#codm-discussion
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I want to 1v1 who is ready
idk then
āITāS BECAUSE OF THAT DAMN PHONE!!!ā
here ur name color changed , click on the symbol next ti ur name
how do i contact support for it ?
@coral trail u tryna 1v1 later?
thats the answer
Facts
now if you want
one more ?
at school rn unfortunately
ingame next to cp count on main menu
okay thank you
Ew it's veteran
np
i have photographic memory and it wasn't sending me any trigger that we did the 1v1 yesterday
Pls who is ready for 1v1
Do you tho do u
with headphones bro,you have good aim and movment
I could try
Kk
I want to test mk1 build
Letās go
you need headphones
āMom, I am feeling a little bloated rnā
āItās because of that darn phoneā
yeah
Kk
Send uid and I invite me
thanks but today i vas dogshit
no im not that rudeš¤
95SV74
im using them to listen something rn
wrong uid
Thatās not uid bro
He VAS dogshit
wanna retry?
Huh
bet
i am
bro i should be finishing that assginment
š
vhat am i doing
Itās Prijelo
i am
And I have to sleep now for college, lel.
What if u vasn't dog shit
Thatās your name Iām asking for uid because itās much more reliable
Iāll just send mine
Isnāt IGN enough already?
Wowwww
It doesnāt have letters and is much longer
Go to your profile and check for the ācopy UIDā option. Press it and paste it here, thatās all.
Wut?
not really
He begging for 1v1ās
DO NOT SHARE UR UID
U a snitch
DO NOT SHARE UR UID
if you have special characters in ur name (which most people do) itās not
DO NOT SHARE UR UID
Kk
u r fucked
6963619477561278465
L
fuck
I do what I want
Oh
You canāt get hacked by sharing uid dum dum
Guys don't ur driving him mad
can delete account
No
Sure, I donāt think this person here even knows Streamer mode is a thing.
Hmm kk
from activision site
Better safe than sorry, regardless
ty
Uid is literally public
Sorry @limber moth but youāre not the person I want to be destroyed by
he shared the other thing
So no 1v1
the 5 letter thing
the privacy id number thingy?
Why
oh yeah
What does it do
donāt share that
I hear
What does it dooo
bitro
from what i understand, if i have that, i can delete an account via activision support
M1216 and Rytec AMR (default magazine) have to be based weapon choices.
I think he a little brain impaired
i mean it clearly says do not share
1v1 me when?
hop on
Correct
Still doing launchers?
7418343018103242753
Iāve sent it
Iām eating rn
I hear
no i vas getting abused in 1v1
Lol
im almost done vith smrs
Huh?
Alr, back to grinding for myself
be fast
Where are u
Bruh
yes
you need headphones,you have potential
eat fasttt
I wish now
Weāll 1v1 later
Noš
maybe , if i play 1v1 all the time i mgiht get beetter and a good device as vell
ok
Sanji and Zoro 1v1ing? Interesting.
my in game name is zoro
Iām law
Why whatās it
God how load do you have to eat to hear trough discord 
Oh, I donāt read OP, mb.
So my ign will be luffy
7418343018103242753 this is my uid
ššš
nice
all my best clips I did them at 60fps,120 its 100 times better,maybe now 60 its bad cause there are better phones and everything,but you can still do a lot
Yes yes I sent friend request
Kk
exactly
the problem is like me,when you always play at 120fps,now for me 60fps feels like 40
Cook him
You can delete that now if you want to not risk yourself.
hmmmm anyvays
Because I asked for uid like five times and you provided everything else
Uid canāt get you hacked
He sent another id that could
Are u the DOOM
2
Yes
120 is 2 times better
Kk letās go
Ah, alright.
š¤āļø
Send room nvite
Letās go
Kk
You donāt say.
Same
anyone 1v1 weapons now?
Usually it's "snipers only".
there was somone from eu who picked a stick with me for saying mythic weapons r not broken and wanted to ivi me
i told him about u, he dmed me that i should ping him when u r around
Iām curious
i dont have the dm any more
G
room id
because they dont know how to use any other weapon
what region are you?
picked a stick means?
gаy
They're dumb. Mythic weapons aren't broke. "less aim shake" and a "built in red dot" are not P2W features.
he wanted to stick fight with me in real life
idk now,but before they were broken
They aren't. Never were.
J
If you think so, skill issue.
oh i missed u
im not saying it to change your opinion,im saying it cause its like that,I wont have a conversation or something about it
True. People just think having a mythic will make them better.
That's like arguing of air is real or not.
placebo effect ir scientifically proven
mythics make a man better
Money ā skill.
lol
Ma man James, how are you doing?
bro fuck school come 1v1š
I'm good, thanks.
u guys wana 1v1 1360989728
do YOU want a 1v1?
What happened to refrigerator79?
elo
if you find it show me
elimila tan
ffa kill house selected
wait a new gun C58 when base name gun codm Chiliko
u know very welli dint care...
Ask @rigid sage .
sniper or weapons
It's still my IGN.
u guys decide, we are watching
School is important.
you said you wanted a 1v1
Bruhš
me? 1v1? unseen wants to 1v1 u if u r interested
school is the pre lobby before coming home and playing codm
..for now. 
do you underestimate yourself?
damn
nah, i know i wil win
lik 20 0 win
if i want
but i dont give a shit
if you want
lets try
Sounds like @rare island
Who is down to a 1v1
smg and ar me
I hope that's the right one..
@coral trail
u want me to try giving a shit? ok, open ur mouth and say yes papa
C58 base bp as Prototype 1 epic skin season 4 and 5 2025
meow
lol i forgot who were you,why you changed your name
1209991481 smg and ar
we already 1v1ed I want new people
Empty
i changed my sens i need training
mty

