codm-gunsmith-help

[lean frost]

@vernal willow

Simple as that

[vernal willow]

Imo the difference is gigantic

[jade cape]

isnt it like 2% movement speed and sth sth else

[lean frost]

I love saving 1% movement speed and 2% ads for losing 20 rounds

[jade cape]

its like

3ms of ads for 20 rnds

why not

[lean frost]

Just dont use a mag if ur not gonna use 80r
Saves a slot for granulated

[jade cape]

(its kinda like that for every kind of big mag anyway)

[lean frost]

Kilo's 100r

[jade cape]

thats wayy too gigangic from the extended b

[brazen dagger]

pistol ranked from worst to best
8. crossbow
7. j358
6. mw1911
5. lcar
4. shorty
3. renetti
2. makarov

1. deagle

[exotic cloak]

It’s pretty much a holger

[brazen dagger]

you guys agree?

[rich arch]

Makarov no 1

[exotic cloak]

I’m actually stupidly accurate with a crossbow

[jade cape]

i would put the j358 above the mw11

it can still 2sk just that its kinda weird from the deag

[brazen dagger]

i just cant play with that thing, it is so weird hahaha

[brazen dagger]

how?

[jade cape]

the mw11 is weird too

[exotic cloak]

I would put the mw11 1st and maybe the 50gs second

[narrow glen]

@exotic cloak, 5

[rich arch]

.>
Akimbo automatic

[jade cape]

it has more camera recoil than the deag which is silly

[brazen dagger]

only good until 6 or 10 meters

[exotic cloak]

Is crossbow really that bad?

[brazen dagger]

deagle is just much more versatile

[jade cape]

you wont even hit the broadside of a barn with that thing

[brazen dagger]

yep, without a doubt

[boreal owl]

Ehhhh

[lean frost]

J358 being that low is complete bull

[jade cape]

crossbow real weird

[exotic cloak]

I’m literally green arrow with the crossbow

[boreal owl]

1911 is too low

[exotic cloak]

So easy to use

[lean frost]

Makarov above Lcar and renneti is... questionable

[brazen dagger]

i hate the j358 for some reason

[jade cape]

i would better use the d13 than the crossbow

[exotic cloak]

D13 is mid

[boreal owl]

Makarov OVER 1911 is questionable

1911 is very versatile and super accurate

[brazen dagger]

nahhhhhh mate you trippin haha

[exotic cloak]

I bought the whole draw just to get the firebreak🫥

[jade cape]

my list
1.deag
2.everything else
3.crossbow

simple

[lean frost]

Its more like
1.Deagle
2.J358(Better stats than deagle, but doesn't have aim assist soo)
3.Lcar
4.1911

[boreal owl]

Well 1911 has no bsa and no recoil

[brazen dagger]

better stats than deagle?

[boreal owl]

So you can even challenge snipers with it

[exotic cloak]

Crossbow actually needs justice💔

[jade cape]

wdym by no recoil

[lean frost]

Absolutely

[boreal owl]

Faster rpm

[lean frost]

Only dis-advantage is no 1 shot headshot

[jade cape]

less ammo

[brazen dagger]

1911 has a very low fire rate compared to makarov tho

[jade cape]

u forgor

[lean frost]

U wont need more than 8 bullets for a cqc fight tho
Unless u suck at aiming

[boreal owl]

It has decent aa and like I said

Every shots are accurate

[brazen dagger]

well yeah but only effective until 20 meters, beyond that it is a 3 shot

[jade cape]

would you use the 80 mag for the sykov

[boreal owl]

Most of the time you wouldn’t use revolver out of 20m

[jade cape]

if you dont use the sorokin

[boreal owl]

Cuz that’s primary job

[lean frost]

Personally i would use a better pistol
But if were to use makarov, yes

[brazen dagger]

the thing with j358 is that it feels omega weird for me, like borderline unusable

[jade cape]

people will spam deag anyway so

[boreal owl]

Aimshake is probably the problem

[brazen dagger]

that is true

[exotic cloak]

I like the j358

[rich arch]

if it has 80 use 80

[lean frost]

Well, i heard the standard gun does have insane aimshake

[boreal owl]

Yes this

[exotic cloak]

They might need to nerf the makarov

[lean frost]

Abomination blueprint has none, which is probably why i like it

[exotic cloak]

It’s basically a mini fennec

[lean frost]

Nah

[boreal owl]

And that IS grindable

[lean frost]

Its fine where it is

[brazen dagger]

i use the abomination skin but even with that it feels as if someone gave me an uppercut after every shot

[boreal owl]

That’s weird

[jade cape]

anyone can throw a j358 build here

[boreal owl]

Abomination has no aimshake whatsoever

And I really mean it

[jade cape]

i dont really like the guneven with the zombie blueprint

[brazen dagger]

maybe i just like the deagle as much because the legendary feels so good, maybe the default deagle feels bad aswell

i just know that the leggy deagle has like negative aimshake

[jade cape]

nah default deag is fine

[lean frost]

Deagle just has insane amounts of aim assist

[brazen dagger]

light trigger, 8 round mag, gran, owc tac/soh, elb

[brazen dagger]

yeah that too

[lean frost]

Flash guard, short barrel, light trig, 5mw, 8r reload

[brazen dagger]

i got so many headshots with it

[stray rapids]

I do bad with deagle for some reason

[jade cape]

short barrel?

[lean frost]

J358 short

[stray rapids]

J358 fun for sniping

[jade cape]

yeah i mean why choose the short barrel

its not that great for me

[lean frost]

J358's mainly good for cqc
Short barrel just provides that ads time and mobility

[rich arch]

can anyone make an m13 build for objectively-agressive play style

[quiet jackal]

Does anyone have an aggressive dlq build or loadout?

