codm-gunsmith-help

[austere igloo]

& I’m talking abt mp, not br

[tawny walrus]

Light suppressor
Stock
Perk of your choice
7 mag

[austere igloo]

Im using soh

4 attachments? That’s it?

[tawny walrus]

You can put a scope or the bipod if you want.

[austere igloo]

I mean I won’t need a scope since I’m using the iridiscent lines hdr

[rich arch]

Don't they increase ads time though?

[austere igloo]

oden isnt a gun meant to aggro so ads time is a lesser priority

u should build ur gun for stability & range instead

[rich arch]

So equipping marksman barrel is fine?

[austere igloo]

colossus supp helps range

[austere igloo]

ofc I don't mean u should build it completely for that

what I meant was that ads time shouldn't come first when building a non-aggro weapon

[rich arch]

I see

[undone sandal]

you can but it's not ideal

[austere igloo]

if u wanna put marksman barrel on oden it's better to do it on br oden

because oden is a beast in br with its damage range & stability

[undone sandal]

assuming you hit your shots

[rich arch]

So for oden I take:
Colossus
Duplex ammo
Gran grip
Tac laser
Combat stock
Right?

[austere igloo]

that works

[undone sandal]

if you're gonna use duplex then don't use gran

rubberized better

combat stock is fine if you can handle the recoil climb

[rich arch]

Ok, thx

[austere igloo]

personally I'd use light stock

since colossus kills a lot of yr strafe

[rich arch]

If I can't handle the recoil should I go for a barrel?

[undone sandal]

op fg

[rich arch]

Idk what those abbreviations mean

[undone sandal]

operator Foregrip

[rich arch]

Thx

[austere igloo]

learn it

it will make for easier references whenever people give builds here

[rich arch]

Alright

[austere igloo]

gran - granulated
mono supp - monolithic suppressor
light supp - owc light suppressor
tac supp - tactical suppressor
striker fg - striker foregrip
agency supp - agency suppressor
aa laser - aim assist laser
owc tac - owc tactical laser
rubb - rubberized grip
fg - foregrip
op fg - operator foregrip
mip/5mw laser - mip 5mw combat laser
ext mag - extended mag
skelly stock - owc skeleton stock
soh - sleight of hand

hopefully this helps

[rich arch]

Definitely it helps, can you pin this in the channel?

[austere igloo]

I don't think I can

[rich arch]

@undone sandal can you pin this in the channel?

[undone sandal]

never seen people call OWC Laser - Tactical as owc tac
its more used as tac laser or tactical laser

[eternal idol]

@austere igloo thx for loadout. Which gun is worth maxing out to use in ranked ? (Ffar worth it ?)
As for the karambit, people said clan shop. Where is that ? Does it require a clan, cuz im not in one.

And yeah, 2 mutes here. Where do I send images, then ?

[tawny walrus]

Yes, but it gives a great boost to damage range.

[rich arch]

I see, thx

[vestal rampart]

‘Worth maxing’ is subjective and up to you. If u mean easy to max then yes ffar.

And yes u gotta be in a clan to get the currency needed to buy things from the clan store

[vestal rampart]

#codm-gallery

Got to boost server or reach lvl 35 to post elsewhere

[austere igloo]

same logic

[austere igloo]

not only that, u gotta participate in clan wars to gain currency

[severe valley]

Ahoy boys

Can I get a build for the Lidl beer?

(Argus)

[rich arch]

What would you say about subsonic heavy ammo for oden?

And is hvk with large caliber better than oden?

[austere igloo]

Debatable

[austere igloo]

Do not use it

Subsonic heavy ammo is must not touch for oden

It kills your bullet speed

Hvk lc & drh both have their niche, but one isn’t better than the other

[digital needle]

Unless you build Oden as SMG and 2 tapping players

2.5 Bullet impact

Just imagine ..

That's why Oden is the most broken gun in Codm

[austere igloo]

That’s for duplex ammo

[austere igloo]

For an AR too

Alas, oden isn’t meant as an aggro wpn

Because of its slow mobility

[rich arch]

Even with normal ammo it 2 taps on chest

[austere igloo]

Exactly

[rich arch]

That's why I don't see how duplex is superior

Now that they brought 2022 S4 back in construct rewards I'll make the oden my main

I've always been a fan of anime skins

[ruby iris]

Makes 2 taps easier

You need 1 out of 4 pellet

Instead of 1 out of 2 rounds

[ruby iris]

@austere igloo

[light sentinel]

Ots loadout?

[rich arch]

For drh I gotta use otm mag, right?

[ornate jackal]

Yes 30 round is better

[ornate jackal]

Refuse to ever take this game up to this level

Not calculating how much damage they take in their upper left leg 56 degrees away from their middle toe with a special attachment

I point i click they die -> they point they click i die

If it gets to the point where dmg is questionable then ill just switch builds or admit im less skilled

[ruby iris]

It's not that complicated
Just kill 100 bots and see how many died in 2 hits, as opposed to 3

80 out of 100 died in 2 hits with duplex

[eternal idol]

So Oden good ?

[ornate jackal]

Oden is good

[ruby iris]

63 out of 100 died in 2 hits without duplex

[ruby iris]

Good in br, meh in mp

[eternal idol]

Grau only ranked smh

[ornate jackal]

I understood it I just dont understand why probability rates are necessary for game play when you could test it

[ruby iris]

For ppl who doesnt have time to test stuff and just wants to know which is good and which isnt

You cant just go
"Duplex is good"
-trust me bro

[ornate jackal]

Gotcha

[ocean narwhal]

the counter intuitive stats on duty nuke bsa oden build

[keen lichen]

I need one famous good load out

[eternal idol]

Is the gm Grau recommended loadoit good ?

[rich arch]

I'm totally confused now
Is duplex better than large extended mag or not?

[umbral obsidian]

Yes

[digital needle]

Oden is the most broken gun in Codm history

How i can say more

[ocean narwhal]

[digital needle]

Oden getting buff again next season * sigh * I'm done with this game.

