codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

Same ttk just a bit harder to use

[ruby iris]

So oden isnt peak

[rich arch]

It is if you can aim

[ruby iris]

It isnt, cuz why would you pick the harder option

[rich arch]

Like I tried hvk vs oden and though hvk was great, oden just does so much better for me

[rich arch]

Easier for me ngl

[ruby iris]

S36 vs oden

[rich arch]

Ik the differences

[ruby iris]

If s36 is peak then oden isnt

[rich arch]

S36 is easier to use
I do better with oden

[ruby iris]

If oden is peak then s36 is a tier above

[rich arch]

Logik

Same ttk so both are peak
And mags both last a while

[ruby iris]

But one is harder to use

[rich arch]

Depends on the player

[ruby iris]

And disable

[rich arch]

Hmm good point there never tried disable in br

[rich arch]

Mrau

Mehehehe

I do better with oden than any other gun, even s36, but thats just personal preference. However, statistically, it is peak

[ruby iris]

No, s36 is objectively easier, you have the luxury of missing, and you will, at that distance

[rich arch]

If youre going for extreme distance then oden is easier to control tbh

[ruby iris]

Remove the player's skill from the equation

[rich arch]

Just use a sniper at that point anyways

[ruby iris]

Skill creates bias

[rich arch]

S36 is better for most yes

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

But oden is still peak

[ruby iris]

No

[rich arch]

Ntm it has a mythic

So for those with the mythic its definitely peak

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Had a friend share it with me and holy crap it slaps

Hes legit a lb s36 br player so I could ask him too

[ruby iris]

S36 > oden, if oden is peak then s36 is a tier above that

It's not hard to understand

[rich arch]

Eh wtv its personal choice

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

.

[rich arch]

I think I might just love the oden idk

[ruby iris]

We're removing any personal preference here

[rich arch]

Even in mp I like it a lot

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Aight aight

[ruby iris]

And speaking only stats

[rich arch]

Oden sights vs s36 sights though

[ruby iris]

Holo 2 on both

With blue dot

[rich arch]

Nahhh dont put a sight on the oden

[ruby iris]

1.1x zoom

[rich arch]

That sight is super clean

[ruby iris]

On holo 2

[rich arch]

Yup ik

I tried a red dot and it worked very similarly to irons I couldnt tell a performance difference

[sharp violet]

Is this for br or mp

[rich arch]

Br

If it was mp then ☠️☠️

Imagine sks in decent tier in mp

[jovial spruce]

Sks is overrated

[austere igloo]

BR

[austere igloo]

you're right

as val fmj mag is where it's at

[strong monolith]

Yeah I was too lazy to find an image of it with a skin

[oak gulch]

Hs405 build?

[austere igloo]

I do have an image of a ebr skin

if you want one

[rich arch]

best gunsmith for m13 ?

[strong monolith]

Nah its fine

[worthy grail]

Bruh

[austere igloo]

whut? it's better than sks

[worthy grail]

Different

I can’t get used to the val recoil for shit

Sks is also better at range

Less flinch

[austere igloo]

Uhhh not exactly

[ornate jackal]

How do u feel about the amax m67 round

[shadow briar]

slower movement, ads and fire than val for 6m more 1tap range and sprint to fire

just not worth imo

[austere igloo]

Meh

M67 amax is prolly the worst out of the semi autos

[ornate jackal]

Rip

[austere igloo]

Sks & as val fmj are leagues ahead of it

[shadow briar]

its in between val and sks. if you want fast run val if you want range run sks

[austere igloo]

I don’t really use semi-autos unless I’m trolling people

[vale lichen]

I don't know why i don't use as val

[austere igloo]

maybe because you're biased toward it

Wtf is this?

4x scope on a kar98k? U kidding me

[rich arch]

Magik

That's what we call acoustism

[austere igloo]

& he even has damascus on it💀💀

[rich arch]

Probs trolling

(most likely)

Once mfs get Damascus they just troll

[austere igloo]

Bro won the match with this

[rich arch]

Just as I thought

[austere igloo]

He was going up against dlq sweats & shit

[rich arch]

No sweat can beat the sheer will power of a camo grinder 💀🙏

[austere igloo]

Fr

That includes the diamond grinders too

[rich arch]

Yuh

[clear girder]

😨

[worthy grail]

?

[vale lichen]

Kilo gentleman slays

[solid holly]

Anyone have a switchblade build

[wintry abyss]

mono suppressor, extended light barrel, light stock, gran tape and extended mag

[rich arch]

Bots twice in a row tf

💀🙏

bot are just easy rank grind lmfao

bouta hit leggy sub 80 matches if this keeps happening

[shadow hound]

indeed

but there is no fun on playing against bots

[jovial spruce]

Lmao

[shadow hound]

after hitting leggy you don't find bot lobbies anymore but it takes longer to find matches

[jovial spruce]

I once had to go against bots for 5-6 matches

[shadow hound]

it's so boring

[jovial spruce]

Yep

And I hate the codm ai

Its so bad

[shadow hound]

In BR there are like 4 players squads and the rest are bots

[jovial spruce]

Yep

That's why I never play br

[shadow hound]

you walk through the entire map without finding anyone to shoot

[jovial spruce]

Shits borin'

[shadow hound]

i used to think the same

[jovial spruce]

Eh

[shadow hound]

but recently i've been playing br with some random squads and the battles for airdrops and stuff are kinda fun

[jovial spruce]

Welp happy you're havin' fun

[shadow hound]

also alcatraz when you find real players is very fun too

[jovial spruce]

But br ain't for me

[shadow hound]

but ye most part is boring

[jovial spruce]

Eh I mean I just play snipers challenge or whatever if I wanna rank up in br

Nobody plays that piece of garbage

It's free xp

[shadow hound]

it would be fun if it wasn't full of bots

[wispy latch]

Can someone give me kilo loadout

[jovial spruce]

Sure

Let me grab mine

[shadow hound]

tactical supressor
ocw marksman barrel
extended mag b
granulated grip tape or ocw tactical laser
no stock

