codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

This is so good on the type 25

It has bad horizontal recoil and bsa so like

Massive hit flinch buff too

[austere igloo]

people use type25??

[ruby iris]

You're gonna use type til like

[rich arch]

Its underrated in br and mp both

[ruby iris]

30m

[austere igloo]

the only time I see type25 is by bots

[ruby iris]

Br yes, mp no

[rich arch]

And when I have a full squad on me I appreciate a flinch buffer

[rich arch]

Uhh its really good at mp if you’re aggressive

[ruby iris]

Mp type is a qq9 with smaller mag and worse mobility

[rich arch]

Fairly true

Better range though

[ruby iris]

I have type diamond, it's dogshit

[rich arch]

M13 and qq9 crossbread

[ruby iris]

Lol no

Not even better range

[rich arch]

Well if I recall correctly you’re a passive player

So it would really suck

[ruby iris]

Im a passive player if i use passive guns

[rich arch]

Sync ads is practically a requirement for it to be good outside of super short range 💀

[rich arch]

Hmm alright

[ruby iris]

Type is dogshit regardless of playstyle

[rich arch]

Eh I like it

Satisfying firing sound too

[ornate jackal]

I find it better passive

[rich arch]

M13 would outclass it by far if youre going for a fast fire rate ar

[ornate jackal]

I was using type but i switched to amax due to mag being too small

[rich arch]

Eh amax is mid imo

[ruby iris]

Qq9 actually has better range

[rich arch]

Ugly too 💀

[ruby iris]

21.6 vs 20.4

[rich arch]

Type has better recoil and bsa though

[ruby iris]

Better recoil my ass

[rich arch]

And better sights for long range imo

Since the top isn’t so closed off

Maybe thats just sync ads making the sights tiny though

[ruby iris]

Worse aimshake

[rich arch]

Sync ads:

Without sync it was mid

[ruby iris]

Only valid thing is better bsa, and bsa is irrelevant in close range aggressive

[ruby iris]

Sync ads makes it worse

[rich arch]

…

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

That doesnt make sense ngl

[ruby iris]

The gun shake has 0 correlation to how much zoom it has

View model thing

[rich arch]

Well turn down the kick view as well

Unless theres a red dot I dont notice aim shake with sync

[ruby iris]

Yes, kick view is the only thing affecting aimshake

Aimshake is the same regardless of sync fov or not
But you have a smaller target with sync, making aimshake worse

I thought this is widely known fact

[rich arch]

Tbh I just notice recoil for the most part

[rich arch]

No ik it I just dont notice it

Same with hit flinch, like, its supposed to be an issue but I dont notice it unless im using a sniper

[ornate jackal]

Do u use the reduced hit flinch perk

[rich arch]

Nah I use ghost usually

Or cold blooded

[dawn furnace]

Hi, I’m new, can anyone recommend me the best smg at the moment and a possible class please

[umbral obsidian]

Cx9 sx9

[austere igloo]

switchblade

light stock
extended mag
granulated
extended barrel
tactical supp

[vale lichen]

Cx9?

I won't recommend it

[umbral obsidian]

Yes with the 9 mag thing

Hollow mag

[vale lichen]

I hate that gun for some reason

[dawn furnace]

Qq9 is bad?

[austere igloo]

[spiral pulsar]

Any cordite build?

[austere igloo]

no its not

qq9 good

[vale lichen]

No best smg if you ask me

[austere igloo]

ye qq9 def not best

[vale lichen]

Sx9 for no recoil bots

/s

[spiral pulsar]

Who have a cordite build

[austere igloo]

@spiral pulsar knock yourself out

[spiral pulsar]

Ight ty

[austere igloo]

you can change the mag to 80 round mag if you want

[dawn furnace]

Usually I play qq9 but I think that I have a slightly exotic class

[whole karma]

Have any AK117 build for mp?

[austere igloo]

I use this

[dawn furnace]

Thank u

[austere igloo]

This can work too

[dawn furnace]

Thanks u save me

While the best ar? Sorry to bother but I started play again after a year and I don’t know anything anymore hahaha

[idle lily]

Grau, kilo

[dawn furnace]

Thanks

[austere igloo]

in mp, grau

[austere igloo]

Sheesh

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo

[austere igloo]

#codm-discussion

[dusty heart]

Goes harder in diamond

[eternal idol]

No I'm perms

[dusty heart]

When I make it level 5 it’ll be even more badass

[eternal idol]

Tomo 🫂🫂

[austere igloo]

Should I continue using diamond or use the other camo

[eternal idol]

This looks sickkk

[dusty heart]

What about aether

[eternal idol]

Wait a min...meta Grau changed ?

I thought it's tempus and no stock/rds

[eternal idol]

Ooh

[dusty heart]

That’s how I use it

I don’t copy builds unless that’s the only way the gun works

[eternal idol]

Oh ok. Will change mine too. Tired of using the same one lol.

[austere igloo]

Should I use this or just continue using diamond?

[dusty heart]

Keep it base or diamond ngl

[austere igloo]

Fair enough

[dusty heart]

Mythic switchblade theme song is fire too I realized a while ago

[unreal gale]

Not a fan of it ngl

[austere igloo]

Ye it is

[dusty heart]

I mean if it’s matched with leggy nyx

[ornate jackal]

So outside of wounding is this pretty standard

[unreal gale]

Eh maybe, but I think diamond looks kinda messy on that skin

[austere igloo]

Where no stock?

[unreal gale]

Has too many pieces

[ornate jackal]

Thats why im asking idk what it runs

[austere igloo]

The standard amax build is

No stock
Mono
Laser
Ext mag
Granulated

[ornate jackal]

Im doing wounding tho for when im having a skill issue

[austere igloo]

I use this an alt build for amax

[ruby iris]

Disable > wounding

[dusty heart]

Who the hell legalized wounding on amax

I thought it was a joke

[austere igloo]

No one, lel

[ornate jackal]

Got it from Bryan, started using wounding on one loadout ironically for whenever i play bad and can’t finish kills

[tawny walrus]

Look how they massacred my boy…

[ornate jackal]

Which laser is best for chopper

Rn im using tac laser but is it better than ykm ranger?

