codm-gunsmith-help

[minor flare]

For mac 10 agency suppressor extended barrel steel stock or aim assist laser 53 stanag mag and Striker foregrip or BO foregrip
Mac 10 with aim assist laser is questionable ngl

[formal river]

I feel like with the buff, these are the builds to go with. That build is still very good tho

[vale lichen]

No operator grip

Why

I really hope first one is BR build

[formal river]

It is

That’s why there’s two

[vale lichen]

Dem u scared me

[formal river]

Sorry

[rich arch]

I think for m13 the combo of mini barrel and no stock ruin the gun

[green copper]

let me try, i'm so bad at using m13, hope it can improve my skills

[formal river]

It just has some recoil

[rich arch]

This is not a good build scilencer barrel isn’t much worse than mini and double stack can be traded for extended mag

Silencer is just better

[rich arch]

Like I said

[vale lichen]

No

If you are not using double stack don't use m-13

[rich arch]

Double mag could stay but it loses the point of it with scilencer

Otherwise u could keep it

I agree double stack is very good on m13

[vale lichen]

I didn't add silencer though🤨

[rich arch]

I am saying I should add silencer

Wait

No it’s fine

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

I am making no sense

[vale lichen]

Bro is playing with my mind

[celest nimbus]

yo

[rich arch]

But why do u have disable on it

@vale lichen

Thats mad cursed

[green copper]

i often play mp5, it also has recoil but, my gunsmith cut down it, a bit recoil i think i can control

[rich arch]

Add an under barrel instead or if u r fine Wit recoil add SOF or fmj

[vale lichen]

No i play snd mainly

Disable is a good perk

[atomic dust]

i need redeem code
what should i do

[vale lichen]

Normally owc laser is good choice

[rich arch]

KRIG 6 BUILD?

[formal river]

But doesn’t it need to be silenced?

[rich arch]

Wrong build

My bad

I will send later

[formal river]

Ok

[strong monolith]

Silencer barrel and combat stock for a BR build...

[rich arch]

Fr

I don’t get why ppl even focus on ads in br

[strong monolith]

Its not like you are gonna use it as an SMG

[little bison]

rate

id this buicl good

[rich arch]

Just focus on all recoil

[little bison]

snd

[rich arch]

For br

[strong monolith]

Depends on the gun really
SMG builds can benefit from both hipfire and ADS

[rich arch]

Idk never used it

[rich arch]

But if u r using m13 just focus on lowest recoil possible

Don’t even think about ads

[strong monolith]

Just go recoil, range and BSA

[rich arch]

I like it

Exactly

[strong monolith]

Standard procedure for most ranged primary builds

[rich arch]

Finally someone who understands me

And doesn’t want to mudder me for using ranger foregrip on m13 br

[strong monolith]

Ranger is like an ideal attachment for M13

[rich arch]

Exactly

Bro is speaking my love language

[strong monolith]

Not every gun benefits from Ranger but M13 does

Since it gets slightly worse than average base BSA

[worthy grail]

Use choke instead of tac supp

[rich arch]

Finally someone who realizes this

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 11 Server Rank

[north rune]

Agency Suppressor
Marksman Barrel
Red Dot / Light stock
Extended Mag B
Any ADS Griptape

[outer sun]

Yo can any one give me something for free

6897488890224640001

Pls

[tawny walrus]

Nope.

[vale lichen]

Take my Hi

[outer sun]

Ho

Hi

[unique schooner]

Parents should be giving beatings for free i think

[vale lichen]

Yeah i didn't checked the stock first then realised

[outer sun]

In cod

[shell hill]

Build locus

[vale lichen]

Sent u a Hi in cod

[outer sun]

Ok

[worthy grail]

Wrong

[vale lichen]

*Task force barrel

[worthy grail]

Yes

[tawny isle]

use taskforce

taskforce is life

[worthy grail]

FMJ perk, stopping power mag, ykm skeleton stock, stippled grip tape, ykm lightweight short

[sacred cargo]

Fastest Artic 50 build @worthy grail

Anyone's thoughts on the free artic 50 camo

[worthy grail]

Stippled grip tape, skeleton stock, assasin short, owc light suppressor and for the last attachment
If you want absolute max ads speed use owc laser but if you want a better gun overall use fmj perk

[plucky sentinel]

I have a problem with my account. I have the Actifgen mobile code for more than a month. I have not been able to enter it. It tells me the email and password are wrong, but I am sure that it is correct. I tried all the solutions and changed the password, and no solution works. If I write an email and password, any other account will enter me. My main account won't let me in

[sacred cargo]

The what code ??

[sacred cargo]

Thx @worthy grail

[plucky sentinel]

Call of duty*

[sacred cargo]

Trying to use the .50 with that crazy camo

[worthy grail]

Great

[sacred cargo]

Same

[narrow glen]

@sacred cargo, 4 Server Rank

[sacred cargo]

The build is just bad

[worthy grail]

Use stopping power arctic

Take out the suppressor use the stopping power magazine

[vale lichen]

I don't think anyone care about artic ads

Hardscoper gun honestly

[sacred cargo]

I use it for ads'ing

@vale lichen

@worthy grail thanks for the build it's wonderful

[vale lichen]

Ur missing out

There are better alt for ads snipers

Koshka, zrg

[sacred cargo]

Ik ik

I just wanna try something new

I don't use the HDR, ZRG and some others

My favs are DLQ, locus, Koska, xpr, and .50

[vale lichen]

Xpr is skill-less sniper

Semi automatic shit

[rich arch]

@ornate jackal just my opinion but I'd personally go for the ranger barrel on the lapa
Doesn't really damage anything about it and gives quite the buff

But the barrel you put might be good as well

[vale lichen]

Show stats

[rich arch]

Lemme get on rq

[sacred cargo]

I'm it's casual

I use it it br for long range

[rich arch]

@vale lichen upper with ranger lower with his

His is only beneficial if you want a slightly faster rof

[vale lichen]

Both seems ok

[rich arch]

Yuh

Mine just had better bs better movement speed and ads time

His has a better fire rate

[vale lichen]

I think u should personally select some Attachements

[rich arch]

We're using the same build
Just a diff barrel

[vale lichen]

I mean everyone has personal preference

I don't like to use foregrip on AR

[rich arch]

Oh yeah

That's why I said it might be good too

I ain't hating just suggested him to try that attachment cause he might like it

[tawny isle]

some foregrips are good

like the type that you see on guns like krig

or peacekeeper

like the black ops fg

[unreal gale]

Hvk for sure. I got it xD

Kilo is a mythic though so it’s kinda rare

What’s that?