[jade rover]

Carnage

[devout cipher]

light barrel
combat stock
fmj
mag
light sup

[brazen dagger]

silencer barrel, 60 round mag, no stock, granulated, owc laser

[jade rover]

Fennec is better than QQ9

[exotic cloak]

Fennec has mentally high V-Coil

Unusable

[brazen dagger]

not really

[jade rover]

But it’s only V-coil

I mean as an all-round gun ofc QQ9 is better

[brazen dagger]

not unusable but pretty skill-based

[lean frost]

Fennec runs out of ammo too fast
Needs bigger mag
Give 80 round drum

[jade rover]

But for an aggro niche fennec is

[exotic cloak]

QQ9 gives you a steady fire rate with lower recoil

[brazen dagger]

if you can handle recoil fennec is better than cbr4

[jade rover]

CBR if you want an all round SMG, Fennec if you want an aggro SMG

QQ9 is sorta in between

[brazen dagger]

fennec has 4 shot potential until 20 meters

[exotic cloak]

My all rounded one is switchblade🤷🏿‍♂️

[rich arch]

W

[jade rover]

Yuh crazy

[brazen dagger]

yeah

[brazen dagger]

switchblade is full aggro

[lean frost]

But i use corditae

[exotic cloak]

I play defensive most of the time but i can go aggro if i have to

[exotic cloak]

What’s the build?

[brazen dagger]

elb, mono, gran, 80 round, light stock

and use toughness

[exotic cloak]

My switchblade is pretty goodish but i need it to get some sort of buff to crossmap players

[unique pendant]

Hi is the new pistol a troll?

[exotic cloak]

What

[lean frost]

[unique pendant]

Makarov a troll pistol

29 damage bruh

[exotic cloak]

I think you should just use the monolithic suppressor

Should increase damage a bit

[exotic cloak]

You are using a full auto barrel to it conflicts with the damage

[brazen dagger]

nah, oil can way better

[exotic cloak]

Oil can is better for damage but it’s difficult to make a damage build while compensating for increased ADS time.

[lean frost]

It's a akimbo build

[brazen dagger]

also for single full auto oil can is better because it massively increases range and doesnt harm bsa

[exotic cloak]

Oh-

Fairs.

[young dragon]

guys i found a bug in Makarov,it seems when i equip SSL 308mm barrel and equip reflex sight,even though it is equipped i do not see it on the gun
(also i would like to provide evidence but i do not have permission to attach files,pls help me with that)

[swift abyss]

oh my god the l car is so goodge

why did i never know of this before

[exotic cloak]

It was op in the bo3 days

It was butchered in codm

[brazen dagger]

cause you didnt try it before

[swift abyss]

💀 no one asked me to

[brazen dagger]

why cant you send a picture in here?

[swift abyss]

i need to know of goodge guns from yallz

[brazen dagger]

na45

[young dragon]

server does not let me

[swift abyss]

[exotic cloak]

It had dual wield in bo3 but i might try the gun later tonight

[brazen dagger]

go to #╭╴roles-info

[swift abyss]

[exotic cloak]

It was overpowered

[brazen dagger]

na45 is goated

[exotic cloak]

That beep sound it makes is just no

I hate it

[brazen dagger]

i am global no. 9 right now

was no. 5 last week

(with na45)

[exotic cloak]

It would be easy to be global with a mid gun

[autumn grotto]

I was no.12 on dlq33

[young dragon]

uhh....when i press there is nothing

[narrow glen]

@young dragon, 1

[autumn grotto]

But , i abandoned the game for a long time

Now , i am not top on dlq33

But , i am trying to take my top again

[exotic cloak]

It’s easy to be global with a mid gun like the NA45

Guns like krig and kilo and cbr4 is the real challenge

[bold bison]

Hdr or zrg?

[autumn grotto]

Dlq33

[bold bison]

For be?

[autumn grotto]

I was no.12

[bold bison]

Br*

[autumn grotto]

Mp

[bold bison]

How about for br

[autumn grotto]

I was top 12 on dlq33

[exotic cloak]

I stay true to dlq anyway

[autumn grotto]

But,now i am not

[exotic cloak]

Between the ZRG and HDR i say ZRG

[bold bison]

Teach me the ways

[autumn grotto]

I abandoned the game long time ago

[bold bison]

Is this for br?

[autumn grotto]

Okay, i will teach you

Make your movement faster , master any weapon you love to play with it then, play rank search and destroy and bring with you the little thing that destroyes any gernade and make your aim better

You must play 4 fingers or more ok

[exotic cloak]

Yeah for BR i say you use ZRG

[narrow glen]

@exotic cloak, 6

[bold bison]

How make aim better, I mean my aim is a beast at close-mid range but slightly bad from long range (like really long)

[exotic cloak]

Train your reflexes in 1v1s

You need to have a sharper reaction speed

[bold bison]

I always do 1v1s and I win 😄

[exotic cloak]

1v1s are good practice

[autumn grotto]

Okay, practice many times in practice rang from far

[bold bison]

Yeah that's probably it I don't have good reactivity

But my aim is a beast

[autumn grotto]

Summon bots then, make it too far

[bold bison]

I use 3💀

[autumn grotto]

Can you snipe well with 3?

[exotic cloak]

My reaction speed is good but my aiming is what I’m working on

[autumn grotto]

Wanna be top on sniper or assult and smg?

[bold bison]

Yeah I can pretty much quick scope close - mid range but as I said not as good as very long range

[autumn grotto]

@bold bison

[exotic cloak]

I can handle most ranges

[autumn grotto]

I handle every range🤣

[bold bison]

Yeah ig I just bought a new phone my old one was 32 GB only💀

[exotic cloak]

Alright then

[bold bison]

Damn u must be a demon

[autumn grotto]

I will tell you some thing

But, you will not believe me

[bold bison]

OK?

