codm-gunsmith-help

[idle cipher]

I wanna try something new and fun, that’s why I’m using the na45. But what do you suggest?

[shadow hound]

Chicom

[idle cipher]

The ar? I also need like 2 or 3 more new guns to try

[native canopy]

Hvk is 52 and 48 head

[keen gazelle]

ots speed build

[idle cipher]

I need to use the Hvk, I hear so many positive things about it but haven’t tried it

[idle cipher]

Ots?

[rich arch]

Groza

[keen gazelle]

ots smg

[rich arch]

Underrated

[idle cipher]

I love the groza, I have a fun leggy skin for it I just need a decent build

Groza build?

And load out if able😅

[rich arch]

Razorback

[idle cipher]

Is it a up close weapon or distance?

[rich arch]

@bright cloud

[idle cipher]

Can I post my safe house here and get opinions on it or?

[rich arch]

Yeah

[idle cipher]

I’m mainly stuck on how I should lay it out

Once I get the pistol diamond I think it’ll be dope, or should I have 4 of my mythics

[rich arch]

Nice

[idle cipher]

The dlq will be upgraded to mythic once I have it, I also have the bill prize fighters

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

Which do you think? Leave it like this or have mythics instead

If I had the ice drake it’d match with T19 and the Kilo kinda matches the Ak117

[rich arch]

Not bad honestly

Mythic krig

[idle cipher]

Neeeed the mythic Krig, and a mythic skin and maybe a leggy vehicle

Then my safe house will be complete

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

I don’t think I’m much of a whale, more like a dolphin or porpoise😂

[slow bough]

Playing some hard point my whole team in the negative but me

[idle cipher]

That’s the main reason it took me so long to hit leggy

[slow bough]

It was a really close game

Is 42/22 good?

[idle cipher]

Like the score?

Kill vs Death?

[slow bough]

Yeah I had 42 kill

[idle cipher]

I personally don’t think that’s bad

[faint valve]

it's close to 2 KD

[narrow glen]

@faint valve, 14 Server Rank

[faint valve]

not bad

[rich arch]

I don't think you weight that much. You eat several times a day?

[rich arch]

That's my point right? Whatever is going on in your life always try to remain positive

[idle cipher]

Lmaoooo I meant account but fair I see what you did there

[rich arch]

Oh my apologies lmao

[idle cipher]

lol it’s fine, I love playful banter😂

[rich arch]

looool

[rich arch]

Hahaha

[idle cipher]

But I mean I do eat three times a day, I do have a look I try to keep😂

[rich arch]

Oh that's not bad lol

[idle cipher]

Anyways, the na 45 doesn’t deserve all the hate, it’s kinna fun

[sweet flower]

every ar is a better grau

[rich arch]

No

[sweet flower]

tell me an ar worse then grau

[rich arch]

That's not what I was trying to say

[sweet flower]

wdym

[rich arch]

It's like how people had Drh, Hvk, Ak47, Grau,etc as their mains, but now T19 has become the new Grau but better

The feeling and play style of Grau is similar to T19, but T19 is better

[sweet flower]

I agree

t19 is a better grau

and so is most ars

[rich arch]

Yeah

[rich arch]

Type 25, M16, ak117, asm10, m4, icr1, kn44, hbr, pkmk2, fr556, asval , m13, cr amax, krig, Maddox, groza,

I understand hating on Grau but let's not be completely delusional

[sweet flower]

bruh

bro just listed out every good off meta gun ☠️

and a few meta

[rich arch]

Grau is not worse than them

Only if supergri disagrees I will say alright

[sweet flower]

r u seroius ☠️

[sweet flower]

stop glazing super gri goddamm ittt

[rich arch]

I trust my searching abilities

[rich arch]

Nothing wrong w trusting someone spending real time testing guns every day for the community

[sweet flower]

😭

please tell me ur joking :sobq

😭

[slow bough]

Hijacked is the worst map ever

[rich arch]

I know what I'm saying

[sweet flower]

I cant send ss

[rich arch]

I trust my instincts

[sweet flower]

ur insticts are bozo rn ☠️

[hoary flare]

#┃server-media-passes

[sweet flower]

I dmed him

[rich arch]

If you disagree with something you can provide further details and reasons about it

[sweet flower]

😭

[rich arch]

For example, what i believe is real because their builds are overall good for every play style and they watch comp games and they decide the builds

[sweet flower]

ur gotta be joking

[rich arch]

Furthermore they spend time testing guns daily

[sweet flower]

even super gri said it sucks bro

and not a single grau has been used in comp lately

[rich arch]

This doesn't mean it's the worst gun rn

[sweet flower]

heres a analysis on grau by supergri:
Grau has 23 meters of consistent 4 tap bc past that it becomes inconsistent as it goes below 50% due to needing 2/4 chest. Its mobility is bad for that 23 meters range as other smgs have same rsnge but way better mobility. Grau has relatively mid ttk with 246ms in first and 328ms in second range being bad ttk. Only pro grau has is relativity easy recoil and large mag at 60 rounds. Also bsa is bad making performance at range even worse do you can oush it to around 27.03 meters

[sweet flower]

one of the worst

its down there with guns like m4

[rich arch]

If it's brought into the conversation of honorable mentions and it's compared to type29 then it's a good off meta option honestly

The guns I mentioned weren't better than Grau

In my opinion

[sweet flower]

they are

ak117 is a grau on steroids but harder to use

[rich arch]

Only if Super Gri says that I will agree

[sweet flower]

stop glazing super gri 😭

he said it sucks too

[rich arch]

I mentioned the reasons why

There are new top 10 lists mentioned by kith and path exe

You can check them out

[sweet flower]

one month ago super gri said it

see

[rich arch]

He didn't mean every single one of them

He didn't mean M16, for example

Or the rest ones I mentioned

[rich arch]

Is M16 better than Grau on Multiplayer?

