codm-gunsmith-help

[brazen dagger]

just use this

[lean frost]

This good build

[whole moss]

light supp, mip light, combat stock, ext mag and fmj/soh

[stray rapids]

Omega mag?

[tribal lintel]

Okay thanks

[delicate raven]

my dlq is just for normal sniping

[tribal lintel]

Okay i take it

[brazen dagger]

you should try out zrg, it is great too

[delicate raven]

it got
owc ranger
free float
owc laser

bipod
ext mag a

[tribal lintel]

Wow okay btw nice skin 🥲

[brazen dagger]

thanks haha

[delicate raven]

my main sniper rifle is the locus

[rich arch]

who got dr h gs plz

[lean frost]

Mine is Rytec
but i have Locus in loadouts

[whole moss]

Mono
No stock
25otm mag
granulated
Owc laser

[rich arch]

tysm

[delicate raven]

i dont know how many loadouts i should use for what
i got 2 ar, 2 smg, 1 lmg, 1 shotgun, 1 marksman, 1 sniper, 2 free space

[whole moss]

Yes

[rich arch]

dr-h right

[whole moss]

Ye

[brazen dagger]

me stoopid

[rich arch]

That build was not good

[brazen dagger]

nah i put extended mag instead of otm mag

[delicate raven]

thoughts..?

[rich arch]

[brazen dagger]

i would use otm

this good?

[delicate raven]

ragh i love jumper cable too much

[rich arch]

No

[brazen dagger]

what? why

[rich arch]

Marksman to mono

[rich arch]

Too slow

[whole moss]

Mono supp
Mip light
Owc laser
LC mag
combat stok

[delicate raven]

im gonna clean up my loadouts a bit

[brazen dagger]

otm is required as it gives a better chest multiplier

[delicate raven]

any imput?

[rich arch]

Go with 25 round OTM

[brazen dagger]

ok thanks, i just found it to be too inaccurate and too less recoil control

[brazen dagger]

yeah yeah i meant that

[brazen dagger]

use na45

[delicate raven]

[ruby iris]

[brazen dagger]

i like my ARs slow

[ruby iris]

weak smh

[delicate raven]

my ars vary

[brazen dagger]

atleast for SnD

[rich arch]

But then why no suppression

[brazen dagger]

btw this is my SnD pkm build, it is for camping and preaiming purposes only

[whole moss]

Bro has to stop cooking

[delicate raven]

i dont play snd
i like having fun

[ruby iris]

man never tried old hvk for sure

[brazen dagger]

i actually did lol

[ruby iris]

back when it still had 4.9 bsa

[brazen dagger]

idk didnt have any problems without it, i can spot enemies with suppression too

[rich arch]

But then you'll be spotted cause of no suppression

[delicate raven]

solution
run away like a child

[brazen dagger]

through mini map?

[ruby iris]

ye

[rich arch]

Yep

[ruby iris]

i like my everything supped

[delicate raven]

i used to

[ruby iris]

similar

[lean frost]

How do u suppress a Fhj-18

[delicate raven]

but i wanted more good stats

[brazen dagger]

some people tryna use suppression on na45 lmao

[ruby iris]

i just dont use them

[ruby iris]

i did

[lean frost]

[rich arch]

Mf wants to suppress thumper

[whole moss]

Supp on na45
what a wus

[brazen dagger]

maybe i'll use tac supp instead of granulated

[ruby iris]

[brazen dagger]

what for lmaooo

[ruby iris]

i just hate being spotted

[lean frost]

yes
Just shove metal pipe with holes drilled into it onto gun

[rich arch]

[delicate raven]

self destruct go!

[lean frost]

Same thing for Fhj
But maybe use Oil barrel
Fhj huge

[brazen dagger]

you are getting spotted by the explosion

[ruby iris]

i aint using it cqc

explodes across the map

[brazen dagger]

btw i changed my mind, ill use mono instead of marksman on hvk

[rich arch]

Wanna play together one time

[brazen dagger]

thing with na45 is that the people using it are always in the same spots so everybody knows where they are before the match even starts

[brazen dagger]

sure, later today?

[ruby iris]

not for me

i use it like a conventional sniper

im dumb, yes

[brazen dagger]

you are special (needs) then

[rich arch]

sure, later today yeh

I'm fishing outside rn

[brazen dagger]

[brazen dagger]

i am on for the next 5,5 hours

[rich arch]

alright

[brazen dagger]

that's cool

[steady frigate]

Someone should please send me screenshot of a gks gunsmith 😩

[steady frigate]

Thanks

[rich arch]

god i love helpers

[brazen dagger]

me too

[steady frigate]

Yh

[narrow glen]

@steady frigate, 1

[minor pendant]

are the marksman faster ADS then sniper rifles?

Quickscope build for SPR pls

with scope

[wild thorn]

i thinks sniper is more fast

most of people got high kill using sniper than marksman

[rich arch]

Get me some fish

[rich arch]

Fast reload to 40 rnd mag

[minor pendant]

do you have a build for SPR quickscope with scope

[rich arch]

I hate scopes on the SPR

[minor pendant]

but pls try

then give me a standard SPR build and i will modify it

[lean frost]

Standard spr build gonna suck with a scope

Too much sway

[minor pendant]

imma just make a full ADS build plus the scope

let me see a system recomendation

[lean frost]

Tac supp
Light barrel
Combat stock
Scope
.300r mag
That's all i can think off

[minor pendant]

also pls a j358 build

[lean frost]

Flash guard
Short barrel
LW trig
5mw
8r mag

[minor pendant]

is stopping power bad?

