codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

Yeah?

Uhh

[bright cloud]

Im doing utility tier list(lethal and tacticwl)

[rich arch]

Thats odd, everything I do is through apple so idrk much 💀

[severe geyser]

ye cuz like everything supports apple

but i cant see anything for data for the redmagic

ive been waiting 15 minutes for redmagic support

[rich arch]

Ask google

[severe geyser]

already did

[rich arch]

Thats the problem with a lot of companies, slow ahh wait times

[severe geyser]

apple is perfect

today i contactsd them

and it was so simple

screenshare, not when my passwords there etc

[bright cloud]

And was thinking of doing this kind of ranking
Single target lethal(frag contact thomahawk)
Aoe lethal(cluster semtex and molotov)
Corridor blocking/crowd control(thermite, trip mine, c4)?

[rich arch]

It is nice
Though I lost my apple id email login bc trash server so I can’t contact them

[rich arch]

Hmmm

Contact > frag

[severe geyser]

u can call them

[rich arch]

Due to it being instant, can’t count the number of times ive died to them

[severe geyser]

perfect steps like im a grandpa or something

[rich arch]

My dads always too busy

[ornate jackal]

I did horrible with it ima give it another try cause my build was wacky

[severe geyser]

cant u call them?

i bet ur way older then me but they helped me completly

[ornate jackal]

Nope

[severe geyser]

byfar the best support

[rich arch]

Molotov > what is semtex > cluster bc its trash
Trip mine > c4 (if used properly) > thermite

[rich arch]

Im 16 💀

[severe geyser]

thats what i mean

[rich arch]

Frag lets you see the timer on it or else you have to wait multiple seconds to throw it in which case why not use contact nade

[severe geyser]

its not hard

[ornate jackal]

Trip sensors bad cause it expires

[severe geyser]

well atleast apple dutch is perfect

[rich arch]

I dont expect them to respect a minor tbh, and I am bad at calls

Very very bad

[severe geyser]

i dont know how to talk either but they waited for me to explain

[rich arch]

I said trip mine
Sensor only really good in snd

[rich arch]

[severe geyser]

he also saw my note about what i should say

emotional moment

okay theg still havent respond

im sending another email

[rich arch]

😭

[severe geyser]

nah its been almost 20 minutes when they responded in 3 minutes the first time

he literally asked me everything what ive said

[rich arch]

💀

[twilit wolf]

Bro they need to add skill based matchmaking I get quened with fucking bumbasses who have stormtrooper aim

[narrow glen]

@twilit wolf, 9 Server Rank

[severe geyser]

im chatting them

omg their typing

bro “be more specific” bro what do u want me to say

bro they sended me some codes now

no grammar, very short text

[bright cloud]

Semtex is sticky grenade and i dont need help on ranking but what you think ab the classifications themselves

[severe geyser]

very good support

[ruby iris]

Im reverting back to that lk mf

[bright cloud]

I know vers well what ima do with utilities themselves

[twilit wolf]

Semtex is in CODM now?

[bright cloud]

It always was lmao

[twilit wolf]

I thought it was only in MW

[bright cloud]

Just called diff

[twilit wolf]

Oh yeah Thermite

[ornate jackal]

Wdym? Like “oh yeah trip sensors a contact”?

[bright cloud]

No sticky grenade

[bright cloud]

What? I dont undrestand wdym

[twilit wolf]

Its closer to contact

[ornate jackal]

Define classification

[twilit wolf]

Contact Gernade is objectivley the best

[bright cloud]

Aoe is basicly something that soecialises in hurting as many enemies as possible(imagine these being thrown in hill). Single target is used mostly to kill an enemy close to you or at the other parr of the map where sour gun cant reach him but a utility can. Cc is just blocking off chokepoints. Trip mine in good spots can easily kill a player, thermite can block an entrance to a building for a short period of time for multiple players and c4 cam be used alongside soumd cues if you are close to the designated chokepoint

[rich arch]

Oh
Gotcha

You should include trip sensor for corridors

[severe geyser]

its just a pure gaming phone he said

[narrow glen]

@severe geyser, 9 Server Rank

[severe geyser]

nothing related with social life

[fading harness]

Best sks?

[severe geyser]

the sks

[rich arch]

💀

[severe geyser]

fr “only for gaming”

[rich arch]

So bro is useless

[fading harness]

I meant build lol

[severe geyser]

basically yes

[rich arch]

Not mine but its good

(I can’t build dmrs ok)

[rich arch]

💀💀💀

[ruby iris]

Fun

[ruby iris]

Eww

[severe geyser]

should i do nothing phone 2? ive not seen anything abt it

bro it says its memory is 512

here it says 12 alr

[fading harness]

Thx mate

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Its pretty good

[rich arch]

What

[severe geyser]

it says not a high fps gaming phone

[ruby iris]

Goofy ass camo

[rich arch]

How is bro moving so fast with it

[severe geyser]

real?

[severe geyser]

it says buying once is 0,00 for a phone

[rich arch]

Again not my build

Mine would have damascus

[severe geyser]

for like everything

[rich arch]

Uhhh

So free?