[tired grove]

Tactical Laser better

In my opinion

[rich arch]

Test

[ornate jackal]

Im closing in on u lmao

[tired grove]

And in fourth there is @0k

[ornate jackal]

Yep, i wouldve stopped grinding when i reached leggy but im curious to see how much passive grinding i can do to get top 5k

[tired grove]

Oh

I’m close to Legendary

My goal is to get the DRH Kurohana 68

[rich arch]

Deleted me

[weary aurora]

continue to use diamond

[weary aurora]

Hvk

1. Hvk
2. Grau
   3.LK/Kilo

Best AR’s imo

If your accuracy is solid then def Hvk if not could look at the other cause the Hvk is really good when full potential is brought out can’t do that if the player can’t handle it

[tawny walrus]

Tactical.

[worn jungle]

Hey what would be the best Hvk build ?

[rich arch]

what build would u guys use for the grau mythic one?

[weary aurora]

Mono
MIP Light
Combat Stock
Large Cal Ammo
Gran grip

[worn jungle]

👍

[rich arch]

I use archangel barrel, no stock, cronen rear grip, 50 mag, laser/tactical suppressor

People say nexus barrel good too I prefer archangels range but try it out ig

Same as base gun build

[pale minnow]

Anyone has M4 attachments for mp?

[unique schooner]

Grenade launcher

[rich arch]

Can you use that in BR?

[unique schooner]

Yes

[mellow fractal]

Won't it be a good idea to have the perk that restores tactical grenades n stuff over time also restore the grenades on that attachment slowly

[unique schooner]

It doesn't work like that

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
Light barrel (short)
40-50 mag
Tac laser
Gran

[pale minnow]

Thank you kind sir!

[narrow glen]

@pale minnow, 9 Server Rank

[umbral obsidian]

Yep

[formal river]

💀

[young dragon]

Best DLQ quick ADS build?

[rich arch]

Ads attachments and I guess fmj for the 5th one

[strange solstice]

A sniper can use without zooming?

And when I see 3 ppl in one place should I use 1the mini gun or2 use the bomb then go with a low range wepeon?

[shadow hound]

pay to lose skin

[formal river]

Fr

They can at least balance it

[viscid belfry]

bc of scope right?

worse than space cap skin

[formal river]

Yes

[viscid belfry]

its similar to the bp koshka

[frigid cloud]

Anyo.r up for br wit a bot🥲

[formal river]

My build from 2 or 3 years ago. Thoughts?

[celest blade]

💀💀💀

bsa is dead on the floor terrible optic and why fmj on an smg

[ornate jackal]

Calm down he said 2 years ago

[celest blade]

i saw the build then read the message mb 😭

[tawny isle]

if you played pre-gunsmith, fmj was actually pretty useful

and foregrips as well

[celest blade]

aware of this, but i’m taking it in current context lol

foregrips are never not op tbh

[austere igloo]

Dated build is dated

[austere igloo]

Yes

[dusty heart]

Is that a challenge?

Watch me hit 10k tomorrow

[ornate jackal]

Guess i just gotta surpass u tonight then

[dusty heart]

Nah I’m doing hp now instead of tdm

[ornate jackal]

Ah damn

[formal river]

Yep

[rich arch]

Rate my old gunsmiths

[formal river]

I just question the laser

Rate mine

This was way before I got gold for this

[austere igloo]

Wtf is this build

And wtf perk is that

[formal river]

Idk

This was 3 years ago

I question myself looking at it

[ornate jackal]

Extended mag bullet return 🗣️

[austere igloo]

3 years ago? no wonder

[formal river]

Yea

[austere igloo]

also now that you say that, it makes me feel old

[formal river]

This is the build I use

[austere igloo]

it doesn't even feel that long ago that I started codm...in 2019

[ornate jackal]

When u get a kill you can get ur bullet back. Bryan did a vid on it he got like 16 shots without reloading on some sr or marksman using it. Good for smaller mag snipers but still better to use like fmj or soh

[austere igloo]

hell, 2020-2021 still feels like it was a week ago

[formal river]

Ikr

[ornate jackal]

I use bullet return for mp rytec thats it tho

[formal river]

I’m gonna go find some other old builds

[rich arch]

Lol

Couldnt find my by15 build:/

[ornate jackal]

I dont need to find old builds i have some current ones that have been questionable

My m4lmg build has always been crazy too i just experiment sometimes and go off standard

There are a bunch of guns however that are better standardized

[formal river]

I tried remaking Hadir’s sniper from MW2019

Some other old builds

[fervent scarab]

someone else noticed that shots don't registrate and personal alot of desync?

[austere igloo]

wow...these 'old' builds are just..wtf

[formal river]

Ikr

[austere igloo]

no

[fervent scarab]

bruhh

[austere igloo]

you must have high ping then

check your internet

[fervent scarab]

how do i have it on mp

[austere igloo]

& it's register, not registrate

[fervent scarab]

my internet is fast i have a ping counter and fps

[austere igloo]

yr connection

[fervent scarab]

mb

[austere igloo]

then Idk

[fervent scarab]

i use my s23 ultra

[austere igloo]

I don't have issues with desync or ping

[fervent scarab]

for some reason i do

[austere igloo]

even tho my internet connection isn't the fastest

[fervent scarab]

i'm just gonna download a game booster

[formal river]

Found one more

[viscid belfry]

lol when u build it for first time seems good but when u get experience u see its so bad

[celest blade]

besides the suppressor the build isn’t terrible

[narrow glen]

@celest blade, 13 Server Rank

[silver spear]

Bro tell the truth

[upper osprey]

Pp19 is so gooddddd

I use
mono suppressor
no stock
large carbier
light long barrel
Sleight of hand

[kindred estuary]

i disagree plus on br u can just find extended ammo mod for sniper

[rich arch]

Large caliber is a waste on the bizon as is soh

Use gran grip tape and imo a laser

[formal river]

Fr

[celest blade]

yep

[formal river]

I found even more old builds

I know all of them are bad. They were made 2 or 3 years ago

[ornate jackal]

Hold up u might be cooking with that lmg build

[formal river]

Minus the laser?

