codm-gunsmith-help

[lean frost]

So it stacks with each tick..?

[ruby iris]

Tell me 1 good thing about famas

[whole moss]

it's shit

thank me later fr

[lean frost]

It's a bullpup

[austere igloo]

Controllable recoil

[uneven anchor]

no, Disable procs probably just refresh the duration no?

[nimble spear]

Isn't the damage at farthest range solid?

[undone sandal]

disable isn't really dependent on thermite tick damage though

[ruby iris]

Lk does that, but better

Also m16

[austere igloo]

Dont mind the stk on famas if I can land my shots

[lean frost]

tru but
Does it stack with the ticks

[undone sandal]

it would probably only apply on the initial dmg

[lean frost]

sadge

[austere igloo]

I hv that on too

[undone sandal]

bc the rest is gonna be from thermite damage

not from rytec

or kilo

[runic marsh]

This one has no stock but a grip tape going to try the other builds tho

[ruby iris]

@undone sandal gib reason to use famas over lk/m16

[uneven anchor]

thermite damage does not proc disable, worst day of my life

[undone sandal]

high bsa

[ruby iris]

Lk with 7.8:

[undone sandal]

true

[uneven anchor]

its fine tho its takes like as long disable lasts for someone to die to thermite kilo B so perhaps good actually

[austere igloo]

I need an endorsement for using famas it seems

Like…what?

Besides I hv m16 on another loadout too

[ruby iris]

Famas has plenty of skin to choose from

[runic hornet]

thanks i'll try that out too

[austere igloo]

Esp smart rifle

[ruby iris]

And fast reload

[austere igloo]

[lean frost]

But that isn't as fun as knowing they're getting disabled with each tick

[austere igloo]

& smart rifle famas has no aimshake

[ruby iris]

[lean frost]

Famas is bullpup
LK/M16 aren't

👍

[austere igloo]

Ya dont say

[lean frost]

Bullpup better👍

[austere igloo]

Even swordfish?

[lean frost]

Swordfish is actually pretty solid
Famas is shid

[uneven anchor]

famas has like giga bsa tho

im gonna defend it actually

[lean frost]

Nuked oden bsa>>

[uneven anchor]

oden firerate incident

[austere igloo]

Dunno, i tend to land more shots w famas than swordfish

[austere igloo]

I hv oden duplex

[runic hornet]

swordfish is funny in countersniping

[austere igloo]

Rn my ars r m16, oden duplex, famas & drh

[nimble spear]

They gave m16 a full auto attachment they should give famas a burst attachment

[austere igloo]

Surprisingly i can land shots easily w famas

[lean frost]

They should give it that mag which gives its 1100 rpm

[austere igloo]

Maybe bcoz of attachments ig

[austere igloo]

Wasnt it burst originally?

Famas is originally a burst gun right?

[nimble spear]

It's flipped throughout the series. First one in MW2 was burst yes

[ruby iris]

Bout dat

Also shit aimshake

[uneven anchor]

one moment

[austere igloo]

Use smart rifle, no aimshake👍

[runic marsh]

Anyone have a newer build for the mw11 or .50 gs?

[ruby iris]

I was talking about aimshake as mechanic

Not visual aimshake

[austere igloo]

I mean its not much of a detriment for me so

Kinda like how @uneven anchor has no issues w agr recoil

[uneven anchor]

can we get much higher?? So highh, oooohhhh uh ohhhhh.

[austere igloo]

[strange rivet]

My man touched so much grass he's level 40 now

[austere igloo]

Um…thanks??

[strange rivet]

Your welcome

[austere igloo]

Eh yo what deagle skin is that

[lean frost]

Threat in the dark

[austere igloo]

Obtained from where?

[lean frost]

I forgor

[uneven anchor]

remember my full bsa kilo? I should do that but LK

[austere igloo]

Oh hell naw

[ruby iris]

Me when i nuke mobility, remove suppression and doesnt have a good magsize just for my gun to shoot straight

[ruby iris]

Oden

Do that on oden

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

Ok

sniper oden meta
is reeaaaal!

[runic marsh]

Tanks

[uneven anchor]

can we get much higheer?

[austere igloo]

[lean frost]

I copied that gunsmith with kilo

LK*

[austere igloo]

U absolute madman

[uneven anchor]

Meta

[ruby iris]

Oden when

[uneven anchor]

LK still loses to Famas BSA

[austere igloo]

How bout full bsa drh?

[uneven anchor]

Famas W

[austere igloo]

I wanna see that

[lean frost]

Isn't oden bsa in comp stats bugged

[ruby iris]

Having recoil not dependent on bsa > .1 bsa

[ruby iris]

Ye nvm

[austere igloo]

Can someone make a full bsa drh & get back to me?

[ruby iris]

Drh has good bsa wdym

[lean frost]

dis skin gud

[austere igloo]

I mean like just spec it for bsa

Screw mobility

For drh

Build somethin’ like that

[lean frost]

7.4 bsa

[austere igloo]

Goes great w elite pmc crisis

[lean frost]

In-game metric

[uneven anchor]

cant wait for a supressor that increases bsa and increases like recoil by 30 percent

Idk im not a game dev

[lean frost]

So just steel rain supp but bsa instead of range

[uneven anchor]

balanced 👍

[austere igloo]

There we go

[runic hornet]

your gun just flies off your hand when you hipfire

[uneven anchor]

yes, we’ll call it steel evaporation or something

very creative

[austere igloo]

Steel condenser better

[lean frost]

How do u evaporate steel

[uneven anchor]

How do you rain steel?

