codm-gunsmith-help

[severe forge]

How are you gonna hit someone 3 times with a shot gun before they kill you? You stand no chance.

Dude, shot guns are supposed to be one hit one kill, as the one I posted.

[umbral obsidian]

also if you dumb enough to chal someone over 18 meters theirs something wrong with you

but yes i do see your point

you have slug rounds they are good

but the build is not as good

[severe forge]

Not even. You'll have someone standing in front of you and it still takes 3 hits unless you hit a perfect head shot.

[umbral obsidian]

no...

can i see a video?

and see what your talking about/

[severe forge]

At least with mine, regardless of distance, you can take out 3 people before you die.

[umbral obsidian]

?*

[minor flare]

You should ask komi he's a best one i know

[formal river]

I’ll do it

[umbral obsidian]

a;r

alr*

[severe forge]

Yeah, you send vids of both in use. I'm using my tablet rn but it's lagging a bit.

Also test out this

[formal river]

All are not that bad

[austere bloom]

are all the videos supposed to be 0 seconds 😂

[severe forge]

My shit is taking forever to load 🙄

[formal river]

No

There just not loading for you

[severe forge]

Which one is which.

[umbral obsidian]

what was the last guns build

[ruby iris]

[umbral obsidian]

oh

[severe forge]

You play mobile?

[ruby iris]

What's with the goofy builds?

[severe forge]

@formal river you play fingers?

[formal river]

Yea

[severe forge]

That's probably why

[formal river]

Why?

[severe forge]

Y'all keep tagging me for finger only builds. I play controller 🙄

[formal river]

I was trying them

[formal river]

Skill issue

[severe forge]

Tf?

[formal river]

I’m joking

[ruby iris]

[formal river]

Hold on

[obsidian trench]

yo anyone got a good groza build

[ruby iris]

Agency supp
Milspec barrel
50r drum
Kgb stock
Attachment of preference

[obsidian trench]

thanks

[formal river]

I’m gonna go charge my phone now

But that hip fire goes hard

[ruby iris]

That thing is a oneshot til 26m iirc, use that range to your advantage

[ruby iris]

Hitting any body part

[formal river]

Alr

[idle lily]

There is no need for controller

GET ON THE GRIND

[severe forge]

So many people love bashing on controller players.

[ruby iris]

Barely anyone bashes controller

[idle lily]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

They just think that it sucks

Which is does

[idle lily]

you’ll just miss opportunities

[ruby iris]

#controllerslifematters

[idle juniper]

Thorns of vengeance qq9 Swiss cheese's people in ranked

[kind edge]

Hi guys

[narrow glen]

@kind edge, 10 Server Rank

[keen gazelle]

are you lagging?

the hipfire with slug by15? is stupid good

[idle juniper]

What would you rate qq9 thorns of vengeance

[keen gazelle]

i use this build with 1mw laser

[ruby iris]

Odd flex but aight

I'd rather 5mw

[keen gazelle]

well youre gay so theres that

[pale minnow]

Anyone has by15 attachment for mp?

[ruby iris]

25% chance of you not shooting fast enough is scarier than 1% chance of you missing that shot

Very reasonable argument (real)

[idle juniper]

I just slaughtered the opposite team with the qq9 thorns of vengeance the only change was I added a red dot site

Sight

[keen gazelle]

try it before you downvote dude 11!!!1!

[ruby iris]

Counterpoint

Red dot site

[formal river]

A little at the beginning

[minor flare]

I dont think this cx9 burst attachment sound like a carbine but SOH was a brilliant idea for removing a stock

[unreal gale]

Idk, I don't use shotguns. I think hot recommendation is not bad

Because hvk is broken

[minor flare]

Hvk 30 is banned for competitive

[formal river]

Not surprised

[vale lichen]

SKS smiling

[formal river]

[unreal gale]

Sks is kinda unique though

Whereas hvk is super normal, just broken

[tawny walrus]

SVD and XPR are also banned for some reason.

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris Imagine two grips on PKM.

[tired grove]

From CODM Championship?

[tawny walrus]

Yeah.

[tired grove]

Thats sad

First SKS and now SVD and XPR

[ruby iris]

Yes pls

[austere igloo]

What I meant was “why bother going to pick up someone else’s gun when you can just use hvk (your own gun)”

The implication being you have ammo replenishing perks for HVK so you don’t have to go pick up someone else’s gun.

I shouldn’t have to explain this but damn

[inland ermine]

whats a compatible build for Maddox ( I'm a passive player)

[vale lichen]

Svd makes sense why XPR thou?

[tawny walrus]

Stopping power mag.

[vale lichen]

Sks only for skilled players

[vale lichen]

Since it is semi automatic i don't even use it💀

[rich arch]

Uhh

Use marksman barrel, no stock, and gran grip tape instead of disable

[tawny walrus]

I can’t use it as well - not used for semi auto snipers.

[unreal gale]

I disagree. It's just different. And you need a team to set you up

It's pretty mid in ranked

Because you're solo most of the time

[unreal gale]

I mean it wasn't that clear. But also, ammo replenishing perks suck. To lose anything for a chance to get a nuke with your own gun is literally stupid

Are you gonna lose operator skill? An attachment? Quick fix?

[austere igloo]

I do not consider munitions box operator skill to be a loss

but attachments & quick fix obviously I won't let them out of sight

[unreal gale]

Well you're pretty wrong 🗿

[austere igloo]

It doesn't matter

I have always used munitions box

& I don't see any issue with it

[unreal gale]

There's no way you're saying chance to get a nuke with your own gun > an operator skill

In ranked?

[austere igloo]

since when did I say nuke

[unreal gale]

You're literally trolling if you do that

[austere igloo]

I'm not saying hvk needs an ammo replenisher for the sake of nuking you genius

[unreal gale]

Why else would you need the munitions box?

