codm-gunsmith-help

[limpid sun]

[lament geyser]

Thinking of buying this is it just luck from these type of crates

[rich arch]

It’s all luck

I got the main reward in first 10

I have more luck with crates than draws

[lament geyser]

That sucks really like the ak17

Kinder reminds me of that weapon from ghost forgot the name of it but it looks like that

[rich arch]

If you have ground forces, you can get 50% off 10 crate pulls

But only 3 times a month

[lament geyser]

Dam Aight thanks

[rich arch]

This crate is super expensive

No prob

Lmao the bot cant even make a normal build

Wtf is this

I can’t read that

The bot gave that😭

[strange rivet]

i know it uses the 15r fmj mag

i also know it uses the quick response barrel, skeleton stock, and tac laser

i just don't know what the grip tape is

[strange rivet]

which bot

gunsmith bot here?

[rich arch]

Yeah lmaooo

[rich arch]

Nah pther bot

Gran grip

Laser

[strange rivet]

if that's granulated, then change the 15r mag to the large extended mag B

the one that adds 15 rounds

[bold ether]

Is this weapon worth it?

[dapper laurel]

Sure. The kill animation is cute.

[bold ether]

@dapper laurel it’s a shotgun right?

[dapper laurel]

No, a sniper rifle.

[bold ether]

@dapper laurel Oo

[dapper laurel]

Actually a marksmen rifle.

[bold ether]

@dapper laurel I dont like a rifle man

[dapper laurel]

There’s few shotguns so you have to wait a while.

[bold ether]

🥹

[rich arch]

If you use spr, yes. If you don’t, no

[bold ether]

@rich arch Ty for the advice

[rich arch]

No way

[quaint token]

Anyone got some recommendations?

I miss using ppsh

[ruby iris]

Light supp, banner heavy, no stock, tac laser, sturdy tape

[west wyvern]

This the best?

I’m grinding for wild fire and gold

[brisk rune]

Swordfish setups?

[fast grotto]

[rich arch]

Yall think I can get it with 8k cp

[ruby iris]

Nah

[rich arch]

Rly

Nvm then

[uneven anchor]

ok you guys are gonna hate me but.. from the person that brought to you full range CBR i present..

full bsa recoil control kilo 141

[ruby iris]

Do full bsa swordfish or u gae

[uneven anchor]

HOLY

sword fish 76+% bsa

[viscid belfry]

1mw laser ew

[viscid belfry]

rip ads

[uneven anchor]

@viscid belfry not that bad, have you used the kilo with the drum mag? Its 1/6th ish of that

[viscid belfry]

@uneven anchor 🫂@viscid belfry

[uneven anchor]

[viscid belfry]

[uneven anchor]

the real rip is the strafe speed on that thing

[viscid belfry]

also the mag tho

[halcyon hawk]

can someone tell me if my gunsmith for m13 is good?

[lost relic]

Rubberized to granu for the extra bsa. Pull down for recoil control.

[halcyon hawk]

alr thanks

[cunning rapids]

@ruby iris ricey

u got an outlaw build

[ruby iris]

Hi

[cunning rapids]

I’m not really liking my current

[ruby iris]

Tac supp, memorial cowboy, combat, stipple, 9r/soh

[cunning rapids]

ugh

That’s literally my build

[ruby iris]

Cope then ig

Or swap to xpr

[cunning rapids]

but wtv

[cunning rapids]

I hate it

[ruby iris]

It's very fast

And quite consistent

[cunning rapids]

I hate having to always ads in and out for xpr

Since it’s a auto sniper rifle

[ruby iris]

Use it like the outlaw

Quickscope it

[cunning rapids]

I can’t quick scope that good

If anything i crouch when I try

[split sierra]

Renetti loadout please

[austere igloo]

Hows this?

[ruby iris]

Compensator, 5mw, ext mag, handmade tape, free slot

[austere igloo]

Is this ok???

[split sierra]

Thanks m8

[ruby iris]

Light supp if halberd

[ocean estuary]

Call this my tenderizer u wont regret trying it

[ruby iris]

[ruby iris]

[austere igloo]

Errr ok

[frail lotus]

Krig?

[uneven anchor]

do you guys have melee stats? like raise and drop times?

[viscid belfry]

rds to firm grip and its fine

mag to fast ext mag b

and barrel to ext/taskforce barrel

[modern zodiac]

Hello

[uneven anchor]

what do you want

[modern zodiac]

Nothing

[uneven anchor]

oh ok

[austere igloo]

no default krig iron sight is bad

rds is a must

firm grip isnt really needed since base krig ads speed is fine

[cunning rapids]

how is rds a must

it’s literally fine without a optic

[austere igloo]

is that a serioius question?

[austere igloo]

no its not holy shit

[cunning rapids]

ur opinion

[austere igloo]

is fact

krigs default iron is garbage yo

[nimble spear]

Everything is fine without an optic

[austere igloo]

what r u on?

[nimble spear]

I generally see it that if you're using a slot on an optic, you're wasting the slot where you could've spent it on something that actually improves the stats

[austere igloo]

as if the stats mean anything at all

u know u cant 100% rely on those stats right?

