codm-gunsmith-help

[young shale]

lmao

[unreal gale]

@austere igloo do you have a good m13 build?

[young shale]

its likethe most noob friendly high fire rate ar

[unreal gale]

it's so bad though

[vale lichen]

Noo

Show build

[unreal gale]

hmm. maybe I'll use a red dot

[young shale]

i can't argue anything i only used snipers for forever in ranked

[unreal gale]

sorry posted it in the wrong channel

[vale lichen]

Sake of god don't use rds on mythic 💀

[unreal gale]

dude the mythic feels so bad

[young shale]

don't be garenaian

don't be overly garenian

[unreal gale]

I'll try red dot and see if it's better

[vale lichen]

[vale lichen]

This is more than that

[unreal gale]

I kinda also want to drop the no stock

the whole gun just feels so flimsy

alr now the game is not gonna give me any matches again

[austere igloo]

I do…I think

[unreal gale]

great.

[unreal gale]

I don't have skeleton stock

[austere igloo]

This is tailored to my preference

[austere igloo]

Use no stock then

[unreal gale]

I also don't have fmj

[austere igloo]

No stock, & change mini barrel to long barrel

[austere igloo]

U haven’t leveled up the gun?

[unreal gale]

I'm basically already using that

[unreal gale]

.

new account

[austere igloo]

Laser? Really?

[unreal gale]

I don't have any other attachments as of rn

I took out laser and put on a rds

[austere igloo]

Rip

[austere igloo]

U monster…putting rds on a mythic

[unreal gale]

it's a beauty

[austere igloo]

It’s an abomination

[unreal gale]

do you have the mythic?

[austere igloo]

No, but I have the umbrella

[unreal gale]

if you don't, well here's the news update

[austere igloo]

Umbrella m13

[unreal gale]

it sucks.

[austere igloo]

What now

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

umbrella >

[austere igloo]

Good thing I didn’t go for the m13 mythic

[unreal gale]

the legendary m13 is pretty good though

you also get kestrel in the same draw

[austere igloo]

Name?

[unreal gale]

carrot cutie

[austere igloo]

Kestrel? Isn’t it Scylla?

[unreal gale]

it also shows when you made your account

[young shale]

NOOOO

[unreal gale]

uhh wait yeah it is

[austere igloo]

M13 carrot cutie is the Scylla one

[unreal gale]

kestrel is for qq9

[austere igloo]

Kestrel is a diff draw

[unreal gale]

albatross

[young shale]

oh ma gad ;-;

[unreal gale]

I see why garena players use red dots on basically everything now

rds is literally an S tier sight

not many sights out there can compare to it

[austere igloo]

Holo sight 2 with blue dot reticle

[hollow panther]

Yep

[unreal gale]

oh yeah I heard that was good

[hollow panther]

Just use bluedot with rds

[unreal gale]

never got around to trying it

oh wait, but holo has different sens to red dot right

[hollow panther]

Wasnt the reason people used holo was cuz it like lessened the aimshake

[unreal gale]

also this matches quite well

[young shale]

am i the only dude who is smart enough to not use red dot on a free scope mythic

[unreal gale]

theme is way off but hey, colour matches

[ruby iris]

Same sens

[unreal gale]

do you own the mythic?

[austere igloo]

That skin

[young shale]

no

but i am logical enough to not put it

[unreal gale]

if you own it, you'll probably see why lol

[young shale]

cos i've stolen it before

[hollow panther]

Some people dont like it

[unreal gale]

it's like a dlq mythic moment

[hollow panther]

Some do

[unreal gale]

pretty p2l

[hollow panther]

50/50

[austere igloo]

This too, matches

[young shale]

i thought it was good

now i feel like tis way too wide

[unreal gale]

yeah it feels bad right?

someone who doesn't own the skin will probably clown you for choosing base dlq over it

[austere igloo]

I’ve been saying mythic m13 was p2l…but no one believed me

[young shale]

but i dont have it good news

[unreal gale]

but if yk, yk

[hollow panther]

Not really

[austere igloo]

& don’t get me started on mythic dlq

[unreal gale]

I've been saying it since like 2021 lol

[hollow panther]

i think everyone knows that the mythic dlq while its very cool

[austere igloo]

Same…but I got clowned on for saying that

[young shale]

im not gonna get mythic anyway

[unreal gale]

and all the nubs dream about that skin

[young shale]

im not gonna like it soon

[hollow panther]

Its just doesnt function as good as like the base or legendary variant

[young shale]

then i use another skin instead of mythic

then people clown me cos i wasted money

[hollow panther]

Mythix dlq is a good skin tho

[young shale]

then my mythic is then stuffed in one corner

[unreal gale]

uhhhhh

[austere igloo]

I hv an epic that’s literally bttr than the legendary LOL

[hollow panther]

Id use like any other legendary variant over it tho

[unreal gale]

ak117 meltdown is also overrated

[austere igloo]

Locus carbon cut > locus neptune

[unreal gale]

that skin is also p2l imo

[austere igloo]

Uhh…that’s where u lost me

[young shale]

and i have wasted my $1500 on something i didn't even use for 1 year

[austere igloo]

Ak117 meltdown is op

[unreal gale]

I used to think so too

[austere igloo]

It’s almost a mythic if u ask me

[unreal gale]

recently I used it and base is literally better

[austere igloo]

With its reactive effects & all

[hollow panther]

Good skin

[young shale]

how about demonic breath

[austere igloo]

I have ak117 archtoxin

[young shale]

demonic breath is nothing special

just fire and flames

[unreal gale]

archtoxin is my ak117 of choice too

[austere igloo]

Archtoxin has digital rds

[austere igloo]

Yep, I have it too

[unreal gale]

cbr mythic draw

[austere igloo]

That mythic is trash, ngl

Cbr danger close is bttr by a mile

[unreal gale]

I actually like it

[hollow panther]

Yeah one the worst

[young shale]

carbon cut is low budget electron

[unreal gale]

I like blunt feeling skins

[young shale]

i didn't use cbr for forever

[unreal gale]

and I think the tactical sprint fits the deisgn very well

[austere igloo]

Cbr mythic is just like its theme…for the garbage

[young shale]

i got danger close by luck

[hollow panther]

I dont really find too many skins overrated

[austere igloo]

I never did

[unreal gale]

you gotta put diamond on it

[young shale]

i was opening all my crates and i smh got it

[austere igloo]

Nah I’m good

I have aqua leviathan cbr

[young shale]

danger close better floating scope

[hollow panther]

Thats the messi one?

