cloud]

Way better bsa similar range better mobility

[rich arch]

So many run mono its crazy

[willow axle]

What is the mag

[rich arch]

Its your choice

[bright cloud]

@rich arch dawg i might be mad

On days where my automatic aim sucks my sniper aim is godly and inverse

[willow axle]

Alright I replace the grip tape with red dot

[rich arch]

Lmaooo

Sniper aim should correlate to auto aim but oh well

[rich arch]

Use the mag without ads penalties then tbh

[willow axle]

There is no such thing as firm grip tape in this smg

[rich arch]

Can’t remember if its called extended or stanag

[rich arch]

Airborne elastic

[willow axle]

Are you happy?

[rich arch]

4.4x >>>

[rich arch]

Yed

[bright cloud]

Just extended mag
And wromg combat stock

[maiden ocean]

Boy do I have some news for you
Check general

[bright cloud]

It should be sas not ykm

[rich arch]

Striker fg > stock tho

Similar strafe and way higher overall mobility

[willow axle]

Then what stock

[rich arch]

Striker foregrip

[willow axle]

No such thing

[hoary flare]

fast mag/stanag

[willow axle]

You dont know the attachments

[rich arch]

Indo

Theres an attachment called striker foregrip

[hoary flare]

🇮🇩

[rich arch]

And its better than any of the stocks

[rich arch]

Fake 🇵🇱 flag

[hoary flare]

inverted

[rich arch]

🇦🇹 is both tho

[willow axle]

Are you finally satisfied!?

[rich arch]

Yes

[willow axle]

You guys just hate red dot

[hoary flare]

fake 🇸🇬

[rich arch]

No I run holo on most thjngs

[hoary flare]

you flipped it and ripped off the stars and crescent

[willow axle]

Ew that's disgusting

[rich arch]

Optics>>>

Even tried it on tec9 but outside of camo grinds its not needed

[hoary flare]

<<<<

[rich arch]

Holo is a better red dot

In most cases

[willow axle]

Hell no

[hoary flare]

hell yea

[rich arch]

Heck yes

[willow axle]

It's too big and I hate it

[hoary flare]

only optic id use tbh

[rich arch]

[willow axle]

Too wide bro

[hoary flare]

despite being an opticphobe

[rich arch]

Holo 2 isn’t big at all

[willow axle]

It's wide I dont like it

[hoary flare]

maybe youre talking the classic holo

[rich arch]

Pretty mich the same viewingnrange as classic rds

[rich arch]

Classic holo is awful

[willow axle]

Classic rds is better

[hoary flare]

yea

[rich arch]

Nah more reticle shake bad

[hoary flare]

❌

[willow axle]

I clutched yet another 1v5 with this in firing range

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

😭

[rich arch]

I hate firing range man

[willow axle]

Enemies were being toxic

They keep using melee

[rich arch]

I always get the hardest enemies on it and I suck at it

[willow axle]

I faced off against player's using mow thermite and melee abuser's so I abused the NA45

[rich arch]

Well done

[willow axle]

Wanna play br

[rich arch]

Imma go off now tho byebye

Lmfao

[willow axle]

NOOOOOO

[rich arch]

I literally accidentally fell asleep ror a couple of hours

49 guns completed

Now I gotta actually start on work

[rich arch]

Damascus grind?

[willow axle]

So basically procrastinating?

[rich arch]

Ues

As of this year ive become a huge procrastinator

And the more i wait the more terrified I am bc I have more and more work

[willow axle]

Change that

[rich arch]

Yeah, almost through with lmgs

XPR build for BR?

[bright cloud]

Sas combat stock

[willow axle]

Nuh uh

[bright cloud]

Its literally called that

+15% strafe

[willow axle]

Nuh uh I'm happy with I have now

[rich arch]

@bright cloud

[bright cloud]

Largest mag
Long barrel
Ghost stock
Tactical foregrip a
Disabled

[rich arch]

I think I use ranger fg on it…

[hollow sedge]

man o war build anyone

[hollow sedge]

thanks mate

[rich arch]

Npnp

[willow axle]

You liar

You said you'd work

[rich arch]

I am

[willow axle]

Can you teach me math?

[rich arch]

Im really rusty at it so idk

[willow axle]

Oh alright.....

[rare wasp]

Best gunsmith for ffar

Pls

[willow axle]

@rich arch

This guy is the gunsmith guy

[rich arch]

Takedown barrel
Agency sup
Bandit stock
Serpent wrap
44 rd fast mag

[rich arch]

What kind of math is it

[rare wasp]

Thank you bro

[rich arch]

Npnp

[willow axle]

I don't know

I'll handle it

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

light supp where

[tulip fox]

What's the best Oden build for mp rn

@rich arch

[bright cloud]

Duplex mag
Short barrel
Combat stock
Granulated grip
Colossus suppressor

[twilit fractal]

Whats a good build for by15?

[tulip fox]

Thank you sir

[rich arch]

What gri said

[tulip fox]

The duplex mag is the 24×2 right

[rich arch]

Ye

[tulip fox]

Because I hate useing tht 😭 but I'll give it a try

[rich arch]

Just use extended mag if you dislike it its great regardless

[twilit fractal]

Please i need the by 15 build

[unborn axle]

best build for kilo 141

[shadow hound]

@bright cloud what do you think of marksman mono kn44

[bright cloud]

Ul736++

[strange rivet]

Marauder suppressor
Extended light barrel
No stock
Tac laser
slug rounds

[strange rivet]

Mono suppressor
Extended light barrel
No stock
Large extended mag b
Granulated grip

[shadow hound]

Should I get fluorescence for the pdw 🗿

[urban socket]

give bp50 build for mp

and is it worth using in br?

[shadow hound]

Maxim supressor
Leroy Rapid Barrel
Stippled Grip Tape
Leroy Custom Stock or Skeletal / Aim Assist Laser
60 Round Russian Mag

[shadow hound]

yes

[urban socket]

why stippled grip?

[shadow hound]

It isn't like in the other weapons, it inscreases your BSA by a lot

[urban socket]

oh the bsa for bp50 is bad?

[shadow hound]

yes

you fix it with stippled tape and aim assist laser

but if you don't wanna run laser then use stock

[urban socket]

oh

okay okay thanks

4 second text time is lame

[strange rivet]

The real kudasai?

The real kudasai.

It's me evil Elmo (Yk as in white Obama)