#codm-gunsmith-help
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They’re dumb to read rules.
I see
Lol
Lmao
"Hey can someone give me their CODM account with hundreds of dollars spent on skins for my badass Roblox items 🤓"
But other marksmans are better
Integral suppresor barrel
Fmj
Light/heavy bolt
Damage mag
Combat stock
sks suure
kilo bolt nah
and what is the other marksman
Kilo bolt is literally A better spr
Mk2
??
only with thermite mag but that makes almost always trade?
Nooooo with stopping power mag
there is stopping power mag in kilo bolt?
Same ads speed
1 shot to stomach till infinity
how did i just know that
Yes it makes it a better spr
Cuz everyone be using thermite and thinking sp is useless
Altough since in game reccomended builds have been updated sp is in the reccomended build and it will probably see slightly more usage
@rich arch kilo bolt is literally better
Bad guns* 
i should use na45
No.
Need build?
I suggest striker shotgun and na45!
Okay?
Lmao i do
Doesnt change fact your build is ass frombwhat i remember
You just want to add mobility on a na45 
No i dknt
Gunsmith
5mw laser
No stock
Marauder suppresor
Stippled grip/extended tube
Extended barrel
Tq sir
The striker is hard to use?
Minus the striker shotgun and replace R9-0 
Cause the reloading
R9 is meta wdym
Ah see I don't mind it
The R9 is super easy to use lol
Accurate barrel
Heavyweight suppresor
Agile stock
Polymer grip
Fast reload mah
How do I get a mythic weapon
You pay
Isnt that build gonna be slow? Lol
- You need to range boost
- Nah
Ok you do you then lol
Any good ak117 build for fast ttk and control?
Skeleton stock
Ykm integral suppresor
Granulated grip
40 round mag
Owc laser
Eh i would call it decent
I mean you can either use marksman barrel or ranger and monolithic or tactical suppressor
Striker is such a anyonebutapollo moment
What
It isnt ranger its extended light and integral id worst barrel on 99% guns
Yeah i guess
best smg in codm rn??
@storm iron,
14 Server Rank
Pharo
nah jk,
● Fennec
● CX9
● Switchblade
● OTs 9
yo i read pharo first and got a heart attack😂
fennec ?/
alr
Mac 10 is also great as well
There are many to choose from
So go experiment them and see on what's suitable for you
QQ9 is also great too
Tbh pharo also good
Gm 2
Buffed with the taser
oh i remember when qq9 was meta
QXR is great as well
ok chill i will use fennec
PP19 Bizon is great for beginners
i downloaded the game after ages and still slayin
Damn good for you then👍
Even wzm is gonna make my phone explode
Optimization for android sucks
Used for carpentry
nah jk,
The nail gun is a secondary pistol
ok
ill use melee for those melee absures
Ok good luck
Ok np
Switchblade just makes this list 100% wrong
Yeah i mean its your opinion so.
Fennec and cx9 are the meta 1000+ rpm smgs. If something slower doesnt bother you there is qq9 and ots9. Mx9 too but thta has horrible recoil. Qxr is this wierd hybrid smg inbetween flex and aggro smg. True flex sngs are cordite and pdw
?
alr
Bro you cant just say a d tier gun is a top 5 smg and say ,,YoU dO yOu"
qxr
Corditae is decent
yes
@narrow glen m16 wild fire build for multiplayer
Oh, the M16 with Wildfire is an absolute beast in multiplayer! For the best build, I recommend using the MIP Light Barrel (Short), RTC Light Muzzle Brake, OWC Laser - Tactical, Granulated Grip Tape, and of course the Wildfire Perk. This setup will give you insane fire rate and accuracy, perfect for melting enemies in close to mid-range combat. Trust me, you'll be dropping nukes in no time with this loadout! 🔥

@bright cloud is duplex ammo statistically better? because i used it and felt no difference.

I just stick with my Arctic 50 and I’m good.
The Arctic 50 is a solid choice for sure! It's a great sniper rifle with high damage and accuracy, perfect for picking off enemies from a distance. If you're comfortable with it and hitting those sweet quickscopes, then stick with what works for you! Just remember, if you ever feel like mixing it up, there are plenty of other awesome weapons to try out in Call of Duty: Mobile. Happy hunting! 🎯
Some AI stuff?

