codm-gunsmith-help

[spare igloo]

pls

[uneven anchor]

Well they do have that

[lean frost]

Scroll up

[keen gazelle]

use the

[spare igloo]

im blind 💀

[uneven anchor]

very epic cat moment

[rich arch]

i heard its coming next season

[keen gazelle]

no its here we have it

[uneven anchor]

No its like, rn

[lean frost]

unless u haven't updated
U do have it

[keen gazelle]

the update allows you to change the rds distance

[rich arch]

damn im getting rusty lol

[keen gazelle]

guys whats another word for closeness

[lean frost]

distance?

[keen gazelle]

changes the closimity

[keen gazelle]

nerd

[rich arch]

you mean distance?

[uneven anchor]

closeimity

[rich arch]

proximity

[keen gazelle]

closeness proximity

[lean frost]

Cooseness

[rich arch]

double

[keen gazelle]

you guys are bullies

[whole moss]

Ay catgang

[uneven anchor]

engles

Wa

[whole moss]

I've done what you couldn't, M4 irons on krig.

[uneven anchor]

how

[lean frost]

Now do Krig irons on M4

[whole moss]

idk

[lean frost]

😎

[whole moss]

you bully

[lean frost]

[whole moss]

[lean frost]

Krig iron M4 meta soon

[uneven anchor]

If i could m4 krig id go into rank and aim in the whole time so spectators cant see anything 👍

[whole moss]

tfbbro

[lean frost]

Just stare into a wall nerd

[uneven anchor]

[keen gazelle]

i had a glitch with my irons yesterday and ended up aiming better

[uneven anchor]

Sks kilo bolt model

[lean frost]

[keen gazelle]

bro got the shot

[whole moss]

literally insane tf

M4 irons on krig

[keen gazelle]

holy shit thats what the mw19 m4 was supposed to be 😭

[whole moss]

mw19 m4

[lean frost]

So good even kize can get kills with it

[whole moss]

kreuger

[lean frost]

That's how u know
It's bussin

[whole moss]

I've improved

WIAT

i also have sks with kilo bolt model

[rotund aurora]

Whats the best one shot shotgun - build also please

[wraith dew]

Mp or br?

[rotund aurora]

Mp

[wraith dew]

Krm imo

Here’s the build. I don’t use 5mw laser cause I tend to center my crosshair alot exposing my laser so I go for rtc

[rich arch]

Can somebody list me the top 3 of every gun type except sniper? I’d Appreciate it

[uneven anchor]

[rotund aurora]

Good hso build?

[whole moss]

choke, owc laser/mip laser/rtc laser, rtc extended light barrel, no stock and granulated

[gentle pagoda]

I need a good ak117 build for rank with range and good mobility

[whole moss]

mono, owc laser/granulated, extended light barrel, no stock and highest mag

[narrow glen]

AneL#1624 has been warned

Reason: Posted a link

[dapper laurel]

QQ9 with 10 mm rounds is like the MW 2019 MP5.

[ocean vine]

They forgor to buff by15 and hs0 reload

[dapper laurel]

In MP?

[ocean vine]

Yeas

[gentle pagoda]

Its slow

[dapper laurel]

HS4005 needs a reload buff since it takes forever to reload.

[whole moss]

but it isn't?

[dapper laurel]

You’re supposed to preaim a lot.

[uneven anchor]

Just use sleight of hand

[dapper laurel]

Need max accuracy. No other shotguns need sleight of hand.

[uneven anchor]

Even if you build for BSA you can fit soh in there

[whole moss]

hso buff

[dapper laurel]

Not really with choke, extended barrel, no stock, granulated, and 5mw.

[uneven anchor]

me with leggy

[whole moss]

leggy abuser

[uneven anchor]

just remove no stock for soh idk

[dapper laurel]

HS4005 is terrible in MP.

[whole moss]

It's fun.

[ocean vine]

Hs0 terrible in br now

By15 krm hs0

All sucks now

Already tested the nerf

[dapper laurel]

Not really since HS4005 has a choke that kills mobility.

[uneven anchor]

[ocean vine]

Can no longer chip midrange 30 dmg

Must be super close

Or ads shot 8 dmg

[ocean vine]

[visual tartan]

Noobs jus quickscope with hdr

Shitguns can fuck off

[ocean vine]

For example if u miss with hs0 and they run away with melee

Can np longer chip with sg

[visual tartan]

Then dont miss

[ocean vine]

Its hard not to miss against pro sliders

High mmr lobby

[whole moss]

@uneven anchor opinion on HDR

[visual tartan]

Its hard to miss when you have skills

[ocean vine]

Anyway if u miss u die

[visual tartan]

Then dont miss

[ocean vine]

Just stick with smg after recent nerf

[whole moss]

bob

L

[dapper laurel]

QQ9 is very powerful after buff in MP.

[visual tartan]

Kize gae

[ocean vine]

Oden + orange longrange is best gun in br

[visual tartan]

💀

[ocean vine]

1v4 ez

[dapper laurel]

LK24 says hi.

[uneven anchor]

Fastest BV in the game

[dapper laurel]

Thoughts on the Wheelson?

[visual tartan]

Ok but when flashbang mag

[visual tartan]

L

[whole moss]

It's funny

[uneven anchor]

no bullet will travel fast than the HDR in BR, it is an extremely consistent rifle

where you shoot is where it will land

[whole moss]

you sound like a bot catgang

[uneven anchor]

fuck you

[uneven anchor]

low bv tho

[ocean vine]

Hdr is needed

[visual tartan]

Bro explained physics

Fucking einstein over here

[ocean vine]

Ever use m21, arctic, xpr spam button yet never hits in br

[whole moss]

No thanks, I'm married.

