codm-gunsmith-help

[ruby iris]

I'd run 10mm over 45r if snd

But i rarely get snd

And 45 is good enough

I agree

[vale lichen]

Mag space makes it highly impractical like you said

[bright cloud]

Impractical=/=takes skill

[vale lichen]

I don't want to address my krill issue

[ruby iris]

Read that msg again, slowly

[vale lichen]

Well i should start from top then

[ruby iris]

I'd run 10mm over 45r if snd

[vale lichen]

Oo snd

I don't use smg on snd

Respawns only

Hvk/Drh/Tundra existsss

[rich arch]

I hate the tundra ;-;

[ruby iris]

10mm is fun for like 3 seconds, then you cant use it anymore

[vale lichen]

Best sniper

[ruby iris]

Like you legit run out of ammo before the 2nd hp even starts

[bright cloud]

Again, witg effective tactical reloading and ammo management qq10 is better than qq9

[rich arch]

Ye but some random player camped with it bro ;-;

[ruby iris]

@bright cloud

[bright cloud]

Never happened in my experience

[ruby iris]

[vale lichen]

Tundra is not recommended for hardscopers

[rich arch]

Yk the map crash n theres a big ah tower right?

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 26 Server Rank

[vale lichen]

Me use zrg/hdr for hardscoping

[rich arch]

Do u know it or not. Also ye zrg good

[vale lichen]

A spot top

[bright cloud]

Hardscoping rn generaly sucks anyway

[ruby iris]

It's like
Rush a hp
Get 2-3 kills (-1 mag)
Jump out
Ego chall an ar and waste a mag (-1 mag)
Flank the enemy team and get like another 2-3 kills (-1 mag)
Then 2 mags wasted defending the hp

I always have like a single mag or 2 left by the time the 2nd hp spawns

[rich arch]

Nah brother wasnt hard scoping he place down 2 trips

[vale lichen]

Haven't played this season probably run drh now

[young shale]

I still need to snipe

[vale lichen]

Hvk is missing something

[young shale]

The best sniper i can master now is outlaw

[rich arch]

N as soon as he ran out of trips he js camped the stair case

[ruby iris]

Tundra is recommended for everything
Long breath hold
Low sway
Low flinch
Fast follow up shots

[young shale]

Its the broken jack of all trades

[ruby iris]

Jack of all trades, master of all

[vale lichen]

I mean, you are hard scoping just use hdr for 1shot kill

[young shale]

Im halfway there with mastering all my snipers

[rich arch]

I dislike the tundra js cuz of that camper bro

[young shale]

Thats crazy

[rich arch]

But still gonna use it

[young shale]

Im mastering outlaw rn

[vale lichen]

Crash has too many wall bang spots

Clearing A is simple

[ruby iris]

Slower follow up shots, and tundra has basically the same stability as hdr, without being slow as shit

[rich arch]

N i know none of em prob cuz i js returned after not playing for months

[young shale]

Got some slips with the outlaw but overall its like a bolt action version of xpr

[young shale]

Real fast but 😭 dmg

[rich arch]

True basically locus

[ruby iris]

[young shale]

Nah locus is way much better than outlaw

[vale lichen]

Umm debatable

[bright cloud]

2rnd mid asf

Worst burst smg

[rich arch]

I suck at sniping so i think all snipers dog jkjk

[vale lichen]

*Troll build

[bright cloud]

And not bc of mag size but bc of hitboxes

[ruby iris]

Congratulation, you figured out the joke

[bright cloud]

I know im just commenting while hes there

[ruby iris]

[young shale]

Brah😭

[bright cloud]

I aint that stupid to think 3× scope is a real build lol

[young shale]

I was about to say i im having a debate between m21 and na45 until i realised tundra existed

[swift abyss]

range:kms:

[ruby iris]

Speaking of scopes
Why the fuck does svd have a 5x sniper scope?

[bright cloud]

Wtf

[young shale]

Rare scope

[bright cloud]

Im sorry what

[crimson saddle]

dont use this mag, other one's better

[ruby iris]

Standard scope for svd is 5x like every other sniper

Meanwhile irl it's a 4x scope

[bright cloud]

M21 and na45 are worst snipers in the game

[young shale]

Sry i needed more context basically im mastering every sniper i mastered every sniper except these two

[bright cloud]

Oh

[young shale]

Then i forgot tundra was released

[crimson saddle]

use the original, it works fine

[crimson saddle]

agreed

[bright cloud]

We are speakung irl here

[young shale]

Im struggling over m21 or na45

Both equally ass but one HAS to be better

[bright cloud]

M21 probably

[young shale]

Will i receive more hate if use na or ebr?

[bright cloud]

Na for sure

[crimson saddle]

m21

[young shale]

Aight

[crimson saddle]

na

[young shale]

;-; im ready for the hate comments in ranked

[crimson saddle]

i mean, na works well in nuketown with the proper mag and shit

cuz it explodes and kills the campers

[ruby iris]

The original ingame is 5x

Meanwhile the original irl is 4x

With this specific reticle

Snipers should have different zoom levels

[crimson saddle]

oh, then maybe the codm designers arnt Russian enough yet

[crimson saddle]

uhmm

[ruby iris]

Skill issue

[crimson saddle]

yes

[bright cloud]

Same as qq9>qq10 kekw

[ruby iris]

Svd should have 4x
Tundra should have 5x
Hdr should have 16x

[ruby iris]

I aint switching gun every 5 kills or so

[bright cloud]

If you waste thatvmuch ammo its skill issue

[ruby iris]

I wanna use my own gun

[bright cloud]

How tf can you use nitro emojis from other servers

Doesnt work for me

[vale lichen]

U own that riceyy

[ruby iris]

No

[vale lichen]

He is pro

[ruby iris]

120r of reserve ammo

Vs 200

And rpm difference

[compact lark]

Anyone have good gunsmith for AK117? I never used that gun🤔

[bright cloud]

For me thats enough for anywhere inbetween 12 and 17 kills

[ruby iris]

And aggro players usually spending more ammo

[compact lark]

Just want to try it because I got the prestige one

[ruby iris]

Send spray

Training room is fine

5 30r mag

[bright cloud]

Cant now will a lil later

[crimson saddle]

there are high mobility recc in the gunsmithing-builds, check em out

[ruby iris]

15 kills

[crimson saddle]

congrats

[bright cloud]

Also my aim is wahsed not as good as it once was

Cuz i returned recently

[crimson saddle]

returning wont give you a skill issue, try switching fingers, do 3 or 2

[bright cloud]

Yes it does for my aim

[crimson saddle]

or keep the fingers but change the layout a bit

[bright cloud]

Lost muscle memory for flicks

[bright cloud]

Why tho?