[austere igloo]

U cant, only melt

U can only melt or liquefy steel

[lean frost]

Using a Y-20 or C-130

[uneven anchor]

its so hot we skip the liquid stage

[austere igloo]

Then thats called sublimation

Evaporation is from liquid to gas stage

From solid to gas now thats sublimation

[strange rivet]

I have notes from Chem last year isn't gas to solid condensation

[uneven anchor]

thats it! Steel sublimation supressor

damn sounds kinda poggussy

[austere igloo]

No thats gas to liquid

[austere igloo]

[lean frost]

Just call it Cronen Titanium supp

[ruby iris]

Reminder to hipfire your lcar when needed

[austere igloo]

I do

[uneven anchor]

remember to

[lean frost]

Cuz rds 3 has cronen on its side

[austere igloo]

In fact i believe lcar9 was made for the sole purpose of hipfiring

Hipfire pistol

[uneven anchor]

no, steel sublimation

[lean frost]

Add Tec-9 when

[austere igloo]

Add kap45 first

[uneven anchor]

it sounds sick

[strange rivet]

Ok so it's deposition

[austere igloo]

How about steel sublime wait nvm that sounds cringy

[austere igloo]

Huh?

[strange rivet]

Gas to solid

[rich arch]

Is it me or do I just always put red dots on trash ironsights, I just can’t deal with it, like the Peacekeeper and Asm10 iron sights

[strange rivet]

Asm iron sights aren't half bad

[austere igloo]

Bruh those guns ironsights r not trash

[lean frost]

PK ironsights are goated

[austere igloo]

If u want a real trash ironsight look at lapa

[rich arch]

Well you get my point

[lean frost]

Asm is usable

[uneven anchor]

yeah uh..

[austere igloo]

Yes but not for the guns u mentioned

[lean frost]

opinion discarded

[austere igloo]

Besides lapa doesnt hv much aimshake with optic attachments

At least for me

[uneven anchor]

opinion undiscarded and considered

[lean frost]

Opinion thrown into trash bin

[austere igloo]

Pk ironsights poggers

[uneven anchor]

opinion held self evidently true perhaps

[strange rivet]

Verdict should I use light suppressor with 12.7 duplex or no

[lean frost]

Vandal speed loader

[austere igloo]

Ur choice

[lean frost]

I use mono for poggers 2 stk range

[austere igloo]

Goated lapa attachment

[uneven anchor]

if mono cring for you than just tac sup, be a centrist

[lean frost]

Collosusussy

[austere igloo]

Agency supp >>>

[rich arch]

Like for this one I just hate iron sights that have a circle around them, would’ve been better without the circle

[austere igloo]

Uhhh thats man o war

[austere igloo]

Bro this is bearable

[uneven anchor]

holy moly

[austere igloo]

Agency sussy

[uneven anchor]

giga sup fk it
Embrace giga sup

[austere igloo]

[rich arch]

Sorry, just can’t help it but to put red dots on almost everything

[austere igloo]

If u cant stand ironsights i hv no words for u bruh

Bcoz 98% of the guns in the game hv bearable ironsights

[lean frost]

If my supp isn't bigger then my gun
I don't want it

[austere igloo]

I like that they added cat ears into that suppy

[rich arch]

Big mono supp 😏😏😏

[lean frost]

Somehow looks worse without custom supp

[uneven anchor]

mfs when they are in combat irl and cant fight because of the iron sight bothering them

[austere igloo]

Colossus > mono

[austere igloo]

Literally

[lean frost]

Oden has better strafe then Type 25
My day is ruined

[austere igloo]

My day is bttr now

[runic marsh]

Anything you want to see where a skin came from go to codm.gg

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

PUMA Suede.

[lean frost]

Peacekeeper better strafe then both anyway👍

[lean frost]

PUMA Suede
The ultimate icon.

[austere igloo]

But the lateral recoil

[uneven anchor]

Shop Now

[lean frost]

It used to be a laser
But then they decided to Nerf the recoil
cringe

[austere igloo]

[runic marsh]

I can’t find threat in the dark in 50 gs camos tho? Is that the name

[uneven anchor]

T-Mobile LTE

[lean frost]

Oden with its goofy freaking 12.7mm cartridge has less recoil then PK

[austere igloo]

Real shit

[runic marsh]

I have unlimited 5g but it’s so unstable I use lte until I get it fixed

[austere igloo]

Wow

[runic marsh]

My phone is new too, and I live in a popular city… so it should work best :/

[runic marsh]

Ig codm.gg doesn’t have all of them

[rich arch]

Actually, this is the only iron sight I like on the game, MK2 Artifact PK

[uneven anchor]

long boi

[runic hornet]

okay agr is pretty sick it's fun

[lean frost]

Mythic AK ironsights

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

Mythic ak irons have tinted lens

[lean frost]

It's gud
Or mythic oden

[uneven anchor]

its gigasouras cring

mythic oden best irons

[lean frost]

I agree

[rich arch]

‘Babe, just use you’re Supressor’

[uneven anchor]

ayo

[runic hornet]

colossal suppressor for pistols when

[rich arch]

Who remembers iFerg

[ruby iris]

We all, but we dont talk about him

[uneven anchor]

whos that

and why not

[runic hornet]

just some dude

[rich arch]

Yo

[uneven anchor]

oh,

[rich arch]

Yo

[ruby iris]

Some yter

[rich arch]

So um, it’s getting a little awkward in here

[ruby iris]

Idiotic takes

[uneven anchor]

like cygonous

[uneven anchor]

oh

wonder what his takes are

[ruby iris]

Drh for top 10 meta guns

Also shid builds

[uneven anchor]

I mean, top 10 is a long list you can probably fit drh in there

[runic hornet]

the damage he's done to gunsmithing
and people's wallets

[uneven anchor]

that being said, em2 better

[ruby iris]

Top 10 for all guns, not just ars

[uneven anchor]

i mean i see drh in rank once in a while

well top all guns lets see
holgae, bizon, fennec, CBR, sks, Kilo, dlq i guess, krig, m16

xpr

Yeah nvm DRH trash

[lean frost]

wher hvk

[uneven anchor]

29 mag incident

[lean frost]

It's a 3 tap

[runic hornet]

29 mag isn't that bad

[uneven anchor]

fine just squish it in there

uh take out bozon

[lean frost]

Take out M16 imo

[uneven anchor]

its like craig 6 but no bv

thats kinda poggin

[lean frost]

other stats are worse tho

And Krig already has quite good BV

[stray rapids]

Take m16 out of wot

[uneven anchor]

Top 10 list

[stray rapids]

Hm

M16 is good tho

Comp good

Probably 4th ar overal

[uneven anchor]

comp good
where do i find the comp builds

[stray rapids]

Idk

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris comp builds when

[stray rapids]

Just put marksman ranger foregrip tac supp mag on any main ar

You have 80% of a comp build

[uneven anchor]

wtf based?

everyones mad i use ranger grip and comp people actually use it

[stray rapids]

You didn't use mag

[uneven anchor]

Meta

[stray rapids]

O your kilo

[uneven anchor]

well now i did it ok

tac sup fennec perhaps?