[ruby iris]

Speed hack
Aimbot
X ray

[rich arch]

Oh… 💀💀💀 report

[ruby iris]

EWW

[rich arch]

Shushh

[ruby iris]

Doesnt do anything

[severe geyser]

maybe

[rich arch]

My friend has gotten someone banned from a report

[bright cloud]

Seperated tactical and granulated instead of stock

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Its better than nothing
Also funny bc I’ve encountered mo hackers before

[ruby iris]

In vng you need to report to the website

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

And takes a week to ban someone

[rich arch]

💀

[bright cloud]

Where tf did that seperated tactical and come from

[ruby iris]

By that time the dmg is already done

And they can just make another acc

[rich arch]

Lmao

I figured tac instead of stock but thats all I know

[rich arch]

True

[vale lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-17783181506241965318

Wtf did i just watch?

kindly click the gif link

[rich arch]

💀

[vale lichen]

Sks doesn't need any foregrip

Tac, mip ext light, mip staker are must

Others attachments are flexible

[rich arch]

Tac decreases flinch

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch whats ur uid again

[vale lichen]

I can't compare now but sks doesn't need tac grip

[bright cloud]

Granulated instead of stock

Use granulated instesd of stock

[ruby iris]

Why

[bright cloud]

Flinch

[ruby iris]

Stock also helps with flinch

[bright cloud]

Reccomended sks build is for maximising flinch

[ruby iris]

I am maximizing flinch

[bright cloud]

Yeah but stock has less strafe no?

[ruby iris]

Its the same as gran

[rich arch]

True

[rich arch]

6850921851305590785

[bright cloud]

Wow rly

Dont use sks often so didnt know that

[rich arch]

Hehe funni number

[bright cloud]

Anyway yeah then steady stock increases szeady aim by another 2 seconds

[ruby iris]

Stock vs gran

[bright cloud]

Bro why wpuld thes do that

[rich arch]

LMAO

[ruby iris]

Same cons, but stalker also gives sway and breath hold

[bright cloud]

Use gran plus steady then

Cuz gran>tac fg

[rich arch]

Probs true

[ruby iris]

I am

[bright cloud]

2s and idk about crosshair accuracy woukd have to ask yujji

[rich arch]

Again my dmr knowledge is 🗑️ so I yoinked a build

[ruby iris]

[bright cloud]

Im saying to mellow

[viscid belfry]

ok ill send req in few min

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

u on sm?

[rich arch]

Im on rn

[bright cloud]

Revoil with tac fg and withoit is 1 point diff lmfao

[rich arch]

Me trying to make a good build:
(It actually is good trust me)

[viscid belfry]

it is

but maybe steady stock would helps

[rich arch]

Rip speed

[viscid belfry]

if u want speed get a knife

[rich arch]

Thats fine for passive but atp id swap it for extended barrel

[rich arch]

Ads speed
Strafe speed

[viscid belfry]

eh

brb

[rich arch]

I am not a passive player

[ruby iris]

Sks if it was good:

[rich arch]

Real

[bright cloud]

Yesss

Not zhis modernised shit

[rich arch]

Passive build has <15 bsa which is obviously a beam

Aggro/flex is 18 which is fine for its three tap range

[vale lichen]

Should i ruin it?

[rich arch]

Bet gimme an even 70

[vale lichen]

Me studying now

[rich arch]

💀

[cerulean birch]

Hi

[rich arch]

I passed 69 anyway ☹️

[crimson arch]

hello chatters

[narrow glen]

@crimson arch, 22 Server Rank

[rich arch]

💀

[native canopy]

Add me aswell

[rich arch]

Alr

Uhh send your id I’ll add you next round

[native canopy]

I meant visitors

I was gonna visit your profile

6863513514267901953

Here you go

Can’t find you anyways

[twilit wolf]

Between the hvk,drh,grau and kilo which do yall think is the best

[jovial spruce]

Hvk and drh

[twilit wolf]

Only bad thing about the DRH is the mag cap

[wary tulip]

Hvk is always the best

It has faster fire rate and more ammo than DRH

[tawny walrus]

90 ms TTK.

[wary tulip]

I 2 tapped a headglitcher on 1 hp 💀

[twilit wolf]

Dosent the DRH have higher movement

[rich arch]

Uhh my name has a space in it

[bright cloud]

Hvk always

Top 5 ars rn
Hvk
Ffar/pk/m13
Em2
Groza/maddox
Mow/m16 wf/kn/lk

Even though m16/mow clearly>lk/kn just put them there so people dont freak out

[vale lichen]

No

Lk is simply better

[bright cloud]

No

[vale lichen]

Yes

[bright cloud]

Gib reason

[vale lichen]

Good control on any range

Recoillll

Thats W

M16 feels weird af not a bad gun but lk simply slay

[bright cloud]

M16 4 shots consistently till 50m and has best initial bsa

Recoil is vertical only

[vale lichen]

I have ptsd from m16 campers

2020

[rich arch]

Is that without full auto ?

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[rich arch]

Nice

M16 better than swordfish ?

Swordfish slapped but haven’t used in months tho

[bright cloud]

Burst? Yeah no

[native canopy]

Huh

Space in front?

[rich arch]

Yup

[native canopy]

Your win rate must be high

[rich arch]

Snd

[rich arch]

🗿

[rich arch]

3-2 win rate

[viscid belfry]

is this diamond?

[native canopy]

Down for some games?

[bright cloud]

This aint worth it. Either go full in ar snd build or fukl in lmg build

[rich arch]

Yea

[rich arch]

Just doing br with a friend atm

[rich arch]

This build satisfying though

[unreal gale]

you reckon the level 3 is worth it?