My claw 4 finger layout is what i have usdd since forever

[compact lark]

you just need to keep playing until u get used to ot again

[crimson saddle]

it will build muscle memory, it takes about two days of grinding to get good

[rich arch]

💀

[compact lark]

Changing 4 claws to 2 is a bad decision

[bright cloud]

Again i alreqdy have muscle memory for my hud, not aim tho

I cak still do movement all okay, just that my aim is worse

[compact lark]

Just keep playing, it will come naturally

[crimson saddle]

oh yes, but going 3 from two or 3 from 4 isnt

[rich arch]

i like it on everything since i go on streaks pretty often and spam tf outta my ammo
plus now its free healing

[compact lark]

?

[crimson saddle]

claws im talking about

[compact lark]

2 fingers is noob/stater
3 is basic
4/5 is pro

[rich arch]

lmao what

[compact lark]

So why changing from 4 to 3 or 2

[compact lark]

Yes it is

[bright cloud]

I am 4 so downgraidng is plain stupid in my eyes

[rich arch]

doing multiple fingers doesnt make you "pro"

[bright cloud]

But it allows you to do so much more

[rich arch]

im thumbs and can take out most claw players i come across and im nothing special

[compact lark]

Bro wtf, Im not talking about how good of a player u are,
Im talking about potential
Obviously

[rich arch]

no kidding but it doesnt make you a pro whatsoever

[crimson saddle]

3 is very good, its not basic. i, including the best snipers in codm use 3

[bright cloud]

I think he meant the skill ceiling

[narrow glen]

@crimson saddle, 9 Server Rank

[rich arch]

thumbs doesnt have a noob potential 💀

[compact lark]

bro

[rich arch]

i know the skill ceilings plenty

obviously claw has a higher skill ceiling than thumbs

[bright cloud]

Good claw player will always beat a good thumbs player

[rich arch]

thumbs still has a plenty high bar, although it can be harder to achieve due to multiple buttons with just one thumb

[crimson saddle]

true

[compact lark]

That what Im saying,
How good of a player you are is something else

[rich arch]

well yeah

[bright cloud]

I think thats what he is talking about

[rich arch]

saying 2 fingers = nub is just braindead and insulting though

[bright cloud]

And i know thumbs isnt noob but relatively speaking is the worst one

[compact lark]

But telling to someone who uses 4 finger, to switch to two is stupid asf@a.m.i.

[crimson saddle]

true

[bright cloud]

But def not noob

[rich arch]

no one should switch to thumnbs yeah lol

[compact lark]

So wtf do u want

[bright cloud]

Yeah and where did that come from. My aim sucks not my hud

[rich arch]

simply your statement was 💀

[bright cloud]

Hud muscle memors still there

[compact lark]

Exactly, that what Im saying

[crimson saddle]

pulls out a gun, lmao chill

[bright cloud]

Just not aim

[compact lark]

Lmao Im not mad don't worry, it text so it my look like that

[crimson saddle]

by the way

my codm not counting my kills

i did 32 alone

[rich arch]

yeah, as a person who's only used thumbs and has only been a mobile gamer, im very quick at it and outperform most players still. I can beat good claw players often, but if one is at my level of experience, then they are more likely to win atp

[crimson saddle]

and we lost 31:150

HOW???

[rich arch]

thats hardpoint

it counts time in obj not kills

[crimson saddle]

yes

[crimson saddle]

explain plz

[hearty mango]

Looking for a solid m13 build for mp or recommendations for guns

[rich arch]

the whole point of the mode is the hardpoint that moves around the map every minute or so

you're supposed to stay in it to gain points

if the enemy team enters while you or your teammates are in it, no points are gained for either side

[crimson saddle]

dang, no hard point from now on

[compact lark]

What about the new type19? or drh?

[rich arch]

if its just members of one team in it, then points are gained every second for the one in it

[bright cloud]

Heavy long bartel double stack mag no stock tac laser and granulated

[rich arch]

just hold down the point instead of trying to get kills
unless its already held down, in whih case control the entries or spawns

[bright cloud]

Type 19 better grau besides the recoil bug(inbetween ak117/pk and grau in terms of stats) and drh is good

[compact lark]

Haha yh I agree

Im using the type 19 atm

[hearty mango]

Yes thanks

[bright cloud]

Use hvk lel

Hard to use but best ar in the game for sure

[fading topaz]

anyone got a snd m13 build please?

[rich arch]

use the build sent a few posts ago

or ig

[vale lichen]

Man let me flex

[rich arch]

or tac sup, long barrel, 60 rd mag, no stock or combat stock, and gran or tac laser

[rich arch]

ew aether on a mythic

[vale lichen]

Its simply better

[rich arch]

no

who passes up diamond for ugly ahh aether

diamond grind is mostly bots sure but aether is even easier

[fading topaz]

opalescence is like bootleg diamond

it looks good tho

[austere igloo]

I thought that label belonged to the pixelated aggression (bathroom tile)

that camo is the true bootleg diamond

[vale lichen]

Aether looks better

[rich arch]

no

[vale lichen]

Ysss

[rich arch]

nawr

[vale lichen]

Yessss

[rich arch]

nuh uh

[vale lichen]

Yess

[rich arch]

NO

Tf.