Interesting reaction.
Oh, you bet it is! Just like the time I sniped ItZFounder through a wall with a frag! Good times, good times. So, what's on your mind today, soldier?
Bloodshed.🙂
Oh, you're in for a treat then! Nothing gets the blood pumping like a good old-fashioned Call of Duty: Mobile match. Are you ready to jump into the action and dominate the battlefield? Let's go!
@strong monolith sir?
I wanna know about this too

Yuh
yes it increases constitency needing only one pellet in arm/chest to confirm 2 shot kill in first range
but after recent buff its not as nescerary as before
I would still reccomend it tho
Pls chopper build
Heavy handle
Monolithic suppresor
Disable/SOH perk
Owc laser/MIP 5mW
120 round reload or marksman barrel
120 rounds...?
Sorry i meant the heaviest barrel on the chopper
Or you can go for ranger barrel imo
Thanks
Its the same thing but with different name
It alr has decent range
Its basically owc ranger on drh
yea

Imcreases 2 tap consistency
you increase consistency in exchange of long range 2 tap probability
pro still use default mag
Yea but like duplex allows 40 meters 2 tap to happen if you can manipulate bsa attachments
An anyone give tec 9 build
I thought duplex ammo sucks duck to be honest
Burst fire repeater muzzle
Taskforce barrel
Stanag mag
Airborne elastic wrap
Sas combat stock
Nah it was a muts before buff but its still strong after oden buff
is the bug still there?
No 😭. Its still comp meta tho
Okay bro not everyone is active 24/7
I know lol
Huh
Oden has bug?
Was oden bugged back then?
Oh yeah and i remember the HBR Steel carnage skit got a bug lol
Wtf
Last season
0 bsa bug, ye
After codm fixed it i was still using that gunsmith lmao
Maddox echo fire mod was broken back then
Now its a mid ahh gun now
FFAR is the most flexible ARs this season to be honest
PDW as well
It seems there r many changes to the game
nerfed iirc
And i remember the CBR was meta for almost a year
over a year
And that gave me a brain aneurysm tbh
0 bsa
Had*
Ok yeah thats broken lol
Only recoil was an issue. Besides it could kill at whatecer range
oden kinda good but you need a good build and pre aim tho
Yes
Its quite broken in BR
Oh u can equip the mythic lmao
Thermite mow is also broken and gae in BR
weird my build only has vertical recoil tho
So yeah
the horizontal recoil almost non existent
But now everyone is using mg42
well at least you can get a trade kill of mg42 w mow thermite lol
Eh there is 0 reason to use it iver fast firing guns with same ttk
And annoying
Cuz thats recoil of the gun. Stupidly high vertical 0 horizontal
Nah it isnt tbh
Just use that perk
Yes
Yeah i agree with you
Mg42 is super gae in BR
And BR matches are full of bots and campers tbh
So yeah i dont play br that much so
Yeah
well that is just br in general
Fr
Camp for points 
So I don't like playing it
And there were full of shotguns in br
Idk after nerf how shotguns be changed in br
they no longer one hit right
If the whole team don't bring dauntless then thermite will be good
But I doubt most of them won't try that due to mg42
Lol i still remember the drh and the ak47 can 2tap on the head
Btw how the fuck I control na recoil
Only drh got nerfed into 3 tap on heads
Ak is still able to 2 tap
Good