[narrow glen]

@hollow panther, 51 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

No

The messi one is cbr lattice

[young shale]

but who still uses cbr

[austere igloo]

dumb garena players

[young shale]

switch already took over it

[young shale]

no i see more switch

i rarely see cbr now

its like one cbr out of 20 games

nvm 10

[unreal gale]

trying to find a picture of it 💀

[austere igloo]

This is aqua leviathan, in case ur wondering

[hollow panther]

Oh that

Seeing more and more mythic switchbaldes

People getting money

[unreal gale]

there's lattice which was always nice

[austere igloo]

[hollow panther]

Although it has less aim assist than the base

Good skin

[austere igloo]

Been using it since 2022

& also

[austere igloo]

M16 is good

[young shale]

i jsut realised all my loadouts are scrim loadouts

its just all hunter kill, pred and emp

plus lightweight toughness and deady

i got gung ho on some

[unreal gale]

red dot is definitely better

but it's still not great

[hollow panther]

Rds best attachment on a gun ask garena

[unreal gale]

yeah ngl could just be because m13 sucks lol

also 40 bullets feels like nothing

might have to use 60 round mag

build looks so goofy

yikes only 26m of range

[hollow panther]

Ik people whp pick up your gun is mad

[unreal gale]

nah they loving it trust

but yeah, red dot actually feels pretty good

better than base

I feel like I don't deserve to own mythics with my opinion on the rds lol

will probably be using rds with the mythic grau too

[hollow panther]

Interesting ngl

[austere igloo]

Good thing I don’t slap on rds on my umbrella m13

U gon’ make me mad if u do so @unreal gale

[unreal gale]

I tried the sight

it's actually good

[austere igloo]

Good

I would hate if u put an rds on that fine specimen of a sight

[heady shuttle]

is there a weapon tier list somewhere?

[unreal gale]

yeah here

[young shale]

is it me or assualt knife gives smoother movement

[unreal gale]

Grau HVK LK Kilo KN Holger Switchblade QQ9 CX9 UL > All others

[unreal gale]

uhh what do you mean by that

[young shale]

basically every comp gun

[young shale]

idk does it look like assualt knife gives smoother movement

[unreal gale]

like to you or other people observing you?

[young shale]

other people seeing me

[unreal gale]

oh uhh idk about that one

[young shale]

cos to me it already feels smooth

[unreal gale]

but you don't want smooth

you want other people to see you glitch across the map if possible

[young shale]

im a movement monkey thats' why

[unreal gale]

smooth = easy to track, easy to beam

[young shale]

i want lawyrxl or borg kinda movement

so far my movement is ass

i need at least decent movement

[heady shuttle]

damn i have been leveling cbr4 > < guess i need to start over

[dawn stag]

as long as you are used to it I guess it doesn't even matter, just about preference

[unreal gale]

if you like cbr, try uhh ffar?

[heady shuttle]

and lvling ak-47 too 😦

i do get owned by a lot of qq9 and grau lol

[dawn stag]

as long as you are fine with the gun it doesn't matter, gun doesn't have to be meta

I play Oden 💀

[unreal gale]

better guns make you perform better.

[dawn stag]

activision should buff oden, right now the multiplier is very bad or they change the duplex ammo

[narrow glen]

@dawn stag, 11 Server Rank

[dawn stag]

well as long as you are happy it is fine

[unreal gale]

do you need to play better? well no

but why not play better?

[dawn stag]

well gaming is just for fun for most of us, there is no need to be always on "meta"

[unreal gale]

part of the reason why meta guns are meta is because they feel good and everyone likes them

[dawn stag]

well true

I don't use some of the meta guns because I dislike the way they behave but i'm still happy

[unreal gale]

you're creating quite a lot of strawmans here. but I get what you mean.

[dawn stag]

(i'm not a good player

[dawn stag]

eh true

[unreal gale]

everyone plays games for fun, it's just about what you think is fun

no one actually plays games like their lives depended on it lol

[dawn stag]

streamers: h e l l o

[unreal gale]

they play for fun too

everyone plays it mostly for fun

you just have other benefits that are like "why not"s

[dawn stag]

well yes, you're right

[unreal gale]

oh yeah and also, the guy did ask for the best guns xD

[dawn stag]

oh

[rich arch]

Is this DRH build good?:
Tac sup, tac laser, granulated, 25 otm and strike stock?

[ocean narwhal]

mono better i think

drh bsa isnt that bad anymore

[tawny walrus]

No.

[rich arch]

Pfff

[rich arch]

just use marksman barrel

and no stock

if you refuse to use barrel, just go owc laser

(if you aren‘t playing snd or against high tier device)

So many different suggestions I don't know which one to choose

[digital sandal]

Did u pray today???

[rich arch]

Camper group suggesting marksman suggest the buff is huge
this server suggest no stock owc laser typical rush n gun

it depends on if you want to go global plays or CN plays

P.S: some people see the laser bright asf

Hmmm

you could get exposed quick with it

CN I guess is the fastest one?