But yeah, also kilo and Grau are kinda the same gun imo, so hvk is a good change

[rich arch]

Oh yeah no worries . Well not seriously but I was just saying hah

[cloud imp]

best kilo bolt action gunsmith?

[sacred cargo]

Best Br dr-h build

[pale willow]

yo
what are the top 10 guns this season?

[hushed topaz]

@rich arch wanna play?

[formal river]

The DLQ is wrong. It should be an SMG.

[rich arch]

I can't play now unfortunately

I only login for the rewards lol

[rich arch]

Finally a good list

[rich arch]

Add the marksman: SKS and the asval 15fmj because they're both meta too (at least for those who know how to use them)

[tawny isle]

that is perfect

finally a good tier list

post it in gallery

[rich arch]

Well everyone knows already what's meta in MP apparently. What we need mostly is a BR list

Arctic 50 or koshka?

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[rich arch]

Lmao

[unreal gale]

Oh yeah I forgot about the sks

[rich arch]

and I'd maybe add DRH too

[unreal gale]

90% winrate. I need some of that in ranked

[formal river]

[unreal gale]

I think drh is kinda niche ngl, only works in smaller maps

[formal river]

Koshka

[unreal gale]

Also someone pointed out earlier that flex is guns like kilo and LK, and ffar should be hybrid

[rich arch]

It can actually do pretty good in mid-long range too

[formal river]

Mods, leak his IP address

[rich arch]

Thanks!

[formal river]

Np

[rich arch]

But according to Bobby it's a hybrid

And also CBR from smgs

[ruby iris]

Lmg

Consistent 3 tap

Can 2 tap

Shoots at around drh fire rate

Slightly slower

But faster than ak47

[ruby iris]

2 tap is like 2 torso shots, not 2 headshots like hvk

[north rune]

Oh, I meant taskforce

I don't remember the names much

[pastel spear]

Is the sks any good still

Last time I played was in 2029

2020

[ruby iris]

Yes

[pastel spear]

1-10

[ruby iris]

Prolly like a 8-9

[pastel spear]

Ok

Worth getting diamond?

[ruby iris]

Cuz it's somewhat hard to use, and slow mobility

[pastel spear]

Ohh

[ruby iris]

Definitely

[pastel spear]

Kk

Ian play ina minute

who have a 2 finger hud I can use

Lol

[wet quest]

No M13 and No Krig? 🥲

[pastel spear]

Can someone drop me a full load out for sks

N tag me

Nvm

[ruby iris]

Granulated tape or tactical foregrip can be extended light barrel

[pastel spear]

Kk

Qq9 still good?

[ruby iris]

Ye

[distant cove]

I got gifted 560 for no reason lol

[unreal gale]

Both don't make it. If I include those, I'd have like 40 guns in the meta list

[unreal gale]

I need make a few adjustments but yeah, bet

[unreal gale]

Cbr is more like a hybrid too. Smg is more for fennec style

[unreal gale]

Oh nice. When is it coming?

[ruby iris]

That's the neat part

Idk

It was in 2 mw games

[unreal gale]

Lmao

[ruby iris]

So it has a very high chance of coming to codm

[unreal gale]

Also I have 3.5k left (bought a bunch of bp vaults since my account is new

What should I get?

[ruby iris]

Save, wait til sale

[unreal gale]

I'd rather spend it all today

I'm thinking whether dlq holidays is worth it

I got the bp vaults for balckmarket and space captain already though so idk

[candid quarry]

I need a random gun

Meta is js boring

[shadow hound]

m13 and ppsh41

[shadow hound]

i agree

[polar dune]

Qxr build?

[formal river]

Use my old build

[unreal gale]

@ruby iris also ricey, is cx9 burst unironically good?

[ruby iris]

Yes

Banned in champs for obvious reasons

Imagine hvk lc

In smg form

[unreal gale]

But 4 bursts is really miserable isn't it

Or does stacking reload speed make it okay

[ruby iris]

Soh makes it insanely fast

You could do that

[unreal gale]

I'll try it

How many bullets in reserve?

[ruby iris]

Go for either a range stack or a mobility stack

[ruby iris]

4 mags

48 iirc

[unreal gale]

Yeah that's really not a lot huh

[unreal gale]

I'll go for range stack

[wet quest]

You sure that KN 44 and Holger is better than M13?

Lots of big youtubers mentioned M13 in top 10 weapons this season

[worthy grail]

This build is horrible btw

[worthy grail]

Youtubers have horrible takes on the meta

For takes that aren’t complete bullshit, watch path exe or cygnoux

[unreal gale]

For sure.

[worthy grail]

KN above LK, AS VAL in the top 10

[unreal gale]

Kn44 is literally a lk clone, especially if you slap a red dot on it

Literally feels like the same gun

[worthy grail]

We shouldn’t rank guns this way

There are different guns for different roles

Holger is not a good gun for its role

[unreal gale]

Holger still has great mobility, and the gun has crazy aim assist since it's a lmg

[unreal gale]

Dude yes it is 🗿

[worthy grail]

Isn’t the best*

[unreal gale]

Holger is still the most popular lmg in ranked for a reason

[worthy grail]

M13 can be used as a main AR

[unreal gale]

M13 sucks compared to the meta ars

[worthy grail]

Stop talking about ranked those people have 0 gun knowledge

[unreal gale]

💀

[worthy grail]

Using the Grau instead of HVK, not using UL at all, I don’t see any FFARs

[unreal gale]

And who any good uses m13 other than to make content

[worthy grail]

Why don’t you tell me what role you’re going to use for the Holger

[unreal gale]

Same role as UL

[worthy grail]

HVK does it miles better

[unreal gale]

Just faster. Same role as Grau, just slower

[worthy grail]

Your point?