[weary aurora]

horrible sights

[rich arch]

Use holger without rds n see which one worse

[weary aurora]

don’t have to

[rich arch]

Oh dang

Noice i use rds ;-; cuz no holger skin

[dawn verge]

I think a f2p skin was there in strong box

[rich arch]

Uh ok

[dawn verge]

Didnt get tht?

[rich arch]

The skin?

[dawn verge]

Yea?

[rich arch]

Nope : (

[bright cloud]

Use tac fg or tac laser instead of mip light

[rich arch]

Any1 got a switchblade or fennec build

Or a drh build

[chilly wagon]

Anyone got a build for shorty?

Looking at shorty it's remind of 725 from mw 2019

[rich arch]

mono
no stock
tac laser
25 rd otm
gran

[rich arch]

no idea but its trash

[rich arch]

tac sup
extended barrel
tac laser
gran
extended mag

and for fennec,
mono
extended mag
op foregrip
tac laser or gran
extended barrel or red dot

[rich arch]

Ok ty

[rich arch]

Also

Is tac sup, owc marksman,rds,mip strike stock,50round mag good on the lk24

[rich arch]

too slow

use
tac supp or mono
ranger barrel
rds
50 rd mag
no stock or tac laser

even silenced barrel, 50 rd mag, rds, tac laser, and gran has fast asf ads and still a bsa that beams at range and has good damage as well

O ok btw whats a better gun for passive play style lk or drh

[rich arch]

lk

[twilit wolf]

Aether morningstar looks so goofy

[rich arch]

Ok ty

Wow the name is crazy

E

Do i use fennec without rds or do i use rds i cant decide

best fennec gunsmith

?

[tired grove]

Monolithic suppressor
Extended light barrel
Extended mag
Red dot
Operator foregrip

[rich arch]

Why operator foregrip?

[tired grove]

Thats why you are noob

[rich arch]

Oh kk

[ancient elm]

i got something to tell y'all..

@rich arch

[rich arch]

hmm?

[rich arch]

reekoil

[ancient elm]

I went on for my first ranked game in about 2-3 days right

some random guy with a rus nuked in death match and went 31 and 0..

[rich arch]

💀

[ancient elm]

I never get teammates that are good..

[digital needle]

Fennec has no reekoil

[rich arch]

what rank

[ancient elm]

grand master

[rich arch]

erm

bro was next level

[ancient elm]

fr fr

[digital needle]

They should add FFA in ranked lol

[ancient elm]

bro was on demon time

[rich arch]

YESSS MY CAT GOT BORED AND LEFT

[ancient elm]

It's to fast which is why they probably will never add it

[rich arch]

JUST LIKE MY WIFE

I CAN SLEEP NOW

[ancient elm]

ur finnaly set free

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

yo fennec loadout?

[vale lichen]

Wake up

[ancient elm]

your off the chain

[rich arch]

Perk for fennec??????

[rich arch]

Monolithic suppressor
tac laser or gran
Extended mag
Operator foregrip
red dot or extended barrel

[ancient elm]

I use lightweight for faster movement when I use fennec :))

[rich arch]

its 5% faster eh

id take fast recover

[ancient elm]

better than nothing

[digital needle]

lwt / shulker
quick fix / toughness
hardline / Dead silence

[ancient elm]

faster=more chance u live which could also = more kills

[rich arch]

i suppose

why does no one use fast recover bruh

[ancient elm]

I be juking ppl with fennec it's funny asf

[rich arch]

so best perk?????

[ancient elm]

I use it

[ancient elm]

you can't really narrow it down to just one it depends on what kinda player u are

[rich arch]

im aggresive

[rich arch]

ah

[ancient elm]

this is probably your area of expertise @rich arch

[rich arch]

yo mellow help?

fast recover or lightweight i suppose

ight

and the green one

unless you do a lot of hardpoint or dom in which case flak jacket and dauntless are good too

[rich arch]

vulture, ghost, cold blooded

[ancient elm]

I use quickfix for fennec in my opinion

but vulture is good bc the bullets run out fast ASF

[rich arch]

oh right

forgot quick fix lol its great

[rich arch]

yeah and it heals now too

ye

[ancient elm]

wait if heals

did i miss an update..

my noggin is broken bc I don't use it a lot :/

I didn't know vultere heals

[rich arch]

and blue???//

[ancient elm]

dead silence probably

[rich arch]

or hardline

[ancient elm]

If ranked I definitely suggest dead silence with a song

[rich arch]

dead silence for stealth and snd
hardline for hp and dom and maybe tdm and ftl if you can utilize it

[ancient elm]

SMG*

[rich arch]

got added last update

[rich arch]

Ok i actually see why u used operator foregrip

[ancient elm]

my main perks I use in ranked would probably be vultere/quick fix and not very often but ghost and for blue definitely dead silence and for red I use lightweight/sulker/

[rich arch]

yeah fair

[ancient elm]

why did I put lightweight twice

[rich arch]

💀

[ancient elm]

what's the one perk called where u drop a frag grenade when u die

something with a m I just can't remember the name

I been dabbling with that one but it's not very useful unless probably In hardline

[rich arch]

martyrdom

most annoying perk

[ancient elm]

yeah that I'ma go play ranked now

[rich arch]

🫡

fennec is good

but hard asf too controll @rich arch

[rich arch]

yeah thats why its for aggro only

balor

#1 fennec player

????

what ab him?

[clear girder]

mostlty just the flinch

[rich arch]

flinch is unnoticeable

[clear girder]

not true

[rich arch]

Bro u got a .50 gs build

[clear girder]

a dotted fennec has sorta gross flinch

affects the recoil

[forest bay]

Whats is best build for type 19

[vale lichen]

You should have lied mello

You made him the most hated codm player now RIP

[native canopy]

anyone good icr build for br?