[autumn grotto]

I have 2 accounts ok

One of them got banned

[bold bison]

How?..

And why

[bold bison]

Wish I was like that

[autumn grotto]

Because i am kiling the enemies when they are behind the walls🤣

[bold bison]

Oh I keep seeing videos like that kinda like a montage

[autumn grotto]

No , i am serious

[bold bison]

Well thank you for the tips

[autumn grotto]

Wanna be top in smg and assult or snipers?

?

[bold bison]

Yeah ig

[autumn grotto]

Choose

[bold bison]

Prob snipers I'm more confident on that

[autumn grotto]

Okay try my tips

Ok

[bold bison]

I will thanks again

[wary tulip]

need an akimbo and a single build for makarov

[brazen dagger]

try it with na45, wont gain points after 5k

[exotic cloak]

That gun is too mid for my taste

[olive marten]

Anyone here got a akimbo and normal makarov builds?

[rich arch]

Almost there need 100 more games

:))

[rich arch]

No unfortunately

[olive marten]

It’s ok I got them thanks @rich arch

[rich arch]

Np problem

[brazen dagger]

i need 8 more lol

[rich arch]

Send ss ?

Fk u bruh

U just need 8 more for diamond ots 😭😭

[main cloud]

anyone got a m13 build but with an optic

[brazen dagger]

can rn, i'll send a ss later when i get back on

[brazen dagger]

hlb, 40 round mag, optic, no stock, owc tac laser/granulated

[rich arch]

Sude

Sure*

[brazen dagger]

also halfway done with makarov

buying the ots9 leggy tomorrow

[rich arch]

Can u buy it for me as well?

[rich arch]

Bruh go touch grass and get a life

[exotic cloak]

What if CodM is his life

[brazen dagger]

nah sorry only got money for one

[brazen dagger]

it kinda is rn

evwn tho i got my final exam tomorrow

[rich arch]

It's fine

[brazen dagger]

lmao

i saw it

[brazen dagger]

but it is fine, i only need 24/120 points and that is basically free

[rich arch]

Fk this

[brazen dagger]

lmaoooooo

[pseudo token]

Goofy

[brazen dagger]

try harder

[pseudo token]

[brazen dagger]

please dig your grave

[rich arch]

Rip

[pseudo token]

Ass

[rich arch]

I changed the build

[pseudo token]

good

[brazen dagger]

i am studying rn btw

[rich arch]

But I wanted to flex the gold on this gun 😂😏

[pseudo token]

Why

Its been out for a few days now

Gold isnt really a flex

[rich arch]

Coz u were flexing dlq diamond

[pseudo token]

Im sure theres already alot of diamonds

[rich arch]

Lmao didn see any

[pseudo token]

I was just showing the amazing build

[rich arch]

Cap 🧢

[pseudo token]

Not cap

[pseudo token]

Best dlq build you should use it

[lean frost]

Amazing 0 mobility Lcar

[pseudo token]

Beautiful

[brazen dagger]

bootyful (of D)

[lean frost]

It was suggested by porky himself

[stray rapids]

Do u love the build or smth

[fresh sage]

Ok I'm tempted to use tac laser ots

[brazen dagger]

not worth it

use my build or my. build with fast extended mag b

[lean frost]

Its dogshit

[fresh sage]

Eh already have one similar except tape to striker foregrip

Very dummy strafe

[brazen dagger]

wirh skulker too

over 5m/s strafe

[lean frost]

Oden is really fun to use

[brazen dagger]

i use 32 round mag and firm grip to have a <1s reload

plus good strafe still

[lean frost]

Funny potential 145~ ms ttk

[brazen dagger]

sks is a better oden lol

[stray rapids]

Weak

[lean frost]

Sks is alot harder to use tho
I have skill issues

[lean frost]

I love 3.5 m/s strafe

the recoil still isn't good enough

Hipfire feels bad

[stray rapids]

Sounds like a skill iss-

[lean frost]

Probably becuz its 180 bsa instead of the normal 112

[lean frost]

2/10 build
atleast it has agency supp

[stray rapids]

165ms ads too

[lean frost]

i dont care

I had to remove firm and put on 5mw becuz the hipfire felt garbage

[stray rapids]

Hipfire weakling smh

[lean frost]

Why the fug do i have granulated

Pretend thats rubberized

Pharo unironically very strong cqc gun

@stray rapids try pharo

[stray rapids]

Very sexc mak

[lean frost]

Stop doing it with every gun that gets released

They're 1 day old

[brazen dagger]

fair enough

[lean frost]

But have u tried pharo

@stray rapids try pharo

[stray rapids]

Doing wot

😭

[lean frost]

Unspoken skill issue

[exotic cloak]

Do you use the maevwat round in 1v1s?

[vernal nimbus]

I am the best gunsmither here. Change my mind

[lean frost]

Truly the gunsmither of all time

[main cloud]

what can i switch for an optic

[pseudo token]

Do not use that build its a complete joke lol.

But no i dont use maevwat at all

[exotic cloak]

I finish college this year and i play a lot of codm

[lean frost]

Gran

[long shoal]

[lean frost]

😭

@stray rapids he just like u

[exotic cloak]

Yeah those rounds are hell in 1v1s

[pseudo token]

Optic on a kilo is criminal

[exotic cloak]

So frustrating

[lean frost]

Nah
It has dogshit aimshake

[pseudo token]

The stun dont last long so

[exotic cloak]

Don’t use optics

[pseudo token]

I dont feel it

[brazen dagger]

nice, after i finish my exams i will play alot of codm too

[pseudo token]

._.

