codm-gunsmith-help

[rich arch]

And no full ammo perk use tac laser or gran grip tape

[ruby iris]

No

[vale lichen]

Drh is passive though

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

^

[rich arch]

Mono is more passive than tac suppressor

[ruby iris]

Realest of reals

[rich arch]

And no stock is just a sane choice for almost any gun

[ruby iris]

Nah

[rich arch]

Lol without it and those slow asf attachments you won’t be able to take any short range fight

[ruby iris]

Just pre aim

How hard can that be?

[rich arch]

Pre aiming doesnt always work

[ruby iris]

But it does

[rich arch]

Im too tired to argue ngl

[ruby iris]

Blud cant play passive smh

[rich arch]

Eh I have to in snd sometimes

[ruby iris]

But it's not a deliberate choice

[rich arch]

Or some objective maps

[rich arch]

Wdym

[ruby iris]

Make a gun with camping in mind, and use it exclusively for camping

[rich arch]

I have the ul for that

Going camping only is extremely boring though so I’ll at least slap a combat stock on

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

.

[vale lichen]

Passive and camping is 2 diff thing

[rich arch]

I can play passive I choose not to unless I literally can’t rush at the time

[rich arch]

In details yes

But generally passive means being very slow paced or still

[hollow panther]

Just means your not rushing everything just playing slow probably hold some doorways, corners

[vale lichen]

You don't need that much ads for passive

[hollow panther]

Lanes

[ruby iris]

You dont need any ads for passive

Go full sentry gun

[hollow panther]

hmm

[rich arch]

That’s camping 💀

[vale lichen]

I enter corners with pre aim lol

hardscope

[hollow panther]

Common strat

[vale lichen]

You are moving

[rich arch]

I preaim in snd but usually I rush

[rich arch]

Do sentry guns move

[hollow panther]

Nah ricey said full sentry gun

Aka camping

[vale lichen]

I just slide while aggressive lol

[hollow panther]

With camping tho your not moving out of one spot

[vale lichen]

And prehip fire

[rich arch]

Yup

[ruby iris]

Post up in the second floor of nuketown
Trophy
C4
Pinpoint
Alert
Transform shield

Wallbang the shit out of everything

[rich arch]

Thats full on camping

Takes next to no skill and is boring asf no thanks

[vale lichen]

*Front line

Trip mine
Rector core
Trophy

[hollow panther]

Wont say camping at top floor in nuketown is boring

Icl

[vale lichen]

Camp the shitt out of top 5k

[ruby iris]

"Camping takes no skill" mfs when the picked up my pkm (they cant kill for shit)

[rich arch]

Its boring if im not moving much

[hollow panther]

Front line is literally camp central

[rich arch]

Yup

[ruby iris]

Nah, i do hp
So i can wallbang downstairs

Look down and hipfire

Shoot the floor

[vale lichen]

💀💀

I don't play HP

[ruby iris]

You should

[vale lichen]

randoms always play for kills

[rich arch]

So skilled

[vale lichen]

I will the only one playing obj

[rich arch]

Fr

[vale lichen]

And get killed

[ruby iris]

Moving around what? The same exact 5 maps?

Moving
Standing still
Same shit

[rich arch]

Wild

[ruby iris]

I'd rather focus more on my aim

[rich arch]

Theres like 10-20 maps in rotation

[ruby iris]

Less time spent moving = more time spent aiming

[rich arch]

Rushing takes aim

Chicom build for MP?

More so than camping

Chicom is wild 🗿

I'll try it lol

[ruby iris]

Never seen a rusher with as good aim as a camper

[rich arch]

Yes they might miss more shots and theres an obvious reason why

When camping youre taking long range fights so when an enemy moves you barely have to move your crosshair

When rushing you often will swing your crosshair halfway across your screen or even a 180 to get a kill

[vale lichen]

Chicom more skilled gun than swordfish😂

[ruby iris]

And why bother with that

Inefficient asf ngl

[rich arch]

Its whats fun and works well for me

If you arent playing a game for fun or earning money off of it just quit tbh

Like genuinely whats the point

[ruby iris]

I fucking hate rushers ngl
Stupid ass fucks keeps rushing and dying

[rich arch]

Thats just a bad player

[ruby iris]

Flips spawn when they have spawn advantage

[ruby iris]

That's every rusher ever

[rich arch]

Lmao you aint the brightest bulb for saying that

[ruby iris]

All that and they dont even top frag

🚮

[rich arch]

Rushing takes skill and if someone is actually good at it then its extremely effective

Theres a difference between rushing and being a headless chicken

[ruby iris]

Both gets fucked by fmj lmg from outside the obj regardless

[rich arch]

Ive always rushed and I can usually get a 2-3 kd in tdm and be mvp

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

I dont play objective for that reason

You literally can’t rush in objective modes

Bottom of the skill tank too tbh

Snd is usually the most skilled followed by tdm then frontline
Dom and hardpoint are the easiest

[ruby iris]

2nd mf fed twice the amount i did

Just by rushing

[rich arch]

Then they suck

Simple as that

Imagine assigning a whole playstyle as bad bc of sucky players

[ruby iris]

Then every rusher sucks then, cuz i've been playing for years and havent met a good rusher

It's always the campers that's good

[rich arch]

Thats wild

Is gm the highest rank youve gone or smth 💀

[ruby iris]

Top 5k

[rich arch]

Ive seen rather few campers that actually have skill

[ruby iris]

Cant be bothered to play this season due to the amount of full auto dlqs

[rich arch]

Kills dont equal skills

[rich arch]

I havent seen a single hacker

[ruby iris]

Then you havent played the vietnamese server

[rich arch]

NA here

Region probably changes things a lot tbh

[ruby iris]