wanna try with me?
Study
1v1 me later
1209991481

room id
Sandalo is also elite ig
mlem
click bait
Still better then me
I've never won a 1v1 in my life. Haven't even gotten legendary once. I'm total noob
hi Mikuuu
trolls
Fr
i spend my day among trolls
are you down for a 1v1?
I just wanna see if someone will actually take the bait lol
elite without reaching legendary
iāve won and lost like 50-50, but legend? no problem

wait
Because every second guy claims ti be noob
I never won a game in codm
Miku
hi
Completely noob
depends on time zone, wait till the school is out
i might have dropped
Pfft.
Nah I'm not beating kids. Their parents will complain
gotta add Sharky too
Lies. .
hahha
no 1v1?
I was trolling lol
How would you know
1209991481 who wants to try join,smg and ar
bro why you want to 1v1 me so much? whatās the point
we've played š
Sus
this is sandalo
Looking for BR comp players. DM me for more info
1 im trying a new sens 2 you are good that means there is some competition
^^
we can do an actual 1v1,fight
This better #1146179422072881266
competition? no competition here, i donāt have time to break your ankles
1v1 flashbang
Well I mean depends on if we're talking irl or in game.
it has happened , he is 1v1 ing himself now
Cause I can make an exception for the former
š§
iām currently watching Grendy
LMAOO i made him do it
What's a Grendy?
im watching you
Mlem
u used a tactial on him right?
Grendy is polish fivem streamer
stun yes

bro was pissed he got distraced cause of a tactical lollll
Watching the watcher
Ahhh alr gotcha
i no no like the idea
When watcher is watching the watcher watching the watcher
I actually don't have a miku stare emoji. Would've worked better for you
iām watching you every night
ok i gun game
one day you will find it š
Asta la pasta
no,he did a 1v1 sniper with a no main sniper after 3 years of not playing and he did 24-14
I could find it rn if I wanted to im just lazy ;-;

how is 3 yrs of not playing relevant
i started playing competitively 1 year ago only, i just found my sensitivity and settings, i still have decent aim
and you complain like iām playing this game since iām 1
you can create one in your own custom server there are some good ones on pinterest or other sites
he is finding himself excuses why he lost.

i can confirm athena has better aim then me
I recorded match here final kills
me nub maam
mty laughing inside his head while trying to make me mad
@grand gyro I've got enough
Nah I already run an emoji server I'm over making/adding custom emojis
i do it loud
me nuuber
you pro
I'm good , wby
nooooo me washed
Definitely not good stop the cap
Im being tortured


Why ?
what this lol
what happened while i was gone
riyal
Couldn't carry you ššš½
YeahI know Iām professional 
You missed prime loot goblin
I'm not there to get carried
@distant mantle
But I said I would 
I couldn't keep my words
Frš