[digital needle]

[narrow glen]

@digital needle, 29 Server Rank

[finite violet]

Yo somebody pull up vc

[viscid belfry]

macro mag better

[viscid belfry]

kinda

u can dodge it easily but still dangerous

also wtf is ur nickname

[rich arch]

Fav so far

Still messing with different attachments this one kinda weird to build for me

[fading topaz]

is the asval good? and does anyone have a snd build for it

[keen gazelle]

off meta, better with semi auto rounds

[fading topaz]

ahh alright

[marsh onyx]

Anybody trying to play ranked multiplayer

I’m grand master V

[sharp socket]

I never knew icr cosmos existed

[rich arch]

is balor the #1 fennec player

[keen gazelle]

cringe

[bright cloud]

Add either aa laser/grip barrel for flex or accurate barrel for passive playstyke

[rich arch]

I don’t run lasers

I hate how every half decent read grip on this lowers sprint to fire delay

Stupid piece of shit gun

[crimson saddle]

guys, is it only me, or does Tundra's bullet seem slow and like a tracer round? I mean DLQ's rounds were so quick, that you didn't see them go, but you can see a tundra's round go, and miss too. they are slow.

no?

[bright cloud]

Placebo

[bright cloud]

Cancel stf manualy. Also you can use grip barrel instead of laser for snd

[rich arch]

By sliding right?

[bright cloud]

Sliding jumping or moving the joystick away from the forward position

[rich arch]

Ah nice

Ima try that

[bright cloud]

No need to worry about stf. Thats whs i personlaly wouldnt reccomendt bandit steady stock but razher 7rnd mag or striker foregrip

[viscid belfry]

lol no

[keen gazelle]

no what

[shadow hound]

I'm using this one

[rich arch]

This with fast reload is popular

@digital needle sorry for ping but I’m correct saying that
heavy weight suppressor,
Agile stock
Aim assist laser,
Fast reload mag
Polymer grip
Is a good loadout for type 19 right?

[bright cloud]

For snd replace grip barrel instead of aa. Also for better mobility use accurate grip not lolymer

[pallid coyote]

Please dlq holidays load out

[viscid belfry]

i dont like tap tap guns

ext mag its better

[sinful reef]

Just give it fast ads

[pallid coyote]

I meet good sensitivity

I have spoilt my

[viscid belfry]

tf is that supp name

[pallid coyote]

Idg

[keen gazelle]

faster ttk

just cause you dont like it doesnt mean its bttr

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch striker build smg one

[digital needle]

Of course

[rich arch]

Thank you. Sorry for the ping I just knew you were a more reliable source d then myself

[rich arch]

tac supp
tac laser
45 rd mag
guardian stock? whichever decreases ads speed
and poly barrel? whichever increases range lol

[rich arch]

uhh maybe

[rich arch]

agile stock exists

[rich arch]

hardpoint:

[rich arch]

my best one ever

[rich arch]

💀

[rich arch]

skill issue

[rich arch]

mono sup, marksman barrel, tac laser, extended mag, lightweight trigger

[viscid belfry]

y not mono?

[viscid belfry]

put a anime maid pfp

[rich arch]

if i had nitro i would otherwise my dms would be screwed

[rich arch]

bsa

[viscid belfry]

u rich bro just take the 1 month one

also u can close dms

[viscid belfry]

7% its alot?

the only problem is the recoil

[rich arch]

yeah either poly or stainless steel barrel helps that

[viscid belfry]

stainless

[rich arch]

oh go for that then

[viscid belfry]

poly dont increase recoil

[rich arch]

alr alr i havent used striker since september so i forgot lol

[viscid belfry]

im sooo close to plat smgs

i need tiger camos and sand ones only

[rich arch]

im def not rich 😭 ill need a job before i pay for nitro
also i meant dms with friends yk

[rich arch]

striker is the last one?

[viscid belfry]

for some reason i feel that this gun miss some shots like idk

[viscid belfry]

yes

[viscid belfry]

ah lol

i thought everyone on usa were rich

[rich arch]

nahh

more likely to be than a lot of countries ig but im pretty broke 💀

[rich arch]

niceee

[viscid belfry]

the problem is that my wifi its terrible rn

[rich arch]

might be best to wait then

[viscid belfry]

yes

then ill do sniper and then ar

if u want help me im accepting help

like ill share my acc to u and grind

[tepid wolf]

I’ll help 10 people to earn $40k within 72 hours but you will pay me 10% of your profit when you receive it. Note only interested people should apply, drop a message let’s get started by asking (HOW) telegram @auto_trade_admin

[rich arch]

only one person can log in per acc

at the same time anyway

i havent played cod in 3 days anyway 💀

[viscid belfry]

ik but share i mean me and u can go

only if u want tho

if no its ok

[rich arch]

i mean i literally dont have my phone on me i havent even done any ranked 😭 normally i would

[viscid belfry]

what happend to ur phone

[rich arch]

parents

☠️

[austere igloo]

Why does this build lowkey slap?

[rich arch]

why always soh 😭 i see how its a good build tho

[acoustic jewel]

I don’t find that good

[viscid belfry]

they took ur phone?

[viscid belfry]

soh to tac laser and mag to fast reload one

[rich arch]

yup

[viscid belfry]

lmfao y

[rich arch]

they want me to focus on work more (even though i still finished it on time 💀)

[rich arch]

i would say that but he hates lasers

[viscid belfry]

uh

[viscid belfry]

skill issue

[rich arch]

lol

[viscid belfry]

but y they did it like u 16y

u literally almost a man

[rich arch]

still a minor ig

[viscid belfry]

ye

[rich arch]

i mean i didnt even have the code to my phone unil like august lol

[viscid belfry]

code?

ah

lock screen?

[rich arch]

used to be the only screen i could access

[viscid belfry]

lmfao

L for u then

u cant play on pc?