[visual tartan]

No

[ocean vine]

[visual tartan]

I always hit

[wraith dew]

It hits

[visual tartan]

Cat getting bullied

[uneven anchor]

I missed this marriage

[ocean vine]

If they sprint u cant hit

Or slide jump

[whole moss]

what marriage

[ocean vine]

Thanks to low BV

[visual tartan]

Dont let them sprint then

[uneven anchor]

your marriage, when it happen

[whole moss]

I'll show wait

[wraith dew]

Disable

[visual tartan]

Yes

[uneven anchor]

what about disable

[real crescent]

Wrong channel kindly go to #619960843878268950

[visual tartan]

Disable on rytec is cancer lmfao 💀

[dapper laurel]

How fast is HDR BV?

[visual tartan]

Smithin

[wraith dew]

W or without attach?

[ocean vine]

Hitscan

[uneven anchor]

2380 if built for BV

[dapper laurel]

Max stack.

[wraith dew]

2380 so idk how many meters can it be hitscan

[uneven anchor]

base hdr is 1400, lower than ZRG

[visual tartan]

The fuck

[dapper laurel]

Wished they removed BSA in BR.

[whole moss]

i told you

[visual tartan]

I already love the hdr

[uneven anchor]

Oh i was there

[dapper laurel]

Aww, so cute!

[uneven anchor]

epic

[whole moss]

Gunsmithing

[uneven anchor]

HUH

[whole moss]

yeet shut

[visual tartan]

It is tho

[uneven anchor]

💀

[whole moss]

How though

[visual tartan]

Also cat is still a kid in cat years

[uneven anchor]

[visual tartan]

Make of that what you will

[uneven anchor]

cat slander

[whole moss]

i didn't marry cat?

[dapper laurel]

Maybe cat can become a cool uncle.

[uneven anchor]

HUH?

[whole moss]

what i literally married tomoko

[uneven anchor]

💀

[visual tartan]

Ye ik thats why i’m telling you

[dapper laurel]

Are we invited to the wedding?

[visual tartan]

So you never think about it

[uneven anchor]

WHAT

[whole moss]

catgang

do you want
to
play br?

[visual tartan]

Gae 👆

[whole moss]

catgang

[uneven anchor]

HUH

[visual tartan]

Wut

[whole moss]

want to play br with me?

[uneven anchor]

sure

im hunger tho

[dusty heart]

I agree

[whole moss]

go eat first

[visual tartan]

Gae 👆

[whole moss]

WHAT??????

[uneven anchor]

?

[whole moss]

Gunsmithing..

[visual tartan]

Kize gon crazy

[uneven anchor]

Skitzo Lize

[visual tartan]

Smungithing

[uneven anchor]

also im not eating

later

Lets go br kize

[dusty heart]

Gunsmithing

[uneven anchor]

[whole moss]

O

[dapper laurel]

Have a good honeymoon!

[whole moss]

that was

actually kinda fun

[uneven anchor]

kize alive challenge

[whole moss]

nah but

M4 AA is rigged

this mf targeted me so hard tf

[uneven anchor]

Use hs0 👍

want me to drop you leggy hs0 or leggy dlq

[whole moss]

but

i suck with shotgun

nah dlq suc

actually i suc

[uneven anchor]

hmm, very bad case of skill issue

[whole moss]

hold on let me drink my milk

DONT MAKE IT WERID PLS

[whole moss]

🗿

i don't need it

[uneven anchor]

i forgor to change muzzle

[whole moss]

i suck with snipers

besides xpr but yes

[uneven anchor]

use hs0 rn

[whole moss]

Fine hso nerd 🤓

[uneven anchor]

Epic

[whole moss]

start when

mf what even is in your mail 😭

[uneven anchor]

I QUICK SCOPED HIM

[whole moss]

ok nah that was just funny

[uneven anchor]

LOL

[whole moss]

🗿

[uneven anchor]

he sniper from other build bre

enemies harder??

epic

[whole moss]

AYO?

oh you meant it like that

[uneven anchor]

kind words from thy mother

[whole moss]

also this was such a common black market moment

[uneven anchor]

nah i coulda killed him if kize landed like 50 damage

[whole moss]

NAH I LITERALLY TRIED TO BOX HIM

[uneven anchor]

that quickscope

[whole moss]

i had no gun 😭

[uneven anchor]

150 dmg + like 30 from qq9

[whole moss]

[uneven anchor]

nah mans was lit asf

20 hp im telling ypu

[whole moss]

fr

they should add a in game recorder

like it could record your games

holy shit I'm becoming moonco

[uneven anchor]

NOOO MOONCO

[whole moss]

ok start lol

wait

@uneven anchor i run drsparodo

honestly we could've won that fight if I had despardo

[uneven anchor]

Desperado skill is actually op

you cant take damage from the front on turret

[whole moss]

hopefully we win this game

[uneven anchor]

downside is that, u need flat terrain 💀

[whole moss]

🗿

[whole moss]

the fuck

you literally got demolished

[uneven anchor]

I GOT DOUBLE TEAMWD

why couldnt they fight

[whole moss]

bro

[uneven anchor]

KIZE PLEASE ALIVE

[whole moss]

this game was so wild 😭

[whole moss]

NAH BUT I LITERALLY GOT AMBUSHED

these mfs came outta nowhere

[uneven anchor]

they fucking camped your body i cant

HUH

[whole moss]

smh campersb

[uneven anchor]

kize gae arc

[whole moss]

Not true

asexual forever and forever

[uneven anchor]

acap more like

[uneven anchor]

lize ready challenge

[whole moss]

hold on

me gonna play with no audio

L

@uneven anchor start when challenge

[uneven anchor]

[whole moss]

?

