codm-gunsmith-help

[night oriole]

Thanks

Thx guys

[hoary flare]

np

[night oriole]

For the advice

[hoary flare]

have fun

[night oriole]

Mind if I add u guys in dms?

For future reference

[bright cloud]

Short barrel
Monolithic suppresor
Granulated grip tape
50 round mag
Tactical laser

Also why tf youblike lasers they are limiting at best you only use them when you need to they have no pros really

[rich arch]

Uh not really i wouldnt say so

[hoary flare]

hm about the remark stated

wld like to know why

[bright cloud]

Yeah like what does liking laser means

[surreal schooner]

I want to cry alone 😭

[rich arch]

I wouldnt say so unless close range and agro

[hoary flare]

mhm

[surreal schooner]

I'm so alone

[bright cloud]

Yes

[hoary flare]

if its snd then i guess reasonable

[hoary flare]

uncry yourself

play some cod yes

[burnt yacht]

Just hit GM1 on my way to legendary

[surreal schooner]

I'm playing codm everyday

[hoary flare]

then idk

try something new

[hexed epoch]

Just discovered that The LK24 is crazy good gun both Mp & Br

[hoary flare]

its good for long range

but KN is better

[ruby iris]

@strong monolith

[hoary flare]

as what kith said ig

[rich arch]

kn is indeed better

just not as comfortable to use or as spammable

[hoary flare]

yes

[strong monolith]

In MP they are basically the same
In BR, hell nah

[surreal schooner]

Bruh

[hoary flare]

i see

thanks

[strong monolith]

See the issue with KN in BR is that its a slightly slower killing LK with way worse recoil

[hoary flare]

i dont play br much lol

[strong monolith]

Like the recoil is so bad that no matter how much you stack it, it will kick harder than you can pull down

[strong monolith]

In MP tho, they're pretty much the exact same gun
Although KN still has worse recoil (less of an issue in MP)

[hoary flare]

i see

[rich arch]

ranger fg, marksman, rtc compensator, rubberized grip, steady stock

[hoary flare]

wild

bsa 📉

[strong monolith]

Yeah that will still kick really hard
Even with recoil mods

[rich arch]

wilddd

[hoary flare]

or maybe not

[stray rapids]

In mp isn't it just a lk with minimally better range and much worse recoil

[strong monolith]

Pmuch

[rich arch]

recoil got buffed

but still more or less yeah

more like lk with aim shake and smaller mag

[stray rapids]

So basically for 99% of people lk better

[rich arch]

and doesnt require a red dot

[rich arch]

yes the feel is still worlds better also it has great legendaries unlike kn

[stray rapids]

Except that 1% that wasted the time to learn the recoil to exploit 1m better range

[stray rapids]

Hm

[strong monolith]

The only benefit is that you can build it to be more mobile
But what's the point when a DR-H, T19 and Oden are gonna tear you a new one anyway?

[rich arch]

true

oden slept on hard

[stray rapids]

Good thing it's slept on

[rich arch]

real

[strong monolith]

I genuinely cannot see the LK and KN being meta in the current state of the game
They are still decent for range tho

[rich arch]

lk is still meta imo

fairly flexible
big mag
no recoil
no aim shake
great ranges
good ttk

good bsa and ye thats it really

[stray rapids]

Ttk isn't good anymore with guns like fennec drh oden running the show

[strong monolith]

The TTK is only good for range
Up to ~25m (the most common engagement range these days), it is considered too slow

[rich arch]

its still good ttk
just not broken

[stray rapids]

That being said I still pick the lk🤗

[strong monolith]

285ms vs the meta's average ~200ms

[rich arch]

yeah hence why its a more passive gun

[strong monolith]

And if you are gonna go passive, why not use MG42?

Or any of the DMRs?

[stray rapids]

Wanna run pubs I need to rack up games with friends😔

[strong monolith]

I'm on the train from work rn

[stray rapids]

O

[unique schooner]

Get friends i think

[rich arch]

i swear

[stray rapids]

Good idea

[rich arch]

can mg be omitted from arguments

it takes the cake for EVERYTHING

[stray rapids]

What's the mg ttk profile

[rich arch]

great in every single range

and absurd in long range

inf 6 tap with a 58ms fire rate (standard build)

[stray rapids]

When I played with chlee I felt like lk is still better at beaming

[strong monolith]

224ms (32.5m) / 280ms

[stray rapids]

Damn

[strong monolith]

With recoil booster + 13mm

[rich arch]

its wild

[stray rapids]

Do headshots impact ttk massively

[rich arch]

shaves off one shot in the first range dont it

[stray rapids]

Is mg run in comp

[rich arch]

yes and its grossly op

someone showed a clip of a guy just spam firing and killing 3 in a row in snd

IN COMP

[strong monolith]

No

The upper body shots to just fine

[stray rapids]

Does it need upper body for 280ms infinite

[strong monolith]

3

But given the high fire rate, its easy to achieve the potential

[rich arch]

thats just half the shots

[hoary flare]

woah

can i opt out gran for other attachments

[rich arch]

ye

[hoary flare]

sped up kill?

[rich arch]

figured as much

[hoary flare]

full ammo?

[rich arch]

well if youre running gung ho thatd be useful

would ordinarily say just run vulture

[hoary flare]

ah alr

im prb gonna full ammo

since i love GH+Shotties

ight ima start grinding thx

[rich arch]

alr glgl

[young shale]

Frien!

