#Do not take our community discords away

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tepid bluff
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Please do not take our community servers away from us.

Why we the Players Would Oppose Official Moderation of Player-Created Village Discords

  1. Loss of Community Autonomy:
    Player-created village Discords are built and managed by the players themselves. They reflect the unique culture, rules, and social dynamics of each village. Handing control or moderation to official moderators risks stripping communities of their self-governance, undermining the sense of ownership and pride that members feel.

  2. Erosion of Player Creativity:
    Many villages have their own RP traditions, creative events, and lore that are organically developed. Official oversight often imposes uniform rules and standards, potentially stifling the creativity and personal expression that make each village special.

  3. Trust and Cultural Disconnect:
    Official moderators may not understand the nuances of each village’s social structure or RP expectations. They might enforce rules inconsistently or without context, creating friction between the players and the game’s management. Communities built over years could be disrupted by outsiders imposing authority.

  4. Fear of Overreach and Censorship:
    Players may worry that official moderation could lead to unnecessary censorship or over-policing of discussions. Private conversations, inside jokes, or sensitive roleplay content could be flagged or removed simply because it doesn’t fit a corporate standard.

  5. Deterrent to Community Engagement:
    Part of the appeal of these Discords is the safe, player-driven space where users feel free to discuss, organize, and roleplay without interference. Introducing official oversight could make members hesitant to participate, fearing repercussions for minor infractions or miscommunications.

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  1. Fragmentation of the Community:
    If some villages accept official moderation and others resist, it could create a divide in the player base, fostering resentment and tension. Players might even abandon villages that feel “controlled” and migrate to smaller, unofficial spaces, weakening the overall community.

  2. Historical Precedent:
    Gaming communities that have experienced corporate takeover of fan-run spaces often see a decline in engagement and trust. Players value spaces that are curated by peers, not by company representatives who may prioritize brand image over the player experience.

In short, official moderation risks alienating the very players who built and maintain these vibrant village communities. The appeal of these spaces is that they are player-owned, player-run, and shaped by the creativity and social bonds of the community, not by corporate oversight.

hard vine
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Community outreach and advertising has been nearly exclusively done by players. I don't see the purpose in trying to strong arm the player based communities into official channels or get banned as a result of promoting servers that have overwhelmingly benefitted the game and the person making money off the game. It comes across as a slap in the face right as a new "season" is starting when people's hopes are highest.

tepid bluff
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Please everyone add your statements and point of views! Give this all the traction it needs!

echo shard
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#FreedomForCommunityDCServers

wraith coral
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I think you're all pessimistic and should have nothing to fear from proper moderation.

hard vine
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They can have their official discord servers without threatening to ban everyone who uses the discords that have been around for years or at least a year, promoting the game, operating entirely independently, and responsible for more prolonged player activity than any event, any content drop that the game has released since I started in 2024. It's a completely unnesscary move with little to no communication besides "Just do it". Hitspark needs to hire a community manager because this is absolutely ridiculous and entirely avoidable.

whole helm
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I’m not very good at being formal so I’m just gonna be straight up with it, makes no sense to try and take over player created and player driven discords especially for a game whose heart and blood are the player communities. I’m someone who returned to the game on steam release and was very happy to find a cool community to be a part of which is what has been the main reason for me choosing to continue to play the game, community is what makes games like this good long term it’s the core of what makes MMO’s such a great experience

lament river
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I would assume legality, if they are adding discord buttons in-game, they don't want it to be a discord they can't moderate.

wispy tendonBOT
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GG @lament river, you just advanced to level 6!

rain mango
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Being honest I had a multi-paragraph thing written. But I think it’s just word vomit.

I just very recently started into this game and being honest. It was the player driven community aspect that drove me to want to play more. The game is wonderful in my opinion. But an MMO is exactly that. Multiplayer. People join them for guilds, people, social things. And that’s what I’ve seen and found here. Three villages that are like their own living breathing entities, and that’s what makes me want to get leveled, to explore the game and see what it’s got.