Gunsmithing

[dusty heart]

Kize is too shy

[alpine prairie]

pls give me a good build for OUTLAW for ranked

[alpine prairie]

thx

[keen gazelle]

your welcome

[whole moss]

fuck br

i just can't anymore

i hit a guy 3 times with hso and he didn't die

tf is this game bro 😭

[uneven anchor]

[whole moss]

not true

[uneven anchor]

Its true you keep denying

im ace this im ace that

straight cappin

[whole moss]

ay catgang

you dropped this king 👑

[uneven anchor]

edits to cap

i already know nerd

[whole moss]

nah but fr

you dropped these nuts

I'm literally so funny wth

[uneven anchor]

Im telling tomoko

[whole moss]

what will he do?

[uneven anchor]

Bilk you

[whole moss]

what

[uneven anchor]

[uneven anchor]

you heard me

[rich arch]

[whole moss]

say It again

just start the match

[uneven anchor]

.

[whole moss]

i can't make any moves with tomoko

Gunsmithing, now

[paper spade]

OMG GUYS

They fixED it

i got trial loadout from the update today !!!

it was glitched for like 10% of players, they had no access to it

:)

i guess codm support has been paying more attention after the update

[jolly pollen]

any reason why people are saying disable isnt worth it anymore?

[whole moss]

WHAT EVBE HAPPENED

nah fuck this i can't play br anymore

[paper spade]

what changed?

[whole moss]

mfer sgs headshotting me 😔

[paper spade]

ha

[whole moss]

[uneven anchor]

kize learn shotguns challenge

[whole moss]

train me master

also me log off my hands are dead

[uneven anchor]

fine just use fennec

[whole moss]

fennec

[uneven anchor]

skill issue

[whole moss]

go sleep nerd

[uneven anchor]

what y its morning for me

[whole moss]

oh timezones exist

[uneven anchor]

[whole moss]

also catgang

you jump out of the plane way to late

[uneven anchor]

Ik

[whole moss]

Be better

[uneven anchor]

jump at 1400 but idc

[whole moss]

i remember when i was the jump leader

[uneven anchor]

unless you land somewhere with high altitude

[whole moss]

which was never 😔

[uneven anchor]

yeah, which is the timeline where you land at shid ass places with no people

[paper spade]

@uneven anchor wanna grind mp rn i need to rank up a bit

[whole moss]

BUT CIRCUS AND BUS STATION ARE THE NEST SPOTS

[uneven anchor]

sure

[whole moss]

mfer catgang plays to much

[uneven anchor]

but im high leggy

so tough opponents

whats ur ign apollo 👉👈

[uneven anchor]

Dogshid places

[whole moss]

his ign is Apollo141

[paper spade]

one sec

its not that lol

[whole moss]

[whole moss]

man, it's a good name though.

[paper spade]

kilo bad tbh

its like the only gun i use tho bc demonsong

[whole moss]

It's meh

[paper spade]

and hvk

[uneven anchor]

Kilo maybe fell off

[whole moss]

hvk

[paper spade]

kilo fell off bc krig is just better

but its mythic is op looking

m16 and lk are comparable too

to kilo but dont have mythic opness

[uneven anchor]

kilo fell off bc agr

[paper spade]

😵

ew

[whole moss]

oh apollo

[paper spade]

it doesnt let me custom emojio

[uneven anchor]

my hottest take

[whole moss]

the season is gonna end very soon

[uneven anchor]

yeah discord weirdge

[paper spade]

im gm 1

[whole moss]

go grind fast dude

[paper spade]

lets get to lergenary rn @uneven anchor

[whole moss]

L 😔

[paper spade]

im downliadng some resources

[whole moss]

Lergenary

[uneven anchor]

me and apollo got it surely

[whole moss]

surely you 2 need me

[uneven anchor]

no

[whole moss]

later nerds

[uneven anchor]

TMI bruh

[whole moss]

Right.

[paper spade]

lol

ill invite u if u want

whats ur ign catgang

im missing llike half my game files bu t i think i can still play rn

[uneven anchor]

¤catgang

My ign

[paper spade]

yeah let me just get my nordic keyboard out

[uneven anchor]

ur what now

[paper spade]

lol i cant type that character

i only see the rank 85 catgang

[uneven anchor]

just copy and paste

[paper spade]

seny

[uneven anchor]

My ranks too high

nah bruh fuck these brackets

used to be gm-leggy

[paper spade]

whaaat

nooooooooo

[uneven anchor]

try inv me maybe

[paper spade]

:(

literally has 100000 rank

[uneven anchor]

yeah uh. I too many points

well next season we play 👉👈

[paper spade]

tru

finally omg

i am able to use munitions box

trial loadodut so op

[uneven anchor]

good luck grinding on ur own

Spend trial points wisely

only 5 per rank match

[paper spade]

thats so fricking many

why would i have to be wise about it

ill make one loadout and never change it

[uneven anchor]

i have none on my garena account

[paper spade]

what do u swap back and forth constantly ?

between stuff?