[stray rapids]

No

Mono too good

[uneven anchor]

lol true, 10 damage moment

[austere igloo]

Am I high or wasnt this gun previously called “Idol star”?

Did they secretly change name of gun blueprints again?

[dapper laurel]

Yep.

[austere igloo]

Why do they keep doing this?

[uneven anchor]

i thing so

[austere igloo]

Secretly changing names of gun blueprints

[zenith marlin]

who has dlq builds?

[uneven anchor]

Anime Girl driving sales

[austere igloo]

& now theyve given it a cheap ass name like “aNiMe gIrL”

Idol star sounded way bttr

Anime girl is so cliché

[uneven anchor]

literal NPC name

[austere igloo]

Activ making silly decisions as usual

[zenith marlin]

can someone dm me if you got dlq builds

if anyone has good sniper builds dm me

[uneven anchor]

wtf ranger grip barely effects type strafe

[lean frost]

Show

[uneven anchor]

most recommended instead of my build is
Ext mag A
light suppressor
FMJ
combat stock
Mip light

[upper osprey]

Which need to be changed?

I am a snd player

[uneven anchor]

wow uh.. fat wallet

[cosmic vessel]

Which one is better?
the ICR or the DR-H?

[zenith marlin]

thanks imma try this

[strange rivet]

cbr: tac suppressor, marksman barrel, light stock, tac laser, granulated grip
switchblade: decent, maybe skeleton stock to light stock
mx9: tactical grip to infiltrator grip or regular f
oregrip

[uneven anchor]

ranger forgrip barely nuked that mf

[upper osprey]

OK

[strange rivet]

msmc: marksman to ranger barrel, granulated to no stock

mac: field agent to steel stock

[upper osprey]

I change it later

[uneven anchor]

its like ADS speed on kilo, impossible to nuke @lean frost

[strange rivet]

ok

[lean frost]

Hm

[uneven anchor]

ranger foregrip is back on the table, comp users use it

Time to test type ranger foregrip

[upper osprey]

Thank u so much

[uneven anchor]

i made dm on accident

[uneven anchor]

you’re welcome nahida

[upper osprey]

How about these 3 assault?

[upper osprey]

Oh u play genshin too?

[austere igloo]

Shld i go for the bk57?

[uneven anchor]

bruh this mf has all mythics

[upper osprey]

[uneven anchor]

hell yee boii

[upper osprey]

Which server u r playing at

[upper osprey]

No lol just 8

7max

[uneven anchor]

north america

good krig
good m13 i think but idk because i build mine differently
and kilo. Is alright

[upper osprey]

Cryyy

[uneven anchor]

wait why rubberized

[upper osprey]

I am playing at Taiwan server

[uneven anchor]

big sad

[upper osprey]

Idk just don't know what last gadget most suitable

[uneven anchor]

i wanted to flex my 300 crit dmg ganyu

[upper osprey]

Holy

[uneven anchor]

yeah shes pretty busted but uh.. has no attack

[upper osprey]

What's her crit rate?

[uneven anchor]

Its ok ganyu bennet melt

[uneven anchor]

50

[upper osprey]

Wtf

Ur ganyu r so good

Mine was 52/192

But i am using the amos

[uneven anchor]

still good

its cuz im using aqua

[upper osprey]

But my yoimiya is a little bit horrible

[uneven anchor]

consider this kilo

or this one, if you feel a bit brave

[upper osprey]

71.6/261.5

[upper osprey]

Urm

[uneven anchor]

goated yoimiya

[uneven anchor]

ok hear me out, competitive players use ranger grip so.. its okay actually

its built for massive bsa

[upper osprey]

Bro can i add u friend on discord

U r so friendly

[uneven anchor]

sure!

[upper osprey]

Hell yeah

[ruby iris]

When the gonsmething

Is oge

[uneven anchor]

ganyu gunsmith

[ruby iris]

I play gaeshit too

[upper osprey]

U guys pulled for yelan?

[undone sandal]

real

[uneven anchor]

yeah

[ruby iris]

[upper osprey]

Imagine ganyu use zrg

[uneven anchor]

double hydro, poggin

[upper osprey]

With the anti vehicle

[uneven anchor]

she literally does tho my god

[upper osprey]

[uneven anchor]

rip bozo hilichurl

[upper osprey]

I love her too

[upper osprey]

🤣

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris peep out my new kilo build

sanest catgang build

[ruby iris]

Remove no stock

[uneven anchor]

is that how the comp players do it

[upper osprey]

I have to left have other stuff to suffer

[ruby iris]

Why ranger fg when you just cancel it out with no stock

[upper osprey]

Bye

[ruby iris]

Use skeleton or some shit

[uneven anchor]

bc like 14 bsa

poggin

nvm it has 16

[ruby iris]

Use skeleton stock

Or better yet, disable

[uneven anchor]

pog yes

[ruby iris]

If you want to comp build

[uneven anchor]

fk it we wildin

all my homies hate strafe

[ruby iris]

Imagine building your guns for comps and dont know how comp builds works

Smh

[uneven anchor]

well fk ionno im not comp slave

i am learning to become one however

[ruby iris]

Same tbh

[uneven anchor]

see you at the championships rice

[ruby iris]

Tac supp, elb/ranger, mag, ranger fg, free slot (do not use no stock)

[uneven anchor]

This is pog, im just gonna ask for comp build from now on

[undone sandal]

is this tec's kilo build

[zenith marlin]

whsos got locus builds

[undone sandal]

light supp
light short barrel
skeleton stock
stippled
fmj

[cosmic vessel]

Yo @ruby iris what's the best ICR and DR-H builds?

