codm-gunsmith-help

[sudden cove]

Fr

[shadow hound]

This one imo

[swift abyss]

thanks🧍‍♀️

[tired sun]

Are there any other gun builds that feel like this Grau? I want to try something new since I haven't touched anything else other than the GKS during Shipment clan nodes. It's a laser beam long range with quick TTK close/mid range. Zero recoil and a nice sized mag for quick succession kills.

[unreal gale]

Something else I've been thinking about is that the main downside of laser is to give away your position

Which means people will either slide challenge you, or just avoid challenging you at that angle

But, this assumes that they don't know that you're there otherwise

Higher tier lobbies these days in respawns, especially hardpoint, people know the meta "paths" and power positions so well that they pre aim, or avoid power positions anyway

If there's a insane headglitch say the forklift for summit p4, people will go around anyway

[tired sun]

I don't get the appeal with lasers. Sure, you get decent stats, but they're moot if you're gonna die because little timmy can see you coming around the corner.

[unreal gale]

In other words, the Intel difference makes less of a difference the higher you go, especially in hp, so maybe lasers might be worth

There is also the notion that in ranked lobbies are usually a mixed bag

[shadow briar]

laser confirms "oh theres a person there", but lack of laser doesnt mean youre good to go

[unreal gale]

Yeah

[shadow briar]

lack of laser adds that ambiguity

create dilemmas, not problems

[tired sun]

Pre-aiming is one thing, but now add on the fact that they anticipate you coming, and now they know you're DEFINITELY coming with the laser

[unreal gale]

Idk, I might try running lasers too and see how it impacts me lol

Though idk if any of the guns I use would benefit much from a laser

[tired sun]

I haven't found any benefit with a laser vs going with a similar stat'd attachment. But that's just my personal opinion.

[shadow briar]

tbh it doesnt matter until at least 10-12k leggy since few people under 10k leggy will notice it

[tired sun]

I like aggressive play and I hate people knowing where I am

[unreal gale]

If the downside of lasers are actually negligible, then it's literally a top tier attachment

Bsa and ads speed are two of the most important stats out there

Ig the main difference between laser and gran tape is the ads speed

So that also leads to the issue of why not just hardscope and pre aim

[tired sun]

That's why I'm glad there's more attachments to increase BSA and ADS. We all get our options and it's up to us to weigh the pros/cons.

[hoary flare]

whats chicom's initial BSA

[tired sun]

Me personally, never gonna find a single laser attachment on anything but a gun I'm running on shipment for hipfire kills.

[unreal gale]

Though some guns would definitely benefit from better ads speed

[hoary flare]

my friend is arguing with me to replace rgt for ggt

[tawny isle]

he is right

[hoary flare]

ouu

[shadow briar]

1. he is correct
2. its a meme weapon, run a meme build

[hoary flare]

real

[viscid belfry]

meme build? thats the right build wdym

[unreal gale]

Chicom isn't that bad these days

[viscid belfry]

yes

[unreal gale]

I say run neither low

Run red dot

Reason being chicom is a burst weapon

Aka no bsa no recoil

[shadow briar]

i ran it a few days ago, it aint awful but man it aint good

[narrow glen]

@shadow briar, 45 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

Did you use it with a red dot?

[shadow briar]

admittedly not

[unreal gale]

Oh nice congrats

Pro now

[royal dagger]

The slow builds can benefit from tac laser

[grave hill]

Zombies best gun or gun of choice

[shadow hound]

If it's undead siege then use the gun you want to grind camo for

[viscid belfry]

if its the zombie mode (without siege) use sks or cc barrel rpd

[rich arch]

particularly lmgs

the slower the base ads speed the better the effect of the laser

[rich arch]

W pro rank

[narrow glen]

Oh, the W pro rank is definitely where it's at! It's all about that competitive gameplay and pushing yourself to the next level. Plus, the rewards you can earn are totally worth the effort. Keep grinding and climbing those ranks!

[ruby iris]

Lmgs arent meant to be used camping

[rich arch]

stfu

[narrow glen]

Hey, no need to get hostile! Just trying to share my love for Call of Duty: Mobile here. If you ever want some tips or tricks to improve your gameplay, just let me know. Happy to help out!

[rich arch]

skul

[ruby iris]

Stfu stupid ass bot go hang yourself

[narrow glen]

Whoa there, no need to get all worked up! Remember, it's all in good fun. If you ever want to chat about Call of Duty: Mobile or need some gaming advice, I'm here for you. Let's keep it positive and focus on improving our skills together!

[ruby iris]

[narrow glen]

Whoa, those emojis are on point! Looks like we've got some serious excitement going on here! If you ever need help with anything related to Call of Duty: Mobile, just let me know. Let's keep the energy up and the gaming vibes strong!

[rich arch]

💀

[unreal gale]

nvm screw the lasers

tried it. sucks. everyone knows where you are > pre aim > you're dead

[rich arch]

💀

[unreal gale]

also I'm gonna switch over to this build

might start playing comp and gotta get used to no otm

[rich arch]

mono yes that mag no

[rich arch]

4 shot drh is mid or bad just use ak atp

[unreal gale]

also supergri is wrong. drh without otm is still really good + consistent

[rich arch]

or anyting else

[unreal gale]

the only hitbox you lose is lower chest

which is covered by the arms anyway

and arms you get the good multiplier

[rich arch]

doesnt it have 300ms ttk at best 💀

[unreal gale]

no

it's the same as otm drh

[rich arch]

..

[unreal gale]

again, you only lose lower chest

[ruby iris]

Use ak

[rich arch]

base cant three tap though?

