#Defect from Village

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lone wraith
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A rogue ninja with 0 crimes may be allowed, after a period to renounce their own village in Takumi and then be pardonable by any kami, becoming a member of that kami's village, retaining jutsu and masteries. They can no longer seal scrolls in their original village for their unique masteries and must obtain them from a Leaf, Mist or Sand player if they should forget them.

sly obsidian
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Pretty neat idea and I do like it but, I could see a small problem with just duel windowing to trade with yourself, otherwise, pretty cool!

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Would be very fun for RP too. XD

lone wraith
sly obsidian
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I know. XD

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That's why I said small.

fringe bloom
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bump

cinder oyster
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I didn't quite understand because of a language barrier.
Are you suggesting that I could be a fan (Sand Hidden Mastery), leave Sand Village, become a renegade, and ask to be part of Mist, for example?
It would be really fun. I'm honestly intrigued by other hidden masteries but still belong to the same village.

hidden birch
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I really like this idea. Honestly, one of the biggest turn offs of Nin was the Meta Gaming, getting jailed after returning to the game (months of time away due to IRL things), for being accused of playing as an alt spy. This happened way to often, with the Steam release we have seen a lot less meta gaming these days, but I still see the way some of the older players still play, and a lot of features have been added to really promote fair gameplay. This kind of feature, allowing a player to go rogue and change their allegiance to another village after a set time and/or prereqs are met would really reduce this meta gaming as well.

violet aurora
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the meta game you speak off is non existant

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the kage is fully entitled to exiling you without a reason just because he wants too

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its the type of game we are playing here , discord and outside resources have always been involved

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This idea post will simply get closed

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This is a suggestion that has been denied onmultiple occasion and for obvious reasons it will never be accepted

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There should be comittal to character creation and we should never allow players to freely hop factions . it would only result in no long term alligiance or commitment

hidden birch
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The meta game is non existant...yet it did exist. You like to be argumentative in a lot of these posts without any real proof to back up anything you say and half the stuff you spout is false or your own bias...at this point I am surprised anyone takes you seriously. The point of this is to foster open dialog about what the current player base is wanting. Yet the way you tag in on your comments is "Why bother it is BS anyways" if you have nothing constructive to input just leave it...because as far as I have seen you have nothing good to say and no beneficial input for the players or the game.

lone wraith
violet aurora
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its delusion to call any type of gameplay rp gameplay in nin

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theres no rp rules

hidden birch
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Been here since 2019 myself so I think I have you beat bud

violet aurora
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no rules regarding meta game

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so really this type of rp logic

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is nonsense

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its like your playing a different game than everyone else

hidden birch
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You are a joke and that is that and you don't like being called out.

violet aurora
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For any of what you said to make sense this would have to be a rp game

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which is not

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thats really why i called it nonsense

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if you dont understand this i dont know how else to explain it

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I could care less about being "called out"

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what you said remains nonsense

hidden birch
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Evidently because you don't know when to walk away.

violet aurora
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i dont gotta walk out

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its a public forum

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where people can give their opinions

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wether they are positive or not wether you like them or not

hidden birch
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Fair enough, in that case you're still a joke with no real idea how to run a game. Which is evident by the direction the game devs are taking which is not the stance you take but okay.

violet aurora
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the owner has also expressed dislike about this and rejected it previously

violet aurora
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even the one RP event that everyone loves is in the process of being automated

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🤣

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Genuily , idc about you, its the idea and logic you used that is nonsense, i dont evne know who you are so im unsure why you would feel "offended" over comments regarding your post, no need to see it as a personal attack.

Calling me a clown over an opinion is however a personal attack

hidden birch
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Okay so you seem to understand what a public forum is. But you have no concept of what player input and feedback is do you? When you hop into a discussion and say "No that is crap and would never happen" instead of fostering a discussion on how to effect those changes or actually READ the original post before commenting is sad.

