#codm-discussion
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nuke overhaul when
bo6 nuke in codm 
How to I join giveaway
I would want dark ops in codm
why so many pings 
whale: buys mythic nuke skin
: proceeds to never get a nuke
yea who ping @elder niche

noooooo
bro these shotgun users gotta go this shi so wackkkkkk
nooo me love shotgun, snipers gotta go
Umm , that pfp 
Every time I feel like a failure like I'm not enough, like I can't be.. I read this quote "to laugh more and hard, To gain the respect of the wise and kids' love. To leave the world.. a better place to live, to know there was at least one soul has breathed a little better just because you were here.. this is the success." - Ralph waldo Emerson"
jannah u should sleep
Changed my life
if u dont understand the lifestyle then dont speak on it
I had a bad Vision
thank you codm for giving me bots
fr

still sleep
@half anvil check his pfp @silent brook
Bots? 2.44?🥀
at least you got 1 good player
the name lol
whats wrong with my pfp
sbmm is one of the top 5 worst things they did with this franchise
preference
bots better
disagree
from last game

🍔
sbmm is the only reason why this game is still alive

nah i get hella pissed when my whole team goes negative

which happens to 80% of my matches
I mean everyone more or less experiences that
its jus a profile pic dawg wtf are u sayin i have to have certain pfp ?
so its not skill based
but still, sbmm keeps the game playable for most people
its giving me trash team after i win once
cod is alive without this shit for two decades
like 0.2 kd trash
it aint that bad
what are the other 4
cp
back to grinding ranked
well it is. even when you get a trash team, you can see that the actual score for most of your games are actually pretty close
every game nowadays has a currency
cod runs on a different system though
most people actually play casual (pubs)
pubs with all bots in there
codm also doesn't have sbmm in pubs, but we have tons of bots
bro got converted to destinyism sed
so I personally think they should add an option for us to choose to not match bots in pubs
although I'd leave shipment lol
not enough pub players
shipment is too small for 5 people
I wouldn't say so actually
especially if they removed bots
people would play pubs because why not
I'd play pubs
especially to dodge sbmm
although for a lot of people, pubs is gonna become harder than ranked lol
Matchmaking pairs us with real players whenever possible; if none available we are matched with bots instead
Do u guys also receive hating when u give an opinion like "I don't like campers" ?
it doesn't though
idk what server you play mine does
every full player lobby in pubs you only get 3 real players on each team
i play solo
you can only get more than 3 real players if you're stacking
yep
so most games are just 3 players 2 bots on each team
It does, sometimes on the ranked too (only who didn't reach legendary)
I hate this gng
shouldn't be this way tho
Who
not good for solo players
the game.
I mean yeah, but ranked only gives full bot lobbies. and it's NOT because they can't find a match for you
playing against bot team
Ah.. I see
guys,is there any way that on hide and seek you can jump like to the limit map height?
im talking when we play solo
?
It's random, u also may get bots because u lost many times..
we get matched against bots mostly if we solo pub
Bots in ranked r better then 90% percent of the ppl
ding ding ding
well it's not random, they force a pity bot lobby game after exactly 2 losses
thats ranked
not pub
yeah
Their aim is better than me
Lol
wait but if you play solo in pubs, you're still in those 3 player 2 bot lobbies most of the time
Gettin' 360 headshot by bots all the time
either that, or full bot lobby if you lose/first match of day
gunskill maybe
even i solo match rn pub 90% chances i get bot lobby
strategy wise they literally walk in a single file down mid
Bots in MP ranked beat even pros
i started hating bots when they added them in ranked
ranked was fun before that
ranked was fun when sbmm wasn't so strong
They could nerf their aim a bit
nowadays it's almost impossible to smurf
like bruh i don wanna waste my time in ranked against bots
and it just makes stuff like top5k even more meaningless
haha blue ppbizon + hipfire headshot
Yes that's too but sometimes.. u get a team of bots, u may get at least 3 real ppl, the others might be bots (that's when you play unranked and alone on random) but in ranked it's very rare to meet bots, especially if ur rank was higher than a grandmaster V , more likely impossible to see bots ..
creepy😭
is this better for u hall monitor ?
Nooo it's still fun even if they're strong as long as they're playing fair like no camp no other annoying things
Me
well yeah... but you're guaranteed bot lobbies if you lose 2 games below legendary
Huh?
Normal Russian guy
changed my pfp
depends if you enjoy the sweatfest
Better pfp now, 
I either get bots or aim god hyperbeings that kill me before I can sense them. No chance to fight players at similar skill level as me and actually improve at playing
feels like a punishment like when i want to push myself after losing two i get a stupid bot lobby
Good doing 
Really? I didn't see this, no no it's more when u lose more than 3 or 4 u finally might find bots
use alert or sum
yeah. the 'pity' match is so insulting lol
definitely pisses me off too
you lose due to your team being... very unhelpful
after losing twice i tried restarting my device and still got bot lobby
and then they basically say "since you're so bad you can't win against players, we'll let you have a win against bots so you get better"
bruh don't 😭
I don't want to carry the whole team
Don't play frontline bro, why bother playing that shitty mode??
me lucky i don need to deal w such maps
Cuz if I join I might doing the objective solo
could be based on mmr
i play all modes except snd