Marksman, No stock
Granulated, 25 OTM
Then I guess tac sup?

tac or mono as you like

CN drh build is a passive one

Won't the marksman make the gun slow?

yes so pre aim

[rich arch]

Ohh

don‘t always run and gun

playing passive are the thing you do most of the time with ARs

you either camp a cover or ambush to begin the fight

and camping a cover are the most common and safiest opinion to start gunfights

Marksman I guess for the range?

the bsa

it is like -18%

a lot compare to other AR‘s marksman barrel

[ocean narwhal]

didnt realise that

thats a shit ton of bsa damn

[rich arch]

Wouldn't the strike stock and granulated tape compensate the ads spread?

Or we want even more ?

[rich arch]

most people use strike stock to reduce horizontal recoil on ar or hit flinch on lmg
if you hate laser, yes tape is good to go

it is like asking why go strike stock even sks has shit ads movement speed that does not fit current run n gun meta

or why strike stock for hvk

it is just barrel also gives range

Great

[digital needle]

I guess J3 is better than Diggle now .. just look at damage on first range.

[keen gazelle]

statistically yes but the deagle is 10x better to use

but yeah the damage is crazy, 1 shot chest at 8 and 1 shot head till 30?? crazy numbers lol

compared to the 1 tap head at 13m for deagle

[tawny walrus]

Desert Eagle has more magazine capacity.

[rich arch]

Thats not how you use ars really

Maybe lmgs but ars are for mid pace and mid range usually

Meant to handle short range from time to time as well

[strange rivet]

hi hello and happy 93 minutes before i am forced into adulthood

[ocean narwhal]

welcome to hell

[vast horizon]

I need fennec snd build pls

[tired grove]

Yeah

[strange rivet]

mono suppressor
ext light barrel
operator grip
extended mag
granulated grip

p sure this is the new build

[vast horizon]

Ty

[rich arch]

I have a holger 26 gunsmith pls

[jovial spruce]

?

[rich arch]

I have a holger 26

and I want a good gunsmith

[jovial spruce]

Oh you want a gunsmith sure

Let me get it

[rich arch]

yes

[rich arch]

thnx

[jovial spruce]

Ok this is what I use

Owc light suppressor

Mip light barrel

No stock

Double carbine mag

Fmj

Use a red dot if you don't like the iron sight

[rich arch]

okay tysm

[jovial spruce]

Lmao good luck

[rich arch]

@jovial spruce bro do you have any other skin of ghost

[jovial spruce]

Nah

[rich arch]

any good skin??

that you can give

[jovial spruce]

Welp I'm kinda new

[rich arch]

what is your rank

[jovial spruce]

Also you can't gift skins

[jovial spruce]

Legendary both on mp and br

[rich arch]

damn you are really ahead from me

[jovial spruce]

What's your rank ?

[rich arch]

I am only master1

about to be master 2

[jovial spruce]

Good luck

[rich arch]

thnx

[rich arch]

bro what is the best gun for mp according to you

[jovial spruce]

Uhhh

Depends on the mode

I'd say smgs for tdm and frontline

And I really like the hvk for snd

[rich arch]

ok thnx

[austere igloo]

Anyone here uses ots9?

[jovial spruce]

Nope

[austere igloo]

& how was it for u

I saw that msg

[jovial spruce]

Ehhh I'd say the mag size was too small

[austere igloo]

Extended mag exists

[jovial spruce]

And I suck with smgs soo no wonder

[austere igloo]

[tawny walrus]

I got diamond for OTs, so I won’t use it.

[austere igloo]

I hvnt got it

My progress thus far for diamond

[tawny walrus]

I have only Striker and CX left to grind.

[austere igloo]

Same

I’ve pretty much grinded diamond on all smgs except hg40, razorbaka, pharo, cx9, ots & striker (I don’t even have gold for striker)

Striker is such a letdown

[jovial spruce]

True

Its such a mid gun

It's not even mid it's just borderline bad

[tawny walrus]

I tried Striker once again and I really like it.

It’s a way better than from my previous experience.

[maiden helm]

Hello

[narrow glen]

@maiden helm, 10 Server Rank

[maiden helm]

Anyone up for 1v1 sniper

[digital needle]

Striker 45 is great gun

My main gun of most fps games

[digital needle]

Yea but not frequently

[tawny walrus]

It’s decent.

[strange rivet]

Hello from 18 year old me

[minor flare]

Worst range value and bad recoil

[jovial spruce]

How does it feel ?

[tawny walrus]

Happy cake day.

[austere igloo]

I still fail to see anything worth liking abt it

[tawny walrus]

2-3 tap at first ranges, manageable recoil, you can use it as AR.

[rich arch]

It has a tiny 3 tap range which drops off to 4 and even 5 shots quickly with a slow fire rate and bad recoil

[austere igloo]

Are you using the 12rnd burst mag?

[tawny walrus]

Normal one.

[rich arch]

Its extremely outclassed as an auto or burst

[austere igloo]

Striker normal mag can’t two-tap lol u high?

[mental flare]

annyones got a ul build

[tawny walrus]

Two tap headshot.

[digital needle]

Headshot damage ..

[austere igloo]

Even 3-tap for striker is a lucky one

[rich arch]

Can we just agree that its trash 💀

[young shale]

Bro pfp wildin

[rich arch]

Camo grinding for it was hell

[tawny walrus]

No.

[austere igloo]

It’s hard to hit head when aiming with striker coz it has ass bsa

[tawny walrus]

No.

[austere igloo]

I will consider it trash

[rich arch]

Its outclassed by every single 3 tap gun

[austere igloo]

Till the end of time

[tawny walrus]

Okay, and?

[rich arch]

Tfym no, I got it to gold for damascus and it was awful—IN SHIPMENT

[austere igloo]

I do not consider striker to be the league of “good”

[rich arch]

Its d tier

[austere igloo]

D tier is already pretty generous

[tawny walrus]

I’m dominating with that on the same map.

[austere igloo]

It should be a D-

[tawny walrus]

Certified skill issue moment.