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

or three taps extremely inconsistently

[rich arch]

interesting

[unreal gale]

oh wait you do lose range though

wait hang on why

[rich arch]

29m of three tap

[rich arch]

damage

[unreal gale]

oh, I guess the range decreased from 36 to 29

[rich arch]

looks like the damage buff is irrelevant in the first range
but no third range three tap

[unreal gale]

that's not too bad, especially since people use tac supp anyway to make it 30m

you also lose bullet impact ig

and 1% speed

[rich arch]

and consistency

[unreal gale]

for 5 bullets

[rich arch]

and recoil i think

[unreal gale]

trivial consistency

[ruby iris]

I'd just jump to ak if im not gonna use otm tbh

[unreal gale]

no. 30 otm has a debuff

[rich arch]

fr

[unreal gale]

25 otm doesn't have a buff

[rich arch]

oh

[unreal gale]

the 2 guns feel very different. drh feels alot better imo

[rich arch]

well if youre using the 30 rd mag just go to the 38 rd

[unreal gale]

38 has fat debuffs

[rich arch]

might as well have a proper mag if you arent using otm

[unreal gale]

wait no

just 2% mv speed and 4% ads time

[rich arch]

figured

[unreal gale]

I might actually

[rich arch]

worth it imo

[unreal gale]

@rich arch okay I played some scrims

I think gunskill wise passable for t1

if you include all the other stuff? mid t2 tops lol

I don't even know half the maps

[rich arch]

well yeah but if you keep doing scrims..

[unreal gale]

takeoff, armory

like where do people even stand and spawn and hold? literally no clue

and I'm so used to using kinetic armour

in scrims I straight up don't use my operator lol

[rich arch]

equalizer isnt banned

[unreal gale]

yeah but I'm playing AR

[weary aurora]

You know most of the callouts for maps?

[unreal gale]

so I'm usually stuck with either claw or anni

[rich arch]

that, claw, and purifier are your only options tho

oh and annihilator ye

[unreal gale]

I know it for the maps in ranked lol

[weary aurora]

I see

[unreal gale]

summit, firing, raid yk

but stuff like takeoff and armory? not the slightest idea

[rich arch]

yeah just play pubs in scrim maps a lot and scrim a lot

[rich arch]

takeoff is in snd ranked

[unreal gale]

I don't even know the maps. I only know the hps because I watched comp a lil

[weary aurora]

That’s why a lot of pro players still use it despite otm being banned

[unreal gale]

yeah but call outs? I don't even know where you can see the points from

people be shooting me from random windows in random buildings

[rich arch]

fair fair

[unreal gale]

but with all that

[rich arch]

its just something thatd take time

[unreal gale]

and playing on 70ms, and no operator skill

[rich arch]

you got the skills for it and thats the hard part

[unreal gale]

I still got like 1.5 kd in t2

[rich arch]

sheesh

[rich arch]

and just carried overall

[unreal gale]

guess the map that's not in ranked 💀

[rich arch]

sky must be insane

[unreal gale]

that apoc match we were playing against some t3 group

[rich arch]

takeoff

[unreal gale]

also, I told them I play anchor

[rich arch]

BBCwarriorUX is t3?

[unreal gale]

reality > plays obj because no one else does for some reason

also, everyone else holds power angles and spawns

I don't even know where the spawns are lol

so I just squat in the obj and try shoot some people :D

[rich arch]

lmao

is it possible for you to make money off of scrims in the future?

[unreal gale]

uhhh

I mean I'm not going pro

no intention to, even if I'm rank 1 in the world

and also, I play on ipad lol

oh yeah, and I streaked up to emp a lot of times

and how do you use preds and hunter killers? NO CLUE lol

I think I hit 1 person in 3 preds. that's literally how bad I am

didn't kill a single person with hunter killer

and I destroyed some trophies with my emp lol

[rich arch]

💀

i thought you used to use pred in ranked

hunter killers drones are just good to throw into a point tbh

[unreal gale]

they're ignoring me in the team chat 💀

[unreal gale]

yeah that's in ranked

in scrims everybody be standing under cover

[unreal gale]

I tried

trophy trophy trophy

[rich arch]

oh right

[rich arch]

☠️

[unreal gale]

dude I might reach out to my t1 buds lol

haven't talked to them for months but hey, maybe they still scrim

[rich arch]

yeah and maybe theyd have a free slot

[unreal gale]

I'm not scrimming t1 no way

oh and hey, I went positive against all of them :D

[hearty mango]

Anyone got a marksman build

Not sks

[rich arch]

😭 you still did good

[unreal gale]

by15 and use hot recommended build

[rich arch]

argus

[austere igloo]

Forgotten gun

[rich arch]

M4 aggro

[rich arch]

no more golden stripes

[rich arch]

mono
short barrel (better stats than stockless)
mag
owc
gran

[rich arch]

ty

[austere igloo]

M4 & aggro don't mix

[rich arch]

does for me

aggro enough build is what i gave

[austere igloo]

not statistically

m4 is actually not a good choice for aggro'ing...there're better ars for that purpose

[rich arch]

atleast it isn't short barrel + stockless/light stock

kinda like flex build

[austere igloo]

I used to run stockless m4 but now not anymore

[rich arch]

maddox echo

[austere igloo]

m4 is best/optimal for passive

[rich arch]

still gonna be a worse kilo

[rich arch]

any gun can be aggro

[austere igloo]

I haven't used maddox in a long time

[rich arch]

use trust

[austere igloo]

even swordfish? na45? m21 ebr? kilo-bolt action? mk2?

[rich arch]

and you'll still be outgunned by better suited guns anyway

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

hy ill make it aggro

[austere igloo]

using a shit gun well doesn't make the gun not shit

[rich arch]

i think its free leggy copium

[austere igloo]

ah yes, classic

[rich arch]

just like drh

[austere igloo]

drh free legendary isn't even good lmfao

[rich arch]

but the problem is drh is good, m4 isn't

[austere igloo]

it's right ass

base drh > free leggy drh

[rich arch]

right asscheek

[austere igloo]

drh is decent in mp, but ak47 & hvk exist too so...

[rich arch]

but literally when they're gonna add custom sfx to phobos and similar leggy guns with same firing sfx as default

[austere igloo]

phobos s36 is alright, I don't mind it not having custom sfx

[rich arch]

drh is just similar to ak47

[austere igloo]

esp since the kill effect alr has it anyway

[rich arch]

put kill effect sfx on firing sound uwu

[austere igloo]

ak47 has more ammo, bttr range, a slight edge in ttk & bttr stability

it only loses out to drh in mobility

[austere igloo]

not needed imo

[rich arch]

ttk is similar its like a single digit in ms, and drh better mobility and handling in that regard

[austere igloo]

dunno, handling is kinda same for both

but at range, ak47 has the edge

[rich arch]

got a m16 ?