For stuff like tdm and frontline, yes, less deaths also counts

[rich arch]

Kd is different

[ruby iris]

The average matchmaking here:

[rich arch]

Even worse than here

I got top 5k and leaderboard players a lot in gm but never full stacks 💀

[ruby iris]

Look at what rank im at

[rich arch]

Yes I see 💀

[ruby iris]

1

[rich arch]

Earliest ive seen top 5k is gm 2 or 3

[ruby iris]

Lobbies arent that hard tbh

Or maybe im too used to auto dlq mfs

[rich arch]

Nah I averaged 2nd place in them 💀

Problems with ranking up to legendary in the first 5 days

[ruby iris]

1st place got lucky twice

4 kills 2nd round and 3 kills 4th round

[rich arch]

Sheesh

Snd requires so much sweating

[drowsy junco]

m passive snipe

[rich arch]

Thats so common 😭

[drowsy junco]

yeah but it works better than rushing

wait locus/dlq/artic?

[rich arch]

I only use dlq or hdr

[rich arch]

Lk24 or bizon or smth is good for rushing and holding an angle if need be thats how I usually run snd

[drowsy junco]

well my val would be my rush for most maps

[narrow glen]

@drowsy junco, 12 Server Rank

[rich arch]

Fmj mag im guessing?

[strange rivet]

Who pinged me

[ocean narwhal]

lk isnt good for rushing

smth like ffar or krig would be better

[rich arch]

Ive gone over this several times it works amazing if you build it right

[strange rivet]

Oh it was you

This is what happens when I'm inactive here

[ocean narwhal]

u cant change the fact that it has a slower fire rate and mobility with a build

[strange rivet]

[jovial spruce]

Ffar is crazy

[ocean narwhal]

wym

[drowsy junco]

sometimes

[rich arch]

🗿

[drowsy junco]

if its a CQC i go with extended

[rich arch]

Fair, works bad past mid range tho

[jovial spruce]

Did they nerf the Val cause I remember it was op af

[ocean narwhal]

nope

[drowsy junco]

yepp, cant flush out campers with that

[jovial spruce]

I stopped using it cause of moral issues

[drowsy junco]

its still op

[jovial spruce]

Same with the bison

[ocean narwhal]

its not even meta just use it if u want

also dont feel bad about using meta

if u cant beat it just join it

[rich arch]

Bizon is rarely used by good players oddly enough

[drowsy junco]

because they russian?

[rich arch]

I use it bc it has good range and bsa and ttk while keeping above 100 mobility

[ocean narwhal]

dont use the bar stats

misleading and basically pointless to use it as a reference

[rich arch]

Its quite fast either way

Despite having a 64 round mag and no recoil

Its really a great gun I just prefer lk since it can kill long range a bit better still

[drowsy junco]

recoil doesnt rlly matter to me, i somehow can control it real well

[jovial spruce]

Same

[ocean narwhal]

cuz hvk is a better alternative

only downside being mag size

[jovial spruce]

Yeah but the hvk has a really small mag

[tawny isle]

hvk has better dmg and infinite 3 tap for smaller mag

[rich arch]

Hvk is better than everything in short range

[ocean narwhal]

not infinite 3 tap

[rich arch]

Very short 3 tap range actually

[tawny isle]

yea it is

hold up lemme see

someone told me it is

[ocean narwhal]

3 headshots

[rich arch]

They are dead wrong

[ocean narwhal]

basically non existent potential

[rich arch]

If you want long 3 tap range thats consistent use ul

[ocean narwhal]

yep

[jovial spruce]

The ul is pretty underrated

[tawny isle]

oh yeah def not

[ocean narwhal]

just hit chest and arms

[tawny isle]

ul is weird to use for me

[jovial spruce]

Same with s36

[ocean narwhal]

it can 3 tap at the last range but needs 3 headshots

[drowsy junco]

i dont even use LMGs

[ocean narwhal]

useless potential

[ocean narwhal]

nah s36 is one of the worst lmgs in MP

[jovial spruce]

Eh but I still prefer the rpd

[ocean narwhal]

same for m4lmg

[drowsy junco]

me is M4 lmg

[ocean narwhal]

and dingo

[drowsy junco]

oops

[jovial spruce]

Yeah the m4lmg is garbage

[tawny isle]

bruen is growing onto me

[ocean narwhal]

dingo m4lmg s36 the garbage lmg trio

[tawny isle]

im starting to prefer it over krig

[jovial spruce]

No offence

[drowsy junco]

remove the U and you get a bren, how original activision

[jovial spruce]

Krigs iron sight is trash

That's the only reason I don't use it

[drowsy junco]

get a blue[print

[ocean narwhal]

the only bp with good irons are the mythic and legendary

[drowsy junco]

-$100

[tawny isle]

there arent many

[ocean narwhal]

even the turquoise griffin krig has trash irons

[tawny isle]

exactly

[ocean narwhal]

nah its not good

the rear sights are fat as hell

[tawny isle]

for the one in the cirrent bp i hoped it would be p2w

[jovial spruce]

The holgers iron sight is trash too

[tawny isle]

but its worse

[tawny isle]

yes

[jovial spruce]

But atleast the holger has some good blueprints

[tawny isle]

you need anodized, leggy or mythic

and the loss isnt that bad tbh

[ocean narwhal]

luckily anodized is in vault

[tawny isle]

yes but i dont wanna get it

im saiting for m13 umbrella blueprint

[ocean narwhal]

whats the vault for next season

[jovial spruce]

Ehh I main snipers I don't think it's worth it

Too bad there aren't any good koshka blueprints

[drowsy junco]

what is a good overall KD in MP?