[austere igloo]

Your opponents suck prolly

[rich arch]

Fr

[austere igloo]

Coz no actual pro person would use striker & dominate

[rich arch]

Skill issue is wild though, I do better with most guns than others 💀

[tawny walrus]

No, I got different kinds of sweats, but I still was doing great.

[rich arch]

It is well known to be awful

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 30 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

Mind u I can perform bttr with drh than asm, even though asm is statiscally superior to the drh

But striker stat wise is obviously inferior

[rich arch]

Yup

Its like a really bad asm10

[tawny walrus]

If you can’t play with Striker, then problem is definitely in you.

[austere igloo]

Not at all

[rich arch]

I can play with it its just awful and everyone would agree

[austere igloo]

I have dominated with a shitty ass burst like pharo

[tawny walrus]

Who’s everyone?

[austere igloo]

But does that mean the gun is good? No

[rich arch]

Like every person ive seen and every youtuber

[austere igloo]

Using a shit gun well doesn’t make the gun not shit

[rich arch]

Exactly

[austere igloo]

It just means your skill is better

[rich arch]

Like I love the hbra3 but its b tier

[tawny walrus]

Pharo is garbage, I agreed, but Striker isn’t.

[rich arch]

B- really

[austere igloo]

Means your opponents suck @tawny walrus

[rich arch]

Lets look at its ranges shall we?

[austere igloo]

You are more skilled than them to use striker & dominate but that doesn’t automatically mean striker is the new meta

[tawny walrus]

Are you high? I just told you that I’m getting sweaty opponents.

[tawny walrus]

Sure. Go ahead.

[austere igloo]

Yea, but that doesn’t make the striker suddenly good

You are just skilled enough to use a shit gun & be able to dominate sweats

[young shale]

Nah its just that youre cracked

[austere igloo]

But that doesn’t make the striker good by any means

[tawny walrus]

It’s your opinion and I’m not agreed with it.

[young shale]

You know u actually good when any gun feels good

[austere igloo]

I mean…with your logic, I can also say that I used chicom & dominated an entire lobby of sweats & say it’s good

[tawny walrus]

Chicom is good indeed.

[austere igloo]

What I said is not an opinion, it’s fact

[tawny walrus]

It’s an opinion.

[austere igloo]

It’s not

You can make the same analogy in chess

[tawny walrus]

Yes, it is.

[austere igloo]

If I say that I can beat u in chess with knights & pawns instead of the queen, does that mean the knights & pawns are better than the queen?

[rich arch]

Initial ranges of drh v striker

[austere igloo]

It doesn’t. It just means I can play better

[rich arch]

Look at the recoil pattern too

[austere igloo]

Same thing with you

You can beat sweats with striker, while they use meta, it doesn’t mean striker is better than the meta

[rich arch]

Maxed out ranges for both ^^

You might do well with it but it doesnt make the gun good simple as that

[tawny walrus]

How can you tell? Other player have other opinions about figures in chess and they can like/dislike some of them.

[rich arch]

Chess isn’t codm 💀

[tawny walrus]

Analogy is bad then.

[rich arch]

Striker is generously d tier just like its shotgun by the same name

[tawny walrus]

Again, it’s your opinion.

[austere igloo]

It’s the same fucking analogy bruh wtf

How do u even…y’know what? I’m done

[rich arch]

Its not opinion, its stats are trash as are its performance. Sure, if I used it a bit I could do okay with it bc im decent, but that does not make the gun good

[austere igloo]

@undone sandal is the striker45 smg good?

[rich arch]

Player skill does not equal gun quality

[austere igloo]

This, exactly

[rich arch]

Ferg nukes with these trash guns but it dont make them decent even 💀

[tawny walrus]

Indeed - CODM has 115 different kinds of weapons, while chess has 6 types of figures. And unlike CODM, chess has fixed rules. Great fucking analogy, Sherlock.

Sorry, *113.

[austere igloo]

This statement…wow

I’m not even gonna bother explaining how that statement makes zero coherent sense

[rich arch]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[austere igloo]

You’re done, bud

[ocean narwhal]

META = most effective tactics available

refers to the most statstically superior guns in game

[austere igloo]

Striker is def not up there

[ocean narwhal]

NOT your favourite gun

[austere igloo]

But we’ll let Mr. Delulu here believe what he wants to believe

[rich arch]

Its not even close to meta its garbage bruh

[ocean narwhal]

you like the striker? i respect that

[austere igloo]

By his logic, mw11 is also meta

[ocean narwhal]

but its nowhere close to meta

[austere igloo]

Since I like to use mw11

[rich arch]

I love crossbow but its not meta

[austere igloo]

I like fhj too

Does that mean its good?

[rich arch]

D13 sector traumatized me so I can’t even say that 💀

[rich arch]

N o

[austere igloo]

Correct

[rich arch]

Camo grinding helped me evaluate all weapons

[austere igloo]

By far pharo is my fav meme wpn

[rich arch]

I can admit if I just suck with a gun but that is fr just bad gun 💀

[rich arch]

I had a clip of it the other day lol hold up

[ocean narwhal]

im a certified meta abuser

my loadouts are full of metas

[rich arch]

Same here but ranked calls

[rich arch]

The upload size of the in-match clip was too large 🗿

Also this is me CONTROLLING the recoil

[ocean narwhal]

fucking taser

[tawny walrus]

You don’t make any sense for me either.

[rich arch]

Worst build I could possibly make

[jovial spruce]

The new tournament camo looks horrendous

[rich arch]

P.S: LG hippo mention this gun is having difficult recoil and shit BV even having a considered low fire rate

It is the gun's fault in that perspective if any of top 5000 found it is more difficult to use than other weapon and feels less rewarding

[rich arch]

It is like asking why you don't use striker instead of grau in high rank lobbies

It is easier to get the job done that's it

[austere igloo]

Exactly this

But sure, I don’t make sense

[austere igloo]

As if you had ever did

[jovial spruce]

The striker 45 is bad

Get over it

[ruby iris]

Striker 45 is good

in zombies

(prolly)

Source: my ass

[sharp violet]

What are some good builds for mp ranked legendary

[tawny walrus]

No.

