codm-gunsmith-help

[stray rapids]

Then go for it

My favourite gun

[alpine cargo]

well it's atleast my 3rd fav ar

[viscid belfry]

ok

[stray rapids]

Hg is really just a watered down, range limited, larger mag hvk

[copper jacinth]

For me the build works fine🥲

[alpine cargo]

i checked and it got pretty good damage has large mag too

[viscid belfry]

bot match

[rich arch]

what the fuck

why the 6x

[alpine cargo]

i meant hg

[copper jacinth]

☠️😂

[stray rapids]

Hg has a very limited 5 shot range

Like not much further than the 4 shot

So that's a weakness

[alpine cargo]

in your opinion what is the best shotgun?

[viscid belfry]

p90

[alpine cargo]

I'm trying to play sg but I'm pretty bad at it xD i mean average

[strange rivet]

But that's a SMG 🤓

[viscid belfry]

he said smg

[strange rivet]

Striker :anyonebutapollo:
But really i gotta say R90 or Jack 12

[viscid belfry]

krm if u cant play with these 2

[alpine cargo]

hmm dunno i tried jack and krm but not the r90

[viscid belfry]

how im gonna know dumbass

[alpine cargo]

I'll try them later I'll try hades and hg first

[alpine cargo]

that's why i said i dunno too

[rich arch]

yall wuts the meta gun for ranked MP

[alpine cargo]

krig prob

[rich arch]

krig alr

ima pin that xD

nvm

XD

[tough delta]

Daddy is back

[rich arch]

go back

[tough delta]

Why

[rich arch]

because we don't want you

[tough delta]

Okay 1v1 for me to leave

[rich arch]

okay

what guns

[tough delta]

Snipers

[rich arch]

lmao sure

[viscid belfry]

share screen @rich arch

[rich arch]

@tough delta add
7022194996485488641

[rich arch]

nah
imma send ss of results once we done

[rich arch]

cringe

[viscid belfry]

okok

[tough delta]

Yes

[rich arch]

@viscid belfrybro fr used c4
transfrom shield
and went from arctic to koshka to m21 back to arctic 💀

[tough delta]

Gg

[rich arch]

well played

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch 🫂@viscid belfry

[rich arch]

i see you don't know how to 1v1

[viscid belfry]

u won?

[rich arch]

@viscid belfry uwu

[tough delta]

Yea

No uwu

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch 🫂@viscid belfry

[rich arch]

silence peasant.

now leave us alone

you've lost

[tough delta]

Silence person I don’t even know

[tough delta]

I got you

[rich arch]

cope

@viscid belfryi fr got a pred goliath and advanced

[sullen dust]

hm

[rich arch]

yo does anyone have a good krig for ranked MP that i can steak

@viscid belfry where hug

[viscid belfry]

@rich arch 🫂@viscid belfry

[rich arch]

ty ty

[viscid belfry]

np

[peak brook]

@rich arch lmao I like the new name

[rich arch]

i really hope i get the passport

as if i do i fr gonna want to meet you :3

[cursive kayak]

The main reason you'd ever use the merc grip is for hipfire and on the Fennec it's useless

[minor dragon]

Why the fuck is it so low?

[royal dagger]

[royal dagger]

Codm dev moment

[cursive kayak]

Exactly, they nerfed it to shit on the Fennec

[minor dragon]

They need to buff it

Are there any statistics on most popular and most unpopular attachments?

[rich arch]

bruh that shit shreds me in ranked

[cursive kayak]

They also nerfed almost all of the mobility attachments meaning you want to spec into a combo build nah if you want any noticeable mobility increase you gotta go all mobility

[tepid quartz]

I need gunsmith for outlaw please

[rich arch]

Would you use Oden in BR?

If yes why
If no why

[vernal nimbus]

No because its trash

[rich arch]

Why do ppl say it's good if you can hit your shots?

What do they mean

[vernal nimbus]

Well if u dont hit ur shots then the gun is pretty much useless because of its fire rate

[rich arch]

Why is it good if I hit my shots though?

Does it have good upper chest and head multipliers?

[cursive kayak]

Yes because it's fun to use

[strange rivet]

Moment

60 to 40

[cursive kayak]

"If you don't hit your shots then the gun is pretty useless" yeah like every other fucking gun -_-

What are we gonna do when we can't hit people with bullets? Wack them up the backside with the stock? That'd be fun actually

[strange rivet]

Gun melee when

[cursive kayak]

Screw the katana I wanna buttstroke someone

And yes that's the term

Wacking someone with the stock of a rifle, shotgun or other long firearms is called buttstroking

[royal dagger]

I was about to say-

[cursive kayak]

Of course wacking someone with a handgun is called pistol whipping

[vernal nimbus]

I mean with the fire rate it’ll be more punishing missing shots with the oden

Stfu

[cursive kayak]

Okay that was uncalled for

[cursive kayak]

It isn't an LMG, reload time isn't long

[copper jacinth]

Pls dm me a long range switchblade build if u got one🙏

[iron jewel]

here we go 😩

[strange rivet]

Use this before the nerf bc idk what will change

Mono suppressor, extended light barrel, skeleton stock/light stock, tactical laser, extended mag A

[sullen halo]

Anyone got a good arctic 50 build for mp

[rich arch]

for a sec i really thought you were that mf sophie

then recoiled he was banned

yo anyone has a nice Locus loadout

[rich arch]

thx my boi

[royal dagger]

Yw

[rich arch]

fmj where

you disappoint me nini

[royal dagger]

Fudge you, I don't wallbamg

[rich arch]

collats.

walls with locus is useless

[royal dagger]

Really?

