codm-gunsmith-help

[keen gazelle]

itll come back soon next season

[eternal idol]

Ah ok.

Was fun nuking there.

I hate ground breach.

Laggy af and is lame

[bright dragon]

Is the anyway to get the original grau iron sights on the season five version?

[tawdry vault]

The og irons on Inevitable are already on there

[bright dragon]

The iron sights on the season 5 and just the regular one are different

I’ll get in a match and show you

[tawdry vault]

No

On base archangel barrel, its different

On the inevitable archangel barrel, its og.

[bright dragon]

See

[bright dragon]

I want it to look like the pic on the right just the iron sights everything else about the season 5 gun I like

[tawdry vault]

What did I just tell you?

[ocean narwhal]

its simple really

default look is on

[ocean narwhal]

u cant change the irons on the ranked reward skin

[tawdry vault]

I. Fucking. Know

[ocean narwhal]

sounded like u didnt

[tawdry vault]

Im trying to TELL him, that the irons are the og irons, not the archangel ones the barrel has

[bright dragon]

Ah this makes sense then you can’t change iron sights on event skin. I haven’t played in 2 years and this is my first time getting this in ranked

[ocean narwhal]

just tell him about the default look

see? he gets it

[tawdry vault]

I DID

[bright dragon]

Do all purple and up weapons have different iron sights then the defaults typically?

[ocean narwhal]

no, some skins have "default look" turned on by default

[tawdry vault]

No one listens to me beyond my tips and advice dont matter

[ocean narwhal]

u cant change the cosmetics of the skin if default look is on

since barrel is part of the cosmetics and the irons are tied to barrels

u cant change the irons

[bright dragon]

Thank you for letting me know I’ll see what other guns I can possibly change

[narrow glen]

@bright dragon, 10 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

there's a zoom on the tac scope though

also, how do you see with sync to fov lol

I literally just aim somewhere in their direction and just shoot

literally relying on auto aim to carry my shots

I have no idea where I'm shooting because it's like half a pixel wide

what fov do you use?

[keen gazelle]

sync to fov always >>>

[unreal gale]

like it works

but literally feel like I'm memeing

[keen gazelle]

its soo smooth

i like it

[cunning rapids]

@unreal gale I needa oden build

[keen gazelle]

try it on snipers instead of ar’s

[narrow glen]

@keen gazelle, 67 Server Rank

[unreal gale]

I dont' snipe though

but I tried it before on snipers, super good

[unreal gale]

I don't use oden :D

[unreal gale]

what fov do you play on?

I might play on bloody 50. I literally can't see anything

[keen gazelle]

60

even before sync was a thing i always did 60

[tawny walrus]

I can give Oden build.

[tawdry vault]

Thoughts?

[bright dragon]

Did I accidentally remove and attachment or did it only come with 4 on it? If so is the monolithic suppressor the 5th attachment to add?

[tawdry vault]

It only comes with forth, and I would go with mono yeah

[bright dragon]

Ok thank you!

[tawdry vault]

Yeah

Legendary(gold) and mythics(red) are the blueprints that come with a full gunsmith, epics(purple) come with four

[bright dragon]

Thank you for letting me know! I’ll probably never get a legendary or mythic and if it’s just a skin you get idk if it would be worth the money. Now if it made the gun stats go up then I would

[peak brook]

A few have 5 as standard

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, leggys and mythics

[austere igloo]

[unreal gale]

tactical suppressor

[vale lichen]

Use owc and change the stock to strike lite 3

I don't think grau need mono tac is the best option

[austere igloo]

💀 💀

[vale lichen]

Which server is it

[proper garden]

what is the best sniper ever HDR or locus

[vale lichen]

I only MP mostly so Locus

[proper garden]

oke

[narrow glen]

@proper garden, 1 Server Rank

[proper garden]

why

HDR more taking damage

it's sames like rytec amr

[hazy elk]

guys any grau builds?

[rich arch]

In BR you need the highest damage numbers, but in MP you need the sniper that has the best hitboxes at the best ads speed stats

DLQ, Locus, (Koshka maybe)
And Outlaw if you're really good at aiming

In BR: HDR, DLQ, XPR50, (Rytec maybe)

Wait I need help I changed up my m13 build and took off the foregrip, and put a no stock and mini barrel on it but I don’t need a laser and I don’t need an optic

What do I put

MP or BR?

Mp

Also what level does ur mythic have to be to share

Silencer, Granulated, Mag B
Tac Laser (but you said you don't want it)
And about the Stock is a personal choice.
I used to rock No Stock but I don't like the recoil and flinch punishment

You were using a ranger foregrip btw

I normally use rtf combat stock

[rich arch]

Ok

Yeah someone else also suggested that

What about Assault stock?

I think it was Brian

[rich arch]

Compromises on ads

[rich arch]

Correct

[rich arch]

Ads Speed or ads Movement?

[austere igloo]

Capo's

[rich arch]

I don't know why most ppl use no stock , that recoil punishment ruins it for me

[austere igloo]

because mobility

[rich arch]

Yeah

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

Probably they won't go for longer ranges fights

[austere igloo]

besides, recoil punishment isn't even that great

not if you can handle it

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

take a look qq9

[rich arch]

Now that you mentioned qq9...

[austere igloo]

why?

[rich arch]

I was playing with a random guy BR yesterday, and he had the qq9 mythic. So he picked it and then put it down. And then I went and I picked it up.

The thing had 0 recoil....

Without attachments, without mods

While any other qq9 never felt the same

Something about the mythic qq9, feels different. Like it has no recoil..

[rich arch]

Movement

[vale lichen]

I think double mag 40 worth it on MP build

[vale lichen]

Not kidding same in MP feels easier to control even its the same build i use

[rich arch]

Yeah @vale lichen that's correct

You see , I'm not the only one saying this

[vale lichen]

Maybe its our mind set? Mythic works better??