[lean frost]

Yes

At that point
Use deagle
Give better aim assist too

[minor pendant]

when does WZM coming out?

ok the sniper is good

[minor pendant]

pls deagle then

[rich arch]

May, 15th

[minor pendant]

My current

[minor pendant]

phone will not be able to handle it

[lean frost]

Swap akimbo for LW trig

[lean frost]

J358 still better as a pistol imo
Deagle just got bussin aim assist

And SP J358 is a worse deagle

[swift abyss]

OwO

[minor pendant]

Grinded a lot when it came out

they changed the rank colors again, why?

the red was soo good

[rich arch]

dgo

[minor pendant]

now pls normal sprloadout

[rich arch]

How?

[lean frost]

Better rpm, Still 2 shots

[rich arch]

By how much

[lean frost]

I forgor

But it is a fairly significant difference iirc

[rich arch]

[lean frost]

@rich arch 300ms Vs 365 ms

[rich arch]

Ms? In RPM?

[uneven anchor]

guys im back i promise im normal now

[lean frost]

I dunno

[lean frost]

Doubt

[uneven anchor]

cat gang would never be sus

[lean frost]

Probably just check tych's doc for rpm

[rich arch]

Ok

[minor pendant]

what is the meta SPR loadout pls

[uneven anchor]

HUH?

[lean frost]

Screenshotted

[uneven anchor]

cougar ss that

drop it rn

[lean frost]

Integral
Combat stock
.300r
Tac FG A
Free slot(Light bolt/Perk/heavy bolt)

This build gonna suck if u put s 6x scope on it tho

[minor pendant]

just without scope

[lean frost]

Use it then
👍

[rich arch]

No ss taken

[lean frost]

I did take

[rich arch]

But you DM'ed it

[lean frost]

[rich arch]

How many hours do y’all average on a weekly basis? 😅

[lean frost]

Unreal

[minor pendant]

any leak on the tounament gamemode?

[uneven anchor]

i cant ping kize

[minor pendant]

where to check?

[rich arch]

[uneven anchor]

just like me fr

HUH?

bro what ☠️

[rich arch]

Do you have IOS?

[minor pendant]

android

[rich arch]

Yes

[rich arch]

You average thumbs up hours?

[minor pendant]

but it has a function like this let me find it

[rich arch]

1000 hours per week

[rich arch]

Search “Screen Time” in you settings menu.

[wary tulip]

[rich arch]

Go to “App timer.”

Ooh!

Nm!

Apologies^

[wary tulip]

That is where I went?

[minor pendant]

i dont have that

[rich arch]

Oof! You can turn it on, if you’d like.

[minor pendant]

i mean i dont have that option

[rich arch]

Oh, I understand.

[minor pendant]

the only way i would buy iphone/ipad is for codm

[rich arch]

Some eye bleach for y'all

[uneven anchor]

@lean frost CORDITE PPSH BUFFS

[lean frost]

Corditae buffs might make it meta tbh

[uneven anchor]

bro everythings getting better

i love it

META SHIFT

[lean frost]

Look at wtf they did to M13

[uneven anchor]

I didnt even look at m13 goofy ah 5 stk

[lean frost]

As val got worthless buffs

[uneven anchor]

Ppsh meta surely

copius

My diamond master ppsh will see use again

Beautiful machine, thank you for everything ppsh

[brazen dagger]

is 40 rnd really necessary? cause the build is pretty aggressive

[rich arch]

1 frame ads buff

[brazen dagger]

worthless???????

[rich arch]

Yes imo

[brazen dagger]

initial bsa from 14 to 7

how is that worthless

thats huge

[rich arch]

Thats useless with the terrible BV

BSA wont mean shit if you got horrible BV

[brazen dagger]

atleast for midrange it is pretty good

[rich arch]

Razorback got headshot multi buff

[vernal willow]

What did they do to it

[brazen dagger]

now that is useless

[vernal willow]

my leggy m13 is carrying me in ranked rn

[rich arch]

Even mid is questionable because of the bad bv

[brazen dagger]

buff it so it could be meta next season

[rich arch]

Atleast it'll be infinite 5 tap after buffs

[vernal willow]

they are weird people for buffing it. It’s already strong enough

[rich arch]

They made it better basically

[brazen dagger]

true but since i got the mythic i love it

[brazen dagger]

yeah ok i'll give em that

[brazen dagger]

use mid range barrel

[rich arch]

Heavy barrel and silencer barrel as well as combat stock got buffs.

[vernal willow]

same but I got the (good) leggy

the pink leggy is shit ngl

[rich arch]

That BV boost barely does anything brotha

[vernal willow]

I don’t even use any of those

It makes no difference

Gonna be crinj seeing everyone running around with m13 now though

[brazen dagger]

it makes it near insta hit + the silencer barrel will be useful

[rich arch]

Heavy barrel will give 35 BV boost after update. Silencer will no longer have any ads reduction or BSA increase but will instead give 20 range and BV respectively but the recoil will now be 15. Combat stock will now give 15 ads reduction

[brazen dagger]

and the combat stovk can replace the no stock

[rich arch]

540 is not what i would call "instant" on the AS VAL

[brazen dagger]

that one is great too

there is a bug lol

[rich arch]

[brazen dagger]

oh sorry i thought you meant the bv increase on m13

[rich arch]

No problem

[brazen dagger]

has to be

[rich arch]

@vernal willow what do you think?

[vernal willow]

Still won’t be changing my build

[rich arch]

What is that recoil lol

[brazen dagger]

ohhhhh i had fmj mag equipped

[rich arch]

I'll use silencer barrel now

For more versatility

[brazen dagger]

but good to know that fmj mag has 1440 bv

[rich arch]

Bruh

[vernal willow]

Seems like mono does the same thing but with mini barrel I’ll still get good ads reduction and strafe speed

silencer barrel don’t have that

[brazen dagger]

still i never had a problem with as bval bv since i use it like an smg

[rich arch]

Except silencer is better because mono gives ads and bsa penalty. Silencer only gives 15 vertical recoil increase.