[nimble spear]

You can git gud to get around an un-optimal sight. You can't outperform the numbers

[austere igloo]

dont gimme that 'skill issue' bullcrap with it

[nimble spear]

Which stats do you refer to? If you mean the bars on the right then I get you

But this on the other hand? this is reality

[cunning rapids]

Krig is fine without an optic

literally it’s just a iron sight

[austere igloo]

i dont know what kind of delusion ur living in

how can anyone think the base krig optic is fine when it literally isn't

stop lying to urself

[nimble spear]

Only iron I remember finding infurating among ARs is the LK24, but that gun is the definition of mid so who cares

[austere igloo]

even if someone is skilled enough to use the krig w/o an optic it doesn't change the fact that base krig iron is a piece of crap

[austere igloo]

lk irons aint bad wdym

lk24 irons is still better than the krigs

[nimble spear]

lol

[cunning rapids]

People barely use lk

literally never see anyone use it

[nimble spear]

for good reason

[austere igloo]

lk needs a damage multiplier buff fr

its been forgotten for like how long already

[nimble spear]

Agreed

[austere igloo]

kn44 as well

kn44 just needs a slight buff to its dmg multiplier & this shit would be formidable in ranked

[nimble spear]

Yeah that one's just a step below being goated

[austere igloo]

just a slight tweak to it would make kn44 a beast

it used to be my fav ar

[nimble spear]

One of my favorite ARs, along with the AK47 and now the EM2

[austere igloo]

my fav ar now is icr1

[nimble spear]

Oh yeah that was my first go-to

with the retro nuclear skin

[austere igloo]

i hv the icr1 knock out lel

it doesnt look the best, but i like the kill effect

[uneven anchor]

krig irons arent thaat bad

[austere igloo]

Yes they r

[uneven anchor]

the only real bad irons are LAPA holy please abolish that thing

[austere igloo]

Even em2’s irons r abt as bad

[uneven anchor]

wtf i like EM2 irons

[austere igloo]

Lapa & krig irons r equally bad

[uneven anchor]

AIN no way bro

[austere igloo]

The gilded hammer i mean

[uneven anchor]

ur trippin

[austere igloo]

Gilded hanmer em2 irons is ewww

The em2 default irons is bttr

[uneven anchor]

wha em2 gilded and default have like the same sight

[austere igloo]

No lmao the em2 gilded hammer has a more obstrusive iron

[austere igloo]

Yes they r bro im not trippin

Im stating facts

[uneven anchor]

mega skill issue

[austere igloo]

Default em2 iron is bttr than gilded hammer em2 iron

[austere igloo]

Yea u have it not me

Skill does not correspond to bad irons

[uneven anchor]

how do i have the skill issue when you need a sight on a krig ain no way bro

[austere igloo]

Bcoz its bad

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

Just bcoz u dont need optic on krig doesnt change that krig iron is bad

[uneven anchor]

i mean sure its worse than average but its still fine

[austere igloo]

Being able to use a gun w/o an optic doesnt make the gun better

[uneven anchor]

yes jt does

[austere igloo]

It just means u r a bttr player

[austere igloo]

No it doesnt HOLY SH

[nimble spear]

well at least he admits it

[uneven anchor]

BRO

[austere igloo]

BRO

[uneven anchor]

an extra attachment?? Hello??

[austere igloo]

Not even

[uneven anchor]

Infinitely better gun than forcing an optic

[austere igloo]

Its literally diff attachment

[austere igloo]

Hell no

Its like saying in chess i can play w/o using queens & bishops & just the pawns, it doesnt mean the pawns r better than queen & bishops

[uneven anchor]

unless aim shake is a problem or using the lapa or you have a free slot you should never use an optic

[austere igloo]

It just means u play bttr

[uneven anchor]

bro you cant deny that a 5th attachment makes the gun better

[austere igloo]

U r making it sound like “bcoz i use krig w/o an optic means the krig irons is good”

U dont see the flaw in that?

[uneven anchor]

i mean its kinda true

[nimble spear]

The krig irons are fine.

[austere igloo]

Wow…

[uneven anchor]

krig is better when you can invest more attachments in it

[austere igloo]

This guy…

U know what…thats it

[uneven anchor]

optic is a wasted attachment rip bozo

[austere igloo]

Im done discussing abt this

[austere igloo]

Keep telling urself that

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

U can lie to me but u cant lie to urself

[nimble spear]

They're not "good" like AK/KN good, but they're fine. Not worth using up an attachment slot to replace.

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

@nimble spear exactly, since when did an optic boost weapon stats?

[austere igloo]

Im done tryna convince u

Lets agree to disagree

[nimble spear]

k

[uneven anchor]

You aint convincing anyone

[austere igloo]

Anybody uses m16 for ranked

[uneven anchor]

Bro what is this anology

[austere igloo]

That is exactly what ur telling me

[nimble spear]

bruh I missed that one

[stray rapids]

What happen here

[uneven anchor]

its actually like saying you dont need a queen because youd rather trade the queen for a clearer board

mf cant see

[austere igloo]

not even omfg

[austere igloo]

ironicccc

[uneven anchor]

BRUH

huge brain anology

[austere igloo]

[uneven anchor]

[austere igloo]

u know what\

case closed

[lusty obsidian]

What’s the best mode + and/or map to grind Diamond Camos on? Specifically Snipers

[austere igloo]

but setting aside this nonsensical argument

does anyone use m16 for ranked

[lusty obsidian]

Right now I’m running Frontline on Crossfire

[lusty obsidian]

I do. One of my favorite guns right now.

[uneven anchor]

free for all shipment @lusty obsidian

[lusty obsidian]

For snipers??

[nimble spear]

I got the M16 mastered so I had to run it in ranked

[uneven anchor]

if you’re good enough to land 10 kills yeah its good

[nimble spear]

whoops wrong reply, but you know who it was

[uneven anchor]

i grinded my sniper off of free shipment

[uneven anchor]

is that burst or auto?

[nimble spear]

burst

although I have used it auto too.

[uneven anchor]

ah, nice

[nimble spear]

I like it in burst because that gives it a cool identity among the guns. In wild fire it feels like a dollar store Krig 6

[uneven anchor]

i think burst is better too, it was buffed i think

[stone violet]

Codm is to sweaty

[nimble spear]

sometimes it can be

[austere igloo]

i use m16 in auto

actually feels asmr-esque

the firing sound

but the burst fire aint bad either

[atomic nimbus]

Can anyone recommend me a fast ads locus loadout?