[vernal nimbus]

Mfs who build ads movement speed on a pistol they won’t ads with for more than 2 seconds

[main cloud]

ive been missin shots the past 2 matches, leave me alone

[vernal nimbus]

Nvm

He tanked his ads movement speed

[pseudo token]

Sounds like u needa go to the firing range

[vernal nimbus]

W build

[long shoal]

Lmao

[lean frost]

He already ruined his ads capabilities anyway

[vernal nimbus]

U either tank it or dont use it

[exotic cloak]

I would lock him in a federal prison if he used an optic

[vernal nimbus]

Its the ONLY way

Who tf wants to strafe with a pistol

[main cloud]

i meant with the kilo man

[lean frost]

Unspoken god build

[main cloud]

dont do me like that

[vernal nimbus]

Imma test it

[lean frost]

True

[long shoal]

Idk man, im just trying to hit headshots and longshots for gold

[lean frost]

Should i put disable on oden

[exotic cloak]

Never

[lean frost]

Why not

[exotic cloak]

Disable is a mid perk

[long shoal]

Oden already has disable, its called DEATH

Oden is stronk

[lean frost]

I wanna put disable on oden
@vernal nimbus what should i remove for disable

[exotic cloak]

I recommend fmj instead

[lean frost]

and no im not changing the rest of the build

[haughty bluff]

Disable on oden

[vernal nimbus]

Laser

[lean frost]

I wanna put disable so its easier to hit followup shots since the gun has dogshit rpm
How will Fmj do anything

[haughty bluff]

Who tf hit leg with 3 shot weapon?

[vernal nimbus]

That’s not ideal ngl

[lean frost]

[vernal nimbus]

Disable does make it easier on paper but at the same time

Just build your gun to where u dont hit legs too often?

Maybe more stability

Bsa if the oden has a bsa problem

[exotic cloak]

Better bulletproof penetration because if enemy goes inside say stim you want to catch them out before they got the time to recover and counter

Stability could be the problem

[lean frost]

I already dont hit legs effectively at all
But hitting legs with oden means its a gurranteed 3 tap

[exotic cloak]

Shift through and see what your options are

What are the pros and cons of the gun?

[lean frost]

Oden is already quite stable tbf and bsa is the best among any full auto
So neither of those are the issue
I just wanna make it easier to hit followup shots

[exotic cloak]

Disable doesn’t slow them down much

[lean frost]

Hmm
I guess i'll keep short barrel

[long shoal]

No one is gonna insult my build?

[stray rapids]

💩

(Forgive me)

@lean frost

Ots handles so beautiful

[lean frost]

Is disable on oden a good or awful idea

[long shoal]

Lmao

[lean frost]

I know
I've been using this gun since yesterday

[stray rapids]

I think I'm in love

[lean frost]

Answer my question

[stray rapids]

Man idk

[lean frost]

What do u think

[uneven anchor]

awful

[lean frost]

short barrel stays

[uneven anchor]

Stippled:

[lean frost]

Oden

[lean frost]

Naw
Short barrel gives movement

[uneven anchor]

for laser

[lean frost]

Not that worthless ads movement
Movement movement

[lean frost]

but
Laser gives more ads

And stippled hurts verticle recoil
cuz yes

[uneven anchor]

its a one frame difference, you wouldn’t want a laser exposing you now would you?

[lean frost]

But muh recoil

Its through the roof
Literally

[uneven anchor]

3%!

[lean frost]

recoil

[uneven anchor]

yeah stippled adds barely anythin

[lean frost]

Stippled eats like +9% verticle
Very homosexual

[uneven anchor]

uh no, stippled is very hetero trust me
i use it

[quiet jackal]

Best krig build?

[lean frost]

Ok its definitely homosexual then

[uneven anchor]

I-

[brazen dagger]

cavalry barrwl, agency supp, frim grip, lightweight stock, 50 round mag/40 round mag

[narrow glen]

@brazen dagger, 26

[lean frost]

Beautiful

Amazing gun

[brazen dagger]

wrong barrel

[lean frost]

naw

[brazen dagger]

L

[lean frost]

Correct barrel

[brazen dagger]

200mm barrel better

[lean frost]

No

Quick resp adds so much strafe and ads
200mm only adds a tiny bit of bv

[uneven anchor]

Bettr

[lean frost]

Morbius

Isn't sfod fast foregrip better?

+10% sprint

[quiet jackal]

Bruh whats the mag name

[uneven anchor]

movement speed affects sprint too

[lean frost]

Fug

[uneven anchor]

patrol overall better

[lean frost]

Petition to remove movement speed debuff from sfod

[uneven anchor]

then itd be OP ☠️

[lean frost]

How does it make u sprint faster but walk slower
Makes 0 sense

[keen gazelle]

that makes perfect sense…

[lean frost]

Still has strafe debuff
i think good enough

[keen gazelle]

your overall walk speed is slowed, but when you sprint youre faster

like for stats thats makes sense for irl yeah i guess thats dumb lol

[lean frost]

I mean
They did try to add no stock to a bullpup

[uneven anchor]

just saw off half the gun idk

[lean frost]

I say try since the "no stock" is really just
Removing a tiny bit of the "stock"

[lean frost]

true no stock attachment on bullpup

@uneven anchor 160 round pistol

[uneven anchor]

I love that oiluss can says obscures vision de buff but you can literally hide it

[swift abyss]

catto 🥺

hewwo 🥺

[uneven anchor]

Hi

[lean frost]

[swift abyss]

👉👈

[uneven anchor]

sin, run away with me~

gudmistgen

[lean frost]

[swift abyss]

🤨

[swift abyss]

post makarov gunschmitt

[uneven anchor]

mf couldn’t afford the utility bill

[lean frost]

No
Screenshot just weird

Beautiful

[uneven anchor]

oil can
auto barrel
light trig
gran
80 mag

[lean frost]

Technically makarov doesn't have gran

[keen gazelle]

oil can giving +1 range over mono

[uneven anchor]

wat

[swift abyss]

👁️👄👁️

[lean frost]

And theres 2 light trig

Specify

[uneven anchor]

the red one

[lean frost]

Aren't both red

[uneven anchor]

Stopid

[keen gazelle]

ones red ones burgundy

[lean frost]

U forgor the name

[keen gazelle]

[lean frost]

Close enough

I support single action light trig gang

[uneven anchor]

Its legit called lightweight trigger

[lean frost]

Lightweight trigger-Single action
Or
Lightweight trigger-Dual action

Which
One

[uneven anchor]

close enough

L. i was right, i go run away with sin
leaves

[uneven anchor]

Is dual better than singlus

[lean frost]

i dunno
Dual more funni

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

I dont like single makarov that much tbf

But it is very deadly cqc

[lean frost]

Have u tried
Ots9

[neat briar]

Hmm... How's my setup?