[austere igloo]

@cosmic vessel

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris CBR4 - Competitive

[cosmic vessel]

Is echo grenade good?

[austere igloo]

Meh

Echo grenade is rarely used

[stray rapids]

@austere igloo br

[austere igloo]

Busy now

Gimme 20mins

[stray rapids]

Aight

[sweet hill]

dlq loadout for br?

[whole moss]

all my homies barely notice ads speed

[inland sinew]

My lil bro max but ain't using any attachments on his guns

[strange rivet]

light suppressor
light barrel
strike stock
fast switch
maevwat omega-1

[peak leaf]

ELMOOOOOO

@strange rivet

[bitter halo]

Any suggestions for SVD BR gunsmith? I am running

• RTC Comp
• RTC 660
• OWC Skel Stock
• OWC Tac laser
• 15 extended

[peak leaf]

personal preference but i use fmj or fast hands over a mag

[fallen crystal]

i didnt see this until now but is the fr. 556 the most accurate gun

cause i can get 111 acc on it

[clear cosmos]

I use either one of these, personally prefer without the stun mag (its gonna get nerfed next season)

[fallen crystal]

everyone thought stun mag would be op then it ended up being shit

lol

[clear cosmos]

its annoying though

its terrible in mp though

[fallen crystal]

also is the fr. 556 the most accurate gun in the game

cause i can get 111 accuracy on it

[clear cosmos]

Its statistically not the most accurate, no

[fallen crystal]

and it has like no ads spread

[fallen crystal]

which gun is?

[clear cosmos]

for assault rifles the kilo

[fallen crystal]

yeah but i think its max acc is 81

the fr. has NO ads spread with the right build

like i even go like REALLY far away and my shots hit like tf

altought kilo super accurate tho, its also a beam

[cosmic vessel]

What's the best tactical

[clear cosmos]

do realize that the ingame statistics (these) are usually false

[runic hornet]

getting hit by the stun mag is so loud

[clear cosmos]

dont rely on these numbers

[fallen crystal]

i just use stims but gas grenades and concusions are very good as well

[clear cosmos]

trophies

[cosmic vessel]

Those red stats don't matter right?

[fallen crystal]

still tho even in practice range its bullet spread is non existent

[clear cosmos]

Its compared to a different weapon I had equipped

[clear cosmos]

most weapons can have that, though not recommended

[fallen crystal]

also ngl even base fr. with no attachements its accuracy is crazy

[clear cosmos]

It really isnt

[fallen crystal]

fr. been carrying my long range fights even better than my kilo has

and I been using kilo since it came out, its my fav gun in the game

[clear cosmos]

State the gunsmiths

[fallen crystal]

I been using fr. no attachments in ranked that how stupid it is

[clear cosmos]

Its not the most accurate, like you stated

Mow got better bsa due to a recent buff lmao

[fallen crystal]

yeah but literally mow is outclassed by so many more guns

[clear cosmos]

you were talking about accuracy, not about general performance

[fallen crystal]

yeah but you have to turn the mow into a slow gun for it to have good bsa

[clear cosmos]

it has base better bsa

than the famas

[fallen crystal]

id actually argue that, even in practice range im seeing base famas is way better at accuracy at longer ranges than mow

mid range you cant really tell but long range you can really see it

[clear cosmos]

your unbelievably stupid, statistically the mow has better bsa than the famas, I really dont understand why you keep denying that

you seem persistent

[unreal gale]

do you mean bsa or recoil?

[fallen crystal]

bsa

[unreal gale]

here, try this: put a red dot on both of the guns and then try again

[fallen crystal]

been doing that actually

[clear cosmos]

that way of testing is inaccurate and will make the result either incorrect or not precise

[fallen crystal]

id actually say mow has better bsa but its recoil makes it harder to actually hit until fr.

cause close range mow it great but at long the recoil makes it to hard to keep it consistent

[unreal gale]

no. A red dot removes any placebo of either of the ironsights. It definitely yields a more precise result

[clear cosmos]

thats a better statement

[clear cosmos]

Its also due to capabilities of the person testing, yet you have a point it will be a more accurate test

[unreal gale]

what?

oh I see. The capability is for recoil though, not bsa

[clear cosmos]

correct

[unreal gale]

you having aimbot doesn't exactly make your bsa better

[clear cosmos]

since someone here mentioned "its recoil"

[clear cosmos]

👍

[unreal gale]

though there are some guns which have statistically great bsa but feel super inaccurate

most noteable one is the chopper

[fallen crystal]

i should say ive turned off aim assist months ago so

[unreal gale]

turn it back on

[fallen crystal]

hell no

i actually have gotten better due to no aimbot

[unreal gale]

don't listen to the idiots who tell you putting yourself at a disadvantage somehow proves your skill

[ruby iris]

You dont need to overstack bsa tbh

[clear cosmos]

correct

[ruby iris]

Just get enough for your effective range

[unreal gale]

no one cares that you can play with your toes. If you can win, you're better

[clear cosmos]

agreed

[minor dragon]

i feel the opposite

[clear cosmos]

included to balance the loadout out on where it needs, it doesnt need a rubber grip, for example, just pull down

[fallen crystal]

oh no i did it so myself so i can improve on my aim cause i felt like it wasnt that good, and it actually helped a lot

[unreal gale]

trust me. Aim assist is better

if it's not for any reason, you should probably check your centering

if you can center well, aim assist will allow you to absolutely beam trace

there's a reason why literally everyone good uses it

[ruby iris]

Both on and off works, it's just preference, but most ppl kept it on cuz they're used to it, doesnt change performance all that much