Halo frien

[ornate jackal]

Worse, why can people flick shot with mg42😭

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

hai

:D

[young shale]

:D.

[hoary flare]

yes

[young shale]

U wat u tryna grind in codm now

Still w that aether skin

[hoary flare]

gold HS

i lazy grind aether MG42 -w-"

[young shale]

Hs0

?

[hoary flare]

2126

[young shale]

Oh

[hoary flare]

yeah

[young shale]

Thats kinda the last gun i wanna be golding

[hoary flare]

acc pretty fun sia

[young shale]

Wym

[hoary flare]

actually pretty fun

[young shale]

Aint no way😭

[hoary flare]

but you prb need full ammo if u using not vulture

[unique schooner]

HS2 is fun

[young shale]

Dem

I tot u would be like

[hoary flare]

lmao

[young shale]

Grinding hs0

Or krm

[hoary flare]

im prb gonna die on shorty grind

[hoary flare]

krm done liao

[young shale]

Fr

Then do hs0

[unique schooner]

i think thats one where you would want to do last

[hoary flare]

i hs2126 first

[unique schooner]

its kinda bullshit when it comes to gold

[hoary flare]

then hso

[hoary flare]

rocket launchers tho

how even do the 2 kills with one shot

[young shale]

You how much more camo need unlock

[hoary flare]

idk a lot

[young shale]

Ic

[hoary flare]

i record first

[young shale]

Record what

[unique schooner]

you'll get them passively as you play more so i wouldn't worry about it tbh, i already have them all diamond and imo it just takes some waiting

[young shale]

Record ahat

[hoary flare]

weapons

unholded weaposn

[young shale]

Dont come here show noob gameplay leh

Jkjkjkjk

[hoary flare]

xd

[young shale]

Bro at least u better than like ezekiel or sum💀🙏

[hoary flare]

oh nahh fr

he like use melee a lot

[young shale]

But he say trying use sniper more

[hoary flare]

ohhh

[young shale]

Bro u should see his skill he actually improved

[hoary flare]

i see i see

show some

[young shale]

I dont have his gameplay

[hoary flare]

sadge

[young shale]

Cos all of his is just me winning him constantly😭

[hoary flare]

iouh

[young shale]

Just ask him record gameplay

[hoary flare]

ight ight

[young shale]

Ok bai i need do d&t

[hoary flare]

glhf

[tawny dock]

Any one got a Oden build, I'm trying the 3 tap guns if it can help me rank up faster

[rich arch]

oden can two tap too yk

colossus
short barrel/
combat stock
gran
duplex mag

[tawny dock]

Thanks

[fast garden]

Best dlq 33 gunsmith

[chrome sundial]

Light suppressor
Light barrel
Combat stock
Ext mag a
Fmj

[spring vortex]

Best kilo 141 gunsmith

[rich arch]

mono
extended barrel
extended b mag
no stock
gran

[spring vortex]

I see kilo 141 the underdog flex build here I come

[rich arch]

its best as a flex ar

[spring vortex]

I tho ppl said it was krig

Hehehe time to beat them then

[rich arch]

theyre similar but kilo is way easier to use

[spring vortex]

[tawny walrus]

Tac suppressor
Extended barrel
Ranger fg
50 mag
Granulated grip

[rich arch]

use mono at least, ranger instead of no stock is extremely tight bsa and its already good at base

but eh its better as a flex ar imo

[tawny walrus]

Meh.

[spring vortex]

Alright I will try both thx you two

[rich arch]

wait a sec
marksman + steady stock should be significantly better than ranger fg + extended barrel

i gotta compare that

[tawny walrus]

sigh

[spring vortex]

Hmm

[tawny walrus]

I’d trust pro players builds more.

[spring vortex]

Now I feels like a test subject with these build

[rich arch]

lmao

[spring vortex]

[rich arch]

pro players also used grau and switchblade for ages 😭

[spring vortex]

Couldn't be me 🙂

[rich arch]

iirc marksman has same recoil buff as ranger fg but 6% ads speed downside instead of 15%, the strafe nerfs are the same, and as for bsa, tac fg or steady stock can fix that
marksman has more range though

plus tbh kilo doesnt need the extra bsa

so you get a free slot

or maybe im high so i should check stats and shush

[rich arch]

seems sarcastic 😭

[spring vortex]

Well you probably remember how much I love Gra.... Nvm

[rich arch]

[tawny walrus]

It’s been long time ago since these guns were used.

[rich arch]

well yeah bc drh meta swept in

[tawny walrus]

It’s T19 and Fennec meta right now.

And Oden suddenly.

[spring vortex]

Fennec is meta like years

[rich arch]

im surprised theyre using t19 and not grau tbh

[rich arch]

||cx9 better||

[spring vortex]

I mean there is cx9 but still

[rich arch]

auto sks goes hard
after the arm buff its pretty consistent at 2 tapping

[rich arch]

fennec just has the raw ttk

[gilded moth]

Ayo

[rich arch]

which ig is what matters in comp after all

[gilded moth]

Where the mula at

[shadow hound]

T19 better 🗿

simple

[rich arch]

ofc

but im surprised they know that, comp players tend to stick to what theyre used to

[brittle fog]

Bro y do my builds get alot of dislikes?

[rich arch]

Any BR builds?

[royal dagger]

I haven't checked them but my guess is that there's ways to make them better

[royal dagger]

Recoil booster, 250 rounds, stack accuracy and recoil with the remaining attachments

Idk if that's right but maybe another build expert can tell you

[surreal schooner]

Omg 😮

I want to get gun mythic

But I cant

[tawny walrus]

Oof.