[jovial spruce]

Damm

[rich arch]

What is your recommended dlq33 gunsmith?

[jovial spruce]

Owc light suppressor
MIP light
YKM combat stock
Fast switch
OWC tactical laser

If you wanna play passive switch out fast switch for fmj and take off the laser

[rich arch]

Thank you.

[jovial spruce]

You're welcome

[rich arch]

I use amped so I was wondering if should use fmj instead of fast switch?

[kindred estuary]

yes or you can change amped to toughness

[jovial spruce]

Eh yeah amped should be enough

[rich arch]

Yeah I find amped and fast switch to be a little excessive.

Any suggestions for mw11 build?

[jovial spruce]

Yeah but you gotta wait

[ornate jackal]

I need a build for hbr two actually. One with sig attachment and one without

Id prefer if the one without had rds

[ornate jackal]

On either gran can be optic, or perk, or ammo even If u swap the perk i recommend wounding.

The 1st one is more so based on if u want it to be faster with movement speed

[rich arch]

I was wanting one for sniper secondary

[ornate jackal]

So for speed?

[narrow glen]

@ornate jackal, 40 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Speed and versatility

[jovial spruce]

MIP light flash guard
.45 tac long
MIP laser 5mw
Lightweight trigger
20 round reload

This is what I use

[ornate jackal]

If u want an extra attachment then take off tape, use mip laser and then u have a free slot of choice

If u dont need a suppressor then that it also a free slot

[austere igloo]

mw11

[rich arch]

You dropped this 👑

[austere igloo]

A crown for using mw11?

Don’t insult him like that, he deserves better than a crown

[rich arch]

It's because he was helpful

[austere igloo]

[jovial spruce]

Scroll up

[rich arch]

Passive or aggressive?

[jovial spruce]

Owc light suppressor
MIP light
YKM combat stock
Fast switch
OWC tactical laser

If you wanna hardscope use another rifle

No I artic when I'm hardscoping

That thing is sooo underrated

Yeah but only for hardscoping

[rich arch]

Dlq is great for hardscoping if you want a more passive build use
Ykm combat stock
Fmj
Extended mag A
Owc suppressor
Mip light

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 8 Server Rank

[jovial spruce]

The bolt animation and slow rate fire kinda makes it useless for hardscoping in my opinion

[rich arch]

Locus is pros favorite for rushing but I find the dlq to work great

[jovial spruce]

I mean hardscoping and rushing don't go hand in hand

Yknow ?

[rich arch]

I just use amped + my previous build and it's good for hardscoping and aggro playstyle

[jovial spruce]

Yeah maybe I misunderstood his definition of hardscoping

Cause it generally means holding an angle

While not moving alot

[rich arch]

Also to get rid of crosshair drift while hardscopong just under scope and resscope no need for iron lungs

[jovial spruce]

Yeah iron lungs are useless

[rich arch]

un scope

[rich arch]

And Skulker is better for snd and movement combined with dead silence

Or lightweight

It's not impossible to hardscope with laser but you have to rely on flicks

[austere igloo]

I have that on my sniper loadout

[jovial spruce]

Why

I mean I always use flak jacket

It's the best red perk in my opinion

Dauntless is pretty good too

[minor flare]

Iron lungs is a better red perk for competitive

Cause I've see competitive use iron lungs

[jovial spruce]

I just don't get why some one would use it

[minor flare]

If you know how to use it effectively

In codm championship 2023

[jovial spruce]

You can negate any cross hair drift by Quickly unscoping and rescoping

[minor flare]

Hdr and zrg 20mm are the best bet for iron lungs

It takes like 6 seconds for iron lungs without an attachment

Or 4 seconds

[jovial spruce]

Well as I've said before you can negate crosshair drift

[narrow glen]

@jovial spruce, 30 Server Rank

[minor flare]

You can release the scope button and press scope button again

[jovial spruce]

Yeah

I just think there are better red perks

[minor flare]

If you hardscoping for too long you'll be stationary target

Use a right secondary weapons

Like nail gun and lcar9 and also Dobrva

2 guns aren't hitscan

[jovial spruce]

Yeah hardscoping for a long time is a recipe for disaster

[minor flare]

1 gun are also hitscan

[jovial spruce]

I don't hardscope that often

[minor flare]

I'm also hardscoping with zrg 20mm

[jovial spruce]

But when I do I just use a deagle and my trusty artic50

[minor flare]

Camera recoil is a serious

Unless you miss the target

[jovial spruce]

Ik

[minor flare]

Shorty is a hitmark machine shotgun secondary

Cause I've see competitive use it back in 2021

[jovial spruce]

I used to use shorty as my secondary

It was pretty good ngl

[minor flare]

It takes like 1 to 2 stk

For spamming bullet

Or pellet

You can deal as 1v1 situation

[jovial spruce]

But I think the deagle is still the best secondary

[minor flare]

It's only use smg and sg

For combination Loadout

[jovial spruce]

Anyway igtg

It was nice talking to you

[minor flare]

Yeah

[jovial spruce]

Cheers

[austere igloo]

Same

It’s the sniper I’m running now

It’s so much more satisfying to land kills with than the boring-ahh dlq

[minor flare]

Dlq is a versatile but it's boring

[young dragon]

late reply but tyy

[austere igloo]

Ye

[ruby iris]

Dlq isnt versatile

Cant spam shots

[austere igloo]

Idc

[violet topaz]

who got OTs9 br build

[sacred spear]

@violet topaz
Join ecod discord

Ak-47
Now recoil
Muzzle - OWC light compensetor
Barrel - OWC marksman
Optic - Classic red dot sight
Underbarrel - ranger foregrip
Rear grip - Rubberized grip tape

[dense jolt]

Any hvk build

[tight bison]

What about Optics ?

[tired grove]

MIP Light barrel
Monolithic suppressor
OWC Laser Tactical/disable
Large caliber mag
Granulated grip tape

If you want to use a optic, just remove the laser

[cerulean atlas]

Qxr build?