[rich arch]

Ehhh, hard to say. lvl 1 for the attachments is nice

Past that not needed really, just wanted to see

[native canopy]

Alright

[unreal gale]

I can't help but notice this skin is literally a krig6 mythic clone

[rich arch]

I’m not overly familiar with the krig

Without Diamond though it’s something, idk if it’s special though

Inspired by ying and yang

But still used dragon as inspiration

[ruby iris]

Dragon is important to chinese culture

1 of the 4 great animals or sonething iirc

[rich arch]

Yes, i don’t have an issue with it, thats just why they seem similar

[mellow harbor]

poopi

AAAAAA

[open ore]

Bruh

[mellow harbor]

Gn

[ruby iris]

Woulda been better if they cycle through all 4 of the animals

[mellow harbor]

lol

[narrow glen]

@mellow harbor, 2 Server Rank

[open ore]

Broo

[mellow harbor]

It's 11pm xd

[open ore]

What is going on

[mellow harbor]

Idk Chinese culture ig

[open ore]

💀💀💀💀

[mellow harbor]

There talking about how important the dragon from China is

Prolly has a stamp on it labelled "made in china" too

[scarlet tree]

The fennec is still the goat

[mellow harbor]

Ikr

The sound itself vibrates my belly

[rich arch]

Fennec mid and skilless, sick of seeing it

[mellow harbor]

Meh :^

I mastered fennec once

[scarlet tree]

Fennec victim

[mellow harbor]

Never used it after I mastered it

[open ore]

Broo iam laging

[ruby iris]

I want fn hamr

[mellow harbor]

🤣

[narrow glen]

@mellow harbor, 3 Server Rank

[scarlet tree]

You need skill to master the fennecs recoil and magazine size

[mellow harbor]

Recoil is too easy to control 😭

That's why noobies love it

[scarlet tree]

I do love it

[mellow harbor]

._.

[scarlet tree]

And I am not a noob

[rich arch]

There’s more than 4 though isn’t there?

[rich arch]

No, and its for close range anyway

[mellow harbor]

:^

[rich arch]

Hamr?

I want fn f2000 but

[mellow harbor]

I made long range ones, they suck

[scarlet tree]

It was one of the most used smgs in the world championship

[rich arch]

There’s 12 for the new years according to Google Rat, Ox, Tiger, Rabbit, Dragon, Snake, Horse, Goat, Monkey, Rooster, Dog, and Pig

[rich arch]

Nah I abuse it with better guns but nonetheless the users are just braindead

[ruby iris]

4 animals
Dragon, vermillion bird, tiger, turtle

[rich arch]

Dont build any smg for long range

[ruby iris]

That's different

[mellow harbor]

Bro, why didn't u say so

[scarlet tree]

Well 1 v1 me

[celest blade]

and what do u think takes skill

[mellow harbor]

It's too late for u to save me

[celest blade]

all cqc smgs are literally “just pull down”

fennec is the best option for that

[rich arch]

Wanna go to dms or general? there’s a cooldown here and this is technically off topic

[ruby iris]

SAW version of the scar 16
Automatically switches to open bolt when heat up to prevent cook off

[celest blade]

bro is just mad that he can’t win close range gunfights bc he’s holding a passive AR or sum shit

[rich arch]

We need a mares leg secondary

[rich arch]

Interesting

[rich arch]

Lmao im aggro and run aggro ars or smgs

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

I could 🤷‍♂️

[rich arch]

Bs you go aggro with a lmg 😂

[rich arch]

Yeah that’s technically a flex ar though

True enough

[ruby iris]

Tl;dr: lmg scar-L that slows down the fire rate after a while to prevent the gun exploding in your face

[bright cloud]

Bruen hadrs and chopper can be run aggro

[rich arch]

I’m running a type build that is certainly a build

[rich arch]

And ul

[rich arch]

He does it with UL

I know this because I play with him

[bright cloud]

😭

[rich arch]

💀💀💀 but that kinda prevents spam firing

[unreal gale]

especially the final form

[rich arch]

He also sometimes tries intresting builds with me

[rich arch]

The stats are fine and if im only using one gun ul does everything best 👍

[bright cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-yskysn-ltg-thunder-thunder-gif-23523876

[ruby iris]

It allows spam firing cuz your gun doesnt fucking blow up on your face and kills you

[bright cloud]

Why the fuck doesnt tenor work here

[rich arch]

💀

[rich arch]

Wrong channel

• no gif oerms

[rich arch]

☠️

[unreal gale]

okay maybe when you upgrade the krig it looks different

but the base krig look almost identical

[rich arch]

True

[unreal gale]

best krig build (for picture, FA grip in practice)

[rich arch]

Well yea, you could argue qq9 is similar because it also goes to a oval

[celest blade]

ok so? then u shouldn’t be complaining about fennec

[rich arch]

I do not posses mythic

[unreal gale]

ehh no, but the type19 and krig6 are similar guns too

[rich arch]

I never said I can’t counter it
I just said its annoyingly braindead 🗿

Top of the line build for ppsh

[unreal gale]

no recoil and good bsa on paper but aim shake kicks in

[rich arch]

…

[unreal gale]

same gun type, same playstyle

[rich arch]

You went positive with it

[celest blade]

i mean there’s no problem there

[rich arch]

Bc its so fast its lowkey good

[unreal gale]

same colour scheme, same geometry

same ironsight

[rich arch]

112 ms ads speed. Thats flippin instant

[vale lichen]

Taskforce barrel over foregrip

[unreal gale]

no

[rich arch]

Eh it is, kinda similar to holger players

[unreal gale]

fa grip f2w

[rich arch]

Why is it massive

[rich arch]

This is my build, it’s certainly something. I like the drum and I like being aggro

[celest blade]

nah more comparable to grau lmao

[rich arch]

Grau is braindead too

[unreal gale]

uhh those 2 are kinda antonyms

[celest blade]

tbh everything is

u just point n shoot lmao

[ruby iris]

1. Drum mag
2. Heat sensitive module

[rich arch]

I replaced it with t19 bc its better for aggro and slightly more skilled

[unreal gale]

try the standard build

[celest blade]

better hitbox

[rich arch]

Every game ever

[rich arch]

2 mobility

[celest blade]

ye

[unreal gale]

north supp, long barrel, agile stock, fast mag, polymer grip

[rich arch]

I have,

[ruby iris]

It's an iar

[unreal gale]

not good?