[uneven anchor]

im still teir 4

[lean frost]

Skill issue

[lean frost]

No 80r mag?
Heavy trig?
No auto barrel?
3/10

[neat briar]

Kinda fun to use tho.

[keen gazelle]

otis very good

not meta but definitely too smg imo

[lean frost]

amazing gun

[neat briar]

The val is nuts

[uneven anchor]

initial bsa helped val become good
copium

[lean frost]

i mean

[uneven anchor]

ayo?

[lean frost]

It is cqc gun
So initial bsa quite important

[uneven anchor]

You said it was shid :

[lean frost]

I have changed opinion about val
it is
beautiful
and
gorgeous

[uneven anchor]

you were wrong once, you’re not infallible this is so sad and tragic

[lean frost]

Val still cant do the job of AR tho

[neat briar]

OTM scar mags still useful?

[lean frost]

Which is why i said it was shit
So technically i was right

[uneven anchor]

scar ☠️

[lean frost]

They are the only way to make that gun usable

Ideally you'd use Em2 or Ak47 but OTM Scar works too

[uneven anchor]

cougar always find a way to come on top

[lean frost]

I've gone back to using S36

[uneven anchor]

bro

[lean frost]

wut

automodded
Unspoken skill issue

[uneven anchor]

[uneven anchor]

cougae

[lean frost]

S36 pretty good

[uneven anchor]

Cope

[stray rapids]

Ots is unbelievable amounts of perfection

[lean frost]

i think i still have peacekeeper instead of S36 in my main loadouts

[stray rapids]

My favourite cqc smg now

(i don't use cqc smgs)

[uneven anchor]

Try

[lean frost]

My favourite cqc smg is as val

[stray rapids]

Val pog

[lean frost]

I will literally morbius out of existence

[stray rapids]

What the hell liberator does

[uneven anchor]

movement sped

[stray rapids]

Ah

Tfb insted

700bv

Goodge

The hell is patrol fg

[lean frost]

Others: Bsa stack, strafe stack, balanced builds
Cat: sprint go brrrd

[stray rapids]

Ots easy enough to be an ar beam ngl

Ignoring bsa and damage

[uneven anchor]

It has literal melee sprint speed

like exact

7.25 sprint ots
7.26 sprint melee

[stray rapids]

Isnt there a stock that boosts sprint too

[lean frost]

Tac laser
Is de wae
[Not]

[lean frost]

He has that

[uneven anchor]

light stoc

[stray rapids]

I use with tac laser

[vernal nimbus]

I am the Ots 9 and cordite Guru

[uneven anchor]

cordite meta??

[stray rapids]

Light stock the one that gives sprint??

[lean frost]

U told me it wasn't de wae

[vernal nimbus]

Its better than the cbr

[stray rapids]

It probably isnt

But I'll do it

[uneven anchor]

lets go

[lean frost]

Light stock is sprint
Light weight stock is strafe
Yes i know
Creative naming

[uneven anchor]

called it

[stray rapids]

Show cordite midrange flicks

[uneven anchor]

ignore cordite flinch, its not real

[vernal nimbus]

Later

[stray rapids]

I'm this close 🤏🏻 to running smgs in rank

[vernal nimbus]

Smg is meta my friend

[uneven anchor]

mans hates smg’s

[vernal nimbus]

Use a ar on a longer range map or a holger

but smgs are meta

[stray rapids]

I use m16 on literally any map

Even cqc ones

[devout cipher]

fast as fuck boi

[uneven anchor]

m16

[devout cipher]

based

[vernal nimbus]

Lower fov + good mobility + can compete mid range and some can do good long range

[uneven anchor]

he did it, he did the build

[stray rapids]

Fat as fuck boi

Minor typo

[stray rapids]

Cordite?

[uneven anchor]

yeah

cordite 80 mag go br

[feral granite]

HDR optics is literally SVD optics but better

[stray rapids]

Ever since dropping cold blooded on some loadouts I'm inclined to start running different perks

[uneven anchor]

you can one man army objective with a mag that fat

and a gun that good

[stray rapids]

I'm already gm5, catch up when

[uneven anchor]

bro i dont plae garna

[stray rapids]

I play like 1 rank game per day

[lean frost]

Garna

[stray rapids]

U do have garna acc tho

Gm1 in garna

[lean frost]

Garna

[uneven anchor]

garna is not real

[lean frost]

Garna is not real

[devout cipher]

garna is not real

[uneven anchor]

blogal 👍

[stray rapids]

Where did arap go

[lean frost]

Oden is real

[uneven anchor]

unreal

[stray rapids]

Haven't seen him in eons

[lean frost]

@uneven anchor we know that

[willow gorge]

Kn 44 build pls

[uneven anchor]

what

[stray rapids]

He need to realise he can cook main ar m13 now

[vernal nimbus]

All smgs

[stray rapids]

Mono supp
Tac laser
Nostok
Mag
Gran

[vernal nimbus]

but yes cordite has those

[uneven anchor]

cordite cordite cordite

[willow gorge]

Thank you

[lean frost]

Even this?

