codm-gunsmith-help

[lean frost]

Enlighten me

[cosmic vessel]

Ah

[lean frost]

I need to know how that man lost to a SF

[haughty bluff]

I have a game play that swordfish hip fire hits from +10 meters

[rich arch]

[cosmic vessel]

I got two burst in BR by a Swordfish (long range)

[haughty bluff]

I’m telling this for 18 minutes

[stray rapids]

2 bursts

[cosmic vessel]

What?

[haughty bluff]

Get a 4 scope on it and see what it do

[stray rapids]

Did u have kinetic

[cosmic vessel]

I didn't

All I had was base plates

[stray rapids]

That's the issue ig

[haughty bluff]

If you hit all burst it’s even have high ttk

[stray rapids]

Low ttk*

[stray rapids]

In most cases the target gotta be stationary

[lean frost]

Unreal

[haughty bluff]

5 burst means 115 damage

[cosmic vessel]

I think I also just came back from being res

[stray rapids]

Where Snipers will just 1 tap

[willow gorge]

Gks build pls

[stray rapids]

Nah man, i was pretty dead

[cosmic vessel]

On the other side of the map💀

[stray rapids]

Br has 300hp including kinetic armour

[haughty bluff]

You can only one tap in the head IF enemy standing in one spot

[stray rapids]

Eh i forgot

[cosmic vessel]

The game landed me like, miles away from you

[haughty bluff]

Two burst 230 damage

[stray rapids]

So 3 burst then

[lean frost]

I love tap firing

[willow gorge]

anyone have a good gks build

[stray rapids]

That's pretty much most swordfish kills too

[cosmic vessel]

Man should I stop using shotguns and snipers? (I'm used to ARs, SMGs, and LMGs)

[stray rapids]

Since ur main enemy is Snipers

[stray rapids]

Holy shit icr can beam like swordfish 😲

[stray rapids]

@lean frost

[haughty bluff]

I can’t believe it lol

[lean frost]

Both can beam pretty far is the enemy is afk

[haughty bluff]

[lean frost]

Thy mother

[cosmic vessel]

Imagine, DR-H marksman rifle build

[cosmic vessel]

Like a lighter SKS

[stray rapids]

Sleepy only stopped like 2 sec or so and the swordfish obliterated, i couldn't even see where guy was

[lean frost]

I love it when my enemies barely move/stand still so my swordfish can look good

[stray rapids]

Same goes to snipers

[cosmic vessel]

I was plating

[lean frost]

Snipers can deal with people who are moving
They're 1 shot the majority of the time

[stray rapids]

Bruh, you need a head shot

[lean frost]

I was talking about mp

[stray rapids]

We were all talking about br smh

[lean frost]

No we were not

[stray rapids]

Bye I'm out

Need to watch YouTube

[cosmic vessel]

Guys should I call my QQ9 "thugshaker9000"

[haughty bluff]

It enough
Don’t prove swordfish to a skill issues guy i see this people everyday who can’t play with it and saying swordfish sucks

[lean frost]

Swordfish does indeed suck

Pathetic gun

[cosmic vessel]

I'm like, a few games away from completing it's Mastery

I'm just gonna ask

[lean frost]

Only redeeming factor is that swordfish is a bullpup
And bullpups look hot

[cosmic vessel]

Should I call my QQ9 thugshaker9000?

Before I do it

Oden is the best looking bullpup in the game

[haughty bluff]

I got it’s both leggy and both are the most beautiful leggy in my opinion

[stray rapids]

He skill issue, but make no mistake though swordfish is all things considered a rather bad gun

[lean frost]

Or chicom

[stray rapids]

But hey, it does its job

[cosmic vessel]

Guys pls

[lean frost]

Chicom looks nice with flashlight

[cosmic vessel]

But the Flashlight is useless

[haughty bluff]

The only thing this people can say is BAD TTK and yeah it’s ttk is bad but not only ttk important to choose a gun

[narrow glen]

@haughty bluff, 32

[lean frost]

Swordfish needs 4/4 to kill anything
Which u wont hit the majority of the time if the enemy is moving
And then u have big fat PV
Try using Oden instead
Big hot bullpup just like swordfish

[haughty bluff]

Yeah it does the job perfectly for me got it to global rank 7 one time

[lean frost]

It looks nice

[lean frost]

big fat oden

[haughty bluff]

Oden junk rpm bad recoil bad bsa and fire rate the only benefit of that gun is ttk

[lean frost]

Oden has alot of the same stuff swordfish has going for it
Except Oden doesn't suck

[stray rapids]

Good bsa now actually

[lean frost]

•Big PV
•Great ttk if ur accurate

also great BSA
🛌

[haughty bluff]

Swordfish reload time much better

[lean frost]

hm yes
The most important factor
Reload time

[haughty bluff]

Swordfish empty reload time is same as not empty reload time

[lean frost]

Also Swordfish ttk is 180 ms
Oden 2 shot ttk is 145 to 170 ish with bv at range
So oden actually more rewarding for being accurate

[haughty bluff]

Why people only worried about close range in most of time
Long range is important too

[stray rapids]

Bro are yall talking br or mp

[lean frost]

Im talking mp

U BR nerd!!

[haughty bluff]

Oden base bsa is 20 and swordfish base bsa is 10

[stray rapids]

Ye i really need to leave

[lean frost]

No
Its not
Oden has the best BSA among full autos

[haughty bluff]

I’m talking about fucking br but it’s same in mp

[lean frost]

In-game stat sheet is incorrect 🛌

[haughty bluff]

People only say benefits of a gun that they love

[lean frost]

play wotb

[lean frost]

Which is why ur defending this garbage gun

[haughty bluff]

If oden is that good why it’s don’t called meta

[lean frost]

When did i say oden was meta
Or even good?