[rich arch]

in theory

id have to download gameloop and all

[viscid belfry]

whats gameloop

[rich arch]

but uhhh my 2015 macbook might be up in flames

[viscid belfry]

i dont even have a pc or notebook

[rich arch]

emulator
bluestacks bans you lol only gameloop is supported for codm

[viscid belfry]

only a shit device

[rich arch]

dang 💀

[viscid belfry]

y ban?

[rich arch]

this hardly counts as a pc like it can only run minecraft lol

just for school

[rich arch]

codm doesnt support emulators

[viscid belfry]

atleast a good game

[viscid belfry]

y?

[rich arch]

unfair advantages

[rich arch]

yeahh its the only one, glad it can at least run it though

[viscid belfry]

just make a server with emulators only

thats the standard

[rich arch]

well they'll make codm just codm online for pc in the future anyway

[viscid belfry]

nice

[rich arch]

yee

[austere igloo]

Neh

I use gks as passive

& lasers? Pshh, overrated

[rich arch]

its range is too trash for that

and the bsa on that would be too bad for passive

[austere igloo]

it works for me so I don't really see the downside

[rich arch]

fair enough

[austere igloo]

you use what works best for you

[rich arch]

my ul build be like

[austere igloo]

everyone has different playstyles, my gks build is tailored to mine

[ruby iris]

@rich arch

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch

yayyy

[rich arch]

ayyy W

[viscid belfry]

i think ill keep focusing in rankeds rn

[ornate jackal]

You love men

[viscid belfry]

i wanted ping u too but i didnt found any message tho lol

[rich arch]

correct

[rich arch]

alr gl 🙏

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch how many meters r for long shots on snipers

[rich arch]

i forget but its pretty long

like maybe 40m

[viscid belfry]

sheesh

[rich arch]

maybe 30

[viscid belfry]

how much is that lol

[rich arch]

crossfire and highrise are the only decent maps for it

[formal river]

Wwwww

Cgs

[austere igloo]

Longshot on snipers is so…silly

[viscid belfry]

ok

[austere igloo]

Like…it basically forces you to camp lol

[rich arch]

yk in crossfire from spawn a, where its all the cars at the opening of the midde/long route

[austere igloo]

Rust is also good for longshots

[viscid belfry]

i feld it on lmgs

[austere igloo]

But u need to camp

[viscid belfry]

for sniper no ig

[rich arch]

its a bit more than the distance from one of those cars to the house thingy going down fro the left

[austere igloo]

Ye i know it good for lmgs

[rich arch]

100%

[austere igloo]

In rust, yes

Rust can allow longshots but its tricky

[viscid belfry]

type 19 build

[formal river]

That’s the annoying part

It’s so boring

[viscid belfry]

if i got u its not so long

[austere igloo]

My type 19 build

Rds bcoz why not

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch whats ur build for

[austere igloo]

Typical garenian build

[rich arch]

yeah, best to just camp behind a car or in the houses at the far ends of each map

[rich arch]

type or snipers

[viscid belfry]

type

[viscid belfry]

y stock

[rich arch]

sprint to fire delay and strafe speed

[viscid belfry]

hm

[austere igloo]

You haven’t unlocked it?

Why isn’t anyone trying the dmr type 19

[austere igloo]

This shit lowkey beast

[rich arch]

Type 19 itself is trash

[austere igloo]

not trash

just really mid

not good, not bad

super average

[rich arch]

Ok then show me a situation other than br where it would be somewhat viable

[vale lichen]

You know T19 can be used as SKS?

[rich arch]

Oh another gun trying to mimic something that’s already in the game perfect

[rich arch]

i havent been playing

The recent guns are so unoriginal

[rich arch]

lmao what? its better than grau

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

im thumbs

so i couldnt care less

its dmr mode is better than sks though

[vale lichen]

Krill issue

[rich arch]

i can still beat you no doubt

[strong monolith]

It is really strong but is very difficult to use because of how slow the fire rate is

[vale lichen]

Yes because the game will choose your server and give me 120ms

[austere igloo]

fair

[rich arch]

id probs get the bad ping

[vale lichen]

Iron itself speaks

[rich arch]

and win anyway

[vale lichen]

No

[austere igloo]

type19 irons is...just...why

[rich arch]

id beat you on any ping

[austere igloo]

idk if the lk24 base irons or the type19 irons

[rich arch]

t19 way better

[vale lichen]

Thats why i won't 1v1 u

[strong monolith]

But the base gun is definitely a top tier weapon
Its essentially a Grau with stronger multis, slightly faster fire rate, and BO attachments
Only downside is that you HAVE to use a laser

[austere igloo]

I ditched my laser for rds though

[rich arch]

skill issue

[austere igloo]

is that still good?

[vale lichen]

Ping issue

[rich arch]

if you were NA you'd still duck

[strong monolith]

Not terrible but you will need that BSA

[rich arch]

its easy to get past laser dow sides anyway

[vale lichen]

Me betterrrrr

[rich arch]

nawr

[vale lichen]

Yesss

[rich arch]

have you fought bryan before

[vale lichen]

Noo

[rich arch]

sunny?

Any1 got a cbr build

[vale lichen]

Me don't 1v1 anyone

[rich arch]

the pdw

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

skill issue

[austere igloo]

no

[rich arch]

. Build?

K

[vale lichen]

*krill issue

[rich arch]

nawr

[vale lichen]

Krill

[rich arch]

mono
tac laser
gran
combat stock
extended or marksman barrel

Ok gonna go spend my xp cards brb

[tawny isle]

why does swagger always downvote every build lmao

i wonder what his builds are

[rich arch]

True

[austere igloo]

who is swagger?

[rich arch]

Is the bizon good?