[vale lichen]

[tired grove]

Yeah

Sometimes

[vale lichen]

U all r on meth?

[tired grove]

What do you mean?

[vale lichen]

Ump not good enough

Bad iron too

[tired grove]

Ironsight is mid

Both good and bad

In my opinion

[vale lichen]

Still there r better options like qq9 and fennec

[tired grove]

Or the CBR

[vale lichen]

Cbr lost its meta place

Still its ok

[tired grove]

Yeah

RIP CBR

[vale lichen]

Longest meta

[tired grove]

True

[rich arch]

Isn't pdw took its place and inherited its legacy

[vale lichen]

Last season

They nerfed it though but its doin good

[rich arch]

It's just a recoil nerf

[vale lichen]

Yes

Ppl stopped using it after seeing the red arrow😂

[rich arch]

He said in zombies

💀

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

If you build it like a shooting knife it's secondary meta

7.33m/s sprint speed at max

Almost a knife

[undone sandal]

no lol

[strong monolith]

Striker is arguably the worst SMG in the game rn

[undone sandal]

true

id use any other smg

in a heartbeat

[strong monolith]

Bad recoil
Bad fire rate
Slower ADS time for an SMG
Punishing leg multis

What does this gun even have going for?

TTK and mobility that other SMGs also have but with none of those downsides

[rich arch]

A shitty bp skin and an even shittier legendary

[ornate jackal]

Pharo

Ksp

[ruby iris]

They good

Genuinely

[rich arch]

How is ksp the worst

You have to have negative braincells to think that

[ornate jackal]

Striker got a buff recently

[rich arch]

And? It's still shit

[ornate jackal]

If im not mistaken pharo has some niche with stun gun

Ksp literally definition of mid

[ruby iris]

Pharo recoil got gigabuffed

[rich arch]

Yeah but still randomised

[ruby iris]

Still better than striker

[rich arch]

No disagreement

[ornate jackal]

Striker has better dmg up to 22m
Has better bullet impact
Better fire interval

Since i dont like either i went to stats

And basically everything else is very similar with striker or ksp winning

[stoic mountain]

Hi I got banned for no reason after jailbreak

Where do I appeal on CODM website it has no option for Facebook or Apple

[tawny walrus]

Okay, I’ll run Striker in ranked and record that, since there’s no common sense.

I’m done with that.

[strong monolith]

At least Pharo has a niche in which it can kill in less than 150ms if you are accurate

[young shale]

since when yall started trying out striker

[strong monolith]

Striker's got no role that it excels in and its not like its an all rounder either

[real crescent]

Jailbreak will get you banned and this isn't the channel for this kind of issue please create a forum in #1020027756463009906

[young shale]

i still remember how that shit used to have broken strafe

it was like on par with prime mac-10 strafe speed

[ornate jackal]

Ye i take back the pharo propaganda

[stoic mountain]

Permanent? And done

[vale lichen]

Meta for 1day

[glossy copper]

Hey ur a mod right? Can you please change my nickname to Rhea ?
For some reason im not able to do it

[vale lichen]

You have to get to pro rank to change nick name

[rancid verge]

U need to lvl up through chatting to get a certain rank on the discord to unlock name change perms

[glossy copper]

Oh

[tawny walrus]

Ranked game with Striker. 🥱

[rancid verge]

Mods only change offensive names

[glossy copper]

Thank you for informing people!!@rancid verge @vale lichen

[tawny walrus]

The worst SMG in the game, by the way.

[glossy copper]

Makes sense

[sudden holly]

Isn't striker a shotgun?

[rancid verge]

POV u r name gets changed🤣

[real crescent]

done

[tawny walrus]

There are two Strikers in the game.

[glossy copper]

Oh thank you so much!!

[glossy copper]

Yea i didn't even notice lol

[sudden holly]

Oh

I just use fennec

[real crescent]

what your banned message says can you post it and open an forum in the given channel #1020027756463009906

[stoic mountain]

I did

[vale lichen]

It can slay but there are better alternatives

[stoic mountain]

Oh what it says

[vale lichen]

Its like fav gun>>any gun

[real crescent]

okay i'll respond

[rich arch]

Best smg hip fire build for BR?

I'm currently using ots, but I'm not really sure

[tawny walrus]

PPSH, Cordite, Fennec.

[rancid verge]

Fennec<<<CX-9

[rich arch]

Can you give me build for ppsh?

Or would maybe jak12 be a better option?

[rancid verge]

Just go all range first then mip laser and hipfire attaches and if u have some left go mobility

For hipfire builds

[strong monolith]

There are 2 options you can have
PPSh, Better mag size, better hipfire spread (no need to ADS)

• Flash guard
• Light short barrel
• Skeleton stoc
• Tough fg
• 5mW
  Mods: Hipfire, Long range, Ext mag

LAPA, Better TTK, better mobility (This one is better if you don't hipfire all the time)

• BR Compact barrel
• 5mW
• 50r mag
• Firm grip tape
• Red cell fg
  Mods: Hipfire, Long range, Ext mag

[austere igloo]

You don’t have common sense

[austere igloo]

I don’t hipfire all the time so I’ll prolly go for lapa for the free vehicle damage

[strong monolith]

I don't think the vehicle barrel is worth it since you will lose out on the TTK potential

[austere igloo]

Is it fine if I replace my laser with an optic? Coz I can’t stand the obstructive lapa sights

[tawny walrus]

Try this.

[strong monolith]

No
If you are gonna swap out an attachment, swap out the fg
Laser is far too valuable

[austere igloo]

I don’t hipfire a lot though

But I’ll try it

[strong monolith]

The penalty from losing the fg is far less than losing the laser

[ornate jackal]

Lapa has horrible ttk from my experience

[austere igloo]

That better?