Damnā¦.I really missed everything
I'm praying on that guy's downfall , sweaty mf in snd
Rando guy begged for 1v1 in chat and I was bored so I said yes
Turns out he was way worse than me. I didnāt think that was possible

yea and you are a main sniper using sniper movement,i dont know any of that
how many good players have u seen that ask for 1v1?
21 legendary is just crazy
how many good players have u seen that ask for 1v1?
this is now miku stare
I pray with you 
I hate sweats
Yep
He's the embodiment of unemployment 
dont say that bro,i will always regret not having 26 legendary but only 12,it gives me flashbacks
šÆ looks good
23 legendary in MP
18 legendary in BR
310k kills in MP
I have played like 4 1v1ās never completed nor won one before so I had no idea
Peak gameplay

Ty ty
He was good n all that but his toxicity was better than his gaming sense
Who?
with ur current game skill, do u think those were great players ?
23*
loool
Who?
Idk , some guy on enemy team , don't remember the name
He also had skins from season 1
A sweat we met in a game
We met a lot of sweats today
Irritating

š
I hate to admit but he was good and that makes feel very defeated 
would you like a 1v1 weapons?
How could you be good at a game and also good at trash talking 
Pick one , don't be greedy
What 
me in my primeš«”
Arenāt sniper and melees weapons?
ykwim
It's alright it's alright we'll get revenge someday
I did a fucking savage 1v3 in snd but sadly I wasn't recording š
hope he stubs his toe
I like how some enemies insult a melee abuser of my team, even though there are some in their team too. Hapened to me in SnD today.
Donāt tell me š.
Buttman trashtalked?
1v1 smg and ar,me and you
Not buttman , sweat in enemy team
Well from my extremely limited experience definitely not
I remember last time
I think it was right after SP tournament
I got randomly invited to 1v1 and he immediately switched to uss9 after dying to me 2 times
I was using Merc combat ring the fastest character in all of codm and before buffs raal
When I left It was 13/12 me being 13 I think
He was definitely not good
I was holding the hp alone as a sniper and 3 mfs pushed me, spammed me with flash + moltov + melee 
He was trash talking?
I'm just a pookie I don't trash talk fr
No
ššš
why?
Because I don't want to 
He only plays sniper
Time to eat victory orange
Tell them how bonita I am
Weird how it took them nearly 6 years to add one of the more important supporting characters in the Black Ops series

Hater
Ogae
Literally me lol
1v1 me when?
Born to be 
and you still ask for a 1v1 weaponsš¤š¤
but doesn't have unique voicelines