[rich arch]

Or maybe it's actually pay to win

[vale lichen]

Lol

We won't know😂

[rich arch]

And that specific mythic skin has intentionally different kick

[austere igloo]

qq9 mythic has kick

but the normal one doesn't

[rich arch]

But less punishing when is mythic?

[vale lichen]

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

not really

[rich arch]

Listen... I'm not saying CODM is pay to win. But that specific mythic skin, feels pay to win

Because I have the legendary qq9 and it has different recoil

With the same attachments

[vale lichen]

Same i feel the same way

[rich arch]

......

[austere igloo]

I don't like it

the way the qq9 mythic handles doesn't mesh with my playstyle

[rich arch]

!!!!

[austere igloo]

the epic ones feel smoother

no kick

[rich arch]

Frfr

[austere igloo]

@rich arch yes they are

m13 morningstar isn't the mightiest mythic

[rich arch]

Almightiest

[austere igloo]

just because most people voted for it doesn't make it so

[austere igloo]

It's not a measurement of almighty-ness

the people at codm are just as deluded as the mfs who voted for it

[rich arch]

I voted for it

[austere igloo]

you are deluded

if you think m13 morningstar is the best out of all the mythics

because it isn't

[rich arch]

It’s my favourite gun

[austere igloo]

having that gun as your favorite doesn't automatically translate to it being the best of the best

[rich arch]

Therefore my personal favourite mythic

But just because you don’t like the gun doesn’t automatically make it bad

[austere igloo]

your personal favorite doesn't means it's everyone's favorite (the votes don't mean shit)

[rich arch]

It’s something like this

But with cp

[rich arch]

Sure

I also like m13 , I think it's one of the best mythics

Thank you ghost

@austere igloo what weapon do you use the most

Something I would add though..
Tracers, and a pulling out sound like some other mythics have

[vale lichen]

Just because you like something it doesn't make it mightiest too

They brought it back for 1000th time now

Rerun over rerun

Still haven't fixed kill broadcast for maxxed version

[austere igloo]

Drh

[vale lichen]

Its overrated af

[austere igloo]

Oh & gks

[vale lichen]

Krig one has to the best one because of black ops

[austere igloo]

I use krig too

But not as often as drh

[vale lichen]

Drh is extremely passive

[vale lichen]

Btw still angry with you for using foregrip on mp build

[austere igloo]

Unlike LK, drh can be built for aggro

[vale lichen]

Doesn't like the agro build for drh

[austere igloo]

Huh?

[vale lichen]

I mean there are better alt for agro guns

[austere igloo]

Fair enough

[pale ferry]

When will the Nail Gun issue be resolved?

[unreal gale]

Are you that serious about getting gold on it?

[slim sable]

Any feedback for this build?

What can be replaced / better

[austere igloo]

Wouldn’t ext barrel + mono be better than ykm integ supp?

[ruby wind]

Integral suppressor

[austere igloo]

& laser? really?

[ruby wind]

Does ak117 need bullet spread attachments?

[austere igloo]

More like recoil attachments

[ruby wind]

Yeah

[austere igloo]

Bcoz it’s random

[ruby wind]

Mid range and recoil attachments should be good right?

[austere igloo]

But having bsa attachments ain’t bad either

[austere igloo]

Mhmm

[ruby wind]

How about
No stock, mono, ext mag, rubbergrip and maybe extended barrel?

[austere igloo]

Better off running sleight of hand than rubberized, rubberized isn’t gonna help

Unless you’re running fennec

[ruby wind]

Ah okay

Also wtf is hypnosis br class and then ballistic knife melee

[slim sable]

Yes

But with what should I replace that?

[ruby wind]

Laser

[austere igloo]

Ballastic knife is a classic

From BO2

[glass tundra]

What AR do I use I’m hella bored

[unreal gale]

try grau

ngl, grau might actually be rank 1

for ranked

[copper jacinth]

Best gunsmith for AK117 gor ranked? Not playinh agressive with it and it needs to have fmj

[ocean narwhal]

tac supp
marksman
48r
gran
fmj

[slim sable]

My favourite weapon since came out but I stopped using it 🤷‍♂️

Got bored of it

[rich arch]

I hate that gun

I refuse to use it lol

[austere igloo]

You hate ak117?

Or Grau?

[toxic coral]

is there a way I can post images?

I need some suggestions

[austere igloo]

Get the gunsmith pass

Here

& you can post images in #codm-gallery

[toxic coral]

thank u

[austere igloo]

But gallery is images specifically

You can’t reply with text only in that channel

[toxic coral]

okay

would have the best build for this gun?

would anyone have a buid for this?

[austere igloo]

No

[austere igloo]

Yes I do

[toxic coral]

I'm only level 17 on it bc I just return back to cod

[austere igloo]

Ahh, so you’re a returning player

[toxic coral]

yh

[austere igloo]

Here’s the optimal build for qq9

[toxic coral]

thank u

[austere igloo]

Alternatively, you could use this

Though this is more for search and destroy

[toxic coral]

i will just focus on leveling up my gun rn

[austere igloo]

Reminder that the attachments on the qq9 I gave you need the gun to be maxed

[toxic coral]

what level would that be

[austere igloo]

Don’t you have xp cards?

[toxic coral]

I think I have many

[austere igloo]

No clue lol

[austere igloo]

That’s little

Check out mine

Look at my purple xp card

[next hearth]

💀💀💀

[toxic coral]

Well i just returned back so 🤷‍♂️

[narrow glen]

@toxic coral, 6 Server Rank

[toxic coral]

and what should I pick from this

I have zero clue

[next hearth]

I like the shadow blade a lot but depends on what modes you playing mostly

[toxic coral]

Multi player

[next hearth]

(Better to ask a pro though lol)

[next hearth]

In multiplayer which mode

Take the doggo for no skill passive support otherwise

[toxic coral]

all I guess?

[austere igloo]

Understandable

[austere igloo]

[toxic coral]

and sometimes dome or chaos control

[austere igloo]

Kinetic armor is good

[toxic coral]

what mode would I use that for?