[unreal gale]

I disagree with that

[ruby iris]

I keep it on

[unreal gale]

most people can't pin point their aim enough to make micro adjustments

[clear cosmos]

I kept it off, its since I would like to suffer

[unreal gale]

you can get your crosshair in the general right area

[fallen crystal]

i prefer aim assist off cause whenever I used it, it would oddly shift more to the left and a lot of times i would be REALLY off center due to aim assit

[unreal gale]

so aim assist does the rest for you

there's nothing that can replace that, only like hundreds of hours of flicking I guess

[fallen crystal]

like id be barely hitting the arm lol

[clear cosmos]

understandable

[unreal gale]

especially since speed acceleration is kinda a must for versatile game play

[fallen crystal]

id say also my flicking has gotten better without aim assist lol

im still not super good at it but its gotten a little better

[unreal gale]

there literally does not exist a player who has mastered the flick to the level where they don't need micro adjustments

[clear cosmos]

do you have a clip?

[ruby iris]

I've seen ppl playing with aa off for like 2 years plus, and their aim went down trememdously when they turn it on, the opposite also happen, so just use the one you're more used to

[unreal gale]

no. There's a difference between getting used to new controls and better long term

if you switch from a phone to an ipad for instance, the first week or two is gonna feel like crap

but there's no denying that ipad is the far superior device. Take it for a spin for like 2 weeks and you'll feel the difference. It's quite noticeable

If someone plays without aim assist for 2 years, you can't just compare the results of not using it for 10 minutes

the adapting time is usually around 5-10 hours I would say. That's the only fair way to compare results

[ruby iris]

I wish i've gotten used to aa off, i hate when the micro adjustment fucks my aim over, but i've gotten so used to it

[ruby iris]

That was a 1 month comparision

[whole moss]

same

[unreal gale]

otherwise it doesn't matter how bad the hud or setting or device is, the current one will definitely perform better than a new one if you've use your current one for like 2 years and just switched to a new one

[fallen crystal]

i been using aa off for about 6 months now and ive actually noticed my aim getting better than it did when I had it on

[whole moss]

i used aa for like my entire codm journey, i turned it off a few days ago

[fallen crystal]

thats me personally

[unreal gale]

that's because your aim got better

if you used aa, it would have gotten even better

[whole moss]

tbh even with aa i still suck

[unreal gale]

something else that people really overlook is the importance of practicing aim explicitly

don't just play rank or play shipment

[full hearth]

Hi guys new player here is this weapon good?

[unreal gale]

if your aim sucks, it'll take years for your aim to get any better

[fallen crystal]

id argue cause micro adjustments and also it didnt teach me to adjust my aim since the aa would do it for me (even thought it would fuck me over)

[unreal gale]

go shoot a bloody target in the training range until you can actually hit what you're aiming for

[ruby iris]

Nice long range, meh close range

[unreal gale]

then go play ranked

[clear cosmos]

I dont know, is it

[unreal gale]

it's not.

[clear cosmos]

Its terrible up close

Good on medium to longer ranges

[fallen crystal]

lk-24 imo it good long range yeah

[unreal gale]

you never learn to do those micro adjustments. Simply not possible

which is why you need aa to cover for you

micro adjustments is actually the number 1 way to check if someone is using a soft aim bot

[near zenith]

Sup ppl

[unreal gale]

why? because it's not human

[clear cosmos]

what about the pc players?

[unreal gale]

pc is different

[clear cosmos]

[unreal gale]

a mouse is way more precise first of all, but it also uses a completely different mechanism

[fallen crystal]

i understand that but aa doesnt help close range

[unreal gale]

moving your mouse over a little bit is different to rolling your finger in an arbitary direction

[trail ginkgo]

Does anyone have a good R-90 gunsmith ?,

[clear cosmos]

interesting

[clear cosmos]

stack with bsa

[ruby iris]

This barely matters to me tbh, i basically stopped playing codm outside of bp/camo grinding, and those things takes 0 skills

[unreal gale]

it doesn't, because the angle that aa can help you with is trivial at closer ranges.

[clear cosmos]

ig

[fallen crystal]

which is why i have it off cause i play close range smg or use certain close range ar builds

[unreal gale]

again, AA is for micro adjustments

you don't need micro adjustments at closer ranges

[fallen crystal]

i play long range if i need to but i try my best to stay away from them

[unreal gale]

because adjustments at closer ranges are not micro

[trail ginkgo]

I use the same gunsmith L nvm

[fallen crystal]

which is why i dont even have any sniper past lvl 10 lol

[unreal gale]

no man. You turn it on for long range. AA doesn't affect close range at all

[clear cosmos]

L?

whys that

[unreal gale]

don't give me the "I don't play long range"

If you don't play long range, then AA shouldn't affect you

[ruby iris]

I dont play mp

[ruby iris]

[clear cosmos]

[clear cosmos]

what in tarnation

[ruby iris]

Remove rub

[clear cosmos]

rubber grip?

5mw?

what in actual tarnation

[ruby iris]

5mw works cuz you still hipfire a decent bit with it

[clear cosmos]

fair point

[fallen crystal]

i mean i would use 5mw cause i use shotguns w hipfire only

unless i use slugs

[clear cosmos]

[ruby iris]

But ye, remove rub for gran

[trail ginkgo]

Quick scoping with shotgun is harder than quick scoping Snipers

[clear cosmos]

no?

[ruby iris]

@crimson mist inappropriate name

[fallen crystal]

id agree cause shotguns can be incosisntent sometimes

[trail ginkgo]

Ik my brother in Christ

[fallen crystal]

i love the by-15 with slugs but god is the bsa kinda weird on it

[unreal gale]

there's only one other person who I've seen say that.

[trail ginkgo]

By 15 is good

Both in br and mp

[ruby iris]

You could change your name, or ask a mod to change your server name so you still keep your regular name

[fallen crystal]

by-15 god tier

[trail ginkgo]

Wait

[fallen crystal]

great example of why by-15 is my fav shotgun

it plays so damn smooth

my second fav is krm

[trail ginkgo]

Should I change my AK build ?