I had an amazing experience when I first started because a completely random player took me under their wing and helped me farm until I could choose a mastery, then helped me pick one I would like. Since then I’ve played missions that led me into silly scenarios with other players, getting caught and questioned and so many other things. The one thing they all share is that it was the interactions with others that made it so unique, and so fun.

The community discords fostered that community growth that I’ve loved seeing and taking part in, and I truly can’t say that anything that would restrict that, would be beneficial for the people. But this is just my point of view as a newbie.

echo shard
wraith coral
# echo shard show me any mmo that does not let the community discord exist, WoW or ffxiv is a...

Every mmo you just listed has properly moderated officially owned discords where you'll get banned for dropping slurs and the like. In order to get anywhere further into the game you need to join the village discord. But these discords are extremely unmoderated and ultimately will lead to awful experiences to new players.

You want the game to grow? Important things should be kept properly moderated and owned by the company that owns the game.

All I'm seeing are people who don't want to see growth or positive change. It's unfortunate.

whole helm
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If there’s one thing gamers in general don’t like, is corporate encroaching on it’s players freedom

weary blade
ruby sparrow
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Where is it quoted that people are going to be forced to use the official medium?

I didn't see anything about banning people for being in a community discord

whole helm
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They can make an official discord, that’s not the problem.

The problem is the attempted take over of the already established player created, maintained, managed, and refined community discords

wraith coral
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They didnt attempt to take over anything they told you either this can be the "official" one or else you can't advertise said unofficial discord as the "official" One lol

hard vine
whole helm
ruby sparrow
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Okay I see now the direct message everyone is talking about and it sounds like you are referring to "Village leadership may not require or encourage players to join any non-official village servers. Any reports of such behavior will result in removal of roles and in-game disciplinary actions for the offenders."

I can see your point of view that this wording makes it appear like they are going to be punishing people who speak about any discords within the community, and I truly hope that it not the case. I think the admins/devs need to go back and rework these rules to not accidentally alienize those that want to continue inviting people to their player made communities.

I do believe their overall goal is to keep events and in-game happenings more closely tied to the official game mediums rather than a mostly unmoderated one that people are required to join in order to participate in certain in-game events. I can kind of see both sides to this situation.

pine prawn
# wraith coral Every mmo you just listed has properly moderated officially owned discords where...

They have that discord, we are having this discussion on the exact discord you are speaking about. Never before in any MMO I have played, have I needed an official discord of the game. The only reason im in the main nin discord, is for trade chat and the in game bonus. This discord has provided me with nothing that has actually assisted me as a new player, everything that actually has, can be found in my Village's discord though.

If you wanna see growth of the game, push for guides and things that will help new players in this discord first, THEN we can talk about them wanting to fragment communities within not just their game, but the villages these players reside in.

whole mist
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Dumb.

That's all.

onyx totem
stable trench
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this a mmo, gotta let the players make they own community and enjoy the foundations that been set for almost a decade, hunting and raiding a big thing in this game and if any dude can come to any village discord and leak stuff that takes the fun outta of it!

or if u a RPer and some dude that hates ur village comes jus to spread hate than like thats a bummer yk let the people have they spots

thick wigeon
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If they need to have an “official” discord that they can put a join badge for in the game, or whatever, I say let them have it. Unless of course, they’re planning on taking down and/or scrutinizing the already made community ran discord servers. Then that’s a bit uncalled for imo.

marsh kernel
pale goblet
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The answer is NO I'd rather raise hell than bend the knee to the mods

wanton trellis
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just dont officially support the village discords, they're separate to the game mechanics and not an intended or supported part of the official game

problem solved, what happens in those discords is now unaffiliated with hitspark and not their problem, same as any unofficial community server for any game

the realistic outcome is that the currently unified village discords will just fracture into a disorganised mess of other unofficial servers, all you achieve by encouraging that is breaking up the community, forming cliques, and making it harder to keep organised

hollow sand
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If I remember correctly, the last time a village was moderated by a staff mod, the villagers was held at ransom; and had to create a whole new village discord to play and communicate freely as a village. By experience alone, that is a bad idea.

tepid bluff
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Not to mention, most of the games good traction and promotion has been coming from these villiage discords and the members.

wispy tendonBOT
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GG @tepid bluff, you just advanced to level 1!

tepid bluff
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The system that the players have put in place, has flaws, absolutely but its a system that has been drastically improving every year thanks to the veteran and active members within our communities.