[uneven anchor]

Uh, yeah

[paper spade]

i can only activate like one in each category at a time right?

i have to reactivate if i activate another?

[uneven anchor]

yeah

[paper spade]

if i unequip it , is it still activated ?

[uneven anchor]

No

Unless you permanently buy something

Which usually costs 100

[cunning rapids]

This reliable for br

[uneven anchor]

If you perma buy something you can use it across all loadouts

see that nice pumped class that you probably dont have because you literally cant buy it with credits? Yeah you can get it through trial loadout

[uneven anchor]

how ab 10mm in BR

[peak ledge]

Any suggestions for a good gks attachments?

[cunning rapids]

45 bigger number

[uneven anchor]

Just use extended mag mod 👍

[uneven anchor]

Integ
Mag
laser
gran
light stock

[peak ledge]

thanjs

i can't write today -_-

[uneven anchor]

npj

[paper spade]

You can Parma activate in trial loadout???

How

[uneven anchor]

Yeah

hold on i forgor how

[paper spade]

I need to perma activate decoy nade

So it’s unlocked when I unequip it

Op for xp in hp

[swift scroll]

Where is give away please

[paper spade]

#giveaway-🎉

[uneven anchor]

Top right button

[paper spade]

Huhh

[uneven anchor]

weird square arrow button

there buying is permanent

[uneven anchor]

yeah but like decoy nade sug

[paper spade]

bro wtf

it perma unlocks for all loadouts

thats so good

they also changeed the important resources for maps

i think they revamped them so they could easily edit the spectator mode stuff

seems like dev team is working properly

good

[uneven anchor]

M4 krig 🤨

[paper spade]

lol

nice agr

[uneven anchor]

agr better than krig easily

[paper spade]

what gunsmith should i use for agr?

[uneven anchor]

(It is not better)

[paper spade]

i remade all my ttk charts data

[uneven anchor]

base mag agr for its smg role

or 5.56 for the better mobility kilo no headshot role

[paper spade]

cyg discord says not to do 556

for the ttk charts

[uneven anchor]

sure base is arguably better

5,56 is still good tho

[paper spade]

should i use tac or mono ext

cyg said to use tac

[paper spade]

the rest said to use mono ext

[uneven anchor]

range boost, like no down sides

[paper spade]

alr mono ext it is

[uneven anchor]

you could perk to laser but like, reload time holds agr back and it has like massive bsa so you would only benefit ads time

[paper spade]

doesnt matter

im just recording its ttk stats for the chart

[uneven anchor]

ic ic

[paper spade]

the new weapon comparison screen has me dying

[uneven anchor]

do 5.56 comparison just for me tho? 👉👈

[paper spade]

4, 5, 6, i already have it saved

[uneven anchor]

why whats wrong lol

[paper spade]

AGR mono ext 80ms fire interval
4 to 20.3m, 5 to 29m, 6 to 43m, 7 after. (in stk)
240 to 20.3, 320 to 29m, 400 to 43m, 480 after (ms)
15f to 20.3, 20f to 29m, 24f to 43m, 29f after

AGR Mono ext 556
16 to 23.8m, 16-22 to 34m. 22 to 51m, 27 to 60. (in frames)

there u go

oh

i forgot to do the pistols in my charts

[short geode]

Yo any1 know any fairly decent CBR4 builds?

[paper spade]

mono, ext, tac laser, gran, stock

[keen gazelle]

range boost

[short geode]

Ight

[paper spade]

@uneven anchor

no 556 is better up to 35m

[uneven anchor]

5.56 W

[paper spade]

no

look at the error bar that starts at 25m

its ttk is insiede that range

[cunning rapids]

I like suppressor thing

[uneven anchor]

O right the error bar is just chest shots

[short geode]

My mind is blown idk what a single word you just said means.

[paper spade]

yea

[uneven anchor]

The not error bar i mean

[paper spade]

anyway

now i need to

[uneven anchor]

ITS STILL GOOD

[paper spade]

catgang wanna

[uneven anchor]

[paper spade]

group every single gunsmith for mp into groups of 4 with me

[uneven anchor]

sure

[paper spade]

yay

the pistols and lmgs go together

i ignored snipers lol

lets see

ima post a big list now we will sort it

[uneven anchor]

Didnt you already sort some of these tho

[cunning rapids]

I can actually use base thing for supp with new supp thing

[paper spade]

yes ill post the old groupings too

gimme a sec

[uneven anchor]

Cant wait to sort the entire armory

[paper spade]

[uneven anchor]

Sick feature

[paper spade]

CBR Tac Marksman
Fennec Mono Ext
Kilo Mono Ext
Krig TaskForce
Maddox Echo
Maddox Mono
Chopper Tac Inf
Oden Duplex Colo
AK117 Mono Ext
SKS
RPD CC Tac
Holger Tac
GKS Built In
Hades Agency RF CB
UL Tac Short
AK47 Mono Ranger
KN Mono Ranger
PK TF Agency
M13 40r Mono
LK Mono
Pharo Mono
Bizon Mono Ext
M16 WF Integ
EM2 TaskForce
Rus Mono Light
QXR Mono
AGR Mono Light Ext 5.56
ICR
QQ9 10mm Mono Recon 
AGR Mono Ext```

finally

[uneven anchor]

oh my fucking

aight lets get to work

[paper spade]

the old groupings are:

[unreal gale]

Yeah

[uneven anchor]