[vernal willow]

M13 already has good ads speed plus movement / strafe speed with no stock equipped. So there is no point to putting combat stock

[rich arch]

Silencer is now better than mono on M13

[brazen dagger]

well combat stock could be an option if you are playing with silencer barrel

[rich arch]

If you want aggressive M13, go with silencer now

[vernal willow]

ADS and BSA is hardly an issue on M13 to begin with. So I won’t be switching

[rich arch]

Except if you want aggressive M13. Then no stock is necessary

[rich arch]

Mini plus mono harms performance at range a ton. Plus you can get 40% range boost with little to no ADS penalty (if you have no stock and 300 blk)

Silencer is the superior option now imo

[vernal willow]

Silencer barrel and combat stock over no stock and mini barrel gives no movement speed or strafe speed buffs which is the main deal breaker for me. I would actually only say that silencer barrel and combat stock is better for a passive style of play.

[brazen dagger]

this is what i am using rn, maybe i'll change no stock to combat stock and use something else for gran

[rich arch]

Or you could just go with no stock and silencer and get all the mobility upsides of no stock

[vernal willow]

Imo it just depends on how you play

[rich arch]

Yeah i guess but silencer barrel is definitely much more viable now

[brazen dagger]

i play my m13 more passive since it has such a bad ttk up close

[brazen dagger]

definietly, but since the .300 rounds already give sound suppression it is just that weird mix between long barrel and mini barrel now

[vernal willow]

I don’t like to sit and shoot at range I easily rush more which makes mini barrel and no stock superior (to me) for its mobility alone. Especially in this meta where you have to go up against the likes of QQ9, CBRs, and Fennecs in many instances of CQC. Mobility is important

[rich arch]

Go with heavy plus mono plus 300 blk for ultimate passive

[rich arch]

I prefer silencer over mini now tbh. No stock does the mini's job already

[brazen dagger]

nah that is too much haha

[brazen dagger]

true, mini only gives 2% movement speed

[rich arch]

@lean frost what do you think?

[brazen dagger]

with the 35% bv on heavy long barrel it will go up to 1215 m/s

that is krig 6 territory

[rich arch]

Honest M13 is more suited for a versatile close to mid kind of playstyle imo

[rich arch]

Better than base krig

[brazen dagger]

ttk is bad tho

especially against smgs

[vernal willow]

I prefer Ext Mag B over .300 rounds.
That mag you’re using doesn’t provide anything outstanding since you already gain everything like Silenced rounds and faster reload times from other attachments on the the weapon

[brazen dagger]

yeah

[vernal willow]

I won’t argue that, I think you’re right on that

[rich arch]

Not really. 5 and 6 shot ttk is really good on it

[vernal willow]

not at all imo

[rich arch]

Cant ignore the 20% boost from 300 blk imo

[vernal willow]

use my build see if you like it @brazen dagger

[brazen dagger]

where is it

[vernal willow]

You already get that and more from Mono though which was my point. The .300 round mag is quite useless

[brazen dagger]

it is just the perfect mix for me so i can build for range without having to use mono and also having 40 bullets

[vernal willow]

Wait let me tag someone for this

[rich arch]

Except 300 blk doesn't harm your BSA which is its main strength over mono. Your build is bad for range

[vernal willow]

@stuck depot

[vernal willow]

Ext Mag gives 60 its alot better

[brazen dagger]

against smgs like cbr4, switchblade, qq9, fennec it cant keep up, so i decided to use it passively

[rich arch]

@undone sandal can you tell me the 5 and 6 shot ttk of the m13?

[vernal willow]

It’s not “bad” at range but moreso meant for rushing in. As I did state already that I don’t enjoy sitting at a range playing passively.

[brazen dagger]

with my build i get 55% range increase, 40 bullets, better bsa, better recoil, silencer and faster reload

[vernal willow]

@brazen dagger will you be using my build?

[brazen dagger]

yeah i'll try it now

[vernal willow]

Inferior movement though which I stray from

[rich arch]

Understandable. But it is really specific i will say that

[vernal willow]

if I wanted to use a long-ranged AR I’d pick up EM2 or LK instead honestly

[brazen dagger]

still has 3.03 m/s strafe speed tbh

[delicate raven]

whats a good gun for og zombies on codm

[worn barn]

Anyone got a kilo build?

[rich arch]

M13 has better 5 and 6 shot ttk

[vernal willow]

An LK24 has far superior recoil and less aimshake. Likely even better BSA too, haven’t tested that tho.

[rich arch]

Theoretically if you build the M13 for passive play, then it will have superior ttk at all ranges

[vernal willow]

Then what is your passive build for it

because for one ttk isn’t everything

[brazen dagger]

your build is quite good, only the bsa and recoild were a bit weird for me

passive build btw

[vernal willow]

and LK24 compared to a passive M13 is probably more versatile

[rich arch]

Keep in mind this is considering the new patchnotes, heavy long, mono, 300 blk, granulated and owc laser

[vernal willow]

Well I can’t test that yet I assume

[rich arch]

Its gonna be beat at close range

[worn barn]

@brazen dagger is it good?

[vernal willow]

a solely passive M13 beating LK24 at close range. I doubt that. At that point LK24 is likely the much faster and more versatile weapon. LK24 would only have to compete with a faster firerate

[rich arch]

*and better ttk

who got any kn44 op build 🍎

I have to check ads speed on passive m13

[rich arch]

No one

[vernal willow]

Mobility is the majority of the fight in close range

[rich arch]

u sure?

really?

[knotty cobalt]

Hmmst

[worn barn]

What abt kilo :>

[narrow glen]

@worn barn, 5

[rich arch]

[vernal willow]

Okay that’s fine

[vernal willow]

What say you, spaceraptor?