[unique schooner]

W

[digital needle]

With Ads speed buff you can build as SMG and 2 tappings everyone, beating TTK of every single guns in the game

What Timi studios is thinking again .. business, money over game balance

[rich arch]

Suits me

I'mma make oden my main, because of the skin

I love anime skins

[thorn charm]

Good, finally something I can abuse against Snipers in SnD. Considering sniping is the most broken and abused meta in that game mode.

[digital needle]

3 taps infinite range ..

Just nerf it on BR

Mp is still Fine unless pros starts abusing it

Simply, it's full auto Sniper with Zero recoil and BSA.

[rich arch]

What do you mean zero recoil???

Its recoil is heavy af

[digital needle]

Nah .. absolutely no recoil at all

Oden has only straight vertical recoil, just pull down

[rich arch]

Oh that's what you meant

[neat horizon]

.50 GS gunsmith plz 🥺

[maiden ocean]

Mono supp
Soh
Tac laser/5mw laser
Lightweight trigger
Large extended mag

[valid zodiac]

What's the best gun to use this season

[rigid swan]

grau and its getting another buff

[valid zodiac]

Build?

[narrow glen]

@valid zodiac, 2 Server Rank

[rigid swan]

mono or tac suppresor, tempus or nexus barrel, cronen sniper grip, no stock, 50 rd ext

you could even build the grau bad and still probably do good with it

[valid zodiac]

Okay thx

[rigid swan]

ofc ofc

[ruby iris]

Duplex is better than base mag in mp

[tight cargo]

bro cant get stars on his ak

[keen gazelle]

whys that

[rocky citrus]

dawg I lost -20 brain cells reading that

[clever torrent]

I'm Having A Strokn Clal A Tomsdulance

[neat horizon]

Thx 🫶

Anyone have a good m4 with classic red dot sight build?

[visual bloom]

i don’t think that you need a red dot

unless you’re playing br or from a very long range

[neat horizon]

I just like using red dot on weapons but sometimes I don’t use it

[clear girder]

@ruby iris me have question once more

[umbral obsidian]

mono
light barrel
rds
gran
biggest mag

[clear girder]

why light barrel

[umbral obsidian]

its better

wait

[clear girder]

you dont bulid an m4 flex

[umbral obsidian]

*mip light barrel (short)

[ruby iris]

?

[clear girder]

so

what do you think on building smgs slow

[ruby iris]

You do

[clear girder]

im talking marksman steady stock

[ruby iris]

Main also works

[hidden eagle]

Can I get a 3 finger controls

[umbral obsidian]

yh that

[clear girder]

No

[clear girder]

why gran then if flex

[umbral obsidian]

m4 has terrible bsa no?

[ruby iris]

Depends on the lmg, rpd/pkm/camping lmgs works
I'd run something faster if chopper/hades/holger/similar guns

[ruby iris]

M4 has shid bsa for some reasons

[clear girder]

building it slow fixes that issue

[ruby iris]

Like grau level bsa

[clear girder]

grau bsa is

[ruby iris]

But then it aint competing with kilo/lk

[clear girder]

isnt it like 18

[ruby iris]

You use gran on grau

[hidden eagle]

Pls anyone with 3 fingers control

[ruby iris]

No reason to not run gran on m4

[clear girder]

m4 kinda blows anyways

[umbral obsidian]

its personal preference do what works for you

[ruby iris]

Try my build above, it's not terrible, but definitely could be better

Slower kilo with worse bsa

[clear girder]

no stock?

[ruby iris]

Light short is better than no stock, only on m4

[umbral obsidian]

the barrel is your no stock

[clear girder]

as in like

[narrow glen]

@clear girder, 26 Server Rank

[ruby iris]

Balancing is weird, you can check the pros and cons yourself

[clear girder]

not no stock the attachment

in general

[ruby iris]

Ye, you dont need stock o m4

[clear girder]

isnt there a light stock

[ruby iris]

Ehh, light short is basically no stock without the flinch penalty

Light short on m4 is actually busted

[clear girder]

whats your kilo

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
Elb
Op fg
Gran
Mag b

Doesnt kills strafe

Still stable enough for beam

You could run ranger fg and free up gran for a free slot

@clear girder

[clear girder]

werid asf

[clear girder]

you can just throw random shit on the kilo

i could send you 15 kilo builds rn no joke

[ruby iris]

It's like
Supp
Range
Bsa and recoil
Mag

[clear girder]

and all would be viable

[ruby iris]

Run whatever boost them

[clear girder]

tac supp and mag

then random shit

[ruby iris]

Ehh, codm gunsmithing isnt fun anymore ngl

Now i do ab gunsmithing

[tired wharf]

Ab is Mid game

[ruby iris]

Why?

[clear girder]

seems boring

[ruby iris]

Ye, it isnt for everyone

Stakes are very high so ppl would camp like their entire acc is on the line

Which a lot of the time is true

[tired wharf]

Yeah I find it slow and boring

Codm is fast action

[tawdry vault]

AB is too complex for my scatter head

[ruby iris]

It isnt mid, it just not for everyone

[ruby iris]

Just shoot and loot

And storage management

And market stuff

[tawdry vault]

Ammo types, and mag types and sizes? i dont have the mental retention to remember calibers and shit man

I keep doubling back

[ruby iris]

It's not that hard, you'll eventually remember once you play enough

Like ~2-3 weeks

[tawdry vault]

So you say

[ruby iris]

Die to them enough and you'll remember

[tawdry vault]

Adhd would beg to differ

[ruby iris]

Nah, you wouldnt forget that time you lost a million ingame currency to a ratting sniper

[chilly wagon]

Anyone has a build for ak117?

[cunning rapids]

I do let me load in

[austere igloo]

No stock
Mono supp
Ext barrel/granulated
Ext mag
Owc tac laser

[cunning rapids]

my build & load out

[viscid belfry]

how is its sight?

also shit skin

[cunning rapids]

It’s not

[viscid belfry]

(not the ak)

[chilly wagon]

Alright thanks guys

[austere igloo]

Portnova hypersonic > portnova fitness instructor

[shadow briar]

i would play AB more if my dog phone could handle it

its a more fun game imo but MAN, on a 6yo iphone that shits rough

[median bay]

i need a setup for the locus with mono supressor bc i need the barrel skin

[ruby iris]

Attachment appearance:

[winter quail]

Yo

[ornate jackal]

How significant is the boost from set

[cunning rapids]

Let me check

Cause I finished the outlaw set

[lunar heart]

Need ICR build for MP.