[unreal gale]

Well no shit that's why it's in its own category

By that standard all the guns can piss off and only hvk would remain

[worthy grail]

LK, Kilo and M13 are better alternatives too

And are better than the Holger especially with that flinch*

[unreal gale]

And that's why they're on the list?

Holger is for sure better than m13

You're literally trolling if you think otherwise

[worthy grail]

TTK existing

[unreal gale]

Maybe not in snd since yk, it's a holger

[worthy grail]

What’s your holger build

[unreal gale]

Don't have the Pic on my phone apparently

But tac supp, no stock, disable, tac fg, gran tape

[ruby iris]

As val is in the top 10

[stuck depot]

isnt it the same build it has been for 2 yrs

[worthy grail]

The automatic?

[ruby iris]

Semi

[worthy grail]

I meant automatic

Ferg uses it as the as val not the vss

Yes no shit vss is better than sks

[worthy grail]

Are we talking about this from a comp perspective or ranked player perspective

[stuck depot]

@uneven anchor get outaa here

[uneven anchor]

disable = comp smhd

[uneven anchor]

WHAT

[vague tide]

yo

[uneven anchor]

hwo you know I'm here

[stuck depot]

becuz ur typing??

[uneven anchor]

actually wild

oh

[stuck depot]

bro

[uneven anchor]

ohhhh

[stuck depot]

next lvl stupid

[uneven anchor]

you're a stalker tho

next lvl obssesed

[vague tide]

can anyone suggest me a good cx9 build

[unreal gale]

Well, both

I don't see why people try so hard to separate the two

What's good in comp is for the most part good in ranked and vice versa, with the obvious exceptions of stuff like fmj and wounding, and banned stuff from ranked

[worthy grail]

There is a difference

Comp has every single skin for free

[unreal gale]

People try way to hard to push for the versatile builds

[worthy grail]

Comp has specialised roles so pdw isn’t good in comp

[worthy grail]

Fennec is better than switch

[unreal gale]

Honestly, versatile builds are just for people who can't rely on their aim to hard carry

[uneven anchor]

is fenneck better than cx9

no right

[vague tide]

@unreal gale i dont wanna distrub your conversation, but do you maybe have a good one for me?

[worthy grail]

So I checked the stats and m13 has
-more range
-better bsa
-120ms faster add time
-a LOT better flinch
-faster reload on a 60 round mag
-less recoil
-faster rof

[unreal gale]

I do actually

[worthy grail]

What’s your point

[vague tide]

nice, you mind giving it me?

[unreal gale]

Can't find a Pic lmao, hang on

[worthy grail]

Holger has much better strafe and longer spray duration

[vague tide]

dw i have time

[unreal gale]

Apparently the burst mag is also good. I'll have to test it first before I recommend

[vague tide]

are these different builds for different gamemodes?

[worthy grail]

Just different

[unreal gale]

Holger has broken aim assist because it's an lmg. And it has disable. And you can actually spray and prefire reliably

[worthy grail]

@unreal gale

[vague tide]

a

[unreal gale]

Again, there's a reason why it's still such a hot pick for ranked and no one ever uses m13

[vague tide]

well, @unreal gale thanks

[unreal gale]

Uhh, it's just different ig

[vague tide]

kk

[unreal gale]

The first one stacks range, second one still has decent range but reloads faster

It's up to you what you like. I think SoD recommends the first 1

[vague tide]

im trying the both rq

ginme a sec

[ruby iris]

Noh

Also, hemlo cat

[uneven anchor]

hemlo ricey

[worthy grail]

So you’re going to ignore all the other stats

[unreal gale]

If you don't have the bp skin at least, I'd recommend swapping the soh for a red dot

[uneven anchor]

i quit arena breakout

too boring ill be back in a few seasons

[ruby iris]

Will you plae next season?

[vague tide]

dw i got the mythic

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

yeah why not

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

if something cool and fun

yeaus

[worthy grail]

Holger has normal aim assist

[uneven anchor]

ill definitely be back to speculate on ammo

[ruby iris]

Rpk gun shield
Suomi smg
Mine map

[unreal gale]

I'm about to catch a flight and would love to continue this debate later, but in short, not all stats matter the same. If you cna aim that is.

[worthy grail]

If you can aim then just use m13 lmao and conserve your ammo

[ruby iris]

M13 stronk
Top 10 ar

[uneven anchor]

m13 so braindead

good gun

head empty

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

just keel

[ruby iris]

Vss also full auto irl

[obsidian briar]

Hello

[ruby iris]

And in arena breakout

[uneven anchor]

ricey not nerd out for 1 second

[ruby iris]

Vss stronk

[uneven anchor]

why does vss have no bv in every game

arena breakout
pubg
codm

[ruby iris]

Subsonick

[uneven anchor]

what why would you deliberately make a gun subsonic

[ruby iris]

🅱️ss is subsonic

Quiet

And no penetration

Gud for urban

[uneven anchor]

absolutely dum

supersonic vss when

[vague tide]

i like the second one more since uh yes, idk feels good and stuff so uh iforgor, ty

[ruby iris]

It just have enough energy to bypass armor

[uneven anchor]

head empty

[ruby iris]

But not enough to overpenetrate and hit civilian bystanders

[uneven anchor]

ok now that's cool

[unreal gale]

am I the only one who sees that m13 is super mid?