[strong monolith]

It all depends on the barrel

[ornate jackal]

I had extended mag and ran out of bullets before it killed

[austere igloo]

I’m not sure how 25% range nerf & 15% vert recoil helps lapa for body part dmg multis & 10% lateral recoil buff

[ornate jackal]

I literally had to snipe to get the kill

[rich arch]

Thx for the builds @tawny walrus @austere igloo

[austere igloo]

Np

[rich arch]

Thx for the info @strong monolith

[ornate jackal]

This build

I had like 50 round mag i think

And i was within 20m

It wasnt a bot i almost died

[ocean narwhal]

suppressor useless in br

[ornate jackal]

I had to grapple on top of a house and snipe him from above

[strong monolith]

The boosted multis is what helps the gun
On the base gun, you need to land 2 chest shots + 3 upper arms or 3 chest shots
But with BR compact, you only need 1 chest and the rest can be the full arm which is way easier to achieve

[ornate jackal]

I used it mainly for the vert recoil and i like the sound of suppressed lapa

[strong monolith]

LAPA is around top 3 in terms of SMG TTK (688ms)
But you need to land upper body shots
If not, the TTK is average

[ornate jackal]

Im positive i hit upper back 4 times when emptying mag

[strong monolith]

Must be a placebo thing then

[ornate jackal]

Oden ttk tho it only needs 4 shots😍

[strong monolith]

6 shots*

[ornate jackal]

Are ur stats with or without the extra pellet thing

[strong monolith]

Base gun

[austere igloo]

Fair

[strong monolith]

With or without, the shots to kill are the same

[ocean narwhal]

doesnt matter

its all based on 300hp

[austere igloo]

Btw how’s qxr custom for br? @strong monolith

[strong monolith]

I'd swap fg for the marksman barrel because of the range boost
The second one is personal for me but I would use no stock instead of the flash guard (I ADS more with QXR)

But keep the rest

[austere igloo]

Aight

I built my qxr like that coz it’s much more stable when ads’ing with it

[rich arch]

Btw do I need extended mag mod for ppsh?

[austere igloo]

Not really

65 rounds is usually enough

[strong monolith]

Its not that its 100% necessary but its because the other mods aren't super useful on it

[pliant maple]

Guys I need a M13 gunsmith

[shrewd fern]

Can someone suggest me an ar with a red dot build

[pliant maple]

And I have the mythic skit too

[formal river]

K hold on

[formal river]

You choose

[lean frost]

nail gun is funni

[rich arch]

Lk24 is number 1

No stock
40 mag
Tac suppressor
Rds
Gran grip

[ruby iris]

No stock lk

Das new

Or old, like very old

[lean frost]

Do u have the chat for Na45's lethal zone with the different mags by any chance
Or whichever mag has the largest lethal zone

[ruby iris]

Ask @undone sandal

They have documented it iirc

Also explosion dmg decay in codm is dumb

[lean frost]

the link for the doc isn't in tych's about me anymore

[ruby iris]

Like you hitmark at a certain range, but 1 tap at further range

[ruby iris]

Ping them and ask

[undone sandal]

server profiles
its still there

[robust musk]

Ping them 5x for immediate action

[unique schooner]

Make it 7 so they give link

[tawny walrus]

Hiiii~

[undone sandal]

kalo

strange how that one didnt get removed

but 5 did

[unique schooner]

So 7 is the magic number

[ruby iris]

[unique schooner]

Noted

[tired grove]

Your profile is too much white my eyes got blind

[dusty heart]

I agree

[tired grove]

Your one too!

But not much as that one

[robust musk]

Ahahaha funni times

[tired grove]

True

[strange rivet]

Idk how to feel man
For one thing I'm excited but for another I'm kinda nervous

Having to live the adult life

[nova iron]

Did they Nerf the stopping power reload for arctic 50?

Honestly I don't really feel a difference

Still one shots above waist and 85 damage below waist

[digital needle]

Nerf and buff

[viscid belfry]

not worth tbh

[tired grove]

Damage range and Damage went gone

[tawny walrus]

Indeed.

[tired grove]

Huh?

[tawny walrus]

Arctic became less useful.

[viscid belfry]

useless

[tawny walrus]

Yes, useless.

[nova iron]

What's another alternative?

[tawny walrus]

SVD, RyTec.

[vale lichen]

Who is going to tell them😂

She is better than ferg on his peak now tbh

[tawny walrus]

Ferg is extremely cringe.

[vale lichen]

*now a days

I mean old ferg

I don't want to watch a random guy reacting to clips

Anyway

[tired grove]

Yes

[tired grove]

Nowdays

We want the old Ferg back

[velvet helm]

By15 or krm in br?

[wide ore]

With Manta ray 😂

[wide ore]

Krm is better because by15 has a much reload speed

[velvet helm]

But the by has better spread

[wide ore]

Yeah it's bad for a bit long range and awesome to kill some campers in close range

[velvet helm]

True I prefer the krm iron sights

[wide ore]

Yeah
And for mp, i prefer echo

It's good

[velvet helm]

Really!!