[pastel sun]

oh my god my kilo bolt has so slowwww ads and crazy hit flinch

[maiden ocean]

Integral supp
No stock
Tac laser/fmj/red dot
38 round fast reload
Gran grip tape

[shut marsh]

any good switchblade build?

[tawny walrus]

• Monolithic suppressor
• Extended barrel
• Light stock
• Disable
• Extended magazine

[austere igloo]

I wouldn't use monolithic suppressor

tactical suppressor would suffice

mono kills your already bad bsa on sbx9

[tawny walrus]

BSA on close quarters combat SMG.

Understandable.

[austere igloo]

ask tych himself

[tawny walrus]

@undone sandal

[tawny walrus]

For your info, this build was used on the latest championship.

[uneven anchor]

switch is an smg anyways

[keen gazelle]

why would you use mono for the sx9

obviously for range, why else is monolithic useful but remind me how much range youre increasing? 😭 i might be wrong on how much i think it is

[keen gazelle]

try this instead for faster ads

[rich arch]

Everyone is complaining about the monolithic suppressor but I'm fine with it

Though I don't understand why you use disable on an smg

[keen gazelle]

its not bad, but its like using a laser on a sniper

[keen gazelle]

i personally agree with disable for the sx9

[rich arch]

Isn't it only worth for lmg and sks?

[keen gazelle]

only the sx9 tho, it has negative leg multipliers (less damage to legs) so if and when you do hit legs, youre at least slowing their movement

[rich arch]

I see so sx9 only

I might go for that

[keen gazelle]

and/or guns that have negative leg multiplyers

[rich arch]

I have the same build as komi but instead of disable I use ranger stock

For better bsa and easier recoil control

[keen gazelle]

ranger stock? ive never heard of it lol, the steady stock?

or ranger underbarrel (foregrip)

[rich arch]

Yeah, yeah underbarrel I meant 😂
Wtf was I even talking about

Ranger foregrip that's what it's called

[keen gazelle]

right lol, that ones rlly good

[austere igloo]

has anyone tried out the m249 in br?

I did, and tbh it feels like a pkm 2.0

[keen gazelle]

you mean the bruen mk9

[rich arch]

Hot take, use 60r mag on Bruen and make it a better holger

[little bison]

problem is bsa feels like theres too much bsa

[austere igloo]

Yea I’m gonna call it the m249 bcoz that’s how I first knew the gun

[austere igloo]

Does this apply to br?

[keen gazelle]

yk what im rlly annoying abt people that change gun names but i like this

acceptable

[austere igloo]

Really annoying what?

[rich arch]

Idk, but what's stopping you from trying it out??

[austere igloo]

U mean to say “im rlly annoyed”?

[keen gazelle]

anytime somebody gets technical and whats to name the gun by the irl name (cause nobody knows it) i reply with the actual name

[austere igloo]

U can only use it on ground loot anyway

[tawny walrus]

You just answered on your own question.

[keen gazelle]

i myself am the annoying one

[austere igloo]

U can’t even access it on custom blueprints

[austere igloo]

Oh

[austere igloo]

But I began with it here now

[little bison]

i wonder how good will nailgun be

[austere igloo]

I started it off by saying m249 & not the in-game name

[rich arch]

Nailgun???

Like in those zombie apocalypse games?

Shooting nails?

[little bison]

uh isnt that the 2nd new weapon??

[rich arch]

Ohhh

[austere igloo]

Yea

[rich arch]

I only knew about mk9

[austere igloo]

Nail gun is exactly like those zombie apocalypse games

But it’s now like an smg in bocw

Smg pistol, if u will

[austere igloo]

U mean the m249

[rich arch]

I guess it's only fair for Activision to make it usable in zombie mode

[keen gazelle]

so i could assume you also range stack m16, sks, fennec

[rich arch]

Range stack?

[keen gazelle]

cause idk about 2m and 3m on the first 2 ranges sounds

[keen gazelle]

after a certain distance (meters [m]) a guns damage start to decrease from (just an example) 30 up until 15 meters and then it drops to 25 after 15 meters

monolithic suppresser makes it so the gun stays at 30 past 15 meters

[tawny walrus]

Fennec - yes, M16 and SKS - no. What are these weird assumptions?

[austere igloo]

but it's not only usable in zombie mode

it's gonna be available on all modes

[rich arch]

Yeah I know that, but it should be buffed extra for zombie mode

[keen gazelle]

got it, range stack if it gives you 4 and 6 meters

[rich arch]

Something like with the zrg for example

Piercing ammo

[austere igloo]

u can technically do that

pack-a-punch exists in zombies mode

[tawny walrus]

Okay, what would you replace with monolithic suppressor then?

[keen gazelle]

tactical suppressor 🎉 🙂 although a small difference, it gives better ads time with better bullet spread

just like using light suppresor over tactical, it doesnt lose any range so why lose ads with tact

[tawny walrus]

Fennec has fast ADS speed itself. Bullet spread? You really care about it on the weapon with poor accuracy?

That doesn’t make any sense for me.

[river granite]

Vc

[rich arch]

Vc

[keen gazelle]

Vc

[austere igloo]

Vc

[rich arch]

Vc?

[rich arch]

Isn't fennec a better hip fire weapon anyway?

[tawny walrus]

I don’t think so.

[austere igloo]

does anyone else think m249 is pkm 2.0?

with better mobility & whatnot

[tawny walrus]

I didn’t try it yet, but I’m sure that you can make an AR with that.

[ruby iris]

It's alright

4 tap range is dogshit tho

At least it can inf 5 tap

Problem is uhh

Bv

You can make it into a more passive chopper/hades, but that's it

The ar conversion is very weird

[austere igloo]

I have tried it

[tawny walrus]

I don’t understand the point of adding bullet velocity to the game.

[austere igloo]

guys I wanna ask

[keen gazelle]

realism from mw games

even tho codm is closer to black ops being an arcade shooter ._.