[uneven anchor]

now i like the vss

[stuck depot]

How am i a stalker when i was here first if anything u be the staller

[uneven anchor]

yea but its just so damn versatile

[unreal gale]

like who uses m13 in ranked? you're literally kidding me if that's your goto gun

[ruby iris]

It's bullet is basically ak bullet, but beeger, hence slower

[worthy grail]

Why not?

[ruby iris]

Me

[worthy grail]

You know what shouldn’t be on top 10 lists?
Holger

[uneven anchor]

it doesn't really excel too hard at one thing but its braindead

[worthy grail]

I’ve already proven that m13 is better

[uneven anchor]

BRO THAT IS COPE

[unreal gale]

a good gun is not one that's bloody meh at everything

you gotta have 1 thing that makes you stand out

[stuck depot]

Ok dante fan boy keep being mentally disabled

[ruby iris]

Fast rpm
Accurate
Good range

[unreal gale]

there's literally like 10 ARs better than m13

[uneven anchor]

dante fan boy is crazy 💀

[unreal gale]

gun literally does 24 damage, what did you expect

[ruby iris]

[stuck depot]

Cat i can just clip that

[uneven anchor]

nuh uh

how you dont have mod

[unreal gale]

oh yeah weren't you a mod before?

so close

[stuck depot]

Ya i was a mod in 2018

[unreal gale]

wait I swear you were a mod a few months ago

[uneven anchor]

imagine getting unmodded

crazy

[stuck depot]

I didn’t get unmmodded i step down

[uneven anchor]

well it stands out because its so versatile

perfect mid off

[unreal gale]

but there are so many better guns for that

ffar literally slaps m13 in the face

[uneven anchor]

what

[unreal gale]

then you have grau, kn, lk, kilo

[worthy grail]

Like?

[uneven anchor]

i wouldn't say that ffar slaps m13

[unreal gale]

definitely feels better

[uneven anchor]

ffar is good tho dont get me wrong

[ruby iris]

Reminds me of that 1 17th century nobleman
Guy fought 20 duels to the death arguing that dante was a better poet than ariosto, when he was on his deathbed, he confessed that he has read neither

[uneven anchor]

and does the excelling at things better

[unreal gale]

maybe I'm biased because I've only been using mythic m13 and that thing feels like crap

[vague tide]

@unreal gale uh u maybe also got a maddox build?

[uneven anchor]

coping and crying and shitting i think

[unreal gale]

I don't. Maddox is a pretty bad gun because the only decent build isn't silenced

and if you want the gun to be silenced, it becomes garbage

[stuck depot]

U want me to post images of u here??

[worthy grail]

You should ask in path not in this braindead server

[vague tide]

wdym

[uneven anchor]

bro chill

[stuck depot]

Exactly what I thought

[minor flare]

What about echo fire mod it turns like a battle rifle barrel

[unreal gale]

lmao. piss off mate. if you don't like it here, please escort yourself out

[ruby iris]

He bouta pull maidenless' pull against you

[worthy grail]

Trying to get him better gunsmiths

[ruby iris]

Also my move

[unreal gale]

idk what the attachment names were, but the only good barrel isn't silenced and the silenced barrel isn't good

maddox doesn't have a suppressor either

[uneven anchor]

you're mad puscat you wouldn't

[unreal gale]

so the fact that the gun looks pretty cool is kinda like the only thing going for it lol

[minor flare]

It's an integral barrel

[vague tide]

i kinda like it, the ironsight of the squashed demon blueprint is pretty clean tho

[uneven anchor]

chill your horses lil bro

[worthy grail]

People here put an extended mag on the bizon and it gets 14 upvotes to 3 downvotes

[minor flare]

It has worse bsa

[unreal gale]

okay well yeah, but you can just paste builds here

[uneven anchor]

i need more boolet

[unreal gale]

I rip my builds straight from SoD

[vague tide]

ty

[uneven anchor]

noh uh

[unreal gale]

that's why we're here and that's why there's a gunsmithing channel :D

[uneven anchor]

💀

[ruby iris]

[worthy grail]

Then I’m glad to hear that

[uneven anchor]

DAWG OUTING ME LIKE THAT IN GUNSMITHING IS CRAZY

😭😭😭

[unreal gale]

I'm glad that SoD aligns with me on builds and which stats to prioritize

so tired of Cygnoux tac lasers lol

[stuck depot]

U brought it on urself

[worthy grail]

No need

64 with that kind of rof and reload time is MORE than enough

You can wipe a whole team with the bizon with ease

[uneven anchor]

but i need more boolet

[minor flare]

People dont use laser and bruen mk9 is a no laser attachment

[ruby iris]

I agree

More boolets

[uneven anchor]

RATATATTATATATTAAA
I NEED MORE BOOLET

[minor flare]

Agr 5.56 is a slept gun and chad but free rds and no laser attachment

[rough wasp]

anyone got a CBR build for mp?

[worthy grail]

Faster or flex

[unreal gale]

cygnoux literally puts laser on every gun since "it has no downsides"

[uneven anchor]

ok bro chill lil bro

[minor flare]

Ikr

[worthy grail]

Their server calls Grau bottom 3 AR don’t listen to him

[stuck depot]

Bro go back to sin before u get exposed again

[unreal gale]

wait what?

[uneven anchor]

BOTTOM 3 AR??

[worthy grail]

Cygnoux familia

[uneven anchor]

i dieded and came back to life to die

[rough wasp]

fast

[stuck depot]

Can u spell

[uneven anchor]

SIN IS ASLEEP WAKE THEM UPPP

[unreal gale]

lmfaooo. ALL the world champs players all suck apparently

[uneven anchor]

[stuck depot]

Bro just break their bed its that simple

[uneven anchor]

when i visit that bed is breaking no question

[minor flare]

People are so tired of using a meta gun

[worthy grail]

Ykm light stock, owc marksman, tac suppressor, disable and granulated grip tape

[minor flare]

I think off meta is Agr 5.56 and fr 5.56

[unreal gale]

I don't see why people don't like metas that are great

[worthy grail]

They technically have a point with flex kilo

But the recoils kills it

[unreal gale]

not many people used that though right

[unreal gale]

yay! another person who recognises that kilo has bad recoil!