[rich arch]

I just like the drum too much for snd

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

bruh why...

[dark dock]

Whoz god at battle royal?

[rich arch]

So apple makes rifles now

[rich arch]

Wall sprays

[unreal gale]

bruh

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

use sks conversion then

[rich arch]

What I’m not sure about is if the bullet impact actually helps against a hardscoped snipers

[rich arch]

[dark dock]

What perk makes u drop a bomb after u die

[rich arch]

I refuse to use semi auto

[rich arch]

Martyrdom, red perk

[unreal gale]

you a thumbs player?

[ruby iris]

@rich arch try not to make the worst fucking jokes ever challenge (impossible)

[rich arch]

Yes, that’s exactly what I am

[dark dock]

Me no

[unreal gale]

oh then nvm

[rich arch]

💔

I’ll just go die

[shadow briar]

threres a scar-L saw???

[unreal gale]

semi autos are impossible to use with thumbs

[ruby iris]

Make better jokes smh

[dark dock]

Thanks

[unreal gale]

@rich arch so you should switch to claw

[shadow briar]

i already run 4 fingers

[ruby iris]

@shadow briar

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

They are impossible to use in a way that’s not rage inducing

[unreal gale]

wait i pinged the wrong guy

[shadow briar]

i wanna see one in .308 now

[rich arch]

I’m not gonna learn to play claw

I’m not dedicated enough

[unreal gale]

you need to spam the shoot button

which is also your aim button. so it's kinda impossible

[shadow briar]

people use combined shoot+aim?

[rich arch]

Thumbs

I only use the prone for planting

[shadow briar]

people play less than 3 fingers?

[rich arch]

May of dropsshotted a sniper try hard the other day cause he annoyed me

[dark dock]

Whats the best sniper in cod other than tundra

[rich arch]

Yur

[shadow briar]

probably koshka for bolts or xpr semi?

unless you wanna also count dmrs

[rich arch]

Is the na45 a semi?

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 30 Server Rank

[rich arch]

How is this surprising

Most are thumbs

[ruby iris]

In r6s theres a 762 nato vector

[rich arch]

Do I get perms

[narrow glen]

Your roles on this server do not allow you to use the AI commands.

Reach out to the server owner to know how to get an ai-authorized role or Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature with a personal plan.

[shadow briar]

its a monstrosity is what it is

[rich arch]

Lvl 35

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Im thumbs and do fine

Fuck auto mod

[shadow briar]

why the fuck would anyone make a .308 vector

thats actually awful

[rich arch]

Whoa whoa lets keep it sfw

[rich arch]

[ruby iris]

Never let your enemy know your next move

[shadow briar]

does it have the like 1100 rpm of an actual vector? and that looks like the barrel is maybe 10 inches?

that hurts so bad to look at

thank you for the cursed r6 gun lol

[rich arch]

This looks longer then the vector I’ve shot

The one I was using is legal in Canada though

So only 10rnd

[shadow briar]

fellow canadian

[rich arch]

East or west

[shadow briar]

and no full auto, so not worth getting an vector tbh

[shadow briar]

worse, atlantic

[ruby iris]

Irl vectors are chambered in pistol calibers

[rich arch]

Was at a range, bolt action .22 better to learn how to use a rifle anyways

[ruby iris]

That monstrosity is in battle rifle caliber

[rich arch]

This one was in .22

[ruby iris]

[shadow briar]

.22 vector???

[rich arch]

Yea, shot .22 long rifle

Jammed a lot ngl

[ruby iris]

Drh, m21, spr, those things

[shadow briar]

i guess the low pressure from .22lr made the recoil system less consistent

[shadow briar]

FAL as well

[ruby iris]

There is a 22 vector, not by kriss themselves iirc

[rich arch]

Uh, I think this one was by kriss

[shadow briar]

vector isnt worth getting in canada imho

[rich arch]

And you’re correct

[shadow briar]

since full auto is basically impossible to get, if at all

[ruby iris]

Nvm, it is

[rich arch]

I’m Berta

[rich arch]

Yea, but absolutely not worth it

Think it’s like 900-1000

For a .22

Like, you’re better off getting a .22 rifle

[shadow briar]

900 CAD is like 600-700 USD for reference, and this is a semi .22lr vector

[rich arch]

Jams less and has a longer barrel so can actually hit things farther then you can throw the bullet

[shadow briar]

thats so fucking cursed

[rich arch]

I assumed that the 900 was usd cause I’m looking at the kriss website which is American

[shadow briar]

oh shit

that comes to like 1400 CAD then?

give or take

[rich arch]

Not that much I think

Wanna say it’s 1200-1300

[shadow briar]

yeah only 1200

still, 1200 for a .22 semi

at that point go back 30 years and get 8 SKS's

[rich arch]

At least you can use it as a club when it jams after the first shot

[rich arch]

@rich arch This guy takes me seriously

[shadow briar]

that barrel is about 14 inches. standard FAL barrel is 21 inches, but some go down to 16/17in

[bright cloud]

Ive seen worse takes and opinions lmao you never know

[rich arch]

☠️

[bright cloud]

Hvk worst ar in the game😭

[rich arch]

Seen that multiple times

[shadow briar]

is this about that reddit post

[rich arch]

Holger > Ul

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[rich arch]

Looks better.