The echo was awful for getting plat

[wide ore]

Add me bro
My codm ID is

TMWxMATRIX:yt

[velvet helm]

Give me a bit

[rich arch]

He sounds a little like those guys who are making ads on teleshop

[digital needle]

Really? Use ads build and see the results

Full auto shotguns won't be effective as much if you don't aim down your sight

[vale lichen]

Blue color==10/10🤣

[pale willow]

Pkm is awesome sauce

[ornate jackal]

Nah jak can do both

[rich arch]

Echo is actually fire when you ads bruh if you hipfire with it thats misusing it

Otherwise it has good one tap range and great two tap range

[ocean narwhal]

r90:

[rancid verge]

Argus

[rich arch]

R90 is a lot slower to kill in longer ranges for me, it might be the sights

[rich arch]

Argus works like a marksman that’s different

[bright dragon]

@rich arch If I use the 40 round silence mag what would I take off because I don’t need 2 attachments that are making the gun suppressed

[rich arch]

Id recommend a tac laser but if you dont like it might as well keep it as is ig

I really prefer a laser slot personally tho

[bright dragon]

I’ve been trying to play without a laser only because it gives away my position all of the time and since I’m using ghost and dead silence I’m trying to be completely off the map

I’m trying to make it have barely any recoil

I feel it’s a rushing AR but the mobility kinda sucks

[rich arch]

Thats fair

[ocean narwhal]

its not a rushing ar

[rich arch]

Heavy long barrel kills the mobility

[rich arch]

Its flex

[ocean narwhal]

thats ffar

m13 lacks the close range ttk to play flex

[rich arch]

Ive mained the m13 since release :/ I know its flex

[ocean narwhal]

but if u want to make it faster just swap the barrel

[rich arch]

Thats a reason the silencer barrel is nice

Maybe a foregrip could be better or a perk to swap out the muzzle, or even a mono if you like range

[ocean narwhal]

pls change the appearance of muzzle to default

[bright dragon]

How do you play flex?

[ocean narwhal]

uh

challenge mid range fights mostly

[bright dragon]

Ah ok I can still move around and not have to camp right because that’s boring just camping

[ocean narwhal]

that would be main ar playstyle

holding angles

[bright dragon]

What builds do you have for it? You probably have a few if it’s main for you

[rich arch]

Yeah one sec

[bright dragon]

I made this one I tried the grip like you said it’s not to bad it only has -10% hit flinch and -5% vertical recoil

[rich arch]

I prefer combat stock usually due to less bsa and recoil penalties, but if you’re really going for movement then use no stock.

[ocean narwhal]

what the fuckkk

[rich arch]

The first is a no laser and no sight build, the second has a sight and laser that are swappable but its my more long range build, and the last is my main

[rich arch]

Thats an interesting build lol

Mini barrel isn’t best, id use silencer barrel due to the extra range and bullet speed

At no movement speed penalty

[bright dragon]

Ok I’ll switch the barrel on that one!

[rich arch]

Then you can use a 60 rd mag and ranger foregrip is okay, combat stock if you also prefer that lower recoil, and otherwise fine

Its an easy gun to adapt to your needs tbh

[ocean narwhal]

272ms ads is good for flex playstyle

and u get very good effective range

[bright dragon]

This is my first build 1, I saved this one, making a second one to try a different style

[ocean narwhal]

aggressive?

or passive

aggressive

[bright dragon]

I tried to make your last build here but I didn’t put a sight on it because it basically has a red dot built in

[ocean narwhal]

u can change fg to perk of choice

[rich arch]

Looks good

[bright dragon]

I like aggressive styles

[rich arch]

And if you dont like lasers you can:

Swap to disable perk if you hit legs a lot, fmj if you try to wallbang much, or use a foregrip of your choice

An operator foregrip would work pretty well if its a lot of recoil

[ocean narwhal]

main ar build

[bright dragon]

Thanks for all the options guys!

[rich arch]

Npnp

[ocean narwhal]

u can use mono and still have good ads speed for a main ar build

[bright dragon]

This is the aggressive version right?

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[bright dragon]

Ok I’ll add this one to

[ocean narwhal]

235ms ads speed

[rich arch]

All I can say it I like my build lol this is just my second match today

[bright dragon]

Which one was this specifically?

[rich arch]

This one though probably wouldnt work best for you bc you dont need a red dot or a laser due to snd

Just finished another match

[ornate jackal]

Everyone downvoting all the ppsh builds when they correct

[bright dragon]

I’ll try this out I don’t need the red dot though because it has a built in one

[rich arch]

Ik thats why I said it won’t work the same for you, m13 mythic makes things a lot easier anyways

[rich arch]

Yours is the only decent one ive seen ngl

4th match lol

[pulsar oxide]

Glock gunsmith?

[formal river]

Ngl, that build is really slow

[rich arch]

Use a no stock or combat stock and its pretty flawless 🤷‍♂️

[keen gazelle]

assault tactical?

is that combat stock

i’ve never seen that name lol

[rich arch]

No its like strike stock

[keen gazelle]

oh i’ve just never used it then

[rich arch]

Yeah bc the m13 doesnt need it

[unreal gale]

ooo this is interesting. Let me try it

wait I don't have tactical suppressor yet 💀

it has 30m of range. should be enough

[ruby iris]

Where's your exp cards?

[unreal gale]

new account

[ruby iris]

Wae tho?

[unreal gale]

clean slate

whaled every skin available rn on it

[hollow panther]

But why

[unreal gale]

wanted to start afresh

[young shale]

what playstyle is m13 meant for

aggresive?

[tawny isle]

yes

[ruby iris]

Passive imo

[ruby iris]

That's ffar

[young shale]

i thought high fire rate = aggresive

can i build for more flex tho?

[tawny isle]

not always

[ruby iris]

High fire rate is just a generally desirable trait

[tawny isle]

its mostly mobility, range, etc

[ruby iris]

Yes, but i would recommend to just use ffar for flex, and m13 for main

[young shale]

main m13 build (passive)?