[narrow glen]

@cerulean atlas, 2 Server Rank

[copper jacinth]

What's the best mid to long range smg? If smth like that exists lmao. Don't need metas I just want a gun that feels nice

[ruby iris]

[half fulcrum]

Try Lapa

Underrated weapon

[strong monolith]

So uhm
I might need to reevaluate my ranking for HVK

[midnight snow]

mvp always gettin stolen

[rich arch]

How does one manage to get 11% accu in snd 💀🙏

Oh wait it's not even the gallery

Goofy ahh
Ignore my image

[rich arch]

Are you high?
Tf is that build

[split shard]

Anyone got no recoil gunsmith for Krig

[midnight snow]

i was playing on a new hud n why tf does accuracy matter if u get the kill n nor was I sniping to get a higher accuracy

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

Is there a Chicom Loadout that is objectively the best? I promise I'm not crazy.

[ruby iris]

Hitbox requirement?

[rich arch]

I just hate seeing such a low accuracy it makes me feel insecure about my skill

Cause I get high accuracy but die and choke a lot

[strong monolith]

Not that much harder than DR-H

[midnight snow]

cookie?

[rich arch]

What

[rich arch]

Just wanted to try out the Chicom and get good at it so that I get aim practice.

[midnight snow]

u snipe?

[brazen vortex]

Hello

[rich arch]

Sometimes

Mostly using ars and smgs (I'm a crackhead that pushes everything)

[ruby iris]

Standard build?

[strong monolith]

I noticed that there is quite a bit of recoil at the end of the spray
So I would swap tac laser for ranger fg

[ruby iris]

[minor flare]

Use
monolithic suppressor or tactical suppressor
owc ranger or mip short barrel
owc laser or optics
5.45 caliber and 50 mags
Granulated grip tape

[midnight snow]

💀

[rich arch]

Best sniper + class for quick scoping?

[rich arch]

Any meta Chicom Loadout? I don't really know what fits so I came here to ask.

[tawny walrus]

Try this.

[rich arch]

Wow you got it to master so I give you my full trust.

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 6 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Wha

[tawny walrus]

I have all weapons mastered (except NA-45).

[undone sandal]

consider using it this season

demo expert got buffed

[rich arch]

That Loadout made me win a 1v5 in Search and Rescue, that is a crazy one.

[tawny walrus]

I’ll use it only if someone pay me full mythic price.

[tired grove]

You can’t use NA45, because if you use it, you can’t be friends

[tawny walrus]

You’re playing SnD? I’d recommend changing tactical laser to something else. Sleight of hand or red dot for example.

[kindred estuary]

very impressive

[rich arch]

I'll try sleight of hand, I don't like using scopes.

[ornate jackal]

Search and rescue is available?

[rich arch]

Yes

[ornate jackal]

Awesome love that mode

[austere igloo]

why

[strong monolith]

Previously I stated that HVK LC has meh TTK for its mag size but that is because of a miscalculation I made
After checking again, it is actually a lot better than I thought

[ruby iris]

Better than s36?

[strong monolith]

Nah S36 still better

[ruby iris]

Oof

[strong monolith]

Not by a lot tho

[rich arch]

That's for br though, right?

[strong monolith]

Yep

[ruby iris]

Me waiting for a gun to get randomly buffed and dethrone the s36

[austere igloo]

never

[ruby iris]

Imagine something goofy and hg40 hits 34+ til inf

[austere igloo]

I shall never let that day see the light

[ruby iris]

With 1000+m/s bv

[strong monolith]

Bruen: hello

[ruby iris]

And god tier bsa

[austere igloo]

s36 has always been & always shall be the king of br lmgs

[austere igloo]

you cannot convince me otherwise

[ruby iris]

I mean absolutely destroy s36, like not even a close battle

Like sub 900ms til inf

[austere igloo]

that is only possible in a parallel universe

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

not in this one

[austere igloo]

yes

[ruby iris]

S36 got a goofy buff and became god tier out of no where

Noone said that cant happen to another gun

[austere igloo]

also forget dethroning s36

I want something to dethrone dlq in mp

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

Xpr

[austere igloo]

that sniper is boring & skillless

[ruby iris]

Koshka

Fucking zrg

[austere igloo]

[ornate jackal]

Pkm where

[ornate jackal]

When m4lmg gets buffed again it will trust🙏

[strong monolith]

Ok so I just tried HVK LC
And it is lowkey a beast
Think Oden but without the punishing fire rate

As a tradeoff, your DPM is poor

[tawny walrus]

I love AMAX, but it definitely needs a buff.

ADS time is slow.

[austere igloo]

pkm isn't even anywhere near that throne

[ruby iris]

Pkm was the best lmg in br for a while

Pre s36

[tawny walrus]

PKM can ignore walls with FMJ.

[full gale]

Guys can i have Grau logout

[viscid belfry]

any?

[full gale]

Ye

[ruby iris]

Any

[viscid belfry]

damn

[maiden ocean]

Tac supp
Archangel barrel
Strikelite stock
50 round mag
Gran grip tape/tac laser

[tired grove]

I'm liking this AR from now

[modest moss]

Want mates who can play multiplayer matches strategically, i have some strategies but want people who like playing like that

Anyone up ?

[tired grove]

Tactical suppressor
Archangel barrel/Nexus barrel
Classic red dot/Strikelite stock
50 round mags
Cronsen sniper elite

[full gale]

Thank you

[rich arch]

Hi, bye

[rich arch]

Tell him with a red dot. Grau's iron sight sucks

[agile rivet]

LOL^

Sometimes I wonder if people here are being legitimate or trolling but then against most people on here are casuals and are mid plauers

[rich arch]

That's not true. Some people here are just codm gods.

[agile rivet]

Definitely not you @rich arch

[rich arch]

I never said I'm .

[tired grove]

Someone give me a BR Groza build, please?

[rich arch]

Definitely not you either.

[rich arch]

Wasn't 5mw a hip fire laser?

