codm-gunsmith-help

[jade rover]

I showed first ten when beam is first 5 rounds and TTK is 4

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

@rich arch show me where ur build has better accuracy

[jade rover]

How can you ever compare these two

Crap wrong video

Either way

[lean frost]

The video isn't loading to begin with to there's that

[jade rover]

Ill do first ten rounds type 25 same as with val one sec

[lean frost]

That's the thing tho
It is a bad build, best way to build most ARs is just to try and balance out strafe, bsa and range while keeping other factors like ads time managed
There's exceptions like Icr-1 and Val

[lean frost]

Could u get the standard AK build while at it

It's mono, ext light, no stock, owc tac, ext mag A iirc

while this build kills mobility

[tawny walrus]

No.

[jade rover]

In a sec

[uncut yarrow]

What is best gunsmith for oden?

[lean frost]

And show its stats compared to this AK build here

[lean frost]

@jade rover

[jade rover]

First two are 10 and second two are 20m respectively

Ill do that now

[tawny walrus]

That’s only good build for CBR.

[lean frost]

I mean ye, Val's initial recoil is better
But Type's overall more consistent with its recoil

[solid kestrel]

Clase de M4 para Br?

[lean frost]

Halfway through the mag there's quite a big horizontal kick on Val
And well, the end it does jumps up alot, but we can ignore that here since it usually doesn't take that many rounds to kill 1 person

[inland kayak]

Can someone tell me the best dlq lodout

Can you send me the build

[jade rover]

First 5 rounds. Type 25 at 20m, AS VAL at 20m. But I guess otw T25 has better recoil

[lean frost]

Light supp
Short barrel
Combat stock
Ext mag A
Fmj/SoH

For what

[inland kayak]

Thx man

[jade rover]

Its accurate enough from Type 25 initially but much more later on than VAL. AS VAL is a laser initially but do you really need that(?) and later on it’s worse. So I agree kreuger

Will do AK now

So I should show recoil pattern for this?

Ill do 20, 30 and 40m

And not that it makes a diff but long shot > disable for 3-tap there

[lean frost]

Snipers...don't..have bsa

[jade rover]

And you want RDS?

I’ll use your exact build

But imo either irons or tac scope, no point in RDS

Ffs wrong pic

Do you want no stock I mean

“No stock” or no stock

[lean frost]

no stock as in attachments

[jade rover]

With GRU you should use no stock

What why

[lean frost]

ur build doesn't have any advantages tho

[lean frost]

If it had any advantage I might give it a pass

[jade rover]

Yellow has no stock. If you cant manage that you cant aim at all

[lean frost]

Accuracy wut

[jade rover]

He’s trolling im ignoring it

[lean frost]

Accuracy is roughly the same for standard and ur build

[jade rover]

He’s been here since nov 2021

He’s messing with you

Well you can do it yourself then I guess

[cunning rapids]

??

[jade rover]

You were in chat at the time and wanted to compare your and Kreuger’s builds

👍

Didn’t ping for attention

[remote thunder]

Krig build

[cunning rapids]

When

When did I say i want to compare?

[jade rover]

Soz my bad grammar

I wanted to compare but you were in chat

[lean frost]

Standard build can do the same thing
So there's that

[jade rover]

Lol youre not serious

[rich arch]

can i get an mac10 build pls

[jade rover]

How do you not see he’s trolling

[lean frost]

I see that
I just have nothing better to do

[jade rover]

Here

[remote thunder]

Krig build pls

[lean frost]

Agency
Taskforce
Steel stock
43r/53r mag
Striker FG/firm tape

[jade rover]

Deffo striker

[robust musk]

I can’t control it 😔

[jade rover]

ADS movement speed is 5m/s

[lean frost]

I highly recommend using pharo without rubberized
It's got best recoil

[jade rover]

Skin issue

[lean frost]

👍

[jade rover]

Dont listen vox

[robust musk]

Gran and Ranger fg my go to attachments

[lean frost]

Standard anchoring build

[robust musk]

Yeah struggles of being main AR

[jade rover]

Vox if you cant control mac use fennec

[lean frost]

As a rapidfire peacekeeper user
I dunno what a "main AR" is

[jade rover]

M4 is always the most AR AR in every game

So I guess that

[stray rapids]

What hapen

[lean frost]

Oooh
This is a aggro AR then right?
[I am indeed being sarcastic for anyone wondering]

[stray rapids]

Helo

[jade rover]

He’s just trolling

[stray rapids]

How viable is icr and lk in comp

[jade rover]

Cringe level

[robust musk]

Both unused

[jade rover]

Oh I didn’t notice you were a pro

Just saw green

When did I do that ^

Tag the comment

[stray rapids]

Icr should be more or less identical to m16

What's the build

[jade rover]

M16 wildfire is a different class to ICR

[robust musk]

People would rather M16 WF over ICR, kilo > LK in pretty much every way

[jade rover]

Pls just ignore him look at the stuff he posted

He’s not sincere

[stray rapids]

One thing tho, lk and icr has over 7.6 bsa 👍

It's not terrible, i just have a few complains

[lean frost]

I tried to recommend him on how to build Mp ARs
It didn't work

[stray rapids]

Why not mag B, you're already using gru
Disable

[jade rover]

What do you think about this? Its my baby kinda, been tested by some top players already

[lean frost]

anchoring AK could work with GRU I think
But wouldn't just ranger+mono be better?

[stray rapids]

Buddy, what mobility.