[rich arch]

but collats shall be used

[rich arch]

mhm

[royal dagger]

I never knew 💀

[rich arch]

if anything sup to 10rnds
and have fmj

[rich arch]

dummy

Best ar after the krig 6?

[royal dagger]

Pkmk2

[royal dagger]

[cunning rapids]

I wonder what’s the most disliked build

[urban socket]

guess

[unreal gale]

Kilo

Though I would argue kilo is better

[rich arch]

Possibly this

[rich arch]

Pk

Or kilo

[midnight void]

What is this timer for? Top left corner

[rich arch]

Closest looking to g36?

[copper jacinth]

The time u spent ingame already ig

[rich arch]

for how much time you have left lmao

if it's "endless" mode it goes til 2 hours and 40 minutes

next season 3 hours

[copper jacinth]

Huh zombie mode has a time limitation? That's dumb

[rich arch]

mhm

[viscid belfry]

thats endless mode?

[rich arch]

imagine getting a nuke in endless and tea bagging the zombies

[elder glen]

You get +5 minutes,i think,for each cleared wave

[rich arch]

Lol

Quien br?

[vernal nimbus]

M13 > pk

[rich arch]

krig 6 would like to know your location

[elder glen]

The question was "Best ar after the krig 6?"

[rich arch]

I don't read chat bozo

also probably kilo and m13

[grave ridge]

damn how do u last that long

[dusty heart]

M13 has faster ttk

[rich arch]

Best ar after the krig 6?

I like ak117 it shreds but idk if its meta

Any good build for koshka for mp.

Best m13 gunsmiths?

[midnight void]

Stamina

[mighty valve]

I need this skin but i dont have cod points jaksjajakajajkaja

1v4 with sniper

[elder glen]

There are 3 i think :
1)Long barrel
No stock
.300 double stack
Owc laser
Granulated grip tape/optic/perk
2) Integral suppressor
No stock
Extended mag b
Owc laser
Granulated grip tape/perk/optic
3)Mini barrel
No stock
.300 double stack
Owc laser
Granulated grip tape/perk/optic

[mighty valve]

M13= 🏳️‍🌈

[elder glen]

I know

[undone sandal]

nice builds

[copper jacinth]

Yeah I'll stick to bo1 and 2 zombie mode😂

[runic marsh]

Anyone know what I should change in my build to make it better

[dusty heart]

Granulated to mono,asm has good bsa

[rich arch]

Can I get a Jak-12 zombies gunsmith pls

[unreal gale]

Another one

[strange rivet]

Who are you playing with and against

Who are your opponents

[deep swift]

Campers

[strange rivet]

AI

[deep swift]

🤖

[strange rivet]

[rich arch]

Dudes turning into DJ Khaled

[cunning rapids]

Oh damn bp ends in 9 days

damn why my message get moderated if it’s a blueprint

😔

[ruby iris]

[dusty heart]

Unironically using marksman on krig rn

[ruby iris]

💀

[deep swift]

I want that AK to put diamond on it

[ruby iris]

May i introduce you to lmg kilo

[dusty heart]

Ttk at close range can go fuck itself

It’s still pretty fast ads cuz of tape,strafe isn’t even that good to begin with ngl so I’m basically fucking over nothing

[mighty valve]

😦

[dusty heart]

And the ‘aim-shake’ is reduced,

[ruby iris]

2.9 is like way below average

3.5 is decent for ar

Just use kilo if you want to use marksman barrel

[rich arch]

@dusty heart I'm a gay krig user now

@ruby iris correct build?

[dusty heart]

Beam or miss your choice

[rich arch]

@ruby iris gib mp krig build that gud for long range too uwu

[rich arch]

put stopping power
better than dlq lmao

[ruby iris]

Tac laser to soh, light supp to tac supp

[rich arch]

[mighty valve]

@ruby iris how does the ak look with ether?

[dusty heart]

Thermite*

[ruby iris]

Either barrel or supp to optic if needed

[rich arch]

stock can be rds too right?

[ruby iris]

Read what i said when?

[rich arch]

rytec amr would like to know your location

[rich arch]

but me want range and silence
while have rds

[rich arch]

Explosive better

@rich arch you better not rename the Krig to Bk57

[ruby iris]

Buy mythic

[rich arch]

me just rock this goofy ahh shit then

Basically zrg with slower ads

[rich arch]

I'll

[dusty heart]

The mythic is loud asf tho?

[ruby iris]

Turn off sound

[rich arch]

[dusty heart]

I can hear it crossmap when it has a silencer on

[ruby iris]

[dusty heart]

Probably an audio bug

If only it had low frequency like kilo mythic

[ruby iris]

I play without audio so it's not that loud for me

[mighty valve]

😄

[dusty heart]

Other people can hear it

That’s the thing

[ruby iris]

Tell them to turn off audio too

[dusty heart]

L?