[wispy latch]

Ty

[jovial spruce]

Oh

I personally use monolithic suppressor

[wispy latch]

What are the diffrence

[shadow hound]

yeah you can use it to increase the range but the ads gets slower

[jovial spruce]

Monolithic suppressor gives you more range

It also reduces your accuracy

But kilo has a large mag

[rich arch]

@jovial spruce so far so good

[jovial spruce]

That's why I use it

[wispy latch]

I am used to smgs short range fast aiming so I'll stick with tactical

[jovial spruce]

Oof grandmaster lobbies are hell

Goodluck

[rich arch]

fym

they're just free 💀

[wispy latch]

Bro gm is super easy

[shadow hound]

fr

[wispy latch]

Game becomes hard at leggy

[rich arch]

literally ain't nobody killing me

[rich arch]

game becomes hard at comp*

[wispy latch]

Trye

[rich arch]

leggy ain't none

[wispy latch]

True

[trim night]

Can someone give a gunsmith to get long shots with the shorty?

[jovial spruce]

Legendary lobbies are easy af

[shadow hound]

i'm at leggy 10k points and it's a hell

[rich arch]

put the average rank warrior vs a lt3 player and the lt3 will probs shit on him

[rich arch]

stack range bsa and put slugs

simple as that

[jovial spruce]

Tbh even when I was at 15k it still wasn't a challenge

[trim night]

Alr thanks

[wispy latch]

Well I just came back to the game and reached legendary in 4 days from bronze so it's kinda hard for me

[jovial spruce]

Like I deliberately had to handicap myself to even have fun

Hmm maybe it's a regional thing

[rich arch]

me asf
using hades for shits and giggles and somehow dropping 60 💀

[shadow hound]

well, i play with 60 fps and when my phone heats up it starts dropping fps

[jovial spruce]

Bruh

[shadow hound]

also i don't use meta guns

[jovial spruce]

I would troll the lobby with the na45

[wispy latch]

I speedruned legendary in 4 days and now game is kinda hard

[rich arch]

not really
na is weird and sweaty
eu is just sweaty for no reason whatsoever
asia is just mid (i played with friends from there and dominated with 90ms)

[wispy latch]

And last time I played a game on mobile was like 3 years ago

Ig the valorant reaction speed helps

[jovial spruce]

Wdym eu is super chill

[rich arch]

na is chill for me
eu is chill for you

[shadow hound]

sometimes i play against pro players

[rich arch]

and idfk why

[jovial spruce]

Yeah na is weird

[shadow hound]

it's so hard to compete

[jovial spruce]

Use a sniper

[rich arch]

whenever i play with na friends and i'm on their server it's easy shit
whenever they play on mine it's easy shit for them

and it's just confusing ash ngl

[jovial spruce]

Yeah

[rich arch]

wanna run a couple?

[jovial spruce]

Nah I just got off

[rich arch]

in like a bit cause i wanna drink some tea

[rich arch]

same 😔 🙏

[wispy latch]

Just tested it the aiming time is so slow compared to smgs ik its good but NGL I'll just go back to the fennec cuz i don't think I'll be able to play with it

[rich arch]

@jovial sprucebtw costum crosshairs hit diff

[jovial spruce]

Lmao kilo is not for everyone

[jovial spruce]

I bet

[rich arch]

like shi decided to download one for the funi

and it be shreddin

[wispy latch]

I am used to fast fire rate fast aiming and fast run

[rich arch]

then use smgs lil bro

[wispy latch]

I am Main fennec

[rough wasp]

hi

[rich arch]

just run a mac and stfu

[jovial spruce]

I think they're banned tho

[shadow hound]

you can switch marksman barrel for ranger to increase ads speed while keeping control and accuracy. but tbh kilo is a medium range weapon for passive players, so ads speed doesn't matter much

[rich arch]

nah

[wispy latch]

Just thought I should give ar a try

[jovial spruce]

Eh you should give the ffar a try

[shadow hound]

m13 is nice too

[wispy latch]

I don't play long or medium range and I rush

I like agressieve

[jovial spruce]

I can never get a kill with the m13

It's like a curse I physically can't

[rich arch]

ngl the only reason ion like the ffar is the low ammo capacity
i need them 50+ rounds for my dogshit aim 😭

[shadow hound]

then you should try the ffar, m13, ak117

[jovial spruce]

Lmao yeah the mag on that thing is trash

[shadow hound]

i love that gun

[jovial spruce]

But I can aim so it's not a problem for me

[wispy latch]

Mabye but not now since I just spent 800 XP cards to upgrade kilo and that hurts

[shadow hound]

peashooter guns are my favorites

[jovial spruce]

Huh

[shadow hound]

fast fire rate, low damage

[jovial spruce]

Tbh I don't know why people even use the dlq

Koshka is just better

It's faster more accurate and the animations are nice too

[wispy latch]

My fennec is
Monolith suppressor
Mip extended light
Rtc steady
Operator foregrip
Extended mag a

For me it's really good

[jovial spruce]

Fennecs iron sight is really ugly

[shadow hound]

fr

[wispy latch]

I am used to it

I went from bronze to legendary with it

[jovial spruce]

I like used it for a season

[shadow hound]

i have that fennec blueprint from the heist bp so the iron sight isn't that bad

[jovial spruce]

Lucky

[shadow hound]

there are some iron sights that are pure garbage

[wispy latch]

My operator thing is the K9 I use Molotov and smoke and score streak are missile stealth chopper ant votl

[shadow hound]

like the lk24

[jovial spruce]

Krigs iron sight for example

[wispy latch]

Mainly domination mode

[jovial spruce]

Ugh I just can't get over how bad that thing is

[shadow hound]

use the equalizer operator skill, it's so damn op

[jovial spruce]

Yeah equalizer is pretty underrated

[wispy latch]

My perks are the gernade one quick fix and the faster scorestrecks

[jovial spruce]

Also I prefer the gas grenade over smoke

[wispy latch]

Scorestreak

[shadow hound]

fast ttk, high amount of bullets, and the duration makes it op

[hybrid cedar]

any good Ul build?