[bright cloud]

Tbh buff didnt do as much as people are saying

[rich arch]

i hit shoulders a lot lol so eh

[rich arch]

can someone please give me a good demonsong loadout?

[bright cloud]

Monolithic suppresor
No stock
Extended mag b
Granulated grip
Extended barrel

[rich arch]

thanks

[surreal mica]

Best mg42 build?

[rich arch]

question

marksman + strike stock or tac fg, or extended light + ranger fg

[bright cloud]

What are ither 3 attachments?

[bright cloud]

What playstyle

[rich arch]

mono extended b and gran

im just wondering bc marksman gives ranger fg recoil + 15% more range at 9% less ads speed reduction

only difference is no bsa pro

[shadow hound]

Is this goated or garbage

[viscid walrus]

Pretty goated but replace the silencer with a sight because you get a kill streak it blocks your view

[shadow hound]

🤫🧏‍♂️

[surreal mica]

Aggressive

[narrow glen]

@surreal mica, 13 Server Rank

[viscid walrus]

Do you camp in ranked or do you rush

[rich arch]

use cx38s barrel and you then have a free slot for tac laser, soh, or a red dot

why slow it down and kill a slot for like 10% more range

[rich arch]

replacing silencer for sight

[hoary flare]

striker build

shotgun

[hoary flare]

garbage

cx38 integral suppressor better

[bright cloud]

If so marksman no stock

[bright cloud]

13mm mag
Taped or leeather or granular grip
S91mg stock
355 rapid barrel
Recoil booster

[bright cloud]

Cx38s*

[rich arch]

my passive build is cooked well then

[bright cloud]

If you remove silencer then use cx38s

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

is this good

i cant seem to find the smiler guy

[rich arch]

retractable barrel

[hoary flare]

oh

[rich arch]

and id user laser and gran bc its more for ads imo

[hoary flare]

15 kills at longdistance damn

do i use slugs?

[rich arch]

-30% spread from the barrel to begin with

[rich arch]

no

[hoary flare]

oh

shld i use 16 round drum

[rich arch]

fast reload better bc that mf has to load so many shells 😭

[hoary flare]

oh fair

[narrow glen]

@hoary flare, 36 Server Rank

[rich arch]

and you can fire sooner like that too

so less capacity is only a half truth

pretty sure thats smilers build too tbh

[hoary flare]

i only got 5 longshots

and my minimap made me lose some kills

[rich arch]

are you trying in ranked or smth

[hoary flare]

no lmao

shitment cuz thats the only way i can longshot

[rich arch]

do killhouse or rust

[hoary flare]

oh?

[rich arch]

small but with some longhsot potential

[hoary flare]

damn didnt know that

[rich arch]

yeah i used rust for shorty longshots its pretty good

actually rust > killhouse bc theres still some sweats in killhouse

[hoary flare]

oooh

[hoary flare]

cripple the enemy first then shorty to finish them?

[rich arch]

yeah sniper legshot then a kill is pretty much guaranteed

[hoary flare]

M21 hm

camp at the top tower right

[rich arch]

uhh i feel like thats sorta glitched or just hard to gauge range from
go ahead and try it but see if just corners of the map work better too

[hoary flare]

ouh

alr thx

[rich arch]

ye np

[native canopy]

dlq build

for mp

[rich arch]

light barrel
combat stock
light sup
fmj
ext mag a

[hoary flare]

rust rly helped a lot, turns out the tower can be used for longshots

[rich arch]

nice

wait what part of the tower

[hoary flare]

indeed

[hoary flare]

uh the tall one

i usually camp at the highest point you can go

[rich arch]

ahh yeah thatd def work

[hoary flare]

mhm

[rich arch]

out of curiosity, how many shots did you usually take to kill

[hoary flare]

depends

like 3-4 ish shots

[rich arch]

not too bad

[hoary flare]

yeah

polish my argus build cuz idk

i didnt know what to put so i just went with the recommended attachments

[rich arch]

laser is a no bc hipfire with argus is a meme
marauder sup or black ops sup whatever its callled bc its really just a marksman
no stock is also bad on it, id use an ads speed grip

[hoary flare]

ohhh

[hoary flare]

BO silencer?

[rich arch]

yuh

[hoary flare]

i see

do i change the lever?

[rich arch]

im on laptop i aint got pics rn 😭

[rich arch]

iirc the level is fine unless you want to prioritize bsa over bolt speed in which case use a mag

[hoary flare]

ohhh kk

i prb want faster rof

[rich arch]

ye imo thats better

[hoary flare]

oh nice

10 rounds is alright

[rich arch]

yeah whichever works, its pretty flexible

[spring vortex]

Man now I need to get HDR lucky seven epic blueprint for mellow HDR build lol

[royal dagger]

Yo

Fast reload or ext mag for qxr?

[spring vortex]

Ext mag

SMG always need more mag unless cx9 burst

[native blade]

And CBR4

[viscid belfry]

pdw and p90 dont have mags bc its alot and enough

striker eh 45 is more than enough for that shit

[teal brook]

Oden and drh build plz?

[formal river]

Dang really?

I always have an extended mag for it

[narrow glen]

@tall flame, 24 Server Rank

[formal river]

Oh ok

What should I replace the mag for?

[teal brook]

Thx

[stray rapids]

Krig or grau

??