alcatraz was hellish
with shotgunners running around, one hitting everyone with full armour
They do
Ak still can
in distance
?
dont mind my yapping @bright cloud
Wzm
Blame acti's greed
They really thought that people are going to play WZM for Alcatraz.
There's a chance that r9 might be a very solid weapon in BR
On true gama data it shows that it has the fastest ttk among all the rest shotguns
I can't check it rn because the app is acting weird once again
But when I checked 2 days ago the ttk was very good
It’s a good weapon, but the thing is you have to ADS with it. Hip fire isn’t effective at all.
And BR based on hip fire combat.
yeah
Can i get a mg42 build for big head bilzzard mode (not normal mp build)
Good point!!!
Might try it on FPP but it's so slow
It's painful playing FPP in codm
get the max fire rate and large mag
I’d go with:
Maxim suppressor
682 barrel
Red dot
13mm mag
Leather grip
So another user that will abuse meta
Why 13mm mag
welcome to the family son
I just don’t know which mag i should go
Since ariskia only affect non-head part multi, it is viable
But there are 10 opponents so 250rd is ok
13mm has peneration ability improved, but how can i make it to use when a mode only awards headshots
It has damage range increased so i will take consider of it
use that movement perk just in case you get gang banned lol
Why not? Better range and multis.
Big head bilizzard is a head focused mode
13mm don’t increase head multi
It only goes to arms
You only shoot at heads
Anyone here uses the Grip barrel on the AK47, how do you counter the negative 20% strafe speed and negative 35% ADS speed?
w stock or laser ?
Got any good loadouts to share? 
ak47 no stock, monolithic suppressor, owc ranger barrel, ext mag b and owc laser tactical i only used that for mp
never used grip barrel sorry
uh idk
Stock and laser das abt it
By not using grip barrel and using better options
Ranger barrel
Monolithic suppresor
No szock
Granulated grip tape
Extended mag b
No you are using laser. Which is worse cuz you are using no stock
:0
@spring vortex,
19 Server Rank
Anybody know good build for mac10
-SAS stock
-Taskforce Barrel
-STANAG drum
-AA laser
-Agey supp
Yeah I guess I shouldn't use that 
I dislike bv attachments on mac
Its already faster than necessary ur losing like 30 ammo per kill
Scar W
Scar lmg
Anyone has a type19 gunsmith to share? I have the mythic one
@short heron,
14 Server Rank
Polymer grip
Fast mag
Agile stock
Acuurate barrel
Accurate Suppresor
NI silencer?
Its the biggest suppresor in T19
Or you can go for tactical if you want to invrease mobility
dont use tac sup+accurate barrel its just worst NI suppressor for 2 attachments
Or grip bartel
eh, perhaps...?
grip barrel useless unless u bad ant controling recoil lol
Sorry thats what i meant lol
i see
true...
I keep forgetting
Anyone has a good ak117 build?
Im used on the irons of the T19
Skeleton stock
Integral suppresor
Granulated
Owc laser
40 round extended
no stock,gran,40mag,extended mip,mono
yeah t19 kinda grew on me like new grau for me
every ar a new grau lol
Its grau on steroids
Thanks 🙏
you know since m13 always keep getting buffed slowly at time at one point it would become new grau lol
Yeah exactly
No need to bsa boost after boof
fair
48
He said good build 
nah
this aint good
Yeah i wanna keep learning from you
@bright cloud go talk to him i aint doing this shit no more
as long u use it for point blank it will be good but in range not so much
What are you not doing anymore
for wat?
i mean shooting in center of chest
I didnt know 33 meters is considered point blank
maybe im wrong but its just feels weak when i use that just my opinion :0
Only reason then is randm recoil
the mobility itself feels like kn44 for me :/
@shadow hound #codm-gunsmith-builds message
you're aware that the 0 spread bug is fixed, right?
i am
i have no problems with bsa tho
good to know
i think oden's slow firerate makes it viable
it is
anyone has a good build for
a. Locus
b. M14
c. Ak
Locus:
Short barrel
Skeleton stock
Stippled tape
Stopping power mag
Light suppressor/fmj
Ak:
Mono suppressor
Ranger barrel
No stock
50 round mag
Gran tape
A.
YKM light barrel
Skeleton stock
Owc laser
Stippled grip
Light suppresor/Sleight of hand
C.
Owc ranger
Extend mag A
Granulated
No stock
Owc Laser/tactical supp
extended mag B
Its gonna reduce ads time lol
not too severe
Go for extend mag A instead
btw here is my tundra build
tac suppresor
26.5 hammer forged
7rnd mag
airborne elastic wrap
fmj
B
lmao
rip
Build for mg42
Is codmsimp a good codm username?
of course brotha
Build for type 19 .... Any suggestions ? Brothers and sisters
A no you dont want laser
C mag b is fine too
Acczrate barrel
Heavyweight suppresor
Agile stock
Polymer grip
Fast reload mah
Thanks bro 🙂
Ive found duplex to be suspiocusly good even though upper arm added. I think the spread pattern increases 2 tap consistency 2nd rsnge
@marble pawn these two builds spidey gave you and for m4
Short barrel
Monolithic suppresor
Granulated grip tape
50 round mag
Tactical laser
And one more thing how can I improve accuracy in hs 0405 ... Without using laser lights man ...... Most of the time ... I got hitmarks
Hipfire accuracy
1mw laser(it is an invisible laser so dont worry)
Choke
Extended barrel
Stippled grip
No stock
Ok I will go with this btw thnks
yeah duplex post buff should b fine
I havent done concrete tests but i think duplex in 2nd range probably increases 2 tap potential by 20%
This is not gunsmithing 🤣
are you sure
What they are saying idk really there no images there
It is im talking about imoietance of duplex on oden
Does the duplex on oden good ?@bright cloud
Gunsmithing can be expressed with words too
Yea it increases consistency of 2 tap by like 4% in first and 20% in 2nd range(rough estimates)
So on that analysis you got what kind of build you would make using that duplex round ? For flex build and aggressive one in snd mp ?
Really shows how ppl just paste build links or image attachments from youtubers without even looking
Icl I prefer Oden's base ammo 🗿
Yeah ddooo they even experiment anymore
All the same
Secret goated Oden loadout
Mhh hologram m4 oden now that's meta
Hate oden
I love oden now it got buffed a little making it useable as almost equivalent of drh ak47 and mow
better
Yo anyone got a good loadout for M4 Ranked on MP
boi wat do i dlt for that m4 odenn>
gp tp gunsmithing builds and take the hgest ratdone
ok
I forgot the m4 load out last season when the free legendary got out the m4 is really good at that time
M4 still good now
(I put launcher on it)
For respawn right ?
No
how do i put in a image
I prefer it for corner clear/health trade
#┃server-media-passes and select gunsmithpass, both
Hmm I never saw a dude use launcher m4 on snd before , it's just thumper most of time
What?
idfk
Short barrel
Monolithix suppresor
Granulated grip
Tactical laser
50 round mag
Thanks
Whats gp tp
go to
Ohhhhhg
how tf do u know everythinh
im soopid\\
I do
Nah its fine its my fault for not realising that
true nerd
Mhh I thought you already know me from my chat that I was more into snd gun one @remote silo 
can u tell me how tp getoden to m4?
I mean as a stat analyst/gunsmither it'd be a little stoopid for me to not know build for every gun and alt
Oh like model?
yes'
like is tht ur job?
Hobby more so
He is just have gun statistics fetish u know
You undownload all resources turn off auto donwload and keep oden undownloaded. After that download all guns you find base irons to be better than m4 irons
only the weapon one right?
In oden supremacy we trust
Ye
Yeah id still use duplex tho
Pharo taser:
Oden supremacists 
Ok what happend
any good loadouts for m4 with a holo
Hmm red dot is better w less obstruction view tho
Using base mag over duplex is like mcu thor using mjolnir over stormbreaker