[ocean narwhal]

2

[drowsy junco]

oh ok thanks

[bright dragon]

What’s going on her with the FFAR? This has 68 on range and is barely getting 12m of distance? Most guns at 68 range are getting way more than 12m. What is deciding this?

[ocean narwhal]

bro really using bar stats

[bright dragon]

I used both other guns that I have that have 68 range have way more than 12m

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 20 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

thats why u dont use bar stats

[rich arch]

It is suppose to be a 5stk AR with high fire rate like M13. it is just different from m13 by having a short range for 4 stk on chest in 12m.

[ocean narwhal]

also range is 30m

[bright dragon]

62 range on my grau but 20.5m

[rich arch]

In exchange for a unstablier recoil and bo gunsmith

[ocean narwhal]

.

[rich arch]

Considering it is a stable 5 stk at 30m below, it is fair enough.

[keen gazelle]

fill me in

im curious but not tryna read

[bright dragon]

What’s stk? I know ttk is time to kill

[keen gazelle]

shots to kill

soo 4 shots 3 shots until the enemy dies

[bright dragon]

Ah same thing then

[ocean narwhal]

not

[keen gazelle]

not rlly, one is time and the other is ammount, you can have a 500ms 3stk

[rich arch]

You are going to have fire rate advantage against grau, not viable suggesting grau has 70ms tho.

[keen gazelle]

or even 150ms 4stk

[rich arch]

However you must take all 4 shots to chest

[keen gazelle]

just giving examples

[bright dragon]

So looking at this pic the grau has 4stk at up to 20.5m?

[rich arch]

There will usually be low torso shots when foes are abusing jumpshots

[rich arch]

Yes

It also explain why grau becomes meta

[bright dragon]

So what makes the FFar better than the grau? Or is it not?

It’s definitely faster than grau but that’s it

[ocean narwhal]

grau is better than ffar for long range

ffar is better for close range because of its potentials and fire rate

[jovial spruce]

Grau feels weird to use idk why

[rich arch]

Tradeoff of superiority at cqb

[jovial spruce]

Did they change something about it ?

[rich arch]

Which is inevitable in most modes

[ocean narwhal]

only nerfed range by 2m

[jovial spruce]

That's it ?

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[jovial spruce]

Ehh it's probably cause I haven't used it in a while

Anyway what's the best sniper rifle

[rich arch]

you won't feel the superiority of SR if you don't hit shots at any distance, train shots first then ask.

[jovial spruce]

What

[rich arch]

you need to hit your shots

miss=die

[ocean narwhal]

koshka for quickscope
dlq for all rounded
xpr for spam/quickscope

[ocean narwhal]

but he asked what snipers are good

u didnt answer the question

[rich arch]

any snipers are shit if you can‘t hit shots

[ocean narwhal]

sherlock

[rich arch]

unless you are using sks

[ocean narwhal]

still doesnt answer his question

[rich arch]

Rytec are best

[ocean narwhal]

ur dog shat in ur cereal this morning or smth

[rich arch]

i just can‘t stand seeing rookie coming to CoD and ask to play sniper at first

[ocean narwhal]

still need to hit shots so it would be bad for u ngl

[keen gazelle]

you know other games exist right

[rich arch]

true but it is most spammable and take place like an assault rifl

[jovial spruce]

So I was right about koshka being better than the dlq in quickscoping

[ocean narwhal]

just use melee bro spam shoot and spin around

[keen gazelle]

not only that but skill transfers from console aswell..

[ocean narwhal]

yes

who said it isnt

[rich arch]

it is blankscope

[ocean narwhal]

both blankscope and quickscope are better than dlq

[rich arch]

quickscope=scoping animation is completed
blankscope=scoping animation isn‘t finished yet

koshka is the second one

[ocean narwhal]

everyone knows that thanks for the update

koshka has the same hitboxes as dlq but ads time is 2F faster

[rich arch]

if you want to quickscope for the day, tbh use dlq or locus

[ocean narwhal]

= better quickscope

[jovial spruce]

Ya know in-game rank doesn't apply here right ?

[ocean narwhal]

locus is dlq without suppressor or fmj

[keen gazelle]

are you joking…

[rich arch]

i know

[ocean narwhal]

ur logic and argument is flawed

[keen gazelle]

dude idk you but every take you have is dogsh*t

[ocean narwhal]

ong

idiot probably doesnt even look at stats and spits out bullshit

[ocean narwhal]

average yapper

[keen gazelle]

not only is the koshka faster but has the same hitboxes

[rich arch]

Let me remind you last CN championship (CDL) have at least 2 players using locus

[keen gazelle]

people just main dlq cause its an old reliable and people dont accept change

[jovial spruce]

^

[keen gazelle]

ohmyfuckinggod read what i said

[ocean narwhal]

pros use it so it must be the best gun!

[keen gazelle]

people use old guns, cause theyve mained them forever

[jovial spruce]

Nobody said the locus was bad

[ocean narwhal]

he forgot the part where people dont like change

[keen gazelle]

so were gunna use 49 rnd hvk cause a pro used it?

like is he dumb??😭 has to be a troll

[ocean narwhal]

fr

locus IS a worse dlq

u lose suppression or penetration

[keen gazelle]

idk whats your take chlee, im saying koshka is better but people main dlq cause its been there first

[ocean narwhal]

if u remove the stopping power mag well done u have a worse XPR

[keen gazelle]

like i main amax over any gun cause ik how to use it since release

[ocean narwhal]

im talking abt the locus

chinese ppl use it cuz they have better muscle memory with it

cuz they used it for forever

they also put fmj instead of suppressor

but that doesnt matter in comp because they get called out in comms anyway

[jovial spruce]

People get really pissed when you tell em that the koshka is better

[ocean narwhal]

they dont care about the truth

they just yap about their opinions and try to justify it with shit takes

[rich arch]

not saying it is shit but plz, use it like a blankscope sniper rather than quickscope

