codm-gunsmith-help

[lean frost]

Is that for BR

[fluid copper]

Both br and multi-player and ranked

[lean frost]

U cant just use the same build for BR and MP😭

Awful build for MP, mid build for BR

[fluid copper]

I'm don't normally use snipers in br I'm usually using smgs and lmgs

[lean frost]

Light supp
Stalker stock
7r mag
SoH/Fmj
Either tac laser or a scope

[fluid copper]

Thanks and ig u can tell how bad my classes are made up

[lean frost]

They look like u made them via bar stats

The stats on the right are called bar stats
They provide absolutely 0 information
The arrow points to the comparing menu, which has actual stats of a gun

[fluid copper]

I usually change it depending on how I do with it in a match

[sudden rain]

50.gs akimbo build

Degle akimbo

[austere igloo]

Admittedly yes

[austere igloo]

[sudden rain]

Why ???

[austere igloo]

Deagle no akimbo

[austere igloo]

Trash

Normal deagle better

[sudden rain]

Just ask

[austere igloo]

No akimbo deagle

Also finally

[midnight lantern]

Fr

[midnight lantern]

Akimbo deagle sucks

[sudden rain]

Bad acc ?

[austere igloo]

Do not use

[fluid copper]

Could yall rate a mp hdr class for me

[austere igloo]

Worse than akimbo fennec

[austere igloo]

Fr

[sudden rain]

[austere igloo]

?

[fluid copper]

I showed someone else here and they said it was bad I just wanted to see what yall had to say

[lean frost]

Did everyone just vanish what happened

[stray rapids]

Not good for mp

Barrel to supp

Use ads stock and that's pretty much it

Can bipod to tac laser if u want extra ads but ehh

[lean frost]

U think this viable for kilo?

[stray rapids]

Perhaps

I used it back then

Nevermind

Just use no stock

[lean frost]

No stock murders recoil

Slaughters it
Massacres it

[fresh sage]

Skill

[lean frost]

Issue

[fresh sage]

[zealous hinge]

Ayo @lean frost nub, what build do you think is good for asm10, considering brushing off the dust I have on it after I got diamond

[lean frost]

full mobility stack trust

[zealous hinge]

Fr?

[lean frost]

Mono
Light short
No stock
Mag
Tac laser
Iirc asm still uses recoil stabilization, so bsa isn't a issue

[zealous hinge]

Can tac laser be a perk or granulated then

For snd purposes

And is Branson worth

[lean frost]

And its range is too shit to compete if u run passive
and yes it can be gran/perk

[lean frost]

Nah

wait
Wrong reply

[lean frost]

Nah

[zealous hinge]

How come

[lean frost]

Third shot fires at slower interval
Too many downsdes
Not enough upsides
Big sad

[zealous hinge]

Since bsa isn’t a problem what perk is good

[zealous hinge]

[lean frost]

Probably SoH

[stray rapids]

What about long shot

[zealous hinge]

33 mag or 40 mag

[zealous hinge]

I was considering that

Boost three tap consistency

[lean frost]

i run 40 but both work

[lean frost]

Hm

[zealous hinge]

5 meters or so iirc more range?

[lean frost]

It's only 10% range but
U dont loose anything
Works

[lean frost]

5m sounds like alot for 10%

[fiery grove]

Makarov build?

[zealous hinge]

Nvm I way over estimated it

It’s like two meters

Not even

[lean frost]

I mean
U dont loose anything for it, basically abit of free range
But SoH probably better

[zealous hinge]

Big thonks

[fiery grove]

I’m very close to getting akimbo, I have everything else tho

[zealous hinge]

Complete worth the grind

Have fun

[rich arch]

Reject akimbo, embrace realism

Bruh

[lean frost]

The reload which looks like ur character just flipped the mag and magically made new bullets spawn in it:

[in reality he does swap out the mag, but still]

[sinful reef]

Full auto or interval with the makarov

[lean frost]

Both

Semi auto makarov is bad
And full auto needs the trigger to be good

[fiery grove]

So I adjusted the meta build for the makarov to feed what I think fits me, I have a RDS because honestly it’s hard to see at range with the ironsights.

[long shoal]

[austere igloo]

Ye

[long shoal]

Thats what imm dooin

[long shoal]

I only used akimbo for hipfire challenge

[austere igloo]

Which i do

[lost relic]

I use just build for hipfire accuracy and play hybrid with most of my pistols, makarov is no exception.

[dapper quest]

i used kilo and didnt liked kilo 141 iron sight which optic should i use

[lost relic]

Whichever you prefer, I think kilo irons look great and clean, though.

[dapper quest]

i dont no my accuracy decrased i started using kilo yesterday

[narrow glen]

@dapper quest, 1

[lost relic]

Optics do not change accuracy, kilo also has a nice base accuracy.

[dapper quest]

btw ur league
i am stuck t grand master 5 really want to go legendary

[lean frost]

Renneti multis are insane

[dapper quest]

which gun u use the most?

[dapper quest]

markonikov akimbo is in meta use that for now

[lean frost]

Since when did that become meta

[dapper quest]

bruh

[lost relic]

In total gameplay hours or just recently?
I think bk57 has my highest overall gameplay time, but I’m mostly using pkm for br or hbra3 for mp to get platinum on assault rifles.

[lost relic]

I love renetti.

[lean frost]

I'd consider the Mw11 meta before i consider akimbo makarovs meta

[dapper quest]

nice ur league?

[lean frost]

[lost relic]

Chess league?

[dapper quest]

before it i used j358 2 shot ...

[dapper quest]

no codm mp

[lost relic]

Master 3, I don’t play too often anymore.

[dapper quest]

oh

[lean frost]

J358> Akimbo maks
Leaves

[dapper quest]

sure 🙂

[lost relic]

With stopping power rounds, right?

[lean frost]

Normal rounds

[dapper quest]

2 shot 8 round reload

use optics

[lean frost]

Stopping power makes it a worse deagle

[lost relic]

Can’t 1-tap headshot.