The Medical Corps, in all Villages from my understanding are amazing, and interactive and organized.

Our Police force may need work but they are just as Organized if not a little understaffed all around.

Our Members over the span of this games existence not only assisted the development of this game with our feedback but shaped the communities into 3 existing and Active entity's.

onyx totem
tepid bluff
hollow sand
# onyx totem The community is the only reason this game isn't dead if we are being real. Most...

Spot on. Witnessed mods ganging up on and helping their friends; for instance, there could be a back and forth, and the one who isn't their friend or familiar will get the warning or punishment, meanwhile, the friend/familiar continues to be passive aggressive. Atleast in these discords, the village is moderated by the village administration - like it should be.
I remember GMs made a point they did not want to be involved in village politics and such, which sounds like a back pedal; if creating village discord moderated by staff.

tepid bluff
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I won't lie, I expected my words to go on death ears when I posted this because Im only 3 weeks into the game myself.

Even though that's the case, Im proud of those who decided to make Voices heard here. Whether or not our Voice make a difference

Is ultimately and sadly up to the GM's however To the Shinobi who spoke here.

Your awesome.

onyx totem
# hollow sand Spot on. Witnessed mods ganging up on and helping their friends; for instance, t...

Yea, I've seen the same countless times. Old players who are friends with the mods will gang up on someone new and if the person responds in kind they get warned or muted. Also, seen a lot of people muted/banned for behavior that is allowed 90% of the time, but they did it when someone was in a bad mood so they get muted/banned. The biggest complaint outside of lack of end game content I see from players is about inconsistent and biased moderation.

hollow sand
tepid bluff
hollow sand
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tepid bluff
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Im glad to hear that. I really am.

pallid lava
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No dev should try to limit community interaction, if you want to provide an "official" place for discourse is appreciated but thinking you can do it better just because you ban the alternative is crazy. If you make something good people will flock to it anyways and stop using the community made one if truly was not necessary. Don't know what was the idea behind this but I would just make channel in this discord for every village and keep the community discords, so new players have everything in one place and people that want or feel the need to interact more can join community ran discords. Never censor people ideas, guide them to a new one.

blazing spindle
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Yall doing way to much, there is a reason why more people talk in the player made village discords then here, half the mods are bias, and pick and chose who they "warn" or "ban" . Village made discord were made for the players by the players, dont take it away from us

round quarry
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I hope these loser mods can take over the discord js so i can spam @ them and talk shi

tepid bluff
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Let's not be like that. We can state our disagreements logically, but let's not call them names and treat them like crap.

It defeats the purpose. When we just want to get our point across.

clever cliff
dull nebula
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Moderation is dog shi here anyways, I had to leave at one point because a guy was blatantly racist and got away with a "Hey, you shouldn't do that."

blazing spindle
frank flint
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Im going to be transparent here. Attacking the GMs is wrong, at the end of the day Rory is the one who makes the final decision.

As someone in a position of leadership currently, we were approached and told we had free reign and would not have moderation oversight from GM/Dev.

I was concerned about protecting the privacy and conversations between villagers. We all make crass jokes, let personal information to our friends, and love to curse.

Shortly after the guideline posted said that if we promote any server thats not the official one then leadership would lose their positions and be punished.

Exactly what we feared happened mere hours after being told it wouldn't happen.
The GMs dont have to agree with what the Dev wants, theyre force to uphold whatever standards the Dev wants.

I was told things wouldn't be a certain way then immediately the Dev changed what was offered and imposed a moderation on Leadership that could result in us not only losing our positions but our accounts.

I immediately went to speak with the GM and they clarified that it is only Village Discords and not Guilds or Clans.

