#codm-gunsmith-help
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Have you ever told truth in your life light?
only time i played zombies was on bo1
Anyone got a good Type 19 build
its ass now, i miss the old nzi maps
Players turn into zombies
The bipod looks op
This is probably best all around bc yes
Loving this beast
Search in YT

Itd make you slow asf
No thanks I am lazy
Doesn't suprise me
I want this so badly
My fav moment frome the anime no lie
How so
Ok so for blue perk survival training or tactical mask
imagine using an ar thats funny
Neither
Dead silence or hardline
just use a tundra or a locus (dlq is trash)
Man of culture i c
Koshka > locus
dlq is the worst fkin sniper to ever exist like im not even meming rn
L>near for sure
M21 ebr:
Anyone who says otherwise is stupid
You got no life lol
Koshka isn’t for hardscoping at all??
all the people ive seen use it only hardscope
It has faster ads speed, faster bolt speed, and is the best for blankscoping
its so annoying, like they got 0 skill, they watched some random ahh sniper video and think they good cus they proceed to camp in 1 spot for the rest of the game
Everyone who snipes in ranked hardscopes besides the rare few
i never hardscope
hardscopin gaee
And they almost always run dlq or something 
quickscope >>>>>>
Im of firm belief popular snipers are for quickscope/hardscope hybrid playstyke
And marksman for pure quickscoping
Well ofc
i love how some people think quickscoping = standing at a spot and just waiting for someone to come out from the house and then scope and kill
Marksman(quickscoping):Argus>mk2>kilo>spr>outlaw
Bolt action(hybrid):Tundra>koshka>locus>dlq
Bolt action(hardscoping*):Hdr>> av zrg
Note:Hardscoping isnt a viable playstyle
Tundra has absurdly low flinch with the best stats for quickscoping though
one could argue this is quickscoping, but not at its finest
This is a section of my all guns ranked by playstyle list
Correct
However hardscoping is extremely viable in ranked
crash and crossfire is so bad now
Crash hardscopers sitting in the house at spawn:
Always has been
everyone hardscopes there, and there are level 10 players who's whole fkin squad using a dlq and hardscoping from all directions thinkin they skilled (they aint skilled just cus they camp)
Yeah its a map designed for hardscopers
real
I somehow still do well in it
When I got a chopper gunner in it. Look at the enemies 💀💀
ive never used a stealth chopper
And my teammates were too braindead to know to not walk in the open alley??



…
average random matchmaking
I also need teammates
Trash scorestreak why tf
fym trash
Dont we all
its legit the best (for the capture mode thingy atleast)
It can kill you, and it maybe gets 2 kills on the enemy
i end up getting like 8 kills lol
For its price why not use a chopper? At least stealth chopper
also why is my ultra kill and kill chain not the same???
Idk medals much
. Crash lit has too many places to camp
On two maps imo
In ranked or
like it says get 8 kills or more in a short time
no shi, i only play ranked lol
Diesel, crash, crossfire, hijacked, standoff, terminal, takeoff, etc
Crash isnt a map for ranked imo but whatever. Same for nuketown
Hm alr then
vtol also nice
but rly ass ngl
Yeah chopper better
not worth the amount of pain and suffering it takes to get it
okay ill use it
Ye
also wanna see my powerpoint
Youll get more kills for less points required
its a W
Sure
I am playing for 7 months now but still better than some who are playing from 2-3 years
Some dont improve skill level 
Im thumbs and better than most claw players I come across, like tf
I reached legendary every season in mp
Also some js dont play rank or take the game seriously
Im speaking of those who do ranked
Even the some who has mythic sucks
Skin doesnt equal skill no?
P2ws generally are trash
Buying skins to try to overcome skill issue