Add frontline to your exceptions.
I never liked snd, only good in Csgo
New rus legendary
gonna switch to br if new movement turns out to be actually good
rus
oh dear. this doesnt look good
people are bad though
is that an ipad m4 pro?
remove frontline tdm snd from ranked modes
Same to teammates
does it support 120 fps at max graphics?
wait snd is literally the main mode
Nah snd is fine in ranked.
tdm/ftl I agree though
?shi y mode? Show some respect! (I'm a Rusher)
those modes are literally not competitive
Yes
😭snd players sry lol
remove all respawns
fck no
I play on 120fps
like max max ?
Hardpoint >>
🙇♂️
Ohh the highest? Haven't searched for the highest actually
only respawn i like a bit is control
I mean as a HP-only guy, I agree, but you have to admit that snd is the main mode
I am not snd player, but snd is actually suitable as a ranked gamemode.
But my phone supports 120fps as max, I play only on 120..
max graphics
N it's "ultra"
oh
In my opinion, removing the rank MP in it's entirely
I think suitable is an understatement

I think they should reset everyone down to 0 every season
there is no evidence for this, lol

What is it then?
It's ass
Fk yes
most played mode in every region, especially china, and come on, it's a defuse mode
ngl the hdr is good
lino br nob
If you love camping and don't have balls to move from your place, play frontline.

I clutched without downloading the skin lmao it fires just like the dlq
True
lol, my reaction exactly
what's the highest graphics settings ipad pro support at 120 fps?
well max
Hardpoint should be only givin points only when ppl sit in the objective
at least bro knows
Just saying
you can play on high graphics and ultra
nd I thought I was trippin
Yes, the ultra graphics are the Max for phones in codm which is 120fps
that's what it is though?
Discord not discording rn 
I mistook the mode
The other one, what is called
domination?

Yeah
domination?
I haven't played codm in a while I forget a lot
I play on it but I wish I had snapdragon.. so I can play on ultra graphics and ultra quality but dimensity 8300 didn't get the full support from Activision to use them both
who said go?

I mean hey, at least after the domination rework, the game is actually playable lol
the gun
cx mythic
Deserved
Because a fkn dog user
go 🗣️
ohh
noooo give her back😭😭
do you remember in the earlier days, when the point would reset if you don't fully capture it?
hello strangers
dom was hella cancer back then
It should be like in football, the balon possession must matter more
stat against a lk leaderboard and a bizon leggy
I'd strongly recommend playing on phone
- diff intended they think they funny but there not feel like i"m going crazy over dis game nd they jus manipulating
destiny has very little movement
and phone aim assist is WAY stronger
I can't send photos, videos, gifs..I'm caged
I jump a lot
good
I played without downloading the skin lol
And slide
no slide, no slide jump, strafe etc etc
another good mobile game
parent company is banned in my country
i remember dom when they launched molotov as a operator skill😭
let's be honest, with the way they implemented the slide, nobody slides lol
Yo scan slide, hold the jump button and slide down
"enemy molotov friendly molotov"
Yeah true
Yeah yk, when u face someone and jump like that u become on the other side and they lose u n u kill them easily 😭😭
dont download guns with bad iron site
oh yeah boy
They got time to do better
uav shock rc molotob grav spikes quick cycle
the gun don't have a bad iron sight?
The game is about a week old
I don't know why they didn't just add a slide button like EVERY OTHER MOBILE FPS GAME
crazy molly spam and getting fried like kebab😭
it quickscopes just like the dlq
cx burst demon?
I'm mad too
I brought it up in the destiny discord
Also they slightly downgrade the graphics
and all the dudes there are like "you actually can slide bro, it's not that hard"
why?
I mean I know Destiny Rising is mobile game
What can I say, is messy there. Young community
like dude shut up. the slide sucks and you know it
but still nice that they put bluestacks as supported emulator
1 simple reason: aim assist
there should be attachments for the launchers
Also the tutorials
ah right, Aim Assist
Like what?
let's just say that destiny rising is one of those games made by people who've never played a mobile shooter before
so like I can get 2 legendary guns from login?
"short the shild to deals damage to the shild with shild" ish something
well change the recitle