[uneven anchor]

depends

can you consistently hit upper chest?

because if not then you’ll need higher damage mag and that slows ADS

[atomic nimbus]

Ye I'm fine with it

10 ammo mag or 12ammo mag better

[uneven anchor]

if thats the case than this all you need

5th attachment can be the 10 round mag because it doesnt reduce ads speed

[nimble spear]

tac laser

[uneven anchor]

he did say fast ads speed so

tac lazer does that

[nimble spear]

true, but imo it aint worth it.

[uneven anchor]

not worth if you’re hard scoping

but i think hes the type of guy to do the quicky

[nimble spear]

I tend to like the ability to excel with both. I replace tac laser with the -range suppressor, and then run all the ADS stuff on the other attachments

Although sometimes I'll have an alt build saved with the laser for when I straight up only want to quickscope

[uneven anchor]

id rather be able to aim back as fast as i can to land the next shot in case i miss

[austere igloo]

does anybody use m4lmg

for br?

[nimble spear]

no.

[austere igloo]

sad

[uneven anchor]

but then again i have skill issue with snipers

[austere igloo]

m4lmg is actually good

[nimble spear]

Well maybe someone does, but I don't like it.

[austere igloo]

ul736 is also underrated

[nimble spear]

ok now THAT I can agree on.

[austere igloo]

aft the huge ads buff and recoil buff to ul its now one of the better lmgs

only issue is the base mag size of ul

[nimble spear]

Yeah gotta use the big mag attachment

[austere igloo]

& the bsa of ul

not really good for beaming cross map sadly

but midrange wise it can be deadly

[nimble spear]

beamability is good to have

[young shale]

owc stopping doesnt really cut out that much ads

but ok

[austere igloo]

i know m16 auto isnt that good anymore but i just destroyed a lobby that was using cbr4 & krigs

in ranked

and it was in express lel

[stray rapids]

I actually fucking hate Shotguns in br

[austere igloo]

idk which bright guy decided to pick express but hey...if it works it works right?

[austere igloo]

too op?

[uneven anchor]

UL dmg in BR is quite high

[young shale]

i tried echo in br

[stray rapids]

They're the most annoying users

[young shale]

the dmg is better but teh fire rate is trash af so i changing to jak

[stray rapids]

They shoot u once then run away

[young shale]

gurantee win :)))

[young shale]

br0ken bel like

[uneven anchor]

Jak still good after nerf

[young shale]

auto shotgun user are worse

[lusty obsidian]

What’s the ideal amount of mobility to try to have if you’re using AR’s?

[austere igloo]

fr

[young shale]

shotgun gurantee win

[young shale]

decent amt

[stray rapids]

From experience the 1 shot ones are worst

[austere igloo]

the krm users

annoying af

[stray rapids]

By and hs0

[young shale]

people be like br0ken skill trashing people

[austere igloo]

hs0 not so much i deal w krm users a lot...annoying lil' pricks

[lusty obsidian]

Shoot a number range

[austere igloo]

esp alcatraz

alcatraz is shotgun galore

[nimble spear]

most important handling stat is ADS time

[young shale]

uhh just look at the ar builds here

ar doesnt really need much ads

[nimble spear]

I like ADS

[young shale]

ok

[nimble spear]

ok

[austere igloo]

to me accuracy i prioritize more for ar

[young shale]

ok

[lean frost]

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell "mobility" means

[young shale]

acc is better

[austere igloo]

ads isnt that impt for me for ars

[stray rapids]

The past 2 days all I've been killed by is shotguns

[uneven anchor]

Bsa is way better for AR

[austere igloo]

how fast u r lel

[nimble spear]

Yeah ADS and BSA

[uneven anchor]

I dont think range matters that much

[young shale]

could be me😏

[lean frost]

Like
The bar stat
Or the actual mobility stats

[nimble spear]

Range depends on the gun's base

[austere igloo]

bar stat

[stray rapids]

Not the auto ones though

Because that one actually requires you to get into actual fights

[uneven anchor]

Well what AR we talkin every AR is different

[austere igloo]

speaking of which...i killed a by user just now with a point blank frag lmfao

[lean frost]

Let's talk about Val.

[uneven anchor]

oh no VAL

[stray rapids]

That mf was running around a large rock

[austere igloo]

i was supposed to switch to my smg but instead i threw the frag

and he got baited lmao

[uneven anchor]

top 3 aim shakers, val for sure

[nimble spear]

SO many people were using val when it was fresh

[austere igloo]

the frag killed the by user

[stray rapids]

Everytime i see him i shoot him, but he'd do like 100 damage

[austere igloo]

even with kinetic armor stack?

[stray rapids]

Ofc

[austere igloo]

yea theyre the worst

[lean frost]

Daddy m16

[stray rapids]

Shotguns deal over 300 damage now

No more

[austere igloo]

even the leggy m16 has aimshake

[stray rapids]

M16 shake buffed

[austere igloo]

m4 too

[stray rapids]

Kilo

[lean frost]

there goes my whole comment out the window

[austere igloo]

m4 aimshake i think has it the worst among ars

[stray rapids]

Try base kilo

[austere igloo]

base kilo is worse?