[ocean narwhal]

it IS a better quickscope sniper than dlq

[keen gazelle]

ITS LITERALLY FASTER THO??😭😭

[ocean narwhal]

EXACTLY

[jovial spruce]

Ehh I'd still prefer to quick scope with the koshka

[keen gazelle]

wdym rather😭😭😭

[rich arch]

if you can’t predict the enemy before it complete scoped then use dlq

[ocean narwhal]

what the fuck is this logic

[keen gazelle]

what the fuck

[jovial spruce]

It's better in general

[rich arch]

i mean don‘t wait until the animation is finished, shot before it is complete

[keen gazelle]

bro what are you talking about

[ocean narwhal]

changing the topic to blankscopes obv

[keen gazelle]

what does that have to do

[keen gazelle]

what does that have to do tho… it still wins no?

[ocean narwhal]

nobody said koshka sucks at blankscoping btw @rich arch

[rich arch]

you should realise there is a laser attachment that mention “increase accuracy during scoping animation“?

[keen gazelle]

it literally has a laser, FOR, blank scoping

[ocean narwhal]

nobody said u cant blankscope with koshka

[keen gazelle]

nobody said that like wtf

[ocean narwhal]

we said koshka is better than dlq at quickscoping

fuck is wrong with u

[keen gazelle]

were saying koshka is a better quickscope

[jovial spruce]

We're talking about quickscoping

[rich arch]

oh….

[tropic bridge]

?

[ocean narwhal]

illiterate or smth

[keen gazelle]

bro just take an L and leave😭😭

[rich arch]

nvm sorry then

[ocean narwhal]

people dont read bruh

[keen gazelle]

youre good bro just read the chat lmfao

[jovial spruce]

the koshka has a better ads time than the dlq

[tropic bridge]

Meta???

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[rich arch]

but why use it when you lose suppression tho aginst dlq

[ocean narwhal]

ar smg lmg which one

[ocean narwhal]

thats locus

[jovial spruce]

what

[rich arch]

i mean dlq has 0 zero penalty suppression

[tropic bridge]

Ar and smg both

[keen gazelle]

they both have suppressors…

[ocean narwhal]

grau hvk ffar
switchblade qq9 fennec cx9 pdw

[keen gazelle]

suppression doesnt have a stat in codm theres no low or high suppression

[ocean narwhal]

so does koshka?

[rich arch]

but light suppressor on dlq don‘t give penalty, while koshka did have some

[tropic bridge]

Pdw fr?????

[keen gazelle]

light?????

[tropic bridge]

Hvk attachments?

[narrow glen]

@tropic bridge, 4 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

koshka still 1 taps to stomach (dlq hitbox) in the second range

[rich arch]

the one that decrease range

[ocean narwhal]

which makes it have infinite range just like dlq

[rich arch]

since dlq does not have range reduction, it is an attachment that always benefit the gun

[keen gazelle]

@ocean narwhal

whats different cause maybe im wrong

[jovial spruce]

man the suppressors have the same penalties

[ocean narwhal]

they are the same

[keen gazelle]

what am i not seeing that koshka is different

[jovial spruce]

What are you talking about

[rich arch]

check the comparation chart in game

[ocean narwhal]

and koshka doesnt suffer from limited 1 tap range like xpr and hdr

the first and second range has identical lethal hitboxes

= infinite 1 tap for non wallbang

[keen gazelle]

ARE YOU STUPID

[ocean narwhal]

.

[keen gazelle]

WHAT IS 75 TIMES 1.6

[ocean narwhal]

last time i checked 75 x 1.6 is more than 100

[keen gazelle]

ITS STILL 120😭😭

[rich arch]

you fool look at the table you sent

[ocean narwhal]

ur the fool here sir

[keen gazelle]

THAT 75 DOESNT MEAN HITMARKER

YOU MULTIPLY IT BY 1.6!!!

[ocean narwhal]

bro doesnt understand multipliers

[rich arch]

i mean dlq only have 1 set of range

[keen gazelle]

THAT DOWSNT MATTER

[ocean narwhal]

i fucking explained that part

[keen gazelle]

dude what are you confused about

[ocean narwhal]

u literally dont read

[keen gazelle]

is it the 75? is it the two ranges??

[ocean narwhal]

he is either dumb as fuck or illiterate bro

[keen gazelle]

no no lets explain it

@rich arch what dont you understand

[jovial spruce]

Damm what did I start

[ocean narwhal]

a war

[ocean narwhal]

ok lets be nice people

[keen gazelle]

dies

[rich arch]

the range of dlq shows 90 damage at 150m, and there are no second range (unless koshka)

[ocean narwhal]

[jovial spruce]

I mean what are you guys argumenting about

[tropic bridge]

Any Asia players?

[keen gazelle]

okay so the second range on the koshka is your confusion?

[jovial spruce]

The koshka is better than the dlq period

[ocean narwhal]

for quick/blankscope yes

[rich arch]

the second range of dlq is my confusion, because the chart litterally shows dlq have only 1 range

[keen gazelle]

@rich arch let me walk you thru the bar

the dlq doesnt have two bars because thats the way the gun is

[ocean narwhal]

1 to 1 online coaching

[keen gazelle]

simple as that, it. just. is.

the koshka has two because it just is. dont look into why theres 1 or two bars

look at the numbers only and the multiplyers only

what’re you confused on

[rich arch]

yes that‘s why i said dlq don’t suffers from penalty of light suppressor, where you got the benefits of suppressor without range drop because it don‘t even have it

[keen gazelle]

okay it doesnt, why does that make it better than the koshka

[rich arch]

from that way koshka lost upside because it will suffer range drop if using same stuff like dlq
or you can suffer a little bit ads penalty for tatical suppressor

[keen gazelle]

your “loss” isnt rlly a loss

youre looking at it very wrong

even tho koshka “loses” range, it dowsnt matter because its soo strong that it still 1 shots

soo lemme hear your side now

i will put this here incase you need to go back to it

[rich arch]

you mean it is always 1 stk at any range as long as i hit the shot at any range since the drop don‘t do anything?

even for dlq but dlq has shitter ads time?