[wispy latch]

Well K9 can kill inside smokes and while I am caping cuz i play domination

[jovial spruce]

Yeah there is one in the other gunsmithing server

[hybrid cedar]

the one by a mellow inferno?

[jovial spruce]

Yeah

[shadow hound]

I use equalizer, frag grenade and flashbang, UAV, sentry gun and stealth chopper. The perks i use are the light weight, quick fix and hardline. I don't play SnD, so these are what fits better my playstyle.

[hybrid cedar]

it has a dislike ratio but i’ll try

[jovial spruce]

Inferno is a pretty trustworthy guy

[jovial spruce]

Don't use lightweight

It's garbage

[shadow hound]

i use for the movement speed

[jovial spruce]

Use flak jacket or martyrdom

[wispy latch]

I just like things that can kill for me while I cap or clear the way for me

[jovial spruce]

The movement bonus it gives is minimal at best

Dauntless is pretty good too

[shadow hound]

I never die to explosives so I don't think i need flak jacket

[narrow glen]

@shadow hound, 14 Server Rank

[shadow hound]

i could use it to reduce the damage from molotovs when i'm holding the hp

but i can just use a trophy system instead

[paper palm]

Hey guyz, can you suggest a good dlq build that is quick yet very much accurate. I mean like aggressive and Fast Ads at the same time????

[jovial spruce]

Sure

[shadow hound]

wtf is wrong with me, i'm misspelling everytime

[hybrid cedar]

matrydom would be good for hp if u die

[paper palm]

@jovial spruce thanks

[shadow hound]

nah i need lightweight to boost my speed when i'm using the equalizer

[quasi agate]

Any ak117 good builds

[jovial spruce]

Mip light
Owc tac laser
Fast switch
Owc light suppressor
Fast switch or fmj

[jovial spruce]

Tbh just use the koshka

It's faster and more accurate

[shadow hound]

i can streak very easy with equalizer

[paper palm]

@jovial spruce Ok

[narrow glen]

@paper palm, 1 Server Rank

[paper palm]

I usually use locus, but now I'm trying the DLQ

[shadow hound]

i think i'm gonna switch lightweight for that perk that boosts the operator recharge time

[jovial spruce]

Eh

[shadow hound]

idk if it's worth it

[jovial spruce]

I wouldn't recommend that

[shadow hound]

imma test it soon

[paper palm]

Lightweight is a pretty useful perk if you wanna prioritize movement speed

[jovial spruce]

Locus is just a worse dlq which it self is a worse koshka

[jovial spruce]

Flak jacket is a must if you play snd

[paper palm]

That was a whole lot of comparison!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[shadow hound]

i don't play snd anymore lol

[paper palm]

I absolutely avoid SND 🤣🤣🤣

[shadow hound]

only with a full team

[jovial spruce]

The only advantage that the locus has is its fire interval

[paper palm]

I last played SND when my lvl. was like 15

[jovial spruce]

And I guess the dlq has better wallbanging abilities but still

I wouldn't recommend sniping in respawns

[paper palm]

Too much sneaky gameplay, I just play casual, so SND is definitely not my play style

[narrow glen]

@paper palm, 2 Server Rank

[shadow hound]

i'd play snd if wasn't those random dudes running like bots around the map

[paper palm]

I usually don't snipe, but sometimes I try

Though I'm just a noob with a Sniper

[jovial spruce]

Man

[paper palm]

I'm sure, I was one of those random dudes, bro

[ornate jackal]

Is it tho

[jovial spruce]

Yes

[ornate jackal]

Just dont die to c4 ez

[paper palm]

What so you think about Kinetic??? It's pretty handy

[jovial spruce]

It becomes even easier if you use flak jacket

[jovial spruce]

Nah

[paper palm]

Worse, I die to trip mines!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[paper palm]

What do you suggest then, K9???

[shadow hound]

equalizer dude

or claw

[ornate jackal]

Theres a perk for this

Hard wired i think

[shadow hound]

these are the best ones for obj imo

[jovial spruce]

Nah equalizer or annihilater

[paper palm]

Yeah man, Equalizer is just 💋👌🏻

[narrow glen]

@paper palm, 3 Server Rank

[paper palm]

Except I don't use that perk

[jovial spruce]

Hard wired is not worth it

Just use quick fux

*fix

[paper palm]

I use Lightweight, Persistence, and Quickfix or Vulture sometimes

[jovial spruce]

Vulture ????

Why???

[paper palm]

Yeah 😶

[paper palm]

Fennec has some serious ammo issues

[jovial spruce]

Lightweight is bad too

[paper palm]

What's better than LW for movement speed???

[jovial spruce]

Don't tell me you use fennec with vulture

[paper palm]

😝

[jovial spruce]

Not burning to death, use dauntless

Or flak jacket both are good

[paper palm]

Nice one, Noted

[jovial spruce]

Also it's like 5%

[paper palm]

After watching the CODM WC, I switched to fennec

[jovial spruce]

Yeah fennec is a solid gun

[paper palm]

Bro, GodL just massacred Luminosity with 7-0 SND!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[jovial spruce]

Oof that was sad

Luminosity hadn't planned anything

Which is the reason they got smoked

[paper palm]

I was awake till midnight to watch the semifinals!!!! 🤘🏻

[narrow glen]

@paper palm, 4 Server Rank

[paper palm]

It was #lit!!!!

[jovial spruce]

Snd is pretty strategy based

[paper palm]

Too much arrogance and trash talk sure pays off quite well

[jovial spruce]

Yep

[paper palm]

Hmmm, that's for sure

[jovial spruce]

That meltdown game was legit depressing to witness

They had no idea what they were doing

[paper palm]

Hey @jovial spruce, are you from the global version, let's play together tomorrow, DM me your UID

[jovial spruce]

Sure

[feral tendon]

Anybody here at china? 🇨🇳 if u is hit my dm

[unreal gale]

I have actually

I used it for kn for a while

Idk, feels kinda different

I'm more used to red dot

[unreal gale]

You know, first bp kilo, the one with the name tags strapped to the mag?