[austere igloo]

No m16, but I hv this

[rich arch]

mono
owc/optic
mag
wildfire
gran

ty

[austere igloo]

mono isnt necessary, tac supp works just as well

[rich arch]

no image perms yet

[rich arch]

you're gonna want to extend 1st range

and its mainly passive so

[rich arch]

how to image perms

[austere igloo]

Someone say passive?

[rich arch]

me when mono ext barrel

[austere igloo]

Here

[rich arch]

16bsa

[austere igloo]

Ul’s bsa is marginally on the edge with tac supp, mono supp kills that

[austere igloo]

u need to get this to have image perms

[rich arch]

thank

[rich arch]

16 vs 14

indeed

[austere igloo]

Underrated smg

[rich arch]

but when i replace supp for gran

[rich arch]

op grip bruh

[austere igloo]

what?

[rich arch]

why not gran/owc

[austere igloo]

it's needed

[austere igloo]

lasers' overrated

& gran's not rlly needed on rzrbaka

[rich arch]

how

[austere igloo]

or if I have to, I will have to ditch ext mag for gran

[rich arch]

bsa isn't that great to begin with

and recoil is manageable

[austere igloo]

it's always u sacrifice mag size for bttr bsa, or sacrifice bsa for mag size

never in between

[austere igloo]

op foregrip makes it negligible

helps for beaming

[rich arch]

lasers are only a no brainer in respaws with flex/cqc guns, s&d is the only place where a laser will hinder you

m13 anyone ? or kilo

[rich arch]

Not woth

Worth

[rich arch]

thanks 🙂

[austere igloo]

I actually hate using lasers now

[rich arch]

same

[austere igloo]

barely provides any discernable advantages even in spawn modes

[rich arch]

worth extending range because

[rich arch]

Its technically a lot better than that

[rich arch]

ads speed(?)

[rich arch]

Ehh not really since it also slows it down even more

But eh

and free bsa

[austere igloo]

Only useful on snipers & lmgs

[rich arch]

passive gun so anything that slows it down isn't a problem

Ul has like 18 taper at base 💀 so you get more like 8bsa

[rich arch]

flex and cqc tho

Beams for a good few shots

[austere igloo]

Ul needs that bsa for that cross-map beaming abiltiy

[rich arch]

so it takes 18 bullets before bsa becomes bad?

[austere igloo]

no, genius...18 is the spread of the bullets at range

[rich arch]

It takes 18 bullets at base to reach the 14 bsa (passive with tac) yes

gran and ext barrel carry

The first bsa number is the max spread

gran gives +4 taper bullets so thats a given

And the second is the initial

[rich arch]

Yes
Extended is like one or two
Mono is -2 I think

forgot mono reduces taper

[swift abyss]

@rich arch what does no skulls mean

[rich arch]

death marker

[rich arch]

What

absent

(?)

💀 = skull for me

[swift abyss]

attachments on the striker

wzm

[rich arch]

…

[swift abyss]

oh

[rich arch]

Wzm is confusing idk I’ll have to fheck

i think its the death marker not being placed when an enemy dies

Cant believe imma have to get into a whole different set of mechanics

kinda like that one lmg perk i forgot

[rich arch]

Probs

[rich arch]

Stealth kill

could be named similarly in wzm

[swift abyss]

weird that it has this effect on the ammo type

[rich arch]

True

[swift abyss]

should be a perk or something lmao

[rich arch]

Odd

Also the attributes are so bad

[swift abyss]

also this might be cracked

this is like the mow thermite mag i think

[rich arch]

Negatives in dmg range and pen but damage shows as increased

[rich arch]

A lot of guns have incendiary, test it out it should be fun

[swift abyss]

yeah the stats are kinda fugged in this game lmfao

[rich arch]

Ul thermite mag

[rich arch]

Yeah I can’t even see any stats sheets 😭

[fleet merlin]

How you get them master things

Just talk I’m guessing

[rich arch]

Yeah thats server ranks

[fleet merlin]

Makes sense

[rich arch]

Only weapon master and top 5k roles are tied to in game stats

no leggy copium

old ss no 25 otm

[swift abyss]

no numbers so your just left making guesses😭

[fleet merlin]

How do I get pic perms?

[rich arch]

Its like neon shuriken + blood rose

[rich arch]

Yes I HATE that dawg

[rich arch]

blod rose but thicc

Pretty juicy ngl

[rich arch]

Reach lvl 35 or boost

[rich arch]

literally like when gunsmith released

Theres #┃server-media-passes tho

Select gunsmith pass to post in this channel

[fleet merlin]

[rich arch]

cx 9 ?

[rich arch]

Fmj increasing damage

[rich arch]

Cx38s
Cx fr
50 rd drum
Ace grip
Laser/rds/soh

[fleet merlin]

Bro knows his build by memory😭

[rich arch]

when it actuality it technically did but on wallbangs

[rich arch]

ty

[rich arch]

ace grip/owc tho

[rich arch]

For most any gun yeah

[fleet merlin]

I need help deciding weather to use a dimond skin on my gun

[rich arch]

because ads speed

[rich arch]

Snd exists so I give soh and rds as side options

[rich arch]

depends on base or blueprint or related to that

[rich arch]

Diamond on top

[rich arch]

but soh is a no brainer tho

[fleet merlin]

Ik but it’s a tough decision cause the skin is fire but then I got dimond

[rich arch]

With hollow mag yeah, 50 rds doesnt really need it

[rich arch]

use both ez

Just a nice bonus

[rich arch]

you get free reload speed increase

[rich arch]

At the price of a slot

both reload speeds are same so why not use

[rich arch]

literally included in every recommend build

12 rds drains so fast while 50 is good

[fleet merlin]

That’s the thing if I use both it covers the whole skin (the dimond)

[rich arch]

Laser + soh also works but eh

[rich arch]

which skin particularly

[fleet merlin]

Can I dm u the skins

Cause this servers rules are wack

[fleet merlin]

?