[austere igloo]

since when did I make this point?

[minor flare]

I love munitions box

[unreal gale]

It's pretty implicit lmao

[austere igloo]

no it isn't

[unreal gale]

The what, you're shooting a wall?

[minor flare]

ARs and Lmg are good as well

[austere igloo]

so that I don't have to loot other people's guns

[unreal gale]

There's literally no other reason

[austere igloo]

but there is

[unreal gale]

And why would you need to do that 💀

If yirue shooting 200 rounds properly with a guaranteed 4 shot kill, tf are you doing

[austere igloo]

literally all I said was "hvk has ammo issues" & you came away with "it would be silly to try and nuke with it"...like...what??

[oak gulch]

Anyone has a j358?

[vale lichen]

POV:My teammates

[unreal gale]

The ammo issue is with the mag, not the reserve lmao

[austere igloo]

that's what I was saying you genius

[unreal gale]

Reserve is literally never a problem unless you're going on a nuke streak

Oh wait what?

[oak gulch]

Large cal is only 28.

[austere igloo]

ok but when did I say I was going for a nuke streak?

[unreal gale]

No way I misread hang on

[austere igloo]

bruh 🗿

in ranked I don't even care about nuking

[unreal gale]

Oh no, it's because you said munitions box or full ammo or vulture

So no I didn't misread

[austere igloo]

yea but that's irrelevant

[unreal gale]

Lmao wdym it's irrelevant

[austere igloo]

the loadout I use munitions box doesn't have hvk on anyway

[unreal gale]

You saying you need munitions box or vulture or full ammo directly implies a long streak

Those things don't help with mag size

[austere igloo]

but it's not guaranteed

[unreal gale]

Huh? What?

[austere igloo]

just because I run that doesn't mean I'll get a nuke

[austere igloo]

What?

[unreal gale]

Well yeah, but getting a nuke is the only reason why you would run it

[austere igloo]

but that isn't my priority

[rough stone]

Cp

[unreal gale]

Tf is your priority then

[austere igloo]

I'm not using munitions box to go for a nuke

[unreal gale]

Your logic isn't making sense rn

Then what are you using it for??

[austere igloo]

wdym it's not maing sense

[austere igloo]

replenishing lethals? throwables? reserve ammo for rocket launchers??

[unreal gale]

You're telling me you're running full ammo / vulture / munitions box not for the purpose of a long streak?

[austere igloo]

why the fuck would you assume I was going for a nuke when running munitions box

[unreal gale]

Then why did you tie it in with hvk ammo issues

[austere igloo]

vulture & full ammo, maybe...munitions box? nah

[unreal gale]

Because you said hvk had ammo issues that could only be solved by those 💀

[austere igloo]

when did I do that

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

Don't topic shift and tell me you're trying to get more rockets

[unreal gale]

Are you kidding me?

[austere igloo]

the point you're making is moot anyway since I'm not running hvk with munitions box

[unreal gale]

Like hello?

[unreal gale]

Wdym point I'm making. I'm literally talking about your point

Regardless, if you're not going for a super long streak, munitions box is a meme you know that right?

If you can't think of something to run, use kinetic or reactor or ballistic

Works on every map, can't go wrong with any

And it's worth way more than having more rockets 💀

[midnight snow]

How do I fix this blurriness

[rich arch]

Download hd resources and restart

If that doesnt work reinstall the app

[rich arch]

Claw

[midnight snow]

i deleted the game n reinstalled it that’s when it got blurry

[rich arch]

Oh lol reverse effect for me

Did you download the hd resources section

Ik that effects icons and stuff

[rich arch]

Yep you gotta get that

Restart after and you should be good

[unreal gale]

Yeah that too, but that thing actually needs skill lol

[midnight snow]

Ok ima try hopefully it works

[rich arch]

Yeah it will

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 39 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Skill? 💀

I just spam it at walls for ricochet kills

[unreal gale]

You don't get many though

[rich arch]

Takes care of headglitches well too

[rich arch]

In hardpoint…

[unreal gale]

It's mainly like a hvk that shoots like a m13

I feel like wall bounce is just a bonus

[rich arch]

Try it in hardpoint

In maps like firing range

Downside is it is ABSURDLY loud so its practically a siren for enemies

[inland valley]

Hey guys, do you have a build for Grau?

BR and MP

[tawny walrus]

Can give for MP.

• Tactical suppressor
• Archangel barrel
• No stock
• 50 magazine
• Cronen rear grip

[inland valley]

Thanks

[rich arch]

I can give for BR
Archangel barrel
Cronen sniper elite
60 round mag
Owc laser
Blackjack stock

A lot of people say that grau isn't the best option for BR though

[unreal gale]

Hm

Yeah Grau sucks in br

[inland valley]

Yeah not this season maybe, but I'm just testing

[rich arch]

m13 and amax are better

[narrow glen]

@inland valley, 3 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

Miserable range performance

[inland valley]

M13 build?

[rich arch]

You can try this

I have used it for weeks though

[unreal gale]

I'd do that but switch laser to ranger grip

[rich arch]

Not sure. If it's good

Yeah

Do what sunny says

[minor flare]

Don't forget the mip laser 5mw

Replace stock to ranger Foregrip

[unreal gale]

I got the build from isleep

[minor flare]

Subsonic round

[unreal gale]

Big analyst pro

[minor flare]

Who

That's not me

[rich arch]

Hip fire laser on m13?

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 36 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

Who’s using this dogshit thing?

[minor flare]

Replace magazine to .300 blackout double stack mag and also replace stock to ranger foregrip

[rich arch]

Only in mp I'd use that

Subsonic

[austere igloo]

It shouldn’t be used at all

Subsonic murders your bullet speed

[rich arch]

Oh

[minor flare]

Don't worry about subsonic round it's very reliable but reload speed

[austere igloo]

🗿

[minor flare]

That's not true

[austere igloo]

Reliable? Says who?