[lean frost]

starter AR
Has one of the worst aimshakes

[austere igloo]

oh god

[stray rapids]

Idk, but it's very very bad

[uneven anchor]

0 aim shake kilo trust

[austere igloo]

whyy why they do tis

[lean frost]

Dingo>>>>>>>Every other gun

[nimble spear]

I do like that they at least buffed the M4 a bit at one point

[ruby iris]

Oden

[austere igloo]

nah oden doesnt hv that much

u forgot xylith sks

[stray rapids]

Oden had alot

[uneven anchor]

meh odens kinda manageable, it’s just recoil

[lean frost]

use compensator instead of gran for even less recoil and aimshake

[stray rapids]

But i heard smth about it being buffed

Not sure

[austere igloo]

it did

[uneven anchor]

rip BSA i guess

[nimble spear]

What are your thoughts on running an optic on the krig 6? 🙃

[uneven anchor]

LINUX

dont do it

[stray rapids]

Quite normal on base krig

[austere igloo]

didnt i say?? case closed?

[lean frost]

Kilo has great base bsa
And u have marksman, ranger, steady and Owc tac

Doubt it's gonna be bad

[stray rapids]

It's a wasted attachment ofc

[austere igloo]

recoil will kick in tho

esp close to ammo expended

[uneven anchor]

it controls enough recoil for me personally while also maintaining high bsa. Perfect beamer

[nimble spear]

I don't get the kilo hype

[austere igloo]

meanwhile m13 be like: step aside kilo i got this

[uneven anchor]

m13

[lean frost]

proceeds to miss every shot by half q inch cuz horizontal recoil

[austere igloo]

m13 used to be broken but now it got nerfed

[austere igloo]

rip

meanwhile everyone sleeping on the hvk

[uneven anchor]

M13 sucks, the theoretical 4stk is overhyped that thing is heavy, inaccurate and eats ammo

[austere igloo]

hvk w stopping power >> kilo imo

[austere igloo]

ak117 has similar traits

[stray rapids]

Build it as a flex

[lean frost]

Dingo>

[stray rapids]

You get one of the fastest ARs

Good range for a flex

[uneven anchor]

HEY dont diss ak117, its perfect the way it is

[austere igloo]

no its one step away from perfection

[stray rapids]

I don't feel m13 and ak117 should be direct rivals tho

[austere igloo]

it has to be, ak117 why must u hv random recoil

[stray rapids]

M13 is more a flex ar now

Ak117 is more towards main

[austere igloo]

yet so few use it

if ak117 didnt hv the rng recoil id use it more

[stray rapids]

Nah random recoil is a very small thing, almost no bearing on how good it is

[uneven anchor]

cant control horizonti on ak117, sounds like another skill issue

[stray rapids]

Just the consistency of its good performance

[austere igloo]

and that thing eats ammo like a truck

[stray rapids]

What build u use

[nimble spear]

wait, is the recoil really random? or is it just bsa?

[stray rapids]

It's random

But the magnitude of horizontal is very very low

Just pulling down does the trick

[uneven anchor]

Here she is

[nimble spear]

yo you're right

[stray rapids]

Change granulated to ext light

[austere igloo]

does it help tho

[nimble spear]

keep reloading the weapon comparison chart and the recoil plot keeps shifting

[stray rapids]

i think so

[uneven anchor]

why it performs good enough

[lean frost]

i love how codm took the time to make the no stock gold but not the mag or that little underbarrel grill thing
Idk the name

[uneven anchor]

better range dmg than CBR while near exact firerate

[lean frost]

Atleast it's not ak-47 gold which barely covers anything

[uneven anchor]

RIGHT? Gold should cover the whole gun just like diamond

[stray rapids]

Helps a little with horizontal

6%

[young shale]

shloonga bonga

[austere igloo]

Good to go?

[stray rapids]

Yea

[austere igloo]

Alright then

[weak zenith]

Good M13 range loadout

[lean frost]

no

no

[young shale]

yeSIrRRrrr

[young shale]

best m13 loadies of all time

[lean frost]

worst*

^ yes ik u were being sarcastic

[lean frost]

RTC heavy long barrel
No stock
Owc tac
.300 RTC double stack
Flash guard
Fixed

[young shale]

flash gurad to garn

gran

[near zenith]

Wtf am i watching

[lean frost]

I like flash guard better but most people prefer gran

[young shale]

smol boi

[lean frost]

That's not good for range either

[young shale]

its build for aggro so

[lean frost]

Just swap out that miscule barrel for a average size barrel
Like the heavy long

[near zenith]

Bro what

[lean frost]

the dude mentioned long range
I'd like to see u beat anything at long range with that

[near zenith]

Ez

[young shale]

m13 is also ok for aggro

[near zenith]

I dont use m13 anymore

Only snipers in my loadout

[young shale]

sniper main

[near zenith]

And krig pp and switch

[lean frost]

Mono supp
Gran
No stock
Owc tac
Ext mag B
Or
Flash guard/gran
Heavy long
No stock
.300 RTC double stack
Owc tac
done
fixed

[near zenith]

None

Why u obsessed with heavy lojg

[lean frost]

To hit anything over 20 metres

Unless u just want a SMG then use mini barrel

[near zenith]

I would just use smg if its beyond 20m

[lean frost]

wait
You'd use SMG for that range?