[stray rapids]

I'll try ots first if i do good I'll cordite

Leap of faith

[vernal nimbus]

I was speaking on mobility and fov

[lean frost]

Laserphobia

[uneven anchor]

try sprint ots

Pork

[stray rapids]

Try sprint ak117

[vernal nimbus]

Its so traah lmao

[uneven anchor]

Really?

[lean frost]

Actual porky lcar

[uneven anchor]

Unreal 💀

[vernal nimbus]

Maxed out yeah because the barrel bro

[stray rapids]

I dunno how to justify this build, but my source is reliable trust me bro

[lean frost]

Unspoken 3.5 m/s strafw

[stray rapids]

He the kind of mf who tells Ricey what's good

[vernal nimbus]

This dude is inviting me to another 1v1 lmao

[vernal nimbus]

Its valid

[lean frost]

So essentially ur whole justification is "trust me bro"
But how do put 5mw laser on it
I need my 5mw

[vernal nimbus]

If i see anyone tell me that strafe speed on a pistol u wont ads with for more than 2 seconds is needed then no

[uneven anchor]

Teach him to respect

[vernal nimbus]

I rather have better recoil and bsa

[stray rapids]

Uncommon herbo W

[uneven anchor]

Your source must be liquidated

[vernal nimbus]

Wtf

Is it not common?

[stray rapids]

Common i mean

Big mistake

[stray rapids]

?!

[vernal nimbus]

Rare pork chop W

[brazen dagger]

extended mag b/extended mag a

[stray rapids]

Rare?

[lean frost]

Blink twice if ur being held at gunpoint

[uneven anchor]

uncommon L, lcar can hit more than 5 strafe

[vernal nimbus]

Mb mb common*

[stray rapids]

Herbae

[keen gazelle]

my otis build = best, yall know my builds smack

[vernal nimbus]

For what😂

[feral granite]

Df founder revealed the first legacy camo
And I kinda like it

[uneven anchor]

Its cool and fun and good

[vernal nimbus]

Wrong

[stray rapids]

Bro 5m is kind of overkill

[uneven anchor]

Right

[lean frost]

Why 5 m/s strafe when u have uncontrollable recoil

[uneven anchor]

Its controllable

[keen gazelle]

legit just an import qbz from cold war

[uneven anchor]

Yep, i said it

[stray rapids]

Gyro ass mf

[lean frost]

Gyro nerd

[uneven anchor]

[keen gazelle]

still good imo tho

[uneven anchor]

gaeyro mfs rise

[stray rapids]

Wha

[lean frost]

Qbz

[queen echo]

Does anybody hve a locus build??

[lean frost]

Which one

[keen gazelle]

is it not the qbz in cold war

[lean frost]

qvz
Qbz
Im confusion

[keen gazelle]

qbz*

[stray rapids]

Someone give him locus build

[feral granite]

Speaking of cold war I still need to get the stoner gold viper (I still need headshots)

[queen echo]

Thts wat im asking for

[keen gazelle]

stoner looks soo good but sucks imo, alot of better options yk

[stray rapids]

Light supp
Ext mag
Fastest ads stock
Stippled
Short barrel

[lean frost]

Light supp
Short barrel
Skel stock
Stippled
Mag/perk

[stray rapids]

Smh gotta do the heavy lifting here

[lean frost]

Noob
Slow

[stray rapids]

Ure slower than me on my screen

[queen echo]

Thanks

[feral granite]

Pretty sure the M60 and the MG-82 is the meta LMGs in CW, not sure about the RPD

[stray rapids]

No problem

[lean frost]

Unreal

[stray rapids]

Fornicate

[lean frost]

What

[stray rapids]

Kize having trouble breaking 15% accu on games where he smack

[lean frost]

No
What do u mean
By this

[stray rapids]

Meanwhile I'm getting 18% on my worst games

I'm just based that way

[lean frost]

0% accuracy in wotb

[rich arch]

L

[stray rapids]

More like 100% accuracy 0 penetration

[lean frost]

Unspoken skill issue

[stray rapids]

Goddamn brits

[lean frost]

Mf just ignored my question aswell

[stray rapids]

Where

[lean frost]

[stray rapids]

I just felt like flexing my vocabulary

Fascinating derriere

[vernal nimbus]

@uneven anchor

Return and play br with me

I found a br cheat code and format we can follow

[lean frost]

But why choose that particular word

[stray rapids]

[lean frost]

[stray rapids]

That guns feels as smooth as lapa in hipfire fr

Lapa/ots loadout

[vernal nimbus]

He wants to bang

his head against the wall

[rich arch]

Is a 20-30% accuracy with a smg in ranked good?

The new one

[vernal nimbus]

Yes but what is your K.D

[rich arch]

Just a lil above 1.00

[stray rapids]

Accuracy is gud

Kd is not

[stray rapids]

Need to be aiming for 2kd average

That's what i aim for anyways

[rich arch]

I kept dying because people were hiding in corner

[stray rapids]

Bruh

Worst kinds

[keen gazelle]

bruh

[rich arch]

Yea it’s painfull dying in that type of way

[vernal nimbus]

Check your corners

Im going to show you what skill looks like

You must either be consistently consistent or consistently Inconsistent

30.0 headshot is insane with a smg

[keen gazelle]

bruh put me in your lobbies already i get bored of gm😔

[vernal nimbus]

U sure?