Ngl i think the only skins o say r good is krig 6 mythic n holger mythic imo
I have played pubg but I didn't depend on my teammates
Their builds are awful half the time, with trash aim
True
Holger mythic mid asf but eh
Since pubg is br
Kilo and em2 are some of the best
Idk i got no skins
Idrc for br
I forgot abt kilo :
Me either but I yoink every one I see
U use snipers?
Not in ranked often, im really only good at sniping in 1v1s
Yeah
You use base m13 sights when you have the mythic so opinion disregarded anyway
Pov: u picked up the mythic dlq n this was the build
Its happened before
.
And a mythic kilo with the 100 rd mag 💀💀💀 still slayed
Noice
Holger but worse
Yeah 💀
And holger is ul but worse 🗣️🔥
Idk ul is good but idk how to use
Jkjk they work differently
Build it according to your wishes
r u fuckin serious
i just got banned from discord bro
Skill issue
What is a "flex" anyw
like bro all i do is play codm tf u mean
Ul is a good one but have you tried t19 yet
ffs
Flexible
@rich arch accept friend req
Ye but not the biggest fan i prefer the grau
Just dont reveal peoples locations or personal info

blud i didnt
Dark matter is better than other skins on m-13
Hmm, drh?
No :
No comment

You dont like it? 
Best gun ingame
Uh… alr
Kurumura drh
Asm10 three taps full body its worth a go

Smg :?
Ak47 is also absurdly stable and a sleeper 3 tap 💀 two taps head now too
ok im back
Oh, cx9?
Bet build?
I have fake asm color spectrum
I thought it was kn 44 had colour spectrum bruh my head hurts
That type 19 is crazy
Barrel: cx38s
Stock: cx-fr
50 rd mag
Gran tape/the rename of it
Red dot or soh or laser
It does
Doesn’t really sound silenced tho
fake
I’m using your build
Yeah im jk 😭
Its sound is weird, like it skips shot sounds, not sounding for each time you fire
Ok

Also the qq9 build u gave me is crazy ngl
Good or bad way
It’s cracked but the drh is next level
@rich arch,
28 Server Rank
Yey
Hmm alr
Did you use 10mm mag or 45 rd mag btw
10mm
I either go god mode or dookie with it
Ahh
Great for snd
If its obj modes and maybe respawns too then 45 rd is better
But 10mm is a lot more consistent in ttk
I still did well with it in respawns but ye not great
Fa-ke color spectrum
Map?
Stand-off
Screw cx9 and grau attachment names man
Fair enough
BO
Yeah I hate it when they change names
Not eben black ops. Just mw attachment with wierd names
Gimme grau build
Your kd?
Same
Ye
Yeah archangel drifter czen and nexus
Grau is manageable, idk what to tell about cx-9
I actualy think czen might be better than nexus f9r certian playstyles
Also works to swap laser or no stock for sniper elite grip ir to use archangel barrel
Eh i just remembered cx38s and fr cx dont need more
Or red dot instead of laser/stock
Not bad
Or good ol nexus/mono
I could do better if none of them camping n js faced me head on also ty for the build
Passive
Eh using mono depletes almost any reason to not use archangel and tac sup
I went over this with sunny
:|
I just gave up on cx-9 attachment
Real 💀 and np if I can build a gun I’ll do it lol
Its its semi autos I dip 
Better mobikity main upside
Yeah
But
When using mono you lose the ads speed advantage of nexus
And the bsa discounts the extra range
All 5 camping none of them pushed
💀💀💀
Thats where the good friend c4 comes in handy 
Idk either 1-2 pushed but then got destroyed by my team
It was nuketown.
Its supposed to be archangel, but better. For flex i would honestly use czen anyway
Nuketown moment bruh no one twitches
They camping up top so no use i would be dead before i can activate it
I forget any point of czen
how do i check my overall mp kd
I just know squall is good for aggro (no not drifter)
I got a 1.67kd in mp ranked......
This was czen lmao
Im trash for real :
Im dumb asf
Nothing bad with that
Its shit no?
lemme go check my ranked kd
Anyway czen vs nexus
what rank are you
If it was snd yes respawns nah
Master III
its decent id say
Quote of the day
cod devs need to learn how to use commas
2 meters hitscan rang and damage range extra
Why? Where mistake?
I play snd bro im shit 
...for something , does not ...
Uhh well whats your overall stats
my mp kd aint much different : (
Yeah thats pretty good
I mean overall for ranked
it shows it like this for me idfk why
Hit data details
@rich arch 0.01kd good for hp?
wym
Its what I get for hp

Go to the ranked tab section
On the bottom middle/right, theres a button that says data details
2mins in objective and negative kd