[unreal gale]

I don't have it

[paper oasis]

i honestly understand why this games matchmaking is so ass

[jovial spruce]

Haha

[paper oasis]

i hv people that will never play obj but they go 4 and 25

i mean if u drop 30 kills i have no problem with u not playing obj but if u not gonna do shit just stay in the obj

[shadow hound]

yeah, sometimes i'm spawn trapping the enemy team, keeping 3 of them at their base, but my team can't take the obj so i have to take it myself.

[rich arch]

Kilo, grau, or ak117 for mp?

[shadow hound]

I'd say grau

[tawny isle]

either kilo or grau

ak117 is a little more skill-based compared to the other two

[marble harbor]

question

is optic really necessary?

[paper oasis]

every time i get on a streak this game will just bend me over

like i’ll be spawn trapping then next thing yk my game just lags to hell and my nuke streaks gone

[tawny isle]

no

[worthy grail]

Does anyone here have some sort of Locus legendary

[unreal gale]

I have the scuba one

[worthy grail]

Uhh

[worthy grail]

Preference

Use with and without the optic and see which one you do better with

[viscid belfry]

any icr build for br?

[strong monolith]

Marksman barrel
Macromag
Optic
Tac laser
Granulated
Mods: Fast ADS, Long range, Precise shot

[viscid belfry]

optic i dont need bc i have leggy skin

what can switch for

[austere igloo]

I have neptune

[strong monolith]

Use SoH

[viscid belfry]

no stock maybe?

[ruby iris]

No stock in br

[viscid belfry]

idk bro

[ruby iris]

Mentally and physically deranged

[minor flare]

Use MIP Stock

[rich arch]

Anyone m13 build

[uneven anchor]

me who does

[austere igloo]

I don't use no stock on most guns, even in mp

does that make me deranged as well?

[worthy grail]

Depends on the gun you’re talking about

[austere igloo]

if its stuff like qq9 or rus then yea I use no stock on those

[calm sail]

Any good bizon builds

[rich arch]

Any good m13 build?

[austere igloo]

I got one

[rich arch]

Thanks

[austere igloo]

[shadow briar]

unless its a gun designed for cqc/aggro like qq9 or smt, no

[austere igloo]

Fair enough

[shadow briar]

a flex might actually almost benefit more from higher bsa and less flinch compared to some move speed, even though losing the ads and strafe isnt great

so maybe running a light stock instead of no stock on flex to get some ads but less bsa loss

[austere igloo]

So if I run light stock on switchblade does that count?

Or on stuff like grau or m13?

[shadow briar]

dont remember what it does on sbx9

but one of the ones that boosts ads/strafe with less bsa loss and hit flinch, but really only for flex where you want some speed but not to kill your flinch and bsa

kn, m13, grau, etc

[tall patio]

What’s the best load out for br

[shadow briar]

qq9/cx9/m13/amax/s36 + hdr/zrg/xpr or m13/amax/oden/s36 + hs0

imo

[tall patio]

How to u make the ur axis still like some legendary g..ns

[austere igloo]

Mine is lk24/s36/lapa/hs2126/ebr

[austere igloo]

Wdym

[shadow briar]

also valid

im not a huge fan of hs2 personally outside of trolling in shipment, but if it works for you

[austere igloo]

All of my guns have optics except hs2126

[austere igloo]

Hs2126 is underrated

[wintry abyss]

I went to asia this summer and a third of players were using that shit

[shadow briar]

i dont doubt its good

i just personally cant get it to work

[strong monolith]

Drop EBR for XPR

[solid holly]

Dlq build?

[austere igloo]

Serious?

[solid holly]

Please

[austere igloo]

I’m not a fan of xpr’s handling though

[minor flare]

Xpr is my suitable SR

[austere igloo]

I mean I do get that sniper’s power but I just like ebr’s handling bttr

[minor flare]

It has better bullet speed

But ebr has 600 m/s bullet speed

[austere igloo]

I thought both snipers were hitscan?

Only hdr is the only sniper with bullet speed

[minor flare]

All BR weapons are adding bullet speed

[austere igloo]

Dammit

[minor flare]

Non bullet speed and bullet speed weapons

[strong monolith]

There are no hitscan weapons in BR

[shadow briar]

even my ZRG that can make a helicopter blow up in 3 shots has travel time

kinda a scam tbh but whatever

[minor flare]

I recommend bring bullet speed weapons only

Like ARs and SMGs especially HDR

[wintry abyss]

maybe not a third but like

a lot

every game had one in it

at least

[austere igloo]

interesting

[stray meteor]

Koska bulid i forgot the other ine

One

[waxen patrol]

Guys

MSMC is underrated

[austere igloo]

Nah it deserves to stay at the bottom

[ruby iris]

I thought shotguns were hitscan

[austere igloo]

Well, fuck me

[waxen patrol]

No

[austere igloo]

If msmc is underrated then what does that make gks?

[waxen patrol]

Msmc is so good in top 5000 legendary

[ruby iris]

Msmc is decent

[austere igloo]

[waxen patrol]

Gks is mid

[ruby iris]

Gks is average

[austere igloo]

Fuck off its not

[strong monolith]

The only exceptions

[austere igloo]

Is msmc good?

[ruby iris]

I still dont have gks damascus

[waxen patrol]

See he say it’s average

[austere igloo]

In mp?

[waxen patrol]

I have that

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

I don’t see msmc in my lobbies except by bots

[ruby iris]

I put 105 pulls through that shit

[strong monolith]

Its not bad

[waxen patrol]

Sad

[austere igloo]

But is it good?

[ruby iris]

Viable

[strong monolith]

I won't say top tier but it can compete

[austere igloo]

I know it isn’t bad per se but is it up there in the ‘good’ tier

[waxen patrol]

It’s good if ur experience

[waxen patrol]

It’s a good tier

[austere igloo]

…what makes it able to compete?