[little bison]

how? its usable?

unless your using default look yea it sucks

but if you use archangel barrel its goated

[formal river]

Fr

[ocean narwhal]

turn off default look

[narrow glen]

@ocean narwhal, 36 Server Rank

[formal river]

Not all of them

[tawny isle]

you suck

[rich arch]

No.

[tawny walrus]

It is.

Groza is only useful at close ranges.

[formal river]

You’re not wrong

[rich arch]

Makes sense

The lateral recoil is too hard to control for long ranges

[proven furnace]

top weapons goals of the season for br

[tawny walrus]

Huh?

[tired grove]

Thanks a lot

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[ornate jackal]

Doesnt even need fmj tbh

[dusty heart]

@unreal gale Grau makes hp so much easier

[tawny walrus]

It’s more efficient though.

[rocky cypress]

real.

[unreal gale]

yeah I agree. The fact that you can just spam makes it lowkey better than hvk

depends on the map though

[vale lichen]

Skill issue

[unreal gale]

for longer more open maps like firing or diesel, grau is great

[rich arch]

Didn't ask

[unreal gale]

but for more closed maps like summit etc hvk is still better imo

[tawny walrus]

Eww, Grau…

[tawny walrus]

Will be praying that it will be nerfed to hell as soon as possible.

[unreal gale]

I'm getting the mythic soon so I hope not lol

[tawny walrus]

Good for me that I won’t touch ranked anymore (at least for this season).

[vale lichen]

Well, clearly my psychic abilities are failing me today.I will have to work on predicting when I should care about your opinion

[tawny walrus]

Grau abusers really shaken up my mental state.

[vale lichen]

M-13 heart broken

[tawny walrus]

Had to equip Grau for my reserve loadout.

[rich arch]

🤦🤦

[unreal gale]

M13 is MID

super mid

great in br, average in mp

[vale lichen]

SX-9 of AR

[rich arch]

I somehow can't handle grau

[vale lichen]

I hate all grau kids

[unreal gale]

use this build

[vale lichen]

Only love it when i am using it

[rich arch]

I have mythic

[vale lichen]

True i am struggling to keep up my kd on MP

[unreal gale]

the recoil goes the opposite way to most guns, so just shoot some bots in training range

[rich arch]

Instead of reddot, what can I take?

[vale lichen]

Sniper elite Stock

[rich arch]

Thx

[unreal gale]

Still keep the same attachments, but pick up a perk

[tawny walrus]

I tried this setup (but without red dot) and didn’t like it. It feels so slow.

So I built it for flex AR.

[unreal gale]

try it with the red dot

[tawny walrus]

• Tactical suppressor
• Nexus barrel
• XLK
• Tactical laser
• 50 mag

[unreal gale]

unless you're scrimming or know your wall bangs, probably go with disable or soh or btw something

[tawny walrus]

Laserphobic left the chat

[unreal gale]

eh nah, I think archangel is staple

the range boost is too nice to pass on

[tawny walrus]

I’ll reconsider it.

I think this barrel is going to be nerfed.

Damage multipliers will be reduced.

[vale lichen]

Grau nerf is coming soon

[tawny walrus]

Grau abusers will survive next season. But they won’t after it.

There are no any Grau changes have been detected in the test server.

[vale lichen]

Well it expected they just released the mythic variant

So another season without nerf

Hope they leave HVK out of it

[tawny walrus]

Bru…

[vale lichen]

In my region no actually use it

Rarely 2 in 10 matches

I don't understand the purpose of using fast mag or other mag with it

[tawny walrus]

Maybe they just mistaken it with high caliber one.

[vale lichen]

Literally free kills

[fiery ferry]

M4LMG-1C4A6C8A9A

[vale lichen]

Equalizer == 2xHVK on steroids

[fiery ferry]

Try this obe

One

[formal river]

@subtle nebula replace the fore grip with the tac laser or gran. grip

[narrow glen]

@formal river, 32 Server Rank

[wintry abyss]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

like half the people are using Grau

hope it gets nerfed

[formal river]

Damage range got nerfed a bit

[wintry abyss]

it's still really good

[formal river]

True

[tawny walrus]

It can’t be even called a nerf.

That’s not serious.

[formal river]

I feel like it’s better when a different gun gets buffed

Rather than the meta weapon being nerfed, but that’s just my opinion

For example: M13

[subtle nebula]

There is no gran. Grip on grau

[minor depot]

Is disable good perk for pp19 bizon?

I have seen ferg use it too

[umbral obsidian]

The one that increase bsa by 11 percent

[umbral obsidian]

It’s ok

But people do use it

[minor depot]

Is it recommended to use?

[subtle nebula]

Thx

[minor depot]

Like i heard its good for lmgs

[umbral obsidian]

It’s ok I don’t use it but you may

Ik cbr people use it

[minor depot]

Ok and is pinpoint recommended with pp19?

[wintry abyss]

if you play a bit more passively

I usually use it

[ornate jackal]

Standoff where

[ornate jackal]

No

Recoil and bsa is good on bizon

[astral bronze]

Shotguns > every other gun

[unreal gale]

standoff too

but since most people prefer to just stick with one gun one build, hvk is the go to (if you're f2p)

[rich arch]

So what you're saying is that if I want to master a gun and become pro with it hvk is the one to go for?

[ornate jackal]

How do u feel when u miss and die

[rich arch]

[ornate jackal]

Or when u do 7 damage at 23m cause u accidentally hit their left elbow

[unreal gale]

okay not if you want to go pro since the gun is banned in comp for being broken

but if you want to destroy in ranked as a ranked warrior, then yes

[minor depot]

So then skulker or lightweight which one?

[unreal gale]

skulker

[ornate jackal]

Skulker only if ur doing dead silence

[unreal gale]

bizon you're trying to stack strafe

and skulker makes you strafe like 12% faster

[ornate jackal]

How

Skulkers increased walking speed

[unreal gale]

doesn't it also increase ads movement speed?