[minor flare]

.300 doesn't have bullet speed reduce attribute

[austere igloo]

Go see the stats on that they don’t lie

[austere igloo]

Wtf are you talking about?

[rich arch]

It's not called subsonic

It's called double stack mag

We were talking about the wrong magazine

I meant the mag on m13

Not oden

M13 mag doesn't have bullet speed reduction

But Oden does

[austere igloo]

What’s this then?

[rich arch]

This should be the correct build for BR, right?

[austere igloo]

M13 ammo isn’t subsonic bruh

[rich arch]

Naomi meant the double stack mag

[austere igloo]

You talking about the RTC double stack mag?

[rich arch]

Ye

[austere igloo]

🗿

[rich arch]

That's what we were talking about

[austere igloo]

Who called that subsonic?

[inland valley]

Thanks guys

[austere igloo]

Because it’s not

[rich arch]

I know

But at some point I guess we renamed it 😂

[austere igloo]

Unless he meant “suppressed”

But suppressed gunfire isn’t the same as subsonic

[minor flare]

Yes but replace stock to laser 5mw

[rich arch]

Why hip fire laser?

[minor flare]

Because it's a versatile Playstyle

[austere igloo]

Hip fire laser on m13?

[rich arch]

I'm not hip firing with m13

[austere igloo]

That’s new

[rich arch]

Only with ppsh

[austere igloo]

I think he has it on because of stf delay

But tbh, stf delay isn’t even a big deal in br

[rich arch]

What is stf delay?

[austere igloo]

It’s not like you’re gonna be running & gunning

[austere igloo]

Sprint-to-fire

[rich arch]

[minor flare]

Cygnoux always use mip laser 5mw

[strong monolith]

This is a good build
I would personally use Tac laser instead of stock but this is definitely good as well

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

5mw laser is usable on m13?

For br?

[minor flare]

Yes

[austere igloo]

I wasn’t asking you

[minor flare]

Versatile is a key

[strong monolith]

Depends on what build you are going for
I won't recommend it if you are using it as a ranged primary
But if you are going for sniper support then yes

[austere igloo]

I don’t play sniper support with m13

[minor flare]

Smart thinking @strong monolith

[strong monolith]

Then 5mW won't be super useful

[austere igloo]

Not that I use that gun for br anyway

[minor flare]

If you dont like sniper then use long range ar and shotgun too

[austere igloo]

I have LK24

[strong monolith]

Based man

[austere igloo]

I do

[rich arch]

Is it good?
I've never used it before

[austere igloo]

Should I change anything?

[strong monolith]

Swap SoH for tac laser

[austere igloo]

It’s not good, it’s great

[austere igloo]

[minor flare]

This doesn't negative impact by bullet speed by .300

[austere igloo]

Duh

[strong monolith]

The best way to explain it is
The easiest to use out of all the top tier ARs

[rich arch]

I'm taking that build then

[austere igloo]

But do what isleep said, change the perk to tac laser

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

Better now?

[strong monolith]

Yes

[austere igloo]

What about my S36?

Build was given by tych

[strong monolith]

I use the largest mag
That is like the only difference

[austere igloo]

Hmm, ok

Guess I’ll switch to that too

I’m just a lil’ paranoid of the reload speed

[rich arch]

Instead of holo sight, I can use?

[austere igloo]

S36 irons are not good for beaming long range

You’ll need an optic

But just don’t run a fricking sniper scope on it🗿

[rich arch]

🤣

[minor flare]

I supposed lmg is fine as well but slow mobility

[austere igloo]

S36 the best lmg for br

& also…it’s an lmg…these guns are not meant to be fast

[minor flare]

Main assault Playstyle

[strong monolith]

Compared to the other top ARs, the LK is a behind the others in terms of close range TTK (Still very competitive tho)
And at long range, it is actually really good (faster than M13 and barely behind Oden)
Its main strengths are that it has very little recoil and flinch while having great TTK

[minor flare]

Bruen mk9 feels slower

[austere igloo]

Does it?

I feel like it’s standard lmg mobility

[minor flare]

Idk it's not heavy

But standard lmg but 60 round mags will help

[austere igloo]

Kinda forgot about amax

[minor flare]

It's very helpful for sluggish reload speed

[austere igloo]

Amax is like…the real deal

[minor flare]

It's a long range ar

[austere igloo]

But alas, it’s outshined in popularity (at least where I’m from)

[minor flare]

Replacing stock to optics is a best choice

[rich arch]

Is reddot instead of holo ok, too?

[minor flare]

You can use any optics ask grass

[strong monolith]

Holo is generally better because of that 10% extra zoom

[austere igloo]

^

[rich arch]

Ohh

[austere igloo]

And don’t forget the blue dot reticle on the holo sight

[rich arch]

Nice

OHHHH

[austere igloo]

This works like a charm

[strong monolith]

AMAX is an actual menace at close-mid range
Kinda falls off at long range because of recoil but then again, that's where LK shines

[rich arch]

Out of all holo sights, the best one is holo 2?

[tawny walrus]

Yes.

It is the clearest one.

[rich arch]

Thank you guys, I did a huge update to my arsenal just now

Everything I had was from weeks ago, no wonder I got smacked all the time

[young tartan]

Guys I have a question is the kilo141 still the meta wepon cos I havent played for about a year and a half now

[glacial haven]

Guyz how do u make the AK117 no recoil in mp

[narrow glen]

@glacial haven, 1 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

Yesu

[austere igloo]

Yes, but not no.1 meta

[austere igloo]

You can’t, it’s randomized

[glacial haven]

Well ok.....it would be cool though

[upbeat kayak]

can anyone recommend a troll build for me to use?

any gun is ok

[upbeat kayak]

ah yes thank you

[upbeat kayak]

tyty just used the m13 will use this now

[rich arch]

Try this m13 for br

[whole karma]

LK 24 build ?