[dapper quest]

yup

[dapper quest]

2 shots are super easy to land with holographic on j358

[lost relic]

I don’t use optics on sidearms expect for 4.4x on crossbow.

Just seems redundant on a close range weapon.

[dapper quest]

actually j358 has crazy spread and optic on pistol doesnt decrease fov

use j358 with holograpic

[lean frost]

Its kinda just a worse deagle
Normal J358 has great rpm

[lean frost]

thats the standard one

[dapper quest]

j358 >> .50 gs......... 50 gs is kinda overrated

[rich arch]

@lost relic Ello :3

[lost relic]

Howdy.

[dapper quest]

ur leagur?

[lean frost]

To be fair i do like j358 the most out of any pistol

[rich arch]

me who's capable of carrying legendary players using the .50

[dapper quest]

can legendary players play with grandmaster??

[lean frost]

GM 4

[rich arch]

hru

[dapper quest]

me stuck at gm 5

[rich arch]

as long as you don't have 10k+ rank exp yea

[dapper quest]

oh

[lost relic]

I recognize j358 stopping power is bad, but I still prefer to play it.

[lean frost]

Well, its not bad per say
But deagle's aim assist and higher mag cap just makes it better imo

[lost relic]

J358 has W reload animation, but Deagle looks real cool.

[lean frost]

J358 SP might be better than the deagle then
If u can deal with the mag cap

[lost relic]

It’s not better; deagle has better range and total damage potential.

[lean frost]

Alot faster for only about a 8ms slower interval, i'd say its...atleast on par

[lean frost]

Actually
J358 has more range

[lost relic]

Damn. I need to learn more about my pistols.

[lean frost]

To be fair i thought j358. SP was just a flatout worse deagle
Im really surpised how well it competes

[lost relic]

At the end of the day, playstyle and preference make the biggest dent for the casual gamer, so just use what you’re comfortable with.

[crimson bay]

At least in mp, I am of the opinion that optics and non stock mags other than caliber changes are for the weak

maybe it’s okay for extremely hungry weapons like the ots 9, but generally you can work around it

[prime finch]

With LMGs, you really don't need a bigger mag

Because you have one already

[prime finch]

I was surprised as well, still Deagles aim assist is what makes it better than J358 SP slightly better.

[lean frost]

My attempt at realistic akm

[fickle pike]

Makarov build pls

With and without akimbo

[silk dew]

Yes

[midnight lantern]

But not top 5k

[undone sandal]

dunno why you would want to use pistols past 15m but oke

could use it as a follow up to a hitmarker

[keen gazelle]

im very glad this was said and brought up

truly the handling of the gun makes a difference

[lost relic]

Been picking up shorty more often recently, as never has that statement felt more prevalent than now.

[keen gazelle]

also does the mac10 need a barrel for range or no

[lost relic]

Yeah, most builds add a little bit of range from taskforce barrel or cavalry if you don’t want the recoil penalty.

[spice scaffold]

what app can i use to record my mobile game without recording my actual mic

[undone sandal]

depends if your device supports it

some don't

[spice scaffold]

i have a techno spark 8c

[lost relic]

Just a friendly suggestion, using combat stock on cbr may provide some comfortable mobility without costing too much accuracy or dmg range.

[spice scaffold]

idk

[uneven anchor]

[brave flume]

Thats my trial loadout

[uneven anchor]

both are fucking ass

[keen gazelle]

do i need it tho, will it affect my ttk if i hit all of my shots

[brave flume]

Expain

What would you run?

[lost relic]

Dunno, I’m not an smg guy.

[keen gazelle]

damn

[lost relic]

Building for mobility may improve weapon flexibility and cater to more aggressive combat.

[uneven anchor]

no, im good

[keen gazelle]

@uneven anchor

build is gun?

lmk

[uneven anchor]

I-

[keen gazelle]

ask pls

lemme explain what goes on thruout my brain

[lean frost]

Does branson's fast burst reset instantly after u stop firing?

[uneven anchor]

agency
task
light stock with the strafe
mag
laster tac/ striker

use, do not explain

[keen gazelle]

for otis?

[uneven anchor]

otussy

[keen gazelle]

how does this help if all i want is sprint speed

bro doesnt know abt personal builds

[undone sandal]

no

[uneven anchor]

I forgor the 2 light stocks exist

[brave flume]

I was thinking that but the Steady stock makes tons of my recoil disappear

[uneven anchor]

if thats the case use this

[keen gazelle]

stfo or wtv its called over patrol >

[uneven anchor]

thats the highest sprint build in the game

[keen gazelle]

im looking for sprint

wait what

[uneven anchor]

bro

[keen gazelle]

dejame ver

oh i tried liberator

kills the bsa tbh

cant get kills from 15m anymore wothout dumping my mag

[undone sandal]

use patrol fg if ur aiming for max sprint

[uneven anchor]

sfod decreases movement speed which effects sprint

[uneven anchor]

true, just drop agency for laser tac

[keen gazelle]

how about that

[undone sandal]

there's no horizontal recoil on ots so u don't need to worry about the loss recoil control from sfod fg

[keen gazelle]

i learned something new, i thiught it was just the bigger sprint was better

i didnt think movment speed was a factor

bottom is with patrol btw

[keen gazelle]

not worried abt recoil but i tried liberal barrel and the bsa goes 📉📉

[undone sandal]

movement speed affects both sprint n strafe

[uneven anchor]

[keen gazelle]

i thiught i was just base walking soeed and such

[lost relic]

Reduced hit flinch and horizontal recoil do aid the cbr in long-term gunfights, but at the cost of crucial ads speed, as strafing will make you harder to hit and therefore giving you an edge in combat. Some players may choose to value this mobility over long-range stability.

[undone sandal]

it affects everything

[keen gazelle]

i learned something new

[uneven anchor]

7.25 sprint ots
7.26 sprint melee

[keen gazelle]

LETS GOO

[uneven anchor]

Literally melee sprint, epic

[undone sandal]

u need to use liberator tho to get 7.25m/s

[keen gazelle]

i just learned abt sprint speed and its my new fav way to build the mac, otis and the lapa

[keen gazelle]

oh what bruh

[uneven anchor]

yeah

[brave flume]

Makes sense

[keen gazelle]

im trying not to cause then id have to use owc laser😭

[lean frost]

So it has a interval?