they basically think touch players can't aim
I don't, this is why I play it because I don't want to play search and destroy, ngl it's fun but I'm a Rusher it's not my game style to think or to plan a bo m b , I just want to rush and kill n help
like different type of ammo u put in them
okson
so they give one of the most ridiculous aim assist I've ever seen, almost on the warframe level
I really love tv girl
what if i dont want to put a scope
I think I have a video
Kinda true
BAZOOKA SHARKS
if we had this aim assist in codm, the game would literally crap out
Interesting, but devs won't do that, since they chase money and don't want to add fun things that may not cause a profit for them
In a PvE is welcome

, pvp is bad in every game
fr
yeah idk why they kept it for pvp lol

pro strat in pvp: don't jump lol
Wait destiny has pvp?
what did i do
if you jump, the whole enemy team gets 3 seconds to beam trace you through the air and you have no cover
yeah
havin skill issues
I'm not gonna ever play that
it's actually not bad
Cutie cat
except for the fact that it's all about game sense and nothing about aim lol
I think the dumbest thing about destiny pvp is that you get all your skills
free xp
is it available for mobile?
Nah, with that aim assist it will not be long untill SWEaty ppl will arive
Woah 2 highest tiers? CODM would never 
which feels like you're trying to 1v1 someone who has a warmachine with your ak117 lol
oh wait i can download it
yeah
is valorant available for mobile?
mobile game
The greed
not sure but i think so
regional?
its gona be
like 2 exotic guns... just for login
Ur server is filled with fk-ing campers

Good tho
idk i dont play it
it's a gacha game though
bruh i wanna try it
arab side
aka, you kinda need to have multiple copies
1 copy doesn't do jack
tbh I knew it XDDDD
i downloaded it from the website and its exe idk what that is
emulator
Cooked
executable file. basically the windows version of an .apk
My battery is 55
N I don't want to play while it's 55
Bcz I'm going to loose myself
bruuuuh thanks means I can't download it for mobile 
you get to feel what having soft aim hacks feels like
N keep playing until my phone power off
oh. I mean it is regional
So... 8 days to figure out if the mythic RAM7 is worth buying... Or just get the Oden and stop fucking around...
This could damage your phone in long term
uh this might change your mind
dayum, will it be global soon?
What game
bp ram7 is ridiculously good
valorant
I'm not a camper tho wdym
how strong are we talking
Bro
if the ram is a good gun get it
tbh I played plenty of Wuthering Waves and Genshin and Honkai Star Rail
to the point where I don't see how much better the mythic ram can be
Yes this is why I don't want
mind ur own business
let's be honest. at the moment on mobile market best working stuff is gacha
As a Valo player I don't think having a mobile version of it is the best idea. Especially considering the sheer toxicity
I'm on an Arab server..
I've actually never played those. I have a friend who plays afk arena though. he's like rank 2 f2p in the world
*sheer idiocy and overpriced skins
I heard... Mythic has to slay just cause of the wait they can't drop some mid mythic. But I love that Oden ..
Noi, rip my headphones 🎧
he talks to me about all the metagame theory about gacha games lol
ok and
Relatable
every mobile game ever
have you ever tried any phone csgo clones?
U were talking about it
I don't wanna play another pvp game
I wouldn't recommend the mythic oden personally
It has to be... Bit if they focused on a peak BP50 replacement then Oden...
I think that blue legendary one is better
but in valorant it is worse
and ram7... is definitely hypermeta right now
even bp won't give back money in Valorant
Isnt that limited to servers though...Cause there are thousands of subservers.
Also havent seen that game in ages. Me and Ninvdoonf used to play it
I will forever be stuck into the dangeon with codm and thats it. No more pvp games
did i say YOU were a rat ? no
Mind your own business
Why's that
Nah
well yes, but there are also events that spans servers
it will be the meta but hope they dont nerf it much
Stop yelling at me
1000 dollar skins? 😨
Why u rude
and apparently there are like 5 kraken guilds at the top
Bismallah ..
True. Not really the most competetive scene though
and everyone knows everyone else
What
The 44k tundra skin in CSGO
you'd be surprised haha
not sure if you played long enough to play the "AE" mode
Or the 100k$ sticker
but man people SWEAT
like you have bundle that costs like over 80 bucks
csgo is different kind of gambling
it started with just people playing literally the same battle over and over again for like 4 hours to get an optimal hit
Not at the scale of codm with dedicated esports I mean.
And yeah I remember Abyssal Exploration
and then the algorithm guys came in
bloody Math PhDs sitting there sweating maximal flow algorithms
I mean I only get happiness from skins
the whole thing is so ridiculously sweaty it's actually funny
oh that's a bit better than codm
people literally invest like 20k each (70 people in a guild) every time the event comes around
@half anvil only shit from valorant I genuinely wanted was Oni Series skins
cuz kill effect