[minor flare]

You should use
Tactical and monolithic suppressor
Owc ranger barrel
40 to 50 mags
Ranger foregrip
Granulated grip tape and any optics

[viscid belfry]

y combat stock

[rich arch]

Range 24???

Damnnn
Even a knife has better range

[viscid belfry]

no

[rich arch]

That's seriously a good troll build

[viscid belfry]

troll build for the worst smg

[rich arch]

Fr

[scenic compass]

I keep dying to the grau from long range what’s a build for it that is good for med-long range. The hot recommendation for the legendary and GM one does terrible imo

[narrow glen]

@scenic compass, 1 Server Rank

[rich arch]

I would say red dot on Grau is a good choice of attachment it means u can long range with it too

[young tartan]

What's the meta gun to use this season

[hard stag]

Best as val build

[keen rover]

Can any one build me Pp19 bizon

[formal river]

I think the M13 with the buff

I could be wrong

[tawny walrus]

1. Grau / Fennec

• Quick response barrel
• Skeleton stock
• Tactical laser
• Extended magazine
• Granulated grip/sleight of hand

• Monolithic suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Skeleton stock
• Tactical laser
• Gramulated grip

[formal river]

People use rds on the Grau?

[cursive kayak]

I wasn't kidding when I said I'd put an optic on this skin if I ever got it

[rich arch]

Looks epic ngl

Ayo someone give Grau gunsmith

[tired grove]

Tactical suppressor
FSS 20.8 Nexus
No stock
50 round mags
Cronsen sniper elite
OR
Tactical suppressor
Archangel barrel
Light stock (I forgot the name)
50 round mags
Cronsen snier elite

[rich arch]

Yes even pros watch a match

[cursive kayak]

I use holo

[viscid belfry]

no rubber?

[cursive kayak]

I don't need it

[viscid belfry]

damn

[cursive kayak]

It's not difficult to pull down

[tawny isle]

noooooo

[rich arch]

@pastel osprey by15 doesn't one tap 300 HP

Only up to 5.5m and only if you aim exclusively at the head

[royal dagger]

Menace

[rich arch]

@rich arch can u send that burst cx9 build

[rich arch]

Perfect bro idk why but no one likes using ranger on m13 in mp

[oak gulch]

Agency
Mil spec
Kgb
50rnd drum
Firm

Is this build good for groza?

[rich arch]

Every AR build needs FMJ

[ruby iris]

Realest of reals

[ruby iris]

Ye

[oak gulch]

Ok.

[tired grove]

Not every

[boreal onyx]

My cx9 go crazy

[cursive kayak]

An honest menace

[unreal gale]

Hm

[rich arch]

What would you say about these 2 builds for BR?

I'm open to suggestions for other guns

I sometimes use krm too

[tawny walrus]

I’d run these.

• RyTec gives one shot to head without mag attachments, so it’s better to boost hit flinch.
• No need for marksman barrel on JAK-12, use extended one. If you have problems with recoil control, use operator foregrip instead of sleight of hand.

[rich arch]

Okay thx

[low berry]

skill issue🥱 🥱

[low berry]

m13, qq9 maybe the gks

[rancid verge]

Huh

[young tartan]

Wth I sent that time ago

[low berry]

?

[rancid verge]

Qq9 over cx9🤨

[low berry]

qq9 is easier to get, and shreds in br

[rancid verge]

Easier to get Wut

[hushed topaz]

Kinda weak weapons for br

[rich arch]

I'm open for suggestions

[hushed topaz]

Which weapon type do you use?

[cloud rose]

Who else is having a really good day?

[low berry]

the qq9

[narrow glen]

@low berry, 13 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Everything

[low berry]

30 kills while crouching

[rich arch]

Even smrs

[hushed topaz]

I can give you smg and ar loadouts

[rich arch]

Can you give shotgun?

I'm all done with smg and ar

[hushed topaz]

I dont play it that much so idk if its good or bad

[timber sedge]

That match was great

[rich arch]

hi

[rich arch]

Mp or br?
And which sgs blawg

[formal river]

Oh

I’ve seen it though

But now since the mythic is here probably not

[unreal gale]

hm

[kindred estuary]

these are fine i would suggest krm instead of jak12 tho

[rich arch]

I think this goes down as the worst build ever posted here?

[rich arch]

LMAO

Bro is a hardscoper 💀

[sacred oasis]

Hi guys I need some tips for hp and snd because we are having a tournament at school

[rich arch]

Lol

[sacred oasis]

@rich arch wanna 1v1?

[unreal gale]

lol that must be fun. Wish codm was big when I was in highschool

[ornate jackal]

Ive seen worse, some of which posted by me unironically unfortunately

[rich arch]

Oh hahh you should see mine in the early days here hahah

I remember a build which was actually ak117 hip fire build hahah

Around 2020

[ornate jackal]

It just seems like they dont have accuracy it seems somewhat understandable

For br maybe

[ruby iris]

Locus for br

[ornate jackal]

Actually i use it, and rytec

Wait no

Rytec and zrg, i replaced locus for zrg

Cause vehicle dmg go brr

[ruby iris]

Locus is like

Bottom tier in br

I dont think it one shots head with sp

[ornate jackal]

Deagle is clear top tier in br (severe copium)

I actually use it sometimes tho in sniper only

[rich arch]

Give me a mythical kilo 141 build please🙏

[rich arch]

@rich arch @rich arch

[young shale]

br ahh

even for br fast switch isn't necessary

[young shale]

doesn't

[upper osprey]

Damn 10 pull

Any gunsmith?