[next hearth]

👀

[little bison]

which weapons do i use? (i use no lasers since i tend to keep ads'ing always it gives me a disadvantage)

[austere igloo]

For meta, switchblade
For style, pdw

I personally am a big fan of pdw, but stat wise, switchblade takes the cake

[little bison]

claw , reactor (for removing the opps in the hardpoint), dog, kinetic armour

[austere igloo]

I did recommend him kinetic armor

& dog? really?

[toxic coral]

and I got that

how would I equip it thi

[little bison]

if you need a quick distraction for your opp

[austere igloo]

Got what? The dog?

[terse cobalt]

for style ??

[austere igloo]

You don’t get it do ya?

[toxic coral]

the armor

[austere igloo]

Oh

That works too

[little bison]

for style? imo the pdw is not really for style

[toxic coral]

how would I use it?

[austere igloo]

Operator skill

[toxic coral]

okay

[little bison]

in MP

[austere igloo]

Choose from here

[toxic coral]

ohhh

okayyu

[terse cobalt]

well if i get it would i question it?

[little bison]

pdw is a laser

[austere igloo]

Under here @toxic coral

[austere igloo]

Pdw is for the pros

Switchblade is for the “ranked warriors”

[terse cobalt]

[toxic coral]

👍

[austere igloo]

If you’re skilled enough to not rely on meta, then pdw is for you

Otherwise, stick to switchblade

[terse cobalt]

pdw was buffed... not meta but it's not like it was always a good gun

[austere igloo]

Yes it was

[little bison]

then nerfed...

[austere igloo]

Back in 2019-2020 pdw was the shit

[little bison]

its recoil was reverted but its still coated!

[austere igloo]

Along with msmc

[terse cobalt]

cuz why not

[little bison]

msmc used to be the fennec fr

[austere igloo]

& that was before the gunsmith

[austere igloo]

It was like the fennec & mac combined

[terse cobalt]

but it's days were gone b4 now

[austere igloo]

But the point is that pdw was…or should I say is a decent gun

[little bison]

i dislike the ironsights of royal crim

[terse cobalt]

yes, that's the word, decent

[austere igloo]

Of course pdw can’t live up to the likes of other new smgs but it’s good in its own right

[austere igloo]

Why?

Royal crim pdw irons are good

[little bison]

feels like it covers more of the screen than the base

[austere igloo]

Bruh I’m literally running it rn

[vale lichen]

Hardpoint or dom loadout?

[austere igloo]

Tdm

[vale lichen]

💀💀

[terse cobalt]

[austere igloo]

Nah but I do use that for hardpt

[terse cobalt]

a cluster strike on tdm huh...

[austere igloo]

Fun fact: I switched to pdw just bcoz I needed to clear the seasonal obj of shooting 2000 rounds from an smg

[austere igloo]

I was joking

💀

[terse cobalt]

yea that was the point

[austere igloo]

Why else did u think I put that in strikethru lel

[little bison]

or just use the qq9 its somewhat on par with the switch

[austere igloo]

fuck the qq9 I’m just gonna stick with my new fav smg gks

[little bison]

gks is just a ar... but smg..

[shrewd elbow]

Can someone send a br krm build pls

[austere igloo]

gks is better than most people believe it to be...

[little bison]

actually true

[little bison]

just base it all off hip fire (real)

[austere igloo]

they all turn away from gks because of the slow ttk but they don't know the true value of gks

[little bison]

its just striker 45 but if it was actually good

[austere igloo]

they only see the slow ttk but neglect the stability, mobility & non-existent recoil of the gun

[shrewd elbow]

I shot a dude 3 times with hip fire in the chest and didnt knock them

[austere igloo]

ong

[shrewd elbow]

Manye its the slug ammunition

[little bison]

bro show me your build

[little bison]

YOU THINK?!?!!

bro 24dmg x12 is good

your making it deal less with slugs

[shrewd elbow]

Ik it was 126 damage but i thought it was cappin

[austere igloo]

why would you use slug ammo on krm?

[terse cobalt]

ppl doubt the gks?

[little bison]

it removes all pellets + removes it 1 shot capabilities

[austere igloo]

My old krm build

[austere igloo]

It’s non existent in my lobbies

[terse cobalt]

ppl who use smgs use metas tbh

[austere igloo]

I'm among the very few who use gks

[terse cobalt]

that's how ranked looks like

[little bison]

you cant consider chicom as "meta"

[shrewd elbow]

Ty for the build

[terse cobalt]

only AR have varieties in lobbies, buh SMGs? it's always the top 6

[shrewd elbow]

I cant send screenshot mabye cuz of my level

[vale lichen]

Someone's meta is other person's trash

[austere igloo]

FR

[vale lichen]

[terse cobalt]

once had it's buff last year, dunno ab now

[austere igloo]

chicom isn't meta

but it's gigachad for sure

[terse cobalt]

nah

[austere igloo]

yes it is

[vale lichen]

Yes

[terse cobalt]

it's just chaos

[austere igloo]

how is it chaos?

[little bison]

literally no recoil, fast ads + ads movement + good ironsights

i can list more

[austere igloo]

but can't one burst

[vale lichen]

Brust guns need skill

[austere igloo]

unlike m16

[little bison]

it can close range

[vale lichen]

Don't bring m-16💀💀

[austere igloo]

brings

[vale lichen]

Scary af gun

[terse cobalt]

only smg with absolutely no recoil is the ksp, ppbizon still bounces compared to it

[austere igloo]

but ksp is burst though

[terse cobalt]

it is

[austere igloo]

ksp meta dead, long live ksp meta

[vale lichen]

I hate that gun so much

[terse cobalt]

so is chicom yea?

[austere igloo]

ye

[little bison]

chicom has less recoil (imo)

[austere igloo]

& pharo too

[terse cobalt]

pharo 💀

[little bison]

we dont talk abt that gun

[terse cobalt]

mehn I used that gun when they buffed it tho

[austere igloo]

talks about that gun

[terse cobalt]

all these buffs where secret buffs

[austere igloo]

the taser attachment is an L though

[little bison]

it was good on release

[austere igloo]

as big an L as the underbarrel launcher for m4

[austere igloo]

does anyone even use this shit at all?

it's like a thumper on an ar but worse

[little bison]

it becomes a thumper though...