[unreal gale]

The amount of skill to use it at that level is unbelievable

That's not me fyi

[fallen crystal]

YES dont use gru use ranger imo

[ruby iris]

Ye

[unreal gale]

#UseASilencer

[trail ginkgo]

Most unskilled player shotgun player in garena

[fallen crystal]

funny thing i almost never use silencers for my guns

[trail ginkgo]

Just a joke

[ruby iris]

it's called a suppressor

[trail ginkgo]

Same

It's kinda goofy

[unreal gale]

cool man. cool cool. cooool....

[fallen crystal]

i use it for my switchblade but other than that i dont really use them

[unreal gale]

🆒

[fallen crystal]

QQ9 has like no need for a supressor

[unreal gale]

you really should

I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot in this server (and I can only guess how much you need to repeat yourself @ruby iris)

But suppressors are a crucial part of every viable build

[ruby iris]

Smh imagine not getting a meta gun joke

[unreal gale]

why is it a meta gun joke

[ruby iris]

(meta as in gun discussion, not codm guns)

[fallen crystal]

i been using this QQ9 build for ages and I have never needed a suppressor

[unreal gale]

? kinda lost

[ruby iris]

The original creator calls it a silencer

[unreal gale]

there's no way you're using fast reload kill instead of mono 🗿

[ruby iris]

Idk why suppressor is the commonly used name

[fallen crystal]

mono sucks ass

[unreal gale]

it's the correct name

[fallen crystal]

on switchblade its great

[unreal gale]

I just call it silencer.

[unreal gale]

it's really not at all.

you could even try disable

if you really want to use a perk

but really trust me, no one uses that perk

and for a reason too

[fallen crystal]

my switchblade build

[ruby iris]

both are interchangeable, some even calls it a sound moderator, but theres a vocal minority insisting that it's called a suppressor

[unreal gale]

I'd switch mono for a tactical suppressor

[ruby iris]

That's the meta joke

[unreal gale]

yeah I'm completely out of the loop for that joke

[ruby iris]

Felt so unfunny once you explain the joke ngl

[unreal gale]

yeah. as with most jokes haha

[unreal gale]

you could also switch laser for disable and abuse the jack out of hardscope pushing

Super popular strat in Japanese comp

[fallen crystal]

you cant say attach a suppressor for this one lol

[ionic mortar]

any good svd loadout for aggressive

[unreal gale]

because it's already silenced

[tulip umbra]

Can I get a cbr4 build

[unreal gale]

but also that build. Oh my.

your switch blade was not bad.

[fallen crystal]

what now

[unreal gale]

that one is bad.

[fallen crystal]

have you used it

[unreal gale]

honestly like everything

[ionic mortar]

is this build good?

[unreal gale]

@ruby iris can tell you more

[fallen crystal]

imo yes

[unreal gale]

no it really isn't

[fallen crystal]

it works great

[ionic mortar]

send the info pic

[unreal gale]

first of all, asval is basically a high recoil smg

you should not be building it for range

2. Because it has no long range capability, you don't need to stack bsa at all

3. The barrels are really really good on the asval so you should definitely use one of them

[ionic mortar]

i only use asval as trigger discipline practice because of the ammo

[unreal gale]

use HVK for that

[ruby iris]

Attach a suppressor

[ionic mortar]

still haven't got the heavy mag

[unreal gale]

[fallen crystal]

I SWEAR that was such a dumb idea for that skin to be a rus skin

[unreal gale]

I agree with that. 100%

[ionic mortar]

extra long suspressor

[ruby iris]

It says as val right there

[unreal gale]

makes no sense

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

that is such an ugly emote. Please consider using a different one :|

[ionic mortar]

heheheha

[ruby iris]

I tried to make a comp build for val

[ionic mortar]

we got the same camo

[ruby iris]

Prolly use soh over disable, since disable is banned

[fallen crystal]

ok what about my krig buil

[ruby iris]

Remove laser

[unreal gale]

^^

[ionic mortar]

what playstyle?

[unreal gale]

swap to an agency suppressor

[ionic mortar]

but remove laser because it already have good bsa

[ruby iris]

^

[unreal gale]

swap your barrel to a stock too

[ionic mortar]

fast extended mag ;-;

[unreal gale]

and you'll have a good build. wait, also the mag to a mag b

[ruby iris]

Can swap optic or stock to bo fg

[unreal gale]

bad skin = bad build

[ionic mortar]

also you can use default look

[fallen crystal]

i cant swap optic i hate the krig irons

[ruby iris]

[unreal gale]

good skin = good player

[ruby iris]

Fund pls

[ionic mortar]

i have lava krig only 😦

[unreal gale]

I should've given an account to you honestly

[ruby iris]

Nah, i wont even play tbh

[unreal gale]

had one with like 30 different skins

you'd make very good use of it

[ruby iris]

I just like collecting skins

[unreal gale]

wait no you won't. You don't even play global 🗿

[ruby iris]

^

[ruby iris]

i can sell that acc for robux

[unreal gale]

but you could update your gunsmiths with good skins

[ruby iris]

[runic marsh]

Why doesn’t the info match? Or am I just dumb?

[ionic mortar]

fun fact = you dont need to be rich to be good

[fallen crystal]

what about my qxr build (yes i know i dont used the better bolt attachment fight me)

[ionic mortar]

you just need to know your past mistakes and improve from it

[ruby iris]

Also remove the ugly ass vng watermark

[unreal gale]

that is an incorrect opinion

[fallen crystal]

true

[ruby iris]

Most good ppl are rich anyways

[unreal gale]

this?

[ruby iris]

[ionic mortar]

its always like that in frontline and tdm

[signal tulip]

Fennec
Ex Light
Mono Supp
Operator FG
Ex Mag
Gran Tape.

Dis gud?