[ruby iris]

Idgaf about sound, just slap on a supp to stay off the map

Good enough for me

[cunning rapids]

@runic marsh that’s an hs0 not an by15

[rich arch]

@rich arch

@ruby iris your build very gud uwuuwuwuwwuwu

[small ore]

Rytec is my favorite quickscope cuz it go booooooom

[royal dagger]

Ew wtf
Spaces between emojis

[cunning rapids]

[rich arch]

I'm sorry I don't know how animated emojis work

[royal dagger]

Fixed it for you :>

[rich arch]

Taughts?

[astral crag]

@ruby iris best krig build for mp🙏

[rich arch]

@rich arch that's what I run

For shipment

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Bruh it's so fun

Good for shit teir campers

Because they only know how to pre fire

[strange rivet]

[rich arch]

Lol

[pallid ivy]

[astral crag]

Krig build ?!?👀

[pallid ivy]

#967262815381512192

[astral crag]

Wot

[strange rivet]

Use the command there

[strange rivet]

[rich arch]

Didn't they get banned?

[strange rivet]

Yes but

[pallid ivy]

bring sophie and evil back

[strange rivet]

Wait evil got banned too

I forgor

[pallid ivy]

you can ban elmo instead

[strange rivet]

[royal dagger]

Evil yes, sophie no

[rich arch]

@pallid ivy

[rich arch]

Bring trashcan back

[strange rivet]

Do we also bring back the ban wave from 2021

As In The victims

And silver and Apurbolol

[rich arch]

Idk who you're talking but I'll pretend I know

[undone sandal]

best to not talk about those

[rich arch]

Silver wouldn't come back

Alright

[undone sandal]

especially here

[strange rivet]

Oh right back to gunsmith

[rich arch]

@rich arch this the correct build for zombies?

Snatch to merc fg

And gran to stippled

You mostly wanna hipfire

[strange rivet]

In that case Tactical laser to 5mw laser then

[rich arch]

My ss

Yeah that too

[royal dagger]

Oof no completionist camos
May as well put a grindable camo

[rich arch]

Tac to 5mw

[strange rivet]

I have a SS with 40 rounds and water tournament camo

[pallid ivy]

was she too much for you to handle ?

[rich arch]

I'll put ya on the bed then

[undone sandal]

whos she

[royal dagger]

⁉️

[pallid ivy]

[strange rivet]

Non existent

[royal dagger]

Indeed

[pallid ivy]

Sophie

[dusty heart]

⁉️

[undone sandal]

that isn't a she

[royal dagger]

He*

Sophie catfished

[rich arch]

You, me and Twily in bed

[strange rivet]

I knew it was a catfish the whole time

[pallid ivy]

[royal dagger]

Not twily

[pallid ivy]

dont care

[pallid ivy]

you ugly after all

[undone sandal]

switch back to gunsmiths

[pallid ivy]

@dusty heart you and me in the bed rn

[dusty heart]

Twily already gives me the skull crusher with thighs

[undone sandal]

i am in the mood to update auto builds

[rich arch]

[royal dagger]

Um um diamond hg 40

[royal dagger]

What should be updated

[rich arch]

Qq9

[pallid ivy]

m16

[royal dagger]

I have the cyclone blueprint with aether or gold for qq9

Is that ok

[undone sandal]

don't have perk yet

[strange rivet]

:anyonebutapollo:

[royal dagger]

I never knew y'all were active in campers

[dusty heart]

If that perk doesn’t make it lose range we’re doomed

[undone sandal]

not sure what qq9 next season should be movement based or range based

[royal dagger]

Range based I assume

For passive at least

[undone sandal]

true mono got nerfed

[strange rivet]

Not anymore I'm not

[royal dagger]

Yet you somehow remember emoji names

[strange rivet]

Kinda Forcing us to use recon tac long

[mighty valve]

It's my birthday 😄

[strange rivet]

Prove it

[royal dagger]

🧁

Here

[strange rivet]

[pallid ivy]

recon tac

[mighty valve]

How

[pallid ivy]

[rich arch]

@pallid ivy you, me in the shower rn

Tomato and his boss can watch from the sidelines

[undone sandal]

birth certificate

[mighty valve]

😹

i love this skin

[dusty heart]

Twily dont fw broke ass

[rich arch]

Ight can someone help with a build for mp ranked the sks

[dusty heart]

Short barrel,tac suppressor,tac fg a,stalker stock,gran

[rich arch]

Ty

[rich arch]

I broke your boss' back yesterday, she liked it

[undone sandal]

#967262815381512192
but if you're lazy then here
light supp, mip light, stalker stock, gran, tac fg/disable

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

Ty

[royal dagger]

Disable shouldn't be optional imo

[undone sandal]

you can pick between fg or disable

[royal dagger]

Can I send an ss for mk2

I have a blueprint with polychromatic

Bot uses normal dama

[undone sandal]

i have qq9 with aether

[royal dagger]

Blueprint or no blueprint

[undone sandal]

wih

[royal dagger]

Which one

[undone sandal]

which one u prefer

[royal dagger]

Bottom

[undone sandal]

sure

[royal dagger]

One sec

@undone sandal I'll send rus too, I have diamond with a few blueprints

[undone sandal]

oke

[royal dagger]

@undone sandal

[real crescent]

Not allowed 🚫 in this channel

[undone sandal]

great i have choices

[proud cosmos]

My highest accuracy with this thing was 15% but it still gets me nukes

[proud cosmos]

On bot lobby’s but still

[pallid ivy]

i feel like crossbar makes hades worse

[royal dagger]

@undone sandal Update the m16 ss in the bot with your ss

[royal dagger]

Lmao

[undone sandal]

ill update it when perk is released

see if its worth

[royal dagger]

Ok fine

M13 ss needs updating

[undone sandal]

change to

heavy + double stack?