[keen gazelle]

idk, in my experience with liberal barrel, cant beam past 15m

[uneven anchor]

Bsa bad trash on libruhlator

[keen gazelle]

^^ thats what i mean

ill see how it goes with owc laser

this seems to fit

but wow idk how ima do with 20

id def give up the muzzle hut i dint want to

[uneven anchor]

swap agency for mag

[keen gazelle]

thats the only way to make this work but i cant

[uneven anchor]

rip

[keen gazelle]

ive thought of 30 different ways around this, i think ima have tk swap the muzzle you guys😔

[uneven anchor]

loud enjoyers

big or go home

[keen gazelle]

no u fr saved me with the foregrip tho

[undone sandal]

branson isn't a burst but first few shots have very low fire interval then gradually go back to normal asm rpm

[keen gazelle]

istg i just did +10 is bigger than +6

[lost relic]

Me walking home:

[keen gazelle]

gotta change all my damn cold war gunsmith builds now

[uneven anchor]

wat

[undone sandal]

you can technically shoot one and only one bullet from branson

[keen gazelle]

now that i dont need the knife, anybody want to suggest anything, mind you i use this both for respawns and snd

[undone sandal]

d13 pls

[uneven anchor]

fhj

[keen gazelle]

kus

[lost relic]

Actually a good suggestion, use fhj for snd instead.

[lean frost]

Im asking if, lets say u tapfire with it, will the shots always have a fast interval since the branson's rapidfire resets immediately or is there a interval of sorts

i don know how to word that better

[keen gazelle]

cat since youre here

do i need barrel on mac10 to keep its ttk at range?

[undone sandal]

think of it like a normal full auto and not as a burst gun

[uneven anchor]

taskforce helps with that

[undone sandal]

branson resets when you stop firing

[uneven anchor]

mac 10 ttk and bv not be bussin at range

[lost relic]

man in dumb

[timid citrus]

Guys give me a polar opposite gunsmith build

[undone sandal]

if you tap too quick then you might end up continuing the past shots

[uneven anchor]

restarted ☠️

[keen gazelle]

looks like for the lapa, sfod is better

[lean frost]

im getting different answers
Uhh
So if u tapfire the shots will always fire at the fast interval

[undone sandal]

perhaps

[lean frost]

Correct?
assuming u dont tapfire too fast

[keen gazelle]

barrel for lapa?

[lean frost]

@uneven anchor i have a proposal

[uneven anchor]

Wo

[timid citrus]

Guys any one have a polar opposite gunsmith

[uneven anchor]

Yes 💍

[timid citrus]

[keen gazelle]

the other under barrel only gives +4 instead of 6 soo its like .2 less but 🤷‍♂️

[lean frost]

No not that kind of proposal u idiot
Tapfire Asm with branson

[uneven anchor]

fk i thought we were gonna run away together and start a happy family

[timid citrus]

Thats a ak

Not the m4

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

Tapfire the asm

[keen gazelle]

wdym polar opposite

[timid citrus]

Idiot

[undone sandal]

that's what everyone thought of back then

[lean frost]

what does polar opposite mean

[uneven anchor]

might as well hold, tapping consistently is like

[undone sandal]

tapfiring asm

[timid citrus]

Polar opposite for the m4 skin epic

[undone sandal]

u might as well use sks if ur tap firing like that lol

[timid citrus]

M4 has a goated iron sight with the epic skin polar opposite

[uneven anchor]

no, i tried. Its not practical

[lean frost]

Well thats absolutely true
🛌

[uneven anchor]

ohhh

[keen gazelle]

did you see

[uneven anchor]

yeah lape weir

[undone sandal]

branson is meh

[keen gazelle]

what barrel

[timid citrus]

You guys are idiots

[uneven anchor]

chad compact enjoyers
(use ranger )

[undone sandal]

prolly ranger barrel or no barrel

[lean frost]

I thought tapfiring might make it relevant
But
It didn't

[uneven anchor]

ranger/ no barrel

[undone sandal]

tapfiring doesn't remove its negative leg multis

[lean frost]

Val gives plot armor

[lean frost]

We dont talk about how they butchered Branson 😭

[uneven anchor]

Kreuger, asm will never be real

[lean frost]

Short barrel

[lean frost]

Atleast it still uses recoil stabilization
I think

[uneven anchor]

short barrel lapa

[undone sandal]

bro fr said short barrel on lapa

[lean frost]

Val will be real tho

[uneven anchor]

this is more copium than my dream of spending my life with you

[lean frost]

[undone sandal]

branson isn't worth
just use light barrel

[lean frost]

No
Recoil stabilization allows u to mobility stack it and be fine
Cant do that with any other 3 shot AR

[uneven anchor]

what the fuck

this is copium of the highest order

[undone sandal]

you can't mobility stack on a barrel that fucks up mobility

that's like using marksman + ranger fg n using nostock to "counteract" its mobility cons

[lean frost]

i was talking about with short barrel

Wait
Whats Asm's bsa

I cant figure out how Asm works

[undone sandal]

19 or 6.73

[uneven anchor]

it doesnt

[lean frost]

And it doesn't change with attachments right?

If u mobility stack it, it stays same
Right?

[uneven anchor]

cougar stupid?
Just like me fr 🥺

[undone sandal]

that's a major cope

[lean frost]

no asm still mid
Im just asking how it works

[uneven anchor]

what would we call our child 👉👈

[undone sandal]

5.93 with mono light short nostock taclaser

[lean frost]

Bsa is affected?
Im devastated

[undone sandal]

-9.2% from tac laser isn't gonna fully cancel out the +27.6% cons from mono light short and nostock

[lean frost]

I thought recoil stabilization means that worse bsa= worse recoil but bsa itself isn't affected

[uneven anchor]

what

[lean frost]

what

[uneven anchor]

chicken butt

[undone sandal]

lol

[delicate latch]

Whats thw best grip?