[sweet flower]

m16 and grau are differnet playstyles

but m16 is a A tier passive ar with infinitr 4 shot

he out m16 in his meta list

[rich arch]

Hating on a gun doesn't mean it's bad btw

[sweet flower]

this one :
Ultra aggro smg-mx9/ots9/fennec/cx9
Aggro smg(potential)-qq9 10mm/qxr eb
Flex smgs-cordite/pdw/qxr non eb
Burst smgs-cx9/tec9
Aggro ars-ffar/groza
Aggro burst-maddox echo fire/asm10 branson
Aggro flex ars-type 19/em2
Flex ars-Hvk
Passive flex ars-krig 6/ak47/drh
Passive ars-thermite mow/kn44/m16 wildfire
Passive burst-swordfish
Flex dmrs-oden
Passive dmr-as val
Ultra passive dmr-sks

Hipfire shotgun-krm
Hipfire and ads shotguns-by15 slugs/r9-0
Semi automatoc shotgun-striker
Marksman-argus(its technicly a shotgun but ut plays as marksman)
Aggro sniper-koshka
Flex sniper-tundra
Passive sniper-hdr
Semi automatoc sniper passive-rytec
Semi automatic sniper flex-xpr

Ultra aggro lmg-mg42 rapid
Aggro lmg-Type 19
Flex lmg-mg42
Passive lmg-ul736
Ultra passive lmg-pkm/mg42 6.5mm

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[sweet flower]

krig into bk now

and another change I forgot

[rich arch]

Krig better than bk?

🧐 interesting

[sweet flower]

no i mean

bk replaced krig

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[sweet flower]

the > was like a arrow meaning a change

not a comparison

[idle cipher]

Okay so idk what everyone is saying, I’ve done some ranked, shipment ffa, and TF. The Na 45 is so fun

Especially when people put up that shield thing

[idle cipher]

I’m gonna have to disagree, ak117 > Grau

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

But that just my opinion, between the two. I’m just glad you didn’t say our glorious king the swordfish

[rich arch]

I mean if mythic Grau exists, how can it be the worst gun right?

[idle cipher]

I def like the grau mythic better compared to ak47. I haven’t tried the others but ik wym

[rich arch]

[sweet flower]

😭

[rich arch]

[native canopy]

Ay icr is better then all

[rich arch]

Fr?

[shadow hound]

Sick blueprint

[sweet flower]

ak117:

[shadow briar]

hows the irons?

[shadow hound]

Garbage

[shadow briar]

continuing the trend of em2 shit optics

[viscid belfry]

it is but its unique

[rich arch]

C'mon man I'm really surprised on that Grau take

It can't be the worst gun rn

[sweet flower]

removr the eou and it bassicaly is

[rich arch]

Don't do me like that

Bobby mentioned it on honorable mentions

[sweet flower]

botty bots around

dint listen to botty plays or ibot

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

Is Krig an Kilo at least kinda the move?

[sweet flower]

krig is way better then kilo

[sweet flower]

but harder to use

[idle cipher]

Ty, I just needed to know

[idle cipher]

I’ve been using the Krig a lot in preparation when the best mythic comes back

I mean it’s not as meta as swordfish but nothing will top my glorious king

[faint valve]

do show

[vagrant yarrow]

Fastest ads snipe loadout?

[faint valve]

that can depend
u want smthn that can blankscope really accurately at let's say a 75% ads
or smthn that ads fully quick enough

[vagrant yarrow]

Ads fully quickly I seen someone wit lw3 and that shi was fast

Or koshka

[hoary flare]

@lilac tapir stopping power is a must have as it increases one tap hitbox

[lilac tapir]

But it takes away ads

[hoary flare]

its still fast at 292ms

dont worry

[lilac tapir]

Mmm

The build I made was an upgraded version of another guy's build. His build was a one shot close range.

[hoary flare]

hm?

which one

[lilac tapir]

The one you responded to

[hoary flare]

xpr?

[lilac tapir]

Ye

[hoary flare]

it only one taps head tho

[lilac tapir]

Oh

[hoary flare]

so you require stopping power

[idle cipher]

This is the best and most fun gun I’ve used

[hoary flare]

real

id use light compensator tbh

[viscid belfry]

scope works too

u wont use it for long ranges so a scope will help

like 3x

[hoary flare]

idk about light trigger

[idle cipher]

So should I swap the compressor and take off light trigger?

[lilac tapir]

Why high explosive

[hoary flare]

ig so

supressor swap for compensator

trigger switch for scope

[lilac tapir]

The build you made worked but it attracted spear users

[hoary flare]

i see

[idle cipher]

The extra damage

[lilac tapir]

Aren't cars enough?

[hoary flare]

some maps dont have cars

[lilac tapir]

Oh

[hoary flare]

take shipment, for example

plus cars are a one-off kind of explosive

[idle cipher]

So this?

[hoary flare]

i guess you could try that

[idle cipher]

I just really like the gun and wanna make it work

[hoary flare]

yeah NA45 is not the best

but its pretty fun if you ask me

[formal river]

HDR is so underrated

[hoary flare]

one tap everywhere until 45 ish meters

[formal river]

Yea

[sweet flower]

the reload andd fire penalty the only bad things abt it for me

[idle cipher]

Swordfish is the best gun but till tundra gets a mythic I like dlq for snipers

[hoary flare]

i wouldnt say that there are any best guns

[formal river]

True

[sweet flower]

there are many bolt actions better then dlq

[formal river]

Koshka>

[hoary flare]

dlq is just basic sniper

[sweet flower]

yesh

[idle cipher]

I just love the swordfish, I have the most fun using it

[hoary flare]

there are ofc better variants, like what Lluuizz mentioned

[idle cipher]

I’m just a fan of its leggy and mythic blueprints

[sweet flower]

its so good but a lil ahrd to use cuz of burst

but once u get hand of burst its godly

[ruby iris]

Why

[hoary flare]

true

[sweet flower]

wym

[idle cipher]

One burst kills, and it’s great at pretty much any range, if up close and know how to use hip fire it’s also great at close range

[ruby iris]

Ak platform doesnt need a buffer tube

[idle cipher]

I will glaze and defend swordfish any day

[sweet flower]

im not a gun nerd tf does this mean

[sweet flower]

glazer conferm

[idle cipher]

Just for swordfish tho, I’m loyal

[sweet flower]

loyal glazer

[idle cipher]

Much better then a glazer for meta only

[sweet flower]

fr

[hoary flare]

real

[idle cipher]

Like a drh glazer🤢

[sweet flower]

fr

and they always say em2 is poo poo

drh glazers the worst

hvk glazers even worse tho 🤮

[idle cipher]

I don’t hate em2 but I don’t think it deserves the hate

[ruby iris]

This is the buffer tube

It contains the recoil spring on ar15 platform guns like m4 etc...