[royal dagger]

I thought it was heavy + 60 round

[pallid ivy]

Abused M13 on Hs0405 and 2 sx9 users

[stray rapids]

Much worse for lmg playstyle

[zealous hinge]

You don’t need m13 to counter them on hp ship but I guess if you really want them to rethink their choices

[stray rapids]

Use thumper against shitment tryhards

Because why not

[pallid ivy]

At that time m13 was my only anti smg loadout there

[undone sandal]

how am i supposed to use thumper against vtol

[zealous hinge]

I just ignore em and keep grinding mg svd mastery before ranked

[stray rapids]

Outstrafe vtol

[zealous hinge]

100 kills usually pretty easy

[stray rapids]

Don't let them get vtol

[pallid ivy]

C4

[zealous hinge]

Plant a Sam turret

[stray rapids]

Anything to make them rage

Shoot d13 into hardpoint, make it ricochet

Throw 2 mollies

Keep using trophies

[undone sandal]

i already got it diamond

[stray rapids]

Perpetually ads with r9 facing 1 lane

Guaranteed angry reactions

[zealous hinge]

Ion know a pkm spray down of anything that moves works better

[stray rapids]

Pkm on shipment is a little slow for me

[zealous hinge]

Wait melee grind on hp shipment is also a triggering factor for them

[undone sandal]

yes

[stray rapids]

Trophies are most annoying to me

[undone sandal]

me when im using burst guns

[zealous hinge]

Idk I don’t play traditionally and switch from my melee to the pkm for the massive slides

[stray rapids]

But they're such a smart weapon

I don't play hp shipment much anyways

[zealous hinge]

Just play it to flex a high kill streak for ur fav gun

[stray rapids]

It's way too hectic for my calm and sophisticated mind

There was 1 point i even grinded my hvk stats just to make it look good

35 streak or smth

[zealous hinge]

There is a flow to it and it gets boring, not ur usual flow but there is a flow that i unfortunately got used to making me a shipment stomper

[rich arch]

Omg Caramel

[zealous hinge]

Indeed

[rich arch]

[zealous hinge]

Me go back to hw tc

[rich arch]

[ruby sail]

My friend fennec build

Men i'm blind

[runic marsh]

Explain this

[unreal gale]

I tried it too, but I didn't like it. The horizontal gets to me

[royal dagger]

Zamn

[open pivot]

Any sks and m13 builds for both multiplayer and battle royale

[cunning rapids]

That’s an HS0 not a by15

literally a hs0

[dusty heart]

Switched back to short barrel

Kinda working out

Gotta stay away from the smg ttk tho or just abuse movement hoping they miss

[undone sandal]

💀

[rich arch]

Krieg build for br?

[undone sandal]

#967262815381512192 has one

[rich arch]

Thx

[runic marsh]

What do you know about by15

[undone sandal]

that's so far off from the other picture 💀

[cunning rapids]

Fr dude

[cunning rapids]

That is literally different from the other picture

There’s no joke

[mighty valve]

Brooo nice by15

I like that skin

[runic marsh]

Super ultra rare rare

[rich arch]

It was in a crate I believe

And it will probably be coming back

[fallow vault]

I grinded 3-4 hours straight now my eyes hurt
Anything for a Gold Camo

[runic marsh]

No one is getting the joke omg look at the name of the skin

[royal dagger]

Bro's trying to make us think he got the red action by15 💀

[runic marsh]

Key word “Joke”… are you guys 9 year olds😐

[royal dagger]

Aw come on, we're having our own fun, I know it's a joke

In fact, I should've come in earlier and told everyone you were joking

Just to ruin their fun

[unreal gale]

I'm using the 5.3 now

[signal tulip]

RSU-74 or 79

50rnd mag
tac las
no stock
short barrel
mono supp

This gud?

[rich arch]

Yes

[signal tulip]

Aight thnx.

[unreal gale]

I checked the range, sure you lose consistency but the bullet travel speed actually helps a ton with aim @dusty heart

If you hit one chest, it's 4 shot up to like 40 or something

[strange rivet]

The trifecta of HS
HS0(405)
HS2(126)
HSU(xhdbfgv)

[unreal gale]

So you don't really need that range unless you hit all legs

[pliant cargo]

Best krig class

[unreal gale]

Agency suppressor, 5.3/Calvary/taskforce, extended mag b, agile/light stock, bo/fa grips/firm grip tape

They're so many meh builds, no real "best" build for it

[signal tulip]

The k6 is just a blank slate basically

[unreal gale]

it's more like not really good at anything lol

it's way too all rounded for its own good

[signal tulip]

Lmao

[keen gazelle]

@runic marsh really think he got the red action 😭

bro really thought

[unreal gale]

@vernal nimbus any more nukes recently?

oh and btw, try krig with 5.3 barrel

your shots connect a lot more

and everything about it feels sharper

kinda feels like your ping went down by 30ms

[glass gate]

Any good class for qq9 mp

[unreal gale]

mono, recon long, no stock, laser, mag

[fierce igloo]

mono, recon long/mini barrel, no stock, tac laser, 45 ext mag

[vernal nimbus]

No need

[fierce igloo]

[vernal nimbus]

Well i sent u a video but I haven’t played respawns

[unreal gale]

ah

I'm averaging like 1-2 nukes per one hour session now

about time for season end lol

[fierce igloo]

anyone want to movement sniper with this thing?