[austere igloo]

Look at these two, and tell are they completely different? Or similar in some way?

Because I got a mf telling me that m249 is not pkm 2.0

[keen gazelle]

you showed the same pic twice?

[austere igloo]

That’s my point

& yet the mf was telling m249 isn’t like pkm at all like wut

[ruby iris]

It's not

Rimmed cartridge

Anyways

[austere igloo]

Somebody should make the m249 build for bucky’s winter soldier

Since that guy uses the m249 in his movies

[timber idol]

That's horrendous

Ranger foregrip

[river granite]

what’s wrong with it?

[keen gazelle]

for being a close range smg, youre building it for recoil control

which isnt always bad imo but for this gun, the closer the better (sx9 has ar ttk at range, qxr doesnt) and you wanna be building it for close range for the best outcome

[river granite]

Oh

[rich arch]

💀

[timber idol]

Just change the foregrip for a sup probably

That is not a long range gun so u don't need recoil Control

[eternal idol]

My current rank in MP is Pro 2. Grandmaster 3 is a long way ahead. It will be tiring and hard to grind. However the Grau skin gotten as a reward will be really cool.

But that Grau skin is kewl

[timber idol]

No stock over RTC assault

[timber idol]

The Grammer is not grammering

[eternal idol]

Haha. Let me change that, real quick.

[timber idol]

Kek

.

[river granite]

What’s wrong with that?

[timber idol]

Use no stock

Very RTC assault

[eternal idol]

@timber idol check the messages now. They should be grammatically correct and to the point.

[timber idol]

Wait what happened to my pic perms🤣

I was going to send my M13 Smith @river granite

[river granite]

Oh

[narrow glen]

@river granite, 6 Server Rank

[timber idol]

Why can't I send wtf

Haha

[timber idol]

Go to dm

[narrow glen]

@timber idol, 31 Server Rank

[placid onyx]

Some icr build for mp?

[tawny walrus]

No.

[timber idol]

Slap in a red dot

[timber idol]

Remove that laser

[timber idol]

The grip as well is bad

That's generally just bad

[eternal idol]

I want that skin

[timber idol]

Then get to gm3 lmao

[river granite]

Rank up

[eternal idol]

Is archangel, 50 mag, cronen thi ng, xrk thing good ?

[timber idol]

You should try tectonics smith

[timber idol]

That grip tape is bad

[timber idol]

Mag is ok and archangel ig

[eternal idol]

Gib gib

[timber idol]

Cronen sniper yes

[timber idol]

Just check yt , I cant send gunsmiths here

Idk y but I don't have perms for it

[timber idol]

Lemme dm u my locus

[river granite]

Alr

[eternal idol]

Dm it pwease

[timber idol]

Alr 1 second

@eternal idol

Check your dm

[north rune]

U need passes

[little bison]

replace grip with cronen + replace mag with 50 round + replace laser with tac supressor

[little bison]

rds isnt rlly need imo has a good iron sight already

[maiden ocean]

#┃server-media-passes
Go in there and claim the pass that allows you to post in here and gunsmithing builds

[undone sandal]

id use tac supp
mono doesnt do much

[tawny walrus]

Sad.

[covert tree]

Can u help me build me a ak47 in br

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal we yee yee?

[undone sandal]

id prefer the 2nd one
5s/7s reload is wild

[ruby iris]

Coulda been worse

[ornate jackal]

Pkm clone

[ruby iris]

Nah

Chopper/hades clone

[undone sandal]

pkm 200 is 4.5s/5.25s

id take pkm reload any day

[ruby iris]

Not that much faster tbh, i rarely do empty reload with lmgs

.5 seconds slower

Still alot better than ab's reload

[ornate jackal]

Pkm faster reload time? Yikes

[ruby iris]

Half a second faster

[ornate jackal]

For 60 round tho im assuming

[ruby iris]

For 200r

[ornate jackal]

Ah

Half a second is still enough time to get cooked

[ruby iris]

.

[ornate jackal]

All ima say is im still gonna use the goat m4lmg

[ruby iris]

Man, im lowkey grateful the m249 doesnt have bv or bsa problem

[tawny walrus]

But it has bullet velocity, isn’t it?

[ruby iris]

1000m/s

Can be boosted

[tawny walrus]

That’s a good value.

[ruby iris]

Also 17 base bsa

[tawny walrus]

Maximum BSA?

[ruby iris]

Only problem is the trash base 4 tap range

[ruby iris]

17

Initial is 10

[tawny walrus]

Ah, I see.

[ruby iris]

And slow reload

Can be fixed with attachments

[tawny walrus]

Would be more understandable, if you would wrote 17 (10).

[rich arch]

I want a build for ak47 in MP

[ruby iris]

But you needa range stack with every build, so it's kinda limiting

[ruby iris]

Tac supp
Ranger barrel
Mag b
Tac laser/gran
No stock

[rich arch]

Thx 🙏

[rich arch]

I will try both and see whose work better with me thx

[ruby iris]

Mono supp + horizon/summit barrel is mandatory

[tawny walrus]

This is my alternative build.

[ruby iris]

Also mag, either one works

[tawny walrus]

60 one was really good in Warzone.

I don’t understand why so much penalty for hit flinch.

[ruby iris]

60 one is decent, but ehh, if it was a tad bit faster or had better range then ye

284ms is pretty impressive for an lmg

[tawny walrus]

I don’t like playing with passive LMGs.

So, 60 mag perfectly fits me.

[ruby iris]

Movement values kinda mid tho

Wish it had something more in line with current holger

[tawny walrus]

AR build is quite good.

[ruby iris]

You kinda need a barrel

Horizon or summit

I'd say horizon for ar build

[tawny walrus]

[ruby iris]

18.8m 4 tap vs 23.2m 4 tap

[ruby iris]

[tawny walrus]

Mk9 has infinite 5 stk range.

[ruby iris]

If you play aggro, you kinda need to boost that 4 tap range

Else it'll kill very slow 20 to 30-40m

[tawny walrus]

But what if I hit a head once?

[ruby iris]

Can you hit head once consistently every gunfight?