[rich arch]

Passive m13 has like 280 ms ads speed. LK with build had 250 ms ads speed. I think you negate the slower ads on the m13 with movement

[knotty cobalt]

A

[rich arch]

señors, did u try out the m16 full auto w/ attachments?

@vernal willow look at accu

[rich arch]

Damn clean sweep

[woven night]

Is this worth?

[rich arch]

asm10 gs?

[rich arch]

Lemme give you a gunsmith. ASM 10: lmao just a EM2

[rich arch]

thx 😊 🩸🩸

No but seriously: mono, ELB, owc laser, no stock and ext mag

ASM 10 build

[carmine jungle]

💀

[rich arch]

i am pro gaemer

[brazen dagger]

what is good?

[rich arch]

Nice

[rich arch]

quack

[worn barn]

M13

[rich arch]

Quack quack

[brazen dagger]

yeah really good

i love it

[worn barn]

I will maybe use it

[vernal willow]

EM2 gaming

[worn barn]

Ya got em2 build?

[vernal willow]

Not exactly but @rich arch does

[rich arch]

Agency, tfb, firm/ rustle grip, 40 rnd mag and either rds or agile stock

[worn barn]

Brb

But thx ya

[stuck depot]

What

[rich arch]

(shotgun)

8.3k exp already

only got here today

why tf is it easier than gm

[vernal willow]

You can argue with them about the M13

[vernal willow]

KRM?

[rich arch]

yea

[stuck depot]

About what

[rich arch]

im bored

[rich arch]

M13 silencer barrel next season

[stuck depot]

Theres changes to it?

[rich arch]

yea

[stuck depot]

I mean I never used the silence barrel anyways so doesnt affect me

[rich arch]

Yep. It will give 20 range and BV boost next season but it will no longer give ads reduction but it wont give bsa penalty either. Basically, a better monolithic

Oh and its only con will be vertical recoil increase

[stuck depot]

I guess it might be better but we would have to see how it actually feels

[rich arch]

I think it will be. You can get 40% range boost with it if you combine it with 300 blk with no ads penalty if you use no stock

[stuck depot]

Depends how u play with it if u wanna make it more flex its more worth using

[rich arch]

For flex build, it'll be a godsend

Honestly, i think I'll start using it for versatile build

[vernal willow]

Exactly

It’s only if you like to sit at long range

Even tho M13 is more of a mid range - close range AR anyway

[rich arch]

Thats exactly why i am advocating so heavily for the silencer barrel

[vernal willow]

Imo general mobility like movement and strafe is more important on something that’s meant for close - mid range than just more ADS time and damage range that is already there

The ADS time is already good too

I think the M13 hasn’t become better or worse

but buffing certain attachments is gonna make it more common in ranked definitely

[rich arch]

M13 mobility is already good. Silencer plus 300 blk has no effect on mobility and if you use no stock, then you will have smg level mobility

[vernal willow]

Mini Barrel has an effect on mobility and in a good way

Which is better than no effect at all

But

That’s just me

[rich arch]

I think this will be my build next season: silencer, owc laser, rds, 300 blk and no stock

[rich arch]

[vernal willow]

why rds

[rich arch]

I hate base irons. You can switch it for granulated

[vernal willow]

I think they’re good

[rich arch]

Ok

But i just cant with them

@vernal willow can you play with me?
or will it not let you?

[vernal willow]

@rich arch brehhhh you always invite me when my phone is dying

[rich arch]

oh so we can play

[rich arch]

hapi

[brazen dagger]

we love those teams

[vernal willow]

can you give me like 10-15 mins ? Then we can play

[rich arch]

imma play
take shower
and then <333

we gonna have fun

i will put you in leggy lobbies

[vernal willow]

Get a good blueprint for it 👍

[vernal willow]

Torture

Hopefully the ping is better this time

Alright see ya in 15 mins @rich arch

[rich arch]

nah even i use rds on m13 (i'm a hope codm wanna be)

[vernal willow]

@rich arch alright I’m back

just give me one sec to log in

[vernal willow]

I would say the BK-57

[rich arch]

EM2

@jade rover why are you not active anymore?

[jade rover]

I’m active just too many notifs

Why am I grey

Not red

[rich arch]

New change lol

[rich arch]

Damn. Would love to see you more here

[jade rover]

I’ll turn notifs on

[rich arch]

@uneven anchor ara is back

[jade rover]

[rich arch]

Have you seen the new patchnotes?

[jade rover]

Catgang… i remember such a person

[jade rover]

Nope

[rich arch]

Moomay

[jade rover]

Hopefully no AGR buff

[rich arch]

See them

[jade rover]

*not another

[rich arch]

Please

[jade rover]

How do I check

[rich arch]

Go to LOD

[jade rover]

Kk one sec

[rich arch]

They released em

[jade rover]

Holy mother of outlaw

[rich arch]

They're good right?

[jade rover]

Yeah great balancing, irrelevant guns getting playable now

Cordite looks cool

[rich arch]

PDW and Cordite boutta be next season

HG40 can 3 tap but only to upper chest

[jade rover]

Kilo finally best AR again too

Pretty big Krig nerf

[wild thorn]

ak47 op or not in this seasons

[narrow glen]

@wild thorn, 3

[jade rover]

No CBR nerf

[jade rover]

👎

[rich arch]

I think I'll change my m13 build after the update to this: silencer barrel, 300 blk, rds/granulated, owc laser and no stock

[rich arch]

Bruh thats barely a nerf

[jade rover]

Not the double stack mag?