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Idea and logic I used? What idea did I use?

violet aurora
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its pointless to discuss changes that actively go against design that have also already been denied on multiple occasions

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the result will be this post being closed like all the others that requested this change

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its in the idea section rules to not repeatdly post about things that have been rejected already

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Its not me saying it, i cant close posts nor am i deciding what post gets accepted or denied. its the actual owner and dev of the game doing it

hidden birch
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It has been rejected already link it

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I can't seem to find a single post concerning it, maybe I am using the wrong key words here for a search link the rejection

violet aurora
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its probably because this idea section has been wiped like 3 times

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not sure why they keep doing it

hidden birch
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Okay so again, then it isn't a violation of the section rules IF THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT BEING REJECTED

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The rule states to search to see if it was already posted if there is no evidence of it you cannot expect HUNDREDS of new players to MAGICALLY KNOW it existed

violet aurora
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your right

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you cant know it existed

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its not like the OP intentionally did it anyways

hidden birch
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So going onto posts and being a negitive source towards other players isn't the way to go about promoting the game or game ideas is it...

violet aurora
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im not here to promote the game nor game ideas

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im here to talk about the post here

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to which i read your comment and replied to you

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thats really it

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i dont pick and choose posts i usually read what people are saying and participate if i think i should

hidden birch
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You want Nin Online to succeed like I do I imagine. But the way you go about it is not the right way of doing things. Having an opinion is fine, but when you shoot down players that are just trying to see something they like/love improve, you are litterally shooting the game in the foot before it gets a chance to walk

violet aurora
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respectfully

hidden birch
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You don't shut down ideas you are correct, but you do have a choice how you go into those posts and voice your opinion

violet aurora
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i replied with logical points

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you replied by calling me a clown

hidden birch
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No you didn't

violet aurora
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so do not lecture anyone

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have a good day

hidden birch
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The first post you made was obvious you didn't fully read the OPs original message fully.

violet aurora
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i was replying to you

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not him

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its a direct message to you

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?

hidden birch
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And reading through this section, you did it multiple times to multiple people. So that is on you.

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A DM would not be in this server, that was a public reply, and reference to the OP's post in it.;

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Don't try and walk back your statements now.

violet aurora
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a direct reply

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i was replying to you going on about metagame

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thats really it

hidden birch
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It is a PUBLIC REPLY direct messaging is a DM and is not server based.

violet aurora
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if you cant understand that and then proceed to throw insults because you did not like the way i said it

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thats a you issue not a me issue

hidden birch
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And you were wrong about meta gaming too.

violet aurora
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i called you no names

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i attacked your ideas

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you attacked me

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now sybau respectfully and have a good day

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Matter a fact

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hold this block

hidden birch
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Okay for that I apologize if I hurt your feelings, for someone who claims this is a PvP and Hardcore game you seem to have a lot of issues.

violet aurora
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cant even react with logical points tryna lecture anyone

fair nebula
violet aurora
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what personal bias in what i said

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this is not an rp game

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meta game does not exist unless its a rp game with rp stoyline ingame

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this idea has been rejected on multiple occasions

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none of this is bias its all facts 😭

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where is the bias here ? just because you guys dislike the truth does not make it wrong lol

fair nebula
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You reject ideas and opinions on speculation, not logical points. Very constructive of you.

violet aurora
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speculation ?

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mate the owner himself has stated he does not and will not do this change

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i also cant reject or accept anything im a player like you

lone wraith
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I mean the main storyline literally is an rpg, or do you not become hero of the toads and learn senjutsu as an rp thing but not gain senjutsu powers? Am I trippin? XD

hidden birch
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We get that it isn't about rejecting the idea, it is about having an open discussion a DISCUSSION not a instant rejection where you seem to do this a LOT in this section of this discord.

lone wraith
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mmoRPg, just because your character is called John Swordman doesn't mean you can't RP.

violet aurora
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here so you can educate yourself a little @fair nebula

violet aurora
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i get why you guys want to change vil

lone wraith
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Well this guy is gettin blocked, you just show up everywhere XD

violet aurora
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i dont particularly care about it, its just a bit pointless to discuss thats all

hidden birch
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That is about paid transferes which is not at all what this is. Additionally, what he is talking about there is the RP element behind why they will not allow late game resets while retaining all of your progress.

gray cloud
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Temari joins Leaf Pinksob

hidden birch
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That has NOTHING to do with swaping village alliegences through RP/Quest based elements. Which btw is canon in Naruto for shinobi to change villages. The entire premise of Naruto as a being is because of shinobi changing allegiances.

lone wraith
hidden birch
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A good example for anyone who is a surface watcher and never really go into the series is Kobuto

fair nebula
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If your idea of a discussion is instantly rejecting an idea/opinion because you think "it's never gonna happen, stop dreaming about it", then you are by no means stating any logical points but spouting nonsense.