[tawny walrus]

Not guaranteed, but technically, I can.

[ruby iris]

I'd rather not take the chance

[tawny walrus]

What about comparison vs. Holger?

[ruby iris]

Holger is more passive imo

But at the same time, it has better strafe

Holger is more strafing at range and spam ammo

Mk9 is more rushing from headglitch to headglitch

[tawny walrus]

So, Bruen is a new aggro LMG, right?

[ruby iris]

kinda

It fills the same niche as hades

[ruby iris]

*similar

[tawny walrus]

No one uses Hades.

Because of bad recoil.

[ruby iris]

More ppl should use hades tbh

Very underrated aggro lmg

[tawny walrus]

@ruby iris Good for SnD? Or should I change something for better mobility?

[ruby iris]

Long barrel on flex ars kinda weird ngl

I'd say swap no stock to custom strike

[tawny walrus]

But there’s nothing to replace with.

[ruby iris]

And play main ar

[tawny walrus]

And I don’t want play passive.

[ruby iris]

[tawny walrus]

Realistically, I would use the standard AR build, but it has laser.

God, why AMAX is so poor on attachments…

[ruby iris]

Try mono, short barrel and flinch stock

A bit slower than average, but still fast enough for aggro

[ruby iris]

Ye, like that

[tawny walrus]

There are two hit flinch stocks.

[ruby iris]

Man, this slow mode sucks

[ruby iris]

Use custom strike, gatekeeper too slow for flex ar imo

[tawny walrus]

Alright. Thank you.

AMAX needs to be buffed.

It’s losing in accuracy against the most assault rifles.

[lilac ginkgo]

It is

I never touch the amax

[tawny walrus]

Funny how it dominates in BR though.

[ruby iris]

Speaking of br

Mk9 is good in br iirc

[tawny walrus]

Perhaps.

Bullet velocity is good.

[ruby iris]

The consistent ttk is on par with s36 iirc

Tho it has less potentials

[tawny walrus]

Hello, Verdansk.

[ruby iris]

Replace strike fg and you got a good build

To strike stock

[ruby iris]

Not the worst

Pretty nice for fpp

[tawny walrus]

Too bad that monolithic suppressor doesn’t boost bullet velocity like in MW19.

Devs should change that.

[winter cedar]

Hiii, what criteria i should focus on BR gunsmith

[tawny walrus]

Accuracy and range.

[eternal idol]

Man. Using the Grau and still losing

[tawny walrus]

RIP

[eternal idol]

Im gold, not my ss. Keep losing in pro 3. No Grau skin for me

[tired grove]

That looks like a cursed build tho

[tired grove]

Thats ok

[ruby iris]

Use a better gun, grau is meh

[dusk egret]

You needs increase mobility on that

[tawny walrus]

You’re late.

[digital needle]

New LMG .. Time to quit this game again.

[tawny walrus]

Why?

[digital needle]

LMG is the most Annoying gun category.

Just camp at somewhere with Tripmine and you're untouchable

[ocean narwhal]

only in snd

[lucid bison]

Guys

Is this channel official?

[ocean narwhal]

yes

[lucid bison]

There is no give away?

[rich arch]

Anyone got a deadly bizon build?

[wary tulip]

Mono supp
No stock / Skeleton stock
Owc Tac laser / large caliber
Extended light barrel
Granulated grip

[rich arch]

i will surely try that

recently maxed it out

it was actually today and i decided to grind cold

[wary tulip]

That’s great

[rich arch]

ik. i feel like when i first started i didnt know about weapon leveling but i luckily got my friend that helped me a lot and we go same classes so we always play together and he helped me buy these crates n stuff to get maxed weapons

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 9 Server Rank

[trim dock]

Same with snipers

[trim dock]

U seem to be an old player 🤔 can i ask u something on ur dm about codm...?

I can't do it here coz it's in a pic😪

[wary tulip]

Nice

[wary tulip]

sure

[tawny isle]

no need for large cal

[wary tulip]

Yea thats why I suggested laser too

[old comet]

is bsa still promenent in gun or did it get buffed over the last 2 years??

[tawny isle]

how do you mean

[old comet]

like ads bullet spread

[peak brook]

LC on bizon nerfs it's potential at range a bit. It's arguably more beneficial if you get used to running it without LC

[ruby iris]

Idea:
Instead of reducing the range, lc should increase it, but you only get 35-40 rounds per mag, and change the model to a standard mag

[peak brook]

That would actually be viable

[ruby iris]

[peak brook]

Would match the irl counterpart of the gun

[ruby iris]

Idk why but that long barrel + zenitco combo furniture looks so good

[ornate jackal]

Is large cal actually bad

[ruby iris]

[ornate jackal]

Ive been using it this entire time

[ruby iris]

On bizon? Kinda

[peak brook]

I have to agree it looks bad ass..but I also have to ask that you delete this. Unfortunately this channel is for codm gunsmithing related content only..sorry

[ruby iris]

Okie

[real crescent]

[peak brook]

[limpid raptor]

what's the best cx9 loadout?

gotta say I'm really hating this gun so far, so maybe a better loadout will help

[knotty cobalt]

What wa sit

[peak brook]

PP19 airsoft in traditional spetsnaz tactical outfit. Was pretty impressive.

[knotty cobalt]

W

I need to see it

[unreal gale]

did the new update drop yet? with the cx9 buff

[peak brook]

Ping Ricey he should be more than happy to dm you the pic

[peak brook]

Uh..idk I haven't been on yet

[viscid belfry]

which?

[unreal gale]

just the new one, you know, the cx9 buff

there is only 1 update with cx9 buff

[viscid belfry]

which buff? i have a problem with memories (fr)

[knotty cobalt]

@ruby iris dm me the pic

[dusty heart]

Yep

Cx9 fire

[rich arch]

Who here likes the M16 ??

Do you guys think that the bruen MK9 will meta??

