#Expansion of RP Missions

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lavish zephyr
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midnight summit
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So my understanding of the RP missions available at this time requires a Chunin+ to provide the Genin of proof of the RP missions completion. Are we trying to reverse that script and allow Chunin+ ranks to obtain new daily missions for RP but allow Genin to be the deciding factor if that player succeeded? Just trying to clarify that.

lavish zephyr
midnight summit
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I understand now. So ultimately you are wanting a new title to be awarded to trusted Chunin+ players that would allow them to assign daily RP missions to those under them in rank. I like the idea, it would expand on the RP elements of the game more and would give a little more power to the players to control how and when. I would say we may want to consider changing the rule set for it and exclude the Chunin rank for these new daily missions.

Sitting here thinking about it there is a solid enough chance that the new dailies being able to be assigned by players directly and not an NPC could be abused. Such as assigning an A+ mission to levels 10 - 30 would be a bit game breaking, and exploitive.

I would say maybe limit it to those with the title as Specialized Jonin. It is already cannon that SJ Shinobi existed in Naruto with Ebisu Sensei as a prime example of those who specialized in mentoring lower ranks. I feel that would be a better place to put a feature like this and expand on the reasons for the Specialized Jonin rank to be used, while potentially creating a position within the village to obtain that has meaning but isn't an Org.

You can even formulate a path to follow for the position to be earned making it seem even more impactful. For example a Chunin that completes X amount of traditional RP missions from the RP NPC earns the Sensei title and that title is required during the CE to earn the Specialized Jonin rank and that rank is required to be able to proctor daily RP missions.

Otherwise I do like the idea and think it would expand on the RP elements of the game quite nicely!

hushed valleyBOT
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GG @midnight summit, you just advanced to level 10!

lavish zephyr
# midnight summit I understand now. So ultimately you are wanting a new title to be awarded to tru...

it does make sense to exclude the passing out RP Tokens part to Special Jonin & Jonin, however I don’t think we have that many to make this new “RP Missions+” idea relevant.

That’s why I made it to Chunin and above who have completed certain tasks like Complete 5-10 RP Missions and have received an extraordinary amount of praise from Genin who have RP under them.

I could increase the requirement to 15-20 RP Missions for Chunin?

midnight summit
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So we agree that obtaining the rank of Chunin isn't enough, but having a Chunin wait around for a Jonin or SJ to log in order to award their Genin seems rough. Why not proceed with the same requirements but after completing them it gives the Chunin the option to accept a promotion to Specialized Jonin without a CE.

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This would expand the SJ rank making more of them available, and being required to complete certain objectives to earn the rank makes the player feel like it is earned and not just given.

lavish zephyr
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but I kinda still want a Sensei title to be implemented

midnight summit
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You can implement both.

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So require the player to be of rank Chunin or higher to participate, completing the other objectives awards the Sensei title, and the title is the requirement to unlock the optional Specialized Jonin rank advancement. The advancement is requried to assign daily rp missions. So it is optional but not required but the player can still display the achievment if they don't want the rank or responsibility.

lavish zephyr
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Yeah that actually sounds good.

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Then Jonin leveled Ninja just have to do the requirements to unlock Sensei title.

midnight summit
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This can also hook into the mentorship system that is planned for the future where Genin that have an assigned Specialized Jonin mentor during a CE will have that players name listed under the Mentor section of the player information window.

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That could tie into your recognition system where the players are recognized by the community. If a player decides to accept the mentorship it works towards the Sensei's reputation.

lavish zephyr
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Okay I summarized it in the main post

shy plover
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Chunin is a higher rank than special jonin lol

lavish zephyr
shy plover
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It’s a lower rank than chunin

lavish zephyr
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Okay. If you say so.

shy plover
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Just letting you know becuase your post makes it look like it isn’t 👍

midnight summit
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So @shy plover Is correct as for Nin Online the rank order goes Kami > Jonin > Chunin > Specialized Jonin. In Naruto that is not the case. It goes Kage > Jonin > Specialized Jonin > Chunin.

The reality though is it doesn't matter, the authority of the Specialized Jonin and Chunin isnt really any different here as this is a Video Game and not a real world organization. Outside of RP missions Chunin have no other real authority in this game as is anyways, while the Specialized Jonin rank is already recognized as a rank awarded for exceptional RP or specailized ability.

So is going from Chunin to Specialized Jonin a backwards promotion in Nin, technically yes. Does this limit you any differently? Not really, and by making the rank change optional it becomes player choice and not a forced situation. This system would be designed for those seeking a position in their village specifically with these abilities and recognition in mind, not something forced onto players. This is meant to expand RP elements, not power or authority and ultimately if you aren't a Council member or Kami your rank gives you very little actual authority in game.

shy plover
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How doesn’t it limit you lol

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Chunin can host higher ranked rp missions, outrank you in rp etc. you also can promote past SJ without going through exams again and becoming chunin

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Plus daily rp missions is just dumb lmao

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Game needs more unique rp mechanics and systems to encourage it. Not more dailies with the same generic “rp”

midnight summit
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Explain:

"How doesn't it limit you..."

What do you mean here.

Explain how adding new PLAYER controlled missions is generic?

shy plover
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Because this already exists as rp missions. You just want to make them repeatable.

midnight summit
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Okay that doesn't mean they are generic...that argument just shows you don't like RP missions, is subjective, and falls short of what I am asking. So again How is it Generic?

shy plover
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It is generic.

midnight summit
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How?

shy plover
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Because this already exists.

lavish zephyr
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I honestly don’t feel like going back and forth. It’s mainly the “Sensei” Rank that I want implemented anyway which gives higher rank Ninjas more ways to RP with the community.

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Idc about Chunin or S. Jonin order. I only thought of this because devs don’t have to code that much for it to be in the game.

I have way better ideas for RP that I’ve came up with.

midnight summit
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This is Blackbeard's brain child, not mine, but I love the number of people in this server that have "Opinions" but don't actually explain anything or even suggest corrections to make things better. So I am stepping away from this, Yach do better.

shy plover
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Not going to spoon feed you because you cannot read.

lavish zephyr
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Offering nothing to threads & ideas except snarky remarks.

midnight summit
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So tell me yach, where in the game does this idea get implemented?

lavish zephyr
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I’m actually glad we came up with this idea, Relic. You don’t have to interact with the other guy lol

shy plover
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It hopefully doesn’t.

midnight summit
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I hope you step on a lego, but that isn't here nor there Yach...do better.

shy plover
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You’ll be okay scrub.