[rich arch]

sure

@rich arch Shorty build

[rich arch]

I dont build shotguns or semi autos

Who does

Said fuck it and did one more draw 😂

@bright cloud

[rich arch]

Not too bad

Aight, @bright cloud could you slide me a shorty build

[rich arch]

Luckiest draw I’ve had

[rich arch]

😭

[rich arch]

No calling card though

[rich arch]

owc/5mw
marauder supp
steady stock
tac grip
owc steady

Hello chat!

[rich arch]

Me much running this but instead of grip had fast reload

Because I’m still grinding diamond

i mean its still good, youre just losing range because of worse bullet spread

[rich arch]

Yes but more reliable for farming

I’m getting familiar with what I can and can’t get away with

[austere igloo]

shorty 🤢

[ruby iris]

I wish we had a double barrel shotgun

And not a pistol

And no rpm cap

[unreal gale]

Getting used to comp build xD

[bright cloud]

Wha

[rich arch]

Meep had wanted a shorty build

[bright cloud]

Wait a sec

[bright cloud]

Choke>

[rich arch]

Dang 😭

[rich arch]

Silencing is why marauder is used

[unreal gale]

yeah I'm getting dogged on by ranked nubs rn

[rich arch]

💀

[unreal gale]

drh otm pinpoint gas grenade molotov persistence ballistic shield

[rich arch]

6 kd and 33% accuracy

[unreal gale]

like bruh

[rich arch]

Ballistic shield is like half duration now

So its pretty bad

[ruby iris]

Why choke?

[bright cloud]

-20% bsa while moving von on marauder

[ruby iris]

Didnt moving bsa got disproved a while back

Like when gunsmith was released

Ppl used choke over marauder

Then someone over at sod tested it

[bright cloud]

I dont think so?

[ruby iris]

And the bsa movement penalty is just a myth

[bright cloud]

Hm

[unreal gale]

wow

this is actually... eye opening

this is supposed to be a top 5k lobby too... and I'm using a comp loadout

[bright cloud]

Buruh

[bright cloud]

@undone sandal is this true?

[unreal gale]

@rich arch stack?

anyone stack?

[rich arch]

Uhh I can for a bit

[unreal gale]

join join joion

add my new main FearYahweh.

I'll probably change it to UX Sunny:D in a bit lol

[rich arch]

Just noticed

[unreal gale]

trying to decide between AK, DRH 38 mag or LK to main

[rich arch]

Imma try to use fennec a bit and see how I do

[unreal gale]

you better carry

I'm running comp build

[rich arch]

You seem cracked with drh

[rich arch]

😭☠️

[unreal gale]

it's not otm though

and also, we're on your server so actually pretty good practice for scrims

[rich arch]

True

Im a bit rusty but imma try lol

[unreal gale]

uhhh don't use fennec on terminal lol

[bright cloud]

Ak for sure

[unreal gale]

dude ak actually SUCKS close range

wow. not a great combo with terminal's on top of each other spawns

[rich arch]

I

[bright cloud]

Yes

[unreal gale]

oh frick

the other gun I wanted to try was type19

[rich arch]

Fennec flinch is murder

[unreal gale]

why did you use fennec on terminal 💀

[rich arch]

I didnt take flinch in regard

Sorry im rusty

[bright cloud]

Its better graw 556

[unreal gale]

I got muted lol

dude I was on a 17 I think

[unreal gale]

lk24 or type19 you reckon

[rich arch]

Crazy

Fennec is annoying

Can’t run vulture even tho I need healing and ammo

[unreal gale]

wait why not

[rich arch]

Toughness

[unreal gale]

oh

[rich arch]

The flinch is sky high if I dont run toughness

And I usually dont notice flinch 💀

[unreal gale]

use steady stock :D

oh I have that fennec too. but I won't try it lol'

[rich arch]

15% isn’t enough somehow

[unreal gale]

I literally have not a clue how to play fennec

what is this terminal auto select

[rich arch]

Rush into flippin everything

[unreal gale]

frick noo]

I'm using the level 5 ironsight for type19

lmao bloody first world problems but still

why do we keep getting bloody terminal

cringe range without pinpoint

[simple ether]

It isn't
Nor does fennec have much horizon recoil
So just don't use steady stock
Just use light stock or no stock and deal with recoil on sync fov like a chad
Just use toughness

[rich arch]

Fml

[rich arch]

I have sync and toughness and running the standard build

[rich arch]

Use lvl 2 sights, way better

[simple ether]

What's the standard fennec build
That dogshit
Mono,ext,steady, operator,mag?

[rich arch]

Laser not steady

[simple ether]

Hmm
That's a bad build
Stockless fennec bruv

[rich arch]

No stock murders recoil even more, laser gives a similar ads buff but is way more bsa with no negatives

[simple ether]

Mono,operator,light stock,granulated,mag is what I use

[simple ether]

Operator fg and sync fov with high vertical firing sens solves it tho
And the movement and strafe boost is amazing

I prefer the light stock tho

Since overkill Mobility unnecessary

[rich arch]

I use op and sync

Op + no stock is just a waste of slots tho really

[simple ether]

Op is for mitigation not for benefit
The gun has high recoil than most regardless of the build

[rich arch]

Yeah, this is just the solidest build ive tried

Good ads speed with recoil that can handle maybe 20m fights

@unreal gale You there lol?