Bro gonna vent game frustration by hating
Hatsune
bro can you do me a favor?
namttuB
a sniper is a weapon.
I don't think he's into men
That's me
Iām down later today
Bored67 is so ass š
You know bored? Where is he?
reported
What?
Nearly not that high
Jackson
Give them a couple months to a couple years, they eventually gave David, Woods, Richtofen and Dempsey for example their own lines
What mode are you queuing?š
daily win bonus š¤
ah that makes sense then
For some reason, no one likes Control
i'm not like that
u think too highly of me
Reported? Yes.
Deported? Also yes.
Anyone got an account for sale. Please send a dm am buying. Is this allowed here ?
No not allowed
Not allowed. Both by server and by Activision
And that business is full of scammers
So have very high likelihood of losing account or money
i found a pubg clip where I was screaming after two kills and it makes me laugh,can you send it here?
Me can send
That sounds really funny
its cause the scream is reallt authentic,it always makes me laugh
š§ zamn
Just dm me and I post with @
lets see if @quaint heath wants,it would be rude to send it directly to you
I donāt want it
Im saying you dm it to me and I can post it here for you since you donāt have perms
How should it be rude?
A friend message isnāt rude
meow
i ask you and after some seconds i send it to him so he can send it here
Oh ok
Np
I was playing some snd
whos stephan
imo this is rude
Idk I didnāt see text
can you now?
Yep
Youāre too damn educatedš
its respect bro
Iām confusion
You wanted help posting video
But it would be rude for anyone other than Jack to do it??
Cuz he asked me first
i give it when someone gives it to me(like you)
Ok
I donāt see any problem innit but for bro itās rudeš
@coral trail Clip
it is if i do it without waiting for your answer
š«”
No scream š
Frš
i dont think i have the full clip of the first one lol
but it lasted at least 3 seconds
I thought it was going to happen a too damn loud scream
I thought it was gonna be like this
ā ļø Loud videoā ļø
The Bruen's pretty fun
it was something like that in my 7 kill feed on bo2,but had nothing to record the exact moment
Wsg monkeys
do you want a 1v1?
mlem
Nothing much what about you gorilla?
I got my eardrums blown out by this video earlier today
I had been listening to music on my way to school so I had my volume turned up and that was the first video when I opened reddit
Nah I just got off
sad
Very
Howd you reach master⦠i was gone for like a month
Ive been here for over a year
Yapping a shit load
i might make a big ass edit of all my best clips,but it will take a whileš
Istg you were like veteran or smth in january
Im professional yapper
I used to do that a couple years ago, it was pretty fun 
Makes sense
12+ hour $25K BR PRACTICE STREAM lfg
i would have to take all the usbs and clouds and see what i could include in that edit and I dont want to,i have too many clips
??
my man
Iām gonna edit my 1v1 into kill comp
yeah,me too,making actual edits with transitions and things like that takes too much time,too much
im gonna be playing br for 12+ hours
not at all been at it since 2019 Trovo days
Nothing worth wile is easy.
there is one and only one edit i regret losing the file to
i will post it in the codm clips
I have returned
So close, yet so far 
Why do you regret losing it?
No u donāt
Yeah I failed going to bed finally found a good video to watch and now I have to finish watching it
Hello there people
I got it today
i dont have the full edit anymore,only that
shiiii
i just did a 1v1 with a guy
18-17 for me( i did the last kill last second)
i asked him if he wants to do more 1v1s when im on
finally a good enemy
Oops.
i only do 1v20s
im a thumbs player bro :/
I left codm for a week or so to play bee swarm and I already lost all my game sense š
Not on my prime anymore š
just drink some
Some what
Yo ppl
Whatās bee swarm?
And donāt worry it comes back quick just give it a few games
Grindy ass game
Show pic
Ditto.
No perms and it's roblox
Bee swarm is peak
Like Kanye
Ayo?
No, he won't buy you a BP or CP.
JAMES
That's not the thing
Sure
I'm doing the smrs gold
Can u call UAVs and play ffa with me so I can destroy them ?
Mine is š.
Cuz it's so hard to find someone to do that
Good for u
For Damascus you need to get gold on every pistol and launcher too?
Yes I can if he just shows me credit card numbers
Play the 10v10 on Rust mode.
Ez lick ahh
Yeah hell nah
Leme try that rq
I'm not doing allat
Play shipment hard point ezpz
Real
Played 4 today
Ez pickens
Surprisingly nobody used that
Yes alll weapons
Btw I missed u james
I'm falling behind like McQueen in cars 3 ngl
No more prime :(.
Prime lasted 3 seasons or sth
I recommend grinding a gun and just getting uav as they come along
Use shock-rc too
If u have skill issues
I would do but yk I am like focused on getting launchers first no matter what
Hear me out. Cryo bomb and molly
Well I highly recommend doing it along the way at least for uav mission
On the hardpoint
Not many UAVs in that mode. Just clusters and sworms.
What's a molly? Isn't that a drvg?
Molotov.
Molotov
But yes, also that.
Ye that way I let it happen over time
Instead of focusing
And ur teammate throw a smoke on cryo bomb and molly
16 more games for diamond ZRG..
I always use molly 
You š«µš½
I know you
Ew.
I use cryo and sticky
Cryo for kills and sticky for reset if I run out of bullets
Vulture:
Now guess which molly I'm talking about
Unlocking gold is all fun and nice
Unlocking diamond is pain in ass
No...
The one in the juice world songs?
Na cold blooded I hate dying to score streaks when Iām grinding
90/150 for my amax, sigh
I use vulture for every Loadout except lmgs,snipers
meow
I'm 100 shards deep and I'm 15 days behind š
Much easier to just die imo
All amo and grenades back immediately
I have no idea lol
I have it and I like it
And it looks really cool with diamond
I have a auav and its a better quick fix
Never gonna use it. Just gonna collect dust
I found diamond to be easy.
Gotta be pretty boring tho
Right?
Mine too, once it's diamond it's never seeing the light of day
Amax isn't meta
Same but gold rn
Nor good
Grinding for Damascus
Do they know what grass is?
No
I don't need a gun to be meta before I use it, that just makes the game extremely boring
Never heard of it
This is nothing
173k is nothing?
I use type 19 like a smg and it's fun
Try bee swarm š
On roblox
Spoiler alert: type 19 is meta
Like you'll need to dedicate 1 year of your life to finish that game
Never playing that
Yup I know.
Switch to PC
Same but grinding for Damascus im pretty sure im close to a year of grinding now
Problem:
I don't have one.
But I havenāt been doing it constantly
Sob
Besides ion know much about pcs
Only GPUs CPUs rams motherboard that's it
Damn, mine took me 3-ish months
Nah is it me or the raid map starting to look like the PC version
Kinda. Unless you grind diamond on primaries in S&D..
Well idk when I started so it might not been a year
But I definitely havenāt been grinding for it constantly
1 gun per day and you'll be fine, trust
I know
Bruh I just got my assassination stolen BY A BOT. Nerf the bots PLEASE
whats the best gunsmith for maddox anyone got suggestions?
Getting my assassination stolen by a bot is just not acceptable. They need to nerf the bots.
complaining about ai cause of person skill issues is trending
in and outside the game
Skill issue
Lmao nerfing bots, go play against AI in any of the older CoD games then you'll know how annoying they get
I'll tell ya' after this game.
Poggers.
no u
My build is: monolithic, .45 tac long, 20 round mag, lightweight trigger, slight of hand.
I was muted. Why, I dunno.
Just a week.
For That Long Huh.. Mustve Been An Induced One Or A Crazy BlackListed Word.
I was trolling.. according to the warning I got 5 hours later.
Interesting...
Very.
Glad T'Have You Bacc Thou!
ty ty.
Poggers.
Definetly you. Not me.
Opposite.
..and opposite.
Agree To Disagree-
Mhm.
NeatO!~
NeatOH
Rarely.
Waddoyou Use Mainly? As A Primary-
LK24 last season via Krai. I got to 47 regional LB and 10K+.
@hard olive i found your pfp finally
I could have told you were to find it.
it is in pinterest
Misdirection.
Pro++. Noted.
but im not gonna use it
james whats ur 'mp opers skill?
Lately, Ammo box.
next
None really.
k
i cicly amo / tak
tak for ranked, amo for pub
skil issues
need team mates to carry me
meow
Tak5? Only really good if the entire squad has it.
Oh, maybe K9.. I know, I know..
oh
its fine i dont want to use it either
Says no access.
Yes. IO
Yes, I'm legendary, without image perms.
grab either ios or android role and check again
Same thing.
hmm
They're separate roles.
Oi..
I see what you mean.
There. All fixed.
Thanks, @languid spade
np
@quick cape I was in the process of assassinating a camper, and a teammate bot of mine came to kill him mid assassination. Please do fill me in on how thatās a skill issue. (Please do note that killing a teammate is impossible.)
exewcution is a waste time
appreciate the bot helping u
@sonic mantle That link in the bottom left.
while u were executing and enemy was gona snipe u, the bot saved u
And that somehow makes it okay for a bot to be able to steal my assassination. Got it. Makes 100% sense.
whats wikipedia doing with pfps 
It's just a file.
i see
It is I
No itās not a waste of time. Itās disrespectful towards the camper, and thatās worth every single second.
When i get the nitro ill apply it HERE only
IT IS I
hi free xp
bruh you donāt know that. thatās a wild amount of assuming right there
Hi kumi