[ocean narwhal]

as long as u hit stomach and above

[keen gazelle]

yes… idk you worded it weird soo idk if were on the same page

you see the dummy at the bottom left? do you get how that works

or do you not

[rich arch]

nvm i overstimate the range too much

[keen gazelle]

soo you get it now

if you do
i hope you can see why we say koshka is better lol, people just use the dlq cause its been their first and change is hard

[young shale]

Im using xpr rn

I alr mastered koshka

[ocean narwhal]

no.1 gun to be called a spammer when used in 1v1s

[young shale]

I apologise in advance

[ocean narwhal]

no need to

i use it in 1v1s all day

fmj for wallbang spams✅

[keen gazelle]

i have trauma

[ocean narwhal]

LOL

[young shale]

😭

[keen gazelle]

“use a real sniper”

[ocean narwhal]

"dlq or locus only"

[young shale]

Xpr gae spammer

“Xpr only for spammers”

[ocean narwhal]

picks up my xpr

[young shale]

💀

[ocean narwhal]

misses the whole mag and dies

[young shale]

“Your sniper sucks ass”

[ocean narwhal]

noob1823 left the game

[young shale]

Avg xpr experience

[rich arch]

This is actually really good for BR

[young shale]

Yeah but who uses kilo in br tho

[ocean narwhal]

balls mag

[young shale]

🤨

[strong monolith]

Build is decent
The gun itself not so much

[narrow glen]

@signal meadow, 1 Server Rank

[vale lichen]

@rich arch need oden br build

[strong monolith]

Colossus supp
Marksman
Optic
Steady stock
35r mag
Mods: Long range, Ext mag, Precise

[split sierra]

Qxr loadout pls

Mp

[upper osprey]

Wait

Do u want enhanced bolt @split sierra

[split sierra]

Huh?

[narrow glen]

@split sierra, 8 Server Rank

[upper osprey]

I mean the skills which makes qxr shoots faster

[split sierra]

It’s a smh right

Smh

Smg

[upper osprey]

This one

U wanna use it on qxr or not

[split sierra]

Just the best mp loadout

[upper osprey]

Idk if this suits u

[split sierra]

U got a no recoil one?

[upper osprey]

Erm no recoil... Me try

[split sierra]

Ok thanks

[upper osprey]

Quite heavy lmao

[split sierra]

Nice thanks

Slight recoil but not as bad

[upper osprey]

Ok

[narrow glen]

@upper osprey, 17 Server Rank

[tawny walrus]

I’m sick of mureki always trying to give a “better” build.

Going to downvote all of them.

[rich arch]

What

[ruby iris]

Lol

[strong monolith]

Bro the typa whippersnapper to say "I fixed your art"

[rich arch]

I realize every gun build has no scope damm

[rich arch]

Most dont need one

[rich arch]

Just use a mono on smgs

[rich arch]

My aim sucks so bad I need a scope

The penalty is barely more than tac suppressors, not enough to ever notice, but it grants extra range which is important on an smg

[rich arch]

Pro tip is to practice without scopes more then

Some guns are hopeless like the krig but a lot are fine without a scope

[rich arch]

I do well mostly with marksman

[foggy magnet]

Posted a build in gunsmithing check it out

[rich arch]

Oh if its marksmans then red dots are great

I dont use autos

I only stick with dmrs and markmen or sniper

[rich arch]

Yeah might switch some out for a red dot for kilo

[rich arch]

Yeah thats fine then

If its ars and smgs and lmgs then red dots are often a waste

[rich arch]

Might try it out

I'm taking a break from sketching so might as well play a bit of cod

Kilo is pretty good post buff so go for it

[rich arch]

Oh nice good luck

Ye already got the weapon at plat

Noice

[devout wind]

It was grandmaster V level ranked match

[vale lichen]

Yes

Its bot lobby

[rich arch]

I haven't gotten bots since I reach grand master

[unreal gale]

Well I get bots at legendary, so my condolences

[rich arch]

But now im.getting more.bad teammates 😭😭 how did they reach grand master

[vale lichen]

U need to loss x matches for bot lobbies

[vale lichen]

Lol real players preforming bader than bots🤣

[rich arch]

I haven't gotten much xp from real and bot lobbies

If I win or lose I rank up slow as hell

[vale lichen]

After GM you will get 50+ for mvp

35+ for 2,3

[rich arch]

No wonder I rank up slow

[vale lichen]

25 for last

[unreal gale]

No, like actual bot lobbies

[vale lichen]

*Approx

[vale lichen]

How though?👀👀

[unreal gale]

The higher you are in legendary, the less points you get when you win

[vale lichen]

I still get 50+ points every game

First game stuff=easy 85+

[rich arch]

That so low 😭

[vale lichen]

Not low

[rich arch]

I dont think.i can get to legendary in 3 days lol

[unreal gale]

What are you at

[vale lichen]

Leggy👀

[vale lichen]

Maybe try

[unreal gale]

Wait obviously

How many points

[vale lichen]

8700

[rich arch]

Maybe I pratice with kilo more

[livid umbra]

anyone a good build for em2

Thanks

[maiden ocean]

Agency supp
Ranger barrel
Light stock
Extended mag
Sturdy grip tape

[livid umbra]

so what does it exactly do

[maiden ocean]