6 mobility pog

[rich arch]

@pallid ivy another Park skin -_-

[undone sandal]

today i learned

there's two bsa formulas

the one ive been using is only applicable to base guns

the other one takes attachments into consideration

[rich arch]

Jesus

[undone sandal]

nice

[undone sandal]

yea

you know the 11 - BSA * .2248 formula right

[rich arch]

Yep

[undone sandal]

this the other one

[rich arch]

The one we talked about before the stats were added

[radiant salmon]

Lmfao i've encountered this bug too! Free 5x killstreak

[undone sandal]

11 - ((BSA * (1 - AttachmentsBSA)) * .2248)

[rich arch]

Hmm

That explains the bugged stats page

[undone sandal]

same formula but this one takes attachments into consideration

if using base gun then attachment bsa will be 0

[undone sandal]

which simplifies to this

[rich arch]

Yeah I figured it out

Wait I should delete that pic right

[undone sandal]

probably

[rich arch]

Done

Looked like Hades and idk what sniper it was

[undone sandal]

so if i were to take a random gun's bsa

lets say 117

using mono ext light nostock tac laser 48 mag

ingame it says 20.7

which is 6.35 when converted with the formula

6.58 when using the one that takes attachments into consideration

[rich arch]

Hmm

[radiant salmon]

When math is actually useful for calculating video game stats

[undone sandal]

base bsa is 6.73

[cunning rapids]

I’m fucking tired of random god damn br teammates

Literally don’t know how to help

[undone sandal]

@ruby iris am i doing this right lol

[rich arch]

@undone sandal lmao lod got active with a few things

[radiant salmon]

[undone sandal]

oh

[rich arch]

Spoiler - Locus Zealot

[undone sandal]

dam

[radiant salmon]

Oh great what's next, ZRG Holidays?

[fair blade]

Rate

[radiant salmon]

Seems ok
Enhanced bolt for stippled

[radiant salmon]

It aint good anymore and will just make u run out of bullets faster

[fair blade]

Don’t trust stippled

Never have

[cunning rapids]

Locus - Holidays

[strange rivet]

🗿

[royal dagger]

Marksman to mono

[rich arch]

Jesus the content for anniversary is so bad

[royal dagger]

Mythic holger redux is ok, I like the kilo skin

Leggy locus reminds me of that blood and ivory locus skin lmao

[rich arch]

Leggy locus looks like dlq zealot

[unreal gale]

These teams so so balanced

Love getting swarms and advanced uav dropped on me

[deep swift]

[runic marsh]

Nerf swarm, swarms are basically stealth choppers at every angle

[deep swift]

It got nerfed bruh

[stray rapids]

I thought Sophie got unbanned for a moment

🗿🔪

[stray rapids]

Eb is the single best attachment for qxr

[deep swift]

[deep swift]

Besto build. There.

[stray rapids]

Light stock to short barrel is also reccomended

But idk if there is a definitive best build

[fair blade]

I'll try it

Isn't the qxr accuracy really shit though

[stray rapids]

It is

Qxr is good within 20m only

Beyond that is questionable

[fair blade]

Hrm

That sucks I was gonna try rank with it

[peak brook]

QXR is fun to play aggro with

I prefer ppsh or cbr though

[stray rapids]

As val is my preferred aggro

Mp7 is a fun aggro

[rich arch]

krig 6 headshots would like to know your location

[stray rapids]

Hvk headshots would like to disagree

Your name looks familiar yet i can't quite remember where I've seen it

[undone sandal]

goosie

[stray rapids]

Ohh

Completely changed his discord identity

[undone sandal]

ye

[worldly sundial]

W ñame?

[stray rapids]

Meh

[rich arch]

goosie

[rich arch]

[stray rapids]

Ohh

[rich arch]

gonna call mine BK57

[stray rapids]

Completely changed his discord identity

[rich arch]

[rich arch]

mhm

[stray rapids]

Rice seems to have died for a short moment

Is a decent smg

Mono
No stock
Tac laser
45 mag
Recon tac/tac barrel

[rich arch]

wait nah

gonna call it amax (the full name tho)

[undone sandal]

call it

mommy amax

[rich arch]

no
I'm that guy that confuses people by calling guns like other guns
mfs really thought I had a "dlq" with a red dot

[stray rapids]

Fortunate Mom

I name my guns weird names like FatCat or LadyMagnet

[rich arch]

dlq: rytec
spr: dlq
koshka: dlq
locus: outlaw
krig6: amax (once I master it currently almost diamond)

[stray rapids]

Oh my god

Auto m16 has full body 40m 4 shot

618 rpm

[royal dagger]

💀

[royal dagger]

What's that equivalent to

[stray rapids]

Infinite 971ms ttk in br

[stray rapids]

Slightly slower than lk24

[royal dagger]

Interesting

[stray rapids]

M16 is probably broken in br

[royal dagger]

Even better than krig?

What about any debuffs

[olive marten]

Anyone got a realy fast quick scope for locus?