I am noobdy
Oh wait I read hp as dom
I always hold point most and usually get most kills bc im a one man team 💀
ok i found it
I clear it, then hold it, then let teammates come in, then I trap off entries
damnnn 1.53 KD XDDDD
If its dom then im left to cap all three points solo with 3 playsrs waiting for me everywhere
Oh 😭
I missed the drh kurona whatever shi skin bro
Above 1.5 is still fine
Base sights are good thankfully
My kd is shit :
And no giant snake kill effect that blocks your vision 💀💀💀
Fuck bro why do i suck at codm ;-;
matches played: 119
matches won: 76
consecutive wins: 6
average score: 2125
MVP TITL EARNED (final): 27
MVP TITLE EARNED (defeat): 12
K/D ratio: 1.53
Nah youre fine
1.2kd ye im fine.
I would play with you to see but youre on the other side of the globe so one of our pings would be nuked
Eh decent
top 3 weapons used:
LOCUS:
use time: 2h45m
total kills: 456
total used: 67
win rate: 68.6%
K/D ratio: 1.37
hit rate : 39.0% (bruh we dont talk bout it)
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@crimson arch
NAH MY HITRATE IS WORSE ON A AUTO GUN
Ofc it is
grau:
use time: 2h22m
total kills: 381 kills
total used: 44
win rate: 59.1%
kd ratio: 1.30
hit rate: 15.2%
Sniper accuraxy will always be way higher than auto accuracy
thats normal, cus u use more bullets as per the sniper
where is dat
15%… uh thats a bit low
idk how to use an ar xd
how do i get there?
I spray with this a ton + one tap ads fire means I waste 3 bullets every time I ads and I have 18%
Spear unlock on 8th feb
- LW3-TUNDRA:
use time: 36m
total kills: 64
total used: 20
win rate: 61.4%
kd: 0.74 (its a new sniper that i just started using im not used to it sorry cuh)
hit rate: 30.6%
My top 3 are tundra fennec and drh
Idk maybe coz i turned off aim assist for like 90% of the time when i used it
Ul type and drh for me
guys does anyone wanna be friends
im new to codm, i just came back after a ~3 year break
Hmm that can’t help
Im not on much so eh
im.. a bit decent id say so
Oh
damn
Youre eu
My ping would be nuked
xd
I think cbr gonna be my no. 1 used gun for rank in like 2 weeks
i have a good wifi i think i can get like 80 ms on ur server
Why bruh
I wanna try dlq but im not used to the new hud yet
Tundra:
Use time: 4hr 54m
Kills: 261
Total use: 67
Win rate: 52.3%
K/d: 1.14
Hit rate: 32.9%
My hit rate is so low
use a tundra trust
Js beams coz i in lower rank
W
guysi have 6k kills in MP, wanna know which gun has the most kills? (gun type)
One of my most used weapons is by15 with slugs lmao
Sniper no doubt
Fastest marksman
multiplayer killer: 6290/500
sniper master: 2961/500
@pseudo pawn,
13 Server Rank
xd
The Argus is on the wrong category
assault master: 1099/500
Argus is faster but by can hipfire
Ts is a sniper
Oh true
Thats why i consider r90 and by skugs hybrid shotguns
My top 3 gun stats (help me I have to carry 4/5 games)
What server
For both hf and ads
eu
Same
What part?
I’m currently grinding ranked
Matches I be getting
Whats the diff between zhe bright red legendary icon and normal one?
Always wondered that
Can’t believe I carried a 2am clan sweat
Is that top 5k?
Top 5k is sparkly
Im starting to get t2 players in my matches and im starting to get like 2nd and 3rd place with 1-1.5kd now 
What’s ur ign I’ll add u
Got my first bottom frag victory of the season earlier
I have to regain my aim and then ill start playing t2
Heyy yo I’m new here what’s good!
Super ez get ur friends that r good n afk
Im pretty good all around but I am randomly braindead and should switch to three fingers before going comp 
You need at least 4 for comp imo
Havent been beaten by another thumbs player but that doesnt compare to comp claw sweats
T2 at least. You could 3 fingers in t3 or 4 maybe
I szill cant regain my aim after 2 months
Bro I'm four fingers, but sometimes I get troubled in aiming
Practice
I have to start playing more intensly and turn off aa for a time
I said sometimes
Practice x2
Most of the time my aim is clear
i forgot my ign lol
I mean everyone has blips
hang on i got the id tho
Yeah my aim os that washed
wtf is a blip
My sens is so close to perfect tho
Do you play many other games
My sens is 70 overall, and 120 for ads
Lil of r6m and wzm bunch of ab and used to play a loooot of fortnite mobile
And im at 85 fov at sync ads on phone
Hmm maybe being used to multiple huds/sensitivites/gameplays is hard
If youre already at low graphics then its a device issue
You ever seen fortnite mobile gameplay is lol
damn
You need 6 finger hud for taht
Yeah ☠️
@feral gorge 6858277183606489089
I mean once I quit pixel gun my skill improved greatly in codm
Bit def not i play wzm and r6m very casualy. R6m and ab dont require some special sens aim isnt that important for me on those two aim
Hmmm fair enough
I only need special sens so codm and fortnite
So i basicky have 2 diff senses rly
And i stopped fortnite since og ended