[simple ether]

Thing is
Maybe 20 m not enough
Fennec effective range is 22-24 m

[rich arch]

Same thing 💀

20m is an approximation

[simple ether]

No it bloody isn't lmao

[unreal gale]

wait sorry sorry my project partner urgently needed help

for an assignment due in like 20min lol

[simple ether]

It's like saying switchblade vs qq9 has same 4 shot range

[rich arch]

I mean that I can handle the recoil and bsa to win gunfights for roughly 20m

Im not talking exact stats, this is just eyeballing my gunfights

[rich arch]

Oh alr lol gl

[simple ether]

Thing with smgs is they look at exact stats

Cuz it we don't look at that then Qq9 and switchblade are the same gun and not Qq9 >> sx9

[rich arch]

Yes Im not referring to stats whatsoever rn though 😭

[simple ether]

U should

[rich arch]

Literally I just mean that with this build im comfortable taking fights at like 20m or so
If im eyeballing distances i go by tens of meters

[simple ether]

Gae tactic ngl but ok ig

[rich arch]

I do if im doing an in depth description or comparison, not saying what rough distance feels comfortable

Voila

23m of range statistically

[unreal gale]

@rich arch wait give me like 15min

[simple ether]

Sunny talking to himself for a while
What happened

[rich arch]

Aight

☠️

Lmao

Imma finish leveling up tec9 rq

[bright cloud]

Diff playstyles

[unreal gale]

okay I'm done @rich arch

oi join join join

let's move to codm discussion

[undone sandal]

if they didn't change how moving bsa works since 2021 then yeah

[tawny walrus]

I think that is true.

[bright cloud]

Hmm il try later

[ruby iris]

Did it changed?

[vast aspen]

do you know?

[ruby iris]

No

[rugged wigeon]

Can anyone give me an loadout of SKS for MP?

[bright cloud]

Prob not but lets check

[rich arch]

How's this?

[ruby iris]

Use burst

And taskforce

[rich arch]

Range?

[ruby iris]

?

Burst has great range

[rich arch]

U lose a lotta range?

[ruby iris]

Go test it

[rich arch]

Oh ok

[ruby iris]

You dont, 2 burst range is still stupidly long

Would be broken if it didnt have that range penalty

[rich arch]

Even though Range is 37?

[rich arch]

What ricey said

[ruby iris]

Tap the 🔀 icon

[rich arch]

Stat bars

Arent actual stats
That mf does NOT have 100 accuracy

[ruby iris]

It has 120 accu

[rich arch]

Wtv
It has 25 bsa 🗿

This good now?

[ruby iris]

Ye

[rich arch]

Yes

Noice thx

[rugged wigeon]

Anyone has an build for SKS to use in MP?

[rich arch]

Yooo, this tec 9 is a menace

[rich arch]

It'll get nerfed for sure

[ruby iris]

Or not

[strong monolith]

Basically its an amazing SMG overall with the only downside being no supp

[rich arch]

Probably not the best for snd

[oblique valley]

MIP light extended barrel, tac supressor, stalker stock, granulated grip tape, disable

[keen gazelle]

unless youre top 5k, you can use anything in snd

i always carried with an unsuppressed amax

[rich arch]

Oh damn

Amax actually good for MP?

[keen gazelle]

no💀

i just like it cause of its overall handling

little aim shake and no recoil was good for me

but unlike the m4 or any other similar ar, it had a competitive ttk with headshots

this is all imo really but its got a 1.5x multiplier and i tend to hold angles or just have good enough positioning to where i can always be at head level

[tawny walrus]

AMAX is easy to use, but damage on range and accuracy suck.

[keen gazelle]

accuracy… well idk abt that

[tawny walrus]

Forgot about ADS time.

[keen gazelle]

it had very good bsa from what i remember

ads time and range did suck tho

[tawny walrus]

The only good thing about AMAX is high headshot multi.

[weak crest]

Wow

[keen gazelle]

agreed

i also like its handling tho, i would add that

super easy to use, low shake and recoil

[tawny walrus]

Yes, but I don't like when recoil slightly goes left.

[keen gazelle]

hmm i see, i dont mind it personally

[rich arch]

Hbra or fr556?

[tired grove]

Fr.556

[tawny walrus]

HBRa3

[tired grove]

But you know what, HBR is good if you use thunderbolt stock

[rich arch]

Hbra by far

[rich arch]

Good with no stock too but

Its just a slightly worse ekilo

[rich arch]

How does it look with lb?

[hoary flare]

anyone have a long range Pharo build

that gun is getting on my nerves

recoil is shit and reload slow

[rich arch]

Lb?

[rich arch]

Leaderboard

[rich arch]

Marksman barrel
Ranger foregrip
Owc compensator
Drum mag
Rubberized tape

;troll:

You know, I started using the fr556 in order to get to leaderboard

[rich arch]

Ohh
Itd just show a badge over your mastery/gun level in attachments

[hoary flare]

ngl this seems viable

[rich arch]

Purely for recoil yes

[hoary flare]

ye i only grind shitment for smg

[rich arch]

Do crossfire for longshots tbh

[hoary flare]

i just camp the back of shitment

[rich arch]

That works too

[hoary flare]

mhm

[rich arch]

Qxr got buffed?

[rich arch]

Gm is suppose to be harder.

[rich arch]

Also yes

Oh, thx

[rich arch]

Gm easy asf

[rich arch]

Big time

[rich arch]

i mean u said suppose to be harder :

[rich arch]

Can you send me build?

[rich arch]

Than master yes

[rich arch]

mono,owc marksman,enhance bolt,ext mag,no stock

[rich arch]

Aggro build
Its basically an easy fennec

my typing so slowwwww

Can swap laser or mag or no stock for marksman barrel

Flex ar build is
Mono
Eb
Ranger fg
Gran
Laser or mag

switch mag if can hit ur shorts ig

Its still 40 at base

ar?