[haughty bluff]

Because of fucking rpm and fire rate

[lean frost]

I'd rather have oden rpm than whatever swordfish has

200 ms PV
dies

[haughty bluff]

You prefer not all the world

[lean frost]

that doesn't make sense

@stray rapids come back i need to talk about how S36 is good aggro LMG

[stray rapids]

Chopper and hades
~leaves

[lean frost]

but slow reload

S36 has gigachad reload time

[stray rapids]

The only thing remotely gigachad about it

[lean frost]

but
good bsa
better range than chopper
and same ttk

S36 redemption cult

[haughty bluff]

hm yes
The most important factor
Reload time

This is your message

[lean frost]

Here it actually matters

[haughty bluff]

Lol

[lean frost]

Oden reload time is perfectly fine

[haughty bluff]

Ok

[lean frost]

Swordfish is garbage

moving on

[haughty bluff]

Yeah it’s so good

I leave and dies of cringe

[lean frost]

Swordfish users talking about how good their beam is:
This thing called tapfiring:

[lean frost]

@stray rapids come backkkk

I will convince u that S36 is a good gun

[haughty bluff]

Yeah takes 5 S for a afk kill

[lean frost]

[i dont think its better than chopper/hades tho]

[lean frost]

With the advantage being that if the enemy decides to move
U can actually kill them instead of suffer with long PV

[haughty bluff]

You shoot with icr like a burst BC of recoil

[lean frost]

Bursts have low recoil
[Generally]
I shoot like a burst to mitigate the recoil of my full auto
Sounds about right

[stray rapids]

What bsa
What range

[lean frost]

the range advantage isn't as big as i thought 🛌

Ik chopper is technically inf 5 tap
But how often do u fight someone over 47m in mp🛌

[willow gorge]

Gks build pls

[rich arch]

guys... i have a weird question

can i use makarov full auto akimbo in alcatraz?😂😂

[brazen dagger]

only from loadout drops

[rich arch]

no i mean is it possible to win by that?😂

i will pull akimbo fennec and akimbo makarov as sencodary

would be fun to suffer ppl no shit

[brazen dagger]

yes it is possible but only if you camp

is this build the best? (aside from striker fg instead of lw stock)

[stray rapids]

I like how allat and s36 still a slug

[fast cliff]

My current build can someone give me better build idk what's good for lapa

[boreal owl]

first

don't use it

[fast cliff]

I'm bored of using meta guns ok

[boreal owl]

fennec isn't meta
qxr isn't meta

mac-10 isn't meta

[main cloud]

does anyone have an oden for BR

and a ppsh for BR

[dusky socket]

Anyone got holger gunsmth

[brazen dagger]

guys i am telling you 32 round mag on ots9 is crazy good

[brazen dagger]

fennec is meta lol

[main cloud]

this good?

[stray rapids]

Ye ig

[analog moss]

What should i name my gun?

[stray rapids]

U build ur lapa pretty slow

Try agency supp
Ranger barrel
Vandal mag
Firm grip
Max strafe stock

[lean frost]

But do u agree its atleast a good gun

[stray rapids]

No

[lean frost]

Lets talk about that tactical supp first

[lean frost]

Why not

[analog moss]

Its not

I can show you

[lean frost]

👍

[analog moss]

Im using the thing to change the appearance

Now what should i name my gun

[devout cipher]

ZRG 20mm

[analog moss]

Why zrg 😭

Can’t have a space

@lean frost

What should I name the gun?

[lean frost]

Ionno

[dire blaze]

ok so is mip light really the best barrel for snipers?

[stray rapids]

Should be

[brazen dagger]

all my guns are called ΗΞΗΞΗΞΗΔШ

[devout cipher]

find a lb players name with an invisible space and paste that if you want a space

[brazen dagger]

my codm ingame name is basically a space

[devout cipher]

i took my name from urs

[boreal owl]

for cn server

fennec couldn't perform that well with recoil and well

range

[brazen dagger]

range is great tbh

with mono and elb it has 20 meters 4 shot range

[boreal owl]

with fairly

ass kicking recoil

[brazen dagger]

i can cope with it tbh

but yeah i can see why it isnt considered

[boreal owl]

its recoil is worse than qq9

(but for me fennec is forever meta)

[spice jewel]

I need a good marksman build

[brazen dagger]

i got a akimbo fennec build lol

[empty galleon]

Ots build please

[main cloud]

is fennec still the best smg in BR

[brazen dagger]

by 15

gran, owc tac, extended barrel, slug, choke

[brazen dagger]

this or 32 rnd mag instead of 40 rnd

[spice jewel]

wh-

[spice jewel]

how do you have diamond on it already-

[brazen dagger]

no life

[brazen dagger]

by15 with slugs has 30 meters of 1 shot to the whole body

is basically a marksman rifle

[spice jewel]

jesus

[spice jewel]

how old are you

[spice jewel]

aint no way you are actually a weapon master

[brazen dagger]

17

[spice jewel]

ah

ur older than me by 1 year

[brazen dagger]

nice

[spice jewel]

and abt the weapon master

is it true

[brazen dagger]

well i am on global lb for na45 and on reginal for pkm but other than that no

[spice jewel]

wow

[narrow glen]

@spice jewel, 9

[brazen dagger]

as i said, no life

[spice jewel]

NA45, first time hearing someone with that kinda mastery

[main cloud]

anyone got a agr for BR

[spice jewel]

not me

also when it comes to gunsmithing idk jack shit abt it so I just steal builds off the internet

[brazen dagger]

i love it, bought the leggy for it

[spice jewel]

wow

is it actually good?

never used it for a while

[brazen dagger]

if you want builds just ping me

[brazen dagger]

nope, it is garbage but really toxic that is why i love it

[spice jewel]

like

[main cloud]

is this good for BR

[spice jewel]

its bad but you use it anyway so people get even more pissed off

[spice jewel]

show the weapon overview stats

[brazen dagger]

this is the loadout i use

[spice jewel]

got damn

[brazen dagger]

yes and they are like "noob gun so i dare them to use it and do well"

[spice jewel]

also I just realised this gunzo skin makes him look a lot like the batman who laughs

wait you dont have the ammo perk?

[brazen dagger]

it is based off of joker

[spice jewel]

makes sense

[brazen dagger]

vulture?