[bright cloud]

Had to argue with that mf for 30 minutes but bruder thinks its subjective

[shadow briar]

that guy got laid into so hard

[bright cloud]

Deserved

[rich arch]

N o

[bright cloud]

Two diff playstyles

[shadow briar]

holger is an AR that can run disable

[rich arch]

I said that purely to get mellow annoyed

My top guns are type 19, qq9 and hbra3 @bright cloud

[rich arch]

Way too slow for an ar

[rich arch]

Hbra3 chad

[shadow briar]

short barrel, no stock, 30 mag

[rich arch]

Yeah if you use a small mag its fine but then it feels like the mag is too small

[timber bone]

I need an good m4 build

[bright cloud]

Hbra3>grau fr fr

[rich arch]

No bsa

And still like 350 ms

[shadow briar]

gran and strike

[rich arch]

Just aim

[rich arch]

Oh didnt notice gran

[shadow briar]

but yea still kinda pain

[rich arch]

It’s compact

No stock is nerfed into the ground

[shadow briar]

what an original build

[sharp socket]

Hbra3 is great but the only problem is it cant 3tap

[rich arch]

I know, strike stock is such a wild attachment

[trail tide]

br build for fennec?

[rich arch]

Most guns dont three tap

[tawny isle]

no

[tawny isle]

bro built it like a fennec 😭

[bright cloud]

You actualy took that serious

[rich arch]

Yes

Hbra3 on top

Best looking gun 🔥

[tawny isle]

bruh

well now i know you are right about them

[rich arch]

Did you see this?

[tawny isle]

thats ppsh

[bright cloud]

No stock>strike stock

[tawny isle]

any light stock works

but yeah i prefer ns

[rich arch]

I alternate

Its an smg, run it as such

Sometimes use it sometimes don’t

[tawny isle]

if you want a steady smg, use a flex ar

[rich arch]

It severely lacks flexibility

[rich arch]

Ffar is perfect

[tawny isle]

yeah or m13

[rich arch]

And type 19 for easier to use

[bright cloud]

Ffar and pk goated

[bright cloud]

M13 too

[tawny isle]

peacekeeper is so good youre right

[rich arch]

Yeah m13 has been a main of mine for some time

[tawny isle]

i havent used it in a while but ill get back to it fs

[shadow briar]

ffar is SO good

[tawny isle]

i also use m4 as flex ar lmao

only bc of the free leggy

[rich arch]

Yup

Its just hard to aim with imo

[rich arch]

😭

[shadow briar]

i mained it for a while after a clanmate shredded me with it in a 1v1

its SO good for close-mid

[tawny isle]

first range is just really bad and it can’t 3 tap iirc

but its good

i run agency sup, taskforce, ae wrap, 44rnd and fa foregrip

[shadow briar]

36

[tawny isle]

ohh

[shadow briar]

but only to 7m lol

[tawny isle]

whats fire rate?

isnt it around 60-70?

[shadow briar]

same as m13

66 ffar vs 68 m13

[tawny isle]

easy 132 with 2 headshots

[shadow briar]

i run striker fg over fa fg

[tawny isle]

thats good too

[shadow briar]

fa better control, i prefer mobility

[rich arch]

Takedown barrel better

And foregrip a waste, run bandit stock or aa laser

[shadow briar]

ive always run stock over barrel

[rich arch]

Takedown barrel is goated what

Dont turn down 50% range at no actual downside 💀

[shadow briar]

i run it aggro as hell anyways

[rich arch]

It doesnt harm anything for aggro

[shadow briar]

so 25m 4tap vs 30m 4tap isnt all that relevant

[tawny isle]

it is kind of

[rich arch]

^

And its a flex ar
You can never not want range

[shadow briar]

i'll try it now to see if its worth

replace fg with barrel

[tawny isle]

what are stats of 20.3 takedown anyway

[shadow briar]

+50% range -5% sprint speed

[tawny isle]

ohh

[shadow briar]

vs task force 20% range but more recoil

[tawny isle]

i might prefer bv buff and dmg multiplier for taskforce actually

[shadow briar]

does dmg mult change any kill ranges?

[tawny isle]

yup

it basically raises the damage for the corresponding hitbox

[rich arch]

Uhh isn’t the multiplier pretty minimal

[tawny isle]

i dont think so

[bright cloud]

What gun ya tlaking ab

[tawny isle]

ffar

[rich arch]

And 30% bv < 30% range

[bright cloud]

Takedown

[bright cloud]

Takedown>ffar

Hitboxes make no difference

Takedown 50% range improves effective range aim greatly

[unreal gale]

Handling

[tawny isle]

ill give it a try later

[rich arch]

Taskforce screws that up more

Hurts recoil badly and takedown doesnt at all

[shadow briar]

i dont love dropping fg but the range is really nice

[unreal gale]

Ig you're not supposed to challenge headglitches with ffar either

[shadow briar]

takedown is ffar-main approved

[rich arch]

Tasforce + fg is basically the same recoil as takedown solo

[shadow briar]

thats drh/hvk shit

[unreal gale]

Yeah oh wait he said takedown nvm

[rich arch]

Its aggro/flex, no

Its not meant for precision but its a very solid all-rounder

[shadow briar]

ffar is run-and-gun, if they on a headglitch you need to reposition

[narrow glen]