[near zenith]

But idk i dont use smg anymore i only use sniper so dont ask me

[lean frost]

"beyond 20m"
i don't get what ur trying to say

[near zenith]

I barely use ar and smg

[lean frost]

why r u arguing about a AR then

heavy barrel> mini barrel

end of argument

[near zenith]

Sure

[young shale]

i should be sniper main but idk if i really hv the aim skill

[lean frost]

Use by15 slugs instead

[young shale]

yessir

[pastel finch]

By15 with slugs requires more skill than snipers though

@lean frost m13 is best for mid range to close range fights

Most people who use that build with mini barrel are aggressive players so that build fits their playstyle

Most of their fights will be in close to mid range

[ruby iris]

[lean frost]

the other dude specified long range
Mini barrel isn't gonna do well for that

gud luck killing anything over 20 metres

[ruby iris]

Dont bother with her

She aint gonna listen

[lean frost]

nice

[pastel finch]

M13 irons aren’t great for long range to begin with tbh

And most of your fights will be around mid range in mp anyways

[weak zenith]

Ima make a good close to mid range m13 loadout rq

[lean frost]

I thought 20m was mid range but maybe i shouldn't bother

[ruby iris]

Speaking from experience btw

[lean frost]

even better

[ruby iris]

20 is close

Mid is 20-40

Long is 40+

[lean frost]

feel like this build would actually do better then a mini barrel build

[undone sandal]

nah

too slow

[lean frost]

It's not good i know that, but for range it'd do better then a mini barrel build

[undone sandal]

if ur gonna use heavy long then only heavy long

don't even add mono

[lean frost]

that build has double stack, mono and heavy barrel
breh

[undone sandal]

you also forgot that its mono + doublestack
in short double suppression

[lean frost]

I'm not defending the build, it's bad, I'm just saying it'll probably fare better then this at long range

[undone sandal]

long range ye

but most of your gunfights are close-mid

no point

[pastel finch]

Man you’re not gonna sit on a head glitch like a sniper

[stray rapids]

Is based wrong this time?

[pastel finch]

There’s no point for you to use it long range

[ruby iris]

I use mono + 60r

[stray rapids]

So far i agree but don't have the context

[ruby iris]

Mini barrel good for long range passive m13

[rich arch]

I don't even use suppressor with my weapons

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

Mini barrel good for long range?!

[weak zenith]

I got 0 recoil build

[pastel finch]

I should switch out the laser on my cbr build

[rich arch]

[lean frost]

just like mac-10 is best Marksman, ye

[lean frost]

Why double stack and mono

[rich arch]

Laser is fine

[stray rapids]

Ah they talking about m13 ranged build

[ruby iris]

Typical based tbh
Bsa doesnt matter on slugs

Uses gran

[lean frost]

and that build is gonna nuke strafe

[weak zenith]

Cause I got slots for it and scopes are too slow

[lean frost]

FMJ on a AR
Oh god

[undone sandal]

why not lol

ar has medium pen

[weak zenith]

That's what I'm saying

[lean frost]

Just use the normal M13 builds

[weak zenith]

It works tho

[undone sandal]

i still think ur build is bad

just saying fmj works on ars

unlike most smgs (excluding cbr and agr)

[stray rapids]

It works

But it's kinda dum tbh

We don't have 200 rounds to spray into a wall

[lean frost]

Can't argue with that, With M13 fmj would probably hold up well, But M13 dumps ammo quite quick so you'll have to reload often

but the mono+40r+heavy barrel is my main issue
Just why

[weak zenith]

Ima probably swap fmj cause it's more of shredder

[lean frost]

Why do u need double suppression
and why do u need +85% or whatever amount of ranges those give

[undone sandal]

im fine with heavy + doublestack
just not mono + doublestack

[weak zenith]

Mono is problem?

[ruby iris]

Mono + heavy long

[undone sandal]

no

[ruby iris]

[lean frost]

no
Mono+40r is the problem

[weak zenith]

So swap mono

[ruby iris]

It's nice in br

[undone sandal]

as stupid as that sounds id unironically use it

[stray rapids]

You say u main br right

[lean frost]

ther

[ruby iris]

Yes, cuz mp is just hell in vng

[stray rapids]

How do u fight a shotgun without using a shotgun

Flex ak117 does not hold well

[lean frost]

akimbo fennec.

[ruby iris]

Fastest rage quit in the west

[stray rapids]

Rn I'm thinking fennec

[undone sandal]

only two range drops that are important
0-35.2-56

[uneven anchor]

did they remove the tossing upward flip reload animation for the dual mag on m13?

[undone sandal]

yes

[uneven anchor]

WHAT

[lean frost]

yes

[ruby iris]

It's dumb

[uneven anchor]

dude thats it, m13 is pure garbage

[lean frost]

Activision decided practically was more important then coolness
For once

[stray rapids]

I don't like the new pk sounds

[stray rapids]

I suspect its making ne screw up

[lean frost]

casually adds new sounds and animations which nuke optimization with the same update

[undone sandal]

mythic m13 inspection be like

[weak zenith]

Did I fix loadout?

[undone sandal]

why u adding recoil control attachments on m13

[lean frost]

just use the normal M13 builds

[ruby iris]

It should have a custom quick melee

[lean frost]

It's not hard to control m13's recoil

[uneven anchor]

or just dont M13, it sucks

[undone sandal]

bro casually waits for inspection to finish only to get knifed

[stray rapids]

No.

Amazing as flex

[ruby iris]

Sucky sucky fucky fucky

[stray rapids]

@undone sandal play

I wanna showcase power of m13 flex

[undone sandal]

i can play

[stray rapids]

Oge

[undone sandal]

Fuck customs

[stray rapids]

Huh

?!

[undone sandal]

[uneven anchor]

m13 believers..

[stray rapids]

No customs then

Private match

[undone sandal]

Zamn

he got me

[stray rapids]

No but fr if u build it as a flex its top tier

[lean frost]

tell me one AR with quicker rpm then m13

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

tell me one AR which can be turned into a literal smg and a normal mid-long range AR

[uneven anchor]

uh, 117

[undone sandal]

wrong

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

how

[ruby iris]

117 is 770

M13 is 880

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

and? Just a hundred less

[ruby iris]

Man didnt read the question

[stray rapids]

Tell me one gun with 4m strafe and over 40m effective range

[lean frost]

just?
bro give it to the oden if u think it's just 100

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

just 0.1s slower

[lean frost]

AGR 556

[stray rapids]

totally as rare as i make it out to be

[lean frost]

leaves

[stray rapids]

Cordite can too

I think it does 46m

[undone sandal]

where are the enemies

[lean frost]

Cordite has over 4m/s fr?