[rich arch]

dlq

[unreal gale]

wait no way, have I been trolling this whole time 💀

[unreal gale]

dlq won't get you anywhere lol

super niche gun on very specific maps and modes

[ornate jackal]

No just checked

Walking crouching

[unreal gale]

well then it's a snd only perk rip

[ornate jackal]

Nah cause sound spreads still horrible up close only useful is also using dead silence

[unreal gale]

ig

but I think in hp ds is pretty overrated

[ornate jackal]

Agile, dauntless, or lightweight whichever suits u best

[unreal gale]

everyone is spamming grenades anyway. You can't hear anything so no one listens to footsteps lol

[astral bronze]

I dont

[ornate jackal]

Whats ds

Ah nvm

[astral bronze]

I play all mods btw

[ornate jackal]

Which shotgun do u use

[unreal gale]

if you don't miss, try sks

[astral bronze]

I'm the man your afraid of in snr

[unreal gale]

it's pretty strong if you don't miss

by15 slug is also great if you don't miss

[astral bronze]

Nah shotgun 1 shot is better

[unreal gale]

but guess what? That's bs.

[astral bronze]

I use krwhatever it's called

[unreal gale]

krm

[astral bronze]

Idk

[ornate jackal]

Sks 2 taps all ranges, the best shotgun doesnt 1 tap all ranges without head i think

[unreal gale]

just by15 slug

literally most broken thing in the game if you don't miss

[astral bronze]

I started using shotguns in tourney won 8 in a row

[unreal gale]

I have a friend who basically doesn't miss. He drops 70 kills in t1 scrims with a bloody by15 lol

[unreal gale]

you know you're playing against bots right?

[astral bronze]

Shotgun tops everything

[ornate jackal]

I dont honestly use shotguns, but im gonna grind plat soon, after marksman

Im honest enough to say i dont have the skill to use any shotgun other than argus or jak in ranked

[astral bronze]

Nah bro I am legendary most players are real

[unreal gale]

try by15 slug

[ornate jackal]

R9 maybe.

[unreal gale]

it's basically a high mobility marksman

[ornate jackal]

U realize i said “im not accurate”

[unreal gale]

that's the only shotgun I think is viable

[astral bronze]

Use a higher sense

[ornate jackal]

Thats why i havent even gotten marksman platinum yet

[unreal gale]

I mean it's literally point and click. Use a red dot for qol

[ornate jackal]

It is

[astral bronze]

And incorporate movement

[ornate jackal]

I need like a scope idk

[unreal gale]

go try it out in shipment.

[astral bronze]

It's fun to see players rage

[unreal gale]

by15 red dot with slug

[astral bronze]

And disconnect

[ornate jackal]

Oh yeah i could do it in shipment no prob just not in ranked

[astral bronze]

Don't use a scope on a shotgun

[unreal gale]

fair

[astral bronze]

Just tap fire don't ads

[ornate jackal]

Id be a liability

[unreal gale]

shotguns just aren't worth it

might as well go with fennec/cx9

wait, I just realised both fennec and cx9 are super p2w lol

[astral bronze]

Ye

Stick to switchblade

[rich arch]

what about cordite

[ornate jackal]

Uh i think cordite has bad flinch and bsa i dont remember

Havent used it in a while

If u want a high mag smg just use bizon tbh

[unreal gale]

pretty mid

on paper the gun is good, but it feels like crap ngl

go with ffar instead

[peak brook]

Cordite has this weird feel to it where one moment it's fun next moment it's.. meh

[wintry abyss]

cx9 base sight isn't that bad

but the fennec one is horrendous

[unreal gale]

I think it's pretty bad. I guess the gun doesn't exactly need a super clean sight since you're taking close range fights anyway, but you can barely seen anything

[maiden ocean]

It's exactly the opposite for me

Fennec has a wayy better ironsight than cx9

[maiden ocean]

OMG so damn true, I never liked the gun bcs of reasons even I don't know

[rich arch]

what's the best snd weapon

[wintry abyss]

SKS!!1!1!1!1!!1

[narrow glen]

@wintry abyss, 25 Server Rank

[rich arch]

I wish blud it's nerfed now

[wintry abyss]

still my favourite

[wintry abyss]

it got nerfed?

wait where

[rich arch]

it's definitely nerfed somehow been using it for 2 years

we believe it was bullet speed

[wintry abyss]

the bullet speed feels completely normal for me

[rich arch]

From far range?

[wintry abyss]

I mean

not in br

[rich arch]

it used to be really GOOD now it's just GOOD

[jovial spruce]

Hvk is still pretty reliable

Other than the hvk cx9 and ak are pretty good too

[rich arch]

pass me your hvk class big boi

[maiden ocean]

Mono supp
Light barrel
Strike stock
LC ammo
Gran grip tape/tac laser

Always works

[rich arch]

Noice

[rich arch]

I think sniper bullet speed kinda sucks now

Instead of sks use xpr though

[rich arch]

Can I use your build as well so I can try

plzy plzz

[rich arch]

Yeah ofc

Foregrip is just personal choice

Use operator or tac foregrip if you prefer them

I just got for ultra stability and range

that's going in my notes, Nice Damascus

[rich arch]

Alrighty, and yeah I had to sweat for a month back in September

[wintry abyss]

is Damascus worth it

[rich arch]

1 Month? Holy Sniper

[rich arch]

I had like 20 golds from just playing for years so yeah

Pretty fast to complete if you do shipment hardpoint for grinding

And crossfire or something for longshots

you're a beast

[rich arch]

I mean, its a decent camo for all your guns and a lowkey flex, also its satisfying to be a completionist

But it is a mindnumbing grind thatll take days, weeks, or months depending on how much you play

[wintry abyss]

heard that it was mental torture

[rich arch]

Well for me it was fun to learn more about every gun

[wintry abyss]

I have troubles just getting gold for guns I like

[rich arch]

…shorty, all the launchers especially d13 sector and thumper, and na@45 were the painful okes

[rich arch]

Shipment grind?