Not really. Holo 2 ahs decreased aimshake
Btw I'm kinda wondering on optic scope adjustment , what it was called ? Viewsight distance something..... Is it have any effect at all ?
It increases distance of optic from the camera. It makes sight smaller and decreases aim shake
Oh I see now, damn I never used the feature 
With launcher also?
prob not
Damn right i am XD
Oden is top tier, especially with the mythic version
Br or mp?
And why mithic?
Oh like the mg?
Like all mythics
any good m4 builds with scope on it
@rich arch check Nightfalls oden build
Its in the gunsmithing chat
Build*
Gunsmithing build chat*
Aiight thanks
For the m4 use the recommended attachments tab
Mp
😍
or the launcher barrel
No please no…
Personaly, it was a good attachment
Preference tho
i needa fast ads tundra build
@tribal blade,
1 Server Rank
I got some builds for some ar’s and smg’s can some tell me wich ones are good and wich ones nahh
I'm more interested in what perks you use
You useless teammate ? Or you jack of all trades
What’s the best ak47 skin? I got that sick ass pink skin and want to use it
Build* not skin
Guys what's a good mg42 build for mp?
Mono
Ranger barrel
No stock
Extended mag
Gran
Thanks
B?
I am not sure if i have the good ones i can make some screens
How u mean?
does sight distance affect default sniper scopes
They dont even have that setting
Oh
Then iirc it makes zero difference
nop
has 0 effect on base scopes
actually kinda unfair
rip
Base lk irons really suck
u could prob swap gran for a sup
yeah it keeps zero recoil but rip sights
And lk ttk is atrocious for playing flex
integral suppressor:
i mean i prefer having a owc marksman and tac
its pretty good all around from my experience
they are decent to me
marksman is crazy
integrated supp
ricey : )
Marksman is pog😤
ricey told me to use marksman with no stock on lk
Hello guys, I wanted to ask you, are there any codes that are currently usable?
@harsh lark,
14 Server Rank
not my fault ok
im not sure
ricey also doesnt move
idts
so????
Thats a surprisingly fast build by ricey
Do you know where I can find them?
you get my point
I run marksman without stock attachment
yeah id expect steady stock too
why are you acting like lk has recoil
i dont use steady stock no more 🙂
its for passive flex
Irc it kills around 280ms where most flex kills below 250ms
good
because i feel like it
Maximum beam
but slow asf
not a massive difference considering it keeps amazing stability and ranges 
I use fmj on lk for spams too so no space
theres better guns for that
It is a massive difference just that lk has massive range advantage
Does it even compete with flex guns
The only issue of LK rn is that a lot of the meta guns kill too fast for it to reliably compete
LK has a TTK of 285ms when we have DR-H at 210ms, Oden at 145ms, HVK at 181ms, and T19 (Which has similar range performance as LK) at 240ms
Even Kilo is kinda being pushed out of the meta rn
Hvk is meta on everyone's hands except for mine. I can't use that gun unfortunately. 
Also it feels like that legendary drh poisoned thing, has 0 recoil
AK/EM2 users trying to explain why their gun is better than DR-H (They are objectively incorrect)
Probably because my aim isn't always therr 🗣️