[rich arch]

Mono
Marksman
No stock
Gran grip tape
Tac laser

[upper osprey]

Ok thx

[rich arch]

Give me your luck 😭

[upper osprey]

Xd

[kindred estuary]

zrg and rytec both valid

dlq concussion shot 👍

[ruby iris]

Mono
Ext light/marksman
Gran tape
Tac laser
Skelly stock

[ruby iris]

No stock

Skelly >

[rich arch]

5% < 14%

[ruby iris]

Check strafe

Then check bsa

Ads is irrelevant

[ruby iris]

Ok ads addict

Mfw skelly provides better mobility and less accuracy penalty

[rich arch]

With marksman and laser and gran tape you’re fine

Bizon has great bsa as is

And its an smg, more meant for close quarters anyways

[rich arch]

Bizon class: smg

[ruby iris]

Skeleton still provides better mobility

More mobility, more accuracy and no flinch penalty

And 220 vs 230ms ads is legit actual irrelevant

Same frames rounded up

[rich arch]

Slightly more strafe speed

[ruby iris]

12 vs 20

[rich arch]

Not a big difference
Last I checked skeleton stock only had a 5% ads speed buff though, when did it go up to 10%

[ruby iris]

Skelly supremacy

[rich arch]

5% ads speed vs 8% ads movement speed, I think I’ll take ads lol

Also no stock has a 5% movement speed buff

[ruby iris]

Less than half the bsa penalty

[rich arch]

Not just when ads’d

[ruby iris]

They're the same frame

[rich arch]

Its the bizon

[ruby iris]

Literally no difference whatsoever

[ruby iris]

Ah, yes, a hitbox specific gun will not benefit from having better bsa

And bison has mid bsa tbh

[rich arch]

Good for an smg

[rich arch]

Meant for close quarters either way

[ruby iris]

It's mid for smgs

[ruby iris]

Cx9:
Fennec:

[rich arch]

A video was wrong then

[ruby iris]

What vid?

[rich arch]

Its good for close quarters while maintaining some mid range performance, cx9 and fennec eliminate all close range fights so they are obviously better than bizon at cqc

[formal river]

The Cx9 can be good for medium range

[rich arch]

I think it was by cygnoux

[ruby iris]

Sx9:
Pdw:

[rich arch]

Pdw is kinda similar to the bizon just a bit harder to control

[ruby iris]

Cyg 🤮

[rich arch]

Switchblade has bad range and recoil and bsa from my experience

But I also suck at using it so

[formal river]

Remember the pdw zombie gene

[rich arch]

He has some decent in depth stats unlike a lot of yters so hes alright

[mint anvil]

Dunno what to name it thinking “silent but deadly” or “too bad so sad”

[rich arch]

Nostalgia

[ruby iris]

Literally, path is right there

[formal river]

Ikr

[kindred estuary]

sb is quite good if you use it with hip fire

[ruby iris]

[kindred estuary]

in my experience atleast

[rich arch]

Unfamiliar with him

[formal river]

I still remember the build I used

[kindred estuary]

whenever i ads with sb i play like ass

[rich arch]

Im thumbs player so hipfire isn’t super viable

[formal river]

Wdym

[kindred estuary]

i’m also a two finger player, it all depends on your HUD

[ruby iris]

Cyg is just as clickbaity as any other yter, he just pull some very biased stats to back up his bullshit

[rich arch]

The button is kinda far off for me

[formal river]

Change your HUD

[rich arch]

Eh he has some decent opinions, I disagree with a lot as well though lol

[ruby iris]

They used to work together, but that stuff got dropped with gunsmith release

[rich arch]

I’ll misclick if I put the button anywhere else

[rich arch]

Interesting

[formal river]

Fair

What does your hud look like

[ruby iris]

Cyg's vid is goofy cuz he he doesnt have multiple writers and editors

[rich arch]

This is from br but it’s practically the same as mp

[kindred estuary]

my br hud

you should bring the running man icon lower, that way you can sprint faster

[rich arch]

Jump and slide around cursor?

[kindred estuary]

as in you can start sprinting faster

[rich arch]

Claw player

[rich arch]

Isn’t that autosprint

[kindred estuary]

yes i find it best to play like that

[kindred estuary]

yep

[formal river]

These are my MP and BR HUDs

[rich arch]

I hate not having control over my movement like that

[rich arch]

Takes a third finger

[kindred estuary]

just two

if i’m jumping and sliding i switch from using my thumb to index finger to tap on the button and then back to thumb to control

[narrow glen]

@kindred estuary, 22 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Youd have to stop moving to jump or slide

[kindred estuary]

idk it’s a weird play style 😂

[rich arch]

Third finger

[kindred estuary]

the sprint is already auto enabled

[rich arch]

Oh
That always screws me up

[kindred estuary]

Technically only 2 fingers on my screen at any time

[rich arch]

I have autosprint on anyways so I never accidentally walk

[kindred estuary]

ahh

[rich arch]

Yeah lol

[formal river]

Nostalgia

[rich arch]

Lol some of my old builds are still there too

Type 25 and by15 and pdw were three I remembered

[formal river]

Cool

[rich arch]

YOOOO

First draw i got the legendary rus

[reef lantern]

Pkm build?

[ornate jackal]

This a bit standard and its very passive

[jovial spruce]

Is the pink ak good ?