[lean frost]

Plot Armor

[undone sandal]

plot armor = shit enemies

[lean frost]

True

[uneven anchor]

As val will never be real

[lean frost]

It will be real

[boreal owl]

very stealthy

[keen gazelle]

below mid with branson

you cant achieve its 1 burst ttk because you deadass need to hit chest shots or something

[keen gazelle]

depends what gun

[runic marsh]

How are you going to bring back a draw for one of the better legendaries and not give it a little buff

[pseudo token]

So your basically asking for them to milk money out of people

[runic marsh]

thats their job

[stray rapids]

Hell yeah!

[wise steeple]

anybody got a good wild fire M16 loadout?

[stray rapids]

Weird ass emoji

Is that a dat

Or a cog

[vernal nimbus]

Had to delete before mods see

[tawny walrus]

Integrated suppressor barrel
Strike stock
Wild Fire
Tactical laser
Any magazine

[rich arch]

has anyone seen a sniper shotgun in br?

i mean this

[runic marsh]

You think optic is better for wildfire or r u against it?

[stray rapids]

Generally yes

But i like irons

[tawny walrus]

I’m not using optic.

[runic marsh]

Ive never used m16 seriously or ever used an optic if it wasnt to test it but id make an exception for m16 at least to start out/ get optimal build

Going to try out w/without maybe ill stop disliking m16

[brazen dagger]

straight up bussin

[keen gale]

[lime meteor]

which perks should i should for smgs in snd?

should i use*

[brazen dagger]

skulker/lightweight
quick fix/gung ho/thoughness
dead silence

[boreal owl]

High alert

[cosmic vessel]

Who pinged me

[runic marsh]

since everyone ignores the issue with codms prices anyways, them rereleasing skins/300$ to max out a gun, i dont see how its any different if they rereleased this legendary and gave it a buff simultaneously, if anything its better, people are more likely to enjoy the skin if it can at least compete with meta weapons

Im evil

Only legendaries that most people dont like (that they didnt make enough money off of, so they rereleased to milk it while keeping us in our place )

nothing wrong with being f2p, i genuinely think theyre above me for the most part

Same thing with spending an absurd amount of money it makes me happy

Having rare/large collection (I don’t really have one but it’s decent) just gives serotonin that you can only get in other places where you gamble but since I’m not old enough or smart enough to not waste my money until then here I am

[brazen dagger]

alcatraz is so fun

[cosmic vessel]

Alcatraz is hell

I got soloed cus my team left immediately after getting killed

[boreal owl]

So fun I can’t win a single match

[cosmic vessel]

Very fun indeed

[prime finch]

Well, Rebirth island is just renamed Alcatraz island as far as I know

So no really. Rebirth island/Alcatraz/Mob of the Dead are based of Alcatraz island

[austere igloo]

Fucking hell

This was the enemy had

[prime finch]

OOF size: MAXIMUM

[austere igloo]

Meanwhile my side:

[prime finch]

Nice

[austere igloo]

I got mvp with a single makarov…while the akimbo makarov users didnt

[prime finch]

Interesting...

[austere igloo]

proof that akimbo makarov is inferior

[prime finch]

Well it depends on the user

[austere igloo]

single makarov all the way

[austere igloo]

Dude, it was shipment…

Doesn’t matter what u use

[prime finch]

Still...

[austere igloo]

Shipment is a pain in the ass for any gun

[prime finch]

Literally

[austere igloo]

any gun is literally op in shipment

yes, including u, stupid disc gun

[prime finch]

Since you're here, may you give me PDW and PPsH

Loadout

[midnight lantern]

Ooh

Nice

Makes cool sound while firing too

I met one used in ranked yesterday

Guns pretty good

How do u get wings on that thing? Does it depends on kills?

Id say the ots is on par with qq9 if not greater

Oh

Character is nice in the draw too

Ye

Ooh nice

Which one u got

Oooh

The latest one in vault

The carbon cut locus

[prime finch]

Can somebody PPsH-41 and PDW-57 build for MP?

[swift pebble]

Outlaw build please

[cosmic vessel]

I am now in GM4 guys

Also

[spice jewel]

apparently Ali is a chinese cartoon character for kids

who knew that he would be included in a game about guns

[brazen dagger]

fr? i won like half of all matches and always got under the top 3 teams even when playing duos

[boreal owl]

for real

[lean frost]

I love as val

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

My condolences

Also

[austere igloo]

I know this seems like a cursed build

But it’s how I got to gold

[brazen dagger]

yeah but i play fpp so there were probably more bots than in tpp

i just hate tpp for a passion

[austere igloo]

Eyyy a fellow fpp enjoyer

[austere igloo]

Same

[brazen dagger]

it is a fpp shooter

[austere igloo]

Exactly

[brazen dagger]

i am also way worse in tpp

[austere igloo]

i second that, unfortunately

[lean frost]

[austere igloo]

i prefer drh over as val

[lean frost]

but those 2 are completely different guns

[austere igloo]

drh gon be my new fav next @cosmic vessel

[brazen dagger]

fr haha

[lean frost]

Oden my fav AR currently

[austere igloo]

doesn't mttr

[lean frost]

Also Lapa with extended barrel kinda bussin

[austere igloo]

m16 with ranger fg + wildfire bussin

[austere igloo]

[lean frost]

Realistic AK
not very bussin ammo runs out way too quick

[brazen dagger]

my new fav gun is ots9

[austere igloo]

obvi

[brazen dagger]

so much fun

[austere igloo]

ehhh ots9 is a miss for me

i'd use it more if it didnt hv such slow-ass reload

other than that, the gun is good

[brazen dagger]

it has a faster reload than qq9

[lean frost]

Lapa is very fun
Time to replace Zrg

[austere igloo]

rn my current smgs r mac & cordite

[brazen dagger]

use this build

[austere igloo]

literally what Im using rn

[lean frost]

My fav guns rn are
Val
Oden
Em2
Chicom
Lapa

[brazen dagger]

oh lmao

[lean frost]

Absurdly slow reload
-tych

[brazen dagger]

atleast with the leggy it feels great to use

[brazen dagger]

not really haha

[austere igloo]

it do be like that

[lean frost]

Lapa vandal speed loader reload is pog

Ots fast ext mag reload is slow

[austere igloo]

when the fast ext mag reload has lesser rounds the large ext mag but penalizes ads time even more

[stray rapids]

My best accu🥲

[lean frost]

@stray rapids thoughts on extended barrel Lapa

[austere igloo]

it has always been pog wdym

[stray rapids]

Gud ig

[lean frost]

0% headshot

[austere igloo]

damn ur alr at gm5

[stray rapids]

I'm leggy alrdy

God i hate monastery

[lean frost]

U think extended barrel competitive for cqc?