[sweet flower]

people who have hvk as their most used weapon on rank are weird like stop sweating my guy

[idle cipher]

I have yet to try hvk

[ruby iris]

Which is needed for the gun to function

[sweet flower]

oh

I see

[idle cipher]

It’s not sweating if it’s not hard to use

At least that’s my opinion

[sweet flower]

its sweatuing cuz their trying their best to win every game using meta

[idle cipher]

Ffar 1 fs

[hoary flare]

bot blueprint lmao

[sweet flower]

ikr

nothing beats that rus blueprint and the bizon no name bluepritn those are the king of bot blueprints

[idle cipher]

Why the extra ammo for Ffar?

[ruby iris]

Ak platform weapons dont need it as they dont have a recoil spring in their stock

[hoary flare]

play maker and energy field

[narrow glen]

@tall flame, 27 Server Rank

[sweet flower]

how tf u know the name of the no name bizon

illegal this man needs to be contained he knows too much

[ruby iris]

You can remove the whole stock and it would still function fine

[sweet flower]

oh

[ruby iris]

So why tf does the ak117 have this

[sweet flower]

just ykm light stock :

[idle cipher]

Just overall, I like it better then asval

[ruby iris]

Why does ak117 even have a buffer tube in the 1st place

[sweet flower]

why is there a full auto gun that shoots thermites

[ruby iris]

All of it's stocks are ar15 stocks

[sweet flower]

questions in life we will never know the answer to

🔥

[ruby iris]

2nd

Val is kewl

[hoary flare]

why not

[sweet flower]

you know too much

[ruby iris]

Cyberspace?

[idle cipher]

I like the Val, just iron sight on Ffar is better imo

[hoary flare]

xd

[sweet flower]

its cyberspace!!!????

[hoary flare]

energy field

[sweet flower]

HOW OD YOU GUYS KNOW THERES NO NAME???

[ruby iris]

The blue animated bizon yes?

[sweet flower]

woth no name

[hoary flare]

it does have a name

energy field

[sweet flower]

on my screen w hen I Get killed by it it looks like no name

[ruby iris]

Cyberspace, cuz we had rus, chicom, hg40, and type 25 with that same pattern

[sweet flower]

oh ok

I got the rus cyber space idk how

idk how I Got dlq deep sharp either

[ruby iris]

Credit crates

[sweet flower]

ahh

[ruby iris]

Credit crates

[sweet flower]

the current credit epic poopy options

the icr and msmc so meh

but the msmc rare u can buy in the credit sotre thats kike purple actually good

[idle cipher]

Is this a bot load out?

I’m working on diamond for these two

[sweet flower]

dub loadout

[ruby iris]

Why did blud buy the leggy c96?

[sweet flower]

edxcept kinetic

just use equalizer its busted af

[hoary flare]

bro bought leggy c96

[sweet flower]

whats c96??

[ruby iris]

C96 mauser

[sweet flower]

oh machine pistol

[sweet flower]

yeha ik mauser I didnt know c96

[idle cipher]

I liked the look and I always buy stuff that looks dope

[ruby iris]

Base gun looks cooler imo

Performance is uhh, ye

[idle cipher]

The gun an skin is nice so I just went ahead and bought it

[hoary flare]

machine pistol

[idle cipher]

I do love the base design, but I’m a sucker for kill effects

[sweet flower]

its bad unless ur oggae who thinks its better then lcar 😂

[idle cipher]

The homie fr, also a dope pfp

[sweet flower]

🫂

[idle cipher]

My other two favorite loadouts, I use the chest shield thing, bc I like playing aggro

The dame fits with Kilo

[hoary flare]

average p2w player

[sweet flower]

codm isnt pay 2 win tho

[viral stone]

Showing loadout ✖️
Flexing p2w items ✅

[viral stone]

😂

[hoary flare]

iron sight?

[sweet flower]

its pay 2 advantage not pay 2 win

[hoary flare]

oh mb

[sweet flower]

theres like 7 guns I would use a rds on

[hoary flare]

no guns for me tbh

[sweet flower]

krig 6

[hoary flare]

nope

i use its irons

[sweet flower]

oh god

you need help

[hoary flare]

why tho

[sweet flower]

its blocks like 30% of ur screen

irons so bad

[viral stone]

Ironsight of mytic and leggy are op

[sweet flower]

im pretty iron resistent

like I dont use them on holgae and fennec ect

but krig is too far for me

[sweet flower]

just cuz someone has better irons then u doesnt mean ur gonna loose

at the end of the day its about skill

[hoary flare]

its fine for me

[sweet flower]

😭

[hoary flare]

if im being honest

just adapt i guess

[viral stone]

But they are better than normal

[hoary flare]

i found it shitty at the start

[sweet flower]

you want people to drop 100+ bucks to get the same ironsight

[viral stone]

Nope I didn't ask for that a

[sweet flower]

codm doesnt give u better stats like mech arena

so be happy its just a ironsight advantage

[viral stone]

No matter what leeggy and mytic are quite p2w not p2advantage

[sweet flower]

just cuz u get a better advantage doesnt mean u win bro

[viral stone]

Why mech arena here ?

[sweet flower]

cuz other games like mech arean u can buy better stats but in codm its very small advantage so you shuld be happy

[viral stone]

Getting advantage will make u close for victory not defeat

[viral stone]

Happy ??