[shadow hound]

everyone using the same gun and sweating every match is kinda boring

[narrow glen]

@shadow hound, 10 Server Rank

[worthy grail]

Basically kilo has much better range from 21-30 metres

[worthy grail]

On the flex build

[unreal gale]

yeah

[worthy grail]

On the main ar build its good ofc

[unreal gale]

yup

[worthy grail]

Heidern and Michi can kindly commit unalive with their recoil is a skill issue preaches

[rough wasp]

ty

[unreal gale]

see so many plebs running around with no stock kilos saying they can easily control the recoil

[worthy grail]

They should try to beam someone off a headglitch at 40m with that recoil

[unreal gale]

exactly lmao

[worthy grail]

Grau has faster ttk in close range

[unreal gale]

but in all seriousness, you should test the holger aim assist in training range

stick on pinpoint too while you're at it

quite ridiculous

[worthy grail]

Proper testers have already done so and their answer is average

SoD btw I’m not bullshitting you

[unreal gale]

LMGs in general have crazy aim assist from my testing

[floral juniper]

Do you guys have attachments for cbr

[unreal gale]

oh they test aim assist now? I think I asked iSleep for them to test aim assist

[worthy grail]

Yes I asked isleep

[unreal gale]

eh, could be placebo then

but holger feels amazing. m13 feels like crap imo

[uneven anchor]

placebo works tho

[unreal gale]

^

[uneven anchor]

valid statistic

[worthy grail]

You should just use ul for main ar

[unreal gale]

I tried playing m13 only in ranked. Literal meme gun

[worthy grail]

Trust 👍

[unreal gale]

feels like I'm nerfing myself hard

Like trust me, I really tried to like the gun. Tried super hard

[stuck depot]

Clearly works on u very well

[unreal gale]

just ain't it

the mythic at least is super meh

[uneven anchor]

what are you trying to say fem

[unreal gale]

I actually love UL, but the gun is just way too slow imo

[uneven anchor]

silence

[worthy grail]

Use lk

[unreal gale]

now I'm just back to HVK Grau only

[stuck depot]

Ill post the message just sent

[unreal gale]

especially since I just got lv3 grau and leggy hvk on my alt

[uneven anchor]

what message

[stuck depot]

The message

[uneven anchor]

you're actually schizo i think

[stuck depot]

U want proof?

[ruby iris]

His server is populated by like

[unreal gale]

lk is good too, but I think grau feels a lil better

[ruby iris]

2 members

[unreal gale]

bot accounts 💀

[worthy grail]

Yes

[worthy grail]

Yes michi and heidern

Everyone else is dead

[ruby iris]

Hi uwu and heidern

One is a troll and the other is an andrew tate fan

[uneven anchor]

sparkly woter

mmmm bottom g

why am i wasting away here i should watch k on

good bi chat

[worthy grail]

Weed too ig

[austere igloo]

@strong monolith I wanna ask

type25 & echo are peak in br???

I mean the rest I understand...but type & echo being on top is throwing me in a loop

[strong monolith]

Type 25 is the best sniper support option while Echo is the best auto shotty

[austere igloo]

seriously?

I mean I guess I could get behind typ25 being a sniper support...

but echo? of all the auto shotguns in br...that's the best one??

[strong monolith]

Type 25 SP can outgun pretty much every SMG while having nearly 50% more range and can be used up to mid range
Echo has the advantage of having more consistent dmg output than JAK-12, rarely needing 3-4 shots

[narrow glen]

@strong monolith, 22 Server Rank

[shadow briar]

bro what

[austere igloo]

also where is hs2126

I don't see that gun on the tier list

did you forget about the hs2126 shotty? @strong monolith

[shadow briar]

isnt it in top right S tier?

or is that hs0

[austere igloo]

no

[austere igloo]

that's the lever action one yea

there's no hs2126 in there

& that shotgun is the one I'm currently running in br

[strong monolith]

I'm pretty sure there was one with it

[shadow briar]

KRM in B? dayum

[strong monolith]

Hold on

[austere igloo]

but it's not in the one I posted

[strong monolith]

There

[strong monolith]

Not being able to 1 tap 300hp is a big detriment for a pump shotgun

[shadow briar]

i thought it could, am I on crack?

[austere igloo]

where?

[strong monolith]

Its max dmg is 288

[shadow briar]

B tier

[strong monolith]

Strong

[austere igloo]

ah

nvm found it

earlier there was only striker in that tier

[strong monolith]

1 bursting is very strong with 2126 but it suffers from not being useful outside of fart smelling distance

[austere igloo]

but now it's beside it

[austere igloo]

[shadow briar]

what range do you look at? 10, 15 or 20m?

[strong monolith]

Point blank

[shadow briar]

body only?

[strong monolith]

Body only

You will need headshots to 1 tap 300hp

[shadow briar]

i forget sometimes how utterly lethal hs0 is lol

you only need 80% of your pellets to hit point blank with hs0, not even accounting for random headshots

and even at 7m you can miss 2 pellets and still kill

[rich arch]

😶

[austere igloo]

it is disgusting how broken it is

[shadow briar]

yep

[dense meadow]

Guys I have a question when does the balanced brilliance event ends?

[shadow briar]

it and KRM are both limited not by damage range but by pellet spread in MP, and BR you can 1tap to like 10m with it. fucking gross.

[dense meadow]

Guys I have a question when does the balanced brilliance event ends?

[strong monolith]

I remember back when KRM could actually 1 tap 300hp
It used to be an S tier option but then the nerf basically killed it

[shadow briar]

so KRM is fine-ish until green crates drop, but after that hs0 is the only non-semi SG worth running?

