Fix Mist village placement

[gray swift]

Yeah feel like every village should have what sand has. We need something the equivalent to blood puppets on each side hate running all the way there to get snitched on and cloaked bombed

[leaden nimbus]

I'd also be for removing Asoki hospital altogether, especially now with the new routes between mist/takumii and leaf/sand. It serves no purpose other than BI warrior fights at Asoki itself or as a staging area for enemy village raids. It would be better if all villagers simply respawned in their own respective villages/houses.

[wispy pilot]

Imo this is the fix id want

[rancid oasis]

POV: You're Mist and you need to defend the village from a Raid:

Goofy s**

[stoic leaf]

honestly i didnt even mention the 9 maps you have to go through to even get back to mist

let alone the 6th CF map if you wanna go to south gate

so fun

[rancid oasis]

"Asoki to Village" speedrun category.

I messed up at the boars, getting hit and losing my mount. Can optimize this run a lot tho

sub 3 minutes is totally possible.

[karmic gyro]

Asoki spawn should only be available for lowbies and rogues

[rancid oasis]

Then you need to run for 3 minutes (at least) everytime you want to do anything. Eh

[karmic gyro]

The 46 arc sends you back to hospital and then you have to run back to mist. If you're sandborn or leafborn, you're cooked and gotta run ages. Lowbies and rogues benefit from spawning in the center of the map, others don't really need it

Besides, if a village is gonna require you to defend while being a lowbie and being 5 minutes away otherwise you face a potential exile, then thats an issue with the administration

[rancid oasis]

Hunting for WW/Most Wanted? Main Land.
Arc 40? Main Land
Arc 30? DNA, Main Land
Puppets? Main Land
Tanzaku? Main Land

There's literally ONE mission that happens at Mist land and that's it.

[karmic gyro]

Bandits, arc 30, puppets and tanz came out before mist

[rancid oasis]

?

[karmic gyro]

Yuno should've 100% been closer to mist

[karmic gyro]

Yes

Mist wasn't in the game from the start

[rancid oasis]

I know that, but what does that have to do with anything lol

[karmic gyro]

?

Everything?

They're far because Mist wasn't a thing?

[rancid oasis]

I mean, they're far because Mist was designed to be far from everything.

We already had the content, it was a choice to make Mist be 5 minutes away, at least, from everything.

[tribal glade]

It’s the yearly mist post asking for mist to be closer to mainland

[karmic gyro]

Mist was far in the anime/manga as well — it's just a simple downside.

[rancid oasis]

I understand everything existed before Mist, and it's fine. But that's not an excuse lol

[rancid oasis]

Yes but this is a game, it would be fine if we had content in our village like Sand has Puppets and Leaf has everything else.

That's not the reality. There's nothing to farm at max level in mist.

[tribal glade]

Rather than ask for maps to be removed (which they won’t) ask or create content for mist

[rancid oasis]

This is not about "oh its boring to go trough 5 big deserts". It's about design.

[karmic gyro]

The game's content isn't finished, there will be more to come for mist

[rancid oasis]

The way the game is designed, there's 0 reason to stay at Mist. At all.

There's literally no reason aside from going to Kage desk to pick up a daily, to go back to mist, ever.

And that's the problem: We want to exist at our own village. Not at a random village in the middle of the map.

[tribal glade]

@karmic gyro I think you’re onto something with rogues only getting asoki spawn

[rancid oasis]

That would be nice, but that would make playing mist HORRIBLE.

[karmic gyro]

How so

[rancid oasis]

Every time you need to do anything, it's a 3 minutes run, at least, just to get to Asoki.

Oh you died? Have fun running back from the end of the world.

[karmic gyro]

That's how it is for everyone ngl

[rancid oasis]

...

It's not.

[karmic gyro]

Yeah Mist is further but a 3 minute run isn't stopping you from playing it, just laziness

[rancid oasis]

Of course not.
But it's something that only Mist needs to go trough.

[karmic gyro]

Best orgs, best drip, best fishing locations, best entrance for defending

[rancid oasis]

?

We're the only village without a choke point lol

And we have a No Zone in our front door

And people can spawn at Asoki to BI Warrior lol

[karmic gyro]

Which is why rogues should only be able to spawn at Asoki

Rogues or lowbies imo

[rancid oasis]

And it's not "only 3 minutes" Like I already said: It's 3 minutes to get to main land, then you need to run to whatever you need to do.

[karmic gyro]

You have a jonin at the entrance, and easily trappable entrance

Leaf has 3 entrances and space for enemy villages to enter without an issue

[rancid oasis]

Meanwhile Sand has Puppets inside their territory, and Leaf is close to everything.