[waxen patrol]

Underrated

[strong monolith]

TTK and mobility

[waxen patrol]

True

[austere igloo]

How fast is it? Compared to other guns

Like sbx9 fennec & qq9

[waxen patrol]

It’s quite fast

[strong monolith]

It kills in 195ms up close
QQ9 kills in 216ms

[austere igloo]

I’m not asking you

[austere igloo]

But what about 10m & beyond?

[waxen patrol]

I’m the one who created the question on msmc bro

So im giving out proof on saying why it’s good

[austere igloo]

And now I’m fact-checking to see if your statement abt msmc being underrated is good

[waxen patrol]

Bro just try it out urself

[austere igloo]

isleep has better credibility so I’ll take his word over yours

You just came out of nowhere with that

[waxen patrol]

Bro because I found it out

First

[austere igloo]

So now I wanna know from facts & stats if that thing is actually good

[austere igloo]

Doesn’t mean I’ll buy it

I need cold, hard proof

& not just word of mouth

[waxen patrol]

What u saying lol

[narrow glen]

@waxen patrol, 12 Server Rank

[waxen patrol]

Everyone is texting here

[austere igloo]

You literally mouthed “msmc is underrated” & “msmc is good” without showing me evidence

[waxen patrol]

Evidence as in what famous YouTubers finally realized that msmc is goated?

[austere igloo]

Where’s the stats, the figures, the numbers, that prove your point is valid

[austere igloo]

No, the stats

[waxen patrol]

I have the build for Msmc

It’s works really good in all rank modes

[austere igloo]

I’m referring to this

[waxen patrol]

Bruh why u need that

[austere igloo]

Show me your msmc build & show me this

[waxen patrol]

It’s only about skills

[vagrant wraith]

anyone has a good kilo build for the mythic?

[tawny walrus]

🤦

[austere igloo]

Because that proves whether you’re speaking the truth or not

[austere igloo]

Lmao

[waxen patrol]

I can’t send pic here

[austere igloo]

Using a shit gun well doesn’t make the gun not shit

Yes, you have better skill, but it doesn’t mean the gun you’re using is good on its own

[waxen patrol]

I can’t even show a pic

[austere igloo]

By your logic, if I destroy somebody with the mw11 does that mean its top tier

[waxen patrol]

It doesn’t let me

[austere igloo]

You’re not high level enough

Rip

But yea @strong monolith you got like a comparison for msmc with qq9 or something?

Like the ttk chart you made

[strong monolith]

At the 2nd range, MSMC kills in 260ms while QQ9 gets 288ms

Overall, MSMC will kill 1-2 frames faster

[austere igloo]

But what about the bsa

& the recoil

[strong monolith]

Also better than QQ9

Recoil is the only reason its not used

[austere igloo]

I meant recoil, sorry

[austere igloo]

^

Msmc’s recoil goes sky high

[strong monolith]

Its not unusable recoil but the horizontal kick can screw you over at times

[austere igloo]

Even with recoil buffing attachments it can still fuck you over

[austere igloo]

Yea that’s why I don’t normally use it

I have an old msmc build that uses all recoil buffing attachments…but it still kicks like no tmrw

[austere igloo]

Esp from mid range

[vale lichen]

It was in BP though 👀 i am sure it will come to vault

[vagrant wraith]

my kilo 141 bipolar

i need a better gunsmith

[timid plover]

Can I get qq9 loadout

[keen gazelle]

i dont wanna be that guy but skill issue

in game its very low recoil

[rich arch]

Is the magazine attachment on rytec viable on mp

Since stuffs like trophy system, ballistic sheild and killstreak exist

[steep jackal]

Can I get dlq Lotus flaim

[rich arch]

How much you got for the dlq

I mean money

[steep jackal]

0😫

[rich arch]

How about selling your liver for that dlq

[steep jackal]

Bc I'm am poor

[rich arch]

You can sell your liver

[steep jackal]

What is liver?

I am new in discord

[narrow glen]

Check out id:customize for more roles!
Check out id:browse for more channel(s) acces!

[rich arch]

How old are you

[steep jackal]

Only12

I mean 12

I love call of duty to much

Is u play call of duty mobile?

[zinc dagger]

[rich arch]

@dim egret you got the McDonald work application thing?

Sorry for disturbment anyway

[rich arch]

Me, no play coll of duty mobule anymore

Me weight-ing for niou Seazon

[steep jackal]

i want cp

[rich arch]

great

[steep jackal]

How I get it for free

[rich arch]

CP Store

[steep jackal]

Is it free😱

[zinc dagger]

Yup

[rich arch]

No it's a paid service

[rich arch]

Yes

[steep jackal]

So how i get it for free?

[rich arch]

Free for everyone to buy. **

[cobalt hollow]

😄

[rich arch]

Like you don't have to pay to access this feature

[zinc dagger]

Buy 5000 u will get 5000 more

[cobalt hollow]

btw do you guys know whats the full form of cp its credits paid

[zinc dagger]

🙂

[steep jackal]

This cost too much

I can buy a bike from it

[zinc dagger]

Nope

[rich arch]

For you

[shadow briar]

then run sks

[zinc dagger]

You're in Lucid Dream

[steep jackal]

In my country

[cobalt hollow]

what bike is it toy scooter?

[zinc dagger]

I said you're in Lucid Dream

[shadow briar]

get the role for it

[steep jackal]

Can anyone rank push with me pls☺️

[zinc dagger]

Nop

[rich arch]

No 😊

[cobalt hollow]

xD

straight rejection

[steep jackal]

-_-

[rich arch]

:))

[zinc dagger]

What's ur rank

@steep jackal

[cobalt hollow]

mines legendary top 5000

[zinc dagger]

"-"

[steep jackal]

What br?

[zinc dagger]

@steep jackal

[zinc dagger]

Yup

[steep jackal]

I gusee pro 3 or 4 after br score minus

[rich arch]

Prove?