[strong monolith]

Yeah

[shadow briar]

shame. hs0 is the only weapon i prefer non-lever over the lever

[dense meadow]

Yo anyone? Guys I have a question when does the balanced brilliance event ends?

[real crescent]

@dense meadow Do not repeatedly post or spam chat across the channel

[dense meadow]

Alright but I wanna know when does the event for the balanced brilliance thing event ends

It doesn't show

[real crescent]

Possible by the end of this season

[dense meadow]

Appreciate your response because I lowkey wanna get me that dope Q99 skin.

[real crescent]

NP just don't repeat your message as it's spamming and once you ask in #codm-discussion you will get an response okay @dense meadow

[dense meadow]

Alright my fault I just joined the discord server like a few minutes ago

[real crescent]

and if you haven't read #rules please to do so

[swift pebble]

Does anyone have a bizon build??

[ornate jackal]

Tac sup
Owc ranger barrel
Owc skeleton/no stock
Gran
Perk or laser or optic

U can run mip extended barrel and mono sup over marksman barrel to remove ads speed penalty

[polar dune]

Thats cool and all but what abt a qxr build

[ruby iris]

Mono
Marksman
No stock
Gran
Tac laser

[shadow briar]

doesnt qxr need enchanced bolt?

[ruby iris]

Gran can be eb

[ruby iris]

No

[polar dune]

Thanks

[native canopy]

Anyone have kilo 141 build thats good for mp and br

[narrow glen]

@native canopy, 15 Server Rank

[amber lantern]

Anyone got a ak47 build in ranked

[minor flare]

For Ak47
Monolith Suppressor or Tactical
OWC Ranger or MIP Light Barrel (Short)
No Stock or Granulated Grip Tape
OWC Laser - Tactical or Any optics
Large Extended Mag B or 5.45 Caliber Ammo

[formal river]

I know

[tawny isle]

no lmao

its a waste

there is barely a difference in fire rate

[rich arch]

@rich arch this is real sniping and these aren’t even good

[ruby iris]

870 rpm → 1000 rpm

"barely"

[rich arch]

I’m Not Watching Your Vidéo Because I Could Careless About Your Video… Havé A Nice Night 😹

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 10 Server Rank

[rotund cliff]

Who is master rank

[rotund cliff]

R u master rank

[rich arch]

No I’m leggy

[outer sun]

Bro

Can you give me something for free in cod

[young shale]

ai destoyer 🥶

[rich arch]

Lmao it was legendary tho

[young shale]

damn hard to believe

[rich arch]

Iswtg it was

[young shale]

k

[formal river]

Nice sniping

[formal river]

It’s still possible

[unreal gale]

@ruby iris whats the lcar build you recommend?

[austere igloo]

U need an lcar build? I got one

[unreal gale]

ty

[austere igloo]

Emerald camo on zrg💀

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

It’s hipfire spec, btw

[unreal gale]

wait why firm grip

that's ads speed

[austere igloo]

You can change it to sturdy

[unreal gale]

oh okay

[austere igloo]

If ads time doesn’t bother you

Or you can use striker foregrip

Your choice

[unreal gale]

oh okay

[austere igloo]

Lcar is alr pretty good on its own

You just need to put hipfire speccing attachments on it since thats its forte

[unreal gale]

oh okay

[minor flare]

No ads well this is Hipfire machine pistol

[austere igloo]

Yea lcar is a hipfire pistol

If you want ads use deagle or renetti

[rich arch]

Or dobvra

Practically an smg and you can have a whole 80 rds

[austere igloo]

Im not a fan of that pistol

Slow af bv

[rich arch]

Its so good though

[minor flare]

I'm a fan of dobvra a.k.a sykov back in 2021 mw 2019 video

[rich arch]

I mean single fire not akimbo

[minor flare]

Semi-full auto

It doesn't make any sense cause pistol turn into semi-full auto

[austere igloo]

Not really

[rich arch]

Try this or something

[austere igloo]

Even single fire dobvra feels lacklustre

[rich arch]

Its basically an smg..

[minor flare]

It's a machine pistol

[austere igloo]

I don’t use the sorokin barrel or the 80rnd mag

[rich arch]

Then no wonder you dont like it

[austere igloo]

I don’t use akimbo with it either

[rich arch]

Those are the only reasons its good

[rich arch]

I dont either
Well not usually

[austere igloo]

Akimbo dobvra is cringe

[rich arch]

Frfr

[minor flare]

I don't like akimbo

[rich arch]

Consistently like 260ms kill

[minor flare]

Because it got nerf

[minor flare]

I dont use akimbo i use one pistol only

[rich arch]

Its pretty decent on the dobvra still since its a backup

Akimbo deagles are utterly useless

Akimbo fennec is just a waste of your primary slot

[minor flare]

Sorokin auto barrel is a machine pistol and it's highly recommend for Sniper Loadout

[rich arch]

Yeah, if you dont use that barrel its mid

[minor flare]

No it's fine

[rich arch]

Well no

[minor flare]

Cause im a huge fan of sykov pistol in mw 2019

[rich arch]

Similar ttk to automatic barrel but way more punishing to miss shots

[minor flare]

It burns a lot

[rich arch]

Burns?

[minor flare]

Dont worry about the 80 round

[minor flare]

Ammo consumption rate

[rich arch]

Oh

[minor flare]

It has high ammo consumption rate for cons

Base by dobvra sorokin barrel

[rich arch]

With 80 rds you can fire for quite a while

You dont need more than that really and the reload speed is still fast

[minor flare]

If you use lightweight double action and single action it will burn a lot of ammo

[rich arch]

I maxed out the fire rate and it lasts a good while

Its a backup so you won’t pull it out to wipe a team or anything anyways

[minor flare]

That pistol was a backup

It only recommend for primary like bolt action sniper rifle and semi auto sniper rifle

[rich arch]

Yeah

Id prefer a deagle or j358 for the range/instant kill but a full auto pistol wih a massive mag is pretty nice

[worthy grail]

Deagle>J358

Deagle has dumb broken aim assist, range and suppression

1 shot headshot too btw

[worthy grail]

This as a sniper secondary is horrible

The mobility is so bad

Use extended mag A and extended light barrel

[rich arch]

J358 has way better stats but deagle is just easier to use

[worthy grail]

The movement speed debuff is less or non existent

[narrow glen]

@worthy grail, 26 Server Rank

[worthy grail]

Better stats how?