[jade rover]

Yeah it is

[rich arch]

Yeah double stack

[jade rover]

10% less ADS time what you on

[rich arch]

[jade rover]

So why silencer barrel

Heavy barrel

[rich arch]

Ads time will still be good

[jade rover]

Yes but it’s a big nerf

10% slower ads time is bigger than it looks

[rich arch]

After buff silencer will give 20 range and BV boost and only 15 vertical recoil in return

[rich arch]

Ehh aint that big to me tbh

Krig will still be good imo

[jade rover]

Ye ofc

But heavy ads nerf

[rich arch]

Thats on an attachment not the gun itself mind you

[jade rover]

Won’t be an AR-SMG hybrid anymore basically

[jade rover]

Ye but everyone runs that

[rich arch]

Krig never was that.

[jade rover]

Sort of was

If you had mythic anyway

Mobility was rlly high

[rich arch]

Silencer barrel on m13 will be best for versatile build

[rich arch]

Kinda

[jade rover]

You can dominate a summit lobby with it, not many other ARs can say that

[rich arch]

M13 and kilo can

[jade rover]

Im gassed for cordite and outlaw tho

[rich arch]

So can the BK

[jade rover]

Deffo not kilo imo

I can only think of two or three ARs off the top of my head

[rich arch]

Outlaw buff wasn't anything major imo. The multi's still suck

[rich arch]

Bruh

[jade rover]

HVK large calibre

Krig

Maybe M13

Otherwise SMG is better

[rich arch]

But why even use krig in summit if you have the MP5

[jade rover]

15m DLQ hitbox

[rich arch]

Kilo is still good

[jade rover]

Kilo is my fav

[rich arch]

15 meters aint nothing

[jade rover]

It used to be 8

[rich arch]

Thats smg range

[jade rover]

Also not true 15 is deffo something

Yeah but outlaw has 315ms ADS time

[rich arch]

15 just aint it chief

[rich arch]

Yeah but why use it when the XPR exists lol

[jade rover]

Feels better for aggro quick scoping, dk why

I use DLQ zealot rn

Bit P2W

[rich arch]

Because it is tailored for that but its useless outside of that lmao

[jade rover]

(Finally gotten good at sniping)

[jade rover]

Well yeah

But you run outlaw to quickscope

[brazen dagger]

it was, range is too low to be a main AR

[rich arch]

What do you think about the HDR?

[rich arch]

Except it is?

[jade rover]

Blankscope or bust

[rich arch]

Krig literally has top tier range among ar's

[jade rover]

That’s not fair either

[rich arch]

Cant do blankscope reliably since it ads's slower than a whale moves

[jade rover]

That’s cap

HDR blankscope is amazing

[rich arch]

Its the GOAT in BR

[rich arch]

[jade rover]

It just is

[rich arch]

Nah. You'll be killed 10 times over by an smg by the time you ads

[jade rover]

That’s true for almost all snipers I guess

[rich arch]

Not for outlaw, dlq or koshka

[jade rover]

If you take into account SMG ads too it’s more than enough time

DLQ fastest is like 369ms, ofc you can beat SMGs as they need to ADS/not miss more than one round but head to head it’s impossible

[rich arch]

It takes HDR 485 ms to ads (with the fastest possible build mind you)

[brazen dagger]

oh me dumb

[rich arch]

Nah it aint it for blank scoping

Sorry ara

[brazen dagger]

but yeah krig is kind of a smg-ar hybrid

does anybody have the penetration scale?

[rich arch]

Razorback is now infinite 5 tap

[jade rover]

I promise it’s the best sniper in the game for blankscoping

[rich arch]

[jade rover]

Maybe koshka idk

This has the most noticeable effect

Still not good MP

Not trying to say it’s good

[rich arch]

In BR its fucking amazing

Fastest possible BV in the game with the pro barrel

[jade rover]

Mythic DLQ probs better for scope but I don’t play BR

[rich arch]

Sadge

[rich arch]

Take on the AGR?

[jade rover]

I mean it’s alright, overrated as fuck in my opinion

Didn’t notch into CBR/Bizon/QQ9/Switchblade etc

Tier just below that

[rich arch]

Nah, its neck and neck with all of em

[jade rover]

Better stay that way can’t have the cat being too happy

[rich arch]

Beats em all at range

[lusty cedar]

That's good

[rich arch]

@uneven anchor

[jade rover]

Blankscopes insane no?

[rich arch]

No

[jade rover]

Also

[lusty cedar]

Yes

[jade rover]

Wth bullet return

[lusty cedar]

It's good

[jade rover]

And 9 round mag

Cursed

Use 7 round

[lusty cedar]

For me

It's good

I lkie it

[jade rover]

What’s the point of bullet return

And 9 mag over 7

[lusty cedar]

Randomly after kill one ammo come back

[jade rover]

I know what it is

Why do you need that (and 9 rounds too!)

[lusty cedar]

Bcz

[jade rover]

Unless you miss every shot in a pub lobby

[lusty cedar]

No

Over 70% of shoot's hit the target

[narrow glen]

@lusty cedar, 8

[jade rover]

It’s a sniper

Use that build

[lusty cedar]

It's a sniper

Test my

[jade rover]

Use that

[lusty cedar]

Try my

[jade rover]

No it’s that obviously bad

[lusty cedar]

Don't rate it by looks

[jade rover]

Dw im not

What rank are you that you’re running that

[lusty cedar]

I don't grind ranks

[jade rover]

Use this enjoy

[lusty cedar]

For now elite

[jade rover]

I can tell

[lusty cedar]

But I want gold on hdr

[jade rover]

That’s a coincidence isn’t it

[lusty cedar]

So normal multiplayer is easier

[jade rover]

Because they’re mostly bots

[lusty cedar]

Exactly

[jade rover]

Anything works against bots

[lusty cedar]

On some player's too

[jade rover]

Use this 👍 same build as number 1 HDR player I believe

[lusty cedar]

I'll try

But my will be better

[jade rover]

No

Zero chance

[lusty cedar]

Because it's my first build which I think work

[jade rover]

Use that build

[lusty cedar]

Which map's on Frontline for sniper?