Kills enemy

Anyways, it's a fast paced build that is good for all the ranges with low recoil which is pretty easy to control

[livid umbra]

NO WAY😮

[livid umbra]

Is the em2 a very good AR or like average

[ruby iris]

Average

[lean frost]

do u think the msmc is good

[ruby iris]

Decent, but still not better than fennec

Or cx9

[lean frost]

would u consider fennec or cx-9 better

[ruby iris]

Cx9

[narrow glen]

@ruby iris, 82 Server Rank

[tired grove]

Don’t spam

[autumn gust]

Oh my bad

[narrow glen]

@autumn gust, 7 Server Rank

[autumn gust]

I was just sending all 10 of my loadouts

Besides, there is more talking than building

[tired grove]

All of your builds are worst

[autumn gust]

And what makes you say that

[tired grove]

[autumn gust]

-_-

[plush cape]

Bro because they are shit it need no reason

[tired grove]

True

[plush cape]

And atleast someone remembered that svd existed

[rich arch]

Svd build need a smaller scope, compenastor is not required but a sliencer is preferred
Other builds are striaght to garbage

It seems you lack of the understanding to stats mechanics in game tho

[rich arch]

It is still a strong weaponary considering having large 1 stk hitbox then most semi auto snipers, it just won’t have lower torso 1 stk at close range now

[autumn gust]

The SVD doesn't miss

you just gotta have the proper aim

[rich arch]

Hello

[jovial spruce]

Wth is this ????

[rich arch]

Finally someone that gives a good build

[jovial spruce]

What kind of psycho uses a scope on a Mac10???

[rich arch]

The best 🔥

[autumn gust]

Because I prefer ironsights that are round, and they don't block your view

[jovial spruce]

I get where you coming from

I don't think the Mac10 requires any aim

You just spray and pray

[autumn gust]

Yeah like, I prefer the ironsights to be like, the M4LMG, M13, Kilo-41, etc. But I dont mind the ones that the DR-H and the CBR-4 have

Anything like the Krig 6, MAC10, and the ICR-1 are not my favorite

[upper osprey]

Why

Icr's ironsight is great

[autumn gust]

the ironsight is literally just the shape of a W (almost)

[upper osprey]

I think it's ok

But i hate kilo's ironsight lmao

[rich arch]

I've got a question about Oden in MP.
I use this build. It's slightly different than path's recommendation. Is it good?
I'm using Tac sup for less ads penalty punishment instead of colossus. I also put Granulated instead of Rubberized since the recoil isn't an issue on Oden, and also Tac Laser for the ads spread and ads time cons. Finally, "YKM Combat" since it gives -12ads time speed. The recoil punishment still isn't an issue however; I wanted to ask if the +8ds spread penalty is a problem (that's why I used granulated and tac laser to compensate).

[upper osprey]

K6 too

[autumn gust]

It's literally not any different from the M13

[ruby iris]

You would actually want more spread on oden iirc

[upper osprey]

M13 is fine to me but i don't know why i don't like kilo's

[rich arch]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

Since shotguns

[strong monolith]

Valid for a more aggressive build
The BSA shouldn't be too bad since it already has great BSA and Oden Duplex actually somewhat benefits from worse BSA

[ruby iris]

I'd run mono tbh

And short barrel over combat stock

[rich arch]

Great 🔥

[ruby iris]

Since flinch

[rich arch]

Thanks

[upper osprey]

Mine was even stranger

[ruby iris]

And gran to rubberized cuz why not

[upper osprey]

No need rubberised

Oden is easy to control

With sync to ads lmao

[autumn gust]

Oh I just recently got the Pink Neko skin for the Oden

I love it

But I really hope to get the LK24 legendary anime skin and the SPR legendary anime skin

[upper osprey]

I regret paying mythic for oden

The bp one is already good enough

I should save the money and pay for ffar

Ffar is on fire

I luv that skin

Anything needs to be fixed
I don't like suppressor on it

[rich arch]

I forgot to mention/add that since the ads speed buff I use Steady instead of Combat stock.

[rich arch]

One of my favorite mythics. Beautiful weapon design, upgrades, kill effects and soundtracks

Unfortunately not many ppl use this gun on any mode

[upper osprey]

Damnnn the bgm of it

Is literally a masterpiece

[rich arch]

A weapon like this deserves a meta buff

[upper osprey]

Also the perspection

Beautiful

[rich arch]

Yeah

[upper osprey]

Xd

[rich arch]

Will it ever come back?

[upper osprey]

I think it will broke the balance

[upper osprey]

Of cuz yes but maybe need to wait for a long time

Since it have been reduxed a few months ago

Meanwhile mythic holger:hello mothe fxxker

[rich arch]

[viscid belfry]

stock to agency supp

[rich arch]

Does anyone know when the Mythic Switchblade will be available until?

[upper osprey]

I don't want supp on it xd

I use suppressor on all gun except em2

And locus

[rich arch]

??

[viscid belfry]

yy

[upper osprey]

Idk

I luv it's sound without supp xd

[upper osprey]

Erm maybe a month?

[rich arch]

Does it remain even after updating the season?

[upper osprey]

Yes

X9's mythic is also great i think

Although it's original is already good

[nova bay]

What’s the best sniper for 1v1s?