[undone sandal]

great
this happens when i finish my m16 diamond

[undone sandal]

97ms fire int

lk has 95ms for comparison

[undone sandal]

#967262815381512192

[royal dagger]

Is there any other gun with 97ms fire int

[undone sandal]

ul736

[royal dagger]

Ogey

[rich arch]

@royal dagger shouldn't you be sleeping rn?

[royal dagger]

Don't fucking remind me ;-;

Idk why I keep doing this

#967262815381512192

[undone sandal]

#967262815381512192

[rich arch]

Ya mean I shouldn't remember about me fucking you?

[royal dagger]

It was definitely a terrible moment

[undone sandal]

after the update id need to help saiko w updating the chart

and fix the bsa table that's pinned

[rich arch]

So you don't lob me?

[royal dagger]

No I just suck

[undone sandal]

me when i have to probably introduce variables to the bsa table

[rich arch]

That you did

#967262815381512192

[undone sandal]

get roles from #╭╴roles-info #967244943850635284 #959166887265173565 then check again

[undone sandal]

`11 - ((BaseBSA * (1 + (Attachment%)) * .2248)

BaseBSA = ingame bullet spread values, bsa of base gun (no attachments)
Attachment% = ads bullet spread %;
if base gun (no attachments) then Attachment% = 0`

@rich arch @royal dagger what u feel about this

[rich arch]

Hmm

I'm low on cranial capacity so Idk rn

Too tired since I woke up at 2 AM

[royal dagger]

Math brain on 🤓

[rich arch]

This is gonna take a while for finding bsa for every gun with a universal build

[undone sandal]

true

[rich arch]

But there are gonna be some guns that'll have different bsa values based on how people use it

Like Krig

Some use a different fg

Some change the stock

So yeah

It's gonna be an adventure into an Amazon warehouse

[undone sandal]

i wish i could make a calculator from scratch

just plug the values in then poof

[rich arch]

Maybe I could find something online that can help

Like input a function and then just change the variables when needed

Or in this case

[undone sandal]

yeah

[rich arch]

The bsa

[undone sandal]

but that takes a while no?

[stray rapids]

Lapa may be meta

[rich arch]

Using the in-game bsa values?

[undone sandal]

theres only 2 variables
base bsa and attachment %

if its left on default then attachment % = 0

bc base gun

[rich arch]

Yeah but there's lots of guns to calculate bsa for

And then there's the full auto M16

[undone sandal]

only downside is that it breaks when attachment% = 1

nvm

it works fine

it would have perfect bsa

11

[rich arch]

Keep attachment % for base gun as 0 since you're adding it to the 1, not multiplying it

So it wouldn't break

[undone sandal]

-1 i mean

it would have 11 bsa

-1 would be -100% spread
in other terms +100% bsa

[stray rapids]

Hades with rfb now has 27m 4 shot

That's a whole 5m buff

[pallid ivy]

Mythic Holger redux confirmed

Hell yeah boi

[royal dagger]

The kilo in there looks nice

[rich arch]

Rest of the draws are shit

[pallid ivy]

Oh I didn't noticed that kilo blueprint

[stray rapids]

Pp19 is so good now

[rich arch]

You forgot to subtract the base guns bsa

[pallid ivy]

That icr looking goofy af

And character is nice

[rich arch]

Maxis in another crate

[undone sandal]

multiplying it

[rich arch]

I am so confused rn

[undone sandal]

11-0 is 11

[pallid ivy]

Bundle with 9 epics ?

[rich arch]

11 - ((BaseBSA * (1 + (Attachment%)) * 0.2248), sooo if we take base gun (which means Attachment% = 0)
-> (1 + (0))
-> 11 - ((BaseBSA * (1)) * 0.2248)
-> 11 - ((BaseBSA) * 0.2248)
-> 11 - (Product)
-> Resultant BSA

What am I doing wrong

[undone sandal]

no i mean -1

thats correct but i meant -1 gives you 11 bsa

[ruby iris]

Looks poggers

[pallid ivy]

So Pogba is gonna be in BP with Manta Ray

[rich arch]

And Park

[undone sandal]

so if i were to put it into a program like wolfram alpha
it would go along the lines of

[rich arch]

And it looks like Hades in BP

[rich arch]

Eh

[pallid ivy]

So it's not just football

But tons of other sports as well

[ruby iris]

Futbol

[undone sandal]

solve for x [11 - ((B * (1 + (A))) * .2248] = x let B = base bsa value, A = attachment bsa stat in decimal

[ruby iris]

Tfw a mod is discussing leaks

[rich arch]

Bsa formula

[royal dagger]

YES
Seems like every ranked blueprint from now on will have default irons, but different-looking attachments instead of recolored attachments

[rich arch]

[undone sandal]

this should be right

[royal dagger]

Oi
Full auto m16 is just a better icr, so prob won't be meta

Lapa looks promising tho

[royal dagger]

What else

[undone sandal]

delete the leaks btw
contains links and stuff

[sullen kayak]

Mythic Holger Redux? New Mythic like As Val?