[teal brook]

For a more smg like playstyle grau is better then krig

Otherwise krig is easily better then grau

[stray rapids]

Ah

[teal brook]

👍

[stray rapids]

Wait....

Y'all are different mfs

[teal brook]

Yes we are

We are in fact not a hive mind

Me and @tall flame

[stray rapids]

Suspicious

[teal brook]

Because Porky didn't realize we r two different ppl

[spring vortex]

Best mg42 build for snd please ? @rich arch @gloomy pagoda

[teal brook]

No

I wish the mg42 was never added

[tawny walrus]

Try:
Maxim suppressor
682 barrel
Red dot
13mm mag
Leather grip

[spring vortex]

Yeah I'm sick of mg42 but when the whole enemy team spamming it I gotta join to get fair fight

[tawny walrus]

If you’re fine with iron sights, then used S91 stock.

I’m gonna get mastery and diamond and will forget about its existence.

[spring vortex]

Which one ? The pad or mg

[tawny walrus]

Pad.

Wait, it should KRAUSNIK 91S.

[vast horizon]

striker 45 build pls

[hoary flare]

400mm stainless steel
guardian stock
laser
45 mag
mono supp

[marsh anvil]

Ifk

[bright cloud]

300mm

[hoary flare]

oh

[spring vortex]

Oh my gawd the mg42 toxic trash talk is real thx guys finally I can abuse it and make ppl rage in chat

[hoary flare]

by15 build

do i use slugs?

okay i should use slugs

[bright cloud]

Slugs no stock extended barrel marauder suppresor tactical laser

[hoary flare]

thx

[young shale]

Frien:D

Why frien no reply:(

[rich arch]

@rich arch mythic dlq is coming back next season

[rich arch]

Use it as a mini sniper?

[hoary flare]

fwen :D

[hoary flare]

i grinding BY15 gold .p.

[young shale]

Oooo

[hoary flare]

yus

[young shale]

Oki

[bright cloud]

Use it for ads+hipfire. More like marksman shotgun combo

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

yesh

[young shale]

Ye

:D.

[hoary flare]

trying to get used to adsing with shotties

:3c

[young shale]

Idk more of hipfiring

[rich arch]

Which of the two has more range lethality, Argus or BY15 slugs

[young shale]

Deffo argus

[bright cloud]

Argus

[hoary flare]

i mean by15 slug only has 1 pellet

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[hoary flare]

Argy

[rich arch]

Alrighty

Is there a reason why ppl stopped using argus

[young shale]

I mean should use without slug

[rich arch]

Since it a very solid weapon

[hoary flare]

oh

i tried hipfiring with it

[young shale]

Whats your best gun rn

[hoary flare]

idk

i use a variety

[bright cloud]

People are dumb

[bright cloud]

No by15 slugs is waaaaay better than base slugs

[bright cloud]

Skugs hipfire is hella good too

[rich arch]

[hoary flare]

oh damn

fr?

[bright cloud]

Yea its very accurate.

[hoary flare]

neat

[bright cloud]

That makes it harder to use than krm tho

[hoary flare]

fair enough

only 1 shot per round

[bright cloud]

Ye

[rich arch]

Do you guys think the mythic dlq is good, bad or mid?

Is it worth it?

[rich arch]

ik

already considering dumping another $30 on this game

[rich arch]

9/10 mythic once you adjust to it

[rich arch]

Do you think is worth upgrading? Because tracers are more like noticeable on guns than snipers

Maybe only up to level 2 for the kill effects?

[rich arch]

Wait for mythic fennec if you don't have it yet

[proven hare]

Some build for Like

Idk that gun but its smg

[ornate jackal]

Its leggys are very comparable

[rich arch]

Yee

[spring vortex]

Alright krig build for snd please 😦

I'm desperate now

To get to leggy soon and never touch rank again

[ornate jackal]

Yeah desperation should send u to hvk

Actually just mg42, skill < ranking fast

[unreal gale]

@ornate jackal

[bright cloud]

Firm grip
Taskforce barrel
Agency suppresor
Lightwe8ght stock
Eytended mag v

[ornate jackal]

The accuracy is crazy

[spring vortex]

Thx but do I need rds ?

Or nah ?

[bright cloud]

Do you?

[hoary flare]

is LW stock>Agile?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[hoary flare]

oh cool

no need for STF buff?

[young shale]

Yo question

[hoary flare]

yesh?

whatcha need

[young shale]

What ls your best gun

[hoary flare]

idk tbh

[young shale]

Dang

Whatchu use the most

[hoary flare]

depends on what gun im grinding diamond

so rn its the Aug/AGR

[young shale]

Ah ic😂

[hoary flare]

yeah

[young shale]

How good are you w sniper rn

[viscid belfry]

terrible horrible

[young shale]

I was asking my frien but ok

[viscid belfry]

ik lol

but i like share how bad i am

[hoary flare]

so-so?

[young shale]

Itok

Everyone starts somewhere

Plus even the pro snipers say they bad

[viscid belfry]

im bad most bc of my aim

i miss a shot even when someone stand still

[ornate jackal]

Skull

Ye i could be better too tho, with 1 tap guns

Gotta use them more

@bright cloud i need an argus build

Im doing shotguns in ranked, and im only missing argus, krm, and uh striker i think

Krm kinda bad to me

So argus on top

[hoary flare]

-BO barrel
-BO silencer
-classical lever
-no stock
-owc laser

[cunning galleon]

whats bullet spread? like theres ads bullet spread, hipfire bullet spread, but theres also bullet spread without ads or hipfire. what does that affect?