[clear girder]

the sx9 is so cool fair and balanced

[ornate jackal]

Basically every gun added is meta for like a week then depending how good it actually is people just discard it or keep using it like its the best gun ever

[lethal rune]

true

[ornate jackal]

But with the existence of holger, rpd, and ul i dont think it’ll thrive for longer than 3 weeks top

[rich arch]

Yes, in game update

[ruby iris]

Nah

[hollow panther]

cx9 got buffed? tf

[ruby iris]

Money

-activision blizzard/timi

[hollow panther]

makes sense gotta get those buys

[unreal gale]

do you have the mythic?

[dusty heart]

Yep

[unreal gale]

Nice

@ruby iris is the meta build still the same?

[rich arch]

LMGs are difficult to balance

Mythic SKS when

[ruby iris]

Think so

[austere igloo]

fuck that, give us mythic chicom

[rich arch]

[kindred estuary]

feels quite ass

[austere igloo]

meh

m249 will most prolly be just shadow meta at best

[ruby iris]

The weapon is *okay*, it's basically just another chopper/hades clone, this time more passive, the 60r ar conversion also isnt really worth it since it essentially turns your gun into a main ar with the range profile of a flex ar

You also need to range stack with it

In every build

7/10, coulda been better, but coulda been a lot worse

[austere igloo]

& here my impression was that m249 is just a pkm with more mobility & stability

aka pkm 2.0

[tawdry vault]

Best lmg for snd?

[unreal gale]

I like the AK-47

[tawdry vault]

I dont know if you're responding to my question or not

[ruby iris]

Pkm prolly

For wallbang

If you dont wallbang, use ul

[tawdry vault]

Alr

[ornate jackal]

Unbiased take m4lmg and ul

Ul for ar feel and increased range + ttk and its suppressor is super light compared to most lmgs

M4lmg is kinda propaganda but id use it over rpd and pkm in snd cause the faster ads and more suppressed gun shots with good wallbanging capabilities

[shadow briar]

until you need to reload yes

[tawdry vault]

It depends

[ruby iris]

It's just another chopper/hades clone, if you consider those meta then yes, mk9 is meta

[shadow briar]

nvm tried it in BR, kinda dogshit

the reload is so slow i cant justify using it over any other lmg or even ar really

[maiden ocean]

The 60 mag is really good for me

Works wonders in mp

[digital needle]

AR mag conversion exist

[maiden ocean]

With a decent ttk

[digital needle]

[maiden ocean]

Mhm

[digital needle]

9.0 base BSA in BR

Crazy ( Most of AR, LMG has 11 bsa )

[shadow briar]

even if you run 200 round custom mag and gold stendo mag, why not just run pkm and get same dps for less bullets

or say fck it and take the -20dps and run rpd infinite ammo to actually have a practical way of fulfilling the lmg fantasy

[digital needle]

Mobility

[shadow briar]

knife

[digital needle]

Never run meele as secondary

[shadow briar]

you have a free knife the whole match

why not use it

[digital needle]

Unfair advantage

[austere igloo]

it's okay

it's not good but also not bad

[tawdry vault]

I didn't find it anywhere in br:(

[austere igloo]

like 5/10 at best

[austere igloo]

u should be able to

[tawdry vault]

Played 7 matches; not once did I find it

[austere igloo]

did you update codm?

[tawdry vault]

Yes

[austere igloo]

[tawdry vault]

I got the cool background and alll

[austere igloo]

what map are you playing on?

[shadow briar]

rn i think it and holger are only lmgs

[austere igloo]

nah there's rpd too

[tawdry vault]

I was doing isolated for the clan node

[austere igloo]

that's weird

[shadow briar]

ah, havent found one yet

[austere igloo]

everywhere I go the m249 is all around me

[shadow briar]

like 5-6 m249s and one holger

in 3 matches

[austere igloo]

all the lmgs I see is literally m249s

[tawdry vault]

Lemme do one more game, see if I can find it

[austere igloo]

with 1 or 2 holgers/rpd here & there

[austere igloo]

I think it also depends on the area you land at

some areas tend to have certain types of guns more than other areas

[tawdry vault]

I initially landed at the weird dome city

[austere igloo]

that's New Vision City mate

not weird dome city

[tawdry vault]

Oh, Im sorry that I cant remember a name from a map I almost never play

Blackout is such a better map

[austere igloo]

yesterday I landed at ecology lab & launch base...

everywhere I went there's m249s in every corner

[austere igloo]

you don't play on isolated?

[austere igloo]

that's arguable

I don't like blackout's too widely stretched terrain of a map

way too out in the open

[shadow briar]

oh look my first rpd

[austere igloo]

ecology lab is rich in loot regardless whether it's orange (high tier) or not lol

[tawdry vault]

Almost every time I've played isolated in ranks higher than elite, Ive gone into rank protection from losing streaks; on the contrary, I got to gm5 from gm3 in blackout and Alcatraz

[austere igloo]

because isolated is the objectively better map & that's why there're more players

blackout has fewer real players because of what I mentioned earlier, and lobbies there are often 89% bots

which is why it's easy to climb rank in br on blackout

I won't comment on alcatraz though, that one is pretty self-explanatory

[tawdry vault]

Alcatraz has recently been having a lot of bots, and I personally love that cause that means Im getting at minimum 16 kills

[austere igloo]

Idk...I kinda get tired of bot lobbies after a while

like maybe 1 or 2 is fine...but getting 5 bot lobbies in a row? that is boring me mate

& whenever I get real players in alcatraz...it's always the same shit

everyone is running shotguns & whatnot...it's no longer a matter of skill, it's just who can spam the most bullets in the shortest time...

[tawdry vault]

I typically play during the last 5 or so hours, cause thats when people are typically done with the tourney, which leads to heavier bot matches; I use this to easily rack up kills, and fly through the tasks and get the rewards faster; never do the mp tourney cause it lags my phone too much to even get more than 6 kills

Im lazy, what can I say

[austere igloo]

u literally don't even need to aim in alcatraz, so long as there's someone in front of u & u hold down the trigger button u can win fingers crossed

u don't even have to aim down in some cases

[austere igloo]

yea mp tournies are dogshit anyway

[tawdry vault]

I panic shoot, so aiming is a must if I dont want to be downed from ai

[austere igloo]

They’ve added a new tab in the mp loadout menu

[shadow briar]

for ground war breacj right?

[tawdry vault]

What???