[spice jewel]

yeah

I use it for all of my builds

[brazen dagger]

nah i dont need it in ranked

[spice jewel]

touché

I excel in smgs

[brazen dagger]

you are better off using quick fix, ghost, gung ho or toughness

[spice jewel]

so I'm like the scout except instead of a sawed off Im running around with a mac-10 or rus in my hand

[spice jewel]

i see

also the full auto makarov is amazing

I love it

[brazen dagger]

me too

i am maybe grinding diamomd for it

[spice jewel]

its a good secondary for using heavy weapons as ur main

[spice jewel]

do you not have like, college or something to do

[quiet jackal]

Guys do you know how to make snipers diamond fast?

[spice jewel]

You must suffer

you must dedicate every ounce of your time to getting them

[brazen dagger]

had my last exam today, now i have 5 months break before college starts

[spice jewel]

also we need more special camos fr, not just tournament ones

[spice jewel]

similar scenario for me, Im actually doing my finals right now

actually why am I playing...

I should be studying my ass off, even if I waste 10 minutes

[brazen dagger]

go into ffa nuketown and take two guns with you
after 10 kills switch to the second gun and try to get 10 kills with that one
also try to remember spawns

[brazen dagger]

damn good luck, had my maths exam today and was playing codm mainly yesterday

because my grades were already not good and i knew i could pass fairly easily

[spice jewel]

O h

my maths and chem exam is tomorrow, maths it 2 and a half hours long lmao

[brazen dagger]

my maths exam today was 5 hours💀

nearly died of boredom

german exam was 6 hours but i was finished after 4 hours lol

[stray rapids]

5 hour exam?

Continuos or wot

[main cloud]

can yall give me some underrated guns for BR

i got a loadout slot that idk what to do with

[brazen dagger]

yep, final exams

[brazen dagger]

m13

[main cloud]

build?

[brazen dagger]

mono, heavy long barrel, 60 round mag, tac laser, granulated

[paper quiver]

Field Agent Foregrip isn't needed for LAPA, neither is the Aim Assist Laser.

[severe valley]

Ahoy

Was wondering whether or not to consider bullet speed on builds

[paper quiver]

Personally, I don't think so

[paper quiver]

For MP?

[severe valley]

As as far as I experienced it is useless to do so

Yeah, MP

[brazen dagger]

what would you use?

[paper quiver]

Bullet Velocity is something I'd definitely build for

[severe valley]

Why?

What effect does it have?

[brazen dagger]

makes bullets have travel time and not be an instant hit so it makes ttk slower

but everything above 700m/s for smg and 900 m/s for ar/lmg is perfectly fine

[stray rapids]

Dam i don't see u ever

[severe valley]

Hmm thanks

[paper quiver]

In CODM, if you don't have bullet speed as an attribute on a gun then it means by default all bullets land via hitscan, meaning, bullet spread aside, your bullets will instantly land on generally where you're aiming

With bullet speed in the picture, the range for which your bullets land by hitscan is reduced to be very short. Now, you have added frames to your TTK depending on the distance

[paper quiver]

Hi, I'm just doing my occasional check in haha

[stray rapids]

Do u think 700bv on ots is good enough to not be a problem

[swift pebble]

What’s a good qq9 build rn?

[paper quiver]

I'm kind of 60/40 on saying yes

[stray rapids]

Mhm

How close is ots to meta

[paper quiver]

On paper, it is strong enough where I can see arguments for it having a place in the metagame, but, as I always say, performance testing is needed.

[stray rapids]

So far I'm really liking ots

Much more stable than sx9 imo

[paper quiver]

Overall recoil is definitely easier than SBX9 yes

Hitboxes are better than SBX9 too

[stray rapids]

Potential best smg?

[paper quiver]

I'd disagree on that note

It's strong, but I don't think it's the best SMG

I think that still goes to the CBR4

[stray rapids]

What are ur thoughts on cordite and pdw

[paper quiver]

A lot better than before, but not yet at the point of being meta contenders

[stray rapids]

Hm

[paper quiver]

However, I speak purely from a competitive standpoint

If it's ranked, just use whatever you want and you should be fine

[stray rapids]

117 or pk better in comp

[paper quiver]

117

[stray rapids]

Oh😔

[paper quiver]

I do like Peacekeeper a lot though

[neon sinew]

Anyone have good qq9 mythic gunsmithing ?

[stray rapids]

I liked 117 before i used it in rank

Pk just feels much better somehow

[devout cipher]

mono, tac long barrel, 45r mag, tac laser/gran, no stock

gran over tac if you don’t want to show your laser ig

[neon sinew]

Ty

[brazen dagger]

i saw a comp player using vdv, agile stock, 30 round mag, agency supp and SoH for ots9

[paper quiver]

Likely the BSA

[stray rapids]

@swift pebble

[brazen dagger]

isnt that a really bad build?

[rich arch]

[paper quiver]

Which comp player was this?

[stray rapids]

Honestly my aim just can't track fast guns with something like 117

[brazen dagger]

give me a second

[stray rapids]

I need the strafe to fight back

[paper quiver]

I'm not a fan of the build for sure

[long shoal]

We do a little trollin

[devout cipher]

💀

[brazen dagger]

it was jezz

[paper quiver]

I figured it was since he's the only pro that I'm aware of using the OTs in a publicly available event

[stray rapids]

What are ur thoughts on ul rn

[brazen dagger]

also carnage used vdv and field agent which i think is overkill recoil control

[long shoal]

Meme builds are fun

[paper quiver]

The only two attachments I personally agree with are VDV and Agency Suppressor. I can see an argument for Agile Stock, so maybe that as well (I'm not sold on it though). The rest, I disagree.

[brazen dagger]

my main ots9 build is tfb, agency, firm grip, 32 round mag and striker stock

[paper quiver]

Very strong, I'd personally put it as the best LMG.

[stray rapids]

Over holger??

[paper quiver]

I know most people are still likely on the Holger hype train yes but I personally think UL is stronger

[stray rapids]

Damn

Ul or lk

[paper quiver]

LK

[stray rapids]

Oh

[paper quiver]

In most instances

[brazen dagger]

for me the vdv felt good as a more passive option but it kinda nukes the mobility which is a huge selling point of the ots9

[paper quiver]

But, the UL has a niche that it fulfills in my opinion

[rich arch]

kilo build ?

[brazen dagger]

but from a comp perspective the vdv might be better suited since it is more passive and better for hitting shots

[paper quiver]

Well that depends on what you mean by mobility

If you mean specifically the aspect of rotation speed, then striker foregrip helps, which incidentally, that attachment also helps with strafe.