Take a look at the gru

[jade rover]

He is trolling ffs ignore him

[lean frost]

And if GRU, yes, mag B would be nice

[stray rapids]

Eh he say br

[jade rover]

GRU and mobility

[lean frost]

he also said it's good in mp
so there's that

[stray rapids]

Overload on mag? 10 rounds on a gun with ak fire rate aren't exactly peanuts. The penalties however are peanuts

[minor dragon]

GRU is used more for control and BSA

[jade rover]

please dont encourage him if he’s not being genuine

[lean frost]

AK's recoil isn't really there to begin with, BSA is great eitherway, I guess u could use either

[jade rover]

Is there an actual viable GRU build at all?

[teal echo]

Which is the best LMG to invest in?

[minor dragon]

Ever since they buffed it that is.

[jade rover]

Holger 100%

[robust musk]

People bsa stack kilo but tbh Mythic kilo the only relevant kilo in comp anyway

[teal echo]

Ty

[robust musk]

Is standard build can’t go wrong really, I just don’t use the laser

[jade rover]

Oh I didn’t know its a standard build but cool

[stray rapids]

🗿

[jade rover]

Im p sure it’s not 🤷‍♂️

[lean frost]

GRU, Optic, tac, ext mag, perk/gran
Or mono, ranger barrel, ext mag, optic, laser/perk/gran should work for anchor AKs i think
Don't quote me on this

[stray rapids]

Definitely not standard build

[robust musk]

Core is long barrel, black out mag and gran the rest is optional

[jade rover]

Anchor AK just use ranger barrel and a supp why use GRU

[lean frost]

Extra free slot i suppose

[wet osprey]

Hi

[jade rover]

Idk if thats true lol

[stray rapids]

People don't reccomend long barrel anymore, probably because recent times a lot more superior main ARs started popping up

In flex class there aren't much competitors, mainly cbr and pk

Hvk if you don't mind mag

[robust musk]

Tbh, there’s more relevant flex and main ARs

[stray rapids]

That's what i think anyways

[robust musk]

M13 sees no use atm outside of casual play

[teal echo]

Which is the best sniper/marksman rifle? I have used DLQ for so long

[minor dragon]

GRU is good for accuracy and recoil. Besides, range boosting is kinda pointless in BR since the AK has infinite 5 stk

[jade rover]

Yes but (frame perfect crop of kill)

[robust musk]

HVK sees use, more players starting to use it in scrims to trial it atm

[stray rapids]

What's the average scrim build

[stray rapids]

Is this val?

[robust musk]

Depends on ur role and what you want to play

[jade rover]

M13

[stray rapids]

Hm what do u use

[stray rapids]

Ah bruh

[robust musk]

Main AR/SKS, can’t use SKS anymore since banned in ruleset rip

[jade rover]

Lol I mean its broken tbh

[stray rapids]

Hm you think swordfish is possible?

[jade rover]

Needs to have horrendous hit flinch

[stray rapids]

It's a very good long range gun

[minor dragon]

SKS isn't broken

[jade rover]

I agree I think its slept on

[robust musk]

No

[stray rapids]

Are there any good sks replacements in comp

[robust musk]

It does tbh, think it’s almost highest in class

[jade rover]

Kinda is if youre skilled

[stray rapids]

Or is that the end of semi autos

[jade rover]

Sure but even higher

[robust musk]

U will be missed 😔

[robust musk]

People trying AS VAL and AMAX but both don’t live up tbh, just use kilo with range fg and marksman barrel

[minor dragon]

You could use M67 AMAX but that is something most people will not do

[minor dragon]

Its supposed to be that way. High skill, High reward

Nerfing it would just punish good players

[jade rover]

Good idea at a pro tournament yes

[stray rapids]

You have not played against a good sks player before

It is very very broken in the right hands

Literally no counter against a good one

[minor dragon]

Yeah you have to be good. The gun is as good as you make it

[minor dragon]

Except for good movement and aim

[robust musk]

SKS is strong, but so are a lot of guns in comp that aren’t banned tbh

like Krig is still untouched basically in recent leak

[stray rapids]

Sks is probably the most scary weapon to see

[minor dragon]

SKS will be good if you are good. Its trash if you are trash

[robust musk]

Tribe won champs without a designated SKS main

Super strong gun but idk if the ban was needed

Ig Lucas gave everyone ptsd

[stray rapids]

Hm, cordite has really good ttk to 46m

Good is like

375ms to 46m

Maybe usable in comp?

[robust musk]

Nah

[stray rapids]

What do you think is the main factor as to why cbr is used so much

Their builds usually suck

Almost all the time

[robust musk]

It’s versatile with good ttk potential up to 20m, and a fat fat mag

[stray rapids]

How far do they normally use it till

[robust musk]

The gun was decent bsa with easy recoil, can consistently chall to 30 and u can push 40 ig but it’s no where near as consistent

[minor dragon]

Well then why isn't cordite used more?

[robust musk]

Cus cordite is gae

[stray rapids]

Cordite is pretty weak closer ranges

[robust musk]

CBR has AR pen too, helps

[minor wadi]

a good dlq gunsmith?

[stray rapids]

Those ranges where cordite beats competition, ARs come into play

[robust musk]

Especially vs HG users, if u can’t hit their head atleast u get reduced dmg thru the wall with CBR

[minor dragon]

Cordite has same RPM as the P90 and very similar range

[stray rapids]

Oh ye hg possible?

[robust musk]

But no consistent 4 stk in initial range

[stray rapids]

Cordite slaps p90 in range

[robust musk]

Hg40? Gae

[stray rapids]

But gets slapped closer range

😔

I always thought of hg as hvk lite

[stray rapids]

Is pp19 used?