[ruby iris]

Ye, ugly as shit

[ruby iris]

No

[unreal gale]

I think it looks pretty cool

[fresh sage]

You see, it is essential for gameplay

[unreal gale]

yes.

[ionic mortar]

sadly it doesn't work for me because 3 of my braincells cant do that mid game

[solar oak]

Peacekeeper gunsmith guys

[unreal gale]

don't have a picture rip.

[boreal owl]

Imagine if I have global
Would be funny cuz dif skillbase

[ruby iris]

Mono, light stock, extended mag are the essentials for fennec, then op fg + tac laser for ads focus or rubberized + 5mw for cqc

[unreal gale]

suppressor, trask force, stock, mag, firm grip

trask force. op trust

you can trask everyone you see

[ruby iris]

Agency, taskforce, lightweight, firm, double stack

[signal tulip]

Whats would be good fro Fennec then?

[ruby iris]

@signal tulip

Me when i dont read messages

[signal tulip]

I was browsing reddit at the same time lol

[unreal gale]

you'd climb to legendary, and get smoked by the few sweats that they place in your lobbies

[solar oak]

Tanks

[unreal gale]

don't trust reddit

[boreal owl]

garena is even worse

[unreal gale]

it's not.

[ruby iris]

Vng is even worse

[signal tulip]

Im not ont be codm reddit, I was on a piracy subreddit...

[ruby iris]

You dont even have time for leggy

[signal tulip]

[unreal gale]

global servers is quite unique in the sense that the skill difference you see between people is ridiculous

[fallen crystal]

this a good oden?

[ruby iris]

No

[unreal gale]

probably need a stock

[boreal owl]

Bro garena is like a land full of shitters

[ruby iris]

^

And duplex

[uneven anchor]

yeah.. i dunno how some people make it to leggy in global tbh

[unreal gale]

it's certainly not as bad as china is. And china was super fun to play on

[fallen crystal]

hell no i use the oden as a assault rilfe not a fucking shotgun

[unreal gale]

the average player is definitely better than global, but the skill of players in a lobby is quite even

[boreal owl]

Region might effect your experience

[unreal gale]

unlike global. Who you get on your team is literally all that matters, especially once you get to top 5k

You literally get to know everyone good in your region

[boreal owl]

The separated region for garena is help

[unreal gale]

and the particular player you get literally decides who wins

[ruby iris]

Have fun lol, duplex lowkey only attachment that makes oden consistebt

[boreal owl]

Fr

[unreal gale]

garena ranked experience is certainly better than global top 5k trust me

[fallen crystal]

hell no it makes it way harder to use

[boreal owl]

Garena top 5k

[unreal gale]

garena would be much more like codm china

[ruby iris]

Same story in vng, but it's decided by who has more hackers on their team

[unreal gale]

same deal. I actually got top around top 1k on china server (with like 120ms) and the games were super fun

[boreal owl]

Damn

[ruby iris]

My most epic match was a 3v3 between 6 hackers

[unreal gale]

sweaty? yes. But very fun, because the teams are very balanced

[boreal owl]

How did they win

Who shoots first?

Smth like that???

[ruby iris]

But it increases consistency?

[fallen crystal]

explain how

[boreal owl]

Fr but
Like I said region might effect experience

[unreal gale]

you can predict experience based on the nature of the regions

[fallen crystal]

cause i use oden for longer ranges

[unreal gale]

more people = easier to rank up. That's a general rule.
more sweaty = more fun to play because teams are more balanced

[boreal owl]

My region is smth

[fresh sage]

Garena id be like

[unreal gale]

your region is something. Yes it is

[boreal owl]

Smth cringe tbh

[ruby iris]

1/4 pellets to chest/arms for 2sk instead 1/2 shots

[fresh sage]

Out of 20 ranked gm match I've been in
1 is perfectly balanced

[boreal owl]

Mixed of vng/kids/free fire retired

Many shit

[fresh sage]

True

[signal tulip]

whats vng?

[ruby iris]

Similar story for 3sk range

[unreal gale]

well get to top 5k

once games get sweaty, they're balanced

because, well, everyone is sweaty

[fresh sage]

Teammates 0.5 kd and 10s in the objectives:

[unreal gale]

Just carry harder. Literally.

[uneven anchor]

im getting smacked by the mfing drh

[unreal gale]

teammates suck for everyone

[uneven anchor]

3 stk meta is real

[unreal gale]

or, stack with someone else you know to be good

global you get distributions like this

[fresh sage]

I'm not a carry tbh

Im more the obj guy

[unreal gale]

that's even better then

[fresh sage]

I had this teammate who went 49/12 yet 0s in obj

[unreal gale]

you can carry harder

[fallen crystal]

true

[fresh sage]

Funny man

[unreal gale]

oh he carried you guys for sure then

[fresh sage]

Yeh I was 1:30m

[ruby iris]

Me when i ignore a comment explaining to me what i dont know

[fresh sage]

I should put auav in my entire Loadout

[lusty obsidian]

Why is always camos for weapons I never really use lol

[unreal gale]

how the optimal hardpoint set up works is:
1 dude anchors. 3 dudes cut people off and slay. Only ONE dude stands on the obj

[fallen crystal]

what?

[unreal gale]

if one of your slayers slays incredibly well, it allows you to just squat on the point

[ruby iris]

@fallen crystal

[fallen crystal]

duplex sucks im not using it

[ruby iris]

Why does it suck?