[sweet flower]

the advantage is too little

even on guns with bad ironsight like krig its not that big

its only 20% ads speed which doesnt matter for passive guns

and even u can still win if ur better

[viral stone]

The p2w have extra attachment and ironsight advantage

[hoary flare]

no

unless you mean special attachment looks

[viral stone]

U didn't understand what I meant

[hoary flare]

i dont ofc

[sweet flower]

one attachments wont make or change a game

its impossible to find someone in ranked with the same skill where that one attachment will matter

[viral stone]

Guns like krig need scope but if u have mytic u can replace for extra attachment

[viral stone]

Tbh sbmm really works good

[sweet flower]

everyone in ranked will have different skils,position,playstyle,guns,builds ect at the end of the day the one attachment wont make or beak a game

[sweet flower]

😂 😂 ☠️ ☠️

joke of the year

[viral stone]

It works good

[sweet flower]

it rlly doesnt

[viral stone]

I get campers

Or rushers

[idle cipher]

Got this dm from a random on shipment

[sweet flower]

☠️

[narrow glen]

@sweet flower, 32 Server Rank

[idle cipher]

All I did was try to grind machine pistol an Ak117

[hoary flare]

if you learn how to use the ironsight, then you wont need an optic

[sweet flower]

just say cry more

[viral stone]

Why is that guy so rude

[idle cipher]

And it wasn’t ranked so idk what he means

[viral stone]

Many people dislike it

[idle cipher]

Maybe he meant for my rank?

[hoary flare]

sure ig

[viral stone]

Yup that's what I meant it's not ranked

[hoary flare]

its up to you if you wanna learn how to manage krig's iron or not

[idle cipher]

I just want to know what I did wrong, I mean he was using a tundra

[viral stone]

For you it's good so yeah I'm good with red dot

[viral stone]

U have match history

[lilac tapir]

It's your money. Them making p2w comments actually shows they're just jealous

[narrow glen]

@lilac tapir, 8 Server Rank

[idle cipher]

I don’t understand why I get these DMs

[idle cipher]

What’s that mean

[sweet flower]

whenever I get them I rail their ass on shipment and block them weirdo

[lilac tapir]

Wait what was your strat?

[hoary flare]

i see

[sweet flower]

in what?

[idle cipher]

Try 10 kills for machine pistol and ak117

[viral stone]

I mean the match results

[lilac tapir]

Ah. Yeah

[lilac tapir]

Not you

[idle cipher]

Ohhh I mean I can find em if you’d like, idk how to find em tho, lol I never really pay attention to results

[idle cipher]

At least I don’t use scorestreaks or ability’s

[lilac tapir]

Machine pistol no attachment grind took me 4-6 hours

[viral stone]

Click on profile then go to history

[lilac tapir]

?

[viral stone]

It's at the bottom

[idle cipher]

Shipment on hardpoint the easiest for grinding gold

[idle cipher]

Yea sure I’ll find it

[lilac tapir]

I do crossfire bc I can maneuver better

[idle cipher]

lol idk how long I’ve had that dm I usually get multiple a day of people asking for cp so I don’t check often

[viral stone]

Then we can say where u really went wrong not accurately but a guess

[idle cipher]

Fair, I’ll give it a shot next time

[narrow glen]

@idle cipher, 25 Server Rank

[idle cipher]

I won, idk wym but I’ll look for it

lol I’m just lost

[viral stone]

Look the game where u and the guy dm u where in same team

[idle cipher]

Okayyy

[lilac tapir]

I turned on my fov all the way and now I seem to be more accurate

[viral stone]

U should have done that before

[slow bough]

U can change the fov?

I never knew u could change it

[lilac tapir]

In basic

Scroll down

[viral stone]

Yeah

@slow bough I dm you ak47 gunsmith

[idle cipher]

Yea I still can’t find it, this is the last one it shows at bottom of history and this is from the other day

I don’t understand, is there a way I can check for date on dm?

[viral stone]

Ig no

[idle cipher]

?

[viral stone]

I guess no

[idle cipher]

I’m sorry

[viral stone]

Dm date is generally mentioned on top of chat

[idle cipher]

Wait why is my name grey now?

[viral stone]

Once try u may find

[hoary flare]

promotion

[idle cipher]

Good thought I’d be in trouble for swordfish glazing

[viral stone]

I'm also grey cuz of vertena

[hoary flare]

xd

[idle cipher]

Fits for you tho, being the honored one after all

[viral stone]

Yup

[idle cipher]

The community isn’t ready for swordfish supremacy

Y’all ss or sum, but I’ve been a swordfish fan since I first started, so when the mythic comes and it’s busted af. I’m not just meta glazing

[hoary flare]

i wont say im a swordfish glazer

but that shit fun to use

[idle cipher]

Id say you should try it more

Go on, just admit it’s the burst rifle

Well the best rifle

[hoary flare]

ik i do

[idle cipher]

You need a load out for it?

[hoary flare]

no need

but id like to see yours

[idle cipher]

I like the lazer for the added ads and bullet speed, the goal since I play aggro is be able to fire my burst before they can hit me enough, and for up close melee if you can hipfire decent you’re set

I wanna try a build that doesn’t use the haliberd mag, I’ll show that too

The swordfish wasn’t my first diamond but was my first gold, but it was my favorite to diamond, next season imma try to get it on leaderboard

[hoary flare]

i see

[idle cipher]

There’s prolly better builds but for me this feels the best

There’s also better leggy skins but this looks dope as diamond

[hoary flare]

personally id use the normal Sf skin

ABR 223 when

it looks like SAR21 but futuristic

[idle cipher]

Looks like a lesser swordfish, but I’d use it

[slow bough]

Oh I remember it from bo4

[hoary flare]

its a tactical rifle too

[hoary flare]

correct

[slow bough]

I want vmp

[hoary flare]

brecci

[slow bough]

Gun was so annoying to go against 😭

[ruby iris]

that's just an aug

like straight up

[hoary flare]

aug/sar21 hybrid

[rich arch]

@hoary flare Yes i already use that loadouts

[hoary flare]

i see

[rich arch]

Of pkmk2

I see insane kill in close combat

Using rapid fire

[hoary flare]

0.17 flinch is crazy

[rich arch]

@hoary flare how you unlock platinum skin of pk

[hoary flare]

get gold ar

unlock gold skin for every AR

[rich arch]

Required same weapon type

So why I've kilo bolt platinum skin

[hoary flare]

yeah

you have gold camo for all DMR

[rich arch]

No

[hoary flare]

then why do you have plat Kar98

[rich arch]

Gold and platinum unlock same time

Yup

[hoary flare]

i dont get it

do you mean you got KAR98 as your last golden DMR?