The main issue with AK/EM2 is that they have a slower fire rate (You will feel it) but you get slower TTK in return
Oden gets a pass because you have that dumb TTK potential
And while yes, AK has better 3 tap consistency at mid range and EM2 has fast handling, it is not enough to justify
That's a fair point!!!
Maybe the ak could get some sort of recognition over the drh because of the ability to 2 tap headshot? 🤔
Very rare occurence
And HVK does it better
Thoughts on man o war (no thermite mag) 
Pretty bad ngl
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Slowest TTK out of all the 3 taps
And slowest fire rate out of all the 3 taps
Ok, maybe bad is a bit harsh
Invalidated is the better word
Alright so, if I get bored of the drh, oden and ak47 and I want to use something new that is going to be actually pretty competitive against the meta, and that is also 3 tap, what should I use? 🧐🤔
Ohh://
ASM10 branson
Perfect!!!!
If you can land the initial shots, you have 133ms TTK
That's even faster than oden what in the Tencent ...
But you cannot miss the first 2 shots
You think the HS0405 will ever get nerfed in BR? Thinking of buying the legendary just because of that one tap kill consistency. Good to grind ranked br on duos or solos with that
I have a curse, whatever skin I buy, it gets eventually nerfed
Lmao 🤣
Probably not
HS0 is actually not that busted in BR since you are losing the ability to take fights in between close and mid range
And you have to be accurate to 1 tap
Hmmm
Its just that the other pump shotty suck
Nice then!!
Btw, I did a ttk test on true game data and i checked all the shotguns. The R9 had the fastest ttk 👀
I saw someone on a parker video using it and he was doing pretty well with it
Has potential but very inconsistent
Ahh...

Asval looks pretty decent too in BR (after 9-10m)
Wondering if I should start using it
The TTK is nice but recoil is too much for those ranges
Ohhh I hadn't actually thought about that 
What ur lk build
Ranger barrel
Tac supp
No stock
Gran
50r mag

Hs0 being the only good option separates it from the tundra situation in mp
So it will likely remsin untouched
Good option in Br*
with rds or not?
with rds im using mono,rds,nostock/ykm light stock, mag,laser/gran
The spread go crazy
wym spread
shotgun right ? wouldnt it have spread ?
He doesn't run rds since he has skin
ah
I love the lk so much
i luv icr so much
lk24 da best
I love Grau and 117
why u love grua bru
grau and t19 da best
whewn t19 exist
Demolished @ocean narwhal oden
t19 best not grau
oden and kilo da best
fr
I play good with grau
lets be honest if its not for grau t19 wouldnt have exist to replace grau
So I like
cuz no recoil
Oden i understand but kilo?
What world is this
Kilo mid asf
kilo 141
kilo 141 not lol
Yes 141 is mid
Kilo bolt 141
Lol
u havent used it to clutch on snd rank ?
I'd rather use the same gun with more range
Krig 6
kilo 141 is peak flex ar last year
ye krig>
Yeah
"Last year"
And even then
Got benched in January
krig better but kilo still very good
That's understandable
Personal reasons is fine
Mythic kilo?
Worse than bk 57 and non mythic krig

tbh the only reason i use kilo rather than krig is just the iron sight i cant handle krig iron sight so i need to use rds