[eternal maple]

someone atacment has

[prisma surge]

does anyone have a xpr build

[bright cloud]

Bo stock
Bo grip
Tactical laser
Outlaw mag
Choke

[bright cloud]

Range voosting does norhing

[ornate jackal]

What over laser

Do i use lever

[bright cloud]

Bo lever

Aggro or passive

13mm mag
355 rapid barrel
Recoil booster
Taped grip
S91mg stock

Flex smg cordite and qxr fley ar hvk

[static rose]

I need DL Q33 build

[tawny light]

Yea

[tawny light]

Even I want cordite

[static rose]

Thanks

[tawny light]

Thank

[narrow glen]

@tawny light, 17 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

I'd use 6.5mm

For bsa

[static rose]

👍

[ruby iris]

And maxim supp cuz yes

[bright cloud]

Cordite
light stock
Extended barrel
Granulated grip tape
80 round mag
Monolithic suppresor

Qxr: more aggro or more flex?

[bright cloud]

@tawny light

[bright cloud]

With taoed grip its fine tbh

[ruby iris]

I'd prefer leather grip, but that's just me

[bright cloud]

Marksman
Mono
No stock
Granulated grip
Tactical laser

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Ye ots either better handling or better range

[ornate jackal]

Ty

[tawny walrus]

T19 stats wise.

[bright cloud]

Type 19 better by far

[ocean narwhal]

when are they gonna delete mg42

istg devs always make the dumbest shit possible

they either have some serious issues with aiming or their kids who play codm do

[bright cloud]

Accurate barrel
Heavyweight suppresor
Polymer grip
Agile stock
Fast reload mag

[shadow hound]

2 times polymer grip

That's crazy

[bright cloud]

Dementia

[shadow hound]

Btw what's the best rds for cx9

I've seen people using rds 1 instead of classic on it

[ornate jackal]

Ty for the build @bright cloud

Lever over laser definitely

[viscid belfry]

none

but if u want a rds use 1

[static zodiac]

I would like the fennec build of BalorMobile

[bright cloud]

Classic

[bright cloud]

Nah use
Monolithic suppresor
Extended barrel
Steady stock
Operator foregrip
Extended mag a

[static zodiac]

ok ty

[rich arch]

Test

Alright 👌 working

[static zodiac]

no scope ?

[bright cloud]

You want it? Replace steady stock for red dot and operator foregrip for ranger foregrip. You have to try it yourself to know if you need it tho

[static zodiac]

ok

[rich arch]

@bright cloud thoughts on peacekeeper

[fluid trout]

Thoughts on akimbo fennec 😏

[formal river]

Never say those words again

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

tracers are p2l lol never upgrade a gun whose sights dont change

[viscid belfry]

whats to be tracers

[rich arch]

your bullets

mythics have different colors and effects in the bullets called tracers

[viscid belfry]

ah

[rich arch]

looks pretty but it makes your firing visible asf

[viscid belfry]

the ones who r bad for snd

[rich arch]

yeah especially in snd

[viscid belfry]

yes

for other modes its nice

[rich arch]

hmm

[viscid belfry]

well i dont have a max mythic to test:/

[rich arch]

i think my switchblade has tracers

but idk

[viscid belfry]

ah ye sb has

new mythics has this feature

[rich arch]

yup

[viscid belfry]

lmao new p90 leggy looks funny

[rich arch]

havent heard of it yet

[hoary flare]

whats the first gun

koshka?

[viscid belfry]

a crocodile skin

[rich arch]

ill have to see

[rich arch]

yup, the ironclad enforcer bp skin. im assuming itll return fairly soon, it was early last year when it released

ive owned it on my former main and the dlq on a shared account, both feel amazing

[dusty heart]

Chat are these still good builds for said guns

[hoary flare]

woah

[sweet flower]

8/10

[hoary flare]

why light stock tho

[sweet flower]

use laser instead of soh on bizon and mono instead of tac and use 30mm mag on qq9 cuz its better if u hit shot

[dusty heart]

I don’t have ads time issues

[sweet flower]

yeah no stock better on all these guns except bizon

[dusty heart]

Only qq9 and bizon have no stock

[hoary flare]

really?

[sweet flower]

oh yeah

use no stock on qq9 ig

[hoary flare]

technically mac10 has no stock

but it increases stf delay only

[sweet flower]

🤓

[dusty heart]

Nah

[hoary flare]

yes

[sweet flower]

why?

[dusty heart]

Strafe is more important, I preaim alot so ads time isn’t an issue

[hoary flare]

i think strafe speed with no stock is fine

[sweet flower]

hmm sure

[hoary flare]

i se

[dusty heart]

I run a holger build with 508 ms ads time as well so yh preaim alot cuz muscle memory

[dusty heart]

Disable on bizon btw, dislike lasers

Idk about 30mm on qq9

[sweet flower]

its better in everything and has a 3 tap ttk better then hvk

[hoary flare]

darn

[sweet flower]

but its harder to use

[hoary flare]

you need good aim

but its better than large mag imo

[sweet flower]

why its a aggressive but if you pre aim a lot then sure ig

I dont see a problem with them on aggressive guns even in snd

[dusty heart]

I’ll give it a try

[hoary flare]

yeah

[viscid belfry]

tbh not worth

maybe bc im bad

[hoary flare]

its worth it if you train your aim

[viscid belfry]

how and where i can train

[hoary flare]

practise range

yes

[rich arch]

nah

bizon: use mono, skeleton stock
gks is fine but imo fast mag better
just use no stock on qq9 and 10mm mag
and why not combat stock for mac10

[wintry abyss]

bizon max ads movement is actually amazing

[rich arch]

skeleton stock is like 5% less than light except it also gives an ads speed bonus

[ruby iris]

And less bsa penalty

[viscid belfry]

is marksman barrel worth on bizon?