[stoic leaf]

maybe you dont know but 7SM swords are mostly trash except for a couple great ones, and every town has S tier fishing location because each village has a specific octo

[rancid oasis]

Err... Leaf has a Jonin literally in their entrance too? 💀

[stoic leaf]

Samehada doesnt drain cha

let that sink in

[karmic gyro]

I led 7sm in Leitings term

7sm is the best org in the game

Mistbu is the only one with a sword that doesnt require str

[stoic leaf]

well when crow and kronk and atsushi are freely giving up swords because theyre not good

hatori as well

i trust them over something from 8 years ago

[karmic gyro]

They're giving the swords up because the raid leads suck lol

[stoic leaf]

LOL

[karmic gyro]

Just being honest, I literally saw 7sm get left for dead during raids

[karmic gyro]

I'd get tilted and give it up too

[stoic leaf]

after dying in a raid?

[karmic gyro]

Everything knows that samehada sucks bro lol

[rancid oasis]

Dude this is not about orgs

[karmic gyro]

7sm is still the best org in the game

[stoic leaf]

I dont think any of the 7sm are lame enough to give up the org after dying 1 raid

[rancid oasis]

Please stop bringing up random things that have nothing to do with the topic just because you have 0 reasons to be against this suggestion.

Accept it and move on.

[tribal glade]

The swords being bad wasn’t why I vacated; I was gonna be inactive this week and would rather someone active use the sword

[stoic leaf]

good point, my b misrepresenting that

[karmic gyro]

Brother, everyone has complained about mists location since it's been in the game. Everyone has cried about its distance to the mainland but it is intended by the devs to be that way and it won't be changed. They made the boat ride shorter, made mist mounts last the longest, and gave Asoki hospital to mitigate the rides. They will not remove maps when each map provides essential content for leveling.

[rancid oasis]

Dude watch my video, it's 3 minutes of running on empty water ffs

[tribal glade]

The only bad sword in 7sm is samehada because its always compared to the other 6. Need 1 person to commit to a samehada build and it’ll look good. (Chakra steal needs to work like demon claws though)

[stoic leaf]

blood cave map can just move that small 10 by 10 tile island to another map

[rancid oasis]

What are you on about "each map provides essential content for leveling" lmao

[karmic gyro]

One has 46 cave, one has kraken, the no-zone gives missions, heals, and is essential to 2 mission arcs, the next map over has the blood pipe boss

[rancid oasis]

Again, the best idea would be to add content to Mist so other people need to run to there, like we need to run to puppets.

[karmic gyro]

I don't know why they made the map bigger, it used to be way smaller

[rancid oasis]

That way more players venture into mist and we don't need to cross the entire world to get one WW kill.

[stoic leaf]

I love the auto from samehada but the fact it doesnt steal is a travesty

[karmic gyro]

It was size of small desert before the boss got added

[rancid oasis]

The problem is that there's 0 content in Mist, it's dead.

So OR you're AFK at gate, or you're at Asoki/main land. Mist territory is just lowbies running around. When a Raid happens (or anything really), there's no one there to defend, and it's only lvl 10s dying.

You can make the travel shorter and "remove asoki", or you can add content to Mist so people actually hang around there.

[stoic leaf]

The point being that if it takes 4 minutes full sprint to get back to the village during a raid, the raid will either be over or all your village has died and on bi so you just fall over. Why would any mist want to defend the village?

Genuinely what do I gain from defending other than wasting 10 minutes of my life running

[tribal glade]

Dw I’ll figure out a build for it and revolutionize samehada popularity

[stoic leaf]

Watch me drown was doing work yesterday with it but still doesnt feel good for it being the cha draining sword and not draining cha

[tribal glade]

Did he go base chakra with it

[stoic leaf]

but Im a dirty filthy RPer and holding onto the lore a lot here.

[rancid oasis]

You can go from 1 to 60 without never setting foot on Mist. You can do every content in the game, aside from one specific quest line (and one well at port I guess), without ever going there.