Lol fair enough
I need to do ranked sigh
I played ranked. Pain
Been skimping on effort lately
so basically single player games?
Campaign only games? What that
I see
I got 2 noob lobby and whipped them with cx burst
If anyone that spam movement im norm cooked
ITS NOT OK TO NOT GET YELLED AT?!
Why not use the vmp? It is better for movement based playstyle
No..!
thanks mods (whoever unmuted me)
Why did u get muted?
dunno, some auto trigger
Got them on the second game, didn't care about ram7 killed em all
I think might've been the word "d. ||| ox:
did he say swer 😰
Ram7 is mid sorry, I just saw it's stats and it's trash
wait what?
how did you come to that conclusion
35m of consistent 210ms
huge mag
Faster ttk and movement
I don't see that it is special at something
Fuck you
well it's a flex AR that's hypermeta tier
YES OF COURSE!!!!!
This weapon would have fit this season much better imo
kinda like saying "uss9 is not really good at anything in particular"
because well... it's good at everything lol
You don't know how to check stats bud

@fair root gаybaby33
we've never had a 210ms ttk 4 shot gun ever I don't think
type19 and xm4 are 240
and 30ms ttk different is a LOT
Jack of all trades but a master of none, a weapon that is the best at 1 thing will be better that's why I choose the vmp over the uss
that's the difference between a M4 and some meta AR option
except it's more like... master of all trades
just like uss9
hence hypermeta
"master" level performance across multiple different categories
No..no.. noo! Pls! U can't! ૮ ◞ ˕ ◟ა
Nah uss's range is good but, it isn't great, same with everything else it can do
wait surely you're trolling right?
200ms ttk
Low level roles what can you expect
He’s rage baiting ignore him
up to 30m
I don't think he is though
he's just trying to propose an unpopular opinion
Wassup yall
Unpoppular or unheard of
sup
but I think he's really weighing it poorly here
I'm not ragebaiting this time trust me, it's just my opinion
He will understand when someone using ram7 whip him
like I see where he's coming from, I just think he didn't compare the stats side by side
I was playing codm in School Without sound and i got mvp in 3 matches straight
gаybaby33
nice
Factually wrong opinion
fake news🥀
oh have you tried ram7?
It's absolutely fucking nasty
yeah ikr
Can a uss user beat a vmp user at extremely close range?
what do you think about the wz style animations?
Can a uss user beat an ak-47 user at long range?
no, but it's close
and yes
yeah
Dmg will reduce
Uss9 still dominates dw
ak47 has worse recoil, much worse movement, and 220ms ttk if you hit all shots
uss9 has 200
it's so funnn
I like the custom movement of the ram7 ngl
Is this the general chat?
I hated it at first but it's clean
pretty much
more of the everything chat
Cool. Thanks for responding
our server is pretty simple, anything and everything goes on here
Took so long for me to find lol
if you want gunsmithing specifics or just want to post a picture, you can go to #codm-gunsmith-help
So went in Directory
You stay on topic when the channel is on topic otherwise fair game
yeah
Idk why devs made Alcatraz less playable 
if u need to find it again u can use the search
then just type “discussion” and it’ll show up for u to go into
feels like warzone to me
also you do have to keep in mind that most gunfights happen within the 15-25m range
Cool. Thanks
and "technically better in one area" isn't exactly a great stat to measure guns by
Got it
Ram7 is pretty smooth to use
you need to compare guns hollistically
and flex weapons, whether it's a flex smg or a flex ar, are usually the best
especially in ranked
Using it in BR lessens its potential
comp scene it's a lil different
Shawarma.
Agreed
Is it worth buying Mythic?
Yes
Or soon it gets nerfed in next seasons
the battle pass skin is very good
If you like the art style
In WZ it’s versatile for BR
like VERY good
Yup
so up to you
bp skin is actually insane lol
Show me
I feel like ram7 mythic design is one of the best rn
better than most legendaries we've had
agreed
people are a lil thrown off by the color
Oh I haven't checked. But will see I didn't even save for BP
The design looks like the BP50💔
I'll try find a picture
Always
I can see that, but imo I think it’s rlly unique
Just bc starry night 😂
it has phases though, its base changes color from the normal to a dark blue ish way
"a little off the top"
look how much vertical distance we get
I think that’s pretty sick
I felt they should have used purple and gold
A iron sight?
yeah, bp ram7 sight