Feel bad for the nerds that upgraded their mythixs

[unreal gale]

got a skin for the mono suppressor even though it's meant to be at level 8 :D

[uneven anchor]

287 second wait 💀

[unreal gale]

I feel like the qq9 is really good this season

[uneven anchor]

Qq9 is busted

[unreal gale]

it's at 360 now xD

[uneven anchor]

💀

[unreal gale]

I found a match at 359 :D

[uneven anchor]

i have mixed feelings about 10mm

[unreal gale]

even the regular mag is really op now

[paper spade]

Cbr, fennec, hvk, krig.
bizon, em2 tf, kilo, m16
lk, m13, maddox, maddox echo
chopper, hades, holger, rpd
agr, gks, pharo
qxr, rus
ak47, icr, kn, pk
ak117, oden, sks, ul

[unreal gale]

consistent 4 shot to anywhere

[paper spade]

@uneven anchor those are the current groupings

[uneven anchor]

CBR 🚮

[paper spade]

theyre missing some guns from this list

[unreal gale]

that was literally qq9's only downside before, that it was hard to get that 4 shot

[paper spade]

now help me regroup them

[uneven anchor]

well if we sort by meta

AGR and QQ9 gotta be there

[paper spade]

so where do i add agr and qq9 here?

theyre the only 2 missing / updated guns

and should i change any other groupings

[uneven anchor]

Uhh

Drop fennec and CBR maybe?

[paper spade]

i wont drop them but i can move their spots

[rich arch]

fennec

[paper spade]

are agr and qq9 considered better than cbr now?

[uneven anchor]

yeah?

[rich arch]

neck and neck and better in certain situations

[uneven anchor]

idk its a hot take but i think CBR fell off

[rich arch]

it still has its uses

notably range

[uneven anchor]

base mag qq9 with the 71 firerate 4 shot and agr with the range and pog strafe

[rich arch]

AGR does have a slower RPM

[uneven anchor]

what do you think pain, whys CBR good

i mean yeah

[rich arch]

range and ease of use is why its good plus the big mag size

[uneven anchor]

but the CBR cannot strafe or range boost like agr can, or can it

It does have a mag size

fine maybe we’ll keep CBR but what about switch

it got some nice buffs

[rich arch]

its much more consistent now and offers some more competition to the P90

[uneven anchor]

fuck this is hard apollo

[paper spade]

bizon, em2 tf, kilo, m16
 Cbr, pk, maddox, maddox echo
chopper, hades, holger, rpd
gks, pharo, agr, qq9
qxr, rus, 
ak47, icr, kn, lk, m13,
ak117, oden, sks, ul```

[uneven anchor]

doesnt switch have close to 70 firerate too

[paper spade]

these are the new groupings, what should change

i need to add one to the first slot

[rich arch]

this season, the P90 probably wont be considered the best SMG anymore. Rather, it'll share that spot now with other SMG's

[paper spade]

and redo the second to last to be 4 instead of 5 i just didnt know how to split that group

also should agr and qq9 stick down with the other smg's

[uneven anchor]

i think qq9 should be at the very top

[paper spade]

why

[narrow glen]

@paper spade, 22

[uneven anchor]

Its reaaally good

It just melts too fast

[paper spade]

better than cbr?

[uneven anchor]

I want to say yes at closer ranges

[rich arch]

BSA does make ranged gunfights a pain (pun inteded)

[uneven anchor]

This mf

Porky said competitive coaches are tying to get their team to use QQ9 now

[rich arch]

to be at the top, you have to be versatile (like the cbr)

the MP5's BSA at range holds it back in that regard

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 3

[uneven anchor]

[rich arch]

but where it is intended to be used, the MP5 is amazing now

[uneven anchor]

Qq9 a better fennec you think?

probably a better comparison

[paper spade]

qq9 is better

ill comapre it to fennic now

[uneven anchor]

10mm? Idk man

[rich arch]

fennec is still better imo for ultra aggressiveness due to the higher RPM but the MP5 can stretch the ranges a bit more now

[paper spade]

is 10mm bad?

[unreal gale]

just played with someone who had like 10 maxed mythics

[paper spade]

i was told its the play

[unreal gale]

but man his builds were average

[uneven anchor]

Thats it, idk

i literally dont know where 10mm falls in the meta 😭

[rich arch]

not really, i would say its an alternative method of using the MP5.

[uneven anchor]

it can 4stk pretty damn far i guess

For 79 rpm and 30 mag, sure its a heavy hit to performance but look at that 4stk range

[rich arch]

not better, not worse

[uneven anchor]

its consistent i think, and juicy

[paper spade]

here is one with the fennec

fennec has a much larger punishment

as u can see by the error bars

[uneven anchor]

add qq9 but 9mm

[paper spade]

what gunsmithj

[uneven anchor]

2 qq9s

rtc long mono

45 mag no stock and laser

[paper spade]

why rtc long

not recon?

[uneven anchor]

thats whats it called no?

[rich arch]

i think he is referring to that

[paper spade]

o

[uneven anchor]

rtc recon long

[paper spade]

alright one second

[rich arch]

recon tactical long

[uneven anchor]

it has a weirdge name lol

[paper spade]

i need to calculate its data for the chart

YES

they fixed the arrow buttons in weapon comparison screen

[uneven anchor]

lol they just changed the icon

[unreal gale]

oh you can just have no suppressor as a look? I didn't know that

[rich arch]

are you jewish by any chance?