[stray rapids]

Nah

Not sure tbh

[lean frost]

Its 79 ms interval for gurranteed 4 tap till 17m

I forgor to check bv

[brazen dagger]

how do you go negative in frontline?

[lean frost]

Hes pro, thats why

[cosmic vessel]

[stray rapids]

I normally don't

[brazen dagger]

thought so

[stray rapids]

Unless it's cqc maps

[brazen dagger]

normally double negative?

[stray rapids]

Or some dumb shit like monastery

[brazen dagger]

jk

[lean frost]

Porky just loves his negative strafe UL too much

[cosmic vessel]

TIME TO DIAMOND GRIND HOLGER

[stray rapids]

No i was using pk lol

[lean frost]

🛌

[cosmic vessel]

ANOTHER SOUL DESTROYING ADVENTURE

[stray rapids]

Dk if its just me but monastery is horrible to play against

[cosmic vessel]

WITH SLEEPYTREX

[brazen dagger]

i love monastery ngl

[cosmic vessel]

[lean frost]

@stray rapids goodge?

[stray rapids]

Equally as bad gotta be hijacked

[cosmic vessel]

Shoot-House better tho

[stray rapids]

Multi

[brazen dagger]

i mean i dont really play frontline but when i do i rather play monastery and crash than nuketwon and hijacked

[stray rapids]

Oh yeah shoot house is fun

[cosmic vessel]

I love shoot-house

[lean frost]

Doesn't affect 4 tap range but it is worse than base
🛌

5 tap range is 30m
Pretty good imo

[stray rapids]

I hate summit monastery oasis express

Worst 4

[cosmic vessel]

So the names I'm gonna give my guns will be
DR-H - sleepingtyrant
QQ9 - thugshaker9000
Holger 26 - (give a name)

[stray rapids]

The other maps i may not like but perform decent

[cosmic vessel]

Give a name for me to give the Holger

[boreal owl]

I play tpp with fpp mode

[lean frost]

What SMG has the fastest stf again?

[cosmic vessel]

I could give it the name "u-gonna-cry?"

[lean frost]

Hector & Coke Mg36

[cosmic vessel]

Isn't the limit 14?

Including the spaces

[lean frost]

remove the spaces
and uh
i dunno what to do if it still doesn't fit

[cosmic vessel]

So H&C MG36

Or HnC MG36

[lean frost]

But that doesn't really work
People just gonna think u mis-spelled Heckler & Koch

[cosmic vessel]

Eh, I'll probably just name it this (to be toxic)

[lean frost]

👍

[cosmic vessel]

I'm also pretty sure they might add an Otis skin in the next BP

Cause there wasn't one in this one

[lean frost]

My new lapa build

[keen gale]

🔥

Legacy tier? Bout to opt in beta ig

[brazen dagger]

what? you mean the other way round right?

[brazen dagger]

nuketown is no. 1

of being ass

[boreal owl]

I mean

I play tpp mode

but use fpp

[brazen dagger]

ahh ok

i did that but it is so sweaty

[boreal owl]

it's actually fun

[brazen dagger]

hmm, i find br boring so idk

[boreal owl]

well I play skirmish

[brazen dagger]

also kinda annoyed rn because the ots9 is so rare as geound loot

[boreal owl]

I want buy station

[brazen dagger]

yeaaah

[boreal owl]

would be a lot better

[lean frost]

I made something for fun

[woeful spruce]

It's very op lmaoo

[lean frost]

Akimbo maks aren't very op

[woeful spruce]

Can shred up to 5 people with one mag but alright

[boreal owl]

the fucked up

[lean frost]

Has a effective range os around 7-8m
Pretty poor ttk iirc

[woeful spruce]

It's a pistol you can't talk about range with pistols. It's ttk is completely fine lmao

[lean frost]

Whatever u say 👍

[woeful spruce]

I haven't yet faced this problem while using it in ranked snd

[lean frost]

I think it looks very neat

[rich arch]

@lime oxide

[lime oxide]

I don’t use the full auto barrel

[lean frost]

But why

Semi auto makarov is up there as a contender for worst pistols currently in the game

[lime oxide]

I copied everything I wanna try the combo grip barrel rq

[rich arch]

🙂

[lean frost]

This is a troll build right?

[rich arch]

Naahh... It's one of my favs.. but not using much

But tbh it's a bit wierd .. but it works

[lean frost]

Well thats gotta be the worst AK build i've seen recently

[rich arch]

The blueprint one is one good ak ..

But i messed it 😂..

Btw bro wanted to see the mag.. he didn't knew caliber mag

[lean frost]

@uneven anchor Whats melee sprint speed

[rich arch]

@lean frost what can be a good ak loadout

Like in your view

[lean frost]

Mono
Ext light barrel
No stock
Tac laser
Mag A

Standard Ak47 build

[rich arch]

Ohh..

Standard AK has damage but when it comes to like a Lil close combat the ak looses 🥲..