i was executing in gun game .. i understand , still . do not diss the bots
maybe maybe not
have u nevver sniped an enemy trying to assasinate ur teammate?
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
Why whats wrong
why? do you have a personal relationship with them or something?
i have to do sum work for tommorow and didn't start :3
Ahhh, what the f are u waiting for then
Cmon get on that work
good idea
I was behind my enemy in the room with the ladder on express. There was only one other sniper on their team, so I was safe. Even if I had been sniped, it would have been better than getting my kill stolen by my teammate bot.
may be , next time, be more aware of ur team mates and their locations
ez
dont execuite around a bot, they dont like it.
1 more week for the switchblade to comeeee
mythic coming back?
i think it had initially come in march too...
The bot climbed up the ladder after me. I didnāt even know the bot was there. I was only focused on getting the camper.
What?
see thats the problem, u were only focused on 1thing and ignored ur surrounding, the bot probably saved u from a nuke
It is coming on the 20th, codm twitter account confirmed it long ago
Hi
Im so readyyy to get it
i think the switchblade , the first time it came out, was march of some year. may be wrong.
how ready ?
Not sure tbh
like special dress?
I'm too lazy to check lod
To not be used
Im so tempted to use those cp but hell no I aint
I wanna get that switchblade
No money
Big brain moment.
April then
So very much
Ello James
The bot was walking like 5-10 meters behind me. I wasnāt even trying to assassinate before climbing the ladder, I just wanted to kill the camper. I donāt see why I should be looking out for my teammate bot while rushing to kill my enemies?
Bro still has a grudge against the bot
apparently the BOT, agrees.
love it
love every data bit of it
chatGPT understands me frfr
yep, bots feel for other bots.
bro I havenāt assassinated in so longš
they understand each others emotions.
Yo.
Seems like youre talking seriously serious about a serious topic.
what could I have done better that would not mark me a bot? please explain
Your favorite MW11 blueprint? Go.
Hm
Holidays
I have that. What else?
I kinda like the one from the SX9 mythic draw
Neon shuriken
Color spectrum
Bear trap
Though it sounds a lot like youāve run out of arguments though, so donāt stress it. Itās all good.
Neon shuriken
Is that real racing 3?
Thats good too
I have:
Color Spectrum
Nuclear Fallout
Living Rust
Beekeeper
Serpentine
Chevaliier
Bear Trap
Holidays
Cosmos
Circuit Board
Mire
Quartz
Rogue Intel
Standard Issue
Blast From The Past
Neon Shuriken
Anniversary
Fallen Royal
Noir
Greater Spiral
as ChatGPT said, In the grand scheme, thereās not a ton you couldāve done to prevent it other than possibly adjusting your angle or waiting a few moments longer.
Weird flex but okay?
Was this all just to try and flex?
Not flexing.
Legendary mw11 next season
Only your little mind would assume such crap.
Shark bite I'm on the fence about.
U litterally mentioned every mw11 blueprint
I wanna see which on people think I should use for my diamond grind.
I really like it.
I don't think you know what the word "literally" means.
Smart mouth aint you one
Then go shove it up ur bum
No. Just stating facts.
I liked neon shuriken for the grip. Idk why. Also like beekeeper and bear trap