I asked for it to be clarified and fixed to not say any discord. They did not respond yet.

You tell me, how is this not a sign of ill will?

dull nebula
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Aside from the clear intentions of exerting unusual control over an autonomous public space, the previous experience of a staff member having control on village faction discord and clan discords didn't end well enough for us to try this again.

One past experience with such an experiment was enough. This is a community driven game, nin would otherwise have almost null reasons to withhold new or old players if not for the autonomy in community and community driven spaces.

frank flint
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I wont say too much else as I don't know how much I risk speaking of the matter but I will say this.

If the Dev easily went against his word about allowing us to have full autonomy when they dont own the servers then what stops them from changing their mind when they do?

Ill answer it for you:

Nothing

rose veldt
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Would this apply to guild discords as well? Edit: I just read Kazashi's post. Sorry

tepid bluff
strange canyon
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It doesn't kazashi just said that

crimson oasis
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I like the drama here

ember bolt
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i give it 3 business days before this post gets locked

crimson oasis
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I understand the use for "Official Village Channels" that are new player friendly, and not "toxic" ,

BUT

... in what world can you ban players, for making their own channels, lol what in the dictatorship is, this , I doubt Rory would ban players for making their own discord channels, God I hope not, thats bs

rose veldt
tepid bluff
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Thank you for your statements, and honestly that's all we want.

blazing spindle
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This tbh

stoic gull
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It’s like Kaguya Otsutsuki trying to take control of the whole ninja world, erasing the villages unique cultures and identities.

whole mist
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We have our village roles in this discord. If you want so badly, Make 'official' village channels that are obtained when you claim one in this discord. This keeps people from spying too because you can only have one village role here. Claim them as the official one. And then watch how it's almost never talked in, compared to our community driven ones.

The community driven servers are so sick because every village becomes even more it's own. They have their own lore. Their own political and social landscape. It's one thing that the game mechanics of villages differ and set them apart, but because of our servers, we even have different cultures between villages. And that's freaking rad. We have built different societies and communities in each village. But when you start putting people under a microscope - they shell up and be withdrawn.

Restricting our space will only restrict our growth. And the communities growth and that sense of community is what makes this game glisten. Anything to break player trust ain't it. And it's clear how players feel about this one.

hollow sand
hollow sand
long night
ruby sparrow
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You choose to nitpick at my typos and wording rather than focus on the context of my point. I'm saying that I understand that the devs wording can come off as threatening to the community village discords and their proposed rules need to be reworked. I completely understand the panic around this. But I also understand why they would approach the village leaders and request to turn what players already view as the official servers, into the official ones. I've seen bullying go on in these communities that can't be moderated, slurs, and erp logs posted in the presence of minors. Yet we are told we're required to join these to participate in important in game events such as the chinin exams. So I absolutely will defend what they are trying to do, as long as they don't ban players for talking about their private communities.

wispy tendonBOT
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GG @ruby sparrow, you just advanced to level 2!

balmy leaf
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thank you c:

tepid bluff
# ruby sparrow You choose to nitpick at my typos and wording rather than focus on the context o...

Vayn, I understand what your trying to say, and honestly I agree, but this is the type of response we need to hear from them.. not from you. The wording did scare us, it upset us and we need them to properly clarify the meaning of what they want for us to accept it.

Its not that we won't accept what they say, we just want it stated in a way that is not miscommunicated like it has appeared to have been.. we need to hear it from them.

I would support this idea from them but I can't support the fact they want to take away what the player base made by force in the end no matter what..

Does that make sense?

You make good points but we want to hear those good points and understand from them.

ruby sparrow
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That does make sense and I agree with you there

dusk ermine
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bring back asoki teleport instead of trying to control faction discords!

tepid bluff
ruby sparrow
tepid bluff
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I will state one thing though, with the three Villiages PVP fighting and PVP crap talking lol, if this is something that unifys the three banners of community we should be proud of that.

That means that we have members of each community willing to keep the Devs accountable for the words they make and the actions they take.

Good Job Nin Community.