[rich arch]

yes

[sweet flower]

not rlly

extended+mono better

[rich arch]

extended is better imo but eh if you want recoil control

[sweet flower]

not marksmen+Tac

[rich arch]

though it has no recoil

[mint zephyr]

anyone got a good tundra build?

[viscid belfry]

i use it but ok

[sweet flower]

mono+Extended better uwu

[sweet flower]

snd or respawn?

[viscid belfry]

no uwu and got it

[mint zephyr]

snd

[viscid belfry]

use main build without laser and done

[sweet flower]

tac,7 rnd,serpent wrap, tiger forged,fmj

[viscid belfry]

and a supp too

[sweet flower]

how will he know main build?

[viscid belfry]

fr ppl r dummy

[sweet flower]

k

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch read dm bro

[ruby iris]

Marksman is worth it

More range

Same ads

Only real penalty is movement

[rich arch]

exactly

and its like 15%

[rich arch]

i was on yt

[viscid belfry]

ext 10% marksman 16%

[ruby iris]

same frame

[rich arch]

marksman is only a difference on ars

also marksman barrel > ranger fg

[sharp sable]

Hey guys I need dingo lmg gunsmith

[rich arch]

any thing expect mag in Steel Rain

you don‘t need a steel rain mag

then switch foregrip to black ops foregrip

[rich arch]

comp main ar kilo stack both of them btw

or you could just use operator foregrip

that also works to deal with headgltiches

theres better passive guns than main ar kilo

(as the cod games are mostly this pattern: find power position—>shoot—>headglitch
you need a method to counter headglitches and these position)

only difference is kilo mythic has op visibility

[rich arch]

steal rain suppressor, grip, barrel, and stock, and then aim assist laser

[rich arch]

full passive? Yes but extremely heavy in terms to move around in obj games
kilo is more like keeping the part of mobility that aren‘t ads movement speed

[rich arch]

i dont suggest not using foregrip on dingo btw

[rich arch]

its ranged ttk gets kinda meh

the horizontal recoil is extremely swaggy up to 30m

ul, m16, kn/lk are better iirc

[spring vortex]

Krig is kinda good but the iron sight

:/

[rich arch]

and dingo itself isnt viable past that. semi aggro lmg though it always sucks

[rich arch]

well you exchange that for the mobility to win obj games by moving

[rich arch]

kilo but aim shake and requires red dot

[rich arch]

backup:

lk mobility should be comparable too

[rich arch]

that doesn‘t exist in solo ranked

plus you dont have to do an absurd recoil stack

[rich arch]

what??

[rich arch]

that mode isn‘t comp stuff

[spring vortex]

Tbh just get a good control recoil only problem is horizontal recoil

[rich arch]

but if they add backup to ranked then yes, the gunsmith games are going to work around hardpoint camping

any weapons that have insane horizontal recoil should have the recoil being dealt with first

I really don’t understand the minds on those who don‘t thing it is an issue

the thing that doesn’t need to stack is vertical recoil

[rich arch]

...everyone has a secondary slot

but horizontal recoil have to be deal with

yeah ofc

but nothing really changes horizontal recoil besides field agent/bo foregrips

[spring vortex]

Get dlq

That koshka feels like holo sight ngl

[rich arch]

its better than it looks once you get used to it

[stray rapids]

Bruh doesn't base kilo have a ton of shake

[rich arch]

the rear sight does but thats not a ton of issue. and it still feels great

[stray rapids]

Shakes like shit even with red dot lol

[ruby iris]

[spring vortex]

Hmm just cut your nail into triangle shape and get extra recoil control

[stray rapids]

Russia

[rich arch]

kilo red dot has shake

most red dots do

[stray rapids]

Krig doesn't shake as much as kilo

Not at all

Kilo one of those guns u need mythic to be good

[ruby iris]

Anime kilo

[rich arch]

youre high

[stray rapids]

Ionno that

[rich arch]

krig requires a red dot for one

kilo doesnt

[stray rapids]

Ure the one that's high

[rich arch]

and theres the gentlemans calling bp skin

[stray rapids]

Kilo problem is the shake

[rich arch]

nah almost anyone would agree kilo base is 10x better than krig base

[stray rapids]

👍

[sweet flower]

but much better 4 shot range

[rich arch]

yeah and you gotta kill ads speed or strafe to achieve visibility and you still get awful shake and less capacity

[sweet flower]

I find the 20% ads speed not as important for passive flex krig

krig is a lot harder to use with aim shake and recoil

but I would say the extra range makes up for hard to use

without mythic/leggy krig=kilo with krig>kilo

[rich arch]

what

[stray rapids]

It was a gey slur

[sweet flower]

lol

[sweet flower]

cuz theres no need for rds and it seems like less aimshake with mythic

[stray rapids]

Mythic is a world of a difference

[rich arch]

there is need for rds

[sweet flower]

with mythic?