[uneven anchor]

yeah, thats how my holidays gets its sup now

i wanna buy a Lenin cap, sht looks cool 👉👈

[paper spade]

qq9 mono recon 9mm, 72ms interval
3-4 shots to 14.9m, 4-5 to 21.6m, 5-7 to 27m, 6-8 after (stk)
144-216ms to 14.9m, 216-288ms to 21.6m, 288-432ms to 27m, 360-504 after. (not rounded)
9-13 to 14.9m, 13-18 to 21.6m, 18-26 to 27m, 22-31 after (frames)

[rich arch]

stalin is cooler

[uneven anchor]

thats a hard comparison ngl

[paper spade]

cyg discord is saying agr is better than cbr and qq9 options

[uneven anchor]

I trust them on the better than CBR part for sure

But qq9? Idk man

[uneven anchor]

?

[rich arch]

mustache wins it for me

[uneven anchor]

I mean lenins so cute in his cap tho

[rich arch]

stalin looks better in his white uniform

[uneven anchor]

OMG THATS CHEATING

[rich arch]

why

[uneven anchor]

Too much drip

[rich arch]

[uneven anchor]

holy moly mans rocked that suit

[paper spade]

@uneven anchor

its actually a hard choice between qq9 anf fennec

qq9 > agr

[uneven anchor]

This is tough

you cannot toss agr so casually, look at its mobility

its also consistent, and has FAT bsa

Yes its lacking ttk

but agrs other stats MORE than make up for it i believe

fuck idk man

im too stupid for this

[undone sandal]

reload time

[uneven anchor]

Sleight of hand

[rich arch]

you could just time your reloads you know

[dusty heart]

Agr is Maddox in smg form

They got same 4 tap range

[uneven anchor]

tych pls help apollo

[dusty heart]

Almost same mobility

[undone sandal]

not every time
agr just has slower reload time compared to other smgs

[uneven anchor]

We’re organizing the fk guns again

[rich arch]

it does but you can negate it if youre smart with your reloads

[dusty heart]

Tychy my fav nerd mod

[paper spade]

bizon, em2 tf, kilo, m16
Cbr, pk, maddox, maddox echo
chopper, hades, holger, rpd
gks, pharo, agr, qq9 9mm
qxr, rus, ak47
icr, kn, lk, m13,
ak117, oden, sks, ul``` @uneven anchor

how is this

[undone sandal]

gonna sacrifice laser for soh? ok cool

[uneven anchor]

based

[paper spade]

hi tomoko

new season, new charts

[uneven anchor]

i mean yeah why not

[dusty heart]

Agr doesn’t need laser

[uneven anchor]

Thats a plus even, fk laser

[dusty heart]

I legit run 5mw lol

[uneven anchor]

agr doesnt need BSA either

[undone sandal]

forced to use soh instead of disable

[uneven anchor]

ahh ok

[paper spade]

@uneven anchor how does this look?

[dusty heart]

Disable on an smg

[uneven anchor]

Yeah thats fair

[paper spade]

i added qq9 twice

[undone sandal]

thats a laser tho

[paper spade]

is ak47 okay with the qxr and rus in the extra category

[undone sandal]

seeing how catgang builds his smgs
disable is usually on there

[paper spade]

or should i switch something else in there like the kn or icr

[uneven anchor]

agr and qq9 need top spots i think

not 10mm

[dusty heart]

Fair enough,i didn’t know what to put

[uneven anchor]

idk about 10mm

[rich arch]

[uneven anchor]

Tych pls tell abt 10mm

[dusty heart]

Qq9 10mm ain’t worth

That rpm with 30 round mag?

[undone sandal]

yea no

[dusty heart]

Long ass reload too

[vernal nimbus]

Lmfao codm knew not to give the holger wounding perk

[uneven anchor]

10mm has a divine 4stk range

[rich arch]

that 3 stk looks very tasty though

[rich arch]

[paper spade]

hey @undone sandal , im posting new charts this season for both br and mp for every gun again, we are just sorting the guns. between the agr and qq9 with the larger mag options which should i add to the top spot with the hvk fennec and krig? i dropped cbr for it

[dusty heart]

I think all lmgs don’t have wounding

[vernal nimbus]

Rpd:

[uneven anchor]

chad pd

[paper spade]

or is it best just to put both the smaller and larger mag options through the charts and keep cbr in the top spot

[dusty heart]

Oh,just rpd?

[uneven anchor]

10mm 🚮?

[vernal nimbus]

Every lmg has wounding

Except for the holger

[dusty heart]

Indirect nerf to holger

[rich arch]

are you bryan in disguise?

[vernal nimbus]

Nah wdym

[rich arch]

ok

[viscid belfry]

y everyone is using wounding

[rich arch]

its just a fad

[dusty heart]

Wounding gonna become meta in this server ong

[uneven anchor]

no thats a certain individual that fought alongside me in the tournament

[dusty heart]

Why u refer to him like that

[rich arch]

herbo?

[uneven anchor]

yeah lol

[rich arch]

oh damn

lol

[uneven anchor]

i wanted him to guess

[unreal gale]

? no

[undone sandal]

probably agr, its been heavily popularized as the new cbr now

[rich arch]

ok thought you were jewish because of the inclusion of yahweh

[unreal gale]

idk, I just tried agr with the ext mag and uhh

it doesn't feel great

[paper spade]

but the qq9 is strictly better in terms of ttk

[dusty heart]

Use a blueprint wirh less aimshake

[unreal gale]

the mag is also very small for the fire rate

[paper spade]

even without 10mm

[dusty heart]

Wth

[vernal nimbus]

Takes 8s to heal after being hit by it

[rich arch]

probably because 0f the aimshake

[dusty heart]

Wthi

[unreal gale]

I don't think I have one

[dusty heart]

With

[paper spade]

i guess agr has alot more mobility and other stats besides ttk

[uneven anchor]

5.56 enjoyer?