[jade rover]

You’ll see the difference immediately

Idk, who plays frontline

[lusty cedar]

Me

[jade rover]

Then surely you know which maps

Just run the build 👍

[lusty cedar]

👍

One last question

Which thing make your hdr better?

[jade rover]

Much faster than yours (435 vs 490ms)

And a suppressor

(And scope is better)

[lusty cedar]

Which crosshair pick?

Does plus will be good

[jade rover]

Yeah

[rich arch]

Best red dot?

[lusty cedar]

Ok

I tested it

It's better

[jade rover]

[vapid rock]

س

[rich arch]

??

[jade rover]

Classic probably

That or RDS 2 if you want an upper rim

Outlaw buff being slept on

[lusty cedar]

But normal tactical scope is better

Than 3 one

[jade rover]

15m DLQ hitbox, 37m pretty consistent 1HK, Hit Flinch 3.7->2(!), Base breath 0.5-2(!)

[jade rover]

I disagree but whatever floats your boat with the scope

[keen gazelle]

its not bad but, pls change the mag

[lusty cedar]

pop

[keen gazelle]

already with bullet return youll have at least 8 because of the 7 round mag

and if youre using it far back, id imagine you also have time to reload yk

[jade rover]

Who tf uses bullet return lol

[keen gazelle]

I use it

[jade rover]

Fr

[keen gazelle]

its a good perk

[jade rover]

Nah cap

[lusty cedar]

With my hdr I have like 13 bullet's

Easily

[keen gazelle]

i bet lol, 9 + return

i remmeber i used an spr build with max bullet mag and bullet return

[jade rover]

7 rounds is plenty for a sniper

Hit your shot bot

[keen gazelle]

man the clips you could get eith it is crazy 😭 it was like infinit bullets

[keen gazelle]

then you shouldnt need a mag for any autos

[jade rover]

I play SnD in fairness

[keen gazelle]

it only takes 5 bullets at max right

[jade rover]

Galaxy brain comparison

[keen gazelle]

no because it only take 5-6 bullets

just hit your shots, see how dumb your argument is

[jade rover]

Yeah so you shouldn’t ever need to reload one mag for an entire SnD game

Can I ask for any individual bullet fired

Are you more likely to hit with a sniper or an AR?

Raid - you’re in money room and they’re running poolside

Sniper will hit every shot if you have good aim. Even with the best aim you won’t hit all your shots with say kilo. And they moved while you’re hitting them too. So every bullet needs perfect aim and it still won’t always hit

Idk why I’m wasting my time

[keen gazelle]

you said all of that just for me to say tldr

bullet return >> 🥱

[jade rover]

I mean if you’re going aggro Rytec maybe lol

But still no

[keen gazelle]

what do you think abt wounding

[jade rover]

If the sniper hitmarkers a lot, it can help to be able to pull out a machinepistol and spray (only need one hit). But very niche

[rich arch]

Real

[jade rover]

I think it’s underrated for snipers that hitmarker a lot. Otherwise pointless

[rich arch]

Outlaw

[jade rover]

Ye I run it with outlaw

[keen gazelle]

wounding on snipers

[jade rover]

But I don’t use outlaw rn

[keen gazelle]

told me everything i needed to know now 😭

@whole moss

[rich arch]

I dont think anyone was

[keen gazelle]

ranked when, bro did not want to win yesterday 🙅‍♂️💀

[rich arch]

It tells you precisely nothing

[keen gazelle]

tells you, tells me everything

[rich arch]

No

[jade rover]

If kize ever wants to win then idek what it looks like when he doesn’t

[keen gazelle]

how are you to tell me what it does or doesnt tell me

youre not me 💀 what the fuck

like what the fuck was your brain process 😭

[jade rover]

Can I say why that’s dumb

It’s the exact opposite

[rich arch]

The same can be said for you rn

[keen gazelle]

i dont see why not

[rich arch]

Cause you're stupid

[swift abyss]

owo

[rich arch]

[swift abyss]

[jade rover]

Maybe it’s lost in translation but assuming he’s fluent in English, you can’t tell something about someone else from whether they sometimes use wounded on outlaw. Other than they don’t have perfect aim

@keen gazelle

[rich arch]

Guy seems pretentious as hell

[jade rover]

Shup

I get told that all the time

I speak like this i can’t help it 😭

[rich arch]

Get told what?

[keen gazelle]

no way you didnt understand him

he thought you said hes pretentious

[jade rover]

^ and if you meant Bryan he doesn’t seem pretentious

[rich arch]

Fuck me

[keen gazelle]

idk where the idea came from, just saying things to say things i guess

[rich arch]

Fucking hell man

[keen gazelle]

but anyways

[rich arch]

Im getting too old

[keen gazelle]

@whole moss

[rich arch]

Anyways sorry

[jade rover]

I assumed so because I don’t know how anybody could imagine you thinking you’re close to smart as opposed to a braindead meat-sac

[keen gazelle]

meat-sac

[jade rover]

Yeah a sac

[keen gazelle]

what green perk do you guys use

[jade rover]

Lol

I mean for snipers it depends

Toughness if more passive amped if not

Ghost if you’re gay

[keen gazelle]

i havnt found myself needed to use toughness

even for the sks, its low hit flinch with gran and tac a

[uneven anchor]

Why was i ping

[keen gazelle]

color change

[uneven anchor]

YOO

[jade rover]

I can’t remember catgang

[rich arch]

Ara is back

[uneven anchor]

ofc he would never leave me here alone

[rich arch]