[stray rapids]

Wait i haven't invited yet

[uneven anchor]

m13 fanatatics

[ruby iris]

m13 non-believer

[undone sandal]

imagine not being able to control m13 recoil

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

Heavy ✅ Innacurate ✅ Mediocre ✅

[stray rapids]

Witness the power of cordite

[weak zenith]

What's inaccurate?

[uneven anchor]

low range ✅ eats bullets ✅

[ruby iris]

[undone sandal]

skill issue bro

[ruby iris]

How is m13 slow?

[uneven anchor]

gun issue bro

[weak zenith]

Yo what's a good gun

I have like 100 purple gun xp cards

[uneven anchor]

i didnt say it shoots slow, but that its heavy

[ruby iris]

It's not?

Fucking smg mobility

[uneven anchor]

[weak zenith]

Bro I got crazy Mobility on my m13

What's a good gun, I want to not only use m13

[uneven anchor]

Kilo is nice

ive been liking it more and more

its meta so use that

[ruby iris]

Mfw 3.94 is slow

[uneven anchor]

mfw bsa

[ruby iris]

Literally on par with fucking smgs

[uneven anchor]

[ruby iris]

19 bsa

[uneven anchor]

A tad high

[ruby iris]

Same as ak117

[uneven anchor]

Yeah but you dont need to exactly shoot the head to 4stk

[ruby iris]

Your slow ass p90 has 20

[lean frost]

Amazing entertainment

[uneven anchor]

Cbr and 117 can 4stk with out needing to head shot so bsa doesnt matter that much

[ruby iris]

Practical ttk would still be better than most if not all ars

[uneven anchor]

[lean frost]

And M13 can't..?

[uneven anchor]

yes it cant

[lean frost]

mfw M13 is not a 4 stk

[ruby iris]

M13 cant, but it's 6sk ttk is better than most 6sk ttk

[uneven anchor]

if you dont head shot rip bozo 5 shots to kill

[undone sandal]

m13 flex where

[ruby iris]

You talk as if you have 100% accuracy

[stray rapids]

Sorry i had to play serious

[lean frost]

up there

[stray rapids]

We let mf hv too much room

[undone sandal]

true

[ruby iris]

If both guns have the same ttk, the one with faster rpm would be better

And m13 doesnt lack much behind in terms of ttk

[undone sandal]

ideally you want no bv

[ruby iris]

For mini no stock, 900 would be enough

Especially 880 rpm

[uneven anchor]

Has BV ✅

the ideal weapon

[ruby iris]

But bv isnt a problem for m13?

[weak zenith]

Fennec kinda broken ngl

[uneven anchor]

i mean yeah its not that low

but still

m13 believers destroyed once again

[weak zenith]

I still gonna use the m13 cause it's good

[uneven anchor]

[weak zenith]

And I also grinded the gold camo

[ruby iris]

You would usually use it within 30m, and it hitscans to like 20m

It's an smg with ar range

[weak zenith]

Yeah

[ruby iris]

As opposed to val

[weak zenith]

People hated my sniper m13 loadout

[ruby iris]

Ar with smg properties

[uneven anchor]

sniper m13?…

[weak zenith]

I just made it crazy long ranged

[ruby iris]

Range stack

[uneven anchor]

ohhh

[ruby iris]

Double suppressed

[uneven anchor]

Based

[ruby iris]

[uneven anchor]

Full range m13 ok i have been converted

[weak zenith]

I had Heavy barrel, mono, double stack

[ruby iris]

How you gonna use that range when bv is a thing?

[uneven anchor]

Long live the m13 🙏

[uneven anchor]

Skill issue

[lean frost]

Heavy barrel+ranger nukes strafe
Mono+40r double stack= double suppression (useless)

[weak zenith]

The fennec is pretty good ngl

[lean frost]

[uneven anchor]

5stk at 40m sheesh

m13 full range 🙏

[stray rapids]

More like 25 or so metres

[undone sandal]

ez hvk

[weak zenith]

Yall wanna see something cursed

[undone sandal]

so original

[lean frost]

It's the same as ur other loadout
but better in some ways

[uneven anchor]

[undone sandal]

man doesn't know the range drop still exists

[uneven anchor]

wait what

[pale plover]

Sorry if i bother you, Is m16 Worth it?

[undone sandal]

wildfire? sure

[uneven anchor]

dont destroy my m13 full range dream

[pallid ivy]

Full range my ass

[pale plover]

Is there is any Weapon( Assault Rifle, SMG) That are Easy to use or OP(Except M13)?

[pallid ivy]

That shit has zero mobility

And you ain't gonna out gun sniper at long range

[uneven anchor]

“has zero mobility” 🤓

[undone sandal]

bc it is

[uneven anchor]

bullets doing more damage is more important then mobility personally

[boreal owl]

💀more dmg > mobility??????