And fenec

[robust musk]

By a small number of people mostly in EU

CBR still better

[stray rapids]

Smh cbr cbr

[minor dragon]

Same with CBR

[robust musk]

Depends on map and player, some entry/support/obj orientated players use it ig

[robust musk]

[stray rapids]

Cbr is much more consistent

Irc yujji tested it

He got around 90% 4 shot consistency first range

But he ain't no comp player

[minor dragon]

In close range you need to hit above stomach to get 4 stk ttk. Same as the cordite

[stray rapids]

I sincerely hope cbr gets murdered so i can step in

[stray rapids]

Cordite requires all shots to hit tho

[minor dragon]

Or i am i blind?

[stray rapids]

Cbr just needs 2

[robust musk]

CBR nerf would be funny

[minor dragon]

True

[stray rapids]

They might murder reload

Strafe is probably just a pinch

[robust musk]

Atm I’m using HVK and kilo, sometimes krig but not really as often as the former 2

[minor dragon]

But CBR undeniably has better recoil

[robust musk]

I don’t use any SMGs

Fennec in my spare time cus best gun

[minor dragon]

Why isn't AGR used more in comps?

[stray rapids]

The only smg i have in my loadout is msmc

[robust musk]

Awkward to use

[stray rapids]

And i don't use🙂

[minor dragon]

Recoil is awkward yes but the rewards for mastering it are huge

Insane mobility with good damage. Plus AR level range with 556 ammo

[gentle forge]

ZRG Build? Got good aim so max mobility will do

[jade rover]

@stray rapids I liked your suggestion that swordfish could be good

It is, just ran this

[cobalt trout]

Asm 10 or ak47 better? (In MP ofc)

[stray rapids]

117 or pk comps

[stray rapids]

Ak

[cobalt trout]

Ak? I thought asm for multiplayer and ak for br

[gentle forge]

Cool thanks

[stray rapids]

Ak is mid in br

Also ak is the best 3 shot ar right now

Asm is on the lower end

[rich arch]

Best EM2 build?

@strange rivettf are those goofy ahh zrg builds in gunsmith 💀

mfs fr using the av mag

literal psychos

[stray rapids]

Agency supp
Tf barrel
Lightweight stok
Firm grip
Mag

[rich arch]

Thx

[stray rapids]

Np🥰

[dusky ibex]

Hiii

Mx9 build pls

[stray rapids]

Integ supp
Agile stock
Lc mag
Infil fg
Firm grip

Np🥰

[rich arch]

meanwhile: "30rnd gud"

[dusky ibex]

Thanks

Who knows when the legendary dingo will be out?

I don't care what you mean

So no one knows

[robust musk]

You’ll find guns with easy recoil are the ones that see the most use in comp cus realistically you can use them to peak potential most

[jade rover]

With skulker 4.08m/s strafe speed

Not saying it’s anything yet but first couple games have been good

[jade rover]

@uneven anchor you down to try this later on? You’ve got good aim and strafe about 🪱

I will anyway just not the gun that suits me

Negative in accuracy 😂

Its swordfish

Not passive

[robust musk]

PK

[vernal nimbus]

Oh

[robust musk]

Ease of use is still a pretty predominant factor in consideration

[rich arch]

the stippled

💀

[robust musk]

Underrated attachment, best

[jade rover]

Why would I care about BSA its swordfish

[rich arch]

I mean you do you

[frigid wind]

people still use this gun?

[rich arch]

Yes

[jolly linden]

Ola

Fast add for a locus and outlaw.. Any suggestions???

[frigid wind]

i'm comfortable with this build

[rich arch]

Is just OK 👍

[jolly linden]

Ill check it out and see if it works for me..

Oh and thank you

[frigid wind]

it's better to make your own loadout rather than copying others

i try out with different attachments

[rich arch]

Agreed but in my case I'd swap a few things

[frigid wind]

ig it's supressor? xD

[rich arch]

And lazer

[jolly linden]

I've been trying for a while.... But every time the adds are too slow

[frigid wind]

rip ads

speed

[jolly linden]

[rich arch]

Find ur confort builds and you'll be fine

Fun gunn

[jolly linden]

Haha will do... Thanks.. Hope i find the right build though

[rich arch]

It takes a whileee but you got this

[jolly linden]

[rich arch]

Here’s my locus build

If you wanna try it out to see if you like it

[strange rivet]

Cringe stopping power

[rich arch]

Shhh

I use without it too

I don’t even use the locus much

[jolly linden]

Ill check it out... Thank you

[rich arch]

Mhm ofc

[jolly linden]

[rich arch]

[teal echo]

Are those unique attachments worth using? How many are there?

[rich arch]

Is it worth doing a gold grind on ARs, LMGs and SMGs for the next lil while?

[rich arch]

Depends on the gun I think

[teal echo]

So which gun has them and which are good?

[rich arch]

Welll what gun class you likeee

[teal echo]

Mainly AR but Sniper for long range

[rich arch]

Ohh

Hmm Idek 😭

What sniper do you like?

[teal echo]

DLQ cos it's the only one I am familiar with

But I can try out others

[rich arch]

Yeah use the signature ammo for it if you keep hitting hit markers

[teal echo]

Maybe for BR, sniper always one shot in MP

[rich arch]

Yeah I guess I don’t play br much I play mp a lot

[teal echo]

Is Krig 6 the best AR currently?

I was told it is and it's serving me well for since I returned

[jade rover]

That Kilo KN HVK

[cunning rapids]

Terrible drh build

[glass rapids]

most of my builds are made for movement

🤦‍♂️

[cunning rapids]

Why movement

[glass rapids]

i don't like cinder blocks

[strange rivet]

Neither are good but the dr h is better

Perk to mono suppressor for a good dr h build

[glass rapids]

i like reloads

i don't like

reloading massive mags

[clear cosmos]

Fmj on nades?

[jade rover]

I almost beat a pro with my CBR FMJ build

The FMJ helps so much

I don’t think most ppl know CBR has AR penetration values so maybe its slept on

[jade rover]

Probably a wall glitch

CBR is the best gun rn no?