[uneven anchor]

[rich arch]

He did for a few weeks though lol

[uneven anchor]

3 weeks no shot

[jade rover]

I was pregnant with a litter give a girl a chance to breathe

Idk what I said

[uneven anchor]

HUH

[jade rover]

Cats take two months anyway

[rich arch]

He said AGR was bad

[jade rover]

I didnt

[uneven anchor]

wtf is happen

[jade rover]

Said it’s the tier below CBR/QQ9/Bizon/Switchblade etc

It’s not as good as those

[uneven anchor]

basically saying its bad

[keen gazelle]

i might be gay

[rich arch]

Crucify him

[jade rover]

So hopefully doesn’t get a buff a meta AGR would be hell, purely because Catgang would be happy

[uneven anchor]

ayo

[keen gazelle]

ghost >>

[jade rover]

No you’re just dumb

[rich arch]

That tells me everything i need to know

[jade rover]

Kek wp

[keen gazelle]

that i take jokes lightly

and could care less for discord arguments 👍🏽

[keen gazelle]

i use the left for rushing and right for passive

[jade rover]

I’ll forgive you on that one as you’re American

[keen gazelle]

appreciate it

[uneven anchor]

americans 🤢

[jade rover]

Rofl 🤣

[jade rover]

No worries

😂

[rich arch]

said by an American

[uneven anchor]

Ara dont u have leggy cordite

[keen gazelle]

whats rofl, i always thought its rolling on the floor or something

but it doesnt make sense

[jade rover]

Nice it’s almost like I have no idea what the gunsmith is

[keen gazelle]

you dont need to 🥱 ill show rn

[uneven anchor]

yeah bruh fk americans ong

[jade rover]

(Could care less is dumb but Americans say that for some reason)

[rich arch]

said by an American

[uneven anchor]

so?

[rich arch]

PDW will be nest season

[jade rover]

Should be couldn’t care less

[jade rover]

Eh

[rich arch]

Just saying lol

[jade rover]

Better but

[keen gazelle]

ask me anything abt the build, i love answering questions

[jade rover]

HG40 >

[jade rover]

☠️

[rich arch]

Cordite too

[jade rover]

Ye

[keen gazelle]

no wuestions i guess then

[uneven anchor]

guys surely the ppsh is good

[sour osprey]

is there a gunsmith for qq9 which has almost no recoil

[rich arch]

💀💀

[uneven anchor]

Look at that buff

[viscid belfry]

cordite meta?

[jade rover]

I use 30 round, mono, recon barrel, no stock, ranger foregrip

[uneven anchor]

just use the regular build,

[jade rover]

Borrowed from a streamer

[rich arch]

Say ppsh best smg in a mirror three times, then an entity called rice will smack you

[keen gazelle]

no questions? 🥱 thats what i thought

[uneven anchor]

since when does qq9 have recoil

[jade rover]

It’s a clever build

[sour osprey]

how's the recoil for the build

[rich arch]

#codm-gunsmith-help

[viscid belfry]

LMAO

[sour osprey]

since ever

[uneven anchor]

hot

[jade rover]

You’re here

[rich arch]

Yeah i got one, why is it so bad?

[rich arch]

True

[uneven anchor]

[jade rover]

Basically nothing

[keen gazelle]

its not, i mean you can ask anybody i play with, i top frag

[sour osprey]

so currently the best smg is qq9 right?

[jade rover]

CBR probs

[sour osprey]

damn man ill try it then

[uneven anchor]

👍

[rich arch]

Hi

[rich arch]

A skilled player can make even trash work

[keen gazelle]

plus its bad to you hut perfect to me, i spend hours on my build designing it to my liking

[keen gazelle]

yeah but this isnt trash

you can ask like why this or that

[sour osprey]

took ss thx man

[rich arch]

QQ9 up close beats anything

[keen gazelle]

fennec

[rich arch]

Ok

[uneven anchor]

cbr kinda mid

[sour osprey]

also is there any other very versatile and an aggresive gun for pushing rank

[jade rover]

This is better imo

[rich arch]

Fennec inconsistent. QQ9 has consistently fast ttk

[uneven anchor]

ara please stop cooking

[jade rover]

Not my build

[light iris]

Ayo

[keen gazelle]

inconsistent? like at 10m and less rnage or

cause im taking about very close

[light iris]

Build for xpr for quickscoping?

[uneven anchor]

definetely an ara build

[sour osprey]

fennec is shit the recoil on this thing is way to crzy

[uneven anchor]

truly a hipfire kilo 141 moment

[keen gazelle]

that sounds like a skill issue

[rich arch]

Few seasons ago i would've murdered you for the 10 mm rounds but now i wont, I'll instead murder you for ranger foregrip

[jade rover]

As fast as possible plus suppressor and damage mag or whatever it’s called

[keen gazelle]

i wanna know why its inconsistent below 10m

[light iris]

Ok

[jade rover]

I wanna hit my shots

[uneven anchor]

Just pull down bro

[rich arch]

You cant hit legs, QQ9 can

[keen gazelle]

cause to me if feels very like, it never changes

[jade rover]

Hitman made that QQ9 build

[keen gazelle]

oh well in that case yeah, i dont rlly hit legs soo i never notice the change in trk

[keen gazelle]

fennec is shit cause of recoil😭

[sour osprey]

bro the amount of pull i need to pull for fennec to remain in contact is 💀

[keen gazelle]

thats the craziest one ive seen yet

[jade rover]

Definitely granulated>disable

“Muh fast firerate”

[sour osprey]

needs like 2 ipads space

[rich arch]

I think I'll change my m13 build after the update

[sour osprey]

also qq9>fennec and cbr

[keen gazelle]

and i thought i played with low sense

[rich arch]

True

[sour osprey]

wont change my sense just for a fennec aint worth

[jade rover]

CBR is better

[sour osprey]

also idk why yall overhyping cbr its not tht good broski

[narrow glen]

@sour osprey, 1

[rich arch]

Opinion on BK57?