[terse cobalt]

can't be worst than the flashlight for the RUS

[little bison]

TRUE

[austere igloo]

but with worse damage

[vale lichen]

Shield for amax

[austere igloo]

you sure about that? the goofy-ahh looking shield on amax appears

[terse cobalt]

i thought that thing works at least

[austere igloo]

I was about to say that

[vale lichen]

Lol

[little bison]

nah cause that can slightly slow opp ttk at times

[austere igloo]

the amax shield looks like the gun has on shades

shitty walmart shades

[terse cobalt]

but the shield works yea? at least

[austere igloo]

[little bison]

amax shield is usable kinda so is the taser and grenade launcher underbarrel

[austere igloo]

works what? it's gone in 2 bullets

[terse cobalt]

bad ig but, i ain't using a flashlight that last for 20 seconds on broad day light

[little bison]

we can all agree flash sucks

[austere igloo]

unless you're playing night mode

[vale lichen]

So flashlight stun's enemies?

[austere igloo]

they might work

[little bison]

still bad

[terse cobalt]

i know you'd mention dta

[austere igloo]

but yea

[little bison]

barely works

[austere igloo]

overall rus flashlight is just filler

[terse cobalt]

20 seconds untill CoD timing hits

[little bison]

you become a sniper glare thats it

[vale lichen]

Honesty nothing sucks than Amax shield

[austere igloo]

that one suck too imo

[vale lichen]

[little bison]

nah bro flashlight sucks even more

[austere igloo]

all it takes is 2 bullets to make it disappear

& it doesn't protect you from blindsiding

[terse cobalt]

flash sucks more cuz it's logically useless. I can be swindled to actually think the shield is usefull but the flashlight?? nahh

[vale lichen]

devs were on meth designing them

[austere igloo]

oh yea, and the hb sensor on hades...

does anyone even use hades to begin with?

[terse cobalt]

that's actually smt

[vale lichen]

Atleast you can flash your enemies/s

[cunning rapids]

nah

[little bison]

it doesnt work like that

[austere igloo]

it's smth...but hades isn't even popular enough for people to even care about it

[terse cobalt]

hades is too weak to be an lmg

[little bison]

uhm yes

[vale lichen]

No,so we can't say its the worse

[austere igloo]

not the majority

[little bison]

it can deal 33 dmg to 22 dmg

with the rapid fire

[vale lichen]

Thats sarcasm

[terse cobalt]

better LMGs exist

[little bison]

its literally just a 4-5 shot all ranges

[austere igloo]

we know

we're just poking fun at hades

but then again, hades is no fun

[terse cobalt]

@little bison still believes in the hades

[austere igloo]

it's satisfying to kill with tho

[little bison]

erm ya cause its actually good? (somewhat)

[austere igloo]

but I don't like the way hades handles

[vale lichen]

High potential but need a buff

[terse cobalt]

below decent, but not bad

[narrow glen]

@terse cobalt, 20 Server Rank

[austere igloo]

it's like chopper but with arthritis

[little bison]

but things like UL and PKM are way better (for passive)

[terse cobalt]

a hades buff would be appreciated yes

[vale lichen]

[austere igloo]

pkm

[terse cobalt]

PKM...

[austere igloo]

I use that LOL

[terse cobalt]

[vale lichen]

Pkm spammers

[terse cobalt]

where PKM is useful is my Zombie lobby

[little bison]

imo shorty>

[terse cobalt]

shorty????

on Zombie mode?

[austere igloo]

the "pistol" shotgun

[vale lichen]

Yes💀

[austere igloo]

yes

[little bison]

oh i thought you meant siege

[austere igloo]

shorty is stronk in zombies mode

[terse cobalt]

[austere igloo]

whaddya think?

[vale lichen]

Bro is sleeping if he is talking about seige

[austere igloo]

orange camo on gun with orange robot skin

[little bison]

imo hades can compete with weapons like the holger (if anyone still uses that)

[terse cobalt]

I hate classic zombie.

[austere igloo]

[vale lichen]

Frontline?

[austere igloo]

Hardpoint

I camp near the spawn

[vale lichen]

Ooo

[austere igloo]

bro its pkm, if you're not camping with it you're not doing it right

[little bison]

make sure every time you spawn trap look behind since the game respawn mechanic is based on the players camera and pos

[terse cobalt]

...

[austere igloo]

thankfully my back is against a wall

so I got that covered...literally

unless someone wallbangs me (which is unlikely)

also I don't stay in one spot with the pkm...once I've cleared out one wave I move to another location

[slate parrot]

can anyone tell me how to share loadout no. In world chat plss

[little bison]

does fmj stack?

[austere igloo]

you can't

[vale lichen]

Me running with fmj chopper with zeke's nade

[terse cobalt]

stack?

[little bison]

in the No. button

[austere igloo]

wdym?

[slate parrot]

How can i share my loadout ?

[little bison]

like theres a mag on the kilo that gives bullet pene and it has a fmj perk

[terse cobalt]

we know fmj

[austere igloo]

you talking abt the 100rnd mag kilo?

[little bison]

ya

[austere igloo]

I didn't know that increases bullet penetration

[terse cobalt]

i think i saw it

[austere igloo]

I just thought it was an LMG conversion for the kilo

but the funny part is the kilo with that 100rnd mag makes it even slower than the average lmg

[little bison]

it justs gives you the ads time of a turtle

[austere igloo]

exactly

& the mobility of one, too

[terse cobalt]

i don't know if I've seen anything slower than the m4lmg
striker mag ptsd

[sinful umbra]

Any good dlq build with concussion mag for br?

Is the concussion mag good for br anyway

[ornate jackal]

Like lmg wise or guns in general

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris Thoughts?