But try not to place your fellow Shinobi on blast, but try to patiently explain to them instead.

and don't cuss out the Devs either, they are trying to figure out the game they made, and it comes with failures and successes. But we can still keep them accountable in a logical, Civilized manner.

unique falcon
ruby sparrow
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You are required to join the village discord to participate in the event. At least the sand village chunin exams, which was my example.

ornate spoke
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Am I dumb or does this not seem like everybody is focused on the wrong problem?

I feel like the underlying issue being ignored is "What makes the feeling of joining the village discord mandatory?".

From what I understand, the devs feel like the village discord is mandatory and so they want to better streamline people there, but that carries an inherent expectation that the discord will be very similar to official / the game.

Can you not just offload these "mandatory elements" instead? From skimming this post, for instance, you have to be on the village discord to participate in the Chunin Exam. Why? It's fine to have community chat / a stream / whatever going in the village that adds to the experience. But can't whatever you need to participate at a bare minimum be offloaded to the main server?

Another example perhaps is events. I see no problem with managing signups and stuff like that mainly in the community discord. But is it really that big of a deal if there was a bot or some guy's responsibility to just crosspost events from the community server into an "official channel"

We have our village roles in this discord. If you want so badly, Make 'official' village channels that are obtained when you claim one in this discord. This keeps people from spying too because you can only have one village role here. Claim them as the official one.

What is the problem with this? It just seems like trying to entirely change multiple large active discords at one time is just going to lead to rebellion and chaos. But I feel like the problem trying to be solved here really has little to do with the active moderation of these sub-discords. That just feels like a catch-all solution.

Also why do they block me from changing my name but then there is nowhere good to verify or otherwise fix my name??!?! I just realized I am apparently "unverified" here and don't even know how. On the village discord I was verified pretty simply in a few hours.

ruby sparrow
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Very good point actually... reasonably this discord already exists and they can make village roles within it for sign ups etc, or somehow make it possible in-game or on the forums if they really wanted to. There isn't really a need for an external "official" village discord if they remove the elements that make it necessary to join.

ember bolt
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the real problem here is events not being fully automated ingame and still being partial rp events using discord as part of the process.
We should strive to go away from discord not invest more on it

hollow sand
# ornate spoke Am I dumb or does this not seem like everybody is focused on the wrong problem? ...

"Can you not just offload these "mandatory elements" instead? From skimming this post, for instance, you have to be on the village discord to participate in the Chunin Exam. Why? It's fine to have community chat / a stream / whatever going in the village that adds to the experience. But can't whatever you need to participate at a bare minimum be offloaded to the main server?"

You can be in none of the current village discords, and still take part in the CE provided you have a team, are not rogue and turn up to sign up on time - to all 3 villages. The village discords don't lock you out of participating with the village; it just makes things easier to keep up to date with the village happenings.

This is putting too much importance of how the discord functions - when it isnt really THAT deep.

tepid bluff
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The discord just makes organization easier for the Orgs & for the Guilds that don't wanna waste points on a Guild chat tbh

onyx totem
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If you had to be in a village discord to join CE they wouldn't be full of alts from other villages like they tend to be.

ornate spoke
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Events and the Chunin Exams are the two things that stood out to me as "missable when they shouldn't be" if you are a player who does not agree (for whatever reason) with the general tone of the unofficial discord(s) and you would prefer to remain in a moderated, "official" space. If there's anything else relevant, please bring it up.

The 'general' chat, giveaways, trading access, all this kind of stuff is secondary.

My interpretation is that there is enough of the former (features missable when they shouldn't be if you participate in the official and not the village servers) that there is strong enough incentive to try and dynamically change these community servers. They are already advertised ingame on the board, so presumably, there has been some level of investigation that would make them believe that's not a direct enough pathway.

If that is not the case, then isn't the sensible approach to try a carrot-on-a-stick before you go with the scorched earth method?

why not promote (have people vote, let the village leader appoint, use already trusted staff per village, whatever) 1-2 per village and put them in charge of so-to-speak "renovating" the village spaces available on this discord and making them more approachable and useful for new players? Consolidate guides or village specific tips into pinned notes, answer questions, relay events and information, maybe new player focused giveaways, whatever. Make them into what you want the community spaces to look like.