[cobalt hollow]

i will gve u sc

[narrow glen]

@cobalt hollow, 11 Server Rank

[cobalt hollow]

oh shit i ment top 50000

[zinc dagger]

U don't have perms to share ur ss

[cobalt hollow]

oh ok

[zinc dagger]

[steep jackal]

Now listen

Who is noob?

[cobalt hollow]

u

[steep jackal]

Yes

[cobalt hollow]

[zinc dagger]

Actually u

[rich arch]

Lmfaoooooo

[steep jackal]

Bc my account Level is 94

95

[rich arch]

Both of you are trashes that's it

[shadow briar]

smurf account or?

[zinc dagger]

Why guys you're sending friend request to me

[steep jackal]

My first account level is 150

But that got ban

[shadow briar]

for what lmao

[cobalt hollow]

hacking xD

[rich arch]

Try not to cheat next time

[shadow briar]

how the fuck do you get banned in this game

[steep jackal]

Bc that is a guest account

This is the reason why am i noob

[rigid girder]

Guys give me tips on how I can level up faster

[shadow briar]

but what did you do to get your account banned lmao

[steep jackal]

Idk

[shadow briar]

level is secretly irrelevant, dont worry about it

[cobalt hollow]

1st give up on life
2nd now grind

[steep jackal]

One day

[rigid girder]

[steep jackal]

I just login on my account

I see that got deleted😭😭😭😭

[zinc dagger]

Why u send request

[steep jackal]

Is i tell my game username?

[rigid girder]

Ywah

[steep jackal]

To be friend

[rigid girder]

Yep

[zinc dagger]

I don't know u who are

[steep jackal]

Far____op_1

[steep jackal]

Idk too

[rigid girder]

Today are you up for a game

[steep jackal]

Wanna play with me?

[rigid girder]

Sure

[zinc dagger]

So why

[steep jackal]

My username idk

[steep jackal]

I am new on discord u can be my teacher

[narrow glen]

@steep jackal, 12 Server Rank

[narrow glen]

Check out id:customize for more roles!
Check out id:browse for more channel(s) acces!

[zinc dagger]

Ok

[steep jackal]

Give me friend requst

[rich arch]

How do I post a pic? Tryna ask ppl to compare these two guns and tell me which they think is better

[rigid girder]

Me two

[zinc dagger]

Hmm?

[rigid girder]

I just joined yesterday

[steep jackal]

Give me ur username on codm

[zinc dagger]

Need lvl 35

[rich arch]

Ah okay thanks

[rigid girder]

It's the one I'm using right now

[steep jackal]

Hey give me ur username i give u friend requst

[rigid girder]

DTJ5.30

[steep jackal]

Lol

[rigid girder]

I know

[steep jackal]

What is the game username?

[rigid girder]

DTJ5.30

[steep jackal]

Sure?

[rigid girder]

Yep

[rigid girder]

Can't lie

[steep jackal]

Ok come in the game

[rigid girder]

[steep jackal]

Yes or no?

[rigid girder]

[steep jackal]

[steep jackal]

No?

[rigid girder]

I'm kind of busy right now so maybe later

[steep jackal]

Ok

[rigid girder]

When I'm ready I'll send you a friend request

[steep jackal]

K

[rigid girder]

[narrow glen]

@rigid girder, 7 Server Rank

[steep jackal]

I send u friend requst

[waxen patrol]

I’m good in sks

[rigid girder]

Yeah

[violet topaz]

br ar and smg meta?

[strong monolith]

Follow this tier list

[clear bough]

Bird of paradise is dogshit

The actual gun is not viable in some scenarios

[strong monolith]

Did you actually think that this is a list for skins?

[strong monolith]

Also this is for BR

[clear bough]

At first yes and then i back read

[clear bough]

Exactly

I would put the holger slightly higher up

[strong monolith]

Holger is down in workable because it has poor long range dmg

[clear bough]

I have never tried dingo in br

[rich arch]

MK9 BR build, pls

[violet topaz]

is this by order for example cx 9 is ahead of qq9 so cx9 is better than qq9?

[strong monolith]

Not really, if you see a weapon of the same category in the same tier, then its most likely interchangeable
Depends on user preference

[clear bough]

Idk if i'm blind or there's no as val and dr-h in the tierlist

[violet topaz]

as val on decent

[strong monolith]

Check tiers Super Competitive and Decent

[rich arch]

@strong monolith you got something?

[strong monolith]

Summit barrel
Stalker stock
60r mag
Optic
Disable

[clear bough]

No wonder why i couldn't see em, the image is shortened when i'm using discord in a pop-up window

[rich arch]

Thx, what should the mods be?

[strong monolith]

Long range, vertical recoil, ext mag

[rich arch]

[pale sorrel]

👋

[austere igloo]

dingo is just an inferior s36

it can work, but most of the while you wouldn't use it over s36

[austere igloo]

drh in super competitive, as val in decent

[rich arch]

Drh as ground loot is garbo tho

20 rds for low end stats

[austere igloo]

yea you need mods

[tired grove]

Yeah

[sharp violet]

Anyone got a qq9 build for siege zombies

I’m tryna get the skin for it

[keen gazelle]

what’s ur mp list

[tall patio]

What’s the best build for the Ak 47 to keep the aim still while shooting

[rich arch]

Try the fennec

[tall patio]

Nah I’m looking for the Ak 47 specifically

[rich arch]

I can look it up

[tall patio]

It’s for br

Thx dude

[rich arch]

I had to add u so I can send the pictures

[rich arch]

I need to add u so I can send the pictures

[rich arch]

Want to lvl fast do hard point shipment and u will lvl quickly!!!

[tall patio]

Where are they

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Anyone want gun builds

[ornate jackal]

Just use the gru barrel and whatever else u like

[wispy latch]

Somebody give me a bizon loadout pls

[ruby orchid]

Whats meta right now?