[karmic gyro]

Pure wm med just the only thing u can do ngl

[stoic leaf]

hes water and doing some cool stuff with it

med could be sick too

[tribal glade]

Nah nah trust bro when you see the 80 str 100 int fire/wind user running around

[karmic gyro]

Med's just the best option, or going 0 chakra with hybrid

[karmic gyro]

They need to let double elementals use them smh

[stoic leaf]

thats what hes doing, base cha and rest int str

tbh need to make the whip 2 tiles and that would be goated for ele masteries. not that its bad now tho

but again not about the orgs for this lol

[karmic gyro]

I get that bro, but that's just how it is and how it's gonna stay—just as it's always have. Make it so your players have to set their spawn in Mist, rather than Asoki instead

[karmic gyro]

hell nah its broken

it hits for 52 z

its actually broken af rn

[tribal glade]

Own a house in mist, set spawn to asoki or vice versa problem solved

[hearty dew]

support this so mist can stop thinking they own asoki ❤️

[stoic leaf]

Its gotta change because no raid points already takes out the need to mechanically defend village, why pay 1800 ryo a month if you're even lucky enough to get a house and go on bi when you could fix this issue by just making the boat 1 min or combining maps or something

[wispy pilot]

Would love some of the neutral villages to have a housing district

[stoic leaf]

death tping back to the village is just so lame from an RP lens but again IK people dgaf about that as much

[hearty dew]

also this

Asoki should have a neutral housing district since it's hospital is accessible to everyone

[rancid oasis]

We own asoki based on necessity 🙁

[hearty dew]

if I can respawn there it aint yalls 😼

[stoic leaf]

yeah but you'll die by 1 of every 2 mist you see by staying there

[hearty dew]

bi warrior it

[stoic leaf]

ask atrane or anna how much of their time in asoki is spent on bi

[leaden nimbus]

I'd even go as far as saying it should only be lowbies (like below level 30 kinda deal). Rogues already have new relatively quick route to Asoki/Mist.

[stoic leaf]

lovely set up we have in asoki /s

[noble hornet]

crack smoker

[stoic leaf]

bro its a whip

[ashen leaf]

What is going on here

[stoic leaf]

you think whips have 5 feet of distance?

[noble hornet]

yes

[tribal glade]

Yearly mist post about location being too far

[leaden nimbus]

whip shorter range than a staff

[stoic leaf]

trying to make this thread pop off so we can get rory to make mist village bareable

[leaden nimbus]

you're striking people with the whips hilt

[karmic gyro]

Staff extends in the anime

[stoic leaf]

so does whip

[ashen leaf]

Mist has been out for 6 years. I think if it was going to happen, it would have already

[noble hornet]

youre not the first to try, wont be the last, he wont change it

[stoic leaf]

I will continue to cry about it till I quit

[hearty dew]

inb4 all of mist reset to cloud cause its mainland

[ashen leaf]

You need upvotes not sent messgaes

[stoic leaf]

and I stg if I ever get kage or any position of power im going to encourage everyone to never step foot in mist

[ashen leaf]

It won't only be all of mist

[stoic leaf]

up vote then cmon dawg

[leaden nimbus]

https://youtu.be/4Gzzuc9LPjU?si=f_w4NMqRhxnrFvD7&t=281

ignore tha crappy dub

[karmic gyro]

It's not something to quit over, Mist needs to change it's tactics if it's worried about defending itself

[ashen leaf]

I understand the reasoning behind the suggestion but it simply won't work and it'll never happen.

[hearty dew]

mist was already hard to raid because of the dirty map switch

[stoic leaf]

I wont quit over it Im saying ill keep saying it's trash and we are unfairly dev'd out of relevancy UNTIL I quit

[hearty dew]

this was before the southern entrance was made

[rancid oasis]

Alternative soltuion: Let us make an embassy at Asoki, make new players spawn at Asoki. We can forget Mist Village exists and move on 🫂

[stoic leaf]

Why?

[noble hornet]

lightning cutter is also generally a 1 hit kill, should we make that realistic to the show as well

[stoic leaf]

saying that "it's been like this" or "people have complained already and nothing happened" gives no rationale

[noble hornet]

some things gotta be balanced

[noble hornet]

it does actually

it means Rory has seen it, said No

[karmic gyro]

Cause everyone not agreeing with you, was in your boots pre-steam release. We have been talking about this for years, and we got told the reasons why it won't happen, and we're just simply telling you what we got told

[leaden nimbus]

To be honest if someone lands lightning cutter on you then you're dead anyway 🤣

[rancid oasis]

You could kill lowbies without repercussion for whatever long the game has been out and that changed.

[hearty dew]

naruto lived, just traded an arm 😼

no biggie

[stoic leaf]

thats not important either, these suggestions are about the player base saying "this is silly and doesnt make sense and I'd do this change but please change this"

[rancid oasis]

You could be Mizukage trough 1v1 for whatever long it was that way, and it changed.

[noble hornet]

thats exactly what your saying tho

[rancid oasis]

You had only one way across the map since the game released, and it changed with new maps.