[lean frost]

5.45 calibre AK isn't good either

Much better off using Maddox, Peacekeeper, Agr Or Pdw if u wanna do cqc with it

[rich arch]

Yeah .. i don't use ak tho

[lean frost]

Normal Ak is one of the stronger 3 tapping ARs currently
5.45 AK is just...not very good

[rich arch]

🙂

[boreal owl]

op fg looks better

[boreal owl]

I'm a certified 5.45 ak 74 user and I agree with this

[cosmic vessel]

Guys give me a map where I can grind headshots on the Makarovs

[lean frost]

But ranger fg actually has good stats

[cosmic vessel]

And not shipment

Anything but shipment

[lean frost]

Should i try Drh

[cosmic vessel]

You should

[boreal owl]

but op fg is enough when you paired with marksman

[cosmic vessel]

It's nice to use if you can get the hang of it

[lean frost]

Bu-but ranger gives so much V.recoil, way more horizontal and so much bsa

[cosmic vessel]

Guys please help me

[boreal owl]

shitass YOU HAVE MARKSMAN

[lean frost]

not enuf

[cosmic vessel]

What map should I grind headshots for the Makarovs for?

[boreal owl]

YOU FUCKING SHITASS

[lean frost]

Its true

[rich arch]

Anyone who's a sniperhead..?

Tell me a dlq loadout

Idk why everyone's dlq is faster than mine 😭

[boreal owl]

no

[rich arch]

Bruk perksn?

[boreal owl]

op fg is enough

[lean frost]

Dlq 🤮

[rich arch]

For agressive sniping!!

[lean frost]

Yes
Way more useful than any other option

[rich arch]

I have been using this all long

[lean frost]

That is for aggresive sniping

[lean frost]

Laser
0/10 build

[rich arch]

With toughness perk lightweight and some blue

[lean frost]

Maevwat omega also quite meh

[dire blaze]

how do you get discord like that

[lean frost]

Mag A better

[rich arch]

Laser helps in smoke i can easily target

[rich arch]

Picture in picture mode

[lean frost]

But it doesn't..?

[dire blaze]

how

[lean frost]

How does laser help u aim😭

[rich arch]

Nahh it's preety cool.. sometimes it misses but it's on you how u take shot

[stray spade]

Yo

[lean frost]

Lasers just suck
Simple as that

[rich arch]

What's your phone ?

[stray spade]

What's up everybody

[boreal owl]

aim with laser

no scope

[dire blaze]

iphone 11

[lean frost]

Truly the pro move of all times

[dire blaze]

i think

idk

[rich arch]

Ahh brubro u have an iOS device why the hell u needd pip mode.

[boreal owl]

and shots still never lands on where your laser is aiming at

[dire blaze]

lol

[lean frost]

How do u not know what ur phone is u silly
Also i thought every modern phone had windowed mode..

[rich arch]

Iphones have great background process.. better keep discord in background

[stray spade]

I also have an iOS device

[boreal owl]

iphone:

[lean frost]

The only laser which helps u aim on a sniper is this right here

[dire blaze]

cause if i have anything running in the background my phone starts melting after like 2 games

[lean frost]

iOS sucks ong

[boreal owl]

true

[rich arch]

But the gameplay on iOS is so lit

[boreal owl]

what the fuck

[rich arch]

Well ios ain't versatile

[boreal owl]

is that stats

[lean frost]

Helps in blankscope accuracy
Technically, its the only laser which improves accuracy

[lean frost]

dont look at the debuffs those are just
Uhh
yes

[boreal owl]

that will basically changes nothing

[rich arch]

@dire blaze okay then you can use i. Split screen

[dire blaze]

?

[boreal owl]

the blankscope accu is almost the same with laser whatsoever

[rich arch]

Pip i guess I used it in iPads i don't remember in iphone

[lean frost]

Which is why lasers on snipers suck

[boreal owl]

true

[dire blaze]

how tf you playing this on an ipad

[primal wolf]

Can anyone give me a legendary gun or cp

[lean frost]

@cosmic vessel if i dont like drh i sue

[boreal owl]

30 mag

don't use 25

(I use it

[dire blaze]

or what?

?

[primal wolf]

Nothing

[lean frost]

But i dont wanna hurt mobility

[boreal owl]

use

30

[undone sandal]

what's the makarov build again

nvm ill max hipfire for now

[lean frost]

Idk ask rice
I use 140mm, mono supp, 5mw, light trig SA and 80r tho

[lean frost]

: (

[midnight lantern]

Hey was rpd lava was ever released in garena?

[boreal owl]

use 30

[lean frost]

No
Leaves

[boreal owl]

no

[undone sandal]

dunno
im not up-to-date with those stuff

[midnight lantern]

K

[boreal owl]

bro

range barrel where

[dire blaze]

whats a good lmg build

[rich arch]

I have had an iPad too

[lean frost]

Extended more fun

[boreal owl]

no

[lean frost]

Yes

[rich arch]

@rich arch are u playing or u will come afterwards

[rich arch]

Later man

Coz u re online so askin

Okay fine

[midnight lantern]

[rich arch]

Only discord chatting

[rich arch]

Love that emoji

it's goody

goofy*

[midnight lantern]

Welp i got that emoji added in the server

My fav emoji

[real crescent]

Kindly delete this

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

yessir

[cosmic vessel]

Yo guys I'm grinding longshots on the Makarov, give me a build and a map to play on

[fluid copper]

I feel like this is a good build for the mw11 but what do yall think

It shoots fast and it's good for long range and real good for close range that's how I feel

[narrow glen]

@fluid copper, 3

[silver crown]

good for grinding Longshots or no

[cosmic vessel]

Yippie

Tell cat I'm gonna use the UL

Someone give me a UL Build

Nvm

You need to be accurate for the UL

And passive

[royal beacon]

Or be as aggressive as possible with the ul

It’s a Heavy, Recoiless Ak for me

Wait when did i become elite

[lean frost]

Tac supp
Steady stock
60r mag
Gran
Tac laser

Using the Drh also felt like i was using a handicapped Ak47

[cosmic vessel]

Damm

I guess it's bad?