[narrow glen]

@ruby orchid, 10 Server Rank

[ruby orchid]

Please tell meta along with loadout for it

[wispy latch]

Fast fire rate aim speed and short range

But there are still some sniper campers

I use fennec rn but trying bizon cuz its kinda good

[ruby orchid]

Please share a fennec loadout

[wispy latch]

One sec I'll get mine

Monolith sup
mip extended light
Rtc steady stock
Operator foregrip
Extended mag a

[digital needle]

Ain't no way why you put FFr and Makarov on worst tier

[worthy grail]

He’s SoD

So you should stfu and listen 😂

[digital needle]

Let me explain first.

Fr556 : Similar to M4, Just better recoil and little less damage

Makarov : Put Full auto akimbo on it. Fun. And u should play on FPP because Akimbo Accuracy is not great in TPP

I played every single guns in the game. I know which one great, which one bad.

[formal river]

That’s the Fr. Not the Ffar

[digital needle]

Oh.

Edited, thanks for reminding

[formal river]

You’re welcome

[keen gazelle]

so because i say the sks sucks because i cant use it

that its bad… sounds kinda dumb no?

[strong monolith]

I can actually show how bad the FR TTK is compared to some of the other top tier ARs
And the recoil doesn't justify the slow TTK

[digital needle]

At least it's great choice for pick ground loot weapon ( if they add it )

[formal river]

True

It’s a good starter weapon until you find something else

Like the Ffar

[strong monolith]

And as for Makarov, it shoots peas and can only be used at the ranges where shotguns and SMGs while having a TTK that isn't that much better than them

[strong monolith]

Eh not really
Pretty much every other AR other than burst guns will do its job better

[formal river]

It’s only good with full auto

[strong monolith]

And even then, there is no point in using it over SMGs

[digital needle]

“ For fun “

[formal river]

True

I’m having trouble doing the no attachments

[digital needle]

You have akimbo smg in your hand with 80r drum mag

So satisfying to using it

[strong monolith]

I have been there, done that and it made me want to quit the game

[formal river]

Yea

The rof is so slow

[strong monolith]

The main issue is that the TTK is very inconsistent and at best, it is on the average side compared to SMGs
Sure it may be fun but I only rank guns based on effectiveness and not fun

[digital needle]

Without attachment, i can say Makarov is the worst gun in the game

[formal river]

Agreed

[strong monolith]

Unless you constantly shove it up the enemies' face, you would be better off using an actual SMG over the Makarov

And even if you do, shotguns will destroy you

[formal river]

Ye

[digital needle]

Yep

[strong monolith]

Hence it is placed in the avoid tier just like every other pistol due to its lack of utility

[digital needle]

I'd suggest to put Oden on S tier

Fastest TTK among Assault rifle if able to land some headshot. Also very good recoil

[strong monolith]

Reason for it not being in S tier is because of 2 reasons

• TTK inconsistency due to slow fire rate and reliance on chest shots
• S36 has a similar TTK profile without any of these issues

[digital needle]

Um .. understandable

I'm not sure using TGD stats can be accurate as your TTK calculation

[formal river]

App plz

[strong monolith]

My charts are done using 300hp and using the combined TTK (Not including headshots)

[digital needle]

TrueGameData

[formal river]

Thank you

[digital needle]

300 hp

[unique schooner]

What are your thoughts on the ZRG compared to the other snipers?

[digital needle]

Close one

[strong monolith]

Combined TTK looks something like this (w/ attachments)

[strong monolith]

Very strong alternative to HDR
Sacrifices bullet speed and 2 tap consistency for more vehicle damage

[unique schooner]

Very cool to know, thank you

[ruby iris]

Someone explain to me how zrg is faster than dlq?

.408 precision sniper rifle

Vs

20mm anti materiel rifle

[digital needle]

Very make sense ye

In original Cod Cold war title, Every stats about Zrg is super slow

[rich arch]

guys c'mon i agree that zrg is good in br, it kills demon, but, on mp? no no no

[ruby iris]

Zrg is good in mp

[rich arch]

well there's alot of good snipers for mp

but let's be honest, there's dlq and locus

locus will dominate, locus is literally one of the most stable sniper out there

[ruby iris]

Nah

[rich arch]

reason? maybe i can agree

[ruby iris]

Locus hype came from championship players using locus

In championship ppl dont use suppressor

Non suppressed locus is slightly better than dlq

Like barely

Like ~3% movement

And 2 more rpm

But in ranked obviously you're gonna run suppressor

So that whole thing is out the window

And dlq isnt that great in the first place

The only reason ppl use dlq is that they're used to it

Cuz it's the first sniper you get

Change the first gun to zrg or koshka and you'd see them flocking to it

And even then, there's xpr, which is like the most broken sniper we ever got

Fastest ads speed for 1 tap sniper

Semi auto so you can spam shots even if you hitmarkered/missed your first shot

Fast movement speed so you dont have to run a knife and can run something more potent like an lcar or akimbo dobvra

[rich arch]

stop

i get your point

[ruby iris]

And it even has a spare slot so you can run tac foregrip to have the second lowest flinch for 1 tap snipers

Only downside is that it cant 1 tap through wall

But even then, just shoot again

You're not running a bolt action

[ruby iris]

Aight

[rich arch]

one thing, it's fine to sacrifice movement for locus bc using it doesn't focus on moving alot

and yes dlq is not that good

it's soooooo unstable, but it destroys in snd

listen, it's not all about the performance of the gun

[ruby iris]

.