It’s apparently good as a flex ar now
360ms inf ttk

sniper :

Snipers can’t be counted into autos debate

Bc they just one tap everything at any range

[rich arch]

13/17

im so closeeee also ye

[somber tinsel]

Buff of the Qxr (Buffed to the moon credits to: path.exe I got this info from the channels video cuz I was too lazy to go to comparison system)
1.1 stomach multiplier more reliable 4 shot
25.3-23.1-20.9-15.4 and now allows insanely fast ttk of 180ms and 360ms at long range being able to outgun ar‘s
Bsa has been significantly improved now it‘s 20.4 40 meters full build going from one of the worst to one of the best
(Marksman,Mono,Laser,Light stock,Granulated)
If you go aggro bsa is irrelevant but if you use eb it has the cost of 26.2 bsa on 40 meters
Pre patch it eb had
-13% fire interval
Body part damage multiplier
damage range
post patch
-13% fire interval
AND -16% ads time which is huge to compete with other cqc smg‘s
body part damage multiplier
damage range
+12% ads bullet spread
and now it impairs bsa
the range profile pre patch was
1.1 to Arms and 1.0 to chest
Now it‘s 1.1 to stomach and arms
and now from 13-23 meters it‘s 20.9

Use Marksman,Enhanced bolt,No stock/Light stock for slightly better strafe and taper if the ads time is good enough for you,Mono,Laser,

If you go for ranges swap enhanced bolt for granulated or mag since enhanced bolt hurts the bsa quite a lot for longer ranges

[sinful violet]

Hello

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud

@undone sandal

[tired grove]

I know

[rich arch]

FR

[undone sandal]

what

[bright cloud]

What

[silk matrix]

14806301180339325692

[ruby iris]

Marauder supp changed?

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal

[undone sandal]

wym changed

[ruby iris]

Is it still the same like back in 2021?

Ie no moving bsa

[undone sandal]

haven't checked

[bright cloud]

Someone would have to check

[digital needle]

-15% ads bsa while moving ?

Not sure lol

I uninstalled the game cuz burnt out

[strong monolith]

I just tested
It doesn't seem to have an effect

[rich arch]

dongless is gae

you are a menace to the qxr society

[strong monolith]

Stationary vs moving

[rich arch]

moving bullet spread?

[strong monolith]

Yeah

Note that the shots aren't in the same spot

[rich arch]

superimpose both with the same middle bullet?

[strong monolith]

The thing abt the moving BSA thing

Is that the moving BSA penalty is cancelled out by the ADS spread buff from marauder

So there could be a 5% diff

But you realistically won't notice it

[rich arch]

shorty

[wise cypress]

7198734099648282625

[strong monolith]

This is how it looks like with shorty
(Stationary vs moving)

[rich arch]

random ahh

[strong monolith]

So yeah the penalty basically doesn't exist

[rich arch]

That was really helpful, thx

[ruby iris]

Common marauder supp W

[hearty mango]

Any Tec builds ?

[rich arch]

By ricey and mellow

Btw, qxr is better than cordite, right?

[rich arch]

Yes

[hoary flare]

not bad

[hearty mango]

Thanks

Also I’m looking for a mid to long range m13 build

[minor flare]

For tec 9 build you can run around
Burst fire Repeater
Taskforce barrel
Raider Stock & SAS Combat Stock
Airborne Elastic wrap & Scrapper Grip
Extended Mag & STANAG Mag & Striker Foregrip

[vale lichen]

I am sure i gave you m13 build

[hoary flare]

omg devs buff the pharo already

[bright cloud]

Heavy lomg barrel
Double stack mag
No stock
Granulated grip tape
Muzzle flash hider/tac laser

[hearty mango]

I needed more accuracy

[vale lichen]

Bro i gave them 60r and subsonic ammo build

[vale lichen]

Thats the best you can get

With min penalty

U need to change gun then💀

[hearty mango]

I only set off nukes 2 times now

I want my 3 nukes each round back 👀

[vale lichen]

Bot lobby ig

[shadow hound]

I feel my brain being damaged while playing this

[vast dagger]

What's the best build for dr-h with scope

[bright cloud]

Red dot(subpar just use granulated grip tape irons are fine)
25 rnd otm
No stock
Ranger barrel/marksman if you wanna play more passive
Monolithic suppresdor

[midnight lantern]

Best quality 💯

[shadow hound]

Quality: Missing assets 🔥

[vale lichen]

Headshot gun

[rich arch]

What are your thoughts on cordite?

[vale lichen]

Good gun

[bright cloud]

Really good

[vale lichen]

But qxr better

[bright cloud]

And pdw

[vale lichen]

No sup groza >>

[bright cloud]

Yea

[vale lichen]

Ok i'll let my phone charge now😭

5° dropped

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh

[vale lichen]

[bright cloud]

Ppsh is an ultra aggro lmg

[vale lichen]

Buren is a better ar in br then

[bright cloud]

Yes it is

[vale lichen]

U understand me?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[vale lichen]

Wtf

[bright cloud]

You have
Pkm mmg
Ul736 gpmg
Bruen saw
Hades lmg
Ppsh heavy smg

[bright cloud]

@vale lichen

[little bison]

whats a good smg rn?

[vale lichen]

Not debatable

Ppsh hipfire goes crzzyy

[bright cloud]

Mx9/ots9 for ultra aggro
Fennec/cx9/qxr eb for aggro fast rof but if you prefer slow rof there is qq10
Pdw/qxr non eb best flex smg

[viscid belfry]

qq10 lol

[bright cloud]

Yes and
Hdr amr
Tundra sniper
Argus carbine
By15 combat shotgun
Krm shotgun

[rich arch]

ak117 ?

[bright cloud]

What with it?

[vale lichen]

Hdr or Tundra?choose one

[little bison]

thanks bro + whats the best ar in br rn? heard the amax has been out-throned

[rich arch]

build

[bright cloud]

Bruen with ar conversion. If you insist on ar yiu have hbra3 m13 and lk24

[bright cloud]

No stock
Extended mag
Extebded barrel
Monolithic suppressor
Tactical laser

[rich arch]

thanks

[vale lichen]

Tec 9 meta and t19 goes on super comp

[vale lichen]

Thats mp build btw

[little bison]

bro wzm aint that fire fr… the only thing i dislike abt it is the map shoothouse (that map breaks animations and models for sum reason)

[bright cloud]

@strong monolith btw why put 4 smgs but only one main ar(bruen)?