[austere igloo]

I still can't wrap my head around that mode

[tawdry vault]

Hold on

[austere igloo]

ground war breach is like dom & hardpoint? or patrol? but in br?

[shadow briar]

i havent looked at the rules for it yet

all i know is it stole our BR map

WOAH theres upgrade trees for this

[austere igloo]

yea there is

[shadow briar]

some of the high level upgrades sound potentially REALLY good

Symbiosis 3 might be STUPID

[austere igloo]

what's that for?

[shadow briar]

full heal every 5 sec if theres a teammate around

either that or when healing allies you also get healed

[austere igloo]

damn

[shadow briar]

unsure which

[austere igloo]

I need to get that

[shadow briar]

but a full team of rescues could have a heal party and that + fast res could make pushing CRAZY

[austere igloo]

broooo

[shadow briar]

technicial also getting +30% explosive damage is interesting

[austere igloo]

that's more than broken holy shit

[austere igloo]

technician u mean

[shadow briar]

yeah

theyre the only one with a base grenade (from what I can see), so imagine a +30% damage cluster nade on a hardpoint

[austere igloo]

[shadow briar]

pogging AND champing rn

only disappointment from what I can see is the weapon selection

117 is ok, would like more mobility in the build. DMR amax is... a weapon in the game, and hs0 is (minus wounding) a not awful 1tap weapon

[austere igloo]

u can only choose out of yr first 3 br custom weapons

which sucks tbh

[shadow briar]

damn really?

[austere igloo]

yea

I've tried equipping other weapons...it doesn't register

[shadow briar]

guess i just exposed my BR weapons then LOL

[austere igloo]

I mean u could change them from yr BR loadout selection

[shadow briar]

wait no

[austere igloo]

that way u can choose them in the breach tab

[shadow briar]

those arent my BR weapons

my first 3 are 117, xpr and amax dmr, but in breach it shows as 117, amax dmr and hs0

hso isnt even one of my br loadouts rn, i replaced it with hs2 to experiment

[austere igloo]

wait what?

so how does the breach loadout actually work LOL

bcoz on mine...my first 3 weapons are, LK24, S36 & QXR...& that's what they showed on my breach tab

[shadow briar]

no fkn clue…

[austere igloo]

[tawdry vault]

Wonder if we're gonna keep the breach thing as like a completely new gamemode or its just there for a little

[shadow briar]

probably just like zombies. gonna stay, but be abandoned after 2 months then not touched for 3 years

[austere igloo]

just hope it doesn't get the zombies treatment

[austere igloo]

hell naww plsss

[tawdry vault]

It might get more treatment than zombies, at least something new with it each series

[austere igloo]

hope so

[shadow briar]

i am BIG stupid

you can just swap out and edit GWBr weapons like normal lol

got lk and zrg on all 4, dunno what to drop as #3

[austere igloo]

wait how?

[shadow briar]

might do holger or SAW once its out

[shadow briar]

tap on the gun

[tawdry vault]

Tapping the weapon

[austere igloo]

I went into my gun selection tab & i tried to switch guns but it didn't work

[austere igloo]

I did

[shadow briar]

in the GWBr page

[austere igloo]

I tapped on the gun like u said

[tawdry vault]

It takes a few tries

[shadow briar]

probably gonna run SAW once its released like tomorrow

[austere igloo]

Look

It doesn’t work

[shadow briar]

it does for me?

[tawdry vault]

It doesn't work the first time

[shadow briar]

iono what you broke

[austere igloo]

I broke nothing

[austere igloo]

Nani??

[tawdry vault]

Gotta go back, leave that menu; then return to it and try again

It works second time, guaranteed

[austere igloo]

Oh wait

You must equip the weapon first to even put attachments on it

fuck me I'm dense

I kept trying to put attachments on the gun without equipping it first

stupid me

[tawdry vault]

Yeah, in any other menu it auto equips the gun kf you place an attachment

Weird

[shadow briar]

holger vs saw is weird tbh

[austere igloo]

why tf does it work like that though

it makes no sense

[tawdry vault]

Probably a bug or smth

[shadow briar]

saw has better dps, ads and bsa, holger has better move speed and reloads

[tawdry vault]

Or maybe the auto equip is the bug

Tf is the saw?

[valid grove]

Does anyone have any good attachments for razorback?

[shadow briar]

is the holger... not the best lmg anymore?

[shadow briar]

Bruen MX9 = M249 SAW = SAW

[tawdry vault]

Holger is... Holger; aint nothing else to it

[valid grove]

True

[shadow briar]

i dont have anything for razorback cause i hate the irons

[valid grove]

Oh okay but thx

[shadow briar]

used the gun once and never again

[austere igloo]

I just call it M249

LOL

[valid grove]

I'm currently making all the weapons gold and I've noticed that the weapon is actually quite good

[shadow briar]

saw one syllable

why use many word when one word do trick

[tawdry vault]

I just call it the actual name

[austere igloo]

I was introduced to the gun as M249 so

[valid grove]

I already have all the shotguns, now its time for the NA-45 🤮

[austere igloo]

I'm sticking to that

@shadow briar these are my first 3 guns for br customs

[shadow briar]

holger > m249 at 20 to ~35ish m for shots to kill (assuming ads build with mono supp on each)

[austere igloo]

but in breach I've swapped out the qxr

[shadow briar]

lk my beloved

[valid grove]

Oh okay

[austere igloo]

This is what I’m running now for breach

[austere igloo]

Lk is underrated in br

[valid grove]

Yeah?

[austere igloo]

that ar is even more stable than the m4

[austere igloo]

I hardly see anyone using it except me

[shadow briar]

im running LK, AV ZRG and probably either pdw or m249

[austere igloo]

I'm thinking should I change my smg custom from qxr to something else?