[unreal gale]

they all look quite ugly anyway

[ruby iris]

[fallen crystal]

how good is it at long range

dude is 30m away

how many of my fucking shots are gonna miss

[lusty obsidian]

How dare you say that about Red Sprite

[unreal gale]

just get diamond since it looks good and you can acquire it with 100% certainty

[ruby iris]

5 pellets to kill instead of 3 shots

[lusty obsidian]

Ngl this look dope af

[unreal gale]

I don't like red sprite. It's not ugly but it's not great

[fresh sage]

Blistering magma is the only tournament camo that's worth it

[fallen crystal]

3 shots that will actually hit instead of praying the 5 will

[unreal gale]

I don't like the magma one very much either tbh

[lusty obsidian]

The one I have the most of. Woot woot

[fallen crystal]

[unreal gale]

too much default black

[ruby iris]

Duplex just increases your overall consistency, i dont see a reason not to use it

[fresh sage]

Current one is someone puke on gold and call it day

[lusty obsidian]

I like the Undead Siege the most… but guess we don’t have that any@ore

[unreal gale]

agreed

[unreal gale]

that one is nice yeah. I personally like the blue one though

[fallen crystal]

ive played against people who use duplex and i beat them almost every time cause DUPLEX SUCKS

[unreal gale]

looks really nice on certain guns

[ruby iris]

5 pellet is still 3 shot, so it might help if you're aim gets thrown off target

You still get 7.8 bsa if you use duplex

So bsa isnt an issue

Only reason i see for running mag a over duplex is that you're desperate for that extra 5 rounds per mag

[boreal owl]

Can we have full gold camo and shiny

[lusty obsidian]

They definitely have a certain gun they only look good on imo

Green and the light blue definitely the ugliest tho

[fallen crystal]

polychromatic my fav tournament camo

[lusty obsidian]

Yeah that one sick, but def not my #1 pick.

I guess I like the purple / red / orange colors because they did a shit job of camos for mobile

[ruby iris]

Also viable

[boreal owl]

The fucking

Supp

[stray rapids]

💀

[ruby iris]

L O N G

[boreal owl]

[stray rapids]

Prove it

😠

[boreal owl]

Prove what

Bro prove what

[stray rapids]

Your dubious claim

[boreal owl]

What is it

[stray rapids]

Istg we ask tych to check the deleted messages

[ruby iris]

🇱 🇴 🇳 🇬

[boreal owl]

Ong fr

[stray rapids]

Schlort

[boreal owl]

Bro spent his whole life tryna get the word

[ruby iris]

[boreal owl]

[signal tulip]

It aint called colossus for nothin

So long its 2/3s tbe length of thr gun

[austere igloo]

CoLOLssus

[signal tulip]

colosSUS

ඞඞඞඞ

[fresh sage]

Live reaction

[rich arch]

I want to start playing using 4 fingers on my mobiles. What would be the best HUD and some tips?

[fresh sage]

The best hud is the one your comfortable with

Seriously

[rich arch]

[near zenith]

shorty build pls

[near mountain]

Dis gud or no

[minor dragon]

no

[rich arch]

Lol exactly looks like a screwdriver in my region

[near mountain]

Good cuz dats some other guys build

[minor dragon]

replace stock with no stock and put granulated instead of short barrel. Also replace the tactical suppressor with monolithic

[rich arch]

[near mountain]

I wanna make a twin loadout since i barely use the surgical incision blueprints

[near mountain]

Done thanks

[near mountain]

It looks like a powered drill lmao

[rich arch]

[cosmic vessel]

Yo guys

What's the best fov and sensitivity for AR users?

[rich arch]

Hmm

[jade rover]

Virginia

Hmm

[rich arch]

🛂

[river shadow]

which gun should i use if im in between rushing and mid range fighting?

[rich arch]

Bizon

[uneven anchor]

real and true and factual and based and scientific and cataclysmic

[fresh sage]

It's a fr (556) moment

[runic marsh]

[cobalt trout]

@ruby iris dm me or ping me with the best asm 10 gunsmith

Pls

[undone sandal]

mono
light short
nostock
tac laser
mag

[cobalt trout]

BRUH

SO FAST

Thank you so much

[rich arch]

Is m4 even good still

[zenith marlin]

someone send me the best locus build or any sniper other than dlq since i already have it pls

[obsidian current]

guys wtf wrong with my gunsmith here

people just spam downvotes blindly if they dunno how to gunsmith???

[whole moss]

your build is unusual

that's why ig

[obsidian current]

whats the usual build

[undone sandal]

has barrel

[obsidian current]

nobody knows how to gunsmith lapa in general i asked many guys

[obsidian current]

lapa barrels arent good

[whole moss]

this is the usual lapa build iirc

[obsidian current]

ahh lemme check

i remember i once sent a gunsmith with ranger

and people downvoted

then i put striker for better ads movement since lapa got good range already for dmg

[ruby iris]

300m/s bv

Ranger barrel is crutch on lapa

[obsidian current]

@ruby iris @whole moss

0.8 m/s ads movement difference for 1m only

ads movement are important

[undone sandal]

300m/s → 498m/s
i think ur missing the bigger picturr

[obsidian current]

bro bullet speed is fast anyway

[undone sandal]

how is 300m/s fast

that shit slow asf

[lean frost]

Where barrel

[ruby iris]

Val is 450 and is considered slow

[lean frost]

Lapa's BV is horrifically slow
Without barrel I wouldn't use it

[obsidian current]

if enemy is 10m away itll take 33ms to reach him normally with ur ranger its 22ms only 10ms diffrence

[obsidian current]

bro diffrence is sooo slight

this is a damn bullet

s fast regardless

look at ads movement speed

[undone sandal]

no thx

[obsidian current]

its more important to dodge enemy bulelts

0.8m/s is ALOT

[lean frost]

Lapa's strafe on the other hand is quite solid regardless

Much better to improve BV

[obsidian current]

no 4m/s is avg

[obsidian current]

for 10ms per 10m

so if enemy is 20m away its barely 20ms diffrence

[opaque granite]

Hola

[obsidian current]

not worth the strafe penalty

[lean frost]

20 ms is the difference between Val's hitscan ttk
And PK's 4 stk
For context

[undone sandal]

20m
+4f 300m/s
+2-3f 498m/s

[lean frost]

^

[undone sandal]

add that to lapa ttk

[whole moss]

why do you always mention pk

[obsidian current]

ye its insignificant

[lean frost]

It's pretty significant

[lean frost]

.

[lean frost]

Good gun👍

[obsidian current]

not for the strafe penalty

lol btw