[halcyon obsidian]

Hi

[narrow glen]

@halcyon obsidian, 10 Server Rank

[rich arch]

if one tap snipers meet rushers, they're ded and when they go head on with spam guns which most are smg, they're ded

[ruby iris]

1. No?
2. What does that have to do with the points i made anyways?

Anyways i should go to sleep

[rich arch]

I'm not finish c'mon

[ruby iris]

It's 0:42

[rich arch]

same

[ruby iris]

Just do a quick tl;dr

[rich arch]

go to sleep

[rich arch]

and with snipers that needs to shoot 2+ shot to kill the enemy is just bad specially at snd because there's players who react fast, they either scape when they got the first shot or do a zig zag to a safe place, yes you can still pretty much hit them for the second shot but most snipers literally takes time before being able to shoot again

my point is that, many snipers are good but it pretty much depends on the gameplay, and situation

[uneven raft]

Who trying to play Call of Duty mobile with me

[inland sail]

None

[uneven raft]

yea

[warm raven]

thanks for the loadout i dropped a nuke in tdm first game wit it in legendary lobbies

[wispy latch]

Nice

[tawny isle]

i run tac sup

[wispy latch]

Depends on how you like to play

[onyx eagle]

Gks and qq9 loadout anyone? Fast ads decent recoil?

[viscid belfry]

qq9: mono, rec tac barrel, no stock, 45 mag, tac laser/gran

gks idk

[ornate jackal]

For qq9 u can run mono suppressor, gks can do gran instead of laser/perk for anything u need like an optic or underbar or even another perk

[tawny isle]

good build

[thin knot]

Arctic build anyone?

[rich arch]

Id run a tac laser instead of gran on an smg but aight

[tawny isle]

thats what ruckus said

oh wait nvm

here

[ornate jackal]

Bro just wants to flex his diamond leggy

[tawny isle]

it was the 7 day trial one

[ornate jackal]

Ah

I got it to never use it

Like i played 1 match with it and wasted the rest of the days on the trial

[tawny isle]

its a mid leggy compared to other qq9 leggys

[viscid belfry]

mid? thats a piece of trash

[tawny isle]

honestly,its still leggy for me

the only p2w guns i habe are cx9 halloween epic

[rich arch]

Yeah ngl I preferred the base irons lol

[ornate jackal]

Its not even the leggy its just the gun i dislike qq9

I didnt like melting point when they did a trial with that either

[rich arch]

Blocked

Its my favorite smg probably

Backed by the bizon

[ornate jackal]

Only way i use qq9 is if im sniping and someone drops a mythic when they die, or the same thing but they have a good blue print like neon grudge

[ornate jackal]

Bizon the goat

[rich arch]

Frfr

[rich arch]

Neon grunge is worse than base imo

[tawny isle]

why do ppl overlook it so much

[rich arch]

And I have the skin

[tawny isle]

it is pretty mid

[rich arch]

Its too clunky

[ornate jackal]

I like the unrounded blueprints for it

[rich arch]

Also looks hideous with any camo

[rich arch]

Dune fire would be good

Black gold is awful lmao

[ornate jackal]

Albatross and golden decree too

[rich arch]

And thats all I have

[rich arch]

P2w so idk

[ornate jackal]

Isnt dune fire p2w

[tawny isle]

golden decree has digital sights right?

[rich arch]

The little space blaster one is pretty good

[tawny isle]

yes and it was free

[rich arch]

No it was in ranked chests

[ornate jackal]

Dang

[tawny isle]

it used to be a p2w

[rich arch]

Ojhh

[tawny isle]

qq9 can easily compete against top smgs

pretty similar to sx9

[rich arch]

I prefer it over any smg for close range

[tawny isle]

only qq9 can 3tap

[rich arch]

Cx9 is about the same

[rich arch]

Yup

[celest blade]

i love the lachmann

[rich arch]

People should test things more often

[celest blade]

so OP

[rich arch]

Like .30 mag doesn’t actually boost 3 tap potential

[celest blade]

burst mag is CRAZY

[rich arch]

True

[tawny isle]

someone said its 44ms ttk

[rich arch]

But I prefer ammo

[celest blade]

💀 that is a waste of an attachment

[rich arch]

Nah 112 or smth

[rich arch]

Yup

[tawny isle]

for qq9?

[celest blade]

ye its 1burst ttk up to 15m realistically

[rich arch]

Yes

[celest blade]

its crzy for snd

[tawny isle]

the yes its a waste

[rich arch]

[tawny isle]

i use it aggressively but i need to run it with vulture

[rich arch]

Its only advantage is slightly more range

[austere igloo]

People actually run vulture?

[rich arch]

But the points where it helps arent actually better due to lower fire rate and more recoil

[rich arch]

I always have

[tawny isle]

no, i just run it for cx9 12r hollow point

[celest blade]

lol yeah vulture is a requiremenfor respawn cx burst

[rich arch]

I hate running out of ammo

[celest blade]

in snd not so much

[tawny isle]

exactly

[celest blade]

snd u run quick fix or ghost

[rich arch]

Quick fix barely heals me so I dropped it

[celest blade]

but respawns vulture is necessary for the burst mag

[rich arch]

Ghost and cold blooded are the only green perks id consider using but eh

I ran out of anmo a few times and changed my mind

[tawny isle]

quick fix is not needed for snd 🗿

[rich arch]

Quick fix more for obj modes

[tawny isle]

yes

[ruby iris]

Toughness

[rich arch]

Never needed toughness

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

I next to never notice flinch

[ruby iris]

You never fought at long range anyways

[tawny isle]

toughness is for cordite or alternative comp build for fennec

[rich arch]

I do on occasion

If so im using something like oden or ul

[ruby iris]

Mid range at best

[rich arch]

But I do mostly stick to mid and short range

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Depends on the gun

And map

[ruby iris]

Short: 0-20m
Mid: 20-40m
Long: 40m+

[celest blade]

idk i usually find myself in 1v2s and 1v3s so its nice with the burst mag

[rich arch]

Yup ik

[ruby iris]

[celest blade]

i run ghost on all other snd loadies

[rich arch]

Bro thinks I dont know ranges

[ruby iris]

Toughness is essential when fighting 50m+

[rich arch]

Ive noticed some jumps while firing before but not often

Im usually under cover at long range

[celest blade]

as a wise doge pfp yter once said. “just pull down”

[rich arch]

Cygnoux im guessing

[celest blade]

i doubt youll be taking many 50m engagements anyways

unless BR