[valid grove]

Im only playing ak47 frostbrand or ak117 or Oden+ shotgun/sniper

[shadow briar]

i dont know the BR smg meta tbh

i just like pdw for 0 recoil and decent mag and range

[valid grove]

I don't even know what the cx9's buff is like

[shadow briar]

i might use the cx9 meme build for move speed

[shadow briar]

thanks for reminding me the cx9 is in the game

[valid grove]

the mythic is annoying because of the voice but whatever, I have it

[austere igloo]

how good is it

[austere igloo]

u can see it under the balance changes

[valid grove]

Nah Not rlly

[shadow briar]

4tap chest to 26m, 6 tap to 40m

[austere igloo]

Yes u can, click this icon & it will bring u to this page

[austere igloo]

they clearly show you what has been changed

@valid grove

[austere igloo]

jeesus that's op

[valid grove]

Bro i know that

[narrow glen]

@valid grove, 11 Server Rank

[shadow briar]

on a 50 round mag, 26m ttk of 240ms and 40m of 400ms

[austere igloo]

then why'd u respond with "Nah Not Rlly"?

[valid grove]

I gonna Show u a pic

[austere igloo]

pic of what?

[shadow briar]

thats assuming chest/stomach shots

itll 2chest/arms 2stomach/legs up to 26m with no move speed penalties

also only considering 4 attachs cause idk if i should run fg or perk for BR

[shadow briar]

thats MP kills sorry, br would be that x3

[austere igloo]

These are my last 2 guns for br customs

[valid grove]

There is no before/after

[austere igloo]

did you even update the game?

[valid grove]

Ofc

[austere igloo]

then why is it showing like that?

did u click on the icon that I showed

[shadow briar]

tap the scales in the bottom left

[valid grove]

That is what i mean

[valid grove]

Okay

[austere igloo]

did u tap the one I circled?

[shadow briar]

not the two arrows, needs to be the scales

[valid grove]

Thx

[austere igloo]

U clicked on this didn’t u? (the one in the circle)

[valid grove]

Yeah😅

[shadow briar]

ooooh theyre buffing cx9 50 drum mag?

[austere igloo]

I have told u it's the one on the left (I even circled it)

[austere igloo]

right here

[shadow briar]

only -2% move instead of -4%

[austere igloo]

apparently yea

[austere igloo]

cx9 def gon' be meta for sure

[shadow briar]

and removing move speed pen from 30 completely?

[valid grove]

Damage increase also

[austere igloo]

apparently striker45 got buffed too

[shadow briar]

theyre adding 2m range to striker huuuuuge

[austere igloo]

Buff to dmg range yea

Apparently ppsh got buffed too (bsa)

[shadow briar]

i think thats recoil pattern not bsa

[austere igloo]

right

I meant that

[valid grove]

Do u own any mythic and legys?

[shadow briar]

msmc gets the same treatment

[austere igloo]

Even this forgotten gun got buffed too (lateral recoil)

[shadow briar]

leggy manta ray and nothing else

[austere igloo]

Yes

Meanwhile pdw got nerfed

[shadow briar]

only recoil

[austere igloo]

but still...it's a nerf

[valid grove]

what do you think about the ak47 frostbrand in br?

[shadow briar]

and aks got range buff 2m

[austere igloo]

the buff they gave to pdw last season was pointless

[valid grove]

how many?

[valid grove]

True😂

[austere igloo]

Check dm

[shadow briar]

buffed m4lmg 30 round mag by 20% ads speed

kinda noice

[austere igloo]

ehh but 30rnd mag on m4lmg doesn't feel right

[shadow briar]

true

also m4lmg kinda trash

the asm10 buffs got me actin up

[austere igloo]

I haven't tried asm yet

But gad damn…those are some buffs alright

reload time buff by .30s is crazy

[shadow briar]

DRH 25 round OTM might go under the radar

holy SHIT

infinite range 33 to chest

[valid grove]

?

[shadow briar]

and since it lost the ads and reload penalties that might be VIABLE

[austere igloo]

My drh loadout

[valid grove]

@austere igloo btw i own 3 accs

[shadow briar]

wait no dmg in br vs mp is different

[valid grove]

Oh wrong chat

[austere igloo]

🤯

[shadow briar]

sadge

nvm drh meta only in BR

[valid grove]

3 acc= mythic switchblade legy locus, legy msmc, legy reaper and legy m4lmg

😂

[austere igloo]

I haven't used drh in br for a long-ass time

[valid grove]

Yeah me too

[ruby iris]

Chest only?

Or chest/arms?

Viable if chest/arms
🚮 if chest only

[valid grove]

My main is mythic Oden for br

[shadow briar]

chest/arms 33 in BR

stomach/legs is 27(?)

head with gold range is 50+, chest/arms can almost hit 40

range testing says its not better than oden

sad day for drh

[ruby iris]

Just 33?

Or 33.6?

Huge if the latter

[shadow briar]

shooting in the field says 33

33 head/chest/arm 25 stomach/leg

[ruby iris]

Use the comparision page

[shadow briar]

m249 gets kinda gross too

shame the mag is capped at 250 even with 200 belt and gold mag

but gold vert recoil makes it a LASER

gold ext mag brings partial reload to 4s and empty to 5.5 ish

[austere igloo]

oh don't even bring up gold...the blue vert recoil mod alr makes the m249 beam

[shadow briar]

true

[austere igloo]

like...no kidding

[shadow briar]

its stable as shit already

at base

takes 7-8 rounds before the recoil starts taking it up without any recoil mods

[austere igloo]

yea

[shadow briar]

so mag, range precise is probably the play? unless you run a 3x then maybe vert recoil instead of prec?

[ruby iris]

[shadow briar]

60 round mag

just run gold ext mag

[ruby iris]

Downtime on 100/200r is stupid

[tawny walrus]

Agreed.

100 ms to ADS speed is a huge boost.

[austere igloo]

huh?

[tawny walrus]

60 rounds mag gives 28% to ADS speed, which reduce 100 ms.

[austere igloo]

holy shit

[odd island]

Is that a new gun

[tawny walrus]

Yes.

[tawdry vault]

Ive now tried the saw

I didn't actually kill anyone because I got ambushed by 3 teams of four and I couldn't react fast enough

First time using it, Died with zero kills

Fun day

[empty quartz]

That’s wassup

[narrow glen]

@empty quartz, 3 Server Rank

[covert tree]

Good evening everyone

[austere igloo]

br rank?

[rich arch]

[austere igloo]

good thing Im using drh now