if you've tried the base ram7, you'll see that the only aimshake is the back ring
well guess what. bp skin they bloody removed that ring
so you literally get no aim shake
I mean people could always just slap their fav camo over it lol
diamond or borealis camo would do the trick
that’d look hella cool tbh
I’ll go for LB for the ram
we'll see

good luck bro. gonna be hella sweaty
True. Ppl could jump the whole BP to get a start on it
Tier50?
Base will be better
btw checkout this m4 model gameplay
The aimshake
I guess
m4 kinda has that issue
but it's an option for people who don't like the new animations
Holy aim
do u guys think I should test my luck for the next armory series
or save the free tickets they give

jussst won 750k in accidental claims
what gunskin should I waste my money on next?
nah my aim is hella rusty from only playing destiny lol
my codm sens is WAY higher
and it feels weird now haha
You a beta tester?
no no, game dropped
I don't think you can save em any longer after the patch
u can’t save them?? do they expire
I thought we could js keep them in our inv till next armory series
that's what we used to do
they were like, Nope
gotta nerf it or everyone will walk out with a paid legendary
oh wth when did they do this, for the gundam series or what
when that that happen
but can't really confirm
since the only armory after the patch was the Gundam one
SPEEDWAGON PLAYS CODM? DANG
aw man wtf
THIS GAME'S THAT GOATED HUH
since my memory is all fuzzy<
classic codm move downgrade free experience so they're forced to pay. hate this scummy behaviour
don't trust it
Try to get the locus
ok ok
but if it's necessary, I'll talk to some LoD members
also hi angel
I might go for t19 or locus
Hiiii milii
u should both of their designs r so cool
Rather get t19
ok please do and when u get the info
@ me
I have 3 legendary locus skins
But now I can use em all 😏
Shawarma.
ram7 porbably going to replace it though fyi
hi raptorraptor!!
Wsp mili
but I guess locus has been replaced years ago lol
Homework💔
Didn’t even play today, tmr
I'd like to share you my experience
Got it for free
yoo rappy
Meanwhile having electron and neptune
Hey wsp
shit
@noble otter
lights went out
this is nice though
pc might say goodbye any second now
I have 😏
whoa that’s awesome
aw dang
Hi
yeah, took the picture from your collection lol
😲😲😲
wait deadass??
r u 10cp region or what
No
he's a s2 player
Just the free coupons
so doubt
Excuse
These cramps killing me
Season 1
goddamn wtf is the insane luck
Guys how does peacocks sound like I'm really curious I feel like they sound like a dolphin
oh cool
oh no go put ur feet in warm water and it’ll work
N they're so pretty too
it sounds weird but it makes it go away
Beta through obb and apk
pretty sure they squawk lol
Aw look we have the same color
Js like me
feet -.- weirdo >:3
thanks man