[hearty dew]

so can I ask, if rory suddenly changes the position of mist, what happens to all those ocean maps and the new paths added

[rancid oasis]

Not saying this SHOULD be implemented. But saying "it has been like this for whatever long" is not a good argument.

[hearty dew]

those islands gotta be crammed somewhere

[noble hornet]

Im not saying that

[rancid oasis]

Just make the boat ride take 1 minute if you're mist. Done

[noble hornet]

im saying people have had this idea

and Rory said no

[leaden nimbus]

Don't think the "position" itself has to be changed, just the distance

[hearty dew]

then make this the suggestion

[rancid oasis]

I mean Hageshi

[stoic leaf]

listen this is easy, take out the no-zone map, put the map to the right of no-zone where the no-zone is and put the NPC there

[leaden nimbus]

Route is just way to long compared to every other village

[hearty dew]

shorter boat ride makes sense im ngl

[noble hornet]

It is an island in the ocean

[stoic leaf]

4 min boat ride for what

[noble hornet]

Boat Ride used to be 5mins

[rancid oasis]

Yes, it is this suggestion you see.

[hearty dew]

the route is, by any other means, just for certain bosses/quests

[karmic gyro]

Trust, we tried that too

[noble hornet]

This is the plight of the mist

[stoic leaf]

has ueda givin a reason ever?

[hearty dew]

dang nvm its cooked

[noble hornet]

Trust the vision

[stoic leaf]

LOL

[rancid oasis]

Yeah and Sand is a town in the middle of f nowhere of the desert, and you're still close to all content.

[leaden nimbus]

If he doesn't budge on boat ride time then either remove some of the useless filler ocean maps or shorten the actual width of ocean maps, not only are they to long but there's to many

[hearty dew]

hey hey now

we have latinas

calm daown

[noble hornet]

make big desert two maps wide idc

but even the largest desert

is trumped by the biggest ocean

[stoic leaf]

remember it took sasori to go into his mobility puppet and travel for days to get to sand

[rancid oasis]

Make it 5 maps then, to match Mist

[stoic leaf]

bars

[hearty dew]

CF 5 maps long to match both

[ashen leaf]

I understand everyone's enthusiasm but you all have the wrong idea. You guys have gotten a shorter boat ride, new maps, entries and exits from Mist. Also Mist base mount is faster and longer lasting than all other starter mounts.

Moving the map and cutting the paths is simple but not the vision for the game.

Spamming 200 messages here talking about something that has been discussed for over half a decade won't get you anywhere.

[leaden nimbus]

Imagine if you had to cross 5 chakra forests to get to DS (that's what mist has to do to get to asoki)

[rancid oasis]

Yes.

[noble hornet]

you can yap all day but im tellin u

it wont change

[stoic leaf]

firstly no one is spamming dawg, what are you saying? And because my suggestion has been suggested before with no response means I just give it up and dont suggest? that's lame dawg i cant lie.

[rancid oasis]

You're right, we should do the opposite: Make all villages far from everything.

[noble hornet]

still yappin

ggs

[leaden nimbus]

I think nowadays Ueda seems more open to changes than in the past

[stoic leaf]

this is spam

[ashen leaf]

Enjoy your discussion lads

[hearty dew]

#Korva4Kage

[stoic leaf]

thanks

[noble hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/gaara-gif-19354831

[karmic gyro]

Good job, gentlemen. We bloated their post enough, time to move onto the next Lilian Reese post.

[hearty dew]

@rancid oasis nah dont take that LMFAOO

[stoic leaf]

this was my post and you've helped it thank you lol

The more I think about it, seriously why do we go back to defend the village? Lowbies die but thats it, mechanically there's no benefit or motivation to go back so every obstacle you put in the way of someone going back to the village discourages it that much more lol

[rancid oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/615663613822238731/1403470724831645847

Done, go upvote that then

[noble hornet]

Bloating player suggestions gg

[rancid oasis]

Nah I mean, everyone is saying how good of a design Mist is. Why not expand that to other villages too? If it's so great, everyone should love the suggestion.

[fresh sierra]

Real problem is 70% of the messages are non-Mist saying "it will never happen" 20x each cluttering the topic instead of just letting it be a short clean topic, but this is the norm for this discord.

[stoic leaf]

bloating our post so gg

[karmic gyro]

W Ragebait, Korva

8.9/10

[noble hornet]

made him so angry he likes where mist is

[rancid oasis]

Ngl I'm not raging, I think the idea is great lol

[noble hornet]

all in a days work

You can delete this post, you've agreed with me

[rancid oasis]

I really liked the suggestion of, instead of "fixing" mist, just make every village the same. It's great 🤣

[stoic leaf]

no thanks