[upper osprey]

Erm

Dlq locus

Outlaw on shipment

Koshka and zrg are great too but they have less ammos

[ocean narwhal]

outlaw is trash in any map

[upper osprey]

No

It is quite good after the buff

[tired grove]

Yeah

[upper osprey]

But requires high skill

I am not the one able to use it

[tired grove]

Too much hitmarkers

[upper osprey]

Lmao

And small bullet point i think

[tired grove]

I guess

[upper osprey]

Guess wut

[jovial spruce]

Zrg is mid

[upper osprey]

Yeah

[ocean narwhal]

zrg is good

[jovial spruce]

Koshka better

[upper osprey]

The only problem is the mag size

[ocean narwhal]

different purpose

zrg for leg 1 taps and hardscopes

[jovial spruce]

Ehh I'd say In general like in a 1v1 situation

[ocean narwhal]

koshka for quickscope

[ocean narwhal]

if u have skill to be consistent with outlaw just use xpr and u will pop off

[tired grove]

ZRG and HDR for no hitmarkers

[jovial spruce]

Ah the Hdr I forgot that thing even existed

[tired grove]

Wth

[ocean narwhal]

just dont use the troll snipers

arctic na m21 outlaw

[jovial spruce]

Na 45 gooooo brrrr

[rigid swan]

hdr hitmarkers at a certain distance

[upper osprey]

Lmao i forgot it

[ocean narwhal]

before someone says outlaw is fast

xpr is faster and shoots faster

[jovial spruce]

^

[vale lichen]

Umm BR or MP?

[ocean narwhal]

even with mono

[tired grove]

;-;

[ocean narwhal]

doesnt matter xpr is faster

[upper osprey]

Both

[vale lichen]

Semi automatic sniper rifle

[ocean narwhal]

outlaw is useless in both modes anyway

[jovial spruce]

The outlaw is bad in both modes

[upper osprey]

Erm i prefer locus and dlq

[vale lichen]

Ppl use outlaw?

[upper osprey]

Koshka and zrg are great but i don't have another backpack for them

[ocean narwhal]

just dont use these and u will be fine

[upper osprey]

[jovial spruce]

The only reason people don't use the koshka is that the model and animation suck

[upper osprey]

Na used to rule the world but now...

[jovial spruce]

I don't have the model downloaded so it just looks like a dlq to me

[ocean narwhal]

gay ass meta

[upper osprey]

Yes

[jovial spruce]

The dark ages

[vale lichen]

there was a time koshka epic skin had a custom inspection

[ocean narwhal]

it was dogshit people heaven

[upper osprey]

Fr

[ocean narwhal]

snd was just unplayable

[upper osprey]

And now fk up by lmgs

[ocean narwhal]

akimbo fennec meta is on par with na meta

skill left the chat

[upper osprey]

Lmao

[ocean narwhal]

korean pro teams spammed it in garena ranked

and still lost to my full stack

dogshit team ngl

[jovial spruce]

Smg ruin everything

[ocean narwhal]

T1 recruited them lmfao

and lost to a t2 comp team

that was so long ago

[upper osprey]

No

There's quite a lot of method to kill smg abusers

[ocean narwhal]

just dont fight them in close quarters when u have a slow ass gun

[upper osprey]

Ya

[jovial spruce]

Some smgs have insane ranges

[narrow glen]

@jovial spruce, 23 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

it usually doesnt go over 25m

30 at most

[teal wing]

Yall got any hvk builds, I suck at it

[keen gazelle]

sx9

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• Light barrel
• Tactical laser
• Large caliber
• Granulated grip

[teal wing]

Yipee

Thank you

[tawny walrus]

You’re welcome.

[pale willow]

yo
what do you guys think the meta's gonna be next season

[visual bloom]

ak is gonna be an alternative to hvk

so ak might be meta

[pale willow]

lets goo

[tawny isle]

not rlly

hvk can 2 shot to the head as well

and has a faster fire rate

[vernal badger]

What are the best guns to use in this season ?

[tawny isle]

hvk, sx9, qq9, grau, kilo

[rich arch]

Try markmen

[tawny isle]

sks only

[fringe agate]

Chat what’s the best smg build

[jovial spruce]

Cx 9 is pretty good

[fringe agate]

Is Rus good

I got it to diamond

[jovial spruce]

Ehhh it's decent I'd say

Ask chlee

[fringe agate]

@ocean narwhal

[ocean narwhal]

not bad not meta

its a worse cbr

[fringe agate]

What’s a rll good one

I’m not trynna waste time

[jovial spruce]

I think cx9 is pretty decent after the buff

[tawny isle]

qq9

[fringe agate]

Goddamn

[jovial spruce]

Is the pdw actually good ?

[ocean narwhal]

tac supp better

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[jovial spruce]

I'll try it

[fringe agate]

Idk which one to pick

[tawny isle]

i guess, since there is heavy barrel already

[jovial spruce]

What about cordite ?

[ocean narwhal]

aggro - cx9
flex - pdw
somewhere between aggro and flex - sx9

[tawny isle]

not good nor bad

[ocean narwhal]

decent

[tawny isle]

bizon is better alternative

[fringe agate]

What do those even mean

[ocean narwhal]

use toughness with cordite though

[unique schooner]

Brain rott

[fringe agate]

Like aggro and stuff

[tawny isle]

yes because aint. nobody dealing with a 1.5 hit flinch

[ocean narwhal]

aggro = aggressive, usually fights within 15m
flex = can handle both close and mid range fights up to 25-30m

[fringe agate]

Wym by aggressive

Like close up

[tawny isle]

sx9 is actually mostly aggro gun

[tawny isle]

yes, cqc

[ocean narwhal]

rush into the enemies' spawns to spawntrap them

[tawny isle]

i would say qq9 is the best flex smg

[fringe agate]

I want a a flex

[ocean narwhal]

the opposite would be holding a headglitch and waiting for the enemies to come to you

[ocean narwhal]

pdw would be good

[fringe agate]

So qq9?

[tawny isle]

yes

[fringe agate]

Ok

[tawny isle]

or pdw

[ocean narwhal]

for ARs ffar and grau are good

[fringe agate]

I can’t choose😭

[tawny isle]

try both

see which one fits your playstyle the best

[fringe agate]

Which are they again

[tawny isle]

pdw and qq9

[fringe agate]

Ok

[digital bluff]

isn't pdw meta?