[rich arch]

im about to get out of grand master

[devout cipher]

i’m gm5

[rich arch]

im going into legendary today

[keen gazelle]

yeah i used to play high ranked cause my friend was top 5k

nothkng but cbrs and i hated it but my teamates were actually good at least

[vernal nimbus]

Those are Lb players lmfao

[keen gazelle]

nothing but accuracy in those lobbies its crazy

[vernal nimbus]

They’re still grinding lmao

[lime meteor]

can i have an OTs 9 build for snd

[brazen dagger]

agency, tfb, firm grip, fast extended mag b, striker fg/lightweight stock

[lime meteor]

thankss 😄

[brazen dagger]

no problem, if you have any problems with recoil use vdv barrel instead of taskforce

[lime meteor]

aightt

[rich arch]

type 25 loadout for snd pls

[silk dew]

Wow type 25 for snd. I’ve never seen anyone use that weapon in snd, not even in HP

[devout cipher]

9.8% accuracy

this is the result of shooting melee users dead bodies with akimbo makarov

[rich arch]

i wanna try it 😭

[silk dew]

Well, it’s better to try other weapons lol

[rich arch]

now that i think ab it.. i don't think I've seen anyone use it either

[rich arch]

hmm which one?

[shadow abyss]

Pls how do I get legendary guns

[silk dew]

I haven’t played snd for 2 seasons, so I don’t know weapons to say

[silk dew]

By buying them

[shadow abyss]

Okay thanks

Am new

[silk dew]

Ohhh. I see. You have to buy co first

Cp

Check your store. You will see it

[ebon swift]

i need the best gunsmith for makarov

[silk dew]

Makarov?

[rich arch]

Someone give me a MP build that’s worth a shit bc it’s my last AR to grind diamond. Imma start when I get on later this evening

[rich arch]

same

[rich arch]

this is what im using rn

@ebon swift

Lol

[silk dew]

Ohhh. The weapon that came out with the leggy skin. Pretty cool

[rich arch]

ima try this

[ebon swift]

ima test this

[queen echo]

Its is decent i would say

Imma give it a shot

[ebon swift]

this not that bad, i kinda like it, i've never used akimbo but imma give it a chance

[dire blaze]

i love akimbo vector on shipment

it brings me so much joy watching as i mow down annoying melee monkeys who think they're playing apex

[cinder cove]

Any suggestions on changes ?

[dire blaze]

swap laser for a foregrip

either ads time or recoil

[ebon swift]

marksman better imo

[cinder cove]

Thanks

[cinder cove]

Appreciate it

[devout cipher]

compensator -> mono
steady stock -> light stock

or use tac sup and marksman

[obtuse dune]

Anyone got kilo build ?

[dire blaze]

yea suppressor is the way to go with the p90 if you want a muzzle attachment

kinda surprised there isnt a barrel with a built in suppressor at this point

[west wyvern]

My room just set on fire

Can I get a ot9 build

[fresh sage]

Agency supp
Task force barrel
Ext mag b/ fast mag b
Firm grip tape/striker grip
Light weight stock

Would've go for firm grip tape if using fast mag b

[west wyvern]

Ty

[fresh sage]

No stock
Gran tape/extended light Barrel
Ext mag a
Tac laser
Mono supp

[keen gazelle]

that completely kills the purpose of his build

[kind karma]

need a Makarov build

[blazing gust]

Here

[keen gazelle]

full ammo on a secondary

range stacking on a finisher weapon

[blazing gust]

It was to grind diamond

[brazen dagger]

noice

[brazen dagger]

oil can really helps

[uneven anchor]

Diamond already

[vernal nimbus]

respond bruh

[uneven anchor]

i did bru

algaetraz

[brazen dagger]

yes and leggy tomorrow

[vernal nimbus]

Mp

[uneven anchor]

ok

[vernal nimbus]

I didnt know hp was on my bad

[uneven anchor]

lol its fine

mf also nuked

[vernal nimbus]

I forget to screenshot nukes nowadays

[vernal nimbus]

They holger spammed so I pulled mine out

🤷🏽‍♂️

[keen gazelle]

again, youre just finishing people off soo…

[vernal nimbus]

Needs some range still

[keen gazelle]

for one or two hits, definitely it does

[vernal nimbus]

You don’t know how close a low enemy will be all the time and if they’ll reposition

[keen gazelle]

🤦‍♂️

[vernal nimbus]

Right I’ll leave it to you

[keen gazelle]

im just speaking from experience, you guys are rhe lb peopme soo mayeb i mwrong

sick spelling

[vernal nimbus]

U got it bro

[brazen dagger]

thing is that you may also need your secondary for when you have to reload or you are in a cqc situation and cant use your lmg or whatever and for that you need some versatility on your secondary, also the oil can does really help with akimbo since the first range extends to 8 meters which can be huge

[devout cipher]

noticed my ttk with no muzzle being complete shit outside of point blank, might aswell try the oil can supp

[vernal nimbus]

🤐

[brazen dagger]

wasn't talking to you haha but to the other guy

[vernal nimbus]

I was agreeing with you but also not saying anything since I dropped the conversation

[brazen dagger]

ahhh ok

[uneven anchor]

lol i just stick spawn

[vernal nimbus]

Ots 9 is a beam

[uneven anchor]

holding A on that map scary

[uneven anchor]

im only like 20 tiers away ill get it soon

[vernal nimbus]

Lmao

[brazen dagger]

for real, i got it diamond today and i never had that much fun grinding diamond (aside from na45)

[brazen dagger]

hahaha

[uneven anchor]

makarov so fun

pocket smg GO

gg erb

[bold stream]

PP19 bison fast and aggressive build please, anyone?

[brazen dagger]

zrg with light barrel, armor piercing mag, stippled grip tape, combat stock and owc light suppressor

[scenic dome]

Anyone got a good M13 build?

[devout cipher]

pls change that bizon loadout

u nuked the range with light supp and lca

[bold stream]

Thanks uhhhhhh....broski??😅😅

[rich arch]

Anybody got a good makarov pistol gunsmith they can share?