[ocean canyon]

Soo did they mean to put this in news???

[feral granite]

Depends if its good or not after the nerf

But currently it's good smg

[elder cairn]

Does someone here have the ak117 "future apollo" and gold camo on it?
Does it remove the animated parts?

[keen gazelle]

idk if the m4 is yours so your trashing his build but the drh seems better as an “overall” type build

good range, fast ads and still using the otm mag

[cunning rapids]

not of those are my builds

[tiny sphinx]

Some1 want to grind camos?

[viscid belfry]

how tf u did it

[unreal gale]

uhh no.

Try your exact same build but swap fmj to disable. You'll do better

[jade rover]

Nah

For hardpoint

[unreal gale]

we're talking about hp

[jade rover]

Yeah

[unreal gale]

I only play hp

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale what is fmj?

[jade rover]

So why not have a CBR that has pen values of an assault rifle with FMJ

When people hide behind cover in hardpoint

[unreal gale]

full metal jacket. A perk that makes increases bullet penetration @tiny sphinx

[jade rover]

Yes

Im aware

[unreal gale]

because it doesn't. And you're not playing at a level where wall bangs are worth it at all.

[jade rover]

It does

First of all

And second of all its not wall bangs

[unreal gale]

check the penetration values

[jade rover]

Its just stuff like boxes and wooden shit

[unreal gale]

that's firing range specific

literally the only map where it works

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale thanks

[jade rover]

No

Terminal for example has the library

[unreal gale]

and unless you actually know wall bang angles, it's a waste of a slot

[unreal gale]

again if you want to wall bang, use a bloody ar

[jade rover]

Bookstore I mean

[unreal gale]

that's what they're for

or use a holger

and spray them up

[latent pike]

What perk makes the LK24 reload so fast from the mystery box?? My character glows orange

[tiny sphinx]

Is krig 6 the best AR

[unreal gale]

don't walk in with a smg and claim that it has wallbang capability

[jade rover]

No I didn’t say that

[unreal gale]

yes

[unreal gale]

I know, but my point is you shouldn't use a smg for that

[jade rover]

I wouldn’t

[unreal gale]

if you find that doing that is super helpful, you should run an AR

[jade rover]

But it helps if they’re doing that

Hows disabled going to help on hardpoint

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale u think large extended mag B the best bec i tried it and i feel comfortable with it

[unreal gale]

and again even if you can actually do that, I strongly recommend you to just make your gun better and beam them instead of shooting through a box to hit them

[jade rover]

If they’re on the point

[unreal gale]

yes

I'll show you my build. Give me 1 second

[jade rover]

You ideally wouldn’t hit whatever they’re headglitching but you can afford more misses

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale how long u play this game?

[tiny sphinx]

Ohhh

[jade rover]

That is stunning btw

[unreal gale]

I don't play anymore, but I played it for about 2 years

[jade rover]

Such a beautiful gun

[tiny sphinx]

I have no mythic

[unreal gale]

thanks ♥️

if you don't have the mythic version

you need a red dot, since the ironsight kinda sucks

[jade rover]

Then KN44 is the best AR imo

[tiny sphinx]

@jade rover Nahhhh

[jade rover]

As those irons are decent

[unreal gale]

so you switch the mag to extended mag b, take off the grip tape and put on a red dot

[unreal gale]

This is one my all time favourites too. But the gun kinda sucks now

[jade rover]

Youre not with the meta then lol

KN44 is top 3 AR rn

[unreal gale]

well it never got buffed, much

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale why is ironsight so important

[unreal gale]

yeah I don't think so. Never seen anyone say that

[jade rover]

🤷‍♂️ it is

[unreal gale]

Could be wrong though since I haven't played for like 3 months

[jade rover]

Widely considered to be

[unreal gale]

it helps you aim

[jade rover]

Yes its only since this season

It got some meaty buffs

[unreal gale]

a bad ironsight will cause you to lose track of your target

and just generally make your aim worse

[tiny sphinx]

How can i see what gives ironsight? @unreal gale

[jade rover]

That sentence doesn’t make sense

Iron sight is the gun as it is

[unreal gale]

? Ironsight just means the sight of the gun without a scope

[jade rover]

You can then choose to add an optic

[unreal gale]

like if you just ads with the gun. That thing is called the ironsight

[jade rover]

@tiny sphinx

The iron sight is the default sight of the gun

[unreal gale]

it's literally a sight, but it's iron.. ha ha ha. Okay bad joke

[tiny sphinx]

I know nothing abt the game

[jade rover]

I mean thats why its called that tbh

[jade rover]

Really?

[unreal gale]

yeah dw.

we all started like that

well, people where this is their first cod

[tiny sphinx]

I play like some weeks

[jade rover]

You’ll pick it up

[unreal gale]

^^

[jade rover]

Probably

Most dont tbh lol

But the basics you will

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale u play 5 finger hud?

[unreal gale]

uhh

[jade rover]

5 finger???

[tiny sphinx]

Yes

[unreal gale]

I play 4 actually. My hud is the basic claw with an extra button for slide cancelling

[tiny sphinx]

I play 5 finger xD

[unreal gale]

(I really have no intention of flexing. I don't play anymore and this is the only picture I have of my hud)

[tiny sphinx]

Ohhh a nuke

[unreal gale]

in top 5k ranked :D

[tiny sphinx]

I never got a nuke

[unreal gale]

if you play some shipment hardpoint public matches, you'll get one sooner or later

[tiny sphinx]

But not in ranked

[unreal gale]

ah. You will get some once you get your mechanical skills, map knowledge and game sense better :D

[tiny sphinx]

Is that good?