[wintry abyss]

yeah and crossfire

I have like 20 golds probably rn

[rich arch]

Just determined lol I took forever

[rich arch]

Ah yeah thats the right maps

Can take like 30 mins to an hour per gun

[wintry abyss]

still difficult af

[rich arch]

Yeah if you really want the camo or to be completionist then do it or you can do it off and on, not worth it if its just horrible the whole time though ☠️

[wintry abyss]

Imma just grind it casually

I have 41 rn

[rich arch]

Alrighty

[rich arch]

Not bad not bad

[wintry abyss]

mostly melees

[rich arch]

Those were pretty hard for me lol

For launchers just use launcher plus perk in shipment or rust

Or any 10v10 mode

[wintry abyss]

alr

people spam scorestreKs

[rich arch]

Thats the downside

[wintry abyss]

streaks

[wintry abyss]

no not for launcher

[rich arch]

But if its bots then it shouldnt be too hard to get double kills

[wintry abyss]

amazing for launcher grinding

[rich arch]

Oh for scorestreak destroys shipment hp or dom is by far best

[wintry abyss]

oki thx

[rich arch]

Np

[unique schooner]

@maiden agate i need a opinion

[sinful reef]

Which red dot sight is the best one

[wintry abyss]

classic

there's really not much difference

use one that has a larger sight and doesn't block you

[unreal gale]

classic has minimal zoom

[wintry abyss]

ok

[unreal gale]

I think that's why most people prefer it

it is also super clean xD

[wintry abyss]

I had a bit of ocd

just a bit

and I used to not be able to stand classic because it looked ugly

but now it's my fav one

[unreal gale]

I used to use red dot 1 a lot

but the zoom kinda throws me off

[wintry abyss]

same

[unreal gale]

red dot 4 is also a good one

[ocean narwhal]

classic holo the best

[rich arch]

@rich arch

Thx

Np

[native canopy]

Is the legendary recommendation of the J358 good?

[celest blade]

usually the legendary builds aren’t great

either check the recommended build or the use the one i sent earlier

[celest blade]

classic is more or less just the square version of every mythic digi sight ever

it’s so damn clean

[viscid belfry]

ew

[native canopy]

Some of them seem good

[rich arch]

Seem is an understatement

They're shit at most

The new mythics have a good base build once

Or a good build once you upgrade them to level one

Legendary weapons will at most have 2 good attachments on as a part of base look

[ornate jackal]

Nah any basic weapon with usage gets good leggy recommended

But then u have stuff like mw11, gks, and ak47 which become questionable

[rich arch]

Ngl personally I haven't seen a good one on a legendary

Mostly on mythics

Like dlq for example

Once you upgrade it to level one you get a skin for all of the good attachments

And so on with the newer gen mythics

[outer pulsar]

Why can't i send images

[cloud imp]

whats a good build for crossbow

[ruby iris]

#┃server-media-passes

[cloud imp]

(i know its garbage)

[ruby iris]

Stack bullet velocity and ads speed

Then throw on sleight of hand or melee master

[outer pulsar]

Thx

[unreal gale]

Hm

[pastel roost]

My brain doesn’t feel right

[undone sandal]

nice

[celest blade]

i’m crying because of the holo sight

the irons are fire on that skin

[ruby iris]

Send vids

Of you spraying 80m

With irons sights

[celest blade]

oh is that a BR build

mb i’m stupid

[rich arch]

Rds better than holo imo 🤔

Unless its the ffar 💀

[ruby iris]

Holo >

[tawny isle]

you dont even need sight for ffar

[rich arch]

I can’t aim with the ffar no matter what so eh

But rds has insane aim shake on it while holo is stable

[rich arch]

Less clean

[tawny isle]

i dont really mind aim shake

[distant cove]

any hg40 builds?

[rich arch]

I usually dont ig the ffar just sucks for me

[tawny isle]

it doesn’t have a real optimal range to play it

it will get decimated by smg in close range and by real ar in mid to long

if you use taskforce though you can possibly three shot up to 8 meters

[rich arch]

Well…

[rich arch]

Oh right the balance change

Rn its 4 shots to upper chest for like 10m

At 91 fire rate

[tawny isle]

yeah

[rich arch]

Which is good enough to bonk smgs but eh

[tawny isle]

yeah

might as well just use smg

[rich arch]

I use takedown barrel bc who would pass up that range

[rich arch]

Yup

And m13 feels better at range

[tawny isle]

its has better bsa as well im pretty sure

and recoil

and mag size

[rich arch]

Yup

Better sights 100% for me too

Plus I just love it 💀

[pastel roost]

What if they added a 2x4 as an epic skin for the baseball bat

[tawny isle]

i would cop that

[tawny isle]

m13 has a sweet spot in my soul forever

[pastel roost]

I would love beating people with a 2x4

[tawny isle]

baseball bat is not my fav though

[pastel roost]

I don’t blame you it isn’t the greatest

[rich arch]

🤝

[rich arch]

Axe >>>>

[pastel roost]

The axe has more range I like it better that way

Especially for infected

[rich arch]

The swing is so easy to hit with too

Bat just feels bizarre

[pastel roost]

I liked the old bat

It was the same as the axe but faster with less range

[rich arch]

Ugh I can barely remember now

[pastel roost]

It was long ago

[rich arch]

[undone sandal]

mono, marksman, nostock, tac laser, ext mag

[unreal gale]

Oh is hvk good in br?

[viscid belfry]

weird

[young shale]

lc only makes it good

[strong monolith]

Its pretty good
TTK is quite comparable to S36

[rich arch]

Why is echo and jak 12 so difficult to use in BR ..

[jovial spruce]

No they're not

[rich arch]

Then I'm noob

[jovial spruce]

Nah

[jovial spruce]

You're just not used to 'em

[rich arch]

I tried to use them and died

Bro had ak117 , I had echo, we were on cqc and I died

[pastel roost]

Fire rate difference

Probably

Also depends on their armor and your armor

[young shale]

probably

[rich arch]

Xd

[pastel roost]

Nah just stick to the weapons you’re good with

Not everyone is good with everything

[rich arch]

just want to ask something about hardpoint, what should i bring if i want to stand in the objective

I mean if i have to play the obj

Isn’t full auto shotguns better since most of the time people are rushing in groups

[pastel roost]

Maybe

[fickle mango]

Can someone give me the top 5 best weapons and their best gunsmith for this season
(I am a agressive/passive player)
I am coming back to codm after a year And I don't know what got nerf or buffed I am still using cbr kilo type 25 and Mac 10

[maiden agate]

I'm guessing it's too late

[unique schooner]

Yeah

[maiden agate]

I don't get pinged

[unique schooner]

I went along and bought Mk X&11

[maiden agate]

Idk why and I don't care to change it

[maiden agate]

But you're in the gunsmith channel?