The real downside of VDV if anything in my opinion is that it does nuke your strafe to the point where you have to either use 2 strafe boosting attachments or 1 + Skulker as your red perk which honestly isn't a huge issue anyway

[long shoal]

How do you guys think this would do in BR?

[stray rapids]

@lean frost help this guy

[paper quiver]

Kilo-Bolt or Kilo 141?

[rich arch]

141

[lean frost]

Why am i the gunsmither now

[stray rapids]

Mhm probably use infantry barrel instead of mono supp

[stray rapids]

Cos i make u

[lean frost]

Do u think S36 is atleast good

[stray rapids]

Do u think main ar m13 works

[stray rapids]

Hell no

[lean frost]

but why not

[stray rapids]

Smh

I swear i tell u before

[lean frost]

i asked this hours ago and u didn't reply

[paper quiver]

Needs testing, but I'd say it depends on the map. I can see it working for maps like Summit or Standoff, but definitely not for maps like Takeoff

[rich arch]

🙏

[lean frost]

Im devastated

[long shoal]

I did that

[stray rapids]

Marksman
Tac supp
Mag B
Fmj
Gran🙏

[lean frost]

Also i dont have a Kilo 141 build
Old standard build uses no stock, But now that just feels off
Soo

[rich arch]

🙏🙏🙏

[lean frost]

U ignored me again😭

[stray rapids]

Do u think kilo is usable without mythic skin

[pseudo token]

Tac sup, extended barrel, Tac laser, Op foregrip, Granulated grip tape

[brazen dagger]

yes i meant the strafe which is then slower than the other aggressive smgs like qq9 or switchblade
i myself only use striker fg (or lw stock for style purposes) and skulker but that already brings the strafe to i think 4.74 m/s

sacrificing the strafe speed for 5% more range and 10% faster bv while only losing a bit of recoil control which isnt an issue with the ots9 doesnt seem worth it in my opinion

[paper quiver]

Depends on if you have a blueprint, I am not a fan of RDS on Kilo so at that point using LK might be better off for you

[stray rapids]

Weak mobility
Mid range

[stray rapids]

Personally i will ul🗣️🔥

[vernal nimbus]

So u fw the build

[pseudo token]

I still use it lol

[lean frost]

Hmm
Range i can't agree with but it is quite slow

[brazen dagger]

what would you recommend for m13

silencer barrel with 60 round mag

or

heavy long barrel with 40 round double stack mag

[soft ferry]

What attachments should I use for the makarov

?

[stray rapids]

I think Holger has better range without any form of range boosting

[pseudo token]

What lmg is fast

[soft ferry]

Dingo i

[pseudo token]

Ofc the holgers the best lmg

[lean frost]

I dont think it does

[brazen dagger]

the new bp blueprint has great irons

[pseudo token]

Irrelevant ass gun

[soft ferry]

Not with the new gm3 skin Lmao

Plenty of people using it

[brazen dagger]

and it isnt even that fast

[lean frost]

Or perhaps it does
I think they're around the same

[soft ferry]

With steel rain stuff it is

[pseudo token]

And it still sucks hot ass

[devout cipher]

because it’s a ranked reward

[lean frost]

No

[soft ferry]

Correct

[soft ferry]

For an lmg

[lean frost]

No

[soft ferry]

Such insight

[devout cipher]

no other reason people are using it because it’s mid af and gets outclassed by most logs

lmgs

[stray rapids]

He built his s36 500ms ads 2m strafe just for a measly 20m 4 shot 47m 5 shot s36

[pseudo token]

Logs

[soft ferry]

Lots

[lean frost]

Dingo sucks as a LMG
Medium pen, Weak range, high stk, BV

[pseudo token]

Mmm

[soft ferry]

What attachments to use for sykov?

[pseudo token]

Yeah UL and Holger are just the 2 best

[paper quiver]

The BV is somewhat noticeable from the calcs that I did, range is nice to have as well.

Strafe again I think there are generally solutions to this. Not to mention, OTs can be built in a way that allows you to run both Gung Ho along with Skulker which is really strong on subs.

[soft ferry]

Should I use akimbo

[pseudo token]

No

[vernal nimbus]

Chopper is a close 3rd

[soft ferry]

Are they better than other pistols without akimbo? Seems like it

[lean frost]

The strafe is the same as the standard build
And the ads time isn't that much worse than the standard build
Smh porky

[soft ferry]

Chopper fun af

[pseudo token]

Akimbo makes it garbage past 5 meters

[stray rapids]

I think s36 just sucks

[pseudo token]

Yes

[soft ferry]

Yes

[lean frost]

I dont think its great
But i definitely dont think it sucks

Probably abit below chopper or hades

[stray rapids]

Yeah i heard the shake is pretty good

[stray rapids]

Abit below?

[lean frost]

Depends on how u look at it
Chopper and hades have significantly better mobility, But S36 actually does have comparable firepower and solid bsa

Atleast its not as bad as dingo

Or M4LMG

[stray rapids]

How good is 117 and pk overall compared to the top guns

[pseudo token]

If u use sync fov aim shake isnt that bad on like any guns

[stray rapids]

I don't sync fov

[pseudo token]

I was jus lyk

[lean frost]

I also just love S36's reload time
feels very noice

[lean frost]

Very epic

[pseudo token]

Well we dont use lmgs for reload speed ww use them so we dont have to reload

[lean frost]

You'll have to reload eventually
Unless your a RPD CCB user
And the S36 having such a fast reload for a LMG feels very nice if ur playing aggro with it

[paper quiver]

Hard to measure that ngl haha

If you were to ask me based on tiers where I would put them

Then I'd say like 2

[stray rapids]

Krig is 1?

[pseudo token]

Shouldve been me

[paper quiver]

Yeah

[stray rapids]

No 0 right

[paper quiver]

CBR lol

[stray rapids]

Oh no

Sickening gun

[paper quiver]

If we're talking about pure broken, then sure CBR isn't necessarily tier 0

But if we're talking about a gun that is able to do pretty much everything except being a main AR, then yeah

[stray rapids]

Pk or bizon

[paper quiver]

Bizon

[stray rapids]

Sad

[brazen dagger]

hmm maybe i'll try vdv later, do you think 32 round mag is better than 40 round?
because of the 0.84s reload you have with it

[stray rapids]

0.84?