[rich arch]

I unlock in 2021

First gold camo

[hoary flare]

neat

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris how's val smg

[ruby iris]

it's alright

against stationary targets it's actually quite nice

[stray rapids]

That doesn't sound reassuring

[ocean narwhal]

u cant hit anything that isnt stationary so that shld be fine for u

[rich arch]

just want to ask people who have this skin: does it have huge aimshake

or i should exchange dlq fatigue instead (but i can‘t snipe)

[stray rapids]

Fuck u mean

Cao chibai

1v1 ah

[stray rapids]

Yea

M16 is unsaveable

[dapper light]

M16 is like a worse LK/KN imo

when auto

[stray rapids]

It is fact

Worse

[dapper light]

Solution: Just make it a more deadly but shaky HBR/M4

[stray rapids]

I wish they just buff the recoil tbh

Become the goated main ar it once was

[dapper light]

The Aim Shake is like an earthquake

[stray rapids]

Massacred it

[dapper light]

Desecrated it

[narrow glen]

@dapper light, 15 Server Rank

[stray rapids]

Rus

[bright cloud]

@tall flame what did you send bad internet cant load

[bright cloud]

Not really

[swift abyss]

I dont think blueprints have any effect on aimshake

Except mythics

[stray rapids]

Targonite

[burnt yacht]

Give me ur most underrated gun and build

[forest obsidian]

Type 19

[narrow glen]

@forest obsidian, 14 Server Rank

[hoary flare]

thats not underrated

[forest obsidian]

Didn’t know

Guess I’m a newbie here 😩

[dark flower]

Anyone got an m13 build?

[hoary flare]

with double stack or nah

[dark flower]

Any can do

[hoary flare]

k

[ruby iris]

Yes it is (source: me)

[native canopy]

Agree

[fading bluff]

Guys i need build for fennec

[narrow glen]

@fading bluff, 16 Server Rank

[rich arch]

@hoary flare question about your tundra build

[hoary flare]

ask

[rich arch]

Is it respawns build? Not just the recommended tundra build I suppose?

[hoary flare]

yeah i say so

[rich arch]

The recommended should be tac sup, tiger barrel, fmj, 7rn and ae grip?

[hoary flare]

im pretty sure thats for snd?

[rich arch]

Hmmm

[fading bluff]

Just don't really use the recommended attach

Just go with your reference

[rich arch]

I'll use both then

Was wondering about fmj, will it work on that respawns build since it doesn't have tiger barrel?

[hoary flare]

yes

cuz slower ads

[fading bluff]

Just use soh

[rich arch]

If I recall correctly hammer forged doesn't increase ads time but fire interval

[hoary flare]

it does yeah

the airborne wrap only increases ads by 20%

but decreases flinch significantly

[rich arch]

Yeah it's -25% ads time
-35% flinch and the other one is
-30% ads time

I'll use both builds I needed a respawn one

I wish I could make fmj work with it

[rich arch]

We were discussing yesterday about Grau and I'm still wondering, is it really the worst ar right now?

[bright cloud]

One of worst yeah id say so

Not worst worst tho

[rich arch]

[bright cloud]

It still has redeeming qualities

[rich arch]

Makes no sense to release a Mythic for a gun which is bad for both modes (BR and MP)

Wondering why is that

Does anyone like that pink zrg

[hoary flare]

no

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

because not default camo

[rich arch]

I want a blueprint for it but there's no unique zrg skin yet

That one from the battle is bad lol

The scope is terrible and huge

@bright cloud what buff would you give to SPR to make it more usable on Multiplayer?

Range lethality, flinch, ads time?

[bright cloud]

Ads speed

[bright cloud]

Heavy bolt exists but its gae

[rich arch]

Yeahh

Thoughts?

[bright cloud]

Whae scope

[rich arch]

Wanted to try it as a sniper

[hoary flare]

no light bolt

its better off as an ironsight sniper

[rich arch]

I see

You guys remember that leak when they said they're working on older mythics?

I wonder if it's actually happening

[bright cloud]

Prob no

[bright cloud]

Heavy bolt is good if you have good aim

[dusty heart]

Well they did in the past so it’s probs true

Old mythics never had inspect animation

Now they do

Also they got voicelines now as well

[hoary flare]

o wow

[rich arch]

Interesting 🤔

[knotty jolt]

what are guns yall need a build on?

[hoary flare]

idk

just show some random one

[knotty jolt]

il show you my favorites

[hoary flare]

ight

[rich arch]

Aren't these guns worse than Grau? :
Type 25, M16, ak117, m4, icr1, kn44, hbr, pkmk2, fr556, asval , m13, cr amax, krig, Maddox, groza.

[knotty jolt]

hmm

I can't send pics?

LOL

[hoary flare]

#┃server-media-passes

[knotty jolt]

thanks

[hoary flare]

np

[hoary flare]

all of these are pretty good

[bright cloud]

M16 kn44 krig are all great main ars
Amax is decent main ar
Groza best aggro ar
Ak117 and pkmk2 better graus with worse recoil
M13 is wierd
As val has fmj
Icr is worse than other main ars but still
Hbr post buff is very good
Type 25 is only arguable here

[knotty jolt]

let me screen shot hold on

[rich arch]

Nice 👍

[bright cloud]

Sniffer was right most of those are better than grau

Amax also has m67

[hoary flare]

stopping power T25 is nice

[viscid belfry]

can be but i prefear 42 fast

[rich arch]

Interesting

[hoary flare]

hm but faster ttk

[viscid belfry]

i feel it was slower

[knotty jolt]

my fav gun rn

[tawny walrus]

Weapon is nice, blueprint is bleh.