[vernal nimbus]

Not to heal but to regen

[unreal gale]

no, just the regular mag.

[uneven anchor]

Yes thats y its top teir

[unreal gale]

Cyg said it's better

[paper spade]

would i put the agr 556 or 9mm?

[dusty heart]

Western crown or holidays one

[rich arch]

AGR is top tier now

[unreal gale]

I have the holidays one

[dusty heart]

Western crown available rn

[dusty heart]

Use that one

[unreal gale]

I am

still doesn't feel great

[dusty heart]

How does it not feel great

[unreal gale]

feels too blunt in a light way... kinda hard to explain

[uneven anchor]

Explain

[unreal gale]

feels like you're shooting nerf gun darts

[dusty heart]

I dropped a 3x in snd without reloading whilst using it

[uneven anchor]

lmfao

[rich arch]

i guess its just a mental thing not the gun it self

[uneven anchor]

they did alter agr sounds

sad

[unreal gale]

I personally think that how good a gun feels really impacts the performance

[narrow glen]

@sullen zealot, 10

[undone sandal]

9mm probably

[rich arch]

sounds better now wdym

[sullen zealot]

I opened codm and all my gun builds are gone ....
Whats going on guys?
My guns names look like this now...
And i never named them...
Dlq33 2u2ui2j2hh2hr8 ... bruh

[paper spade]

alright

[uneven anchor]

Meh

[paper spade]

ill compile the charts now

[unreal gale]

AK117 for example was pretty bad before, but because it felt great I did great with it

[uneven anchor]

Is ak117 top tier now?

[dusty heart]

9mm

[rich arch]

nah

[uneven anchor]

sed

[dusty heart]

5.56 screws the ttk for 4m of extra 4stk range

[undone sandal]

ak117 should be more consistent now bc reduced recoil

[unreal gale]

it is if you want it to be :D

[sullen zealot]

@uneven anchor help me pls

[paper spade]

using this list now im gonna compile the charts

bizon, em2 tf, kilo, m16
Cbr, pk, maddox, maddox echo
chopper, hades, holger, rpd
gks, pharo, qq9 10mm, qq9 9mm
qxr, rus, ak47
icr, kn, lk, m13,
ak117, oden, sks, ul```

[rich arch]

but atleast you have less horizontal recoil

[narrow glen]

@rich arch, 4

[unreal gale]

I feel like the reload speed buff is a pretty big W

[uneven anchor]

Mine looks like that too

[dusty heart]

Nice for angle holding

[unreal gale]

That was one of the really annoying things about it before

[dusty heart]

If you need mobility tho use smth else

[sullen zealot]

Whats going on?

[undone sandal]

the code is just for easy build sharing

[rich arch]

same for the AK47

[uneven anchor]

Its a build share code i think

ionno

[paper spade]

is gks or pharo better?

[rich arch]

gks

[uneven anchor]

[dusty heart]

Ggs

Gks

[sullen zealot]

Um...ok.. why are all my gun builds gone then?

[uneven anchor]

uh

idk about that, my builds are intact

just ask for a build no problem

[rich arch]

sadge

[sullen zealot]

Yesh my saved builds... just disappeared 🥴... idk why

[uneven anchor]

Sus

[sullen zealot]

Is it part of the update?

[rich arch]

did you update the chart?

[uneven anchor]

Likely

[undone sandal]

what chart

[sullen zealot]

I hope i get them back

[uneven anchor]

TYCH LIVE EDITING

[dusty heart]

The fuck

Where I wanna see tych hands

[uneven anchor]

the spread sheet

[undone sandal]

oh

[uneven anchor]

[uneven anchor]

me watching tych edit spreadsheet

[undone sandal]

already updated with the exception of launchers, op skill, and scorestreak

[uneven anchor]

ah

[undone sandal]

launchers i have to retest

[uneven anchor]

whatd they do to launchers?

like buffs nerfs

[undone sandal]

d13 bv buff

[uneven anchor]

WHAT

still insignificant i bet

D13 needs like 5 discs in one mag

Just pop em in OBJ lol

[undone sandal]

saw it on test server patch notes
and since most of it was implemented into current patch, i don't see why bv buff didn't make the cut

from 35m/s to 50m/s

have to check if its true

[uneven anchor]

smrs has faster BV wtf

[undone sandal]

doesn't really affect me tbh, i haven't used d13 in a long time

[uneven anchor]

diamond d13 mf

[undone sandal]

but i do like the trajectory indicator

[paper spade]

@undone sandal i have compiled ttk stats for every mp and br gunsmith that we use with malph yesterday. idk if it would be useful but maybe if there is a master spreadsheet i can add to we can share some of our data and hopefully further our accumulation of stats

im compiling the charts right now but i was just wondering if u wanted the data

[uneven anchor]

If you need data actually just yoink tychs

[paper spade]

plus i was wondering if the people you know have ever collected average shot data for multipliers because at that point i could draw a binomial distribution showing the exact probability of taking every number of shots on the chart

[uneven anchor]

[undone sandal]

didn't yujji make one

[paper spade]

he made an example showing what the multipliers area is from frontal view

that isnt average shot data

[undone sandal]

i see

[paper spade]

average shot data is required because we dont know the frequency it lands on each multiplier

[uneven anchor]

Arms cover the chest remember kids

[paper spade]

anyway lmk about the chart data id love to help / get more stats data that i can use

[undone sandal]

would use it but the stats i have are for base gun/attachment only

[paper spade]

wdym by /attachment

[undone sandal]

had a hard time compiling lapa ttks lol

[paper spade]

singular attachments?