Goddamn

[lean frost]

Thats half the time it takes for Agr to reload 👍

[stray rapids]

I get the same with fast ext mag B

Firm will balance it out

[lean frost]

I love oden

[paper quiver]

Depends on how you build the gun, but I'd lean towards 40 round most of the time

[brazen dagger]

i mainly play SnD so maybe there the 32 round will be superior, for respawn modes i found the 40 round to be better

[gaunt vigil]

Is this a good build or nah

[rich arch]

Yo

[lean frost]

No

[rich arch]

Does anyone have a good outlaw sniper class?

[gaunt vigil]

Can u help me pls

@lean frost

[lean frost]

Mono supp
Recon tac long barrel
No stock
45r mag
Tac laser

[paper quiver]

I can see that

[vernal nimbus]

Nah go with 40

[rich arch]

that supressor is huge~

[brazen dagger]

whqt would you say is the best build?

[paper quiver]

For S&D?

[brazen dagger]

<1s reload tho

[brazen dagger]

one for SnD and one for respawns

[rich arch]

Good ots build anyone?

[lean frost]

Theres a reason its called collosus

[rich arch]

yes because its collo sus

[long shoal]

Colossus suppressor biggwr than 3 1911s

maybe..

[vernal nimbus]

And more ammo lol

[paper quiver]

Hm, honestly, I am still testing out builds so I can't say that there is one that I'm perfectly happy with

[long shoal]

Anyways this smg is tiny

[vernal nimbus]

People make snd seem so calm but its not like that at all lmfao

[paper quiver]

I have like 4 different ones that I have on standby for performance testing

[vernal nimbus]

You’ll use ammo just as much as you do in respawns

[long shoal]

We do?

[paper quiver]

I never like to say a gun is meta/not meta or say a build is good/bad till I get some definitive performance testing done on it

[stray rapids]

Was m16 nerf considered heavy

[pseudo token]

Its very eerie when your in a like 1v3 situation

[vernal nimbus]

Its assumed
Snd - lower ammo is ok

Respawns - big mag is necessary
When you’re going to come across the same problems in snd

[paper quiver]

Well gun isn't considered meta anymore is it haha

[rich arch]

sleight of hand kinda useless

[stray rapids]

It was meta once?

[brazen dagger]

enough for two gunfights

[vernal nimbus]

I think majority of players here play in low tier lobbies and probably don’t stack

[vernal nimbus]

Im wiping 3-4 with 40

[stray rapids]

Pre nerf m16 over current lk?

[vernal nimbus]

4 might be a stretch but 3 nah

[pseudo token]

Herbo got that aim fr fr

[brazen dagger]

with the 32 round and gung ho the reload feels smexy, because you can kinda reload mid-gunfight if you had to

[vernal nimbus]

I realize how stiff my aim is when I watch my older YouTube videos(the stiffness is gppd)

[vernal nimbus]

U can do the same thing with 40 my guy

Whos reloading in the enemies face?

[paper quiver]

maybe? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich arch]

[vernal nimbus]

Whenever im reloading I’ve positioned myself behind cover

[paper quiver]

I never really thought about that tbh

[stray rapids]

A lotta peopel considered it overrated

Just a souped up icr

[brazen dagger]

with 40 round the reload is like 1.3s

[vernal nimbus]

Spectate me and moomay someday

[brazen dagger]

fair

[pseudo token]

Wyd rn

[brazen dagger]

just ping me

[vernal nimbus]

If you’re reloading mid gunfight you’re dead lol

[vernal nimbus]

Nothing wbu

[brazen dagger]

nah not the liberator barrel

[pseudo token]

talking in codm-gunsmithing

wanna rank?

[soft ferry]

Is kilo still meta

[vernal nimbus]

Yes

Im 200 xp off top 5k

[brazen dagger]

nice

[pseudo token]

I be on a losin streak

[vernal nimbus]

Use 75 ads fov and sync. Its the meta

[paper quiver]

That's a pretty decent class

[brazen dagger]

ok but thanks for the advice

[vernal nimbus]

Are you busy rn?

[pseudo token]

Am on 65 and Sync

[stray rapids]

Fast ext or just normal ext B

[paper quiver]

I have two classes I'm leaning towards, but not 100% sure yet

[vernal nimbus]

Interesting

[paper quiver]

Normal probably

[brazen dagger]

fov sync is only good on ipad

[vernal nimbus]

I settled for 75

[pseudo token]

This is untrue

As a phone player i will not take this disrespect

[vernal nimbus]

Are u free to spectate us?

[stray rapids]

Fov sync for people with good EYES

[pseudo token]

20/20 vizion

[vernal nimbus]

With 75 fov u dont need good eyes

[paper quiver]

I think it's more accurate to say that FOV sync is easier to use on pad due to the screen size, but it can be used on phone at a high level still

[pseudo token]

Thas why i play 65

[stray rapids]

U play gyro with fov sync right

[brazen dagger]

if i see you again in a few days i'll ask again

[vernal nimbus]

Its the standard fov for phone players and a safe in between for ipad
65-75

[pseudo token]

N o

I despise gyro

[stray rapids]

No gyro?

Oh wow

[vernal nimbus]

Start mumei

[brazen dagger]

that is true, atleast for me it was really hard to spot enemies with 69 fov and sync, but should i consider using fov sync?

[vernal nimbus]

No

Use it if you think you can adapt to it and it’ll contribute to your gameplay

[stray rapids]

Is reload speed considered slow on ots

[pseudo token]

(It contributes to my gameplay)

[vernal nimbus]

You’d use sync if you felt you wanted more fov when u zoom and less visual recoil

but overall sync isn’t necessary if u dont want those 2 or atleast one of the two

[brazen dagger]

no sorry, my connection cant load videos, maybe later tho when i am back home

[pseudo token]

Zzz

[paper quiver]

I always say that it's preference, if you think it helps you play better then go for it. If you think it harms your gameplay, then don't.