1: if I waited, the bot would still climb the ladder and kill him.
2: Bots usually donāt steal my kills. I do not remember the last time I got my kill stolen by a bot.
3: I was not playing with a team.
4: I still have not accepted the kill steal. Nerf the bots.
I even have a bear trap charm to go with it.
Chill bruh chilllll
- K
- K
- K
- K
I dig that one too. Any with any change that effects diamond camo, I like it.
Nice
I missed out on jaw cracker
Not a lot I couldāve done, huh? Wow, how interesting! I guess itās not my fault after all then!
Where's that from?
I won.
to c hat gpt i go
o.O
Are you having a stroke?
Oh, and I got the legendary C4 while I was gone too. So that's cool.
bruh what do you expect me to do when this dude says itās a skill issue for me when a bot steals my kills while Iām assassinating? Make it make sense
oh god not again
Blow it off? It's not like anyting said here actually matters.
He just playing with you?
Ah, nice.
it BP?
Makes sense, because thereās no way I was at fault.
Dame..
Wasn't a contest.
K = don't care
what happens if i feed this channel to chatgpt?
Try
I leave the channel
I can't ignore it. The bots are still overpowered and need to be nerfed or modified to prevent them from stealing kills during assassinations.
You can ignore it because it doesn't matter.
Youāre not even a part of the argument.
K
It's a public chat, dingus.
In game, and life
Idk I never had any issues with the bots in codm
I am talking about ppl with skill issues
Who needs upgrades
@james of course, but this doesnāt really make you a part of the argument. It just makes you look petty and childish.
killing a camper with the back turned away? yeah for sure man thatās so hard
If it was easy you could have done it
Should
Apparently it was not easy enough for you
For you
except I was trying to assassinate.
cus of the bot. I could have easily killed him.
if I wanted to
Whatās your problem with me?
Exactly so why are you trying so hard to win an argument that is impossible to win