Wow dude

[undone sandal]

[uneven anchor]

um yeah dmg > mobility

[boreal owl]

Gonna watch you trying to outrun any shotgunner

🪖

[uneven anchor]

Dont needa strafe if you rip bozod

gonna watch the shotgunner try and outrun my bullets

[undone sandal]

ok and

[boreal owl]

They are agile
They could find cover at any moment

[north rune]

Shotguns can one hit kill you if you're just standing still using a 0 mobility gun

[boreal owl]

🪖and they could get to you in no time

[north rune]

Yep

[uneven anchor]

[boreal owl]

You prob use the long range shotgun build so you don’t understand how fast it is

[uneven anchor]

I do

im a full range shotgunner

[bold ether]

What do you guys think about this skin 🥹

[uneven anchor]

not the appropriate channel but uh its ok. I wont be able to see it on the battle field since ill never download it

The crate below though, the big boy skin that ones sick

[pallid ivy]

So in other word, you're just a noob camper

[boreal owl]

[uneven anchor]

[pallid ivy]

Almost 2 times slower than my build

[weak zenith]

It's fine

That ain't mine

[boreal owl]

M13 is way more like smg rather than ar but
It works as ar also

[uneven anchor]

Almost 2 times lower more range than mine

perfect trade i would say

[pallid ivy]

If I need weapon with good dmg at long ranges then I'll pretty much use Krig

[pallid ivy]

M13 is more of close to mid range weapon

[weak zenith]

Yall hate on this

[weak zenith]

Ye

[pallid ivy]

No troll builds here

[weak zenith]

It's not a troll build

[boreal owl]

Goofy ahh m13

[uneven anchor]

average m13 brained loadout

[weak zenith]

It gets the job done

[boreal owl]

Every gun could get the job done

💀prefect build always works the best

[weak zenith]

The build I made is more my style

[pallid ivy]

Better use this

[boreal owl]

💀damn you got the morning star

[pallid ivy]

And Krig is infinite 5 tap AR and easy to use as well

[boreal owl]

Twil did you post your em2 build already or no

I kinda wanna try a new one

[uneven anchor]

Full range m13 can 5 tap at a higher fire rate

just sayin

[boreal owl]

Bro why would you try to defend that long ass m13💀

[undone sandal]

worse ttk lol

[uneven anchor]

Yal hated me when i dunked on the m13 and when i go full range i still catch some flak

[pallid ivy]

Yeah cool, would be shame if you get one tapped outta existence even before you fully ads against snipers

[uneven anchor]

[boreal owl]

thanks man I gotta try that one

[pastel finch]

Twily can you buy me new AirPods

[stray rapids]

😔

[undone sandal]

no bypass

[uneven anchor]

All a snipers gotta do to decimate their ttk is miss once

im just sayin

[pallid ivy]

[boreal owl]

They could reposition in no time💀

[pallid ivy]

Miss once, slide back into cover then slide back outta it and hit the target easy

[uneven anchor]

and then everybody clapped

[pallid ivy]

Yeah that's what the campers says all the time before they get destroyed

[boreal owl]

seems like I need to get mythic upgrade
I want the skin if yk what I mean

[boreal owl]

Also lmg could outplay you even in long range🪖

[uneven anchor]

ill take my full ranged weapons somewhere else then

[boreal owl]

Any replacement for mag and laser?

[stray rapids]

Noice

[stray rapids]

U can use stack mag and short barrel

If you don't want laser swap to gran

[rich arch]

👀

[stray rapids]

@undone sandal gtg now

Need to solve world hunger

[undone sandal]

oke

[austere igloo]

who uses hg40?

[tacit burrow]

Bro

My luck

Is insane

My cp

Is gone

[rich arch]

Finally

[austere igloo]

now get plati for it

[rich arch]

2 out of 8 so far

[austere igloo]

gold grind for shotguns is now easy coz no more longshots

shorty though 💀

[rich arch]

Im getting close with the other shotguns, but headshots are holding me back

[austere igloo]

shorty is pain in the ass to grind so i wont grind gold for that

i cant be bothered w that shitty ass "pistol"

[rich arch]

Ill play ground war and use a motorcycle to get to the enemy point. Then i can cap 2-3 snipers in the back of the head every match

Dead silence and a suppressor so they dont hear me coming

[fiery grove]

Someone give me a good kilo build

[rich arch]

AR or marksman rifle

[fiery grove]

@ruby iris you got my back right? Kilo build

[ruby iris]

Mono, no stock, mag b, tac laser, gran or ext light

[uneven anchor]

trust

[lean frost]

Supreme

[timber idol]

guys the new spectre bones skin is soo good

[hasty haven]

My eyes they burning

Who the hell thought that it's good idea to put 4.4x optic on this Buitiful skin

[lean frost]

Gran on a burst is supreme

[rich arch]

okay

[storm lance]

Is this still the meta build or is there a new on
( Strike foregrip to tac laser)

[young shale]

yeah my eyes are burning to the insanely small foreign laguage

[young shale]

no the new meta is krig 6

[storm lance]

I'm talking about the build

[rich arch]

this never was a meta build

[young shale]

no stock, rtc silencer/long, gran grip, large ext mag b, owc laser

[storm lance]

Show me pwes

[young shale]

what yall think about tectonic's kilo build

[storm lance]

[lean frost]

ah yes
RTC silencer on kilo

[young shale]

i feel like he should have used an lmg since the killo is so slow

[rich arch]

mono
extended barrel (because of the damage range and bsa and recoil nerf)
no stock
50rnd
Gran/owc laser

[storm lance]

That's the same build i have but without laser

[young shale]

oh wait i realised its kilo

[lean frost]

^

[young shale]

i tot it was m13

[storm lance]

Tank u

[lean frost]

same thing anyway

[storm lance]

@lean frost what is the best gun you prefer

[lean frost]

Qbz
Aug

[storm lance]

Pwes cause I want something good better than my builds

[lean frost]

and the Dingus once that's out

[lean frost]

wait
U were expecting me to prefer using meta guns?