The only rule of thumb is to make sure you give it a fair shot in terms of how long you invest into it before casting it aside/committing to it

[brazen dagger]

i only really tried it once but maybe it could improve my gameplay, i will try it today in ranked SnD along with testing ots9 builds

[devout cipher]

autocorrect

[pseudo token]

That was 30m ago lol

[vernal nimbus]

This is what 75 sync looks like

[brazen dagger]

thank you, i will be testing it today

i also got another question, as a na45 leaderboard play i would love it getting a buff again, what do you think about its current state? would you say it should forever be banished from being able to compete with any other gun or should it be atleast viable?

oh and another one, what do you specifically look for when testing builds? mainly stats or also feeling/recoil?

[stray rapids]

I think feel is a really big thing

Underrated aspect

[paper quiver]

As someone whose mind is geared towards competitive, yes I think the NA45 should not be allowed to make any form of return

[paper quiver]

I see stats as the baseline for deciding whether a gun is worth playing around with for builds or not. Feeling comes after, especially as I try to make builds that are tailored towards my player's preferences

[stray rapids]

Statistically is icr good enough for comp

[pseudo token]

@vernal nimbus DMAN i suck

[vernal nimbus]

@pseudo token bro im the best igl out here fr

[pseudo token]

Fr

I love u my brave and fearless leader

Going Terminal A long with a smg

[stray rapids]

Rare herbo W

[vernal nimbus]

It was a warzone

[pseudo token]

Extremely common?

Tf

[stray rapids]

Right, my bad

[vernal nimbus]

Thank you

[pseudo token]

@vernal nimbus LOLOL

LOOK AT GUNSMITHING BUILDS

[vernal nimbus]

Extremely common mumei W

[stray rapids]

What smg our brave and fearless leader use

[pseudo token]

Ots

[stray rapids]

Holy

Massive W

[vernal nimbus]

Putting that in my loadout wait

[pseudo token]

☠️

[vernal nimbus]

Give him a like

@stray rapids go like the build in gunsmithing build

We gotta make sure his cursed build doesn’t die

[stray rapids]

Aight

[vernal nimbus]

He prolly thinking to himself “i knew this was a hit”

[pseudo token]

Lmao

[stray rapids]

They're just new smh

[brazen dagger]

i understand why haha, i just think that it should atleast get a recoil buff because the builds i have to use are very slow

[vernal nimbus]

Is he talking to us?

[stray rapids]

U sound so oddly formal

[brazen dagger]

Ok thank you, i got to go now but really cool to have a pro player/coach here.

[pseudo token]

Hes talking to a pro player

Its become an idolization thing

[stray rapids]

I idolise too

[vernal nimbus]

Do you idolise me

[brazen dagger]

bruh discord doind discord things by cancelling my reply

[pseudo token]

Yes

[stray rapids]

no Yes

[vernal nimbus]

Sigh

[brazen dagger]

well hippo is talking very formal so i might aswell do it too

[pseudo token]

Ok

[stray rapids]

U need to show more godly flicks maybe i idolise u

[brazen dagger]

and i like being formal, wore a suit to my 6 hour german exam lmao

[vernal nimbus]

@pseudo token wyd if she asks u out

[pseudo token]

GYAT

takin her to the nicest place

[stray rapids]

Catgang irl

[vernal nimbus]

Lmfao

Im using the new cbr meta build

[stray rapids]

Very stable build

[vernal nimbus]

I have a giant telescope ontop but sure

[stray rapids]

😰

I forgot scope was there

[vernal nimbus]

@pseudo token

[tawny walrus]

[vernal nimbus]

I was laughing because a guy died to my tripmine and I was thinking to myself “its so childish to die to, just pay attention” and I immediately died to one

[pseudo token]

That last kill

[vernal nimbus]

What happen

[pseudo token]

The crossbow lol

[vernal nimbus]

Did it stick him

[pseudo token]

Mhm

[pseudo token]

Thas tuf

I had my redemption arc tho

🙏

[vernal nimbus]

That cbr is ass

[pseudo token]

Lol

[hasty viper]

Bruh so close to 200k point

[pseudo token]

HE LOST THAT WITH A CBR

LOL

Thats kinda tuff

[vernal nimbus]

Are you using pin point

[pseudo token]

Yeah

Helps at really long ranges

why?

[vernal nimbus]

Thats crazy

Pin point taking over

[pseudo token]

im uzin it for the highlight

[vernal nimbus]

Its not banned in comp anymore

[pseudo token]

Mmm

Is it that good?

[vernal nimbus]

Extra aim assist is cheap to me

[pseudo token]

[vernal nimbus]

Wanna troll?

We getting grandmasters so fuck it

Not bout to get disrespected by matchmaking

[pseudo token]

Sure

Watcha wanna do

[vernal nimbus]

Melee only

[pseudo token]

@vernal nimbus this games broken

My lunge locked onto this dude and i was INSIDE him

And missed both my punches but then he noscopes me with a hdr

[pseudo token]

And i wasnt even on his crosshair*

[vernal nimbus]

No more melee

@pseudo token lets name ourselves Hisoka and Gon

[tranquil rapids]

hi

[abstract shell]

Average

[abstract shell]

I am better

[pseudo token]

B r o

[vernal nimbus]

slowest shit i seen u do

[pseudo token]

Lets not speak of that

[queen echo]

Damm

[pseudo token]

i dont even know why

[vernal nimbus]

Lmfao!

[vernal nimbus]

1v1

Lets test it

[pseudo token]

Test wha

[vernal nimbus]

75 fov

[pseudo token]

1v1’s are boring

[vernal nimbus]

Im testing your new settings

[strange rivet]

So we getting KD huh

[devout cipher]

wtf

[strange rivet]

Cygnoux build moment

[pseudo token]

Ggs

[vernal nimbus]

Ggs

I told you

75 FOV sync is the meta

[pseudo token]

lol

Ill try it

[vernal nimbus]

You were using it then?