[ruby iris]

Pretty nice, would use no stock over laser

[cunning rapids]

Looks okay with platinum

[tawny walrus]

Hmm…

[tawny walrus]

I was asking about the build, but it’s fine.

[rich arch]

Full ammo for the mag capacity?

Would this work for Holger too?

[cunning rapids]

I know

I’m just stating my opinion on how it looks with plat

[ruby iris]

60r is fucked

Usually it'd be like 60/240

But it's 60/80

[tawny walrus]

For Holger, there are different attachments.

[unique schooner]

Having a mag and a third goes crazy

[tawny walrus]

Developers thought that they were adding this LMG for MW.

[rich arch]

Oooffff

[rich arch]

I found the secret nail gun build just go to No. And put 3a

W

[real crescent]

[austere igloo]

Goofy

The rds on nailgun looks goofy

[rich arch]

Fr*

[tired grove]

Thats an ok build

[copper jacinth]

Best holger gunsmith for ranked?

[tired grove]

**Monolithic Suppressor
No Stock
OWC Laser Tactical
Disable
Granulated Grip Tape

For red dot, remove Disable or Laser**

[vestal rampart]

Have they patched that rds for nailgun yet ?

Or I should ask, when they patch it will we lose our hacked nailgun?

[copper jacinth]

Kk thanks

[eternal idol]

Holger. Yeah

[tired grove]

[ocean narwhal]

why do people flex bot matches

[bright shard]

Bc they aren’t good enough to do that well in ranked

[copper jacinth]

Imagine beeing that one russian guy that has 4 bot mates and he is worse than them☠️🤣

[eternal idol]

Not flexing lmao. Just meant to say that the holger is nice. I suck, I assure you.

[vale lichen]

80/1 in bot lobby is also a good score

They have insane aim assist

[rich arch]

Thoughts on this for BR?

Concussion ammo & Disable

[ocean narwhal]

use normal mag

[tawny walrus]

Light suppressor and extended magazine.

[ocean narwhal]

bv is trash with that

[rich arch]

No stun?

[tawny walrus]

DLQ has infinite range.

[ocean narwhal]

also light suppressor

maybe soh

[tawny walrus]

In addition, duration of stun effect is low.

[rich arch]

Wouldn't it improve the crosshair placement in ranges ?

Like I wouldn't need to put it way above their head

[tawny walrus]

Huh? It doesn’t affect that.

[rich arch]

Or it doesn't matter

[tawny walrus]

First time hearing about that.

[rich arch]

Oh really? Nice, I thought it affected

Yeah like , if you reduce the range more, you'll have to place your crosshair way above their head to get the headshot in very long ranges

[tawny walrus]

Light suppressor doesn’t affect on bullet velocity.

That’s what are you trying to say.

[rich arch]

No, not talking about bv

Lemme show you actually what I mean

[tawny walrus]

It’s bullet velocity.

[rich arch]

I'm drawing it because I can't explain it correctly

Here @tawny walrus

Is this actually bv? I thought bv is just about how fast the bullet travels in the air until it lands on the target

@ocean narwhal

[ocean narwhal]

no thats bullet drop

i dont think codm has it

games like pubg has those ballistics but codm i dont think so

[rich arch]

Hmmm that's great then. That's why I wasn't nerfing the Ranges of my snipers in BR. I know the barrels don't increase or decrease bv, and I also know range isn't needed but I wouldn't also reduce it more because I thought of that

[rich arch]

That's great

[tawny walrus]

@rich arch I agree with chlee - CODM doesn’t have this feature.

[rich arch]

Great 👍🏼

Thanks

What about Rytec or SPR since they can't 2 tap in their second range?@tawny walrus

I need the range there right?

Also, thanks both for the confirmation

[tawny walrus]

It’s up to you. I wouldn’t use any range modules for RyTec, since it has infinite range one shot potential. Regardless SPR, it doesn’t perform well in BR, so, I’m my vision, it shouldn’t be used in BR. It was a peak sniper rifle in BR with one shot potential, but now, it’s not that great anymore.

[rich arch]

Yeah you're actually right Rytec doesn't have 2 ranges . It one taps up to infinity

I don't know why I thought that it had 2 ranges

The builds I recommended aren't good damn

I thought Explosive ammo is helpful actually

Especially against vehicles

[rich arch]

Aren't**

But they weren't main, they were more like troll builds

[tawny walrus]

It might be useful before, when RyTec wasn’t able one shot without the special attachment. But it appears, that developers changed that sniper rifle and made it more consistent.

[rich arch]

Ohhhh I see

:((

I should never had upgraded it

[tawny walrus]

I had the same mistake, when I built RyTec, so don’t worry about that.

At least, you know this sniper capabilities.

[shadow briar]

not a thing in codm. just need to lead your targets, not account for bullet drop

[shadow briar]

just run thermite 4head

[tawny walrus]

I don’t think I’ll use it again in BR.

[shadow briar]

tbh same

i only ever run xpr or (more often) zrg

or thermal artic if i'm feeling especially blind that day

[unreal gale]

Apparently mythic dlq is good in br

[tawny walrus]

My friend, who mains BR, told that it doesn’t really perform well in this mode. I don’t remember the exact reason, but it has to do with reticle or something else.

[vestal rampart]

I love it in br

Super clear feels like cheating lol

Oh damn that was an hour ago 💀

Server ded

[ornate jackal]

Opinions on svd in br?

[viscid belfry]

i used it and everyone called me crazy

[ornate jackal]

Im iffy with snipers in br, i hit my shots get kills obviously but depending on where final zone is ur snipers either invalid or amazing

[unreal gale]

most people I've talked to says it's only good in BR

because you can see the head more clearly or something

but it's largely considered to be worse than default in mp

and by quite a lot too

[old reef]

I have created a monstrosity

[tardy vessel]

Can I get a build for the 50.gs

[hard creek]

Whats the best build for the qq9?