I like using it tho

[lean frost]

It runs out of ammo so fast
And recoil, while it isn't bad is considerably worse than the Ak tbf

[lean frost]

It isn't bad
Still a solid 3 tapper, just that mag cap makes me morbius

[cosmic vessel]

Here's a tip, don't spray with the DR-H

In HP matches I like to stay nearby the Hardpoint and just kill people

[lean frost]

oh
and lower arm multis
🛌

[lean frost]

I mainly play snd

[cosmic vessel]

Ah

Don't use DR-H in SnD

Even as a DR-H main

do not use DR-H in SnD

Use EM2

[lean frost]

Wouldn't drh be better in SnD since
The mag cap isn't as big of an issue?

[cosmic vessel]

Kills faster

[lean frost]

Slower
3 tap ttk is faster on Drh
Granted its faster by like 3ms

[cosmic vessel]

You know, you might be right

I can't belive this

[lean frost]

Not to mention Em2 is a gurranteed 3 tap first range whereas Drh needs 1 upper body shot at the very least

[cosmic vessel]

EM2 is slower?

Huh

[lean frost]

By abit yes

[cosmic vessel]

EM2 is my main SnD AR

And I've already started using Kilo and M13 in ranked

At this point, I probably just use DR-H in Pub Matches

[lean frost]

Em2 has a 112 ms interval, whereas Drh has a 110 ms interval+hitscan
Drh is probably a handfull of milliseconds faster for 3 tap

The difference is quite negligible tho

[cosmic vessel]

EM2 is the better SnD AR imo

[lean frost]

Em2 is just a better gun in general

[cosmic vessel]

DR-H is a high B to low A teir AR

[lean frost]

I'd say C tier tbh

[cosmic vessel]

Nah it's B teir

[lean frost]

Alone, The Drh is a solid gun
But its handicapped alot by the mag size and somewhat obsoleted by alternatives

[cosmic vessel]

But yeah

[lean frost]

That second point would make me put it at C

[cosmic vessel]

The DR-H's main problem is it's mag size

And there are better 3-shotters, like the EM2 and (maybe?) the MoW

MoW is a good SnD gun

[lime slate]

[lean frost]

Em2 and Ak47 for sure
MoW...hmm

[cosmic vessel]

Well maybe not MoW

I have yet to try AK in MP

The only time was to unlock the GRU attachment

I might try it tho

Wait no

I have too many AR loadouts

DR-H, EM2, Kilo 141, M13

[lean frost]

Whenever i wanna try a gun, i just slap it in trial loadout, if i like it alot, i choose a loadout to put it in

[cosmic vessel]

But then there's the SMG

[lean frost]

Like the oden which i decided to put in 2 days ago
Or the Lapa, which i just put in today

[cosmic vessel]

Fennec, PP19, QQ9, (and the one I barely use) CBR4

Then there's the LMGs

Holger and Chopper

I only have two slots left (trial and the other one)

Which I have for a shotty and a sniper

[lean frost]

I Just dont use shottys since i dont have enuf skill to make them more useful than a cqc smg

[sullen moon]

Use every fast attachment abd use the perk fmj and dont use owc lser

[austere igloo]

[sullen moon]

Yes dont use owc lzr and use fmj

[austere igloo]

Hmm

[boreal owl]

Mow be better than ak-47

Unless pure skill issue

[cosmic vessel]

Hey, I don't even use

It

[austere igloo]

Fair enough

[cosmic vessel]

I just don't have the time to replace it

[austere igloo]

Elaborate

[unreal isle]

Any pistol build to complete markovs challenges ?

[sullen moon]

Okay

[cosmic vessel]

And I got no ideas for what to use

[austere igloo]

How bout pdw?

[boreal owl]

Less overall recoil
Consistent 3 taps

[cosmic vessel]

Also

[boreal owl]

And it’s fn fal based

[austere igloo]

U got gold makarov too

[cosmic vessel]

Look at this guy's goofy looking pistol

[austere igloo]

This is mine yes ik its not standard idc

[cosmic vessel]

Straight out of a MWII/Warzone loadout

[austere igloo]

What pistol is that

[boreal owl]

His build is almost 100% right

[austere igloo]

That doesn’t look like a makarov

[sullen moon]

Heres one for fast ads and reload and another one for 1 shot wallbang

[midnight lantern]

[cosmic vessel]

Renneti

[austere igloo]

Ah, that makes sense

[austere igloo]

Wtf bipod?

[sullen moon]

yes bc

[unreal isle]

Anyone ?

[austere igloo]

Bipod isnt useful

[boreal owl]

Light supp for quick and small penalty (range barely matter on burst guns)

[cosmic vessel]

This might help

[sullen moon]

Bipod makes faster for slide time since hdr is such a heavy sniper u need it for wuick slide

[austere igloo]

Unless ur hardscoping, ig

[boreal owl]

Rds for clear vision

He might use ranger barrel

[austere igloo]

Hdr not meant for quickscope anyway

[unreal isle]

I want other weapon to unlock it 😂

[sullen moon]

But its still good for jt

[lean frost]

Bipod doesn't do anything u just said

[sullen moon]

Wsp?

[boreal owl]

Laser is unnecessary idk why would someone use it on renetti

[cosmic vessel]

HDR is a hardcoping sniper

[austere igloo]

He didnt say?

[austere igloo]

Yea

[boreal owl]

Technically

[austere igloo]

Hdr is for hardscope

[sullen moon]

Not rlly

[austere igloo]

Not quickscope

[boreal owl]

It’s more of blankscope

[sullen moon]

I quick scope with it

[cosmic vessel]

I use Locus

[austere igloo]

Yea it is

[boreal owl]

(If yk how to do it)

[austere igloo]

I use koshka

[lean frost]

But it still looks like a abomination

[cosmic vessel]

[sullen moon]

I use xpr

[boreal owl]

No

It looks perfectly fine

[austere igloo]

MoW looks like an abomination??

Excusez-moi?

[boreal owl]

Any bo guns are cool

Change my mind

[lean frost]

Compared to how the fal looks, i don like look of MoW

[austere igloo]

Based

[cosmic vessel]

Holger is now my 3rd favourite weapon

[austere igloo]

UL my 4th fav prolly

[willow gorge]

Is this a good build?