[sullen kayak]

Maths

[undone sandal]

i got it to work @rich arch

on wolfram alpha

let B = base bsa, A = attachment bsa stat in decimal, solve [11 - ((B * (1 + (A))) * .2248]

[stray rapids]

It's gonna be very solid

Ary says krig is still better though

[royal dagger]

What's mono gonna do to the 40m 4 shot

Too lazy to calculate rn

[stray rapids]

Multiply by 1.25x prob

You don't really need range boost though

[royal dagger]

Wait

[stray rapids]

40 is sufficient

[royal dagger]

Ok mono would just make that a 50m 4 shot

So maybe no range boosting on full auto m16

[stray rapids]

Ye

[royal dagger]

Alright then here's my build
Full auto perk, 48 round, no stock, integ suppressor/red dot, tac laser

I think full auto m16 can be built like icr

[undone sandal]

krig base bsa

krig aa laser bsa

it works!!

[royal dagger]

Noice

[night torrent]

What is best BK57 build for long shots?

[ruby iris]

Tac laser, no stock, mag, perk, rubberized/optic(?)

Just initial build

Will change later

[stray rapids]

No need rubberized

[royal dagger]

Mhm

[ruby iris]

Hmm

[stray rapids]

Has no recoil

[undone sandal]

im happy that it worked

[stray rapids]

970ms inf br

[ruby iris]

[stray rapids]

[royal dagger]

How fast is that

[ruby iris]

What rpm?

[royal dagger]

618

[stray rapids]

Faster than prime hvk worse potential

[undone sandal]

97ms pv

[ruby iris]

Ehh, could be better

[stray rapids]

97.1 to be exact

[ruby iris]

I was expecting like 700-800 rpm

[stray rapids]

It's a superior icr in every way

Fire rate and range

[royal dagger]

English pls

[stray rapids]

Very, very fast

[royal dagger]

In comparison to what tho

[ruby iris]

Yes, 700-800 rpm 3 tap

With prenerf pharo recoil

But no reset

[stray rapids]

@ruby iris what's the consistent amax ttk in br inf?

[ruby iris]

1000+ iirc

[royal dagger]

So faster than amax
W

[ruby iris]

It's average

Ye

[stray rapids]

You can't compare it to much

It's just

In a class of its own

Like the prime hvk

[royal dagger]

I see

[stray rapids]

Except this shit has no recoil and a big mag

[royal dagger]

M16 new long-range meta for br

[stray rapids]

Fucking hell

[royal dagger]

Very pog

[stray rapids]

Gonna have to rely on the br community remaining as gigabased and sticking to m4

[undone sandal]

only problem
how to make it accessible without needing to open browser

[stray rapids]

I have no idea what you're doing tbh

[undone sandal]

bsa calc

[stray rapids]

As long as its good enough to be used its okay

[undone sandal]

let B = base bsa, A = attachment bsa stat in decimal, solve [11 - ((B * (1 + (A))) * .2248]

[stray rapids]

Try it with ak47 full bsa stack

[undone sandal]

could be optimzed

[stray rapids]

That bsa even goes negative

[undone sandal]

ill try later

[ruby iris]

Mag gives bv but idk if it's worth it

@stray rapids @undone sandal cmere

[undone sandal]

hi

[ruby iris]

Special mag needed?

[undone sandal]

idk

[ruby iris]

400m/s bv without

500 with

But you only have 25 rounds for a 750 rpm gun

[undone sandal]

hm

[ruby iris]

Also

@undone sandal

6m 3 tap

[undone sandal]

zamn

[magic portal]

Yeah new LAPA sub machine gun yep the games gonna be broken again

[undone sandal]

let B = base ads max spread, A = attachment stat in decimal, solve 11 - (B(1 + (A)))*.2248
input this to wolfram alpha for bsa conversion
if base gun then A = 0

[ruby iris]

Lapa vs rus

[stray rapids]

No

[ruby iris]

Thought so

[stray rapids]

25 mag with that fire rate is stupid

[stray rapids]

The hell rus has 4.76m strafe?

[undone sandal]

skele light

[stray rapids]

Lapa is definitely a meta

It's like prime pk with slightly worse range, better firerate and better mag

[stray rapids]

Try pp19

It looks very good now

Consistent 3stk first range

Heck it probably qualifies as part of the meta

Has 30m effective range

[iron viper]

JAK-12 gunsmith?

[stray rapids]

36.6m 5 shot

Given that 1 can aim upper body

[undone sandal]

welp

[stray rapids]

What do u say, prime pk rivaling?

I think it loses out on fire rate

And fire rate only

[ruby iris]

Flinch:

[stray rapids]

Oh yeah

Fire rate and flinch

But also has big mag

Massive cqb potential

And hipfire to help survive close range encounters

Also has virtually no recoil and clean ironsight

Has worse bsa

Less consistency more 4 shot range

They sound quite equal

But u get ext mag and pp19 has over twice the ammo of pk

[unreal gale]

Another nuke

New build

[stray rapids]

Idk man, i think pp19 wins by narrow margins

[ruby iris]

Agile stock

[unreal gale]

I don’t hip fire

So I thought why not and chucked it on

[ruby iris]

Ye, just have worse hipfire cuz why not

[unreal gale]

There’s stf

[undone sandal]

i now have a bsa formula that accounts for attachments and can simply be pasted into a calculator like wolframalpha but idk how to put it into a table that can easily be understood by people

[ruby iris]

If you dont hipfire, stf isnt that important

[unreal gale]

I slide cancel and hardscope a lot, but idk it might come in handy

[stray rapids]

From experience its very nice to have hipfire

For those emergencies

Because trying to hipfire at point blank felt like a death sentence with pk

[unreal gale]

Eh okay, I’ll switch back to light

[undone sandal]

i wonder if i can put that into something like excel
where you just need to plug in numbers

I can't shut th fuck up about this can i

[stray rapids]

You don't need too

I never shut up about hvk either

[undone sandal]

i wonder if i can get it added to gunsmith helper

/bsa spread: attachmentstat: optional

something like this format

idk thats just my idea

[minor dragon]

m16 now has best 4 shot range in AR category

what do you think about that?