[austere igloo]

How’s this then? @strong monolith

ads speed is gone but at least I have bsa

[strong monolith]

That is a pretty good build yeah

[rich arch]

easiest gun

[rich arch]

gunsmith pass denied

[tawny isle]

that is tough

[tawny isle]

check who downvoted my latest build

bro doesnt even have any roles wtf

why was his pass denied anyway

[austere igloo]

his pass was denied?

[tawny isle]

according to ami yeah

bro was prob trolling

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

if he's trolling then ye he deserves to be pass denied

[digital shell]

Does anyone have a good class for the artic 50?

[austere igloo]

unfortunately no

[ornate jackal]

Who called cutie patootie ami?

Bro identity is a cute girl not ami

[tawny isle]

fr

[digital needle]

Max Ads + Stopping power

[tawny isle]

stopping pwr is not viable now apparently

with mobility debuffs and whatnot

[rich arch]

So yes or no

[chrome sundial]

Yesn't.
Yes if you're new to the game, no if you're not.

[digital needle]

-5% ads speed penalty worth it for better hitbox

[tawny isle]

*grau

[tawny isle]

bet

i guess its the same as the locus owc rounds

[digital needle]

Exactly same

[tawny isle]

alright thanks

[rich arch]

even easier than grau

[rich arch]

its pretty good

[digital needle]

Rpd cooling compressor

Most brain-dead gun ever exist

[chrome sundial]

200 round mag better

[rich arch]

Im washed so?

[chrome sundial]

I have no idea what washed means in this case.

[rich arch]

Bruh

Js give me a good gun to use atp.

[chrome sundial]

Bruh indeed

[dawn verge]

fs

[chrome sundial]

It differs from person to person but I'll give you my personal favourites.
Lk, kilo, hvk, Holger, qq9, and switchblade

[dawn verge]

cbr4, ak47, m13, dingo, em2, tundra, dlq

the list goes on

[rich arch]

Gimme a switch build

[rich arch]

People say cbr4 aint good bro wtf

[dawn verge]

r u kidding me? cbr is one of the best smg in the game

it was buffed last to last season

and it has 3 p2w skins

[chrome sundial]

Ext light barrel, steady stock/ combat stock, gran tape, tac suppressor, ext mag a

[tawny isle]

no it wasnt what

[dawn verge]

it was

nvm

[tawny isle]

its still good though

not the best thats fs

[dawn verge]

i didnt say it was the best

i said it was one of the best

like there r other guns better than it but cbr comes top 10 list

[austere igloo]

Sorry but that’s false

[tawny walrus]

CBR hasn’t been buffed for months.

[austere igloo]

Cbr isn’t in top 10

[dawn verge]

thts wht the youtubers said

[ruby iris]

Cbr is viable

[austere igloo]

Which youtubers?

[dawn verge]

maybe the dude is dumb or smt

[tawny walrus]

Let me guess - Ferg?

[austere igloo]

Unless its path exe I do not consider it legit

[dawn verge]

idk not anyone like ferg not tht famous

[ruby iris]

Like you can use it

[dawn verge]

some random dude

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

Then its not legit

[dawn verge]

fr

[rich arch]

Combat stock?

[austere igloo]

Screw that

[dawn verge]

maybe i shud switch to ferg's channel

[austere igloo]

Nope

You shouldn’t

[dawn verge]

whos a good utuber then?

[austere igloo]

Path.exe

[ruby iris]

I used cbr a few matches ago, it aint dogshit unusable dirt water

[austere igloo]

That doesn’t make it top 10 tier

[dawn verge]

hmm alr ig lemme check his channel out

[ruby iris]

It's like a worse pdw

[austere igloo]

Not his, theirs

[rich arch]

YEAH

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 27 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

Path.exe is run by more than 1 person

[rich arch]

Still tho not that good

[ruby iris]

And pdw is like a worse groza

[dawn verge]

ikr pdw and groza r soo bad

i am kind of sad tht they r putting groza in the ranked rewards this season

[ruby iris]

Bro is not paying attention

[austere igloo]

Pdw isn’t even bad lmfao wtf

[ruby iris]

Groza isnt either

[austere igloo]

Groza isn’t bad per se but it’s def outclassed by many ars

[dawn verge]

fr

but groza has a bad ironsight

[ruby iris]

Groza is like high a
And pdw is like low a

[austere igloo]

If anything rn the pdw is better than cbr

Groza is well…groza

[dawn verge]

got a good gunsmith for it?

[ruby iris]

My guy switched team after 1 message

[dawn verge]

nah i am saying groza isnt bad but its ironsight is

[austere igloo]

Ext barrel
Mono supp
Light stock
Soh
Granulated

[ruby iris]

Groza is a good smg

[dawn verge]

thx

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

I don’t even know if it qualifies as an smg

It feels like a poor man’s grau

[ruby iris]

Shit range
Fast mobility
Nice ttk

[rich arch]

Ricey u got a lk24 build?

[austere igloo]

No stock
Ext mag
Tac Laser
Granulated
Optic/mono supp

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
Ranger barrel
50r mag
Gran
No stock/strike stock

It isnt meant to be fast

[chrome sundial]

I meant light stock

[rich arch]

Ok

[hoary flare]

which barrel to put for em2

tf barrel or ranger?

[digital needle]

Task force

[hoary flare]

ight

[digital needle]

Great build

However .. with integrated grip, your Laser is exposing all time

They literally know where i am when holding corner in Hardpoint

[sweet flower]

cygnoux

[dawn verge]

hmm okay

[digital needle]

Bobby the bot

Aqua simp too

[dawn verge]

oh yea love aqua simp

and parker the slayer

they make quite a duo

[digital needle]

[rich arch]

Im so bored

[dawn verge]

fr

[unreal gale]

looks like a horse

[dawn verge]

lmao

[rich arch]

you can build it fast and it still beams

[ruby iris]

Less beam than a slow build

[rich arch]

integral suppressor barrel, red dot, 50 rd mag, tac laser, and gran is a very nice combo

[ruby iris]

And less fast than a fast gun

[rich arch]

no way

still a great gun to run fast/balanced

its ttk in close range is pretty good, obv not smg tier but good

and you have zero recoil, good damage ranges, and great bsa

so

or if you have a leggy for it then you can run ranger and tac/mono with no stock

[dawn verge]

fs

[limber peak]

Type 19 plz?