[unreal gale]

You don't really need the barrel for the krig. I'd switch it to a red dot.

You also want some more mobility

so I would switch the mag to a regular extended mag b (for faster ads time) and swap the grip tape to a light weight stock

[tiny sphinx]

So the underbarrel is fine?

[unreal gale]

you mean the grip? yeah the grip is fine

I personally prefer a Field Agent grip but that's because I play more passively

[tiny sphinx]

I mean the foregrip

Imma just go copy yours ;3

[unreal gale]

The grip on my gun is the field agent

[tiny sphinx]

Is this fine now

[unreal gale]

I would use extended B, but A is also viable

but otherwise, yeah it's looking great

[tiny sphinx]

@unreal gale there is only large B

[unreal gale]

yeah use that one

the one without fast reload

[tiny sphinx]

Fast reload= less ads?

[unreal gale]

yeah. Fast reload = slow ads

which is fine if you have the firm grip tape, but since you don't have the extra attachment, you want the slow reload mag instead

[tiny sphinx]

Cann i call you?

[unreal gale]

well actually it's up to you. Would you prefer faster reloading and slow ads speed, or faster ads and slow reloading

I'm in a library rn actually

so sorry xD

but just ask me anything you want to know more about

[tiny sphinx]

What should i put away if i want firm grip tape?

[unreal gale]

I'm not a great gunsmither, I play high tier ranked a lot and I've seen what most good players use

[unreal gale]

you can choose to sacrifice mobility and just don't use the stock

if you use BO grip, that's not a bad choice

[tiny sphinx]

But isnt it pretty important?

[unreal gale]

if you use FA grip however, you'll need the extra mobility

[tiny sphinx]

I mean light weight stock

[unreal gale]

really depends on how you play. If you just BO grip, the mobility isn't too bad

definitely not super fast, but it's not enough to make you noticeably slower

[tiny sphinx]

Can i change bo foregrip for light weight stock

[unreal gale]

yeah you could do that too

the foregrip is for recoil

so it makes your gun easier to aim with.

but if you can control the recoil just fine without it, then by all means go ahead

[tiny sphinx]

So I keep it

It has pro and Contra

[unreal gale]

yeah everything has pros and cons. If you could equip like 10 attachments it would be pretty good

[tiny sphinx]

[unreal gale]

but you only have 5 so you gotta pick the ones that are the most important for you

[tiny sphinx]

Imma play some games and adjust but i appreciate you

Thx for the help

[unreal gale]

no worries, let me know how it goes

[tiny sphinx]

I do

[uneven anchor]

i hate sword fish

@unreal gale best side arm? im struggling to decide on shorty, Lcar, renetti

i could just keep a launcher

[rich arch]

Which primary?

[ruby iris]

Lcar

[uneven anchor]

pogin

[viscid belfry]

i would choose renetti bc its fun to use

[uneven anchor]

this good?

[ruby iris]

Elb to 5mw

Hipfire on lcar goes hard

[viscid belfry]

y everyone hipfire

just aim and done

[ruby iris]

Why ads

Takes a few extra frames

[uneven anchor]

because i want to not miss a few extra shots

[ruby iris]

Have you seen lcar hipfire?

With 5mw

[uneven anchor]

Its also looking kinda mid, 83ms firerate

[ruby iris]

Lcar hipfire goes super hard wdym

[viscid belfry]

it has a good hipfire?

[ruby iris]

Tight as shit spread

[ruby iris]

Very

[viscid belfry]

better than sb?

[uneven anchor]

nah id rather aim

[ruby iris]

@uneven anchor

[viscid belfry]

sheesh

[uneven anchor]

it just feels like im not in control

[viscid belfry]

well even with that insane hipfire i wont use it

[ruby iris]

You aint gonna use lcar past like 12m

[uneven anchor]

i aint hipfiring past 5 meters too

[ruby iris]

Ads would be better, but slapping 5mw just in case

You can hipfire half of it's effective range

[uneven anchor]

renetti better

[ruby iris]

I mean

Your choice

[uneven anchor]

the real question is
Fhj, smrs or thumper

[ruby iris]

Pistols arent built like primaries

[ruby iris]

Fhj or thumper

[uneven anchor]

i kinda smacking with fhj ngl

[ruby iris]

Depending on what you're shooting

[uneven anchor]

People

[ruby iris]

Thumper for ppl, fhj for scorestreaks

[uneven anchor]

high leggy got some fhj kill here and there

[uneven anchor]

but its weaker no?

Damn maybe demo expert

this is in SnD btw

[ruby iris]

A lot easier to aim and get kills with

[ruby iris]

Thumper

Just fast switch and tap them

[uneven anchor]

i check tych stats and slight better lethal damage than fhj but way worse bv

[ruby iris]

One shoot straight

The other shoots in an arc

[uneven anchor]

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

I like straigh

[ruby iris]

Use thumper as early frag

Or pocket shotty

If you want pocket sniper use deag

[uneven anchor]

Im holding angles with fhj tho

[ruby iris]

If it's cqc angles, thumper would be better

[uneven anchor]

that one entrance into b from attack on coastal is on lock down

good luck eating fhj

[uneven anchor]

ok ill try

[uneven anchor]

demo expert?

[ruby iris]

Nah, no need

But makes it more consistent, yes

[uneven anchor]

hmmmm, fk it i go loud

Good bye dead silence

[uneven anchor]

[whole moss]

is this good?