[ornate jackal]

U can replace tac sup for mono, or laser for gran or a barrel. If u want something more flexible like faster its possible but not recommended for real ranked gameplay

[ruby iris]

I wouldnt use tac laser

Pkm isnt meant to be fast

[ornate jackal]

There are better blueprints

[ruby iris]

Ye

[jovial spruce]

I got it first try

[ruby iris]

Not a lot

[ornate jackal]

Yea but its possible i had the luxury of testing it and cause they just got leggy they most likely want something a bit better paced to use it more i guess? Idk

Different playstyles require different things

[ruby iris]

Pkm requires a specific playstyle to work

Fast pkm is just a worse ul

[ornate jackal]

Build i had worked in ranked, and even before that i used nonstandard pkm cause i didnt like how slow the ads time was for the one i recommended

[jovial spruce]

Yeah pkm shouldn't be built for fast combat

Tbh the only people I've seen use it in ranked are campers

[ornate jackal]

I thought rushing pkm was crazy too until i tried it, now the notion isnt totally inconceivable but standards still better for the general public

[unreal gale]

Cyg has some pretty questionable builds and gun rankings

[viscid belfry]

global with an camper build

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

PKM is meant to be a post-up LMG

You don't have to run and gun

[viscid belfry]

im agressive guy

i need control myself but idk how

[rich arch]

The gun ranking were wild fr

He was pretty quick to catch on to lk24 and ul736 being meta though

[ruby iris]

Then pkm isnt for you

[unreal gale]

He has very different opinions on what's good

[rich arch]

Yeah im not a fan of them personally

[unreal gale]

Cygnoux builds every gun the same, and tries to strike a balance between all the stats

[rich arch]

Kith is pretty accurate though

[unreal gale]

Kith is also kinda weird, but the guns he recommends are garena favorites

[rich arch]

Lol true

[unreal gale]

Which means they just work lol

[rich arch]

Well idk, he has a lot of good techniques and mechanics

[unreal gale]

That's true

Kith guides are great. I started watching him when he had like 1k subs

[rich arch]

Oh cool

Hes one of few I’ll actually watch lol

[unreal gale]

Yeah he has great tips

He alsobreally likes the krig6 for some reason lol

[upbeat kayak]

is qxr better with/without enhanced bolt?

[rich arch]

Fr lol

[rich arch]

With imo but I havent tested the damage multipliers

[keen gazelle]

with

[foggy quest]

I use it with enhanced bolt, marksman barrel, no stock, monolithic suppressor, granulated grip tape

[upbeat kayak]

alright, thanks :D

[midnight snow]

Can’t even get a like

[unreal gale]

Hm

[rich arch]

Its funny when everyones mad at the mvp

The teammates mad that they couldnt get kills and enemies mad they lost 💀

[midnight snow]

They kept dying 2 secs in

[rich arch]

[midnight snow]

Idk how I still got mvp bc I was playing on a new hud

I lost my ace 2 times

[rich arch]

Rip

I either rush and get 3 kills and die or go slow and my teammates get all the kills 💀

Or they all die and im left to clutch 5 players

[midnight snow]

my aim was amazing this game 💀

I died to some ho knifing me n contact nade

I just let my teammates rush bc i knew they were gonna die n then I got the kill after they died

[rich arch]

💀💀💀

[rich arch]

That thing needs a nerf

[midnight snow]

The nade?

[rich arch]

Yeah

Melees are at least mid now

[midnight snow]

It need to be removed

[rich arch]

Though they need a movement speed nerf

…or hitbox better yet

[midnight snow]

At least with melee u have a slight chance of getting them

[rich arch]

Yeah its really funny to kill them too

With nade youre just dead or they run away as you dodge 💀

[midnight snow]

Right like I killed somebody n laid down to reload n boom some btvh hit me with it 😭

[rich arch]

💀 ouch

C4 supremacy

[midnight snow]

c4s r annoying but u either hit or miss with them

Good for campers

[rich arch]

Thats why I have them in like 7 loadouts

Fun to throw through a window

…unless theres a trophy

[midnight snow]

Ts be disappointing

[rich arch]

Yeah

Then I have to crouch walk up to em

Since I have autosprint on

[midnight snow]

I just turned that off 😂

Might turn it on bc my new hud be making me crouch too much

[rich arch]

Exactly why I turned it off lmao

[rich arch]

Br, and give me the best shotgun

Side note: I'm usually quick scoping with shotgun

[carmine radish]

Whats the best sniper for better headshot

[ruby iris]

All versions will be getting a free Arctic 50 skin by logging in for 5 days

(It just got added to the Global version few mins ago)

[rich arch]

Better than most legendary artics im ngl

Best shotgun for long range?

[upbeat kayak]

yeah if they gave it a kill effect and some particles it’ll probably be a legendary

[narrow glen]

@upbeat kayak, 16 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Indeed

Most recent arctic legendary was trash

Literally looks like a bad epic

[naive thistle]

best switchblade build for aggressive with the perks?

[austere igloo]

Argus

[austere igloo]

Light stock
Ext mag A
Granulated
Extended light barrel
Tactical supp

[naive thistle]

thanks

[jovial spruce]

Artic50 is soo underrated

It's one of the sniper rifles for snd in my opinion

[cerulean atlas]

Qxr loadout?

[rich arch]

Enhanced bolt
Marksman barrel
Tac/mono sup
Extended mag
Gran grip/laser

How's this for BR?

[jovial spruce]

I wouldn't recommend Argus for br

The hipfire on that thing is ass

[tawny walrus]

Yeah, it’s bad.

[jovial spruce]

Just use the krm

[rich arch]

Ive used it for 1v1s and its just really inconsistent

I'm an ads shotgunner

That's why I went for argus

[remote crescent]

whats a good loadouts for Ranked?

[rich arch]

@jovial spruce

@tawny walrus

Isn't argus the best ads shotgun?

[tawny walrus]

Yes, but you won’t one shot with it in BR.

[minor flare]

It is not adaptable for argus in br

[jovial spruce]

Yeah the ads is good but the damage is not

Also as I've said before you can't hipfire with it

[gaunt shell]

[minor flare]

Because of low pellet spread

[jovial spruce]

Yeah it's not a good sniper rifle for quickscoping

But where it truly shines is in snd

[rich arch]

So I’ll never use it

[jovial spruce]

Lmao

[rich arch]

Thx @jovial spruce

[jovial spruce]

Yeah using it is kinda boring

[rich arch]

What about hso

[jovial spruce]

Your welcome

[rich arch]

Is that a good one shot shotgun

[jovial spruce]

I prefer the krm

[rich arch]

Best single fire shotgun alongside krm

Hso definitely better for br though

One shot ability?