@shadow briar, 43 Server Rank

[bright cloud]

Lemme calculate bv ranges

[shadow briar]

bv is pretty much irrelevant in mp

[bright cloud]

Takedown is 14.7m hitscan

[bright cloud]

Makes ttk higher

[bright cloud]

And tfb 19.5 meters

[shadow briar]

800 m/s, 0.01s is 80m

when are you challenging a 80m lane with ffar

[unreal gale]

0.1

[shadow briar]

shit you right

i cant math

[unreal gale]

24m is like 0.03

[bright cloud]

It isnt calculated like that in codm

[unreal gale]

Or 30ms, which is non trivial

[bright cloud]

33ms aka 2 frames

[shadow briar]

ok, 80m adds 0.1s to your 0.3x second 6tap ttk

so at 80m you have a 25% worse ttk

[unreal gale]

Also m13 sucks. Wow

[rich arch]

Uh what

[unreal gale]

Compared to the actual metas, m13 really doesn't stand

Tried my m13 again. The ttk feels so slow

[rich arch]

I mean tbf ffar, grau, and t19 all beat it

[shadow briar]

35m 130ms 3tap

[unreal gale]

I'm used the drh hvk 3 tap ttk

[shadow briar]

or 200ms 4tap

[bright cloud]

That isnt how you wanna calculate bv in codm

[shadow briar]

past 35m

[unreal gale]

And m13s 300ms feels like wow

[shadow briar]

its only 300 if you hit no heads

tldr if you run m13 you need to be getting head

otherwise not worth

[unreal gale]

You don't calculate ttk with headahots

Way too inconsistent

M13 doesn't have the best bsa recoil combo either

So you can't beam heads like you can with other guns

[shadow briar]

damn m13 feels mid

i remember it feeling way better

[rich arch]

Pre-grau

[shadow briar]

ah

whats the vibe on drh builds? Tac supp, light barrelm no stock gran and 25 otm?

or light stock instead?

[rich arch]

Ranger barrel

[shadow briar]

40ms ads speed < 20% range?

[tawny isle]

just hit the head

[rich arch]

Yeah

Cuz bsa too

I use this anyway

[tawny isle]

i always run vulture

25 rnd is never enough

[rich arch]

Me too

Its saving my life a ton since the buff too

[placid dove]

What is meta rn?

[shadow briar]

hvk

[placid dove]

Damn fr?

I haven’t played for a while so idk much

[shadow briar]

hvk has been meta for a while

[placid dove]

Do you have a good build?

[shadow briar]

large cal, gran tape, marksman barrel, tac supp and red dot is mine rn

i sometimes swap red dot for light stock

but as long as you have large cal mag you're good tbh

[rich arch]

Light barrel not marksman

And tac laser or combat stock instead of marksman

[queen pebble]

Acog and light suppressor

[rich arch]

As optionals

[rich arch]

💀💀💀

[placid dove]

Bruh im confused

No suppresor?

[queen pebble]

W build

[rich arch]

He mentioned tac

Mono, ligjt barrel, large cal, gran tape, and tac laser is the main build

[shadow briar]

makes sense tbh, just havent run it myself

mono and light over tac and marksman?

[rich arch]

Yes

[shadow briar]

makes sense from mobility

[rich arch]

Mono keeps range boosting

[shadow briar]

but doesnt it lose a lot of bsa?

[rich arch]

Big time, hvk strafe is insane and with marksman its mid

[rich arch]

It still has 16 bsa like that lol

[queen pebble]

Acog, light supressor, rubberized grip tape, merc foregrip full ammo

W hvk build right there

[rich arch]

Melee master 🤫

[queen pebble]

You right

[shadow briar]

mines at 7.6 bsa

[rich arch]

Overkill, massively

[shadow briar]

mono, light, lc, laser and gran

is 7.6 bsa

[rich arch]

Yeah no one needs 7.6 bsa 😭

Rivaling fr5.56 atp

[queen pebble]

I do

[rich arch]

how

16 is beamable enough at 40m
7.6 is br level 💀

[bright cloud]

Oden crazy accurate in br

[shadow briar]

go down to -10 BSA for extra half m/s strafe

[rich arch]

Yeah I just mean in general tho

Like avg br accuracy seems to be 5-7

[rich arch]

☠️

[shadow briar]

mp generally 1-3?

[rich arch]

Uhh no

Like 17 maybe

[bright cloud]

[rich arch]

Depends on gun and build

[shadow briar]

i was looking at the wrong stat this whole time

[bright cloud]

Yes

[rich arch]

Wait

[shadow briar]

holy shit i'm sorry gamers

[rich arch]

Dont tell me you meant the bsa in parentheses 😭

[bright cloud]

That is more important value than max imo

[rich arch]

If youre very accurate

[shadow briar]

initial is the start of your firing right

[rich arch]

But that stat doesnt change a ton

[shadow briar]

so assuming you kill in 3-5 bullets wouldnt initial be the one that applies more?

[rich arch]

Yes but few can beam like that

[shadow briar]

so yours is 15.6 (9.4) bsa 3.2m/s strafe mine is 18.5 (11) bsa 3.8 m/s strafe

hear me out

[queen pebble]

Cause I play like thiccy man Tectonic

If I rush I use shotties

[rich arch]

Bro should’ve been born in garena

Meanwhile, yes.

[rich arch]

[shadow briar]

not a fan?