[ruby iris]

Use combat stock

That ads is not bussin fr fr ong

[uneven anchor]

cogomi pog

[whole moss]

true

[ruby iris]

And you aint gonna strafe that much on a main ar like fr

[uneven anchor]

ong fr fr on a stack sheeesh

[whole moss]

nah man

this strafe on this gun godly fr

[ruby iris]

3.18 is like

[whole moss]

nah it lying

[ruby iris]

Standard for main ars with mobility stock

But you get worse ads

[whole moss]

no u dont

game lies my dude

[ruby iris]

230 vs 288

[whole moss]

ok true

game doesn't lie ig

[ruby iris]

Similar strafe, worse ads

Would rather go ads speed tbh

Since you mainly headglitch and hold angles with main ars

[zealous hinge]

Ay it’s rice boi

[whole moss]

me when i don't know how to headglitch

[zealous hinge]

@ruby iris dingo worth?

[ruby iris]

Nah

[cosmic vessel]

Guys whats the best KRM hip fire build?

[zealous hinge]

Not even for the zombies nostalgia

[cosmic vessel]

Me: "the Krig is so good!"
Me realising it's getting nerfed

[undone sandal]

minor nerf

[undone sandal]

marauder supp
extlight barrel
nostock
5mw laser
stippled

[rich arch]

Make sense

But i thought it got a huge nerf when people spammed it

[uneven anchor]

@jade rover common as val L

[cosmic vessel]

Found this on the iFerg discord💀

[radiant oyster]

Bruhhh

[jade rover]

Im literally audibly tired and ran out of ammo

I cant speak properly 😵‍💫

@uneven anchor most of the games I did better than you anyway

[austere igloo]

Best char skin to go with dlq dusk chroma

[jade rover]

You didn’t turn up 😦

[austere igloo]

Also welcome to red @jade rover

[uneven anchor]

giga cope

[austere igloo]

Congrats

[radiant oyster]

Nice combo

[austere igloo]

Ikr

[jade rover]

True tho

[rich arch]

I WAS DOWN 0-12! I couldn’t get a kill to save my life but watch how fast I turn the tables and end this tournament game 🤭

[uneven anchor]

I get kills when it counts, like last game

[austere igloo]

Its the only gun that has the teal that matches with her

[uneven anchor]

11 kill momen

[uneven anchor]

also im playing with your bri ish frens now

[radiant oyster]

I'll change the ammo for something else maybe if you want

[jade rover]

What are they saying be my spy

Actually probably dont say anything 😒

[uneven anchor]

well they talked about some guy working at a club

[strange rivet]

No stock/skeleton stock
Extended light barrel/marksman barrel

[rich arch]

I had a build similar to this but with lc

[viscid belfry]

lca

[rich arch]

Its good

[viscid belfry]

not rlly

[strange rivet]

If you really want large cal change rubberized grip

To mono suppressor

[viscid belfry]

lca its useless

[strange rivet]

Rubberized grip on a gun with virtually no recoil

Lca

The mag

[viscid belfry]

large caliber ammo

[lean frost]

Large Calibre Ammo

[pallid ivy]

Extended light barrel with Large caliber mag
Then there is fucking rubberized when gun already has no recoil at all
BEYOND TRASH

[radiant oyster]

What I ferg discord

[nimble spear]

Can someone post a link to that document with all the weapon ttk range stats?

[viscid belfry]

rubber its good but not on bizon

first of all give me ur legendary

[pallid ivy]

Yeah for trash players like you

And only 1 weapon

Which is fennec

[viscid belfry]

ah yes use gran on fennec

lol

[lean frost]

Burst guns except ksp-45:

[pallid ivy]

Ksp doesn't have rubberized

Chicom don't need it

[viscid belfry]

idk y rubber its so bad for ppl like u @pallid ivy

[pallid ivy]

Who tf even uses burst M16 now

[nimble spear]

me

[pallid ivy]

Renetti has better attachment

[nimble spear]

sometimes

[strange rivet]

Handmade grip tape

After we found out recoil attachments are virtually useless

[pallid ivy]

Whatever you said makes no sense, get lost now

[strange rivet]

So I dropped compensator

Been using handmade though

[viscid belfry]

[pallid ivy]

Both handmade grip and compensator is way better than rubberized

By far

[lean frost]

Well
There is the swordfish

[strange rivet]

Basedfish

[viscid belfry]

he is mad bc i use rubber on some guns

[pallid ivy]

Well you don't need it for swordfish tho

[lean frost]

But I guess
That's the only gun

[lean frost]

It's a 4r burst tho
I'd prefer having rubber on it

[pallid ivy]

Just pull down

Waste of attachment

[lean frost]

Can u even control the verticals recoil for bursts

[viscid belfry]

i didnt got mad

[pallid ivy]

Burst weapons doesn't even have any recoil

Recoil resets with every burst

[lean frost]

Stuff like the swordfish do have noticeable verticals recoil
And since the thing is a 4r burst, and u need to hit all 4 shots to 1 burst, I'd just use rubber
It's not like ur losing anything, it's a burst, bsa doesn't matter

then there's the pharo
Which I don't even think rubberized can help that

[pallid ivy]

I use 5 burst swordfish with full mobility build

[lean frost]

[viscid belfry]

still is

[nimble spear]

Yeah I build M16 burst with focus on recoil reduction. I barely notice any spread, but it does kick up slightly within the burst, and I try to minimize that

[lean frost]

Just slap on rubberized
Not worth reducing strafe speed if ur going for some other attachment

[viscid belfry]

ik a insane build without auto attachment

no recoil

[lean frost]

Only rubberized should work for any burst
Except ksp-45 since that doesn't have it
And pharo since that gun
well

[pallid ivy]

I prefer red dot over rubberized for bursts

Since both M16 and swordfish has trash iron sights

For chicom, I use marksman barrel for range

Renetti has better attachment

[lean frost]

I just run both for SF n m16

[undone sandal]

@ruby iris val fmj has 1120m/s bv
not 1350m/s like what comp stats say

so similar bv ranges as krig

[cunning rapids]

@undone sandal yo

[undone sandal]

hi

[cunning rapids]

Is lk any good?