Im looking for speed and ads

[umbral obsidian]

Mono
Ext barrel
No stock
45 mag
Gran/ tac laser

[umbral obsidian]

tac laser
owc laser
light weight trigger
mag 2
ext light barrel

[pulsar oxide]

Whats the top 3 best smg iyo

[umbral obsidian]

switchblade
qq9
CX9
cordite/pdw

[tardy vessel]

I need a explanation on the tac laser cus I don’t see anything on that

[umbral obsidian]

owc laser

[tardy vessel]

Alright

[austere igloo]

Cordite??

I’m not saying cordite is bad, but top 3 smg? Nah

[ruby iris]

Cx9
Sx9
Pdw

[austere igloo]

Pdw still top 3?

[ruby iris]

It's just a recoil nerf

[austere igloo]

Didn’t it fall off aft they debuffed it?

Dear CN players, stop treating the PDW as your meta, using another smg ffs

[umbral obsidian]

im not saying top 3 im just saying what guns are viable

[austere igloo]

By that logic, I can also say gks is “top 3”

Y’all don’t give that smg enough credit

[umbral obsidian]

gks is fine

[austere igloo]

It’s more than just fine dammit

It’s decent

[ornate jackal]

I mean

Top 3? Consistent?
Bizon
Switchblade
Qq9

[austere igloo]

Bizon…really?

[shadow briar]

i personally don’t see why you would, don’t have the stats in front of me rn tho so talking outta my ass rn

[austere igloo]

You throwin’ that one into the equation too?

[austere igloo]

Mid

[shadow briar]

i just don’t see why i would drop ZRG for it

[austere igloo]

Svd has terrible weapon sway

Worse than the other snipers

[tawdry vault]

Personally, Id switch bizon with Rus

[ornate jackal]

I cant name a reason why bizon isnt at least top 5

[austere igloo]

Rus is underrated ngl

[tawdry vault]

It is so slept on ong

[ornate jackal]

And then i see it being interchangeable in 3

[shadow briar]

aks feels kinda like mp5

[austere igloo]

Even if bizon is in top5, it’d be right at the bottom of that list

Like, no.5 tier at best

[ornate jackal]

Cbr should honestly hold 3 but so many people gonna go “pdw and cx9 better”

[austere igloo]

Def not no.3 tier

[shadow briar]

top of A tier for smgs, not quite S

[austere igloo]

Fuck the cbr, it shouldn’t even be in top 5

[tawdry vault]

Imo, my ranking for top 3 smgs are switchblade 3rd, Rus 2nd, Qq9 1st

[ornate jackal]

Nerf wasnt that bad

[austere igloo]

It has overstayed it’s welcome

[tawdry vault]

Id put cbr in top ten

[austere igloo]

It’s still not enough to place at higher

[tawdry vault]

Same as bizon

[shadow briar]

isn’t the p90 not able to 3tap

[ornate jackal]

So whats 3rd in ur opinion

[shadow briar]

like at all

[austere igloo]

With it being at no.8/no.9

[austere igloo]

Switchblade

[ornate jackal]

I actually forgot abt the fennec

[tawdry vault]

Meh, id put it at 7th

[austere igloo]

Fennec is 2nd for me

[tawdry vault]

Bizon in 6th

[austere igloo]

What?

[ornate jackal]

Idk why i forgot about fennec its literally up there

[tawdry vault]

Id put cbr in 7th

[austere igloo]

It has optimal performance to be at 5th though

[tawdry vault]

Yeah

[austere igloo]

It should be 8th, not even 7th

7th should prolly go to gks

[tawdry vault]

Thats your opinion, not mine

[ornate jackal]

So like can someone explain stat wise why im sposed to like qq9

[shadow briar]

mp5/sb tied for 1, aks 3, fennec 4, bizon 5 are my top 5

[austere igloo]

Rus is 3??

[tawdry vault]

Rus is second for me

[austere igloo]

My second is fennec

[ruby iris]

Qq9 is a slightly more consistent sx9
But worse recoil and taper

[tawdry vault]

Fennec is close forth, can be interchangeable with switchblade

[austere igloo]

Better bsa, recoil, ttk & mobility

[viscid belfry]

theres ak on smg?

[austere igloo]

Rus is the aks

[ruby iris]

Rus

[shadow briar]

i don’t like the way fennec handles past 10m, aks feels more like mp5 and i like that

[viscid belfry]

didnt knee

[rich arch]

So how is everyone doing with the nail gun hmm

[viscid belfry]

knew

[rich arch]

?

[shadow briar]

rus = aks 74u

[viscid belfry]

a bs

[shadow briar]

tbh hate it

[austere igloo]

I mean it’s fennec…you’re not supposed to use it beyond that range

[viscid belfry]

ah got it

[tawdry vault]

Nail gun has gotten me out of reads notes and cringes sticky situations

[shadow briar]

i get that in theory nail gun is good, but i CANNOT get it to work. sticking with lcar/makarov

[tawdry vault]

Def not top ten in pistols tho

[shadow briar]

are there even 10 pistols

[dusty heart]

Argus is booty

[austere igloo]

Nailgun is a meme

[tawdry vault]

Im pretty sure

[ornate jackal]

This is me with qq9

[dusty heart]

Fails to be a shotgun

[ornate jackal]

I like nailgun

[viscid belfry]

prob nail gun its tied at crossbow

[austere igloo]

Also y’all sleeping on this frfr

[shadow briar]

don’t use it like a shotgun

[rich arch]

Why is so many people active here

[ornate jackal]

I would use it over renetti

[austere igloo]

Why shouldn’t there be?