@stray rapids

[pallid ivy]

I use agile stock tho
Fight me

[peak brook]

What

[stray rapids]

Yes

Instant meta

It has low firerate tho

618rpm

[minor dragon]

slow rpm keeps it from being meta IMO

[stray rapids]

It's definitely a meta now

40m 4 shot is no joke

@ruby iris can u try m16 and see how good the bsa is

No way it retains burst bsa

This m16 has such good range that boosting it is unnecessary

And supposedly it has amazing bsa

Has easy recoil too

So u can do a full mobility stack

[minor dragon]

i understand but it cant be an all round gun due to slow rpm. My understanding of a meta gun is a gun that is good in all scenarios like the m13 for example whereas the m16 is gonna be bad for close range due to low rpm. But thats just my take

[stray rapids]

And it'll beam like hell

[stray rapids]

It can 3 shot i think

[minor dragon]

you need headshot tho

[stray rapids]

M16 at this point is a superior ranged krig

[grand flint]

Anyone know how much cp it costs to get mythic Krig 6

[stray rapids]

It doesn't need to be versatile to be good

Heck rpd is good too

[minor dragon]

im not saying it is not good

im saying its just barely not meta

close range performance prevents it

also, MW2 gunsmith kinda scuffed not gonna lie

[stray rapids]

M16 "Wild Fire" (full auto) perk Details

1. Rate of fire is 618 rpm, which is slightly lower than LK at 625 rpm

2. Up to 20m, one single headshot will guarantee a 3 shot kill which compensates for mediocre base ttk

3. 4 shot range is 40m which is incredible and best in class

4. 5 shot range is infinite and there's no drop off

5. BSA is excellent and recoil is low

Overall M16 with the new perk is one of the best ranges weapons in the game if not the best one

Thanks to @whole swallow for providing the images

[minor dragon]

yeah i saw it

[whole swallow]

Someone pinged me?

[rich arch]

m16 gonna be Meta frfr

[unreal gale]

So close

[unreal gale]

It shoots way too slow

Krig with Calvary also basically hits 40m 4 shot range

And it shoots a lot faster

[ruby sail]

m16 full auto is 618rpm

Kind of low for me

[undone sandal]

97.1ms fire interval, nearly identical to ul736 firerate

ul736 has 97ms pv

[ruby sail]

Any think about M16 full auto?

[stray rapids]

No it does not

[unreal gale]

Check it

You need one chest shot

[stray rapids]

Well m16 doesn't

[unreal gale]

Cool. And it shoots way way slower

[stray rapids]

M16 4 shots with 100% consistency

[stray rapids]

32rpm isn't world ending

It's a 5ms difference per shot

[unreal gale]

Well krig is still better

[stray rapids]

It is

But m16 is still gonna be a meta

[unreal gale]

Define meta for me

[stray rapids]

Its long range performance is simply unparalleled

[ruby sail]

Is kind of low

Don't you think?

[stray rapids]

Prob a low meta

But u use the gun as intended

And you're unstoppable

[unreal gale]

What's icr rof?

[stray rapids]

600rpm

M16 is basically a beefed up icr

[unreal gale]

Hard to say

Icr also has no recoil good mobility and good range

[stray rapids]

It has very slightly better rpm, better range, better mobility stack

M16 also has no recoil according to people who has used it

[unreal gale]

Well people say krig has no recoil

[stray rapids]

It's just 1 straight line

People say krig has aimshake

[unreal gale]

It has significantly more than icr and bizon etc

Those are the true zero recoil guns

[stray rapids]

I can't speak for how the recoil is as I personally have not tried the m16

[undone sandal]

m16 recoil isn't that bad

then again i used rubberized

[stray rapids]

But stat page shows a straight line, and from videos it looks nonexistent

[unreal gale]

BSA is definitely crazy on the m16

[stray rapids]

Sod says bsa is amazing

There might be a chance it retained burst bsa somehow

[undone sandal]

is there like no bsa or range cons

[stray rapids]

Lemme ask people

[unreal gale]

I mean it doesn't say decreasd bsa

[undone sandal]

that 11 bsa fr op

you don't even need to add any bsa attachments

[unreal gale]

Would be a nice off meta

[stray rapids]

At this point m16 is THE range ar

Hella broken in br too

Just slap a mono and u got 50m 4 shot

[undone sandal]

it would have 8.53 base bsa

[unreal gale]

Also m16 ironsights suck

So unless you get the legendary, you need a red dot

I guess same for krig

[stray rapids]

M16 attachments aren't very game changing tbh

[unreal gale]

But I already have the Krig

[undone sandal]

the build i use has 8.41 bsa
w rubberized and integral

[stray rapids]

Just the 4 that is needed

No stock
Integ supl
Tac laser
Mag

[stray rapids]

Apparently this build beams

[undone sandal]

you only really need 4 attachments for m16
last is filler

[unreal gale]

I don't like tac laser

I'll probably find something else