So uh you just really fell off
Try pushing to top 5k and only use 1 gun and see how that works
@o_gloand ck_18 anybody know how to get free cp in codm
yea dm me
u dont

there r ways
No I don't that's why I am asking
tell me then
Yes tournament I know
But I listen in a video that by redeem code you get cp
yea for garena
bs
Ohh I see
dm me i will send u a video
What is Twitter quests
i cant send here
Doesnt matter much since i use sync fov
dm me
So all weapons except snipers have same fov and same aim consistency
Bro I don't have soo much free time to play and get in the top 5k
then play for fun
oo goodluck
No it's over
lmao
My gamesense is rly good tho @rich arch i just need to regain aim
And 3 snipers are remaining for the gold skin
Fair fair
And remember all the map knowledge i had
My gamesense is mid
My aim is pretty good
My movement is ok
My knowledge is very good
My trickery is great 
Utility angles, wallbang places, spawns etc.
Fun Fact I use snipers with full mobility
Its half of how I win
My movement is rly good too
And it works good
I manipulate the best little spots and where I know enemies will be
Figures since claw
My gamesense is trash
My aim is pretty trash
My movement is non-existent
My knowledge is very dogwater
My luck is great 
Cuz my right index is for movement
Yeah I’ll do that except left bc im left handed
💀💀💀
☠️
I got to legendary in my first season at 12 and without audio so im a natural ig
You can’t pick or choose it but I can see
my gamesense is ok
my aim is bad
my movement is great
my knowledge good
my luck is insane
Hoping I get the bad ping to be fair
My luck is in the negatives bruh
sometimes
Bro as you all know that there is diamond medal of guns
Id nuke if it wasnt for my luck
Yeah i shoot and aim with left and aim and movement with right
Makes sense
6858277183606489089
Oje sec
What after diamond
my uid, add me
I have shoot and ads for ads cancel and normal ads(tap to ads) for generaly adsing cuz its easier to go from ads to bunny hopping or dropshotting
anyways i hope i will use more fingers with that phone
I dont get all the different terms for aiming ngl 😭 I just hitnfire button and it ads’s and fires
that doesnt make any sense
add me
Alr
u r global right?
do u have 2 accounts
Snipers or autos @pseudo pawn
Yeah
no my other got banned like 2 hrs ago, apparently i dawxed people
k add me
it dont matter
I am in global
mhm
ill use sniper eitherway lol
Oh alr lol
Xpr his ass
Should I use tundra or arctic to be nice
im boutta get shit on

use whatevah
t h u m b s
Thumbs issues smh
Shh
invite me bruh
I’ll use this bc funni
i dont want to wait any longer to beat you
Uhh lower your hopes
shipment
Go tundra on his ass
lmfao shipment go wild

Id feel bad
@rich arch dont cry if u loe
💀
Wait if i use only serpernt wrap on the tundra will it be good??
bs
Ye, go tundra on his ass
HARSCOEPRPRPRPR!!!! lmfaooo
There is tap to ads which basicly means you tap the ads button and it adses. Tap and hold as ling as you hold the ads button the weapon is gonna aim
Hybrid is just bad
Same for two tap
csp
I just love it when I'm one kill off long range kills on a gun ;-;
capp*
💀
rm
shush
I warned ya
press the start button cuh
On it
You learned shipment spawntrap?
u boutta lose
@pseudo pawn,
15 Server Rank
Why?
NOOO
You get the flick of hold to ads
And the precision of tap to ads
Flick? Like lean?
Like when you get jumped and need to flick like it's codm
Oh i mixed it with r6m
Where swiping ads button to left or right makes you lean
Arena breakout is tarkovm
fickckckctiorhfigoj
😦
yes but he's sterile now
Ye se
i shot his balls like 9 times
Balls of duty
Pretty much
@rich archhow yo balls doing
lmao
Wdym? What crosshair do you use
Empty them for me next 🫨
Marksman crosshair on tundra often
But I prefer default it seems
Top notch
Didnt like it