[undone sandal]

yes

[unreal gale]

wait so 556 for agr?

[uneven anchor]

lapa barrels flashbacks

[uneven anchor]

no

[paper spade]

my data shows the both the fastest and slowest ttk excluding headshot multiplier with the normal gunsmiths we use for the guns

[uneven anchor]

Its not worth apparently

[unreal gale]

ak117 feels pretty good

[paper spade]

im assuming you have a chart for each multiplier instead though

[unreal gale]

but still very clunky

[undone sandal]

you can check tbh

[unreal gale]

I feel like the extra mag might be worth

[uneven anchor]

i agree

[unreal gale]

bigger mag + slower fire rate is a pretty big W

[paper spade]

anyway

[unreal gale]

in terms of ammo at least

[uneven anchor]

In respawns

[unreal gale]

what else got buffed

oh yeah, qq9

[uneven anchor]

Yeah you should really try it

it claps now

[paper spade]

here is my data, the first collumn after names is the distance in meters, the next collumn is the fastest ttk for that distance in frames, the next collumn is the slowest ttk in frames, the next two theyre converted back to milliseconds for both of those. i accounted for bv and frame rounded everything so it is exact to how it occurs via tick updates in the game

@undone sandal

and here is my br data

[uneven anchor]

data mfs

BR data

[paper spade]

oh wait i didnt put together the br stuff completely yet

its here tho

ima watch a movie and cry for a bit might do the br chart stuff after

[vernal nimbus]

@uneven anchor just went against a controller player and they dropped 0 kills in ranked lmfao

[uneven anchor]

average controller player 💀

[paper spade]

i have the data for them but i cant automatically extrapolate the frames it takes to kill because i need to ceiling it so i have to calculate each gun by hand and enter it into the chart

[uneven anchor]

most skilled controller player

[vernal nimbus]

Controller players have it tough in codm

Mfs cant even dropshot

[uneven anchor]

gyro > controller 🥱

[vernal nimbus]

I believe you since you’re the 2v2 champ ngl

[uneven anchor]

thanks, i believe what you said about me since you’re the 2v2 champ ngl

[dusty heart]

Pc players tho

I remember gettin farmed by one,I was ass then tho

Like a year or so ago

[paper spade]

is favella or miami strike the horrible map

with the basketball court in the middle

[uneven anchor]

favela

though miami might as well have a b ball court in the middle too

[dusty heart]

Miami easiest map to drop a nuke

[undone sandal]

similar data

i just use a calculator for ttks

[unreal gale]

okay qq9 30mm feels great

feels like a hvk of smgs

only problem is that it kinda sucks long range

[dusty heart]

30mm

[dusty heart]

Yeah 9mm faster ttk at range

[unreal gale]

10 mm 30 rounds yk what I'm saying

[unreal gale]

yeah, but you should try the 10mm

if you haven't already

[dusty heart]

Nah

I can hit my upper body shots

[unreal gale]

nah just give it a shot

you'll like it

[dusty heart]

I like bigger mags on shit that fires fast

[unreal gale]

sure I guess

oh also the 10mm gives 15% range

so I might be able to drop either the barrel or the suppressor

[uneven anchor]

10mm idk

[unreal gale]

have you tried it?

[uneven anchor]

yeah

[unreal gale]

I personally think it feels amazing

[uneven anchor]

I prefer base but i can see its strengths

The thing can 4stk pretty far

[dusty heart]

Sunny liking shit builds again

[unreal gale]

I probably shouldn't be using disable on it lol

[dusty heart]

Not surprised

[uneven anchor]

sunny moment

[unreal gale]

full ammo or soh

[dusty heart]

The fuck

[uneven anchor]

LOL

I mean if you’re gonna live pretty long full ammo i guess..

[unreal gale]

I could use vulture I guess

I want to take it for a ranked game

[paper spade]

Your data is wrong I believe

[unreal gale]

can't find one though

[uneven anchor]

vulture soh 👍

[paper spade]

Do you round the first bullet velocity range to 0 frames and the second to 2 adding one each distance interval?

[unreal gale]

hmm that does actually sounds pretty good

[paper spade]

Tyche?

[uneven anchor]

wtf sunny, i mean if it works

builds are catered to the individual i suppose.

[paper spade]

If you don’t do that it’s wrong, I’m giving u the benefit of the doubt though and assuming you only forgot to round the ttk portion to frames though because that’s the error malph made before when we spoke

[uneven anchor]

Tych? Wrong?

impossible

[paper spade]

I mean everything on the stats on duty website is wrong

They don’t account for frames

[uneven anchor]

Holy shit

apollo rip into all of SOD

[paper spade]

Tyche has been posting stuff for cyg half updated with frames

But I’m just making sure

[dusty heart]

What apollo is trying to say is sod lazy asf

[uneven anchor]

Chad

[undone sandal]

i know that
but in the table i just put the bounds

[paper spade]

Wdym bounds?