[storm lance]

No anything will be good

[lean frost]

I use everything that's bullpup
with exceptions being the ZRG since it resembles the chinese AMRs abit
and the fennec

I'm probably gonna use dingo the Dingus alot too
even if it's shit
I like the name

[ruby iris]

Dingussy

[lean frost]

frick off

Don't u dare call my dingo that

[storm lance]

Bro is talking about something that's not a weapon for war

[storm lance]

What to use and what are the good builds
I'm being annoying ik but i don't know what to do so pwes

[timber idol]

diamond on sniper be hard the next 2 weeks il have gold i gues

i actually used an ads build now

instead of like the basic stuff

ima show

[young shale]

dingo lingo

[storm lance]

Ohh god again

[young shale]

dingo gringo

[storm lance]

Back to the suspicious name

[young shale]

hey dinog gringo sounds like a nice one

:DDDD

[storm lance]

No it sounds bad af

And so damn suspicious

[young shale]

;////

man

[storm lance]

Yea

[lean frost]

Qbz-95: Mono, Steady stock, Owc tac, SP, Gran
Chicom: Mono, Light stock, Owc tac, Ext mag, Rubberized
UL736: Tac supp, Short barrel, Gran/light stock, 60r mag, Owc tac
Em-2: Agency supp, Taskforce barrel, Agile stock/striker
Swordfish: Tac supp, Light stock, Rubberized, Owc tac, Ext mag/light barrel
foregrip, 30r mag, Sturdy tape
Koshka: Light supp, short barrel, mobility stock, stippled, 6x scope/AP mag
Zrg(posted below)

[young shale]

gringo is just spanish word for foreigner

[lean frost]

[young shale]

chicom......

[lean frost]

what

[young shale]

out of all the gud smgs

u chose chicom

[lean frost]

Aug: Mono, Ext light, Light stock, Owc tac, 40r ext/60r 5.56

[lean frost]

It's a bullpup so it counts

[young shale]

wut.....

[lean frost]

Oh i forgot about s36

[young shale]

couldve at least said cbr4 or siwtch

[lean frost]

Those are not bullpups

[storm lance]

Thx but which is the best for me as a rusher

[young shale]

idc if its not a bullpip

[storm lance]

Kreuger loves bullpups

[lean frost]

[like none are]

[young shale]

fennec is best aggro smg but overall cbr4 is the better smg

[storm lance]

I use Mac 10

[lean frost]

Fennec build:
Mono
Light stock
RTC laser -Merc/5mw
Rubberized
Ext mag

[young shale]

fennec is better than mac right neow

[storm lance]

Meow

[young shale]

are u serious right neow bruh

[timber idol]

if someone want add build go for this

[lean frost]

I'd prefer dingo the Dingus
but anything is better then this

[storm lance]

Ok so Mac 10 with all my hard work and everything is bad

[timber idol]

and this is normal build

[young shale]

dingo bingo duolingo

[lean frost]

anything is better then that

[lean frost]

powercrept

[young shale]

yes that how it is cfor codm

[storm lance]

The first build is fine full mobility but why did you add fmj for this one

[young shale]

wall penetration

wall bang bang

yk

[storm lance]

I would like another word than penetration

[young shale]

wall bang?

[modern mango]

but no stippled

[storm lance]

Bro you are just so suspicious

[storm lance]

Wait then my builds and bad for locus

[young shale]

nooooo

[lean frost]

"We didn't penetrate their Armor, we barely scratched them"
-WoT commander voice every 0.2s when using MT-25

[young shale]

bro its literally the word for shooting poeple thru walls its called wallbang

[storm lance]

I use stippled for speed especially that i go fast so i need speed i go for mobility more than anything

[lean frost]

me when seasonal camo doesn't cover mag

[modern mango]

It’s a fine build I’d just swap out the mag or fmj for stippled for the ads time and sprint to fire.

[long cosmos]

Next season patches coming soon!

Today

[storm lance]

I got 30 kills with this thing

Don't ask how

[young shale]

.....

[uneven anchor]

If seasonal skin covered the whole gun tourny stonks instantly rise 📈

[lean frost]

Compensator

[long cosmos]

Lamb soooosss

[storm lance]

I use stopping power rounds to prevent hitmarker LS

[uneven anchor]

also mfw strike foregrip

Literally the worst attachment in the game

[lean frost]

Strike foregrip is cringe
But since Holger already has great strafe for a lmg I think it'll just nuke it's strafe back to being a LMG

[young shale]

mhm

[lean frost]

P. foregrip on Val:

[storm lance]

I made that as a troll thing i used another build still close to this one but yea wanna see the other one

[young shale]

i actually like the fact that holger is almost gud in everything except ads

good strafing, good dmg range, good dmg, decent bullet velo, large mag size and good control

[lean frost]

I hate the fact that Holger is good in everything a lmg should be good in
I want dingo to be meta

[timber idol]

i was 1v1 imng someone on shipmeny and the tac adds 3 perceny ads

[young shale]

no wonder kith codm said it was #2 gun in

[modern mango]

well it’s an lmg it better not have fast ads and 100 bullets

[timber idol]

@storm lance

[uneven anchor]

yeah let me just nuke mobility and get nothing in return

[young shale]

why did codm even add so many unless attachments

[lean frost]

Which is 1 frame worth of ads

[lean frost]

"variety"

[acoustic gyro]

mw2:

[young shale]

.....

[timber idol]

i clapped him 20 9 bro

and he was using zrg

[lean frost]

I clapped u 20/3 and 2/3 of ur kill were with a knife

[timber idol]

and dlq

[lean frost]

[timber idol]

coz u pro bruhh

why u bullin😂

[lean frost]

Dlq isn't even meta tho

[timber idol]

zrg tho

[lean frost]

I'd use outlaw before I use that piece of overrated garbage

[uneven anchor]

zrg hit flinch 😳

[lean frost]

Less then dlq

[young shale]

zrg is closer alike to dlq