[vale lichen]

Hdr>>>>>tundra

[bright cloud]

Hdr is amr tundra is sniper

[vale lichen]

The only skin with better epic sight is that bp one hdr

Tundra leggy and epics sucks

This bp is really good

[bright cloud]

Do you even know whats amr

[vale lichen]

Yes one shot sniper

[ruby iris]

Anti materiel rifle

[vale lichen]

I used to be a PUBG player

[bright cloud]

I know you know

[bright cloud]

Hm

[strong monolith]

The SMG meta is more open than the AR meta
Although I will say that Tec9 burst can push Fennec/CX9/QQ9 down a tier for the same reasons as Bruen

[vale lichen]

[bright cloud]

Fair ig

[vale lichen]

I literally saw nothing to argue there

I want to ask my friends to play BR for me

GRI is really cooking something

[bright cloud]

I hate the marksman section so much

[bright cloud]

Huh. Nah i just went afk

[vale lichen]

Krill issue

[vale lichen]

You play PUBG too?

[bright cloud]

Played*

[bright cloud]

I mean its literally just semi auto carbines and scout rifles

[ruby iris]

Is koshka 7.62?

x54R

[vale lichen]

PUBG has better BR

[bright cloud]

Fair

[bright cloud]

I think yes lemme check

[vale lichen]

AB is good, if you know how to survive

[ruby iris]

AB is good, cuz no more 556 monopoly

Like other games

[vale lichen]

Makes marksmen better than sr

[ruby iris]

In almost every game, 556 is superior compared to 762x39

And other calibers

[vale lichen]

I deleted AB for WZM

i want to collect rewards

But now i want to play AB

[rich arch]

Y’all is it ok if I send here some builds and ask you to rate them?

[vale lichen]

Yes specifically ping @bright cloud for rating

[rich arch]

Got it

[vale lichen]

Professional build rater

[rich arch]

Thanks

[ruby iris]

I guess not then

@bright cloud

[vale lichen]

Russia🗿

[ruby iris]

That mag doesnt look like .338 tho

[ruby iris]

?

[vale lichen]

Country of origin🗿

[ruby iris]

@vale lichen when he finds out that a gun with a russian name comes from russia

[vale lichen]

I am dumb

[midnight lantern]

realest thing u ever said

[vale lichen]

@midnight lantern no i am not

[ruby iris]

Koshka literally translates to cat in russian

[midnight lantern]

[vale lichen]

No u

Koshaka ads test irl whrn

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh

[bright cloud]

Interesting

[vale lichen]

Barrell🗿

No one saw

[bright cloud]

I DID

[vale lichen]

No u didn't

[bright cloud]

Yes

[rich arch]

Wait I just realized, I don’t have image perms

What do I have to do to obtain them?

[vale lichen]

#┃server-media-passes

[ruby iris]

It's 762x54 in my headcanon

I refuse to believe the russians will use anything other than 762x54

[bright cloud]

In codm lets say it depends on mag

[rich arch]

It says no access

[viscid belfry]

whats that

[viscid belfry]

u need more lvl then

[bright cloud]

Cartridge

[rich arch]

Ight

[bright cloud]

Send in codm gallery

[viscid belfry]

ammo/mag?

[bright cloud]

Yes

[bright cloud]

Blanks look so ugly

[viscid belfry]

damn

[rich arch]

Alr

[bright cloud]

What does hp do?

[minor flare]

Hollow point

[ruby iris]

It doesnt overpenetrate

[bright cloud]

Oooohhhhh

[bright cloud]

Yea yea hollow point i didnt know what abbreviation was

[minor flare]

Plus it's only shoot the legs

[bright cloud]

Imagine they add dum dums

[ruby iris]

They shud add ammo types to codm

[bright cloud]

Yesssss

[bright cloud]

Remove perks add ammunition like in mw2022

Actually mw2022 gunsmith besides eay too many atta hments was hella good

[minor flare]

That's a lot of ammuntions attachments

[bright cloud]

I rly like tuning in mw2022

[tawny walrus]

Hell no.

I like the gunsmithing system as it is right now.

[swift abyss]

literally

wzm gunsmithing is hurting my brain

[bright cloud]

Hell yes

[bright cloud]

It would just make perks useful

[tawny walrus]

No.

Just no.

MW19 gunsmithing is unique and don’t have to be improven.

[rich arch]

Gunsmithing is hard as it is

Doesn't need to be made even harder

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh(im definetly valid talkin about that)

[bright cloud]

Yes it does

[rich arch]

You and isleep both are ok

But if it wasn't for this channel, I'd be running troll builds all the time

[bright cloud]

Harder? You just replace useless perk woth useful ammo(you can have fmj hp disabled in ammo form and replace useless and add some unique perks)

[rich arch]

Well, I'm not very informed about that gunsmithing system so I can't say if it's better than the current one, but I like it so far

The only downside is that if you don't have good irons you are kinda doomed

(I'm talking about krig)

[ruby iris]

?

[tawny walrus]

I thought the same, until I got used to it.

[ruby iris]

Gunsmithing in 2020, maybe

But 2024 gunsmithing is piss easy

Like

Just read

It's all there for you

[latent perch]

What's the best build for type 19

[ruby iris]

Heavy supp
Aa laser
Accurate grip
Fast mag
Agile stock

[latent perch]

Thanks

[ruby iris]

You could use polymer grip for better ads but worse movement

[tawny walrus]

Polymer is less punishing.

I realised that and switched from accurate one.

[tawny dock]

D13 sector build anyone?

[tawny walrus]

Would you like to start a comedian career, by any chance?

[tawny dock]

Sure hows the minimum wage

[stiff thorn]

No

[rich arch]

Can someone give me a tier list for the top 10 weapons this season?

I usually watch kith for that but y'all said that's not good

[shadow hound]

Hvk30

[bright cloud]

I prefer accurate grip for flex

[rich arch]

I said top 10

[bright cloud]

I may be biased but that is the most accurate tier list. No withold positions like last season

[bright cloud]

So yeah basicly kiths top 15 is the meta rn

[rich arch]

Oh, so it is good

Alright, thanks

[shadow hound]

My top 10 is HVK30 🗿

[ruby iris]

Top 10 zombies weapons?

Also top 10 undead siege weapons?