[knotty jolt]

this is another fav of mine

pov you're an sr main

[rich arch]

Pretty surprising seeing the fact that bobby actually put Grau instead of any of those as a honorable mention in his top 10 list

[knotty jolt]

how did you get the weapon leaderboard tag?

[bright cloud]

Simple

[tawny walrus]

Followed the steps in #┃legendary-request-top-5k.

[knotty jolt]

pretty cool

[hoary flare]

fast switch a no no

[knotty jolt]

fast switch with the zealot iscrazy

[hoary flare]

id rather a supp

[knotty jolt]

im a respawns main

[bright cloud]

Bobby does as much as he can to make top 10s accurate that a non stat analyst can including taking look into comp

And comp likes grau

[knotty jolt]

i snipe in respawns LOL

prb why im hardstuck 10k points

[rich arch]

Comp still likes Grau?

[bright cloud]

Liked

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[bright cloud]

So cuz they liked he puts it as hm

[rich arch]

Pfff

I like how every mythic choice I'm doing ends up being nerfed or just worse

My luck somehow....

[idle cipher]

My two new golds

[idle cipher]

Is my ak117 okay? I can’t remember if you said marksman or extended barrel

[bright cloud]

Extended

[idle cipher]

Would you recommend the lazer or tape?

[bright cloud]

Tbh id just use leather grip on machine pistol you are fucked anyway

[bright cloud]

Laser

[idle cipher]

Wdym

I do like quick ads so I changed to leather

[idle cipher]

Also imo after using it, I like the trade of akimbo to that build of the pistol

[bright cloud]

By fucked anyway? Gun sucks

[idle cipher]

Yea that’s what I meant, I only have it bc it looks nice and makes my ptp load out pretty much complete

Well till I get a mythic character that is

[hoary flare]

your ak build is fine

would go for granulated tbh

[idle cipher]

Ty, I took off my attachments and forgot to ss

[hoary flare]

i see

[idle cipher]

Once I finally get those two to diamond I can start using my swordfish to get it to master rank

[rich arch]

Damn

[idle cipher]

Gonna change its name too “Pesce Spada” or maybe something that translates to perfection

[rich arch]

I have a suggestion

Perfect Imperfection

[idle cipher]

I’m listening

[rich arch]

Nice

[idle cipher]

So “Perfetta Imperfezione” I like it, I just hope it fits lmao

[hoary flare]

name is only 14 characters at max

[idle cipher]

Tragic

Why are my peoples words so long

[rich arch]

So many letters lol

[idle cipher]

I need something short and sweet yet perfect

Maybe “Giove”?

[rich arch]

Giovanni Giorgio

[idle cipher]

John George?

Wait do you speak Italiano?

[rich arch]

voglio pucciare il biscotto

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

lol giusto, immagino, ma lo parli o è una traduzione di Google o qualcosa del genere?

[idle cipher]

aspetta, questa è una discordia solo in inglese, non voglio finire nei guai

[rich arch]

Sono Napolitano y Diego Maradonna molto adagio

[rich arch]

Yes lol google translate

[rich arch]

True

[idle cipher]

Ohhh, fair. I haven’t met many who speak it. I’m second generation American

I was excited for a second, but all good. Still a homie

[rich arch]

Ohhh I see hahah.

[rich arch]

Ohh I'm sorry unfortunately I only know a few words that some of my Italian friends learned me xd

So you have that Italian New York accent when you're speaking English?

Like De Niro?

[idle cipher]

Lolll nooo I’m from the south so I have a slight southern draw.

[rich arch]

[idle cipher]

My English sounds like yours or anyone, just grew up with both. I do like speaking English here, it can get cumbersome bouncing between the two irl

[rich arch]

Niceee

[half fulcrum]

@bright cloud Bro

Need an striker br build

That’s good tho?

[idle cipher]

Kilo bolt?

[bright cloud]

Yeah but sleight of hand instead of stippled

[bright cloud]

Stopping power mag
Combat stock
Stippled grip
Light supressor
Sleight of hand

[half fulcrum]

Ok

Thx

[idle cipher]

Now a pp19 build?

Ik it’s a mid smg but it’s on my list to try

[bright cloud]

Extended barrel
Monolithic suppressor
Skeleton stock
Granulated grip
Tactical laser

[idle cipher]

What’s your personal favorite gun? I’ll add it to my list

In honor of your help of course

[bright cloud]

Em2

[idle cipher]

Omg yes, build please

It looks like a swordfish in a way so respect it

[bright cloud]

Taskforce barrel
Firm grip
Lightweight stock
40 round mag
Agency suppressor

[idle cipher]

Trying this now🫡 just need a leggy skin that looks dope for it

[idle cipher]

Does it have any in the for you draws?

[bright cloud]

Idk

[rich arch]

@idle cipher are you watching the game?

[rich arch]

Best sniper for br?

[bright cloud]

Hdr xpr and tundrs

[tulip kindle]

Good builds for switch blade

[rich arch]

Cheers

[bright cloud]

Monolithic suppressor
Light stock
Extended barrel
Extended mag a
Granulated grip

But switch itself isnt good

[tulip kindle]

What smgs are good?

U says i heard other

[bright cloud]

Aggresive fennec cx9 ots9 and mx9
Aggressive-flexible qq9 and qxr
Flexible pdw and cordite

[tulip kindle]

And what builds?

[somber tinsel]

Fennec
Steady stock
Mono
ext mag a
ext barrel
granulated/op fg

Cx9
Cx 38s barrel
Cx fr stock
Cx ace grip
Sleight of hand
50 round drums

Ots 9
Taskforce barrel
Agency suppressor
Light weight stock
firm grip tape
ext mag a

Mx9
Built in suppressor barrel
Large caliber
infiltrator foregrip
firm grip tape
light weight stock

QQ9
10mm mag
mono
rtc recon tac long barrel
no stock
owc laser

Qxr
Enhanced bolt
Mono
Owc laser
Marksman barrel
ext mag a

Pdw
Mono
ext barrel
light stock
owc laser
sleight of hand

Cordite
Mono
80 mag
ext barrel
light stock
granulated

[rich arch]

https://tenor.com/view/in-a-world-of-pure-imagination-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-in-imaginary-world-fantasy-world-dream-world-gif-21430673

[sudden minnow]

am dose anyone have a good mg42 build for mp

[prisma dune]

Anybody got a dlq build I delete it😭

[idle cipher]

This is my fav build for it, enjoy

[prisma dune]

Good looks

[cerulean atlas]

Lmg load out for rank snd

[narrow glen]

@cerulean atlas, 4 Server Rank

[prisma dune]

Anybody got sum good AR builds

[unreal gale]

Best pdw build trust

[hoary flare]

why fg tho

[unreal gale]

recoil

[fierce haven]

I read this p2w

[hoary flare]

i see

isnt it manageable enough?