[weary aurora]

I’m currently using this, don’t know how good it is though might need a build myself

But I don’t intend to keep using the gun if I don’t like the battle pass blueprint

[dawn verge]

Muzzle: Tactical Suppressor
Barrel: Accurate / Supportive Long Barrel
Stock: Agile Stock
Ammunition: Fast Reload Mag
Rear Grip: Polymer Grip
The Tactical Suppressor hides your location on the mini-map when firing, while the Accurate / Supportive Long Barrel boosts damage range, bullet speed, and reduces vertical recoil. Pairing the Agile Stock with the Polymer Grip compensates for lost ADS speed and enhances hit flinch, improving your chances in face-to-face gunfights.

[dawn verge]

u can use mine if u want

[weary aurora]

sure I guess just hope it doesn’t include any lasers ik that AA laser is good but lasers ain’t for me

[dawn verge]

no lasers

[weary aurora]

alright then

[dawn verge]

the loadout i gave is automatic one

do u prefer automatic or semi automatic

[bright cloud]

Inzegral barrel bad

[bright cloud]

There are 10 type 19 builds. What do you want from type 19?

[digital needle]

Good

[dawn verge]

fs

[digital needle]

I've tested tons of different builds

These 3 builds are my favourite

[bright cloud]

Literally isnt

Using i tegrated is so limiting

Cuz barrel and suppresor are the two most important attachments when building the t19

No good t19 build has neither suppressor or barrel(acczrate or grip)

Integral just sucks

[bright cloud]

Also steady stock is way too slow even for passive build. Instead use aa laser instead of grip and agile stock

[rich arch]

its for aggro

has good ads and strafe speed

[bright cloud]

Carbine better for aggro

[rich arch]

you have to add a suppressor on top

whichll make it slower and waste a slot

also carbine is -25% range 💀

[bright cloud]

First of all you shluldnt even go aggro on t19 and if im gonna go aggro ima go full in with carbine. Both suck ass anyway

[rich arch]

carbine isnt full in. if you want silencing itll end up slower, and with way worse penalties

and t19 is fine for aggro, with that build it slays and still has good flexibility

[digital needle]

U should listen to other player's opinion and accept it.

Is that mean if putting Intergal suppressor barrel on other gun you're gonna kick me off ?

Absolutely negative gunsmith knowledge

[bright cloud]

This becomes a personal opinion of do you want a suppressor on aggro weapon? I personally find it useless as im constantly moving and opponents get lost track of me. If you wanna suppresion integral is betzer aggro option then yeah

[rich arch]

well same but i do snd a bit so i prefer to be prepared

and tdm its good for as well, not so much for hp where you just hear molotovs

[bright cloud]

Then yeah i can see why you prefer integral.

[bright cloud]

Even im tdm, imo its too fast paced for opponents to track you down

[rich arch]

ehh not in the games where everyone camps

[bright cloud]

I will accept others opinion if its based on personal preference(like do you rly wanna suppresion on aggro, do you need more handling or mobility etc.) but integral is def not the way to go with t19, statisticly speaking

[rich arch]

yup, im not saying its the only good attachment, but its a good one for aggro

[bright cloud]

Like nuketown? Then ye

[rich arch]

literally what i had in mind lmao

[bright cloud]

Nuketown in bo super fast paced map

Nuketown in codm:........camp

[rich arch]

yup

[bright cloud]

Negative gunsmith knowledge? How is opinion and gunsmith knowledge connected first of all and second of all on most guns if not always there is a better option than going integral

[rich arch]

ftl nuketown is one of the worst possible things

[bright cloud]

Ftl in general is way too campy

Where as tdm feels more balanced cuz you can manipulate spawns

[bright cloud]

9/10 times speed flex t19 is better than aggro t19

[rich arch]

yeah, only plus of ftl is no spawn flips so its easy

if i manage to get a good hold on the enemy spawn i can easily drop choppers and stuff

[rich arch]

yeah depends on the player
just heavyweight supp is a great flex build and may be what ill run

[bright cloud]

Speed t19 us cronen shark agile stock accurate grip heavyweight sup and fast mag

[narrow glen]

@bright cloud, 16 Server Rank

[rich arch]

i havent been playing lately so training ground and stat sheets only say so much, both seem great for me so maybe ill just use up two loadouts lol

[rich arch]

no aa laser?

[bright cloud]

Slower ads time and skightly slower mobility then aggro t19 but actualy is usable in ling ranges

[bright cloud]

Aa laser for true flex build. This is speed build or what i think as the true aggro replacement

[rich arch]

hm alr

[bright cloud]

Like this build just makes integ and carbine useless imo

[rich arch]

intregral with aa laser should have like 40m of effective range

maybe 30

[rich arch]

downsides to carbine are just too harsh for anything imo, like drifter on grau

[bright cloud]

Yeah

Just use speed fled build for similar effect while not being limited

Ir just use groza and maddox at that point

[rich arch]

groza sights 💀

not a fan
maddox is fun though, also isnt it automatically silenced?

[bright cloud]

Only with inezgral barrel which is ofc suboptimal when ef exists

[bright cloud]

Idk all sights are usabke for me

[rich arch]

krig?

[bright cloud]

Never found myself needing rds

[bright cloud]

I use base krig

No rds

[rich arch]

...

props to that

[bright cloud]

Lol i just dont find irons as distractinf as people make ot out to be

[rich arch]

Gimme a gun to use

[bright cloud]

What playstyle and range?