[rich arch]

without

[stray rapids]

Agency
Rds
Strafe stock
Firm
Mag B

[rich arch]

and kilo aimshake with mythic is worlds less thab krig mythic

[sweet flower]

ture

[rich arch]

where tfb

[stray rapids]

The others are more valuable

[sweet flower]

cavalry barrel where?

[rich arch]

yeah krig mythic still feels like dog

[stray rapids]

What

[sweet flower]

where da barrel at my

[stray rapids]

It's funny cos I think krig and kilo mythic feels godly

Let's leave it as preference lol

[rich arch]

i aced with kilo mythic in flippin takeoff

so yes its good
but i can barely get a killstreak with krig in tdm

[stray rapids]

I think hvk MFS would love krig

[rich arch]

krig cant three tap

[stray rapids]

Recoil wise

Hvk is obv better

[rich arch]

ahh

hvk dont really have aim shake but recoil on it is eh

[stray rapids]

Back when I was a hvk mf krig recoil felt super easy

[rich arch]

im aggro with hvk so idm

i use lk for krig role

[rich arch]

@rich arch I agree krig 6 sounds like mythic krig 6

[slate lodge]

Which one Assault weapon is best in game

Damage, accuracy and mobility

[hoary flare]

depends

[bright cloud]

Borderline meta

Well it was meta but t19 buff pushed it out a lil

[rich arch]

Will the cbr4 lattice ever come back

[tawny walrus]

I think it can, but without Messi.

[stone venture]

what trigger do i use for an akimbo dobvra gunsmith

using it as sniper support for my na45

[stone venture]

if thats all ur looking for then maybe the oden or as val

[hoary flare]

akimbo dobvras suck

[stone venture]

what pistol then

[hoary flare]

single dobvra

[ocean narwhal]

i use it to annoy people and to annoy people only

= good

[hoary flare]

damn

no 1>2

mathematically inaccurate, but quality>quantity

[ocean narwhal]

more boolet more damage

[hoary flare]

no

akimbo dobvras could do 9 damage only

[stone venture]

drop the gunsmith

[hoary flare]

alr hang on

[stone venture]

i need a replacement for nailgun

[stone venture]

thanks

[hoary flare]

slightly slower ads time but works kinda like an smg

[stone venture]

is it good for hipfire too

[hoary flare]

no

but ig you could give it a try

[stone venture]

ok

[ocean narwhal]

good for killing krm dogs

best pesticide

[stone venture]

i will not use your gunsmith

[ocean narwhal]

effective against krm cockroaches and melee rats

[stone venture]

no i want it for mid-long range

incase i miss my na45

like a backup

[ocean narwhal]

u dont use pistol for mid-long range

at least not dobvra

[stone venture]

i meant mid-close

[rich arch]

why karabin

[rich arch]

use deagle for thart

[hoary flare]

idk

recoil control???

[rich arch]

you have the leggy too, nice
kinda feels evil to waste the sights icl

[rich arch]

ngl it might be like a frame of difference for ads speed so maybe it dont matter

[odd axle]

Can anyone recommend a tundra build?

[narrow glen]

@odd axle, 14 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

Tax suppressor
Tiger team barrel
FMJ
7 mag
Serpent wrap

[odd axle]

Thanks

[hoary flare]

oh i see

[rich arch]

Yo, question. What is, in your opinion the best build for running speed? I need a gun that allows me to straight up zoom around the map like the Flash or something.

[hoary flare]

krm??

+gung ho

[rich arch]

KRM you say? What attachments?

[stone venture]

i meant mid-close range

[rich arch]

dobvras good then

[ocean narwhal]

u basically want to turn off ur brain and run around

[stone venture]

gimme the gunsmith

[ocean narwhal]

change laser if u want smth else

[rich arch]

mono is crazy

[ocean narwhal]

oil can overkill

[rich arch]

just use oil can

[ocean narwhal]

also ms penalty

[rich arch]

or agency

i use agency bc yes

[ocean narwhal]

yeah thats fine

[stone venture]

why not heavyweight double

[rich arch]

faster fire rate

[ocean narwhal]

higher fire rate

= good shit

pocket m13

[rich arch]

only way you'll win against lcars

lcar feels like dog for ads kills

[ocean narwhal]

i prefer j358 ngl

over autos

[rich arch]

also feels awful without scorpion skin or smth

[ocean narwhal]

i have that skin but i hate the irons

[stone venture]

the hipfire acc 😭

[ocean narwhal]

base better fr

[rich arch]

wild

[rich arch]

if you want hipfire go for akimbo or lcar

[stone venture]

isnt lcar dog for ads kills

[rich arch]

ads is always way more useful

Mg42 red dot gunsmith for mp?

[stone venture]

gimme a hybrid

bro give me a nailgun with more ammo

[ocean narwhal]

change disable

[rich arch]

dobvra without trigger or auto barrel is like that and its garbage

[ruby iris]

Agency supp
5mw
Striker/bo
Fast ext
Strafe stock

[ocean narwhal]

rapid barrel is also good

[stone venture]

nailgun deals more damage wdym

[hoary flare]

yea

recoil is crazy

[stone venture]

thanos

[rich arch]

Oh alr lemme try it

[stone venture]

thanks

[ruby iris]

[stone venture]

when u type thanos instead of thanks

[stone venture]

bro this aint dobvra

[ruby iris]

I thought you need lcar

[stone venture]

i wanted a nailgun with higher mag

[rich arch]

Pretry much yes 😂

[rich arch]

Thx bud

[stone venture]

guess ill make my own gunsmith

unless someone has a good heavyweight trigger gunsmith

[rich arch]

why use heavyweight

youre just slowing ttk

[stone venture]

it feels nicer

[rich arch]

.