[tawdry vault]

I really am sleepin on the gks

[viscid belfry]

i gtg gn everyone

[dusty heart]

Why is it even in the shotgun category

[austere igloo]

Gks deserves a spot at top 10 smg list

[shadow briar]

i haven’t used gks in ages

[dusty heart]

I regret getting the legendary

[ornate jackal]

Gks is amazing

[shadow briar]

should be moved to dmr tbh

[ruby iris]

I will continue to do so

[austere igloo]

Even if it’s not in top 5 gks should be at least no.7/no.6 worthy

[dusty heart]

Bizon>gks

[austere igloo]

Your loss blud

[ornate jackal]

Ye

[ruby iris]

Also razorback

[ornate jackal]

Switchblade better than qq9

[shadow briar]

why should i use gks over mp5 (outside of trying something new (i hate change))

[dusty heart]

Bizon just does gks work better

[austere igloo]

That’s a really based opinion to have

[austere igloo]

So…basically, easier for the no-skilled

[ruby iris]

At least it's not striker 45

[dusty heart]

Same hitbox,better ttk,larger mag

[ruby iris]

[rich arch]

What is the #1 gun this season

[austere igloo]

Bizon still has bounce unlike the gks

[shadow briar]

if you hit 100% heads yes, pretty sure mp5 is more generous with damage (might be misremembering tho)

[austere igloo]

Which is super stable

[ruby iris]

Lk prolly

[dusty heart]

Smth wrong if Bizon has kick for you

[shadow briar]

bizon is noob gun of choice for a reason

has literally 0 recoil

[dusty heart]

Nah kn>

[austere igloo]

I mean the bizon isn’t as smooth as people make it out to be

It’s not literally 0% recoil

[ruby iris]

At least gks is still better than the meme smgs

[shadow briar]

it really is lol

[ruby iris]

Like striker 45

[ornate jackal]

I think lapa is underrated smg

[austere igloo]

Bizon is like the holger but for smgs

[shadow briar]

don’t shit talk my 12rnd cx9 like that

[ruby iris]

Kn is like lk, but shit recoil, why would anyone bother

[dusty heart]

Striker is wack

Keep on thinking it’s an ar

[austere igloo]

It’s wack

[dusty heart]

There’s none tho?

[rich arch]

The striker 45 is called striker 9 in MWIII

[ruby iris]

Send spray vid

[austere igloo]

Kn’s recoil is manageable whut💀💀

[dusty heart]

Alr

[ornate jackal]

U mean like amax or smth?

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

You gotta be high to think kn has shit recoil

[ornate jackal]

Amax has more recoil than kn

[tawdry vault]

Lapa be picking up steam in my region tbh

[shadow briar]

amax has basically no recoil

[austere igloo]

I have not seen lapa used in my server for 4 seasons

It’s non-existent

[shadow briar]

i haven’t seen it (NA) since the season it released

[austere igloo]

Provided the attachments u use buff the recoil

[ruby iris]

I consider this to be average recoil, worse than this and it's shit

[austere igloo]

& I also have not seen amax for a long time

[austere igloo]

You’re using an smg mf…

[shadow briar]

closest to recoil mitigating i run is range barrel

[austere igloo]

How can you compare this to ar-level recoil?

It’s only fair to compare ar recoil with another ar

[ruby iris]

If an smg can outperform an ar at range, then it's the ar's problem

[ruby iris]

Lk24

[austere igloo]

Says who?

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

That is your opinion

[ruby iris]

Kn objectively has worse recoil than lk

[austere igloo]

By that logic if a marksman can outdamage a sniper at range then it’s the sniper’s problem

[tawdry vault]

Then explain why my most recent 20 matches have at least 2 lapa users

[shadow briar]

sks:

[austere igloo]

Because we’re not in the same region

[ruby iris]

Yes

M21 moment

[tawdry vault]

What region are you?

[austere igloo]

Which doesn’t make sense

[tawdry vault]

Im NA

[austere igloo]

Garena

[shadow briar]

spr and mk2 can both 1tap body, sks is fastest firing 1tap head in the game

[tawdry vault]

Thats version, not region🤓

[shadow briar]

unless you want a scope snipers kinda falling off tbh

[austere igloo]

Well it doesn’t really matter anyway

You & I are playing diff versions of the game to begin with

So there’s no comparison

[ruby iris]

Cod is a competitive game, if you aint the best at something, might as well be shit tbh, only reason to run kn over lk is because of personal preference

[austere igloo]

The players on your end behave differently from mine

[ornate jackal]

I used to use it and was gonna go for lb but like its hard to use

[austere igloo]

Ofc

[ruby iris]

You seeing any pros using kn over lk in champs?

[shadow briar]

cause garena players are fucking psychos

[ornate jackal]

Not like its just terrible but it underperforms and its like idk its lapa lol

[ruby iris]

Lapa is good

[ornate jackal]

Garena players just pick a shotgun and then pray their faster

[shadow briar]

i can’t use lapa, hate the irons and don’t wanna run red dot

[austere igloo]

esp shotgun users

[ornate jackal]

I think lapa is the em2 of smgs

[austere igloo]

I’m not one of those people

[shadow briar]

imagine esping with krm instead of sks

[austere igloo]

Not even close, it’s more like the krig

But with worse stats

[austere igloo]

Garena has very few sks users

[shadow briar]

decent weapon with shit irons?

[austere igloo]

Somewhat

[ornate jackal]

Lapa has no recoil only thing similar is the irons

[austere igloo]

Krig has better stats than lapa even though both have dogshit irons

[shadow briar]

just realized you meant esp as in especially not as in ESP

[austere igloo]

Ehh I wouldn’t say there’s absolutely no recoil but it’s so manageable you prolly won’t even notice

[dusty heart]

Noticeable but manageable,also faster than lk with better bsa

[austere igloo]

Bruh

[ornate jackal]

No sks players? So uh guess im a garena player now

[dusty heart]

I’d probably have better spray with the leggy

I don’t do well with base kn irons

[austere igloo]

There are, but just very few

[shadow briar]

kinda laser beam

[austere igloo]

& when the sks players come out, these guys are serious

Garena’s sks players are few, but they can actually aim

[ornate jackal]

Is that a thumbs hud

[dusty heart]

30m 4 tap btw

[shadow briar]

i played AB, i think it’s a fair assumption to make

[dusty heart]

Kinda

[ornate jackal]

U play 3 finger?