I thought you would have said this on the other place

[unique schooner]

Yeah idk why i pinged here, i prob didnt check the channel when i did

[fickle mango]

Pls 🙏

[full gale]

Guys do u have a m13 op logout?

[tired grove]

Heavy barrel
No stock
OWC laser tactical/disable
RTC Double stack mag
Granulated grip tape

[gloomy forge]

best dlq loadout?

[harsh abyss]

Best Grau 5.56 and Type 25 attachments pls?

[tired grove]

Grau 5.56↓
Tactical suppressor
Archangel barrel/Nexus barrel
50 round mags
Classic red dot/Strikelite stock
Cronsen sniper elite

Type 25↓
Monolithic suppressor
Steady stock
OWC laser tactical/Classic red dot
Granulated grip tape
Stopping power reload

[tired grove]

OWC light suppressor
MIP light barrel
OWC skeleton stock/Combat stock
FMJ
Extended mag/Tactical laser

[harsh abyss]

Thanks a lot 😊

[tired grove]

No problem!

[harsh abyss]

@tired grove that grau 5.56 attachments will help in fast ads and long range with quick shots?

Btw i use hip fire mode.

[tired grove]

I think so

[harsh abyss]

And the type 25?

[unreal gale]

How can you be aggressive and passive at the same time 🗿

Meta summary

Only 2 guns I really recommend are Grau and hvk. Here are the f2p and p2w builds respectively

[rich arch]

Being a versatile player is a thing yk?
Just at times when needed you play aggressively and then in others you play passively

[unreal gale]

There's a big difference between being a flex player and being both an active and a passive player

[rich arch]

Ig you're right

[unreal gale]

Weapon choice, perk choice, positioning, scorestreaks, operators

All pretty different

[rich arch]

Honestly I just run the most aggro build I can find
Gung ho
Annih
And just play aggressive while playing passive when it's needed

And if it works it works

[unreal gale]

Sounds like flex

[rich arch]

But yeah I can't really call myself a flex player

[unreal gale]

All players in ranked are flex players though tbh

Without any coordination, everyone does everything

[rich arch]

It is
But not really
As my builds aren't really meant for a flex type of playstyle yet they somehow work
Cause lord knows how integral + no stock on kilo operates at range

[rich arch]

Yep

[rich arch]

That's the biggest fact in all cod history

[rich arch]

I feel like m13 belongs in flex too but eh

[rich arch]

Run no stock instead of fmj

[ruby iris]

Blackjack stock >

[rich arch]

I'd go for blackjack too

[full gale]

Guys can i have ak117 op logout?

[tired grove]

Monolithic suppressor
No stock
Any magazine
Tactical Laser
Granulated grip tape

[kindred estuary]

very true

[ornate jackal]

Hbr build please(one with sig attachment and one without)

[rich arch]

What mods should I use for s36?

Precise shot, lateral recoil control, vertical recoil control ?

[half fulcrum]

Br,

?

[strong monolith]

Precise shot, vertical recoil, fast ADS

[rich arch]

Thx and is this hip fire build good for br?

[strong monolith]

Yep
Basically don't ADS at all

[rich arch]

Thx for the info

[trim night]

Can someone tell me if i put the suppressor ammo on M13 will i still pop up on the mini coz it says i can put a suppressor on the M13 even with the ammo

[rich arch]

Anyone got a good lapa build

[minor flare]

As a .300 blackout ammo it's a subsonic round no muzzle flash and very silence you can use optics

For combination attachment

[trim night]

But will i pop up on the mini map with it

[minor flare]

Red dot unsuppressed and also red dot suppressed

[chilly wagon]

Need as val build

[minor flare]

It fires and it will appeared small red dot with grey

[trim night]

Thanks

[rich arch]

?

[ornate jackal]

Regular or the fmj round?

[strong monolith]

Made a few minor adjustments to the BR weapon tier list

[shadow hound]

Yo, can you give me a M13 BR loadout. I mostly play MP, so I'm using the legendary build.

[strong monolith]

Heavy long barrel
Optic
60r mag
Ranger fg
Tac laser

Mods: Long range, Precise shot, Extended Mag

[shadow hound]

alright thanks

actually i'm not using the leggy build lol, that one sucks. I just copied the attachments from the kilo leggy build.

[kindred estuary]

this took a lot of effort nice

[strong monolith]

I'm curious on how many more people will I piss off with this list

[rich arch]

Is that for br or mp? Cause the GS is an absolute goated type of weapon

[strong monolith]

BR

[rich arch]

Phew

[half fulcrum]

Where is the krm?

[strong monolith]

I am not that ill

[strong monolith]

Decent category

[rich arch]

Yeah thought so

[half fulcrum]

Sry didn’t saw it

[strong monolith]

A quick explanation on what the tiers mean

1. PEAK - Best option for their intended role, makes other weapons seem obsolete
2. Super Competitive - Excellent options for their intended role, can be moved to PEAK if other weapons get changed
3. Strong - Can perform well but with minor downsides
4. Decent - Can perform well but is outclassed by options in the higher tiers
5. Workable - Has very mediocre stats but still viable
6. Suboptimal - Has an extremely crippling downside or has little to no reason of being used
7. Avoid - Deleting the game gives better results than using them

Whoops, almost forgot M21 EBR

[tired orchid]

Krm in decent?

Deserve strong

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I love cx9

[strong monolith]

Cannot 1 shot 300hp and has a slower fire rate than BY
Fits the description of Decent perfectly