[pseudo token]

Mhm

[vernal nimbus]

Almost beat me

[pseudo token]

zzz

[vernal nimbus]

Granted u did play slower than I did and spawn trap me

[pseudo token]

; )

[vernal nimbus]

But u definitely outgunned me alot

[pseudo token]

Only twice

But you used to spawn trap me so

[vernal nimbus]

@brazen dagger this is after killing 2 people with no reloads

With this I’ll be able to drop 2-3 more people

@pseudo token 75 sync is the meta huh

[pseudo token]

lol sure

[vernal nimbus]

JUST ADMIT IT

dont say sure

Admit it proudly

[pseudo token]

Yes 75 fov is the meta

[vernal nimbus]

Mf going double digits in snd

[pseudo token]

Thats common zzz

[vernal nimbus]

Pulls up our last few games

[pseudo token]

OUR keyword

Check my games from last night

I was doin rlly good

[vernal nimbus]

Losing streak wtf

U didnt even drop double digits consistently

Only 3 out of like 10 games

[pseudo token]

Zzz

Anyway

@vernal nimbus after this 1 ima go

Ill get on in a hour or 2

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 6

[glass flax]

Qq9 loadout?

[pseudo token]

LOL

[vernal nimbus]

Lmao

[pseudo token]

@vernal nimbus he Mic’d up when you couldnt talk back anymore

[vernal nimbus]

“Who are you” he asked

[pseudo token]

What a pzy

[spice zealot]

Someone pls give me a maddox loadout for br

[keen gazelle]

60 🥱

60 fov + rytec

[brazen dagger]

yeah i started using 40 round mag now too because the reload isnt too bad

[uneven anchor]

60 ☠️

[rich arch]

@pseudo token @vernal nimbus silly elite matches be like

[pseudo token]

Zzz

[devout cipher]

i cant even be saved in pubs lmao

“jesus calm down no name its only a casual”
-child

[odd heart]

Hii any one help me with to get legendary gun

[devout cipher]

light supp
stalker scout
fmj/soh
7r mag
(idfk what to put because lasers are shit for snd)

[devout cipher]

purchase cp from the store

then use that to buy lucky draw

[odd heart]

Alright thanks

[devout cipher]

it isnt cheap btw

[odd heart]

You doing mode?

[devout cipher]

?

[odd heart]

Like hack?

[devout cipher]

no

[runic marsh]

Each gun 100$

[devout cipher]

hacking is for the weak

[odd heart]

😂😂

[devout cipher]

skulker perk?

yeah thats why you use the stock

in mp you stack ads speed on snipers

yes.

fmj is fmj
soh is sleight of hand

it isnt mandatory

its a useful attachment if you want faster switch but don’t want amped

[rich arch]

good enough

nope
only thing you can do is add the tac laser ig

nah
most mfs don't see the laser
even in leggy lmfao

[devout cipher]

automod trippin fr

[devout cipher]

sometimes they do sometimes they dont, ive been baited a lot of times because of the laser so i just take it off lmao

[rich arch]

think fast chuckle nuts

[devout cipher]

my eyes

[rich arch]

lmfao

silly boy

[devout cipher]

im gonna go piss people off

[narrow glen]

@devout cipher, 23

[devout cipher]

got a bot lobby but this build is fun af for some reason

[tepid torrent]

Yes

[hollow edge]

Ots?

[brazen dagger]

i love my ots9

[vernal nimbus]

Lmfao

[brazen dagger]

he still lost

[brazen dagger]

top 5k player got butchered, he was using mythic gaeblade

[viscid belfry]

axe sucks

[viscid belfry]

lmao

[brazen dagger]

the ots9 is my new favourite smg

[viscid belfry]

nice for u

[brazen dagger]

should get a swap time buff

[brazen dagger]

thanks

[pseudo token]

Zzz

[brazen dagger]

@vernal nimbus i changed my sens from 120 to 135 and suddenly i play better

tried fov sync but it harmed my gameplay more than it did enhance it

[willow gorge]

Gks build pls

[brazen dagger]

not an expert but i would say mono, light stock, laser, 32 round mag, gran

[brazen dagger]

actually sad ngl

[haughty bluff]

Light stock,monolithic,short barrel,32 round fast reload,laser/grip

[brazen dagger]

wasnt far off tbh

[haughty bluff]

Didn’t see your message while typing lol

And yeah when she doesn’t say about her play style everyone give standard build

[haughty bluff]

Cringe builds

[silk dew]

You mean gayblade

[lime wave]

hey y all usec da ul736?

[fair blade]

All I understood out of that was UL

what

[lime wave]

da full gun name ul736

based of a real british lmg

[fair blade]

Not gonna spit out that wordvomit every time

UL easier

[lime wave]

listen i know alot of shit about guns even though bein a kid

[fair blade]

You gonna clarify this or

[lime wave]

ye i use it

bro ya name lmg abuser

[fair blade]

yur

[lime wave]

?

im an f2p player

also gtg

[runic marsh]

Good gun with the right build

Any game mode

[lime wave]

ye

i build da ul with accuracy and decent mobility

[austere igloo]

Ul736 is much bttr than ppl give it credit for

seriously

[jolly linden]

I need advice on which guns to use in mp rank..?

[austere igloo]

cbr qq9

holger rpd ul736

kilo141

m13

all these r meta @jolly linden

[jolly linden]

Thanks... Been having trouble in rank.. Haha

[haughty bluff]

Swordfish swordfish and swordfish

[keen gale]

🗡️🐟

[austere igloo]

[tranquil iron]

I need gks

[tranquil iron]

Fennec

[austere igloo]

y

[haughty bluff]

Light stock,monolithic,short barrel,32 round fast reload,laser/grip

[tranquil iron]

[haughty bluff]

[keen gale]

I dont line gks because of its aimshake tbh and non existent no stock attachment

[austere igloo]

no

[austere igloo]

gks has aimshake???

[keen gale]

yup

[tranquil iron]

It has aim shake?

[haughty bluff]

Who are you actually?

[austere igloo]

doesn't look that way to me

[haughty bluff]

I gave standard comp build

[tranquil iron]

I don't feel the aimshake

[austere igloo]

more like standard dump build

[keen gale]

try hg40 its gud

[haughty bluff]

Passive

[keen gale]

wonder when will it get a no stock attachment

[austere igloo]

never

[keen gale]

[austere igloo]

gks doesn't need no stock attachment to be good

[haughty bluff]

You are dumb or comp players?
Also it’s verify by rice

[keen gale]

calling u dumb uh oh

[haughty bluff]

Bro saying my build dumb after 1 year of gunsmithing

[austere igloo]

who tf r u anyway

& hving a comp build doesn't make u a pro

[haughty bluff]

Been here much before you

[austere igloo]

does that matter?