Rds krig still better tho
I can't stand non mythic kilo
then again im kinda used to fennec and m13 ring iron sight
Holo2 reduces so much aim shake
Krig is 1 percent slowed in mobility than kilo
Slightly slower ads time
But has 20 meters more range
why holo 2 do nothing on icr tho sad
And the first 2 comparisons are negligible due to small values
And pre aiming
hmm i never used holo only red dot
Tbh
Never use sights on m13,icr,bizon,as val
Already good irons and they have worse shake on rds or holo
fr
Rds normally the best
But on guns with higher shake
Holo2 >>>
i only used hvk30, t19, bizon,kilo141,m13 , grau, ffar,lk24 holger fennec, qq10 tho is these guns have high aim shake ?
asval w/o fmj and fmj one
Most do not even need sights tbh
Hvk can use rds
Val with fmj likes rds
Fennec likes rds
Rest don't need sights
When I left the cod I played a super rng game😔
Now I'm back
i tho hvk iron sight already decent
ye not needed
Unfortunate to see it be worst smg rn
Recoil so easy ud probably still do well with it
bruh last year i always used it to go against the lb switchblade players in snd
True for every non hbr A3 or pharo gun in this game


oh i love when they just raged and always go straight for me especially when im separated from rest of my team but of course..... i win somehow

What gun is good
wild
Can anyone give me a mg42 br build?
Optic of choice
Recoil booster
13mm anti material
Disable
682mm barrel
Mods: Vertical recoil, Precise, Long range
I got mythic no optic lol
Then you can use the 64M stock
Colossus sup
Rds
Extended mag or duplex
Combat stock
Op foregrip or short barrel or laser
Not really
400ms on standard passive build. I think marksman and strike or base stock lk is slower
Same fire rate more or less
Yeah, its not meant for aggro, but it works fine for flex because it is all around quite good
But ofc tac ranger build is best
mg42 BR build?
If the current meta wasn't so TTK heavy, LK would be a lot better
mainly for mid to close range
nah ak117 in br is already enough no ?
Yeah I dont mean itll beat an hvk in close range but ykwim, strong all around with no aim shake or recoil = good or at least works for flex
anti material kills ttk though
it reduces fire rate
Not a massive difference
do u have an mg42 br build
And you gain
Bullet speed (great for long range ttk and actually hitting shots)
Recoil
Damage range
Penetration and for br vehicle damage
I agree with sleep’s
let me guess u got beaten badly by mg42 in br ?
ok
no
hmm
Mg42 js the best gun in br and mp tn
im losing in br because my teammates get wiped and i have to 4v1 to res them

Ak117 is halfway good bc of aim assist. Otherwise its just strong
why use 682mm barrel over the others
its near the start of every round
so its not because of ak117
its just because im simply not good enough to handle a 4v1
idk why my teammates are always ass
i literally dont die in br matches
and if i do die we lose the whole round
Quite the opposite actually
Since it improves the multis
No reason to use over MG42
i know that @strong monolith
i just tease alwanoth since he just get mindblowed by ak117 before xD
682 helps with accuracy without hurting the mobility
ok
And with that you can actually have better mobility than ARs (For some reason)
Every time I use LK, I get torn a new one by DR-Hs and Odens
Half the oden players I see can’t aim 
i can tho
You have not seen me
Though one oden lb player I met literally never moved past headglithces… and hit every shot… I wanted to die
i dont have the ghillie suit skin so i use the nomad druid skin instead
just need to flick it faster and harder deeper too

i hope i dont
Its pretty comparable to sks really
Headshots with a semi auto arent exactly realistic anyways but uh
lol
Oden has
Slightly better ttk
Is actually automatic
Bigger mag
More mobility
Better sights
some ppl in game called me cheat for that too
But the recoil hits hard, no stomach 2 tap, worse 2nd range 2 tap as well
And can’t 2 tap in the third range or ever one tap head ofc
Crazy
prob new bie or.... they never used the gun
why does no one use the fr
Bc its mid or bad in every way besides bsa

still cant blame them i mean those 3 rush and i just 1 tap them luckily in quickscope motion
why does no one use hb3ra