[tawny walrus]

HS0405 is the best choice.

[rich arch]

Pretty good

[jovial spruce]

Yep

[rich arch]

Has good range and decent sights

[jovial spruce]

Hso destroys

[rich arch]

Thx for the help

Hs1 though

[jovial spruce]

Lmao

[rich arch]

Honestly its pretty good

[jovial spruce]

I actually used the hs1 2 seasons ago

It was pretty good

[rich arch]

Yupp

[minor flare]

Switching secondary is a best benefits

[rich arch]

How's this build?

[minor flare]

Replace 5mw

[austere igloo]

What is this new discord ui

[minor flare]

Laser tactical to mip laser 5mw

[rich arch]

Ok

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

Is it not good?

[austere igloo]

Hs2126 is not bad actually, people sleep on that gun

[minor flare]

Shotguns use mip laser 5mw

[austere igloo]

Why are you using hs0 in br

That gun is dirty

[rich arch]

Why not?

I want to win

[austere igloo]

Disgusting

[austere igloo]

There are less toxic guns to win with

Anyone who uses hs0 in br to win is toxic in my eyes

[minor flare]

Do you think is a strong gun

[rich arch]

I'm trash, I need everything I can get to win

[austere igloo]

I would have respect if they used by15 or hs2126

[austere igloo]

Even krm I wouldn’t consider that toxic in br

[minor flare]

Hso405 is a heavily pack a punch

[austere igloo]

Disgustingly strong

In cqc

[minor flare]

I am not huge fan of that hso

[austere igloo]

Why

[minor flare]

I give up

Cause it's very slow

The skills is diffcult

[jovial spruce]

Ikr

[austere igloo]

I’m not denying that the hs0 is a strong shotgun in br for cqc but the fact that it can basically negate kinetic armor stack is disgusting

[minor flare]

I suppose full auto shotgun is my best benefits back in 2022

[austere igloo]

Full auto shotguns are basically the crutch for people that can’t use shotguns

[minor flare]

Jak 12 shoots fast

[austere igloo]

Obvi

[minor flare]

Echo shredded armor plates and slow rate of fire

[austere igloo]

I’m seeing echo used a little bit more in br

[minor flare]

ARs with Any optics and shotguns are the main assault

[austere igloo]

But I still don’t like that gun

[minor flare]

Echo is fine but skilless gun

[austere igloo]

Full auto shotguns for me just turn me away

[austere igloo]

So is Jak

Hell, I’d say jak is even more skillless

[minor flare]

Full auto shotguns had bad rep

[austere igloo]

You don’t even need a brain to shoot that thing

Just spray & pray

[minor flare]

They just gun and run

[austere igloo]

Yep

Striker shotgun users though

[minor flare]

Slow reload but fast rate of fire

[austere igloo]

This one takes more skill even though its a full auto

[austere igloo]

Because you have to take into acc reload speed

& it’s individual reload instead of a mag reload like the other 2

So you need to think about how to go about using it

[minor flare]

Stippled mags

[austere igloo]

For me I use just use fast mag for the striker

[minor flare]

Fast mags is a best benefits

[austere igloo]

Just so I can reload fast & not get caught off-guard from ambushing enemies

[minor flare]

Long barrel is obliviously better

With leggy mod

[austere igloo]

The worst part is always when you’re reloading & an enemy finds you & you haven’t finished reloading

[austere igloo]

Or when you’re engaging but then run out, & the enemy gets the chance to kill you instead

[minor flare]

I guess it's a bad habit

[austere igloo]

That’s why I always reload to ensure I have a full mag

You wouldn’t want to be facing someone fully armored up & deplete in the heat of the gunfight

[rich arch]

No one uses it so I’ll keep using it lol

[austere igloo]

& no one uses hs2126, so Imma continue using that too

[rich arch]

Fair

[austere igloo]

Following your logic

[rich arch]

Its a fun gun too

[austere igloo]

Likewise, I will continue using LK24 as my br main ar

[rich arch]

Your s36 build is good too

I had my first win today

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

Noice

[rich arch]

It's been days since I had a br win

[austere igloo]

S36 is too good not to use in br

[rich arch]

Ye

[rich arch]

I use oden still

[austere igloo]

Once you use that lmg you don’t even wanna touch other lmgs

[rich arch]

Like I cannot miss shots with ot

[austere igloo]

Ah yes, oden

[rich arch]

So ive noticed lol s36 is my automatic choice

[austere igloo]

That gun is a beast but you need to land your shots

[rich arch]

Oden is kinda slow but seriously its so cracked

[austere igloo]

If you miss shots with the oden you’re done

[rich arch]

Which I can do, after mastering it in ranked its become a breeze in br

[austere igloo]

Ye it beastly

[rich arch]

Like at 80m I landed 4/5 shots 😂

[rich arch]

That's why I go for fast fire rate

[austere igloo]

Also I’ve been using lapa as my br custom smg

[austere igloo]

Ppl be sleeping on it ngl

I thought it was a shit gun in br until I tried it

[rich arch]

Nah its pretty good

[little bison]

which is better type25 or ak117? they preform well at range and stuff (br)

[rich arch]

Ak117 better for range, type25 more as an smg

[little bison]

what should i use for close-medium ranges? i kinda suck at using sg’s so i stray from them

[rich arch]

Type 25 better for that
Or oden if you hit shots

S36 is more meant for range but its probably the best auto

[weak sky]

Best cbr gunsmith?