Link to the official server in game, verify people in their village ,and then have the main server village chat be the de-facto "new player starting space / safe space" that gives you everything you need at a base level. Then, the village community discords are basically a self-moderated "next step" for players who want to "go deeper" in a sense.

hollow sand
lament river
pale goblet
hollow sand
balmy leaf
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echo shard
granite harbor
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Tbh. Both sides are right. There is a lot of history in the community driven discords, so its not easy to just say goodbye to that.

At the same time there is a lot of gatekeeping to the village discords. For instance I rarely if ever see players in official corporations like ANBU or 7sm that are not a part of the village discords, which is wrong imo. Most of the time they can't even reach the leader of said corps without joining them.

I think the problems aren't with the community driven discords themselves, but rather the expectations of required "community" to engage in core game mechanics

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Gms often tell us players can only affect your game so much. But if there is someone that doesn't like you that has perms to a village cord, they can essentially lock you out of any meaningful gameplay in a village altogether. Leaning towards official village servers could be a good thing. There's more room for required verification, such as being required to link your account to discord to access and less room for gatekeeping players.

Stressful idea for change but theres positives and negatives to it

onyx totem
granite harbor
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I agree. Though given we know how timeframes for new systems work, enforcing an official discord is a more prompt band aid

hollow sand
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"Those who dont hear, must feel"

onyx totem
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Good way to also kill the game imo. Most ppl don't like interacting in this discord for a reason. You force offical village discords and they just become ghost towns like this discord. People don't like feeling like they have to tip toe around or risk getting banned.

safe cypress
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It's like every day the people in charge of this game think to themselves "How can I lose more players today"

hollow sand
echo shard
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nw guys i feel like the players ideas section is perma muted for devs and hidden by discord settings, i havent seen a single thing approved or denied since months

balmy leaf
ornate spoke
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At the same time there is a lot of gatekeeping to the village discords. For instance I rarely if ever see players in official corporations like ANBU or 7sm that are not a part of the village discords, which is wrong imo. Most of the time they can't even reach the leader of said corps without joining them.

When I first saw what these were thats how I assumed they would function based on how they are implemented. Honestly, at least being part of Mist, the way the 7SM functions is better than I would expect given the design.

They are powerful gameplay items that are basically under the purview of one dude with some loose RP-esque guidelines on how the group is meant to function but from what I can tell little to no oversight as to how that is taking place. I'm surprised it's not just straight up a clique of 10 guys that just rotate the stuff between them as they get bored, or AFK for months at a time and people just let that go.

If part of the thought process is that these groups will become more accessible by moving the main village chats public, what I assume will happen is that you will just get the "7SM Discord" that will be even less accessible than the unofficial current ones are, and with less engagement in those spaces, it will be even more difficult to figure out how you are meant to approach those communities.

small socket
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Was there an announcement about those servers not being permitted anymore? I find this information out of the blue!

hard vine
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I don't know of any instance of a corporate seizure of community made fan spaces that ended well. I don't know who came up with this idea.

silver kestrel
granite harbor
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Kisame and zabuza really squadded up all the time ye. Asuma ran with those 12g boys til the day he died. Rarely did these groups ever actually get together. Anbu operated in groups sure, but not all orgs do that. Its an online game. These spots should not be locked to players that are in an unofficial discord as the management of the servers typically have nothing to do with the spots themselves. Its a village Corp. An in official game mechanic that should have no reliance on unofficial community engagement

hollow sand
balmy leaf
silver kestrel
hollow sand
# silver kestrel LMFAO no way?