[ocean narwhal]

yeah it is

[tawny isle]

pretty much

[fringe agate]

What is meta

[tawny isle]

list of the best guns rn

[fringe agate]

Sorry I’m kind of new

[tawny isle]

alg

[ocean narwhal]

most effective tactics available

= best guns

[fringe agate]

Alright

I can’t find pdw

[ocean narwhal]

first few in smg in think

third or fourth one

[cyan bough]

MP anyone?

[fringe agate]

Bruh I can’t send images

Gay ngl

[fringe agate]

Me what rank?

[cyan bough]

Normal

[fringe agate]

Normal?

[ocean narwhal]

#┃server-media-passes

[fringe agate]

Like what’s your rank

[cyan bough]

Pain mp

Bronze

[ocean narwhal]

rookie?

[cyan bough]

Yep just wanted to play with someone

[fringe agate]

It’s easy to rank up at that rank

[cyan bough]

It is but my phone cooks like a microwave easy

[narrow glen]

@cyan bough, 6 Server Rank

[cyan bough]

So is anyone interested in playing normal MP?

[fringe agate]

@ocean narwhal is no where to be found

[ocean narwhal]

?

[fringe agate]

Pdw

[ocean narwhal]

its under smg

third one

[cyan bough]

What rank are y’all?

[fringe agate]

Bruh I thought it said pow

[narrow glen]

@fringe agate, 10 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

[ocean narwhal]

.

[fringe agate]

For me it was the second last one

How do I get cool Camos I can’t find any

[ocean narwhal]

press the button with pen and settings icon

[jovial spruce]

Legendary

[ocean narwhal]

then camo

[fringe agate]

I don’t see it

Which side of the screen

[fringe agate]

Oh

Yea Ik that

[ocean narwhal]

then top left

[real storm]

Any good NA45 build to grind diamond?

[fringe agate]

I’m saying how do I gain cool ones

[ocean narwhal]

for gold u need to unlock all non-completionist camos

like sand reptile etc

[fringe agate]

Ik

[ocean narwhal]

u can see the stuff u need to complete under each camo

[fringe agate]

I know

[ocean narwhal]

which one are u asking tho

[fringe agate]

Like the cool ones like the ones u have

[ocean narwhal]

oh blueprints

buy them with money

[fringe agate]

Yea but I don’t see them in the store

I wanna get cp but I don’t see any good things to buy

[ocean narwhal]

this one is in store

top left in main screen

[fringe agate]

Bro why pdw so weird looking

[ocean narwhal]

fuschian nights mythic drop

[fringe agate]

I bet it has no blueprints

[ocean narwhal]

it does

but i dont like any of them tbh

[unique schooner]

Mmmm

Royal crimson

[ocean narwhal]

shit iron sights

[fringe agate]

I don’t like pdw

Give me another with good blueprints

[ocean narwhal]

this

[fringe agate]

That’s a good smg too?

[fringe agate]

I can’t find that blueprint

[ocean narwhal]

u need to buy it if u want

its like 16k cp i think

the base gun is good tho

[fringe agate]

Bro what

That’s over 100$

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

legendary and mythic blueprints are expensive

[fringe agate]

I’m not that rich

Your a little bit too rich

[ocean narwhal]

nah i just sold my kidney

[fringe agate]

Bro the shop is broke

Nothing good in there I don’t even wanna buy the cp now

[ocean narwhal]

the good stuff are in the draws

[fringe agate]

Draws?

[ocean narwhal]

main screen top left

below ur profile icon

@fringe agate yeah that

i saw it before it got deleted

[fringe agate]

😭

[ocean narwhal]

[fringe agate]

I was hoping you saw it

Is 25$ of cp gonna get me something

[ocean narwhal]

if ur lucky u can get the nail gun legendary or outlaw legendary

[narrow glen]

@ocean narwhal, 33 Server Rank

[ocean narwhal]

1% chance ish i think

[fringe agate]

Where

[ocean narwhal]

pyramid's tomb draw

[ocean narwhal]

but both guns are ass

[fringe agate]

💀

[ocean narwhal]

the best one is the

aquatic fusion draw

also 1% ish but the gun is good

dobvra legendary

@fringe agate id say maybe buy like 440cp if ur gonna keep playing this game

[fringe agate]

Krig 6?

[ocean narwhal]

thats 4%

[fringe agate]

I could just buy it and save it

[ocean narwhal]

u can see the odds at top left

question mark thing

[ocean narwhal]

yeah

[plush tree]

The manta draw is very overrated. I only like the avatar tbh

[river pawn]

Totally agreeable

[fringe agate]

The ghost draw looks cool

[ocean narwhal]

for 1 spin thats the best thing ngl

[river pawn]

Also, hello Frost! How's your evening going?

[ocean narwhal]

which one is that

[fringe agate]

Dominion mythic

[ocean narwhal]

idk just save 400cp and do whatever u want with the rest

[plush tree]

Great! Had some rest and now gonna do some preps for tomorrow. Hbu?

[ocean narwhal]

u got 1 spin on any draw

[fringe agate]

Alright

[ocean narwhal]

with the 400cp u can buy a battle pass next season

[river pawn]

Great to hear that. I had a decent day as well

[fringe agate]

Isn’t it 1k?

[tawny isle]

is that in asia region?

[fringe agate]

1280 cp

[ocean narwhal]

no the cheaper one is 400

[tawny isle]

bc mine is 560

[fringe agate]

What is the difference

[tawny isle]

for me the cheaper one is 560

[remote silo]

The free leggy gonna be drh real?