Preference issue smh
Its my 4th option
Do you use extra crosshair like gaming phones have?
Nah nah though I do use a settings button
He meant sniper reticle
Samsung has built in crosshair so i can have a beutiful upside down trident crosshair
(Like this)
I thought only rogs and redmagics had that
Yes
No samsung has that too and its goated fr
Nice
Yea used that too before i found about samsung crosshair
At first thought whs crosshairs meant so much but it rly helps
Im on ios 
My crosshair preference in order
Anything else is trash
Never changed crosshairs on tundra lol
Agreed
I gotta see whivh on i like the most
@formal river,
40 Server Rank
For what?
Probs default
Default still best probably
W
At the same time lol

for saying homo as a joke
but in the 3 letter form
ion know how thats offensie bruh
💀
Automute catches a lot of stupid stuff
bro the mod told me not to say it after i got unmuted
Yeah bc it automutes
"watch yo fookin language mate or else ill tell the mods to find yo house"
Fr
Later
Im cleaning rn
Alr
Both cuz why not
well ur boutta win
Just takes practice
cus he trash
shush

im on a nintendo switch
First I used arctic, no sp
Second was tundra
No like who is who here. Did you win or he
Mello won
But he is not good as me
I won both
Id smash you laddie
No u
My flicks were crazy few months ago when i actualy played the game

Im only good at 1v1s when it comes to snipers lol
And somehow im pretty good
Fought an obvious claw sniper sweat and managed to win 20-17 and 20-19 💀💀💀
I suck at snipers
You bot

Yeah
We can do autos instead if you want ofc
Wait this is your id right?
Yup
US
Its called murder on my mind?
Idk why i can also play global codm :
Odd lol
AY I CAN PLAY WITH U
Oh mb I copied the other guys id
Oh
@pseudo pawn this guy?
Yeah mb lol
Where are you from?
Accepted
Send me invite
Alr ready?
Luck
Someone changed my name lol I used to habe Mellow
Ye
@bright cloud,
19 Server Rank
💀ik ik
Im downloading global codm now woohoo....
I was searching for your old name mello
my whole team was filled with actual bots
im not even joking
like they were actual bots
and my opponents were all fuckin real
.
Noice
Wym bye noir?
What?
Gg but i gotta go
It had a space after it
i wanna play with u guys :
Garena =/= global 
Also our ping would be murdered
Oh right THAT name
Heh wdym?

Connecting to the other side ofnthe world
One of us would have like 150 ms
Im joining u guys on global tho.
Still my best one 
Bro so what i still got to master on 150ms
The ping will still exist but you can try 💀
Oh 😭
Bet
Does anyone have a good msg to use with a build?
I average like 50
Qq9 build ask mellow
Ok
Btw i dont think we should play rank together for obvious reasons