[ruby iris]

Heavy long
Tac supp
60r
Assault stock
Gran tape

Assault stock can be perk/optic

[young shale]

ok noice

[rich arch]

Exactly

Because it's not so punishing if you miss a few bullets

Unlike oden or man o war

[loud junco]

does anyone got a nice build for the SVD

[wispy juniper]

Can someone give me a curse build and I gotta drop a nuke with it

[ruby iris]

Tac suppressor
510mm barrel
Disable
Skeleton stock
15r mag/optic

You could also go with mag and optic over disable

[loud junco]

thanks is it fast

tryna get good at sniping

movement and stuff

[wispy juniper]

So why the svd

[ruby iris]

As fast as it can be without nuking the range

[loud junco]

because the svd is the best sniper in the game

[young shale]

because there a reason why svd is banned

[wispy juniper]

😭it's and terrble choice

[young shale]

ok that not true tho

[wispy juniper]

Nope

It's the dlq and the locus

[young shale]

wouldn't be if it was banned from comps

[wispy juniper]

It was ban bc how ppl use to abuse it

[loud junco]

damn ok💀 whats a good choice then if i want to be a good sniper

[young shale]

excatly so how is it not good if it is abusable

[wispy juniper]

Dlq or locus

[wispy juniper]

Bc how common do u see anyone use it?

[narrow glen]

@wispy juniper, 3 Server Rank

[loud junco]

i heard the outlaw fast but it dont one shot

[young shale]

its overshadowed

[wispy juniper]

Bruh it a sniper it does one shot to the chest or sometimes chin

[young shale]

outlaw is kinda
dead

xpr stopping better

[loud junco]

i see that

[wispy juniper]

I only does use outlaw for rushing

[young shale]

xpr stopping power plus mono supp is faster than outlaw max ads

or outlaw max ads with tac supp

[wispy juniper]

The m21 is best

Best 2 shot sniper fr

[young shale]

erm we talking about mp

[wispy juniper]

Ik

[young shale]

and xpr is one shot also

unless you keep shooting legs

[wispy juniper]

I mean xpr is good for holding corners

[young shale]

better than m21 at least

[wispy juniper]

Or spawn trapping

[young shale]

that's like the worst sniper to be spawntrapping with

[wispy juniper]

Outlaw spawn trapping or dlq or locus

[wispy juniper]

Zrg to

[wispy juniper]

Brooooo

[young shale]

outlaw isnt worth fmj

even with fmj it still hitmarkers

i can at least hit one shots wallbang with the xpr fmj

[ruby iris]

outlaw isnt worth fmj

[young shale]

imagine it was an actually good loadout for the hollow mag

[ornate jackal]

Outlaw just delete the gun and use base as dlq

[loud junco]

got the build lets try this shit

[young shale]

outlaw is like a in between fast sniper

its like overshadowed by so many snipers

[ruby iris]

Outlaw is the most balanced sniper

[unreal gale]

man gm tdm is cringe

[ruby iris]

Every other sniper is just broken

[unreal gale]

literally every single person camps in a corner

your entire team goes 2/15

[hollow panther]

Gott hit legendary man

[young shale]

but its still overshadowed by anoother snipers which are broken better in different aspects

[unreal gale]

tf can you do

[young shale]

classic gm lobbeis

[ruby iris]

Camp corners

[young shale]

they always say
if you can't beat them

join them

[formal river]

Wall hacks (FMJ)

[loud junco]

how would you guys rank the snipers in this game

or is this not the place to ask that

[young shale]

uh..

idk i can't really rank guns

they either gonna get flamed or its really random positioning

[hollow panther]

Hmmmm

[loud junco]

fair enough

[hollow panther]

Well lets lay out the good snipers

[loud junco]

the SVDDDD

[hollow panther]

Xpr, kosh, dlq, locus

svd is crazy

[loud junco]

🙁

[hollow panther]

Never seen it used and never seen it talked about

[young shale]

svd and xpr isn't really do much of a sniper

theyre like DMRs

[tawny isle]

fennec with tac scope

[hollow panther]

yh yh but xpr kinda broken rn

[young shale]

ong tho

[ruby iris]

Remove the kinda part

[young shale]

prob the next gun to be removed fromcomps

[young shale]

recoil galore

[ruby iris]

1. Xpr
2. Everything else

[young shale]

put as much recoil on the fennec

[unreal gale]

yeah I'm not camping corners just to win in bloody gm lobbies lol

[tawny isle]

its not that bad honestly

[young shale]

then u not winning

[tawny isle]

try it

[unreal gale]

just drop the mode

[young shale]

why didn't u think of that the first time

[unreal gale]

no games

[loud junco]

what is he doing grinding damaspenas?

[unreal gale]

?

wait what

[loud junco]

if that wat he doing then just leave the game honestly

if people are camping

[unreal gale]

wish there were more games

[ruby iris]

Ranked

[unreal gale]

#remove sbmm from <legendary

[tawny isle]

would you rather camp or lose 80 xp and grinding time

[loud junco]

damn

[young shale]

even leggy is better

[tawny isle]

has any active chat member actually ever matched with another active chat member

[wispy juniper]

Was pain

[tawny isle]

randomly

[unreal gale]

the game I played just then, on nuketown. The whole team was proning and shooting under the buses

[loud junco]

ranked is just like that

[unreal gale]

like seriously.

[wispy juniper]

@ruby iris done nuke

Now the fennec omg wdf is that build

[tawny isle]

troll build that guy asked for

[unreal gale]

there's no way you're nuking pubs as a challenge rn 🗿

[wispy juniper]

😭the rank lobbys gone be like wth is that build

[hollow panther]

Meta

[wispy juniper]

Even tho I got 14k points in rank mp to is omg

[tawny isle]

wild

[ruby iris]

Ranked

[unreal gale]

if you're at 14k already, might as well hit top 5k

[loud junco]

i mean there are ways you can outplay campers

[tawny isle]

last time i played pub i got a chopper gunner in 10 seconds and a nuke in 2 mins

[unreal gale]

wait how did you queue there?

[ruby iris]

Vng

[unreal gale]

oh

[ruby iris]

No

[unreal gale]

yikes that sucks

[ruby iris]

That was last week

[loud junco]

has anyone tried the nuketown from pixel gun

[tawny isle]

ultra sbmm

[ruby iris]

Nah, it's aight