It's all coming back to me, that whole term was a joke. Got banned from nin gen for a few years because I called out the BS... Which further proves my point, can't trust the moderation on official to fairly govern the villages without bias.

onyx totem
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I mean the thing is this is a community focused game where the community literally controls if you can even be in a village or not. At the end of the day it breaks down to a village government problem and it's the players who elect said government. You might as well just remove council/kage all together if you want "equality".

hollow sand
onyx totem
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Yea, if you actually want "equality" you might as well just make kage an npc like Takumi has and make org leaders/spots obtained via an in game system and completely remove player control all together. Ofc this would be a terrible idea though as the village being controlled by players is literally one of the biggest features that makes the game good.

granite harbor
hollow sand
granite harbor
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I have zero clue who you are nor do I care if you think im bsing you. The only ones that would pick a fight on here rather than have a constructive conversation have a really sad home life, and I will not feed into their misery. Best of luck.

hollow sand
# granite harbor I have zero clue who you are nor do I care if you think im bsing you. The only o...

The truth usually does sound like an accusation if the party is guilty. I'm not picking a fight with you, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. You dont know me, but I know you. You're deep in the community Tres, you're part of the immune party, and benefit from the bias (if you scroll up in the thread, you can keep up with the conversation, namely concerns) that already exists. And the fact you went straight to insults instead of even questioning what I'm even talking about, shows I touched a nerve.

clever cliff
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This is getting off topic, just saying, yall need to try and keep your personal anger and bias out of this, if you are capable

dull nebula
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That ^ and I agree with syke here because the OG clan cords were wiped or lost during that time when a staff member imposed himself on Mist politics

hollow sand
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Then I'll wrap up the only point I've continually made; if the players give up their community and relinquish their village discords because of threats of bans from moderation, it will end up like nin gen; where chosen individuals have immunity and favouritism in the form of mods, instead of naturally integrating and forming bonds with their own villagers. As it stands now, with correct sign posting, everyone is on equal footing according to the current village administration. New players (especially) are having their chances and their moments, now more than ever. Make a central hub in the official discord if need be, but don't jeopardise what's working by strong arming the leadership into conformity - if nin gen is a struggle to moderate, transparently without bias... Why add 3 full village's into the mix too? 🤯

runic sapphire
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Some of these new rule implementations feel overly strict,almost like censorship under communism. By enforcing them to the point where adults can’t freely express themselves or have to overthink every message before sending it, there’s a real risk that people will stop using Discord altogether and even quit the game for good.

I understand the importance of having rules similar to YouTube Kids’ guidelines—to prevent racism, politics, religion, or sexual orientation discrimination—but we also need to recognize that most members of this community are adults.

Just like I’m not a fan of the in-game AI auto-warn system, I’m concerned that a similar approach might be applied to staff-run Discords. While I know the staff’s goal is to make the game safer and more enjoyable for everyone, overly strict rules and limited community engagement could end up driving players away instead of keeping them involved.

ember bolt
runic sapphire
ember bolt
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No i just dont think what you said applies here thats all.
While what you said is the scenario i would like to see happen , its not really applicable here unfortunately.
Its best if we keep it real and not come up with scenarios that are just not real , and reality is we need to present a actual solution rather than dream what it could be if it was a public service
Basically we need to work with what we have and not skew the topic into what it could be if if if if etc.

blazing spindle
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How bout before you try to fix something that clearly dosent need to be fixed, fix your own dam moderation and staff

small socket
hollow sand
olive zenith
turbid solstice
olive zenith
unique falcon
hollow sand
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What's wild is things like this happen, and they act like people forget. Literally insulting players' intelligence.

blazing spindle
wispy tendonBOT
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GG @blazing spindle, you just advanced to level 20!

stiff roost
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I learned from this discussion that you should be wary of GMs because they can mess you up for the slightest thing

toxic jacinth
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Who even suggested official village discords ran by gms? I haven’t seen it said lol

next blade
toxic jacinth
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Seems useless and odd to even suggest 10 years into it lol

tepid bluff
olive zenith
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So none of the village have accepted the offer?

ember bolt
olive zenith
hollow sand
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That's no surprise, Leaf is a GM favourite. Through my own nin career, I've always seen Sand and Mist as a community project. Mist being the youngest and most unstable village (til recent) - but both has always had a strong sense of identity and unity; even during civil unrest.