[rich arch]

The stats are off, how does your build have more strafe

[shadow briar]

swapped laser for light stock

[rich arch]

Oh

[shadow briar]

thats why its spread is 3 higher

[rich arch]

[shadow briar]

technically could have gone combat stock but flinch = more pain than the ads is worth imo

actually wait maybe nvm 0.03s faster ads

[rich arch]

Who notices flinch

[shadow briar]

me when using sks

[rich arch]

Besides on snipers/marksmans and red dot cqc smgs ofc yeah 💀

[shadow briar]

but it takes strafe from 3.8 to 3.65

[rich arch]

Not that big a difference

But ay to each their own

[shadow briar]

i need to try it to see if the bsa is too much pain'

[rich arch]

I mean youll be missing a lot if youre strafing faster anyhow

[hoary flare]

anyt to change

[rich arch]

I recommend a suppressor

[hoary flare]

ahh oki

switch barrel?

[rich arch]

Unless you want the extra range a good bit yeah

[viscid belfry]

both good

[queen pebble]

I got a better build

[rich arch]

I mean this is literally my build 💀 (im global it just doesnt show yet)

[rich arch]

Depends on mode

[viscid belfry]

eh

[hoary flare]

slight similarity

[viscid belfry]

ngl im 🔥 now

[rich arch]

Yeah just supp not barrel

[rich arch]

W pfp

[hoary flare]

yep

[viscid belfry]

ye

[hoary flare]

also how long is disable duration

[viscid belfry]

idk but not worth

maybe 2 or 3 secs

[rich arch]

Alternatively passive build is
Tac sup
60 rd mag
Tac laser or gran
Extended barrel
Steady stock

[hoary flare]

steady stick

[rich arch]

Yeah
And ul really doesnt have free slots

[hoary flare]

interesting

[rich arch]

Mb 💀

[queen pebble]

Why can’t I put my build in here

[hoary flare]

xd

[rich arch]

Maybe no img perms

[queen pebble]

Exactly that

[rich arch]

Got to #┃server-media-passes and select gunsmith pass

[viscid belfry]

lmfao

[queen pebble]

W build fr

[viscid belfry]

WW

sk its not that bad lol

[rich arch]

Better off with 4x than standard depth charge scope

But you have it diamond and mastered too massive W

[viscid belfry]

y?

[hoary flare]

lmao

[queen pebble]

I use the irons on it

[hoary flare]

troll build

[queen pebble]

Irons are absolutely terrible

[viscid belfry]

no bro thats insane build

[rich arch]

Way worse than base

[viscid belfry]

rlly? i think its nice

[queen pebble]

You think that until you get it

Thats how I thought

[viscid belfry]

im f2p

well not more but i dont have money

[queen pebble]

Just saying, don’t buy it for the love of god

[viscid belfry]

lol

[queen pebble]

Buy the other one in the for you

[rich arch]

I picked it up once and couldnt see squat

[viscid belfry]

i dont like lmgs

[queen pebble]

I got asian eyes so we good

[rich arch]

Base, teal steal (f2p blueprint, mine) and then depth charge

[queen pebble]

Sometimes

[rich arch]

😭

[hoary flare]

what the second image

the second iron sight

[viscid belfry]

atleast depth ul sight its unique

[hoary flare]

looks like some aa gun sight

[rich arch]

Teal steal

[rich arch]

It is

But dogwater

[viscid belfry]

dogwater?

[hoary flare]

the other one?

[rich arch]

In order, its base, teal steal, and depth charge

[rich arch]

Trash

[hoary flare]

ohh

the legendary L86 from that ww2 season

[rich arch]

It was some time back ye

[hoary flare]

i used to play on my dad acc back then

[rich arch]

This is what it should look like. And the x marks the spot skin for ul is this, but it was from some crate so I can’t get it

[hoary flare]

hm not bad

feels like the real L86

[rich arch]

That is the real l86

[hoary flare]

can i see the full skin?

[rich arch]

From other cods
One epic ul blueprint from a crate has it

The answer is, yes I want it

[hoary flare]

YOOO

i need this skin

[rich arch]

Tell me ab it 💀

[hoary flare]

the default looks nothing like an L86

[rich arch]

Save up coupons for the crate return whenever

[unreal gale]

wait that skin is super p2l

[rich arch]

Yeah I think the designer got fired

[unreal gale]

noah made a video on it

[rich arch]

The sights

[hoary flare]

darn

[unreal gale]

yeah. watch noah's video on it

[rich arch]

Its not half bad

[unreal gale]

it's bad...

[winter iris]

m4 lmg but smaller

[rich arch]

Mm alr
Can be gotten for crate coupons at least

[hoary flare]

true

[unreal gale]

sure, but there are definitely better uses for it

[hoary flare]

should be alright for me since i use Default Ak5 sight and

[winter iris]

if its 3 shot just put a sight on it easy

[hoary flare]

G36K iron

[ornate jackal]

Bro sunny im getting ur kinda matchmaking

Please make it go away is this permanent

Top 100s in top 5k every game

[rich arch]

True

Can’t find noahs video

[ornate jackal]

Im not even a t3 player i think

This is cursed

[unreal gale]

I'm in the same region as you I think, so I'll probably recognize some of them

can you send some pictures?

[unreal gale]

yeah I can't find it either

but anyway, he did a video on it a while back and that skin sucked

[rich arch]

Hm maybe so

His video on the teal steal skin is back when it had like 80 rounds and a 4 second reload 😭

Either way I want the blueprint bc ul + its the realistic skin + it changes sights so its fun

[rich arch]

Bro has goat leo 😭

[ornate jackal]

I also matched with kami and despair no.12 and no.20 but didnt recognize them

[rich arch]

💀💀

Kami was lil artz btw

No 1 last season

[ornate jackal]

I hate it cause i dont stand any chance im getting cross mapped by m13s and switchblades

[rich arch]

Claw + gyro moment

[ornate jackal]

Oh I thought angel was artz

[rich arch]

Nah

[ornate jackal]

Bro we lost bro

[rich arch]

With them or without?