[uneven anchor]

thats some nice trash

[pseudo token]

Yeah but the makarov takes 10 years for a bullet to connect so its not like its even worth using anyway. Your better off just going for the 1 tap with your sniper anyway

[uneven anchor]

makorv good

[pseudo token]

Your build statistically is hot ass

[pseudo token]

Dk what people your fighting but no

[uneven anchor]

I pair with UL and its smackin

[pseudo token]

I tried using it for like 2 hours yesterday

I tried so many builds

[uneven anchor]

i use akimbo

[pseudo token]

Oh so the version that isnt usable past 5 meters unless your enemy is blind, deaf, has cancer, and is already half dead?

[uneven anchor]

Fire

[uneven anchor]

its pretty useable

[pseudo token]

cant relate

[uneven anchor]

mumei cope?

[pseudo token]

Was running a hipfire accuracy build and it took like 50 shots to finally kill

He was borderline standing still and my crosshair was over him the entire time

[uneven anchor]

run oil can

[pseudo token]

Thats not the issue

The issue is none of the bullets were connecting

[uneven anchor]

?

[pseudo token]

It has stupid low bv

either that or i was lagging but i had 50 ms

[uneven anchor]

its like hit scan for the ranges you want to use it anyways

[rich arch]

Could u send the build? I'm trying out different builds

[pseudo token]

I think the pistol is mid asf besides for finishing a hm

[uneven anchor]

mid asf?

[pseudo token]

Yes

[uneven anchor]

holy gigasauras bad take

[pseudo token]

That is my conclusion

[uneven anchor]

mumei-

[pseudo token]

cat

[uneven anchor]

Its a good gun

[pseudo token]

I was hyped for this pistol. Im not hating just to hate

The bv is hot ass

[uneven anchor]

450 is literally fine ☠️

[pseudo token]

to the point where i just cannot win gunfights with it

[pseudo token]

IT REALLY MUST NOT BE

Because i cant use the gun for shit

[rich arch]

Thanks

[pseudo token]

My first 2 bullets always hit

After that everything misses

[uneven anchor]

how

[pseudo token]

YOU TELL ME

[uneven anchor]

mumei

[pseudo token]

Cat

50 gs >

[uneven anchor]

Horrendous take

[pseudo token]

I prefer the pocket sks to the pocket mac 10

[uneven anchor]

you cant compare the two they both do different things

pocket smg for my beefy UL + gunho. Perfecto combo

[pseudo token]

Cannot relate

[uneven anchor]

when we play i show you

Makarov supremacy

[pseudo token]

Okay.

[keen gazelle]

you think it’s meta?

i dont see it being meta but its definitely good

[uneven anchor]

[pseudo token]

It could prob be called meta

But i dont think its the strongest gun

[viral kelp]

I highly doubt it’s meta, but I’ve been able to hold my own against Master players in ranked with it, so it definitely is a solid gun

[long shoal]

wait when did they add these?

[glass kelp]

At the beginning of last season

[long shoal]

Ultra nice

[glass kelp]

Man marksman rifles are the easiest of all the categories to get to platinum but snipers just stole the effort I want to put into it

[peak brook]

Same as the past 3 other cod games. Marksman are the most fun

[jolly roost]

Yo what’s the best shotgun (Ik that they’re all bad but sniper on shipment is kinda terrible sooooooo)

[long shoal]

Yeah cause its 4 lmao

[long shoal]

I think the HS0405

The lever action one

[vocal sparrow]

Anyone have a gunsmith for Makarov? (without akimbo)

[long shoal]

Akimbo?

[glass kelp]

I seen that u can put fast trigger on with the automatic barrel

[rich arch]

Anyone great mp ads ots build

[cloud tapir]

Any good Makarov builds without akimbo

[rigid lion]

Hail to the Makarov

[uneven anchor]

Based?

[narrow glen]

@uneven anchor, 60

[uneven anchor]

YOOO

LEVEL 60

5 more till master

[rigid lion]

It's a good pistol, Shipment with akimbo and everything leaning towards hipfire accuracy is amazing

[uneven anchor]

i want to say oil can sup is better than hipfire investment

oil can cuts the stks to 8 shots by extending that juicy first range

[long copper]

Wait is it u cant get makarov unless u buy the draw and get the ledgendary

[uneven anchor]

u can unlock it now, the makarov is in challenges now

[long copper]

Oh

Ok

[vernal nimbus]

@uneven anchor real ones run it semi auto

[long copper]

Where are the challenges?

[uneven anchor]

Real ones run

[vocal sparrow]

.

[uneven anchor]

not sure

ask herbo he uses single semi makorov

[vernal nimbus]

Sheesh

I was jp tho I don’t like the makarovs fr

[uneven anchor]

rare herbo L

[vernal nimbus]

Rare catgang L

[uneven anchor]

Makarov

Rare herbo

[vernal nimbus]

considering a harmless opinion as a way to identifying my dubs and loses

How dare you treat me this way

[uneven anchor]

Rare herbo

herbo rare

[vernal nimbus]

How u feel about the semi auto akimbos tho? It’s prolly not worth it

[hallow oyster]

What is a good build for the kilo 141

[sudden rain]

Actually they're not mine

[sudden rain]

Good acc

[sudden rain]

Fast ads

[long shoal]

I just beat the training mode accuracy challenge

Kar98

Wait wrong one

[fiery grove]

Yo guys, I’m trying to get the makarov rn but this challenge needs me to have my pistol equipped at the end of the match.

I have an LCAR rn, any builds for that?

[long shoal]

The lcar is pretty good

[long shoal]

I think this is the good build

Now here my kar98

[keen gale]

Is agr really an smg or an ar look at that bsa

[jade cape]

well you could just play the whole match with ur primary and when its about to end just hold ur pistol

[dusty heart]

Kills faster than the akimbo autos

[pallid minnow]

how do you guys max guns so fucking quick

[lean frost]

Xp cards

[long shoal]

Yep

Xp card op