[stone venture]

it feels better

im not gonna lie i get more kills with heavyweight than with the other ones

[rich arch]

its just a minor recoil difference

[stone venture]

it just feels

better

like i said

i wanted a nail gun with more ammo

why wont they let us smith the nailgun

[rich arch]

no naillgun irl can really be changed

[hoary flare]

its a tool

[stone venture]

bro no sniper irl shoots c4

bro dobvra doesnt get that lock on effect i get on other guns

[rich arch]

weak aim assist maybe

[stone venture]

probably

[rich arch]

or youre getting distracted by the aim shake

[stone venture]

thats why i like the nailgun morew

[rich arch]

bc its aim shake is absurd

[stone venture]

fr?

[rich arch]

nailgun is highkey trash though

[stone venture]

only cause it has small mag

[rich arch]

the front sights shake above the rear sights 💀

[rich arch]

no its ttk is bad too

especially at range

for 3 shots its decent ttk but its cutoff is really fast and is 4-5-6 after that which is garbage ttk

and its accuracy feels pretty bad

[stone venture]

just put a monolithic on it

[rich arch]

no attachments

[stone venture]

:(

[rich arch]

oh right nailgun cant be suppressed either

[stone venture]

this is why it needs attachments

fr

[rich arch]

well like

[stone venture]

i might use the mw3

[rich arch]

nailguns dont have attahcment railings

or removable parts

besides mag

or a muzzle that can have a muzzle attached

[rich arch]

its mid

[stone venture]

we should be able to put sleight of hand on nailgun

[rich arch]

Kind of goes hard but lacks mobility

[rich arch]

2nd is more mobile

past that it is still an lmg

[stone venture]

word

[rich arch]

I only saw one, lemme check that one out also

Mb

[stone venture]

smh ima just get the nailgun

diamond nailgun

fr

[rich arch]

Absolutely not a single reason we should have short mags

Give me a 50 rnd nail gain

[rich arch]

itd be fair

[stone venture]

do u have a br mg42 sniper support gunsmith

[rich arch]

uhh im not too great with br gunsmiths

[stone venture]

shit bro

idk what to use as sniper support

[half fulcrum]

Dlq

Or hdr

[stone venture]

i said sniper support

not sniper

[half fulcrum]

Oh

😂

Just use smg or sg

[stone venture]

lmao ok

[bright cloud]

Removed stock craver foregrip rapud barrel 6.5mm mag recoil booster

[bright cloud]

Bro now became a gambler

[rich arch]

have been for about a week

had W methods and got the role fast

[stone venture]

nvm bro i just use qq9

actually, ima use that instead

bro my teammates are still morons

i tell them to use smoke they dont use shit

wHere are their smokes bro

[rich arch]

5 more melees left

and then i can focus on the launchers to damscus, if i am fast enough to get the crossbow and nail gun gold

[bright cloud]

Isjt that 6?

[rich arch]

oops

but almost there

[spring vortex]

Yeah

[rich arch]

12 weapons left to damascus gang

[spring vortex]

Just grind shipment

[tawny walrus]

I think he knows already.

sigh I’d like to experience Damascus grind once again…

[stone venture]

smg mg42 is op

[rich arch]

That's valid to be honest. If aim is fine you can't go wrong with a little bit of strafe boost. To be honest light stock also feels good for me

[austere igloo]

What shld I get

[austere igloo]

Whaa

[shadow hound]

Making Waves or Assault Pattern

[rich arch]

Will they ever return back the older ones?

[shadow hound]

No

[fluid trout]

akimbo fennec is so hot 😍

got the best build for it 😏

and been maining it

[rich arch]

garbage

hot garbage

[fluid trout]

i mean it works somehow 🤷‍♀️

[tawny walrus]

Eww.

[fluid trout]

idk how but i been crushing ppl in legendary ranked with it

even top 5k people die to it somehow 🤷‍♀️

[ocean narwhal]

yeah killing people with 1.2kd isnt called "working"

[tawny walrus]

Top 5k ≠ skilled players.

It just means that they have a lot of spare time.

[rich arch]

real

[rich arch]

some of the worst plauers ive seen are top 5k

[ocean narwhal]

lifeless kids occupy 80% of top 5k

[rich arch]

reported multiple for throwing the match

[ocean narwhal]

play more and get carried

[rich arch]

i got top 5k on two accounts and i was thumbs

though i also got actually hard lobbies but still

[ocean narwhal]

its funny how people still think top 5k requires skill

i miss 2019 s1-2

u actually get punished for being trash

[rich arch]

real

[tawny walrus]

Well, I only started playing ranked in 2022.

[spring vortex]

Striker 45 build for snd please

Without ret dot sight

[rich arch]

mono
poly barrel
guardian stock?
gran
ext mag

[spring vortex]

If only we they increase the fire rate 69 or 70

[hoary flare]

is this good dp12 build

[rich arch]

yes best one

[hoary flare]

awesome

[weary aurora]

They were no try hards then

the game has progressed in terms of getting new skilled players

[shadow hound]

Back at that time, we didn't have many good competitive FPS games, so not many people were worried about improving their gameplay, everyone was thumbs players.

[rich arch]

thumbs players can be plenty good

[rich arch]

well thats not true but the matchmaking was balanced