And also how do I grind Damascus faster?
Hp shipment for everything except snipers and longshots—hp crossfire or highrise for that
We 1v1 :p
Eh just use pdw or an ar atp
Thanks
I dont wanna use pdw
Could try, hopefully id get the bad ping 
Mmm alr
No u use a slow sr i use smg : )
💀
Downloading codm is taking forever :/
xd
L internet moment
What country my guy
Free fire💀
Im back. Also i just remembered another thing i suck at, nerve control and you can see that in 1v1 clearly
Who won?
Technicly noone but realy him
Understandable lol
I just got off since I gtg sleep
How? U left?
Like first 8 kills were so smooth and afterwards my aim went to crap
I barely play trust
Yeah
Im using data
My aim was… something… at first then I fixed it 😭
Yeah we swizched placss lmao
Lmaoo
germany
My aim was so smooth at start and then i got nervous and well
Mello make me proud
Ah du bist Deutsch
nein
Kk💀
I can try
Rly?
lass mal zusammen spielen
Claw sweat is a bit challenging for me
jo
Welp gn
fuckin americans
💀
Sure
xd
Whats your native country then?
vc or no vc
No vc
bruh
My mic is......
"broken"
And i dont like talking while playing
Bc your clan is called balkan
Yes my thoughts are already too much for me
lmfao
i joined a random ass clan cus i wanted the karambit
Real
but it wasnt in the store so idk what to do now
Oh ok. Asking cuz im a balkan
nicee
hop on bruh
wanna grind bp
br*
@bright cloud
can u hear me in vc
im asking if u wanna play br or multiplayer
Nop
Mp i szck at br lmfao
Sure
Abuse meta
so u can hear me
what meta?
How?
Ravage launcher + meta gun
and what is that meta gun exactly?
@bright cloud hang on
I prefer bruen
comni back gimme 2 mins
Okay
S36 goated fr
tf s36?
@bright cloudcan u not hear me?
I hope mg42 is even more broken
bro
yesterday i was sniping a fuckin tank
they were all inside of it
i knocked two, killed one and some random got my ass
average solo squad experience
Im here i just wemt for a minute
My internet cutoff
So im on mobile data
And dont wanna waste it
oooo oke
Give it at least vanguard's version rpm
And make it 19 dmg til inf, slap in some 1.1x hitboxes for funny

so u gonn go?
Yeah
oke
@bright cloud we gucci?

Tf does that mean
Ricey ricey buy mg42
Fund
Lets sell mello
Bro M4 gold Royal is the best
real
@pseudo pawn,
16 Server Rank
any1 br?
NA
eu.
is that a question or a statement
question
idk
@viscid belfry I so sad :/
if you think your good try doing the weapon mastery in ranked only at legendary rank it will humble u fast and the weapon I'm doing is chicom
so pray for my mental health bc I already broke a iPad doing this challenge just of how bad the gun is
it sucks I hate my life
How.
Chicom is strong tho
But without good aim it’s ass ig
No
Use the Assualt knife
They need to make it so u can customise the assault knife HUD icons
Rn it’s useless at least for me
Yo
how do i unlock for free
is there any free assulut knifes?
Trial loadout
there isnt any assult knifes
How to have a good crosshairs placement?
@floral aurora,
16 Server Rank
place them at the chest
your crosshair
Who what to play some rack
Hvk please
So that means on the default hud for two fingers I leave where it’s at already
.
After reaching legendary, you can rebuild season rewards. This season, specifically, has an assault knife at tier 17 on MP rewards.
Oof finally i can get assault knife. Thannks bruder
Thanks
Replace strike with combat and perfect buikd imo
Best dlq build atm?
@fading harness,
6 Server Rank
Thx
irons or holo
Put that AR in the trash bin
There are a lot of guns better than it
But it isnt bad
if you’re talking about burst
then no
if youre talking abt wildfire
then no
Guys what's the best hvk gunsmith
Cuz it isnt good
Large Cal, anything else. Max mobility if you’re aggro, otherwise build for decent ads, mobility and bsa for flex
what about drh
25 OTM i think is still the play, besides that I don’t know cause I don’t run it
Hvk
Overall for 90% I would say hvk
Pros used drh cuz hvk got banned, then drh also got banned later
But drh is just a fundamentally different gun

type 19 or hvk
True
best attachments
Hvk will be best AR until it gets nerfed to no longer 2tap
Or a faster-firing AR starts 2-tapping
Mono
Mip light
Tac laser/strike stock/combat stock
Gran
Large cal
Can also replace laser/stock with rds if you hate the irons
shi
i only got it to level 44 -.-
i cant buy more bundles
theres none in the store
Just trial loadout it
what this thing
Literally using the gun anywhere gets xp
the 10 point bsit says all weapons and attachments will be available after activating
ahhh
that unlocks the full gun
You use 10 points to unlock a weapon and all attachments for it in the trial loadout
You get more points by doing matches iirc, haven’t used trial in a long time
btw srike way better than combat/light
how is it different
Strike also nukes your mobility
That's literally one free loadout
The problem is it still not enough for me. I need like 20 Loadouts or more
best perks to use for HVK?
@pseudo pawn
We dont need more loadouts, we need loadout edit mid match
perks bro not attachments
real asf
Pinpoint
Toughness
Hardline
That's what i use
You’re right it isn’t, I keep forgetting 2tap drh is viable now 