[austere igloo]

That’s the standard build

[cosmic vessel]

I think they'll probably nerf the Makarovs in the next update

[austere igloo]

Make appropriate changes

[willow gorge]

im looking for the best build for gks

[boreal owl]

No

[austere igloo]

I think they will

[cosmic vessel]

But also buff the base dmg

[willow gorge]

im also rushing with it

[austere igloo]

But they better buff the fucking aimshake of the full auto makarov in ads

[boreal owl]

Makarov doesn’t hit the best by any good think about secondaries
But it’s fun

[cosmic vessel]

Cause grinding that no attachment challenge was fucking hell

[austere igloo]

Then change the ykm integral supp to mono + supp

[sullen moon]

This ots-9 class is very good

[austere igloo]

Wha?

[cosmic vessel]

Most people use the Maks with Akimbo

[austere igloo]

Mf w diamond kiparis

[austere igloo]

Most

[cosmic vessel]

Bros got diamond already💀

[austere igloo]

Not all

[austere igloo]

Real

[sullen moon]

Lmao

[austere igloo]

I literally just got gold kiparis a day ago

[cosmic vessel]

They'll need to nerf it's akimbo

[austere igloo]

& mfs be flexing their diamond kiparis

[boreal owl]

For quick response 1911 takes the crown
For dmg per shot deagle takes the crown
For hipfire L car takes the crown

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

Lcar

I use that pistol as my main

[lean frost]

Put J358 somewhere there too

[austere igloo]

Lcar is the king of hipfire

[cosmic vessel]

Makarovs are best for supporting LMGs like the Holger imo

LCAR is hip god

[austere igloo]

J358 is a close second to mw11 & lcar

[lean frost]

That sounds like a Mw11 with extra steps

[austere igloo]

Literally

[boreal owl]

What crown will it takes
The most mid ass of all time?

[austere igloo]

Huh? What? J358 is not mid…?

[lean frost]

Its quite strong

[austere igloo]

Wtf

[cosmic vessel]

I use deagle in my EMG loadout

[lean frost]

Better cqc than the deagle

[boreal owl]

Mid represents middle

[cosmic vessel]

I haven't decided which loadout should be for the LCAR

[boreal owl]

It still isn’t the best in cqc category

[austere igloo]

U mean…stat wise? Or the ranking among the category of the pistols?

[cosmic vessel]

Also, guys I found a bug

[boreal owl]

Ranking

[austere igloo]

doesn’t make it any less good

[lean frost]

I think it might be
Its also the fastest sprint speed among pistols, so theres that

[boreal owl]

Stats it’s fairly better than deagle if you can’t aim

[cosmic vessel]

If I'm playing prop hunt, and if I have a diamond weapon the secondary is also diamond

[boreal owl]

I was talking about function whatsoever

[austere igloo]

I tend to score more kills with j358 than deagle, so go figure

[lean frost]

Deagle is better if u cant aim
It has stupid aim assist
J358 has standard aim assist

[austere igloo]

Or maybe it’s just that I built my j358 for cqc than range like deagle

[lean frost]

J358 technically has better stats soo

[boreal owl]

“Can’t aim” I said means can’t hit head

[austere igloo]

I prefer using j358

More satisfying to use

[lean frost]

True

[austere igloo]

The aim assist of deagle sometimes throws me off

[austere igloo]

[boreal owl]

Deagle can 1 headstk while j358 can barely do it (fix this shit)

[lean frost]

J358 SP actually competes with deagle extremely well

[cosmic vessel]

Deagle is just a weaker Annihilator

[lean frost]

Standard J358 build doesn't use SP but still

[willow gorge]

Is it good

[boreal owl]

Then you sacrifice the rpm which is what makes j358 a better choice

And I haven’t mentioned about suppression and mag size

[cosmic vessel]

I swear if I join another pub match and it's a shipment dom/hp, I'll rip my phone to shreds

[lean frost]

U wanted 1 shot headshots, SP gives 1 shot headshots while retaining the mobility of J358

[lean frost]

Mag size is the only notable advantage i see for deagle

Except aim assist

[boreal owl]

Don’t forget suppression

[lean frost]

You'd use a pistol in cqc or for finishing people off
Suppression isn't necessary for either of those things

[willow gorge]

Best green perk on snd?

for rushing

[boreal owl]

Like I said j358 is a perfectly fine gun
But it still isn’t good enough to takes the crown

[lean frost]

Depends

[lean frost]

Quick fix

[willow gorge]

is quick fix or the hard wired

[lean frost]

Quick fix

[willow gorge]

oh okay thankyou

[boreal owl]

Basically cqc category has better guns to take the crown

So it won’t be on board today

[lean frost]

Name one

[boreal owl]

Lcar which has better hipfire
Makarov cuz it’s makarov bimbo

[tranquil iron]

Just use Kali sticks

[lean frost]

Lcar has worse ttk than the J358, Not to mention that one of the things you'd use a pistol for is finishing people off
Which the J358 would do better since it hits like a truck compared to Lcar's 26 damage per shot

[boreal owl]

Ttk won’t matter if you hipfire and well
Miss shots

[tranquil iron]

But you're forgetting that the lcar shoots faster thus it's a lot more forgiving for people with bad aim

[lean frost]

Tych doesn't have makarov bimbus stats
But semi makarov is shit so i cant compare those

[boreal owl]

And one more thing

Finishing off

That means you don’t need big dmg but fast rpm

[lean frost]

PV is nice to have yes
Cant really defend the J358 there

[lean frost]

Because i definitely want to have to hit 2-3 shots and potentially get killed in the process instead of having to hit only 1

J358 has one of the best if not the best potentials for a pistol
But u need to be accurate with it
Its hipfire is decent so it does that fine

[austere igloo]

Ye

[tranquil iron]

How about mw11?

It can two tap

[lean frost]

Mw11
Hmm
Also quite good

[lean frost]

Its 3 tap is also decently consistent in the first range right?

[boreal owl]

Still not the best

[silver crown]

just use shorty (most reliable sidearm if you have good aim tbh)

[silver crown]

quick fix is the best overall

[stray rapids]

Styhertz only looks at the best nothing else matters smh