Blood Fan adjustment

[stuck sundial]

I would like to bring attention to the current state of the Blood Fan compared to the Crystal Fan. While the Blood Fan is positioned as an endgame weapon alongside the Sukarabe and Nitoryu, its performance doesn't reflect its difficulty of obtainment.

-Obtainment: The Blood Fan costs 250k Ryo and requires defeating one of the final bosses in the Land of Iron. The Crystal Fan costs only 5k Ryo.

-Damage & Speed: The Blood Fan offers only +3 damage more than the Crystal Fan and a slightly higher attack speed, which is a negligible upgrade for the price gap. (0.3 snare vs 0.5)

-Stat Bonuses: This is the biggest issue. The Crystal Fan provides +3 Agility and +3 Fortitude (+6 stats total). The Blood Fan only provides +2 Fortitude, making it a worse "stat stick" despite being endgame.

-Lifesteal: The lifesteal effect (healing ~7 HP per hit with 80 STR) is currently too low to be impactful.

Both weapons require 80 Strength, but the reward for obtaining the Blood Fan is disproportionate to the effort and cost. It currently feels underwhelming compared to other endgame alternatives. I suggest at least looking into it.

(Not a bad weapon, i just think could be more viable)

[scenic oxide]

GG @stuck sundial, you just advanced to level 6!

[rare bridge]

The price are player made , 1 of these fans drop from mob that you dont even need to wait for them to respawn , the other fan drop from a boss that respawn every 10min both drop in the end game area

[stuck sundial]

That's one of the hardest weapon to get, and not even close to be one of the best ones.

[toxic fjord]

How good is life steal vs bosses?

[stuck sundial]

100% irrelevant.

[toxic fjord]

Really was kinda interesting in that fan but nitoryu was easy to craft

[sleek python]

its decent if you are getting hit often but nitoryuu is currently so unbalanced for pve there is no reason to use anything else (in solo farming)

[sleek python]

I'd love to see blood iron become a 100str fan and receive compensation in damage
its currently extremely weak dmg wise compared to a lower level fan in nitoryuu and the lifesteal effect is ineffective in both pve and pvp
sharing the same requirement as crystal also is another reason it will remain weaker as the requirement is too low to justify diverse buffs/reworks

[toxic fjord]

nitoryuu maybe to strong

[sleek python]

this too but blood iron was considerably nerfed when they reworked all the weapons with it only having a +3 dmg gap on crystal which used to be a roughly 7 dmg gap by base meaning it was actually worth the investment as this was also before nitoryuu so it was the highest damage fan meaning it was a good capstone if you prefered damage over sukas stun.

[stuck sundial]

Fan kit deals have no damage in it.
Something like nito is needed as an option. Worst homing in the game, worst scaling in the game, high overall chak costs, wind mask have only a pvp use, almost useless in pve. Nito helps close the gap with the lack of damage we have in the kit.
Blood fan is just bad for no reason, that's the difference.

[sleek python]

Fan does not lack damage, it lacks burst but that does not detract from the fact that yes blood iron is in a weaker state at the moment but that is mostly due to its requirement not allowing for a higher buff alongside nitoryuu making all fans obsolete in terms of dmg, on default requirement I hit harder with nitoryu then I do on 200str with blood iron

we need both buffs to blood iron and adjustments to nitoryuu

[toxic fjord]

gimme a stronger version of oriental fan and ill be happy T.T

[sleek python]

we had one, it was called sukarabe xd
erox thought it wasn't unique enough so he made it a stun fan

suka on launch was 6 more base then blue fan at the time, and 2 more tile range, and was .5 faster

[stuck sundial]

Man if they nerf nito imma quit fan all together ngl, that's the only satisfying fan to play.
I think we should have all the end game fans similar in strength.

[sleek python]

which is why nitoryuu needs some adjustments, its far too strong for its requirements so either nerf dmg or move requirements

[toxic fjord]

Yes lets put piercing on blood iron fan and keep life steal🥰 get massive hp return in pve
oi why do i have a 5min slowmode
and i wouldnt be suprise if they remove cancel from fan melee and keep the kb

[stuck sundial]

I belive Nito is fine.
Just make blood viable.
Almost no one has sukarabe, so I don't really have an option on that.
A end game expensive weapon should be good. Like blood pipe kraken hammer ecc...

[sleek python]

I mean almost no one has suka because its still somewhat newer in the grand scheme and until recently was on an extremely annoying boss to farm
nitoryuu is everywhere cause it literally takes a week to get the best in slot fan
Blood iron does need an overhaul though, like I said make it 100str and change its base damage to better suit it.
just have to wait and see what they are cooking up as they have been overhauling fans consistently but its quite hard to argue with someone on nerfing or buffing their class as usually there is heavy bias