[ornate jackal]

I never go neg in tdm i always at least tie it in bad matches that was horrible

[rich arch]

How did bro go 13-10 when hes like 3rd

[ornate jackal]

I literally just started camping and hiding so i wouldnt die

[ornate jackal]

He was 2/6 at 24-33

[rich arch]

[native canopy]

2 kills and no assists damn

When I perform bad and get negative kd i usually have alot of assists

[unreal gale]

oh that's a rip. t2 lobby for sure

[unreal gale]

that's such a rip

yeah idk man, feels bad lol

bobo is in RL though

[unreal gale]

lb players don't usually play tdm so they have basically 0 tdm game sense

when I play tdm I rarely go above 2kd too

ig it depends on the lobby

[rich arch]

Any tips on making headshots easier in general?

I’m using a Red dot to make it a bit more clear for aiming at heads

[ornate jackal]

Whats that

[tawny isle]

play on hijacked

[bright cloud]

You grinded without lc? Poor soul

[tawny isle]

i had an 83% headshot percentage there one time

[tawny isle]

you need to in order to get reptile

[bright cloud]

And to unlock the attachment. I used hvk in trial loadout and then in main

[tawny isle]

it worked in trial fir me

[rich arch]

No it’s chilling 😂

It still hurts them. I’m just bad at headshots because normally go to center mass

[viscid belfry]

i saw that game lol

i was like "OMFG" when i saw the top2 hvk guy

[ornate jackal]

Yeah i knew we were either losing or he would carry

I didnt even do that bad when me and sunny played tdm

[keen gazelle]

headshots are stupid easy once yk how to play for them

hp ship and first two points give the easiest headshots, lemme show a video

@rich arch watch it and tell me if you see how in getting them

[unreal gale]

Stack recoil

Use this

Also use large caliber in your tirla loadout while grinding

[keen gazelle]

why would you need to stack recoil

just push up close and drop 30 headshots each game 😭 no need to play passive for some lol

[viscid belfry]

ik that skin

its a nice m416 one

[unreal gale]

Eh it helps

Oh shoot and @rich arch use a red dot

Makes headshots way easier

[unreal gale]

All points are easy for headshots in shipment if you get a lobby tbh

You can just camp forklift for p3

And beam bots as they slowly walk towards you

[unreal gale]

With hvk, you shoukd get in the habit of aiming near the head

Just build your gun with more recoil control and aim tighter

Even 1 bullet to the head is huge for hvk

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch going to tundra

[rich arch]

@tiny mulch which one should I run

For snd^

[tiny mulch]

Bottom 2

I have both, i switch them up each time

[rich arch]

Toughness?

[rich arch]

Nicee good luck

[rich arch]

I run quick fix because I grinding shipment hp, toughness wouldn’t give me survivability

[rich arch]

💀

[viscid belfry]

im on half for gold

[rich arch]

Wait what… so I might be better than you at tdm

[rich arch]

W

[rich arch]

Camp?

[ornate jackal]

2kd is good most times that could be 4/2 or 16/8 as long as ur not dying more than ur kills (or getting a kill dying and repeating)

[rich arch]

Ik I mean I pretty often pass 2kd in tdm

Its usually just my goal

[ornate jackal]

Sweat mellow

[rich arch]

Well uh I dont exactly do that with hp ☠️

[ornate jackal]

And only with thumbs thats crazy

[rich arch]

Most of my skills are mental

[ornate jackal]

I break even with hp and dom unless theyre noobs i just go for obj time

[rich arch]

I always hold it down 😭

So twinning there

[ornate jackal]

Dude angelz sold out

[rich arch]

Which is funny since im aggro

[ornate jackal]

New 8 member

[ornate jackal]

I used aggro m4lmg its not for me

U really need to use ar rounds for that and its like no i need my bullets

[rich arch]

Yeah and then its ttk is too bad for close range

[rich arch]

I hate 8 players

[ornate jackal]

Which is weird cause i constantly try and reload with 100 mag yet suck when using 40 round which is more my playstyle

[ornate jackal]

U should play frag, hes also thumbs

[ornate jackal]

Opposite btw mlg ttk is bad at range its decent at close especially cause it has 32 dmg now

[rich arch]

Whats its fire rate again

[rich arch]

He asked if I wanted to play a bit ago and hasnt responded since

💀

[rich arch]

REAL

[ornate jackal]

Ill check

Never used it for its stats it just was there

[rich arch]

Fair enough

[ornate jackal]

Like it just happened to be there I randomly had diamond randomly was on lb and just stayed consistent

[rich arch]

😭😭😭

[ornate jackal]

95ms

3 taps all of first range, everything after that is 4taps up until 3rd range then its just hope disable saves me

[rich arch]

Pretty decent

[ornate jackal]

Thats so weird why cant it 3tap head at 2nd range

Ig I get disable so im not mad

[rich arch]

💀

Ouch

[viscid belfry]

i get 1/15 sometimes

thats y i need help

[austere igloo]

Tf is this?

Why are all the new gun’s bp epics coming with goofy ass irons?

[tawny isle]

looks nicer than normal imo

[austere igloo]

Bruh the normal one is bttr what are you talking about

[rich arch]

Ehhh