[uneven anchor]

[sour osprey]

💀

[jade rover]

Post your BSA

[rich arch]

No

[keen gazelle]

it really is, ar range, recoil and bsa for an smg

[rich arch]

Its good

[sour osprey]

qq9's singular bullet>cbr entire career

[keen gazelle]

plus the ttk is amazing at range as well

[jade rover]

It’s like 35 or something

[uneven anchor]

Silencer barrel?

[keen gazelle]

im not one to use the cbr but it is very very good

[sour osprey]

idk man its rlly weird

[rich arch]

Yep

[uneven anchor]

25 bv kinda wicked

%

[sour osprey]

also krig or qq9 in the currnt meta?

[jade rover]

Even

[uneven anchor]

It still does 5 stk so

[rich arch]

20 damage range too with only recoil penalty

[sour osprey]

hmm

[uneven anchor]

@sour osprey be like, unusable

[jade rover]

CBR is King idc what anyone says. The nerf it got was tiny, it got ONE nerf, none since, it’s still the best

[sour osprey]

fr

[rich arch]

True. Monolithic will be useless after buff

[sour osprey]

bro oden>cbr

icr>cbr neg diff

[jade rover]

Nah

Trolling

[uneven anchor]

whatcha gonna do with the extra attachment

[sour osprey]

cbr is just a bit weird to use man its like a troll gun'

[rich arch]

Prolly put the laser

[sour osprey]

like there are SO many alternative to cbr which are better imo

pp>cbr

[trim turret]

i hate people who still use cbr

[undone sandal]

can't even use mono if you have silencer barrel lol

[jade rover]

Catgang how you surviving with 33 BSA

[uneven anchor]

its like a minima difference

[sour osprey]

cbr is mid idc what yall say

[uneven anchor]

33 from like 31 who cares

[jade rover]

29 vs 33

[uneven anchor]

Thats cuz you have shiddass ranger grip

[jade rover]

Yeah and

At least run granulated on yours instead of disable

[sour osprey]

also what are yall thoughts on drh and kilo

[uneven anchor]

In comparison to the normal build its literally nothing

[rich arch]

Ik. Btw whats the 5 and 6 shot ttk of m13?

[sour osprey]

🤓

[uneven anchor]

i run gran but no laser so my qq9 image is outdated fr

[jade rover]

You get 29 BSA with granulated. 33 if you decide to use disable

[jade rover]

That image didn’t have laser either

[uneven anchor]

oh

[rich arch]

Disable kinda viable on qq9 in close range since you can hit all legs

[uneven anchor]

i stupid

[jade rover]

33 is like mac10 BSA

^

[uneven anchor]

i was thinking of my other build without disable

doesnt matter at the ranges you’re using the qq9 in. Marginal difference

[jade rover]

But use fennec then if you’re solely ultra-CQC

[uneven anchor]

fennec sug

I want a consistn 4stk

[jade rover]

BRRT

[uneven anchor]

Qq9 literally deletes wherever you hit

[jade rover]

(Yeah QQ9 is obz better)

[keen gazelle]

do you guys rlly see the difference is using disable? like you guys can tell “yeah that guys slower”

[uneven anchor]

kinda

[keen gazelle]

cause when i use wounding i can only tell when its close calls nd i see that we healed up at the same time

then there i can see wounding working

[rich arch]

With LMG's? Yeah

[jade rover]

Disable is OP, with LMGs it’s obvious but even with SMGs it makes a difference

Or it often does

If you’re hitting legs, they’re moving fast for your aim. So disable helps you hit them

[rich arch]

On smg's its trash imo since most smg's have negative leg multipliers

[uneven anchor]

its so good herbo says if you hit a disable the enemy might as well be dead

[jade rover]

^ high firerate disable can be good

[uneven anchor]

disable mac 10 ong

[rich arch]

On the devil

[jade rover]

Mac10 is too fast tho

Switchblade CBR AGR are a few I can think of

My baby 🥰

I’m actually good at sniping now

Can do the slides and stuff

Chose that over QQ9 mythic no regrets

[rich arch]

Catgang happy

[rich arch]

Whats your take on the chopper?

[cunning rapids]

ew

Hide the suppressor

[rich arch]

Chopper dark matter looks better than original chopper leggy

[jade rover]

Ik it’s better to but I feel inaccurate

[cunning rapids]

the Halloween leggy?

Or am I thinking of a epic blueprint

[jade rover]

Chopper dark matter was a good reward for once

[rich arch]

Original S7 one with price

[jade rover]

And chopper is fun because it’s easy I guess

[rich arch]

You forgot reaper smh

[jade rover]

?

What’s that

[rich arch]

[jade rover]

I’ve been afk

Did I miss a reward

[rich arch]

Yes. Free reaper skin (and it looks good)

[jade rover]

How do I get it

[cunning rapids]

Ever think about looking at events?

[rich arch]

Events

[warm meteor]

How obtain it?

[rich arch]

Got to events page

[jade rover]

I can’t see it 😦

[warm meteor]

Hmm

[rich arch]

Stupid codm glitch

Close and restart the game ara

[jade rover]

I’ll log back in

Kk

[vernal willow]

How much does disable slow people down by?

I’ve never used it on a weapon

[warm meteor]

Just unplug your router and electricity box for a minute

[rich arch]

A decent amount. Enough to increase your chances of killing your target by a lot

[jade rover]

Didn’t work 💀

[rich arch]

Can someone tell me how to get the trail lockout

[vernal willow]

imma use it on my dingo