[austere igloo]

This is my 3-finger hud

[dusty heart]

Left index is only for hipfiring

[austere igloo]

I know it’s a mess, don’t judge me

[shadow briar]

probably about as much of a mess as mine, so i ain’t gonna talk shit

[modest dove]

get the legendary kn

[narrow glen]

@modest dove, 12 Server Rank

[ornate jackal]

I might adjust my hud doesnt work for me well

[dusty heart]

I’m on the last spin to get it but don’t wanna ruin my credit score

[ornate jackal]

Which one do u mean theres 3

[dusty heart]

So I’m getting it this Saturday

[modest dove]

the most recent one

[austere igloo]

Understandable

[dusty heart]

You could try mine

It’s pretty comfy

Index doesn’t do much unless you’re aggro sniping or cqc

[dusty heart]

Kn build: tac suppressor,ranger barrel,steady stock,44rnd mag,rubberized grip

[ruby iris]

60m

[shadow briar]

this is mine. yes i have the accessibility home button cause my phone is broken and it would cost more to replace the screen than the phone is worth. Screen is 4in by 2.5in (10.5cm x 6cm)

[dusty heart]

Why even try at that range

[ruby iris]

Cuz that's lk's prime range

[shadow briar]

how are the irons?

[ruby iris]

Even smgs can challenge at that range

[ruby iris]

Average

[shadow briar]

ah

[ruby iris]

But usable

[ornate jackal]

Quite irritating that m4lmg leggy is never in refresh

[dusty heart]

You don’t even get those fights in mp tho,also how is that lks prime range

[ornate jackal]

Its never gonna come back

[dusty heart]

It only 4 taps till 30m no?

With your build

[ruby iris]

Crossfire is 90m, 60m is nothing

[ruby iris]

Also 4 tap second range

[dusty heart]

Second range is what I was referring to

[ornate jackal]

Crossmapping in a sniper map?

[dusty heart]

Is first range chance of 3 tap

[dusty heart]

Ricey is on some grass

[ruby iris]

51m

[ornate jackal]

Gonna play a few games myself

[dusty heart]

Gl standing out in the open trying to spray someone without getting pwn’d or being a free target

[ornate jackal]

Test out hbr

[ruby iris]

Headglitch

The whole match

[ornate jackal]

U need angles to hold range with lk

[dusty heart]

Plus the only applicable map is crossfire

[ruby iris]

That's how i play nowadays tbh, rushing is tiring

[ruby iris]

Almost every angle in raid is 40m+

[dusty heart]

Which kn can handle anyways

Just a lack of 4 tap past 30m iirc

Kn is also pretty fast so yeah it’s more of a flex

[ruby iris]

And lk does the job better

[dusty heart]

So instead of keeping a flex like kn aside you’d pack lk and pray for 2 maps and hope you get to sit the appropriate angles?

That’s crazy

[ruby iris]

Every map has 40m+ angles

And there are better options for flex ars anyways

Kn cant decide if it wants to be flex or main

[ornate jackal]

Standoff?

[tawny walrus]

KN is underrated.

[ornate jackal]

Any hardpoint map tbh

I think kn is very consistent and reliable

[tawny walrus]

Yep, it’s hidden meta.

Makes me want to play with it again.

[hollow panther]

Make the hvk underrated again

[ornate jackal]

Hbr is good to use it just feels like a mid range gun

[unreal gale]

Fr

Buff mag to 40 thanks

[keen gazelle]

how is meta hidden

the most effective tactic being hidden, thats a new one

[tawny walrus]

It was buffed a lot and no one noticed.

[keen gazelle]

and yet the grau does everything it can but better

[keen gazelle]

it’s what you call off meta

like my dumbass amax, except its not even a tier, mf is in like c

one day the amax will shine 🙏🙏 one day but not anytime soon

[tawny walrus]

*our AMAX.

[austere igloo]

Does anyone still use icr at all?

It’s certainly not the best, but it’s satisfying to land kills with

[hollow panther]

Rarely ever see it

Even when in grinding in shipment ffa

[ornate jackal]

U have to realize that meta definition isnt used properly in most games

[keen gazelle]

our amax will never succeed😔

[tawny walrus]

Don’t say that.

[keen gazelle]

if its properly used then for being the most effective tactic available, the kn44 isnt hidden

[ornate jackal]

Edited

[keen gazelle]

got it

[ornate jackal]

Icr easily one of the best ars

[vale lichen]

Skin looks lit af

[austere igloo]

Yet only bots use it

[vale lichen]

Not anymore

It is getting recognized

[austere igloo]

Thankfully

[unreal gale]

it's a classic no recoil gun, like a better m4

can you try the bk57 btw?

[austere igloo]

Yea but with slower fire rate

[unreal gale]

want to see if it's good now

[austere igloo]

I would if I was at home

[unreal gale]

also is nail gun good?

compared to what's it called

[austere igloo]

Nail gun is a meme

[unreal gale]

lcar

[austere igloo]

It has dogshit bv

[austere igloo]

Lcar is bttr than nail gun in every aspect

[unreal gale]

do you know about the 3A red dot?

[unreal gale]

oh. then what's the point 🗿

[austere igloo]

I know, but I haven’t got around to trying it out

[austere igloo]

Because they needed a gimmick gun

[unreal gale]

that's lame

I'm hyped for the next AR. Meta worthy moment

Hope it's more like a Kilo rather than a m13

[austere igloo]

Lcar at least has merit

Nail gun is like they weren’t even trying

[shadow briar]

i think nail gun can kill faster in its closest range if you 3tap head

otherwise lcar beats it in EVERY way

[austere igloo]

Mhmm

[severe shard]

type 25 and m16 build?

[ocean narwhal]

M16
Wild fire
tac suppressor
no stock
48r
operator fg/gran

wild fire
tac suppressor
mip strike stock
ranger fg
48r

[tawdry vault]

Wild fire be shitty

[ocean narwhal]

quite the opposite

[tawdry vault]

Nuh uh

[ocean narwhal]

nuh uh

[tawny walrus]

Eh, Wild Fire makes M16 useful.