hbra3
Bc kilo is slightly better, easier to use, and everyone worships it already
yeah the hitbox reg is weird sometimes
Me and meep use it tho
i feel like hitbox reg is differnet on weapons
Multipliers on it got buffed, it’s consistent mow
like sometimes a sniper is easier to hit than a argus with pinpoint accuracy
is there such thing as bullet hitbox size
Argus has decreased aim assist
ohhh
remember back when argus is best sniper lol
am i the only person who uses trophy system in br
i use it against people who frag me while im hiding
fr?
so ima just use fast recover on slots that use flak
i mean flak jacket perk
yeah
well it can still be useful but not so much as in the past season
The
oden is a nice sniper but its an assult rifle
Its a marksman
Basically sks 2.0 but worse imo
if we add the monthol supperesor and the marksman thingy and sniper scope it work
yeah
na45s cousin
j325 is a nice revolver to one shot zombies in classic zombie mode
i defeated the abomination with j325
mg42 vs chopper who will win
Sks 2.0 but its worse
Hol up whats that even mean 😭
Its recoil and multipliers and ranges are worse
Otherwise its superior
Obv mg42, chopper is mid
do i pair AR striker or fennec with a sniper swordfish on BR
No sniper scope
Does anyone have r9build
Choke
Extended build
Granulated grip
Tactival laser
Heavy smoothbore
Thanks
Fmj 🤨
fmj good
Ul
already using it
t19
pkm is like the only good one out of those 3
bet build?
Grau nah, pkm good for spamming, maddox is great for ar tec9 playstyle
Maddox is good 
literally when
Echo fire
Dawg what
It just got buffed to my recollection
Now its basically an ar tec9
From my experience
wot weapon u think good then?
mg
It's just annoying
Na45>
that buff was like
long time ago
strafe buff or sm
ah eyah
Yep
But still
still not good
Before that its recoil was buffed
Just pull down and you have good 2 burst range, insane ttk, huge mag, great ads speed and strafe speed
Not very comparable
Underrated* literally no one uses it
because its ass
Skill issue
Real
u know it would be used more if it was good
Ul:
honestly maddox echo is a worse fennec cx9 oden
Its a passive gun dawg
And its the best passive gun
Not even very slow when it comes to passive
too slow
Literally passive meta but ok 
not even
It is
Ul is not really flex
Slightly more flexible than some passive guns maybe but generally passive
ik
its not flex
you can't rush with a ul
you have to play in power positions
why though
Light suppressor is wild
you use ul for its insane 4 stk range
its just slow\
no real reason to use it over stuff like mg and oden
(it was a joke)
Oden has extreme recoil
And mg is a better everything, dont even mention it lol
i think the sig is just ass
The signature attachment is never worth ising
just build it for recoil
Use combat stock instead
In which case it gets like 500ms ads speed
does it matter if i nuke bsa on oden
nah
base bsa is like 8
oh thats good
~13 if you prefer using ingame scale
Base being 13 is good asf
idk its 19(15) in game
which is shit imo
but since im using duplex it doesnt matter ig
Ye
Maddoy ef aint bad either
Finally someone agrees 
Which is a lie
Oh?
oden bsa ingame is bugged iirc

final bsa 13 is good
initial isnt
alright so i just unlocked mg42
fire interval is 58ms and it has this attachment
what the fuck
and a magazine also improves fire interval

Oden has completely different bsa
It isnt 13 bsa really
yeah it isnt 13 in game but bugged apparantly
how it feels to get those mid teammates that split off and land at the other side of the map and expect you to save them
Does its bsa even matter or nah
Reduces it by 3ms
And a barrel reduces it by like 6
It does its just that in game value doesnt correspon to usual values
Oden has shotgun bsa thats why
Nah its that bad?
?
Oden’s bsa is that bad?
why are my teammates so fucking ass
the only reason im dying is because im fighting by myself
while the team is pushing 8 squads on the other side of the map
I mean base not duplex
Yeah they had to make entire gun's bsa work differently because of duplex
@rich arch
btw what attachment on cx9 do i remove if i want a red dot

It isnt bad its ultra good
do i remove the underbarrel operator foregrip
ok
Oh lmao
is the holographic sight actually that bad
I mean shotgun bsa as in way that its bsa works like shotgun not like an ar/smg/lmg
yeah wtf thats horrible
Oh alr then
Holo 2 is good



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