[undone sandal]

for br ya

[cunning rapids]

why not mp?

[runic hornet]

rubberized any good on fennec?

[cunning rapids]

@ruby iris lk build?

[stone trail]

Y'all need a good fennec build I got one

[pallid ivy]

Nope

[cunning rapids]

No

[uneven anchor]

Fennec ranger foregrip kinda bussin

[nimble spear]

Type 25 build?

[uneven anchor]

@lean frost

[ruby iris]

Mono, no stock, ext mag, tac laser, free slot

[cosmic vessel]

Yeah there's an Iferg server

[nimble spear]

thanks

[unreal gale]

For hp, launcher

Fhj

[ruby iris]

Dude plays snd

So thumper?

[cunning rapids]

Well nvm I just made one

[unreal gale]

Uhhh I really don't qualify to answer that question

[ruby iris]

Thumper is nice

No laser

On shorty laser is a must

Due to shit spread

[runic hornet]

chainsaw????

oh gunzo's shit

[austere igloo]

Ppl use shorty?

[ruby iris]

It has 2 shots

It isnt bad in it's prime range

But the prime range is restricting as fuck

[nimble spear]

shorty is the worst gun in the game

[ruby iris]

D13:

[runic hornet]

d13

[nimble spear]

d13 is at least fun as a concept, and can kill people at a distance sometimes

[runic hornet]

if they don't move

[ruby iris]

Also lowkey smrs, havent seen anyone running it since forever

Shorty is good in it's range, you can consistently 1 tap ppl within 10m ads'ed

But like

[worn gale]

Where can i join squad guys

[ruby iris]

It's entire effective range is 10m

[runic hornet]

might as well just rock deagle or something instead of shorty

[nimble spear]

no

[cunning rapids]

Leaks aren’t allowed

[ruby iris]

Wouldnt say it's bad, just niche

[nimble spear]

nothing is consistent about the shorty

[rich arch]

anyone wanna give me their sensitivity share code, im bored and want to try other peoples sens

[worn gale]

Excuse meeee
Where can i join squad

[cunning rapids]

just use the sens ur comfortable with

[worn gale]

@rich arch come private

[rich arch]

i already have a perfect sens, im just bored and want to try others for a little fun

[runic hornet]

definitely the "pistol" i've had the most problems with trying to get platinum

[cunning rapids]

I know this build is probably bad in y’all’s opinion but I’m comfortable with this since it got good ammo and like no recoil.

[cunning rapids]

I struggled with melees

But I finally got it

[runic hornet]

oh congrats

[nimble spear]

if it works it works

[cunning rapids]

I hate shorty

It’s just an off-brand shotgun

[ruby iris]

5.9m 1 tap, 11.8m 2 tap

[nimble spear]

in theory

[ruby iris]

Could use a buff, but it's not unusable

[ruby iris]

Try ranger barrel

[runic hornet]

should've just given the revolver like shotty rounds for fun instead of making the shorty

[cunning rapids]

I had another build with ranger barrel

[lean frost]

Hm
Yes
12 gauge revolver

[runic hornet]

i mean hey it exists

[ruby iris]

It's quite consistent, since you basically hardscope corners with it

[nimble spear]

replace shorty with executioner

[ruby iris]

Hard to not 1 tap

[lean frost]

The one in-game definitely isn't a 12 gauge

[lean frost]

I like using fhj-18
Close enuf

[ruby iris]

I use thumper

[runic hornet]

fair point

[lean frost]

Reason to use it over smrs: it looks cooler
that's it

[cunning rapids]

@ruby iris

[ruby iris]

More ammo, better irons

[lean frost]

Tru
But u need to use one of ur HUD buttons if u want a dot

Without one it's kinda tricky to aim at people

[ruby iris]

The run button

[cunning rapids]

I use hit marker button

[lean frost]

👍

[cunning rapids]

If I’m correct

[ruby iris]

Vid didnt load for me

[cunning rapids]

Damnit

[ruby iris]

Shit data moment

[cunning rapids]

Want me to try again

[lean frost]

I use settings
I dunno whether run is smaller
But if it is then I should probably change it

[cunning rapids]

just the shape

well design I mean

[ruby iris]

Nah, i'll watch later

[cunning rapids]

Okay

It’s just me using both barrels

No different tbh

[rich arch]

What is the best melee ,I should use for the tournament??

I need 1 zombie player VC AND GOOD NOT BAD my squad is getting to wave 50+ DM ME FAST

[runic hornet]

knives or gloves probably

the long melees are slow

[uneven anchor]

#940969972983791626

[stone violet]

50.gs loadout??

[austere igloo]

Hang on

[stone violet]

Ok

[ruby iris]

Mono, elb, light trigger, 10r mag, tac laser

[stone violet]

Thanks

[austere igloo]

[stone violet]

[rich arch]

GRASS

I did it I got diamond

[ruby iris]

Congrats

[rich arch]

Yeah it took like a day for diamond

[ruby iris]

You could no life it and get it in 4 hours

[rich arch]

Idk what to do for tournament camo so imma do NA-45 LMFAO

[rich arch]

Ehh

[nimble spear]

That was my first diamond, on my favorite sniper

[ruby iris]

2 minutes a match, 30 matches an hour

120 matches in 4 hours

[rich arch]

Yeaa I love the sniper

Imma name it NA-45 cuz like why not

[ruby iris]

Wouldnt recommend tho

Burn out real quick

[rich arch]

Yeahhh

[nimble spear]

Yeah I burnt out for a bit after nolifing the damascus grind

got it tho 🎉

[rich arch]

Do you know how many matches it will take to master a weapon if it’s already at diamond

[austere igloo]

Noice

[austere igloo]

Idk

[nimble spear]

depends on how far along the mastery bar is. Takes a long time I know that

[austere igloo]

U hv to get it to 3500pts

[rich arch]

Yeah Ik

I did it with the spr

But I forgot how long that took

[austere igloo]

I grinded m4 back then I got it mastered before i even got diamond on it

[rich arch]

Niceee

[rich arch]

coool

Imma name my koshka

[austere igloo]

What do u plan to rename it?