[haughty bluff]

Dude kills mobility and range on his build and saying it’s better

[austere igloo]

holy shit lmao

mine is the standard build

urs is not

the standard gks build has always featured ykm integral suppressor

[keen gale]

who needs range first of all its an smg

[austere igloo]

idk where u got ur idea of putting light barrel + mono supp on gks

[haughty bluff]

And stack bsa on smg

[keen gale]

such as waste attachment for mono ifs theres a better one tbh

[austere igloo]

real

[runic marsh]

Gks is nice carries me in ranked

[haughty bluff]

Integral suppressor is good but it make the build aggressive not standard

And he didn’t say anything about his play style so people should send standard

[austere igloo]

and why would u want to make gks aggressive to begin with?

[mild garden]

renetti loadouts?

[austere igloo]

gks was never meant to be an aggressive smg

we hv other smgs for that purpose

[haughty bluff]

Do we even have passive smg

Devs made smg for close range

[fallow ginkgo]

I need a squad on Cod Mobile

[tranquil iron]

I started a war just by asking for a gks build

Didn't need the laser

I play snd

[haughty bluff]

It’s not the first time

[austere igloo]

fast reload + soh

[austere igloo]

how much reload speed do u want?

yes

[tranquil iron]

Cause why not

[runic marsh]

Rice build

[haughty bluff]

Laser could be useless for him if he pre aim

[tranquil iron]

Oh yeah I'm using gks as my passive smg

Because the aggressive smg role is for my fennec

[haughty bluff]

I actually gave this build and begin called dumb

[keen gale]

Above is using intergral, your build is below now see whats more aggressive has more bsa!

[tranquil iron]

My pride and joy

I don't really mind BSA

It doesn't affect me that much

[haughty bluff]

Do you use smg to kill in 40 meters??

[crimson bay]

Fennec was ridiculously fun to play when it first came out, it seems kind of average now, at least to me

[tranquil iron]

It still shreds

[crimson bay]

Maybe I got used to it, but there was definitely nerfed

[tranquil iron]

I'll use fennec only this game

[rich arch]

Yo what adjustments should I make on this ICR for mp?

[errant mango]

DLQ gunsmith plss

[narrow glen]

@errant mango, 1

[jolly linden]

This gun let me down in rank.. Haha

[jolly linden]

I dont have it maxed out so ya

[tranquil iron]

Welp it just carried me this game

Game went from 2 - 4 to 5 - 4

[jolly linden]

It is decent but the gun is not for me.. Haha

[tranquil iron]

@haughty bluff give me the worst possible build for the worst gun as long as it's not burst

[austere igloo]

But what if it is a burst

[austere igloo]

None, it’s perfect

Bcoz my worst wpn is a burst

[tranquil iron]

Give me a terrible gun that's not a burst gun

[austere igloo]

Terrible gun huh

[keen gale]

mac10

[boreal owl]

the UMP

[boreal owl]

Bk

[tranquil iron]

Bruh what the McDaddy is good

[austere igloo]

Use this ^ @tranquil iron

[tranquil iron]

Tf you mean bk bk is good

[austere igloo]

Dogwater gun

[boreal owl]

It’s mid

[tranquil iron]

Got it give me a few minutes

[boreal owl]

Bro famas is great fym

Just aimshake

[keen gale]

smart rifle blueprint doesnt have as

[rich arch]

I’m doing well in ranked with it currently

[boreal owl]

Snd with laser

Bro is brave

[austere igloo]

nice

[austere igloo]

yea it doesn't

[fiery grove]

Yo guys is this build meant for close range gunfights?

Wait that’s the wrong build.

This build

[tranquil iron]

Give another bad gun

[stray rapids]

WWW

[stray rapids]

Don't think there's a comp build for gks

Who even dares to use gks in comp

[fiery grove]

@stray rapids I need an OTS build that’s good for recoil somehow.

[stray rapids]

Well

I butcher recoil but it feels good to me

Agency supp
Vdv barrel
Tac laser/striker fg
Mag B
Firm grip/striker fg

If u really need the recojl

[jolly linden]

Does anyone have a rytec build for mpv... Hope i spelled that sniper name right

And maybe a fast ads locus mp?

[austere igloo]

Yes u did spell it right

[jolly linden]

This is the build i have at the moment and i dont know if its good?

[austere igloo]

Kinda bad actually

Use short light barrel instead of ext barrel

& laser isn’t needed

Stippled will do

[jolly linden]

Thanks.. Haha

[midnight lantern]

[long shoal]

i finnaly got gold LESS GO

Now all i need to do is get gold on makarov

[viscid belfry]

no one asked but nice

[wary prism]

Nice

[wise steeple]

loadout for dingo?

[austere igloo]

Why dingo? That lmg is ass

[austere igloo]

Ok now go & get diamond on lcar

[wise steeple]

for camo

[fluid copper]

I find mythics so cool tbh

[austere igloo]

That dingo isn’t a mythic tho

& while mythics stand out cosmetically, it doesn’t provide much of an edge over the base guns

Aside from custom irons & less aimshake

[fluid copper]

Sorry I should I been more specific I meant skins

[narrow glen]

@fluid copper, 2

[austere igloo]

[fluid copper]

I just find the look and stuff cooler than the regular skin

I usually like looking at inspects and death affects when I can in a match with people who have it

[austere igloo]

I know Im gonna get flak for this but this makarov build is carrying me to gold

[lean frost]

Mw11 is a better makarov
Leaves

[fluid copper]

Is this a good kilo build

[lean frost]

No

If a build has strike foregrip
Its gonna be bad

[long shoal]

Hell no, i like to remember the touch of grass

[fluid copper]

I didn't know what else to put tbh most of or all my classes are randomly put together

[lean frost]

Something like this

[fluid copper]

Ahh alright thanks and could I get ur opinion on my hdr build

[lean frost]

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