[rich arch]

I paired it with an auto

[worthy grail]

Still slow

[worthy grail]

Why are you such a big fan of using the slowest possible attachments on a SECONDARY

[rich arch]

Its an smg so idm

[rich arch]

Range

[worthy grail]

You run slower than Fennec

[worthy grail]

Use your primary

[rich arch]

When I need to reload:

[worthy grail]

What gun are you using

[rich arch]

I swap guns a lot but currently

Razorback with j358 and pkm with deagle

[worthy grail]

So you’re telling me that you need 13 rounds of 300ms interval ammo for a primary that shoots kinda slow as f and has 200 bullets?

[rich arch]

I use base mag on pkm, and it has a 4 second reload or smth

[worthy grail]

You’re telling me that you’re so bad you need your secondary ammo to last 3.7 seconds

[rich arch]

💀

[worthy grail]

At which point you will be dead already

[rich arch]

I use pistols only for fun sometimes as well

This is just microcritizing, I showed range/damage stats I wasnt saying my builds were the best

[worthy grail]

Yeah but my point is that the range is unnecessary that’s all

[rich arch]

For the j358 it technically is, since it only has like 10m of one tap range when extended

Stopping power is so it one taps

Otherwise I have light trigger and tac laser so its not really slow

I run deagle as a pocket sks though, its lowkey a sniper for me

[austere igloo]

J358 is underrated ngl

That thing is on par with deagle in terms of power…except aim assist

[worthy grail]

Deagle is silenced less aim shake(just better at range)

[cursive kayak]

It's got a faster ttk in close range when you don't use SP rounds

The moment they remove the fire rate penalty on SP rounds is the day I use them permanently on my J358 builds

[unreal gale]

oh I have colours now!

nice

[thick anchor]

Morning

[narrow glen]

@thick anchor, 11 Server Rank

[thick anchor]

Which is the best marksman currently? (excl sks)

[minor flare]

I believe the sks is the accurate one

Also if you want use bolt action accurate then use Kilo bolt action

[unreal gale]

spr?

[rich arch]

Mk2 is not bad either

Can someone pull out the stats for both

[rich arch]

I'd say kba as they have the same hitbox but kba will have it for a longer range and it has better fire interval and ads time

[unreal gale]

what's kba

oh kilo bolt action

[austere igloo]

Good thing I don't use SP rounds on J358 then

[dusky pilot]

Who can make the build for agr

[mild iris]

Can I get a build for flashbang

[rich arch]

@ruby iris btw tried hvk in br…
It was good but I definitely prefer oden. Thanks for the rec though

[thick anchor]

I literally said excluding sks

[ruby iris]

Mk2 for aggressive
Spr for passive
Kba for inbetween

[wispy mist]

Can anyone give a good build for fennec

With close to no ads and least recoil possible

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Red dot
• Operator foregrip
• Extended magazine

[austere igloo]

Light stock
Mono supp
Rubberized
Mip 5mw laser
Ext mag

[austere igloo]

Spr

[rich arch]

Interesting

It seems that base mag actually has better ttk up to 11m.
But within the range 11m-21m the 10mm offers faster ttk

16-20m the 10mm offers significantly faster ttk

But up to 11m, the base seems better

So what should someone use

[austere igloo]

Not the 10mm mag

Just use this (universal build)

[rich arch]

You know that I'm talking about BR, right?

[austere igloo]

You did not say that

[rich arch]

It's obvious I think

[austere igloo]

It’s not

You’re not speaking for everyone

Obviously you made the chart so ofc you would know

But we’re not all-knowing

[rich arch]

Noone uses 10mm on MP

[austere igloo]

As it should be

[rich arch]

So it's obvious I'm speaking about BR

[austere igloo]

It still isn’t

[rich arch]

TTK, you want it for BR. More or less you know what's up for MP

[austere igloo]

I havent seen anyone using qq9 as custom in br

Mostly just cx-9

[rich arch]

And you probably have seen everyone using Kilo, Mac 10 and Grau in BR

[austere igloo]

Kilo yes, grau yes, mac no

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

The first 2 ars are not even in the good tier list for br

Alas, garenians are slow to catch on

Also I see more fennec users in br than mac users

[rich arch]

Qq9 is interesting in BR

Interesting hipfire spread and accuracy and ttk

[austere igloo]

Personally I find lapa more interesting

Ppl sleep on that smg in br…I’ve recently discovered its hidden potential in br

[rich arch]

Yes it's probably the best

Smg with fennec

[austere igloo]

According to isleep’s tier list lapa is right at the top of br guns

I’m honestly surprised echo & type25 are up there

All this while I’ve always thought echo to be the worst shotgun for br

[rich arch]

Yeah I know that's why I was talking about QQ9 because he placed it on Peak from the SC tier

[austere igloo]

Apparently not

& Type25 too…I havent used that gun in br for soooo long

[rich arch]

Yeah with Stopping Power

[austere igloo]

It’s good?

[rich arch]

It's the attachment that does all the job

I wanna know more things about QQ9 in BR because he had placed it lower initially but finally made it to Peak which is very interesting

[austere igloo]

Also I’m surprised dingo is in the strong tier

[rich arch]

Probably it's as good as lapa and fennec

[austere igloo]

I always thought it was just “workable”

[strong monolith]

Story on how I changed QQ9 rank:
I was tinkering around with proper combined shot percentages and found out that QQ9 will more often than not have a similar TTK to guns like Fennec and CX9

[strong monolith]

Its basically a worse S36
And even though its worse, its still a great performer for that reason

[rich arch]

It can three tap upper body so

With way better range performance

[austere igloo]

I’m kinda disappointed with gks’ ranking

[rich arch]

And way longer lasting mag

[rich arch]

That's very interesting

[strong monolith]

Well unfortunately a mediocre SMG TTK with a slow fire rate will do numbers on how well it performs

[austere igloo]

& hbr in that tier too…I’m surprised

[rich arch]

Oh this is for br

BR

The hbra3 is good in br?