[rich arch]

NA-45

[austere igloo]

No u shld name it “miraclegun”

As a reference to its legendary blueprint

“Wundergewehr”

[austere igloo]

It means “miracle rifle” in german

[boreal owl]

Show

I need to see the blueprint

[nimble spear]

he may need to see the blueprint

[boreal owl]

@austere igloo

Since when koshka have leggy

[undone sandal]

since release

[boreal owl]

Fr

I wanna see it

[undone sandal]

just look at arsenal

its there

[boreal owl]

can’t even find shit there

I’ll try ig

[austere igloo]

Bruh

It was available back in S4 2022

[cunning rapids]

@boreal owl

[austere igloo]

Wirh samantha maxis in it

Samantha maxis with koshka legendary wundergewehr

[cunning rapids]

It’s a decent legendary

[austere igloo]

I dare say the koshka leggy is bttr than dlq advanced artillery

[boreal owl]

Doesn’t look like wunderwaffen to me but ok

[austere igloo]

Wundergewehr*

[boreal owl]

Still cool

[boreal owl]

Miracle weapon and miracle rifle
I can’t tell the dif

[rich arch]

I think more people will be pissed off if I name it NA-45

[boreal owl]

The hand looks idk

Weird ass for zombie

[austere igloo]

[austere igloo]

I mean it does come with samantha maxis so i can see where they r coming from

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris slug shorty or pellet shorty

[boreal owl]

Ik it’s cod zombie theme

[uneven anchor]

[boreal owl]

But the hand is just not it

[austere igloo]

That was the intention

[austere igloo]

Why not?

[boreal owl]

Cuz it’s not

[austere igloo]

To me its perfectly fitting for zombies vibe

[austere igloo]

It…is…?

Eh, whateffs, i dont use koshka for the most part anyway

[ruby iris]

Pellet

[austere igloo]

Prolly wont use it until i get diamond on dlq

[boreal owl]

Like why putting a zombie hand on it when you have to use it

can’t even hold shit normally

[cunning rapids]

Go grind

[uneven anchor]

poggus

[austere igloo]

Bcoz its part of the theme…?

Its not like the hand is even detrimental to ur aiming dude

[cunning rapids]

Cbr mythic , hvk - toxic blueprint and the koshka are similar

[boreal owl]

The gun itself contains zombie theme

It’s just not looking cool

[austere igloo]

It does to me, but whateffs

Each to their own

[cunning rapids]

Andd?

[austere igloo]

Hvk toxic just looks lazy imo

[cunning rapids]

Some people like zombie theme stuff

[austere igloo]

Its like they didnt even try for hvk toxic…just slap on a bunch of dark green colors & call it toxic

[boreal owl]

Like if you use it with german zombie then yeah that hand would fits perfectly but like

Other ops

It’s just nah

[austere igloo]

German zombie doesnt even match with that

& besides german zombie has his own gun

[boreal owl]

Ik

Bruh

[old fern]

Anyone wanna do some search and destroy? I’m new to the game, must have mic

[boreal owl]

Still not the vibe

[austere igloo]

Seriously?…thats the best u could do with the gun?

Like…this feels so underwhelming

A brighter green wouldve sufficed

& a little animation

But nah, the designers too lazy

[uneven anchor]

striker foregrip momen

[boreal owl]

No bio hazard sign also

[austere igloo]

Thats the default attachments for this blueprint

[boreal owl]

Sucks

[austere igloo]

Exactly

Lazy-ass design

This one isnt much bttr but at least theres animation to it

[boreal owl]

Could just make it like pdw toxic waste

[austere igloo]

Thats a meh leggy tho

[boreal owl]

Still toxic

Same topic

[austere igloo]

No diff irons

[rich arch]

why is gameloop the only way to play codm without getting banned

[austere igloo]

Same as the base irons

[austere igloo]

U ask me lol

[rich arch]

mf

bruh ok

[austere igloo]

How tf would I know?

Im not a dev of the game

[rich arch]

ima research brb

[nimble spear]

to avoid bypass of their protection system

[austere igloo]

Besides playing on phone is the true exp for codm, dont @ me

[boreal owl]

They just support only gameloop

Obv

[nimble spear]

I guess on other emulators, you could make it look like you're actually on a phone

But gameloop always reports you as using an external controller so you get different matchmaking

With either other gameloopers or people who hooked up a bluetooth controller to their device

[uneven anchor]

@ruby iris mw11 hav 3stk

[rich arch]

so u go up against pc players correct?

[uneven anchor]

like whole body

hmmge

[austere igloo]

They couldve done so much bttr with the irons

[nimble spear]

either pc or people who have a controller for their phone

[austere igloo]

But nah they chose to be lazy

[nimble spear]

but you won't see people who are swiping their screen

[rich arch]

wait wait if u hook up keyboard and mouse dont u still go up against mobile players?

[peak brook]

No, only pc users. Controller users are seperate

[boreal owl]

I have qxr secret santa
Good skin on bad gun

[austere igloo]

[peak brook]

You can hook up keyboard to phone. You'll get banned

[rich arch]

very high recoil fr

[boreal owl]

Atleast I have a leggy

[nimble spear]

wut