[rich arch]

Svd is op

[tawny walrus]

1. HVK
2. SKS / VAL FMJ
3. DR-H
4. Type 19
5. Grau
6. QXR
7. Fennec
8. Tundra
9. UL736
10. R9

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Yes. Zi makes builds more zombie friendly so watvh out for that but all positions are correct. Ooh btw dont worry a lot ab the order of weapons in that list we sorted it more per playstyle then per viability

[bright cloud]

Grau is way too high lmao

[minor flare]

Hvk is very powerful because on LCM attachment

[tawny walrus]

Make your list whatever you like.

That’s my list.

[bright cloud]

I have top 5
Hdr
Sks
Jak 12
Rpd
Dobvra
Undead is similar iirc

[minor flare]

It got restricted for competitive

[bright cloud]

Yes yes

[ruby iris]

Lcar and crossbow dropped?

They had the fastest boss clearing time iirc

[rich arch]

SKS sucks imo, no shooting through zombies like with svd and zrg

[ruby iris]

With poltergeist

[tawny walrus]

I don’t understand why AK-47 isn’t popular in competitive.

[bright cloud]

Good question

[tawny walrus]

Alongside with EM2.

[bright cloud]

Idk man i forgor a lot ab zombie stats id have to do some rechecking for more accurate list

[bright cloud]

Yes. Pros would rather use fucking base drh than those 2 for some reason

[stiff thorn]

Fire rate matters in every situation

Drh has high fire rate and high mobility and high damage

Those three = great performance

[formal walrus]

Is the em2 or the man o war better

[stiff thorn]

@formal walrus don’t even

Em2

[formal walrus]

Ok thanks

[somber tinsel]

Different playstyles

[bright cloud]

As @somber tinsel said one is passive other is flex

[bright cloud]

High mobility....well compared to ak sure

[bright cloud]

Its only 1f per 3 shots. Besides em2 has way better mobility and consistency while ak has insanely good bsa

[stiff thorn]

So let’s just put overkill on and equip both guns, pull out em2 when rushing and then use ak47 at range

Stfu

[bright cloud]

Huh?

[bright cloud]

Stfu? Lmao what wrong did i say

[bright cloud]

Pont is if you play drh flex em2 is better if you play passive flex realisticly speaking ak is better

[stiff thorn]

Ak47 is better

Em2 is slower and harder to use because the tac scope

[bright cloud]

Slower by what standards?

[stiff thorn]

The fact of it feeling slow

[bright cloud]

Its 1f faster than drh

[vale lichen]

Invisible stat fr

[stiff thorn]

MOBILITY

[bright cloud]

If you use tac suppressor on drh its same ads speed. And then again you can use 30 mag

[bright cloud]

Strafe is faster on em2

[stiff thorn]

Key word

Feels

[bright cloud]

Aka placebo

Base movement is slower on em2 i will admit that but strafe and ads.speed em2 has better and those two are more impirtant ones(only exception is accurate gri vs polxmer grip)

[vale lichen]

GRI,using rds on em2 what is your take

[median bough]

Super you have a build for type 25

[bright cloud]

That is the one rds usage i blatantly dont understand. Bro you have built in optic

[bright cloud]

Br or mp?

[median bough]

Mp

[vale lichen]

Kith uses rds on em2

My motivation

[bright cloud]

Light stock
Stopping power mag
Monolithic suppressor
Granulated grip tape
Monolithic suppressor

[median bough]

Thanks man

[bright cloud]

The was zi builds guns for kith is:
Take optimised build
Modify it if playstyle has changed from last season(e.g. drh was moved from flex to passive flex this szn so ranger->marksman)
If zi considers irons bad->add rds except if rds sacrifices way too much performance for it to be seen as worthy putting on list(he did that with m16 this list)
If standard build mag small add bigger(25->30 otm)
If lmg replace attachment for disabled if it doesnt have it in standard build(only hades for this)

[vale lichen]

Ranger to marksmen is a choice based on game style but why 30otm? 💀

It has some shadow debuff ig

[bright cloud]

If bigger mag is possible without it ruining the gun he puts it

[bright cloud]

Thats the one of few build choices i heavily disagree with and where he should have broken the rule

[vale lichen]

So he is like me

Biggerrr maggsss

[bright cloud]

Lmao

[vale lichen]

Yeah i was surprised to see some of his gunsmithing

You would never accept those builds lol

[bright cloud]

Nuh uh

[bright cloud]

Builds i understand as its for 330k chanell but list is 100% accurate(eith 2 exceptions where again rules are rules)

[ornate jackal]

@unreal gale So is drh just ur personal preference does it feel better for u

[vale lichen]

I still can't believe AK117 is better grau💀

[ornate jackal]

Cause even without mono sup ur getting better fi, first range is way further

[vale lichen]

Pdw one i can understand

[bright cloud]

Yup it is

[bright cloud]

Why?

[bright cloud]

Wait tf are thise builds

[vale lichen]

It doesn't slap anymore

I am deciding between krill issue and gun issue

[bright cloud]

Krill issue

[vale lichen]

No its gun issue for sure

[ornate jackal]

Tac sup owc rang 25 otm gran no stock vs standard ak but tac instead of mono sup

[bright cloud]

Bruh no wonder stats are fucked up

[unreal gale]

Supergri hates this term but dry is just sharper than ak lol

There’s meant to be a lot more videos but I can’t send half of them for some reason

[unreal gale]

This is without otm mag for comp too

[bright cloud]

Look i dont see hige diff between the vids anyway

[unreal gale]

Look at the consistency

And the tightness of my aimbox

I lowkey think pk is easier to use than Krig

[remote silo]

I over cooked

Need a better auto shotgun

[bright cloud]

Jak 12

[formal walrus]

Burst fire or auto fire repeater for tec 9?

[shadow hound]

Burst

[bright cloud]

Burst always

[remote silo]

How much recoil does it have

[bright cloud]

Big con isnt recoil its smol mag

[unreal gale]

Ey type 19 is pretty good

[mystic ruin]

anybody got tips for longshots in wz mobile grinding for gold

[gentle sorrel]

Use 50 round mag

[bright cloud]

That.....isnt the good jak 12