violet aurora
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im not rejecting anything

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i dont make decisions here

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so i really dont get what you mean

lone wraith
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It could even be a one-time deal, or a pain (you must be a clanless rogue for x amount of time before it's available, pay x ryo to the village etc.) so that people aren't just switchin villages. Not that people don't just reset. I mean feasibly you could even rig a guild alliance and make your own village lol

hidden birch
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That all said, blocked or not, @violet aurora you are right I should not attack you as a person but when your character is to be antaganistic towards player suggestions then you are putting yourself as the target not your ideas as you said you were going after.

lone wraith
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You could even make it so that if you defect

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there is no such thing as a safe zone to you for ninjas from your original village, they can claim your bounty anywhere

hidden birch
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Or even expand on the idea of if you defect to a new village instead of your original you can never rejoin the original village.

lone wraith
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Or just that, you can't do it again. What village would take someone who gives up on their homeland twice? That makes sense.

hidden birch
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This section is meant for ideas, it doesn't mean all ideas are good, it doesn't mean all ideas HAVE to be implemented they are ideas and can be built upon or rejected, but coming into a post like that and just saying get over it and move on is not the solution here.

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@lone wraith I apologize for overtaking your post, it is a great idea and I do hope that it gets a solid look into and possibly even implemented.

violet aurora
violet aurora
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if that made you feel like i was being rude then im sorry

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im just very to the point and agressive sorry.

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disagreing or not you apologized at least thats all i needed.

pale oasis
violet aurora
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You guys dont seem to have actually played a roleplay game

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It looks nothing like this literally.

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Its dishonest to claim its a rp game. For it to be an rp game it needs rp rules. Theres no such thing.

pale oasis
violet aurora
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That doesnt make the game rp

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It doesnt mean its going into rp direction

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Which was my point

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Sure you can rp thats totally fine

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But theres no benefit to making the game less automated and modern in benefit of rp

pale oasis
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Never said the game was heavyily rp just that tons of new players enjoy the rp aspect and want more. The ppl who only care about "hardcore" pvp are mostly old players.

violet aurora
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Your confusing again regular activities with rp

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Roleplay is actual roleplay

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Its not logging in going to chop wood and talking with your friends

pale oasis
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Ppl opening up reasturants and shops aren't rp? And the hosted rp is def rp.

violet aurora
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Mate for it to be roleplay there needs to be a setting

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Its literally acting but in game

pale oasis
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If they just were straight trading I wouldn't call it rp, but they putting tons of effort to make it rp like

violet aurora
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Its not socializing

gray cloud
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have you never found these people that he's talking about?

wheat thornBOT
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GG @rose sequoia, you just advanced to level 6!

quartz echo
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As a newer player to Nin online, this mechanic sounds very appealing to me.

The onboarding process of character creation doesn't really show you much of the village you're picking, and the thought didn't cross my mind to make 3 different characters to view the villages. So I picked the one that sounded the coolest in my mind.

I like the balancing options of losing your secret mastery for that village, and it only being a one time thing to stress loyalty to a village! I'd love to see this enter the game as I believe it is a player-friendly mechanic that helps give players the agency and choice to have more fun to those that would like the option!

Thanks for writing this suggestion.

hidden birch
# quartz echo As a newer player to Nin online, this mechanic sounds very appealing to me. The...

If you are looking to reset your character to another village this is already an option for you. In the admin building of your village there is an account manager that you can speak to and reset your character.

As for your progress and cosmetics.

1st: Your progress will be reset to lvl 1 as you are restarting the character, in fact doing this will have you go through the character creation screen and tutorial again.

2nd: If the items you are worried about are shop items that you have purchased you do not lose those on reset, unless the item states you do directly. That said I am paranoid when I did it not that long ago as well, but the game allows you to store these in your shop stash as they are classified as "Premium" purchases, this includes any daily resets, stat resets, and blessings you may have purchased but have not consumed yet.

3rd: If the items are event token items or normal in-game clothing shops or drops, these items will be lost on reset, but there are means for you to attempt to retain them, such as trading those items to a friend. Doing this is not without risk though, if you do not have complete trust in that friend I wouldn't do it as they are under no obligation to return the items, and the GMs will do nothing if you complete a trade in this fashion and lose your items to player greed.

Though that is more to help you out as a new player, I still think this feature should be implemented even if only as a 1 time thing per character. Thank you for your input though!