[austere igloo]

I’ve never considered to be even close to “decent” let alone strong

[austere igloo]

Apparently….yes

[rich arch]

Its decent in mp but br too?

[strong monolith]

Similar case with Dingo, except swap S36 for AMAX

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

I havent seen hbr used in forever

[rich arch]

Sleep how does it compare to the s36

[austere igloo]

Both in mp & br

[strong monolith]

S36 demolishes it

[rich arch]

Ive used it bc its my fav gun but its basically just a kilo with bad range and bsa

[rich arch]

:/

okayyy compared to the amax then

[austere igloo]

So dingo is basically a poor man’s s36…just as hbr is to the amax

[rich arch]

My conclusion is that I will main the hbra3 in br now

[austere igloo]

My conclusion is that I shall continue using Lk24 in br

[strong monolith]

Compared to AMAX, it has worse TTK (1 extra shot to kill) and has quite a bit more horizontal recoil
Only advantage is that you can build it to handle faster than AMAX

[rich arch]

I love the hbra3 okay

Tgough I have the lk diamond and mastered too

[rich arch]

So basically the same

[austere igloo]

& I will also continue using lapa as my custom smg

[rich arch]

I dont use smgs for br ngl

[rich arch]

I always liked that ppl actually don't know what's actually truly meta in BR, because that gives you the advantage over them

[austere igloo]

Which is why I run s36 as my custom lmg in br to this day

[strong monolith]

Me who runs LK + QQ9

[austere igloo]

What’s the diff?

LK lapa & qq9 are all peak br guns

[rich arch]

Hows this

[austere igloo]

I’m using optic bcoz this gun’s base irons are suboptimal

[rich arch]

Sensical build

[austere igloo]

You mean sensible

[rich arch]

Hip Fire stack

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

Just do hipfire stack

[rich arch]

Im curious if sensical means the same now lol

[rich arch]

I rarely hipfire

Oh:/

[strong monolith]

I'd swap ranger for an optic
I cannot stand using irons on a ranged primary

[austere igloo]

Nope…that’s not even a real word

[austere igloo]

Me neither

[rich arch]

It is 💀

[rich arch]

Noice

Okay basically the same as sensible

[austere igloo]

I have diamond for this gun but I just prefer fluorescence

[rich arch]

Very fair

[rich arch]

…

I have diamond and uh

May I call you insane?

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

Insane for what?

[rich arch]

Fluorescence over diamond

[austere igloo]

Fyi, I have diamond for this gun too…but I choose to use the carbon fiber camo cuz it fits better

[austere igloo]

Wdym…they’re both top tier camos

[rich arch]

CARBON FIBER GAH

thats like the worst camo 😭

[austere igloo]

Nah nah that’s not the worst one

[rich arch]

Diamond is diamonds though

[rich arch]

Which is the worst iyo

[austere igloo]

This is the worst one ^

[rich arch]

Water camo is awesome..

[austere igloo]

Not this

[rich arch]

Im afraid we share different camo priorites

[austere igloo]

This is better anyway

[rich arch]

Ehh

Not as pretty a color

[austere igloo]

You like plain camos, I like shiny/glossy camos…

We’re not the same

[rich arch]

I like vibrance

[austere igloo]

Whatever it is, glacial camo is an L

[rich arch]

Now that you're speaking about Tournament camos... Why is lava not available?...

[rich arch]

Fair

[austere igloo]

WHAT

[rich arch]

Lava Tournament camo

[austere igloo]

Lava’s not available?!!

[rain wedge]

Any one for br

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

I love this gun
More kills than my m13 💀

It's not because when you go and pick the random Tournament crates it doesn't have all the camos

[austere igloo]

FUUUUCC

[rich arch]

The red sprite for example, the lava, they're all missing

[austere igloo]

I was gonna get another lava camo..

[austere igloo]

Well fuck me then

[austere igloo]

I know red sprite is no longer there coz they’re cycling thru camos

[strong monolith]

To summarize how QQ9 fares against LAPA and CX9
LAPA has high DPM and great hipfire
CX9 has the best raw TTK
QQ9 has a bit of both of these SMGs

[austere igloo]

But now they’ve done that for lava camo too?!!

[rich arch]

🔥

Perfect then

Makes me happy, I always liked qq9

[rich arch]

Yes unfortunately...

I needed it too...

If you do tournament grind and get some random selectable crates , try it out and let me know if you can actually select lava

[rich arch]

Btw parker made a video on Grau hipfire build

[rich arch]

I hated it for so long…

Whaaaa nooo

Trauma from reaching legendary in my first season when it was meta

I had no guns bc I was a newbie it ketp slaughtering me 💀

Also I didnt use audio

[strong monolith]

Oh hell no

[rich arch]

I cane around and love it now

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Nice

Yessir

Neon grunge and black gold sights both suck man they need a rework

It's the only gun with sx9 that maybe I prefer the default irons compared to the leggy/mythic variants

[rich arch]

True

They feel very comfortable

Though I hate switchblade irons I miss every shot with them 💀

[rich arch]

Yeah, I used to think they were bad but they grew on me 🤷‍♂️

Yeah

Also drh

That's why I also like the man o war cardinal sights

Because they look like drh's

[rich arch]

LMAO

I legit use drh for when I can’t aim bc those sights are 👌 🔥

There's also a gun on MW II that had a similar ironsight

Taq56

Probably a different version of the Scar weapon

[rich arch]

Krig x drh it seems

Or kilo x drh

I guess that's all for today