[rich arch]

i mean i can barely see as is so trying for a headglitch at 30m with ironsights krig is just dooming me instantly

[rich arch]

Whatever i js wanna get my mind off something

[bright cloud]

Use ffar takedown agency suppresor bandit steady stock stanag 44rnd and firm grip

[rich arch]

No snipers or sg n marksman tho

[rich arch]

Ai bet

My phone 8% gonna use that when i charge my phone

[rich arch]

takedown user 🤝

ffar is a great gun fs though for some reason i suck with it

[bright cloud]

Ofc anyone who says otherwise looks at stat bars jk jk

Jokes aside takedown is sinply better than tfb

[rich arch]

fs

who turns down 50% range at no penalty

[rich arch]

Wasnt it popular for like 1-3months then nobody used it but thats my experience

[bright cloud]

Here is a bit of friwndly advice, dont trust what ranke warriors pros and yt ccs use

[rich arch]

I dont

[bright cloud]

Ffar is goated rn

[rich arch]

I use to not anymore

[bright cloud]

Along with pk and m13

[rich arch]

I dont see any1 use it maybe cuz im low rank

[rich arch]

its still the best aggro/flex ar i think

[bright cloud]

Its just better grau

[bright cloud]

Yeah

[rich arch]

yeah just harder to use

[rich arch]

Dang

[bright cloud]

Unlike pk which is marginaly harder to use

[bright cloud]

I would say otherwise cuz first 5 shots have no recoil

[rich arch]

aim shake, and sights for some

i need to try it again soon

[bright cloud]

Sights and aim shake are considered bad? Wow

[rich arch]

Wait why do people not use owc marksman on the hvk

[rich arch]

yeah its pretty shaky

theres a reason its not common despite the stats, its just hard to use in comparison to other meta guns

[bright cloud]

Its one of the reccomended builds(by people who know ab stats)

[rich arch]

kills movement speed, and bsa on the hvk is already great

but a lot do run it for more passive playstyles due to the range and recoil buffer

[bright cloud]

Mono mip loght combat stock lc gran

This is the way

[rich arch]

yeah thats what i use

[bright cloud]

That build makes most sense

Whats the bsa on that build again?

[rich arch]

uhh ik with tac laser instead of combat its like 16

probably 19 or so with combat instead

[bright cloud]

So 6.7 bsa apoints at 40m

That is actualy kinda dissapointing

Thought it was more

[rich arch]

uhh for three bsa decreasing attachments thats great

swapping combat for tac laser is barely slower and keeps a lot tighter bsa though

[bright cloud]

Lemme check smth

[bright cloud]

11 initial with tac laser mono mip kight combat stock and lc

That is 8.43 bsa points at 40m

So first few bullets ate guaranteed to hit

[rich arch]

oh initial

i mean in overall

[bright cloud]

I checked both

But like if we say hvk has 4 taper than yeah first 2 shots at 40m are guaranzeed to hit

[rich arch]

Abuse DR-H rn before it gets nerfed. 😒

[rich arch]

hoping it gets nerfed ngl its everywhere

[rich arch]

yeah ik id go by normal bsa though since its easy to miss shots + you have to fire a good few to kill at range

I’ve been stomping with it. Bad.

[bright cloud]

Better yet abuse em2

[rich arch]

I don’t like em-2 because I don’t have the mythic one.

Can always rely on the Dr.

em2 base sights are just abominable yeah lol, mythic is busted though

since i dont have it i use asm10

I feel it. The drh is just too good rn. The sights goated, mobility goated, damage range goated. I be 2 tapping cross map. It’s disgusting.

[rich arch]

literally everything about it is good lol

seems as powerful as hvk at times, and easier to use fs

That 25 round not so good 😂

[ruby iris]

Abuse mg42

[rich arch]

true

Can I put a pic in here of a smith?

Or do I gotta level up too? 😒

[rich arch]

no that you can do

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 69 Server Rank

[rich arch]

#┃server-media-passes

select gunsmith pass on the first thing that shows up

[rich arch]

[narrow glen]

Your roles on this server do not allow you to use the AI commands.

Reach out to the server owner to know how to get an ai-authorized role or Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature with a personal plan.

[bright cloud]

25rnd otm better than 30rnd

Cuz no downsides is goated

[rich arch]

Yeah just no rounds 💀

[rich arch]

keeps it balanced

imagine if it has 100 rds

[rich arch]

use 38 rd mag

[inland jolt]

Can yall please give me the best m4 build for mp

[rich arch]

I got you. Try this. One sec.

[inland jolt]

Sowa the 🐐

[rich arch]

Or stippled grip tape. Whatever you prefer.

I like bulletspread.

stippled is a big nono

massive downside for an almost imperceptible upside

Some people like it.

I don’t personally but some people do.

[rich arch]

@inland jolt

[inland jolt]

Tactical is good ?

[rich arch]

Yes

[rich arch]

It’s fine. Mono too negative. That’s what the barrel is for

or swap to mono and replace the barrel with tac laser

I don’t use laser anymore. Gets me killed. 😒

That build a laser beam. It’s crazy

im too aggro to care ab lasers lol

[vale lichen]

30otm is ok that penalty is competitively less

And using no stock negates it

Still 25 otm is preferred for snd

[bright cloud]

I think extra mag size isnt worth penalties when you have 25rnd otm with no penalties. Trading 5 bullets for extra mobility is kinda cheap in my eyes

[vale lichen]

Well depends sometimes that 5bullets helps

[golden summit]

Thundra attachments?

[ebon rock]

Cordite attachment for fast paced gameplay

[rich arch]

I cant find firm grip

[rich arch]

Ima also run this

[bright cloud]

Do you wallbang often?

[bright cloud]

Fucking black ops names

[ruby iris]

Mayhaps

[bright cloud]

Serpent wrap and and 44rnd salvo not stanag

[golden summit]

[hoary flare]

anything to change

[feral gorge]

What if you want wallbang

[rich arch]

Use agile stock
Use quickdraw grip