[little bison]

hmm, thanks i’ll think i use both s36 and t25 lol both feel good though

also you can use the sks instead of the oden (if you find the mod that makes semi auto snipers into auto snipers) to have a better dmg mult is stuff

[rich arch]

S36 has the better recoil and mag, type 25 has the speed and close range ttk

[rich arch]

Xpr better for that

For the range

I use xpr auto paired with either oden or s36

[little bison]

lol only debuff is the sniper bullet sound

[rich arch]

Yeah, also I feel like oden bullet speed is way better than xor

I keep missing with xpr but not with oden

[little bison]

i feel like using weapons like ak117, s36 or any fast firing weapon with good range is better than the oden

sure its good for its dmg range and for scaring the opponent by breaking their shield

i feel the ttk would be slower than weapons like s36

[rich arch]

Mmm no not really

[little bison]

eh thats just me though

[rich arch]

Theres a graph I dont have it though, oden was the fastest or close to it

HOWEVER

Missing shots with oden is much more punishing (140ms inbetween shots I believe?) while s36 is quite fast so less punishing

[little bison]

i’ll just use whatever feels best or sounds better

[rich arch]

Thats the way to do it

[little bison]

the placebo effect can really help in combat fr

[rich arch]

Lmaoo

hi

[austere igloo]

ok but don't go "why isn't this working" when you get outgunned

[rich arch]

Best sg would either be krm or hso for obvious reasons
So ig for the krm it's the usual mp build but a bit different
Marauder
Tac laser
No stock
Gran/stippled
And extended barrel

For hso the usual mp build
Choke
Extended
No stock
Gran
Tac laser

[strong monolith]

Are you perhaps referring to this one?

[rich arch]

Yeah

[mint anvil]

Shame this isn’t a oneshot gun like DLQ this skin looks sick asf

[rich arch]

We need an s36 one

[rich arch]

It is if you're good enough

Just hit the chest

[rich arch]

It does one shot

Use stopping power if you arent precise

[strong monolith]

Big caveat with Oden tho
This TTK is somewhat reliant on you hitting chest shots and if you don't, your close range TTK is closer to that of M13 and your long range TTK will be slower than every AR in this chart

[rich arch]

True lol

[strong monolith]

Note that S36 is way more consistent since its TTK is basically guaranteed

[rich arch]

I just land so many shots with it that I beam so idm

[rich arch]

Yeah thats what I mean, s36 is technically better

Im just better with oden

[strong monolith]

I don't really like using Oden even though I ranked it as super competitive

The inconsistency rubs me the wrong way

[rich arch]

Fair

I just mastered it in mp and am loving it in br so im just good with it

[strong monolith]

Also I have a thing for guns that can take really long ranges

And Oden's recoil is a little too high for that

[rich arch]

I have sync ads

Just pull down and its amazing

[austere igloo]

sync ads for mp or br?

bcoz rn I'm using sync ads for mp but not br

[rich arch]

Both

[austere igloo]

why sync ads br

your targets become so tiny

[rich arch]

Xpr:

I’ll try it with it off too but im really used to sync so I dont like switching around

[little bison]

of course bra i always blame the way i play

[rich arch]

"bra"

💀

[ruby iris]

How's striker 45 burst mag ttk looks in br?

[strong monolith]

960ms

[ruby iris]

Point blank

[rich arch]

Burst cx9 is better

I tried it once

[ruby iris]

No shit captain obvious

[rich arch]

LMAO

[rich arch]

Both suck for br

Its a game of ammo and 12 ammo in br is just…

Ik

I used extended

I use oden and auto xpr usually, basically oden + sniper oden 💀

Mod

[rich arch]

Ohh

Wouldnt that give like 42 ammo total

But that was only once

[rich arch]

I think so

[rich arch]

Pretty sweet

Im going to try the burst cx9 soon

[austere igloo]

I don't snipe much

[rich arch]

Automatic sniper mod tho

[ruby iris]

Cx9 burst has cracked ttk in br

[austere igloo]

who bra

I didn't know you were a lady

[ruby iris]

Like, cracked cracked

[austere igloo]

[little bison]

who said im a lady

[austere igloo]

cuz you said bra

[rich arch]

Fully requires ammo mods

[ruby iris]

Duh

[rich arch]

I’ll have to try it too

[little bison]

im not adding one more letter

[ruby iris]

So does type 25

[rich arch]

This is pretty fun

I think this is the best build but if not lmk

[rich arch]

Better than cx9 burst or nah

[ruby iris]

Cx9 kills faster, but type has more mag and better hipfire

Both are top tier options for br

[rich arch]

I never hipfire, whats the ttk difference

Well rarely hipfire

[ruby iris]

@strong monolith

[ruby iris]

Bro doesnt abuse the broken part of br

Self handicap moment

[strong monolith]

Type 25 has 630ms
CX9 has 566ms

[rich arch]

Eh I usually have long range fights

I gotta extend my thumb too far to hipfire well 🗿

Hows this for a br burst cx9

[ruby iris]

Smg + long range ar

You hipfire up to ~20m

[rich arch]

Oden + xpr for me

[hushed topaz]

Fennec and grau/akk117 >>>

[rich arch]

Im not a br main so im still learning though

[ruby iris]

5mw + merc fg

And maybe stock to flashguard

[rich arch]

If I hipfired I would but until I improve on that im good

I’ll practice on an easier gun first

[ruby iris]

Type 25

Mono
Ext
5mw
Merc fg
Stopping powet

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

so is cx9 burst mag actually viable? @strong monolith

[rich arch]

I’ll try it

[ruby iris]

Duh

[strong monolith]

Mainly for solos

[rich arch]

This is a great free skin

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

christmas themed parachute...I wouldn't call that "great"

[austere igloo]

ah

[rich arch]

Well its animated and its the special kind

[austere igloo]

I don't really care abt parachutes anyway

[rich arch]

Fair