[unreal gale]

the lateral recoil is pretty bad on the pdw

and the foregrip reduces it by 16% (a lot)

the gun already has good ads speed and movement speed, the strafe debuff is offset by the stock

[fierce haven]

If you have good recoil control it’s not hard

I focus on ads and dps not recoil cause I can control recoil

[warped mantle]

Anyone got koshka attachment?

[unreal gale]

...

[warped mantle]

Bless🤍

[gusty axle]

I need a name for my hvk anybody have a name tag me

[unreal gale]

"Supposedly Meta"

[warped mantle]

Try again..

[gusty axle]

I just trying to have an actually cool name for it not anything basic

[unreal gale]

try chatgpt for that :D

[warped mantle]

Ohh.. that’s gonna be hard lol

[gusty axle]

Someone gave me mockingjay

[unreal gale]

also hvk is pretty overrated ngl.

[gusty axle]

Sometimes

[unreal gale]

you can balance how cool the name sounds with the cringe that comes with it. adjust to your personal taste

[gusty axle]

lol

[warped mantle]

What’s your best gun?

[half fulcrum]

Explosive mag for jak 12

Is it worth it?

[unreal gale]

I would say drh

[hoary flare]

never

[unreal gale]

especially if you have the blood rose

[hoary flare]

just use standard ammo or slugs if you want aa12 dmr

[unreal gale]

just feels amazing

[hoary flare]

iirc theres a blueprint with transparent digital sights

whats the name of that?

[warped mantle]

Currently grinding that

[hoary flare]

oooh

[sweet flower]

why r using owc foregrip

[sweet flower]

the best gun is hvk

[warped mantle]

Send attachment

[sweet flower]

aggressive passive or flex

[warped mantle]

Aggressive sir

[sweet flower]

mono,mip light,ykm stock,large caliber,laser/gran

[warped mantle]

Bless 🤍

[half fulcrum]

Alr thx

[warped mantle]

Sks?

[hoary flare]

oh wew

ali the fox skin looks silly

[hoary flare]

he mentioned about how it helps with horizontal recoil

kinda ig

[sweet flower]

pdw has easy recoil

[hoary flare]

yeah im aware

[sweet flower]

for me its a beam

[hoary flare]

maybe some players might need a little more help with recoil control

after all PDW has like 1 free slot

[sweet flower]

oh yeah hes also the guy who thinks drh>hvk ☠️

[sweet flower]

I would user laser+gran

[hoary flare]

for like idk a laser or perk

[sweet flower]

to imrpove bsa

[hoary flare]

same tbh

[sweet flower]

but even so he should use operator cuz it doesnt destroy mpbility

[hoary flare]

i use gungho so i dont see the slow reload as an issue

[sweet flower]

I use quickfix lol

I Reload after like every kill and pdw reload fine for me

[hoary flare]

i see

[sweet flower]

I just reload cancel most the time

[hoary flare]

same here

but why do some people use rds

[sweet flower]

it has similiar ironsights to mythic pk idk

getting addicted to rds is the biggets mistake one can make

once u get addicted to it ur never turning back

[deep glacier]

Garena meanwhile:

[hoary flare]

yeah its somewhat similar to the mythic pkm2

[sweet flower]

gaerena users are different

[deep glacier]

Truthfully I can't think of one gun where I think RDS is mandatory

[sweet flower]

krig

[deep glacier]

Not even HBR before I got a good skin for it was that bad

[sweet flower]

lk

[deep glacier]

Nah I don't mind it

Krig/M16/LAPA irons are my childhood pretty much, I'm very used to them

[sweet flower]

im pretty tolerant to rds I dont use them on what ppl think of bad ironsights like fennec and holgae but krig and lk are un playable for me

[sweet flower]

dam

[deep glacier]

And for Krig specifically it doesn't even help the aim shake

[sweet flower]

maniac

[hoary flare]

🤝

my man

[deep glacier]

You ain't played an early 2000-2010s shooter and it shows

[sweet flower]

I havent lol

[sweet flower]

maniacs think alike 🔥

[deep glacier]

You usually played as the Americans and rarely got AKs and stuff

[sweet flower]

krig just blocks ur screen 30% of it

[deep glacier]

so you'd be stuck with a flavour of AR pattern rifle

and at the time this whole thing about sights wasn't that big yet

Maybe an actual scope, but no holos or RDS

[hoary flare]

xd

[deep glacier]

Or the SUSAT

God I hated that thing

It might look alright

But you've no idea how confusing aiming with a literal needle is when the gun starts moving

[sweet flower]

tf is that bro

[idle cipher]

I ain’t gonna lie, Em2 kinna fun

[viscid belfry]

it is but requires skill

[idle cipher]

I tried the build super gri sent me in snd and I can see wym, explains why I’ve never seen in it in mp

[unreal gale]

recoil (2)

[unreal gale]

on paper sure. it doesn't perform as consistently as drh (for me)

[unreal gale]

I think it's more spammable than drh and hvk

recoil feels a little funny but unless you're challenging a 30m headglitch, it should be fine

definitely not an issue within its golden 20m 3 shot range though

[unreal gale]

the whole point of the grip is lateral. pdw has very minimal vertical recoil.

[lilac tapir]

I need an na45 build for longshots

[unreal gale]

I mean by that logic tectonic struggles to control recoil on his kilo while most ranked players don't. what could be missing here...