Then I guess ima spin for metal whiskers
What the fuck did I come back too
wow I try to be nice how dare u
He's so scary
Vmp effect
Maybe 4th legendary locus

silence, yong ahh childe
old ahh
That aim
talk abt unc
Where aim?
Spray and pray
Then how old r u
Might need a double prayer for that 😭
cool new frames btw
older than u
lmao breaking Jannahs heart
Aw! Don't thank me , I'm blushing
she's literally an auntie to you. fr
Aw
Everyone is old here!
she's at least 15 and a half
r u a great great great great great great great old person to jannah then
51
wait actually

I've been there for 23 years
wow and I try to be nice here
NO
LOL
LMFAO
Only me n raptor
WHYS THE AGE 14 TO 59
Ikr I'm onto something
mili is 36 n I'm 38*
😭😭 does this even makes sense
I think most people here are in their 20s

because yk, highschool/college-ish when codm came out
Yes, some of them are young but
Mili is between 1 year older than me and 3x my age
It's rare
oh hell nah
half this server ain't even 18+ gng
66🥀
Yeah true
oh yeah I js noticed that too
She sounds young
hella late reply LOL
I feel like most regulars are though
who is the she u r talking abt
Like I might think she's 18-20 smth
Most people join here for the gw and forget Abt the server tbh
U
like? ig james, mty n uhh Milk fren
great
I need fr
Maybe also 17! Ngl I'd suspicious dat
James is like 40
yeah
right, this server does gw I forgot
oh and ftw
Crazy
SERIOUSLY
Guess so
goddamn
well James has a wife so
I got it, right!
no
Fn fal with burst doesn't make sense 🥀
Awwwww! So cute!
are you... 30+?
Huh..
Mili are you between the ages of 50 and 107
NAH
okay
QwQ..
102
didn't say anything then
71
17
under 30 is young yes
correct!
I know it
oh wait she said yes
Roughly
okay then yeah, still young xD
I said dat! She's like 17 to 20
you said 18-20
Sharing or telling your age on the internet is completely useless and worthless, most of you won't even be 20 in reality
Damn chat Andrea said you won't hit 20 I wouldn't take that
OLD AHHH🫵
Why are yall busy on age 😂
they think im 60
topic came up lol
I said I'd suspicious 17 too
I suspect triple digits
Nah, mid 20
jannah thought I was 15 at first
ah, ok
triple digits oh hell nah man
I mean based on your pfp, not a bad guess
Bcz he said u r Childe
and from the way some of you behave in this server, not even 18
that’s bc @abstract vessel is old af
Aw
Ik but lag53 kinda meh just a worse oden rn so a burst would be interesting
Quadruple?
im like, one year younger than ruru
are you fr
Oh I know your age
💀
jokes aside, this is true
strange
Wild
I mean trying to classify that in an online chatroom is in itself not super reasonable
Ok
yeah it ain’t no triple digits
1006
Yay
mili is 61 :3
Old
Built the pyramids
She made the lydians 😭😭😭
not as old as ruru
bro was Cleopatra's "close friend"
is this some inside joke where the real answer are the numbers reversed
Best friends with Medusa
Onion..
you're very smart, unlike me
hummm
Tats bcz u r 50!
pop also pretty much said it too
Idk, seems like your mid 20s
Single dad!
but yea we just like to exaggerate the age gap for funsies
😂😂😂
Im quite old
She could be 18 too
40 years old gramp
How

Wot
if you're going off her pfp- y'all know we can put anyone's face as our pfp right
Im just joking around, idrm if you old yes or no
hello sir
Call me gramp
okay grandpa
I know it
ew wtf
I'm 17 
Good
Hi r u hairy
Im just 21 😂
strange
Why msg deleted
How's dat
Andrea in chat
me when I remember why I blocked someone
Maybe bc that is my age 😂
Bad andrea
How can y'all be so old
the way jannah ain’t figure it out yet
Wot
she's.. :D good...
someone said i was old enough to be their mom after telling them i was 20
Ong fr ily Ong I'm not alone I feel so loveable thx for saying dat so I don't feel alone anymore
bless her heart
Apparently it is
Okay great great granny settle down
it’s so isn’t
Im great great gramp
weren't you 15-
My mom is 32! That's not even making sense
Yes I'm 15!
17 do be wild to get kid
From 18 to like 20 smth like that.. idk