[hollow panther]

best attachment is rds

[unreal gale]

kinda depends on the gun, but it's one of the most versatile for sure

[idle cipher]

I neeeed your opinion on the swordfish

[sweet flower]

it smet

[sweet flower]

pdw has minimal both recoil your just wasting ads movement

[stray rapids]

What's your rank accuracy

[sweet flower]

idf

idk

[stray rapids]

U can check it

[sweet flower]

cant get on codm rn

work to do been procrastinating for like am onth

[idle cipher]

Idk wym by smet but I’m assuming you mean perfect

[sweet flower]

meta

my spelling sucks 😭

[idle cipher]

All good, you supported my belief and that’s all that matters

[idle cipher]

You’re name doesn’t do you justice on that take tho

Made a 5 star meal with that take

[sweet flower]

🔥

I dont have perms to change it back

[unreal gale]

really good for camping. like really really good. the burst mechanism feels weird if you're moving and shooting though. It's very accurate, super long range with basically no recoil. Put a red dot on it since the base scope sight is awkward

[unreal gale]

we have different standards for accuracy. Let's leave it at that.

I'm good without a "kilo has no recoil why do you use a ranger grip" convo right now.

[idle cipher]

I like it as a aggro burst, some use fmj and more power to em ig, I like the fact that one burst can kill so to me it’s a great gun with very draw backs. Just low win rate with smgs depending on distance

It’s prolly atm my favorite gun

[unreal gale]

I wouldn't use it for aggro play honestly

personally burst weapons feel weird when you spray them as the interval kinda screws you in close quarter combat.

maybe try out one of the burst smgs if you want to run a burst aggro gun

ideal playstyle for swordfish is your super annoying tdm camper xD

I'd go for an automatic option otherwise

try pdw for example

[stray rapids]

What's ur rank accu

[unreal gale]

let me check

28.5 on drh

and then apparently I use dlq and locus a lot...

[stray rapids]

Dangg

[unreal gale]

oh nvm let me check another account

[stray rapids]

I'm 22% on lk

[unreal gale]

22 is pretty good

[stray rapids]

@ocean narwhal what's urs

[stray rapids]

Only gm2 tho

[unreal gale]

okay 30.5 on drh

28 on hvk

[stray rapids]

If I went all the way to leggy it'd probably be low 21s or high 20

[unreal gale]

60 ish for tundra

[stray rapids]

Jeez

I think chlee was around 27 or 28

He dint specify the gun

[unreal gale]

I mean that's pretty good

[narrow glen]

@unreal gale, 84 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

level 84 yay

[stray rapids]

Hes crazy with t19

Tryhard smh

[unreal gale]

does he have the mythic?

[stray rapids]

Yea

[unreal gale]

honestly level 1 sight is the best

lv 3 looks like it should be the best, but it feels a lil weird

[stray rapids]

He's better standing exposed with t19 than camping with sks

[unreal gale]

level 1 sight literally has no aimshake*

[stray rapids]

I donno the diff

[unreal gale]

uhh let me see if I can find a picture

[stray rapids]

U like 117?

I play flex best with 117

[ocean narwhal]

100%

i dont miss a shot 🗣️🔥🔥

[ocean narwhal]

real

[unreal gale]

finally found it lol

level 1, level 3 and level 5 respectively

[stray rapids]

3 looks best

[unreal gale]

yeah, but level 1 feels the best imo

level 5 looks and feels like crap xD

I still got it because gun look cool

rn my personal weapon ranking assuming all skins is:

1. DRH
2. Type19
3. EM2
4. HVK
5. PDW

oh wait I forgot em2

[stray rapids]

Drh feels so bad for me

My personal ranking is
Lk
Kilo mythic if I yoink someone elses
Ak117
Ul

I don't use any other gun

[unreal gale]

base drh can feel blunt

it's much better if you have bloodrose

[stray rapids]

I did use kurohana bunch of times

Still aim better with ak47

Ak mythic feels godly but they're hard to come by

[unreal gale]

I'm personally not a fan of kurohana

base is literally better for me haha

[stray rapids]

I'm not a fan of drh at all

Feels kinda shakey since I got no skins

Em2 feels bouncy kinda

[unreal gale]

I'm pretty biased towards drh since I have blood rose and it's literally my favorite skin in the game

but yeah, ak117 feels great too

[stray rapids]

I'm biased towards lk and 117 but both no skins

The skin with green rds on 117 is so cool but sucks that the tint is so strong

[hoary flare]

archtoxin?

[stray rapids]

Don't think so

Forgot the name

Super sick skin

[hoary flare]

oh thatt one

[stray rapids]

One of the best epic skins ever

Except the sights tint

[hoary flare]

is it this one

[stray rapids]

Yeahh

My luckiest crate evaaa

[hoary flare]

nightwind red

[stray rapids]

Mine was black

Or dark blue I forgot

[hoary flare]

prb garena version

k gtg cya

[stray rapids]

I think there were a few variants of that design

Aight

[unreal gale]

oh those are called like nightwings or something right?

I never got to try any

I think mythic ak117 > archtoxin > rest though

[stray rapids]

Mythic 117 design doesn't look good tho

But the sight looks conducive

[stray rapids]

We both garena

1v1

[unreal gale]

yeah I don't like the design either

you can't see anything, very much like the mythic templar which I'm also not a fan of

but together

[stray rapids]

The character look like the Aquaman villain

[stray rapids]

@ocean narwhal ahgua man

[brave tree]

Can anyone add me in the game

[ocean narwhal]

bruh

[idle cipher]

Stop, why is your account my dream😂

[ruby iris]

We should have dante from dmc as the next mythic operator

[austere igloo]

I know I’m late to the party, but finally I got the damn new pistol

[sweet flower]

kilo has no recoil why do you use a ranger grip

[austere igloo]

[stray rapids]

[ruby iris]

Ranger is good on kilo

Better recoil and bsa for headglitch fights

And no movement penalty so you can get early rotations in hp

[idle cipher]

My kilo build

[ruby iris]

Flex ar kilo, i see

[austere igloo]

Wow the machine pistol w/o attachments is a nightmare to use

I barely have enough to kill one enemy with one mag

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W build

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just control the recoil